Louder with Crowder - GUN WEEK w- Mrgunsngear | Ep 3. Gun Myths Debunked: Chapter 1

00:00:00.000 Today's episode is one of my favorites.

00:00:02.000 We will be examining and debunking the most ill-founded, cultural, historical myths that you'll hear from the pro-gun control crowd regarding the legal, political aspects of gun ownership and all of their lies therein.

00:00:16.000 It's gun week continued.

00:00:18.000 It's 4th of July week and firearms are as American as apple pie.

00:00:22.000 Which I don't really know how American that is.

00:00:23.000 They had apples back in the old country.

00:00:26.000 I think so.

00:00:27.000 We didn't invent apples.

00:00:28.000 We put it into a pie.

00:00:28.000 I don't know.

00:00:29.000 But this is Mr. Guns and Gear.

00:00:30.000 You can go check out his YouTube channel, Mr. Guns and Gear.

00:00:32.000 It's incredibly helpful.

00:00:34.000 A lot of good information there, but we wanted to take this opportunity.

00:00:37.000 We've done Handguns 101, Long Guns 101, the most common firearm myths that you've probably heard.

00:00:44.000 And we'll separate it into two parts, kind of cultural, political, and then technical since, you know, that's more in your realm of expertise.

00:00:51.000 And you've worked in the firearms industry too for a while.

00:00:54.000 Yeah, I've been doing this for... Since 2014.

00:00:56.000 2014 yeah, and the funny thing is you know we can separate the technical from sort of the cult because sometimes

00:01:02.000 people who work in The firearms industry they're not always fully aware of the

00:01:06.000 Second Amendment in the historical context. Yeah, that's very common actually

00:01:08.000 Yeah, it kind of surprises more than it should be yeah, it shouldn't be but

00:01:12.000 Look, we'll lead this with a clip for you, but right off the bat

00:01:17.000 We'll go through seven and maybe plus one top firearms myths that you've probably heard

00:01:22.000 culturally, politically, historically, as well as the rebuttals to those.

00:01:26.000 We'll make all the references publicly available, but it's no secret that half of this country, at this moment in time, is vehemently against the idea of owning firearms.

00:01:36.000 There is a way for us to make sure that lawful, responsible gun owners like yourself are able to use it for sporting, hunting, protecting yourself.

00:01:49.000 But the only way we're going to do that is if we don't have a situation in which anything that is proposed is viewed as some tyrannical Destruction of the Second Amendment.

00:02:03.000 Do you think that reinstating the ban on assault weapons and banning high-capacity magazines would do any good?

00:02:11.000 Yes, I do.

00:02:13.000 We cannot let a minority of people, and that's what it is, it is a minority of people, hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people.

00:02:24.000 We're gonna take your AR-15, your AK-47, We're not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore.

00:02:24.000 Hell yes!

00:02:31.000 If you wanna protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun. 0.97

00:02:35.000 I said, Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, or walk out, put that double barrel shotgun, and fire two blasts outside the house.

00:02:46.000 I promise you, whoever's coming in is not gonna, you don't need an AR-15.

00:02:51.000 It's harder to aim, it's harder to use, and in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself.

00:02:58.000 Buy a shotgun.

00:02:59.000 So, it's not one of the myths here, but Mr. Gunslinger and I were just laughing.

00:03:03.000 Mike, I'll call him Mike, in case you guys get confused.

00:03:06.000 Former Vice President Joe Biden saying, it's too hard to control AR-15.

00:03:10.000 Use a double-barreled shotgun.

00:03:12.000 Yeah, that's definitely much harder to control.

00:03:15.000 It's incredibly difficult to control.

00:03:16.000 AR-15's hard to aim, is it?

00:03:18.000 With a red dot?

00:03:19.000 I mean, it really couldn't be easier.

00:03:22.000 Unless you're Elmer Fudd.

00:03:22.000 Easier, right?

00:03:24.000 So this brings us to seven myths.

00:03:26.000 So I think these are the ones that you'll most commonly encounter.

00:03:29.000 Number seven, very common myth that you'll hear, that the Second Amendment, how often do we hear this, only applies to muskets.

00:03:36.000 What's the truth?

00:03:38.000 Still graphic there.

00:03:40.000 Well, look, you know this better than probably I do, but historically the Founding Fathers were well aware of the technological advancements with firearms.

00:03:48.000 And there were actually, at that point in time, many firearms that were far more advanced than the muskets that were used in the military, and it just wasn't cost effective.

00:03:55.000 Right.

00:03:57.000 Or it was slower to reload, or there's different reasons they went with it, but yeah, there was semi-automatic air guns were very common in the period.

00:04:04.000 And when you think of an air gun, a lot of people think of like a pellet gun, but these things were legitimately Lethal guns that could be used for hunting self-defense war

00:04:12.000 whatever the case may be right additionally there was volley guns which had

00:04:15.000 The capability to fire multiple projectiles. I mean there was a ton of them

00:04:19.000 Yeah, well so to give you an example a few of them And you can check all the references there was the kalthoff

00:04:23.000 repeater actually which is one I wasn't super familiar with in a previous video. I address

00:04:26.000 sort of the puckle gun the pepper box revolver There's the the belt and flintlock there's the flintlock

00:04:31.000 machine gun actually and the jeer and dhoni air rifle Which you may not know that was an air gun that was used

00:04:36.000 the Lewis and Clark expeditions As a matter of fact, they used that high-capacity air rifle to showcase to all the Native Americans to say, hey, look how much more powerful our boom-boom sticks are to bow and arrows.

00:04:47.000 It was something the government was aware of and actually encouraged to be used as a display piece.

00:04:52.000 So, and not to mention, of course, you would have to apply this same rationale to, well, the First Amendment does not apply to the printing press, let alone to your iPhone.

00:05:00.000 To the internet.

00:05:01.000 Right.

00:05:02.000 And they were aware of all these technological advancements.

00:05:03.000 These guns existed back then, they were high capacity, and let me give you one more truth that I think is pretty important, interesting.

00:05:10.000 It also applied to cannons.

00:05:13.000 So this is actually a private letter of Mark in 1812 from James Madison to a privately owned ship to have cannons.

00:05:21.000 They basically were saying, let me just sort of summarize this for you.

00:05:23.000 They were saying, hey, we're coming into contact with, you know, like British forces and we're out here on our ship.

00:05:28.000 We just want to make sure.

00:05:29.000 Is it OK for us to have cannons?

00:05:31.000 And Madison said, Second Amendment. 0.99

00:05:33.000 Yeah, you can have cannons, which would be the equivalent to approximately maybe like a javelin.

00:05:39.000 Something today.

00:05:39.000 Yeah.

00:05:40.000 Yeah.

00:05:40.000 An AT4.

00:05:41.000 Some kind of bunker busting weapon.

00:05:42.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 It was a very heavy artillery.

00:05:44.000 And by the way, you can also still have cannons.

00:05:45.000 Yes, you can.

00:05:45.000 You can still have them shipped to your house.

00:05:47.000 Today, as of right now, you can have huge cannons shipped to your house, and it's perfectly legal.

00:05:52.000 There's no background check.

00:05:53.000 Nothing.

00:05:55.000 Okay, well that's a conversation.

00:05:56.000 I don't necessarily know that that's the... I mean, I guess, what are you gonna use a cannon for?

00:06:00.000 Right.

00:06:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:01.000 YouTube videos.

00:06:03.000 If you have someone small enough to fire it.

00:06:04.000 I mean, if you're working in the circus.

00:06:05.000 But the point is, cannons back then, the letter we have, I have commissioned the private armed brig called Prince Neufchadel, I think I'm pronouncing that correctly, mounting 18 carriage guns.

00:06:16.000 So this is something that, again, one of the Founding Fathers knew about, said, yeah, you can have cannons.

00:06:20.000 Which brings us to another one.

00:06:22.000 Myth number six that you've probably run into.

00:06:25.000 And this is remedial for a lot of you, but for a lot of folks it isn't.

00:06:28.000 They still encounter these, for example, if you're in high school.

00:06:30.000 You'll still hear these myths touted on a consistent basis.

00:06:33.000 That the Second Amendment is only for the militia. 1.00

00:06:39.000 What part of your ass is part of a well-trained militia? 1.00

00:06:41.000 We've heard that famous quote, right? 1.00

00:06:43.000 Well, let's, I think first we can read the Second Amendment.

00:06:46.000 I think to start with that.

00:06:46.000 Sure.

00:06:47.000 Yep.

00:06:48.000 And then sort of get into more historical context, the corroborating documents that clarify what constituted the militia.

00:06:54.000 So here is the Second Amendment for people who haven't actually read it.

00:06:57.000 A well-regulated militia, comma, being necessary to the security of a free state, comma, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:07:09.000 This was written pretty damn carefully, too.

00:07:11.000 I don't think they thought it would ever be challenged like it has been, because it's so clear.

00:07:11.000 It was.

00:07:16.000 Right.

00:07:17.000 Like a regulated militia.

00:07:19.000 Regulated means well-run.

00:07:21.000 Right.

00:07:21.000 It doesn't mean regulated by the government.

00:07:23.000 Right.

00:07:24.000 It means capable.

00:07:25.000 Correct.

00:07:25.000 And here's another truth, just to be clear.

00:07:27.000 There are plenty of corroborating documents, right, if it's not just in the Constitution.

00:07:31.000 Let's say the Constitution, right, and the Bill of Rights is the prescription.

00:07:36.000 Well, then there are other corroborating documents that sort of add to that, like, okay, hold on a second, this is just a prescription that's been written, but this is how you would take it, or this is what is most effective, or this is the tapering pattern.

00:07:45.000 There are a lot of documents out there and also conversations that were

00:07:51.000 that were notarized that would have been written down that would

00:07:53.000 corroborate this and none to the opposite effect. So this is actually George

00:07:57.000 Mason, one of the founding fathers for those of you who don't know, when

00:08:00.000 asked, well what is the militia? He said, I asked sir what is the

00:08:06.000 It is the whole people.

00:08:07.000 To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. 0.99

00:08:12.000 So the right of the people, comma, that's after, a well-regulated militia, comma, being necessary to the security of a free state, comma, the right of the people, and to keep and bear arms.

00:08:24.000 And George Mason said, well, what is a militia?

00:08:26.000 Of course, it's the whole people.

00:08:29.000 You are the militia.

00:08:31.000 Any able-bodied, particularly able-bodied male who can carry a firearm is part of the militia, and you have the right to keep and bear arms.

00:08:37.000 Just don't tell the FBI.

00:08:38.000 Right.

00:08:38.000 Yes, exactly.

00:08:39.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure everyone here is on a list, but we do it so you don't have to.

00:08:45.000 This one is right in your wheelhouse.

00:08:45.000 Correct.

00:08:47.000 Myth number five.

00:08:50.000 And this one is silly, but you do hear this a lot, that a pistol brace makes a gun deadlier.

00:08:50.000 Sure.

00:08:56.000 And we didn't know if we should put this in the next installment on technical myths, but it's sort of pervasive culturally right now because of the laws that people are facing.

00:09:03.000 So, a pistol brace makes a gun deadlier.

00:09:06.000 You can buy the brace without a background check, but when it becomes a dangerous weapon, when that brace changes the gun's legal status and makes it In essence, the same that caused a mass shooting at a Boulder, Colorado supermarket, the stabilizing brace made, and a shorter barrel, made a pistol under federal gun regulations.

00:09:37.000 Made it harder for people to buy stabilized braces.

00:09:41.000 Put a pistol on a brace, it turns into a gun.

00:09:45.000 Makes it more, you can have a higher caliber weapon, a higher caliber bullet coming out of that gun.

00:09:49.000 So what's the truth?

00:09:50.000 So it doesn't change the deadliness, if you will, of it at all.

00:09:55.000 If you look back at the history of the National Firearms Act, which is what prohibited short

00:09:59.000 barrel rifles.

00:10:00.000 And which year was that?

00:10:01.000 1934.

00:10:02.000 1934.

00:10:03.000 Right.

00:10:04.000 It didn't prohibit them.

00:10:05.000 You just had to get a tax stamp to have one.

00:10:06.000 But the reason for that is they're trying to get rid of like gangster guns, if you will.

00:10:10.000 Mm-hmm.

00:10:11.000 Sawed-off shotguns, things like that.

00:10:12.000 Things that were easily concealed.

00:10:14.000 So the thing about it is, if you take an AR pistol and you remove the brace, it's actually smaller and easier to conceal than it is with the brace.

00:10:22.000 Right.

00:10:22.000 Additionally, brace pistols, like for ARs, just for this example, the reason people are putting a brace on them is because they have a barrel less than 16 inches.

00:10:31.000 Well, with AR-15s, the amount of, I guess, lethality damage That the round is going to do is directly dependent on

00:10:38.000 barrel length.

00:10:40.000 So they're putting them on guns with shorter barrels, therefore they're less lethal, would

00:10:45.000 be if you had a full-size rifle.

00:10:46.000 Right.

00:10:47.000 And to be clear, the reason for that, for people who may not necessarily be super familiar

00:10:50.000 with ballistics, is you have that powder burning, right?

00:10:53.000 And the longer the barrel, every round kind of has an ideal length to sort of simplify

00:10:57.000 it.

00:10:58.000 And a lot of that powder is still burning, which accelerates the bullet, right?

00:11:01.000 The round has the powder and the bullet is just the tip of it.

00:11:03.000 Remember when you were young, you thought that whole thing was the bullet?

00:11:05.000 Not the gun.

00:11:05.000 Right.

00:11:07.000 No, it's the tip, basically, at that little, that neck of the round.

00:11:09.000 That powder is still burning.

00:11:11.000 And so unless with an AR, is it 16 inches is what's optimal?

00:11:15.000 No.

00:11:16.000 So somewhere between 20 to 22 is about optimal, depending on the round.

00:11:20.000 It's still pretty rare that you run into people with like 22 inch. Yeah, almost never almost never almost never

00:11:25.000 But you're losing a lot of that velocity in a shorter Ar-15 that would be using a pistol brace correct and that's

00:11:30.000 when we've done the ballistics video Which you can go and watch when people talk about that sort

00:11:35.000 of wound channel from the air 15 that directly relates to the speed

00:11:38.000 Right when you reach certain speed, that's where you get create that hydrostatic shock that sort of temporary

00:11:43.000 wound cavity Which you wouldn't necessarily be running into sometimes in

00:11:47.000 some scenarios with something that would have that short of a barrel

00:11:50.000 But really, a pistol brace was originally created for people who were compromised to be able to control a gun.

00:11:55.000 Correct.

00:11:56.000 Alex Bosco is the man who created it, the owner of SB Tactical, and he created it when he was with this friend who was a Marine veteran who couldn't use his AR-15 properly because he was injured.

00:12:06.000 And they were actually kicked off the range because the range officer said they weren't being safe.

00:12:10.000 So he created the brace as a way to increase the safety of the gun, literally.

00:12:16.000 So why is this such a big issue right now?

00:12:17.000 Before we go into myth number four, why has it become an issue now where they're saying, we've got to get rid of the laws that we're looking at, pistol braces?

00:12:23.000 Sure.

00:12:23.000 So the reason is it's because they've become so popular and so pervasive.

00:12:26.000 So the estimates are that there's anywhere between 10 to 40 million of them out there.

00:12:32.000 And they've only been around since 2012.

00:12:35.000 So if you think about that many firearms in that period, I mean, that's a sizable number

00:12:38.000 of guns that have been sold since 2012.

00:12:41.000 And they're very popular because it just helps a lot of things.

00:12:44.000 For example, I took a new shooter out to the range the other day, a female who hadn't shot 1.00

00:12:49.000 guns before.

00:12:50.000 And I gave her a 16 inch AR9.

00:12:52.000 And she said, oh, it'd be so much nicer if it wasn't so heavy out front and had a little

00:12:57.000 bit of a shorter barrel.

00:12:58.000 Well, that's what the pistol brace enables people to choose.

00:13:01.000 Right.

00:13:02.000 Right.

00:13:02.000 And unfortunately, they're trying to take that away.

00:13:05.000 But it's also simply, like I said, because they become so popular.

00:13:09.000 And that's another thing.

00:13:09.000 We haven't addressed this specifically, but if you even look at the Assault Weapons Ban Act, right, a lot of these A lot of these sort of, I guess you'd say, characteristics of the firearms that make them illegal are entirely arbitrary.

00:13:21.000 For example, if you, you know, in some cases it's, if it, if the gun has any of these two characteristics, you know, for example, if it has a buttstock, and then if it has a conspicuously protruding vertical grip, you know, hold on a second, who defines conspicuously?

00:13:35.000 That's the term that defines it, versus, I guess, inconspicuously, it's okay, the pistol grip on a pistol, but on a rifle, this is okay, this is now an assault weapon.

00:13:43.000 Okay?

00:13:44.000 Assault weapon.

00:13:45.000 And I know you think I'm being reductive, that's actually true.

00:13:47.000 The ATF has actually issued letters from their FATD division, which is their division that, I guess, makes rules, doesn't make rules, clarifies rules, whatever they claim that day.

00:13:47.000 It's absolutely true.

00:13:58.000 But they have issued letters stating exactly what you just said, in writing, for public consumption.

00:14:03.000 So, he's not making that up.

00:14:05.000 Which brings us to myth number four here.

00:14:08.000 We just talked about the Assault Weapons Ban Act that happened under Clinton and obviously just lapsed because even the left realized this didn't really do anything.

00:14:08.000 This is one.

00:14:16.000 It wasn't very effective and there was backlash.

00:14:19.000 Myth number four that you'll hear a lot is assault weapons need to be banned because they're the preferred weapons of mass murder.

00:14:25.000 Now, before we even get into that and why it's not true, This is the problem with a myth that starts off with a false premise and the people perpetuating it know it.

00:14:35.000 Assault weapon doesn't really mean anything, just to be clear.

00:14:39.000 Assault rifle was a term that was used, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, in the military that had select fire, meaning it could be changed from semi-automatic to a fully automatic, what you might consider machine gun.

00:14:50.000 That's an assault rifle.

00:14:51.000 Right.

00:14:54.000 just means weapons that may be scary looking to someone who doesn't know about guns.

00:14:57.000 Correct.

00:14:58.000 There's been at least two assault rifles that were real things.

00:15:01.000 The Sturmgewehr that the Germans used literally translates to assault rifle.

00:15:05.000 And then Bushmaster made one that they marketed in the probably late 80s, early 90s that was

00:15:11.000 called the assault rifle as well.

00:15:12.000 So yeah, outside of those, there's no assault rifles.

00:15:15.000 And then the term assault weapons is even more.

00:15:17.000 It just means whatever we don't like.

00:15:19.000 It means it's black and scary looking.

00:15:19.000 Right.

00:15:21.000 Yes, exactly.

00:15:22.000 Pistol grip?

00:15:23.000 No.

00:15:23.000 Rifle grip?

00:15:24.000 Fine.

00:15:25.000 Vertical foregrip?

00:15:26.000 No.

00:15:26.000 If it's slightly angled, it's not an assault weapon anymore.

00:15:29.000 Magic.

00:15:30.000 So that's the premise.

00:15:31.000 Just deconstruct that. 1.00

00:15:32.000 If someone says assault weapon, they're a silly goose. 0.99

00:15:34.000 You can tell them so. 0.99

00:15:35.000 But let's go with what we think they mean.

00:15:37.000 When they say assault weapon, they're probably talking about something that's like an AR-15.

00:15:41.000 Or an AK-47 variant.

00:15:43.000 A semi-automatic variant.

00:15:45.000 Rifle variant.

00:15:46.000 Here's the truth.

00:15:46.000 Okay.

00:15:48.000 In 2020, rifles themselves, this would include all rifles, they were responsible for 408 murders.

00:15:55.000 That's 3% of all firearm murders.

00:15:58.000 And when they try and say that the AR-15, oh, these are the guns of mass shooters, it's their weapon of choice, 77% of, wow, it still surprises me when, 77% of mass shooters used handguns.

00:16:10.000 Yep, I mean that's true across the board.

00:16:12.000 A lot of the most famous ones, Virginia Tech for one, 9mm and 22 pistols, both.

00:16:17.000 Right.

00:16:18.000 Yeah, and it's one of those things where sometimes they'll have something that could be considered an assault weapon, but they'll actually fire more from a pistol, or for example, a pistol carbine I believe in... In Nashville.

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:28.000 Which was crazy, yeah.

00:16:30.000 She used a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 to actually do the shooting, but she had a Brace AR-15 pistol that would have been Possibly worse for folks involved, I guess, but she didn't choose to use it.

00:16:41.000 Thankfully.

00:16:42.000 Right.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, since it's one used to Caltech of all things.

00:16:45.000 I know of all things.

00:16:46.000 Gross. 0.83

00:16:47.000 It's gross. 0.97

00:16:49.000 This brings us to myth.

00:16:50.000 I'm sure you have some good things.

00:16:50.000 Sorry, Caltech.

00:16:54.000 Myth number three, and this is one we've addressed on the show.

00:16:57.000 I believe we have a clip.

00:16:59.000 But again, it's a lie, and it's an agreed-upon lie from half of the people in power in this country.

00:17:06.000 They know that it's not true.

00:17:08.000 And that myth is that guns, and you'll hear this on CNN, you'll hear it everywhere.

00:17:12.000 I want you to remember this.

00:17:14.000 Check the references I make available.

00:17:16.000 It is not true.

00:17:17.000 Guns are the leading cause of death amongst children.

00:17:22.000 And according to the CDC, the number one cause of death for children ages 1 to 19 in this country is gun-related violence.

00:17:30.000 Data from the University of Michigan also shows gun violence increased dramatically from 2020 to 2021.

00:17:35.000 Okay.

00:17:37.000 Here's the truth.

00:17:38.000 And then I'll point out something really silly with that clip that you just saw.

00:17:42.000 The leading cause of death among children ages 1 to 14?

00:17:47.000 Accidents.

00:17:48.000 Just to be clear.

00:17:49.000 Now, where else do you ever hear Children's ages 1-19.

00:17:54.000 Find me a board game that says ages 1-19.

00:17:56.000 Find me a show that is made for children ages 1-19.

00:17:59.000 one through 19. Find me a show that is made for children ages one through 19. We usually have

00:18:06.000 one and up, which may mean one to four, four and up, right?

00:18:10.000 PG-13. Nowhere else do we include a demographic that one through 19, which by the way, includes

00:18:19.000 legal adults and people who can be tried as legal adults.

00:18:23.000 We don't do that anywhere else in our legal... We only do it here so that we can cheat those numbers.

00:18:29.000 We can lie about those numbers.

00:18:30.000 So the number one cause of death, to be clear, 1 to 14 years old, which is still a pretty wide spectrum.

00:18:35.000 Right.

00:18:36.000 Is accidents.

00:18:37.000 Now, the study that these gun control advocates are actually using, it defines kids, again, up to 19 years old.

00:18:42.000 85% of those children killed by guns in 2019 were in that 15 to 19 year old range.

00:18:50.000 Now, you change that, where you change the number in the study, to men and boys, the number gets even smaller.

00:18:58.000 When you classify by age.

00:19:01.000 Race, ethnicity, and criminal background, that number gets even smaller.

00:19:05.000 It is not, it is, and here's the problem with this, you put people at risk, at danger, if, what if people have a pool?

00:19:13.000 Right.

00:19:13.000 But they're thinking, well the number one killer is guns.

00:19:15.000 It's not even close.

00:19:17.000 The pool, the bathtub, your toaster, is more dangerous to your four-year-old child than the gun in a safe in your closet.

00:19:23.000 It's not even close, especially the pool one.

00:19:26.000 I've had people who want to come over my house with their kids and they'll be like, People have said to them, rather, oh, he has guns in the house.

00:19:33.000 Be careful with your kids over there.

00:19:35.000 Well, I also have a pool.

00:19:37.000 No one ever says that.

00:19:38.000 No one's ever like he has a pool.

00:19:40.000 Be careful bringing your kids over there.

00:19:41.000 Right.

00:19:42.000 I never get that feedback, which I would assume because you don't have kids at your own.

00:19:45.000 You probably have a fence around it.

00:19:47.000 The pool?

00:19:48.000 I believe it's law.

00:19:48.000 Yeah.

00:19:48.000 We have to.

00:19:49.000 Is it law?

00:19:50.000 I believe so.

00:19:50.000 Okay, it's not law in every state.

00:19:52.000 I won't let my kids go to your place.

00:19:54.000 You don't have a fence.

00:19:54.000 Right.

00:19:55.000 Yeah.

00:19:55.000 You can leave the guns strewn about the floor.

00:19:59.000 But the pool is, by far, more dangerous.

00:20:02.000 Pool, bathtub.

00:20:04.000 It's one of those things that it's a lie that's repeated often enough.

00:20:04.000 Trampoline.

00:20:08.000 You've heard that old adage, but I'd like for you to think of it a different way.

00:20:11.000 It's an agreed upon lie.

00:20:13.000 Do you believe that former Vice President Joe Biden doesn't have access to these statistics?

00:20:18.000 Do you believe that Barack Obama doesn't know better?

00:20:20.000 Kamala Harris?

00:20:21.000 Nancy Pelosi?

00:20:22.000 Do you believe that they actually think 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 year olds are at greater risk of being killed by a firearm than common accidents, than automobile accidents, than common household items?

00:20:39.000 Of course they don't.

00:20:41.000 Don't fall victim to an agreed-upon lie, just because enough people agree on it.

00:20:44.000 Which brings us to myth number- this one's always fun.

00:20:47.000 Myth number two.

00:20:48.000 You hear this a lot.

00:20:49.000 You do.

00:20:49.000 Is that you're more- if you have a firearm in your house, you're more likely to have it used against you.

00:20:55.000 Right?

00:20:56.000 Here's the truth.

00:20:57.000 No.

00:20:59.000 That is the truth.

00:21:00.000 That is the truth.

00:21:00.000 That's just not true.

00:21:03.000 But they cite one study, which we'll make available, and it's flawed in a multitude of ways.

00:21:07.000 Everybody in the study, just to be clear, had already been shot.

00:21:12.000 So that matters, because you're starting the sample pool with people who've already been shot.

00:21:17.000 You're excluded from the study if you haven't been shot.

00:21:20.000 Correct.

00:21:21.000 And that matters because some people estimate the vast majority, but at least on the lowest estimate, half of all defensive firearm uses, don't require a single shot fired.

00:21:33.000 Right.

00:21:33.000 Simply the presence of a firearm.

00:21:34.000 It's definitely higher than half.

00:21:35.000 Yeah, I know.

00:21:36.000 I'm just trying to be generous to the public.

00:21:37.000 I've saw some that's only half, but what would you estimate it is?

00:21:40.000 Probably 90% or higher.

00:21:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:42.000 Easily.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, it's a very strong deterrent.

00:21:44.000 Just like how many times, you know, do you hear about a guard dog mauling somebody?

00:21:48.000 It's pretty rare.

00:21:49.000 Right.

00:21:49.000 They know there's a guard dog, they move on.

00:21:51.000 That's why I always say, as much as I love firearms, get a dog first.

00:21:51.000 Correct.

00:21:54.000 If you're looking to keep your house safe, you should have security, a security system, and a dog is one of the greatest deterrents. 0.99

00:22:00.000 It's your eyes and ears when, you know, if you're, well, if you're blind, deaf, and dumb.

00:22:04.000 I mean, I don't know, Helen Keller may need a guard dog. 0.98

00:22:06.000 The point is firearms are important, but it's not the panacea.

00:22:10.000 Uh, but just, just one note on this.

00:22:12.000 So this was back in the nineties.

00:22:14.000 Oprah did a show on this topic saying it was more dangerous to have guns in your house.

00:22:18.000 My grandparents had World War II bring backs, like historically significant guns.

00:22:23.000 My grandfather got put in the hospital with an infection.

00:22:27.000 And so my grandmother, when he was in the hospital, sold all of his World War II bring

00:22:31.000 back guns and didn't tell him.

00:22:34.000 And now we don't have them.

00:22:35.000 So yes, for real.

00:22:36.000 It sold them off for $200.

00:22:37.000 He was fooled by Oprah?

00:22:38.000 Yes, she was fooled by Oprah.

00:22:40.000 Oh my God.

00:22:41.000 But unfortunately now our family doesn't have those firearms that are historically significant 1.00

00:22:45.000 because of this stupid myth. 0.99

00:22:46.000 Well the good Lord giveth and then take, in your case, he taketh away. 0.99

00:22:50.000 But I told you about the three World War II-era firearms that I found in the attic in my house.

00:22:56.000 I found an old Colt Woodsman, and then I think it's a Beretta that's a .25 caliber, and then another Colt that was from the 1930s.

00:23:05.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:23:06.000 It was in a crawl space that was newly built, so it's not like it was old.

00:23:09.000 And I asked the construction workers, I said, is this your fire?

00:23:11.000 I asked everyone I knew.

00:23:12.000 I said, no.

00:23:13.000 So, I found three firearms that are between the years 1934 and I think 1942.

00:23:20.000 So, maybe they were your grandfather's.

00:23:21.000 They might have been.

00:23:22.000 They might have made their way.

00:23:23.000 He's like the Tooth Fairy with guns.

00:23:25.000 Here's something else, by the way, in this study, and I highly recommend you go and check

00:23:28.000 it out because the method, it's so flawed.

00:23:33.000 The sort of, the criteria they use is they use interviews with police and medical examiners,

00:23:37.000 right?

00:23:38.000 So a lot of this is reported on third, reported by third parties.

00:23:43.000 And here's how the case participants were defined.

00:23:45.000 Also, by the way, it doesn't take into account firearm training at all.

00:23:48.000 So this is a study that includes only people who've been shot right away, or you don't

00:23:54.000 And then you're basing the study on commentary from police officers, from medical examiners.

00:23:59.000 These people may have not had any firearm training whatsoever.

00:24:02.000 And here's a quote as far as how the case participants were defined.

00:24:05.000 We coded control participants as in possession if they reported any guns in a holster they were wearing.

00:24:11.000 Okay.

00:24:12.000 In a pocket or waistband, okay, in a nearby vehicle, or in another place, quickly available and ready to fire at the time of their matched cases shooting.

00:24:24.000 Okay, so I'll give them waistband, holster, vehicle, if the altercation took place in the vehicle.

00:24:30.000 It doesn't really matter if you're in your living room.

00:24:33.000 Uh, or other place that could be quickly available and ready to fire.

00:24:39.000 And that's not clearly defined.

00:24:42.000 This is one study that is so immensely flawed, anyone who cites, again, it's an agreed upon lie.

00:24:47.000 Right.

00:24:48.000 Also, here's something else to take into account.

00:24:50.000 There could be some truth to it.

00:24:52.000 For example, I was saying, well, if you're going to say that You're more likely to ever be involved with an accidental discharge if you handle a gun than if you've never touched a gun.

00:25:02.000 Absolutely true.

00:25:02.000 That's true.

00:25:03.000 Just like you're more likely to drown if you ever enter a pool.

00:25:07.000 Now that doesn't mean that somebody who is a competitive swimmer is more likely to drown than someone who's never swam before in their life, right?

00:25:14.000 The moment that you use that pool in your level of experience plays a huge significance.

00:25:19.000 in the danger factor. Right. And the same is true with somebody who's proficient with firearms.

00:25:23.000 Right. I mean, basics. By the way, it's not that hard to make sure that you don't do something

00:25:27.000 unsafe with a firearm. It doesn't take that long. And then, of course, you train it up as best as

00:25:32.000 you can. All right. This brings us to myth number one. And it was hard to pick number one. And we'll

00:25:37.000 do the technical issues. That's pretty fun because that's really his realm of expertise. Sure. I'm

00:25:41.000 just a I'm a I'm a caveman when it comes to that. I'm I usually just throw my firearm.

00:25:47.000 It's a technique where you reach out and do this when you shoot.

00:25:50.000 If I have a home intruder, the bullet is more likely to hit them in the cylinder than it is to actually be used as a projectile.

00:25:56.000 But the number one myth, you hear this a lot, is nobody needs a high-capacity magazine.

00:26:02.000 There's no reason someone needs a weapon of war with 100 rounds, 100 bullets, that can be fired.

00:26:11.000 From that weapon.

00:26:14.000 Nobody needs that.

00:26:16.000 Nobody needs that.

00:26:18.000 You just heard former Vice President Joe Biden in that clip early on say, you know, no one needs that.

00:26:23.000 Just get a shotgun.

00:26:25.000 Fire two rounds.

00:26:26.000 Again, I don't know how he can be all places at all times and know that that's what you would need.

00:26:31.000 But even going with that again, most defensive uses of firearms, OK, don't involve the weapon being discharged at all.

00:26:38.000 I want to be clear about that.

00:26:39.000 Now, when you get to the point where you're in a gunfight, meaning there's an exchange of gunfire or you have to use your firearm, That number changes dramatically.

00:26:48.000 So the stats are skewed with defensive uses of firearms, zero shots, and then any shots, and the number is significantly higher than you may anticipate.

00:26:57.000 And to be clear, this number can be argued.

00:27:00.000 It's not always necessarily clear because the way that people study gun violence isn't always very accurate and it's often politicized.

00:27:06.000 But the total average number of shots that we see, according to the crime data that's

00:27:11.000 available, that would be considered reputable, to stop an assailant is around 12.

00:27:17.000 Now, let me explain to you why that is.

00:27:19.000 The average number of hits to incapacitate a shooter is about 2.45.

00:27:24.000 That's what they average it out to.

00:27:25.000 The number of shots that actually hit the assailant are 1 out of 5, meaning 4 out of

00:27:29.000 5 tend to miss.

00:27:31.000 That's something that a lot of people don't take into account.

00:27:33.000 So if you take 5 and you multiply it by 2.45, you end up with 12.25 shots on average.

00:27:40.000 Now let's say that that could be anywhere between 5 and 12.

00:27:44.000 Let's say it's between 3 and 10.

00:27:48.000 The point is, the top end of that, with one assailant, if you're missing one out of five, which is probably the most clear statistic we have, puts you well beyond the idea of a double-barreled shotgun.

00:27:57.000 Right, and then you have three guys that kick in your door.

00:27:59.000 Yes.

00:28:00.000 And that is something, too.

00:28:01.000 The number of assailants, specifically involved in home invasions, have gone up.

00:28:06.000 And this is one of the, you can look at the statistics, or of course, you know what you've experienced, and you can believe your lion eyes and ears.

00:28:13.000 This is exclusive video caught on security cameras in the area where a St. Louis County

00:28:18.000 woman was shot and killed from bullets started flying outside her home.

00:28:21.000 As you can see, someone turns around in a yard and fire shots right at someone and then

00:28:26.000 that person returns fire.

00:28:30.000 Marmarita Automotive Group Skyfox was over the scene in the 300 block of Lanshire Road

00:28:35.000 in North St. Louis County where the tragedy all unfolded around 3 Tuesday morning.

00:28:40.000 In the video, it appears multiple people were exchanging gunfire from outside the victim's home on the front yard.

00:28:45.000 We were told the woman was inside the home.

00:28:47.000 Terrifying moments caught on camera as a Phoenix homeowner protects themselves from several suspects trying to break in.

00:28:54.000 The Phoenix Police Department released this surveillance video tonight.

00:28:58.000 You can see four men kicking in a front door only to be met by gunfire from the homeowner.

00:29:04.000 That homeowner says they were alerted by a motion sensor linked to their surveillance cameras and they were able to arm themselves just seconds before their door was kicked in.

00:29:14.000 The suspects quickly fled the scene in a gray car before officers arrived.

00:29:19.000 I think that guy just said a new 40 time.

00:29:21.000 He did.

00:29:21.000 Quick.

00:29:22.000 Very quickly.

00:29:23.000 Quick out of the gate.

00:29:24.000 One thing I wanted to add, just getting back to the incapacitate someone.

00:29:28.000 Yeah.

00:29:29.000 Especially with handguns, which is what the majority of folks are using.

00:29:33.000 They've done studies on Incapacitation if you will and

00:29:37.000 varies by the study just like everything else we talked about but somewhere between 70 to 85 percent of people who

00:29:43.000 are Incapacitated when they get shot, it's a psychological stop,

00:29:46.000 right? So you don't want to count on it, right?

00:29:48.000 So in order to physically incapacitate someone with especially with a hang on you have to hit their central

00:29:55.000 nervous system, right?

00:29:55.000 That's the only way so other than that It's either they bleed out or they quit right? So and that's

00:30:01.000 something you can't count on it, right?

00:30:02.000 We'll touch on the technical myths in the next installment Which I would recommend you click below or just you can go

00:30:08.000 through the the playlist where you'll get some people saying this well

00:30:11.000 Let's say well 20 more people are killed by Well, that's true, but if someone is killed, or, it could be true.

00:30:17.000 In other words, it can be just as lethal, but if you die four hours later in the emergency room, something you may not, like, you can get a lot of rapin' done.

00:30:25.000 You sure can.

00:30:26.000 Especially if you're wearing your old lucky raping slacks.

00:30:29.000 In those four hours time so it's about that like you're saying that central nervous system shock incapacitating trauma and usually that's either actual neurological damage or immediate blood loss as opposed to something lethal because you can get pierced through a lung and still go on for a while absolutely And aside from rape, they can be holding a gun, squeezing the trigger at you.

00:30:49.000 Exactly.

00:30:50.000 So that's probably more important in that instance.

00:30:52.000 Well, I mean, I don't know.

00:30:52.000 I mean, both tomato tomato.

00:30:53.000 They both seem unpleasant.

00:30:54.000 They do.

00:30:55.000 I agree with that. 0.99

00:30:56.000 I'd rather be shot than face old rapey McRaperson's lucky rapin' slacks. 1.00

00:31:01.000 I mean, I tell you what, I have heard stories and I don't want to take part. 0.93

00:31:05.000 But that'll bring us actually to the next installment, the Technical Myths.

00:31:08.000 So hopefully this has helped inform you, enlighten you.

00:31:11.000 If you like it, click the like button, subscribe, comment below which myth you run into the most and where you've heard it.

00:31:18.000 Because we've been through this, this is kind of remedial.

00:31:19.000 We've done these as different videos in the past, but we wanted to compile them as a reference piece and always make the references available to you so that you can dive in a little bit deeper.

00:31:28.000 And I highly recommend looking into that study regarding, you know, you being more likely to have your firearm used against you.

00:31:34.000 It's very eye-opening.

00:31:35.000 Flawed is an understatement.

00:31:37.000 Yes.

00:31:38.000 It's an understatement and you think, well, there must be others.

00:31:39.000 No, there really aren't.

00:31:41.000 That's what will often happen.

00:31:42.000 It will come from one piece of cherry-picked information from a flawed study that then

00:31:46.000 becomes something that is repeated.

00:31:49.000 Everyone knows that's true.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, everyone knows that's true.

00:31:52.000 Everyone knows that you're more likely to have your firearm used against you.

00:31:54.000 And then you just think, well, hold on a second.

00:31:57.000 Do you have any idea how hard it would be to Steven Seagal your gun against you?

00:32:01.000 It's slightly more difficult than in the movies.

00:32:02.000 Yes.

00:32:03.000 Slightly. 0.95

00:32:03.000 Especially, well, especially if you have your lucky raping slacks on. 0.95

00:32:07.000 So we'll see you in the next installment, Technical Myths with Mr. Guns and Gear.

00:32:11.000 Check out his YouTube channel.

00:32:12.000 This man knows far more about firearms.

00:32:15.000 Well, he's forgotten more than we'll ever know.

00:32:16.000 and see you in that next installment, Gun Week.

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GUN WEEK w- Mrgunsngear | Ep 3. Gun Myths Debunked: Chapter 1

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