The Founding Fathers understood that only an armed people could truly be a free people. So this week, join us as we tackle the subject of firearms from every angle possible. In today's episode, let's examine and debunk some of the most egregious technical myths regarding firearms and how they've become so pervasive.
00:00:02.000Now, the Founding Fathers understood that only an armed people could truly be a free people.
00:00:08.000So this week, I invite you to join me and Mug Club's resident gun aficionado, Mr. Guns N' Gears, as we tackle the subject of firearms from every angle possible.
00:00:20.000In today's episode, let's examine and debunk some of the most egregious technical myths regarding firearms and how they've become so pervasive.
00:00:28.000It's the 4th of July and firearms are as American as, I guess, the American flag.
00:00:35.000You can hit the like button if you like the fact that the United States fought off the world's greatest superpower of one century only to become the world's only superpower of the next century for all of its flaws.
00:00:45.000And this is installment number two of most common gun myths that you hear.
00:00:50.000We wanted to separate them into two categories because we have Mr. Guns and Gear here, I highly recommend that you go check out his channel, check out his content.
00:00:57.000He's forgotten more about firearms than I'll ever know, I think is the expression.
00:01:11.000When we were out at the range, if you went and watched the ballistics video, we were all delirious because we had lost probably about 10 pounds of water that day.
00:01:26.000So we wanted to specifically get into now more of the technical myths that you may hear about firearms as opposed to sort of constitutional myths that you might hear or lack therein as far as constitutional application.
00:01:36.000This is more what you might hear about firearms that might scare you away from Guns in general.
00:01:45.000Myth number seven, that you've probably heard quite a bit and run into, is the AR-15 is a weapon of war that was intended only for military use.
00:01:55.000When they issued the following statement, they said, Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47.
00:02:07.000He died long before any mass shootings occurred, but we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more so by these events.
00:02:15.000And they went on to tell me that he personally, although he was an avid shooter and an outdoorsman, never owned the AR-15, his key invention.
00:02:23.000He never used it for personal defense.
00:03:42.000Well, I think that one is, let me consider that myth cooked.
00:03:46.000And by the way, a reason that they're so popular, we'll get into this more later on, is that AR-15s are, they're popular because they're versatile.
00:04:50.000Well, it's just a rule of kinetic energy that people understand.
00:04:53.000I haven't fired many double-barreled shotguns, but I've fired pump shotguns, and that alone is far more recoiling than, for example, a semi-automatic shotgun, because part of that energy is used to cycle the next round.
00:05:03.000Right, or even a pump-action shotgun, the biggest malfunction, or the most common malfunction people have is called short-shocking, where essentially they don't run the action hard enough.
00:05:12.000You have to do that after every round.
00:05:16.000Every single woman I've taken it goes, wow, that is surprisingly easy to shoot because they're thinking, uh, well, I guess I believe what they've been told that it's this unbelievable unwieldy rifle.
00:05:25.000Um, and it couldn't be further from the truth, which brings us to another, this one's a fun myth.
00:05:30.000We're going over this myth number six.
00:05:33.000I don't know how common it is, but I have run into people who believe it, and we certainly know that former Vice President Biden believes it.
00:05:40.000The myth is that 9mm blows the lung out of the body.
00:05:45.000A 9mm bullet blows the lung out of the body.
00:06:20.000But a grown adult, the idea that a nine millimeter would blow a lung out of a body, this is someone, again, who It's either gross incompetence or it is absolute dishonesty.
00:06:29.000I'll give you concrete evidence for that.
00:06:32.000Tupac was shot in the lung and had to have it surgically removed afterwards.
00:07:31.000And .45, obviously, people will say with modern ballistics, it's more comparable, but it's a much heavier bullet traveling.
00:07:36.000Historically, .45, .357, these are seen as more powerful rounds.
00:07:40.0009mm sort of became the round of choice because it is effective enough while still being controllable and can be in a package that could include a capacity like, for example, a Glock, a Walther, some of the modern firearms.
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00:08:00.000Where you have something that's controllable, Effective enough kind of minimum effective dose right and it also has minimal recoil as well So you can get your follow-up shots faster.
00:08:09.000So with handguns we talked about incapacitation in the previous video and With handguns, you don't want to count on a one-shot stop because it's highly unlikely You want to put as many rounds on target as quickly as possible until the threat stops essentially so nine millimeter allows you to do that easier than the other cartridges simply because they have more recoil and Right.
00:08:28.000And I think, this seems like remedial, I know we'll have people in the, and believe me, I understand where you're coming from and I appreciate you, if you're a firearm enthusiast, and everyone knows that 9mm doesn't blow, but not everybody knows that.
00:09:51.000At close range, it could very easily be argued it's the most lethal.
00:09:55.000Of common firearms, within 25 yards, no doubt, 12 gauge is the most lethal.
00:10:01.000It's just that you're most familiar with it.
00:10:03.000And so they want to keep you disconnected.
00:10:05.000They want to keep you unfamiliar with it.
00:10:07.000They want 9mm to be something that's scary off in the distance.
00:10:11.000Your double barrel or pump shotgun, 12 gauge shotgun, is far more deadly, far more difficult to control, and certainly more scary to a home intruder.
00:10:20.000So that's why there's nothing wrong with it.
00:10:22.000If you like your pump shotgun, go ahead and keep it.
00:10:24.000I don't recommend shooting it into the air.
00:11:32.000Now, I don't know where it comes from.
00:11:34.000Whether or not it was because the mob like to use silence 22s for certain hits or something like that
00:11:40.000I have no idea, but it's absolutely not true the 22 performs like every other bullet just smaller and lighter
00:11:44.000But yeah, there's no bouncing around they can curve they can yaw
00:11:49.000But bounce no yeah, or bouncing or sometimes what people will refer to is if they can tumble which means you know if
00:11:55.000it goes In it might do a little bit of do a little bit of this
00:11:58.000action I don't know how much you can, I don't have a monitor, see on camera, where it does a little bit of this, but any, any, any bullet can do that.
00:12:04.000Correct, and they'll do it more, in fact.
00:12:07.000But a lot of people believe, let me ask you, comment below, did you believe that one?
00:12:11.000A lot of people did, and then, did you ever just go through the basic The basic noggin test, where you go, hold on a second, okay, basically there's brain, think of a bunch of jello in your head, right, and some solid, depending, in my case it's mostly jello, and it's bouncing off a skull, which would be moist, so it's not that much of sort of a ricochet, you know, ricocheting surface, and it would bounce back through jello and, you know, relatively hard matter,
00:12:39.000Back again, of course it makes no sense and it defies physics, but you have a lot of people who believe it and that's because of, sometimes, such an irrational fear of firearms that people choose to believe myths because they don't want to be bothered to do research.
00:12:59.000And something else, I guess, that we could probably touch on at this kind of same point in time, the myth that, well, actually, the .22 is the most deadly round.
00:13:06.000Because at some point in time, there were more deaths from the .22 than other calibers, and that's just because it was the caliber that most people had.
00:14:11.000This came from actually Nancy, and she's a very, very smart woman, but we just sort of compiled these from what people here actually believe, and she had heard, this is myth number four, that the .22 caliber has a lot or a disproportionate number of spontaneous firings that it's more likely to accidentally discharge.
00:14:40.00022, for folks that don't know, is a rimfire cartridge.
00:14:43.000So most of the cartridges that we're talking about are center fired, meaning they have to be struck in the center of the back of the cartridge, whereas 22 doesn't.
00:14:50.000But I can't see how being a rimfire cartridge would cause a discharge.
00:14:55.000Yeah, well, what is true is typically because it's rimfire, right, it's easier to mass produce, and so you end up with significantly lower quality ammo.
00:15:02.000This could maybe be true if in a fit of frustration from having another non-discharging at all .22, which is very common, you smack your piece of crap gun saying fire, and it accidentally discharges.
00:18:00.000And yeah, it's obviously nowhere near that, not even close.
00:18:03.000And I argue often that if you're talking about penetration and what you actually want for most shooting scenarios, particularly civilian shooting scenarios, i.e.
00:19:24.000What we are saying is that it added complications if they had winter coats, they had those jackets which were very, you know, tightly woven.
00:20:39.000I recommend going down to either number one buckshot.
00:20:41.000You're going to take, on average, two to three inches of penetration off.
00:20:46.000Number four will take about another two to three inches of penetration off and still give you good lethality and not risk what we saw with birdshot.
00:21:31.000Which, I don't know how that happened, but when we were talking about this, we were saying, yeah, this myth, we were going, and Ginger Snap, who works with us in research, he said, wait, people say Birdshot is, he's from Kansas, he said, my friend was shot with Birdshot and he can still mostly see out of that eye.
00:21:45.000Oh yeah, there's a video online of a guy, breaks into a house, and it's like,
00:21:50.000unfortunately it's a woman, shoots him with birdshot.
00:21:53.000He, at the time, is maybe five yards away.
00:21:56.000He runs towards her, grabs a gun, and hits her in the head with it.
00:22:00.000So he was completely not impacted by it at all.
00:22:03.000And I know what some people say, well yeah, I bet you don't wanna be standing in front of my,
00:22:07.000no one's saying that we wanna be shot with birdshot, but add PCP to the mix, right?
00:22:45.000For example, we were talking about .380.
00:22:47.000Now some people argue, and I understand why they're both sides of this, with modern ammunition that you can get a .380 in a hollow point that can penetrate deeply enough to effectively expand.
00:22:57.000But, historically, there was a strong case to be made, and some still can make it, with .380, that using ball ammo, meaning basic ammo that is not a hollow point, is a better idea because you run the risk of underpenetration.
00:23:08.000There are discussions like that, that I think both sides have valid points.
00:23:12.000There is nothing valid about birdshot for home defense.
00:23:44.000My dog, one time he was running, we were at a lake in Oklahoma, and he was running, there were three Canadian geese, and he just kind of ran up, and then they all just spread their wings, and he was like, I don't even want to anyway, and he ran off.
00:24:22.000So, Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, or walk out, put that double-barrel shotgun, and fire two blasts outside the house.
00:24:33.000I promise you, whoever's coming in is not gonna... You don't need an AR-15.
00:24:37.000It's harder to aim, it's harder to use, and in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself.
00:25:16.000The truth... The truth is, it really depends on the load you're using and the type of shotgun, but as a general rule, sort of a baseline to go off of a buckshot is going to
00:25:27.000expand in terms of the group pattern at about one inch for every yard.
00:25:31.000Now you can change that with different chokes, you can change it with different ammunition
00:25:35.000that's designed to spread less or spread more, but with a, it's called a cylinder bore, which
00:25:41.000is like your standard Remington 870 home defense gun has.
00:25:45.000With that, you can expect a spread of about an inch at every yard, which means at 10 yards, which is pretty far for a home defense shooting.
00:25:52.000For a home defense, it'd be pretty far.
00:25:53.000I mean, if you live in the house in the shining.
00:26:01.000Not only would you have to aim, but again, if you're talking about the risk of, you know, walls, obviously.
00:26:05.000Some could argue you'd want to be more accurate to make sure that you're not off-center.
00:26:08.000But this idea that it's going to be... Remember when, in the old Bugs Bunny, I don't know how many times I've referenced Bugs Bunny, the old cartoons was like the bees would turn into one big giant bee and they'd think that that's what a shotgun is.
00:26:20.000Like, at five yards, it's a stop sign.
00:26:26.000So, for lethality, you want them to be closer together, for sure.
00:26:29.000That's why, as I mentioned, a lot of people will add chokes, and a choke basically is just a screw-in device that screws into the end of your barrel, and it forces the rounds to come together as they exit, so that way they stay in a tighter pattern.
00:27:20.000But again, it varies a lot by the round you're using, but it definitely... All things being equal, which they never are, birdshot will spread more.
00:27:27.000It doesn't matter though, because it's still just birdshot.
00:27:47.000You are more of a man or woman than myself.
00:27:49.000I mean, I was raised in Canada, so I couldn't really serve here, but thank you.
00:27:52.000However, This myth that we hear quite a bit is that oh mil spec means it's the best or mil spec means it's superior where sometimes it's just used it's used as a marketing term correct it's used as a marketing term but it's also a baseline standard exactly that's really what it is for military weapons and a lot of folks
00:28:11.000like competitive shooters, for example, that have these $3,000 race guns,
00:28:14.000they're always like, don't call my gun Mil-Spec, that's trash, they get offended.
00:28:19.000So, but yeah, Mil-Spec is literally what it says, it's the military specification for a given item.
00:28:26.000So on the AR-15, it's the specification for the barrel, it's the specification for the receiver,
00:28:30.000it's the specification for the stock, et cetera.
00:28:45.000So I'm not saying Mil-Spec's bad, but it doesn't mean that it's better than anything for sure.
00:28:50.000Well, you will get some people, you know, again, thank you to everyone who served, but then you'll get the sometimes people who are referred to as vet bros, like, no, no, I only use this mil spec and they'll make fun of someone else.
00:28:58.000Well, hold on a second, actually, like you're saying, that's the minimum baseline of quality.
00:29:02.000But even by the way, some things that are mil spec, soldiers in some cases, especially special forces, they will level up and get something that's better than basic.
00:29:10.000So a lot of like, take the AR-15, for example.
00:29:14.000A lot of the current changes that are happening with the air pattern guns in the military are coming from the three-gun world and the competitive world.
00:29:22.000So like, for example, now they're adding longer handguards, free-float handguards to enable shooters to basically shoot them better, more proficiently.
00:29:32.000Those are not mil spec, but because they're being adopted by units and being tested by units now
00:29:37.000For example, the latest one has been the URGI, which is the upper receiver
00:29:43.000Improvement I believe that's what it stands for But I had a UTI. Yeah. Yeah, just drink some cranberry.
00:29:51.000That's about say yeah, so but the URGI I think it's another big ploy just just by big ocean spray
00:29:56.000Is that a thing? Yeah, it's big big cranberry big cranberry But the URGI
00:30:02.000Basically, it's been adopted by lots of military units now and all of the influence on it has come from competitive
00:30:10.000shooting Just to make it faster. So the mil spec is
00:30:15.000And it's evolving because sometimes, not always, there's better than mil-spec, so why not make that the new mil-spec, right?
00:30:23.000And I don't necessarily know how standardized it is, where sometimes people will slap it in a magazine ad or sometimes online.
00:30:30.000The point is, don't just look for that term and think that you have your bases covered, right?
00:30:36.000Great firearms out there that wouldn't probably just list mil-spec, and there's some not-so-great firearms that have been marketing themselves and using the term mil-spec.
00:30:42.000So that's why we wanted to address that, because you will have some people say, hey, I know mil-spec.
00:30:49.000We have a plus one here, but you know, the plus one is you should never dry fire your weapon, and I don't know that's not Not true, unless you have an older school revolver where it's a firing pin.
00:31:00.000But the plus one that I wanted to address is kind of continuing on, but it wasn't really like a myth that's that pervasive, but you hear it a lot and it's stupid and it bothers me.
00:31:11.000This is just sort of, I guess, let's call it the amalgamate of a lot of these other myths that then people become married to, where you'll hear, for example, and this is with the military culture a little bit, say, I carry my gun Israeli style.
00:32:15.000But you also have to understand, like we said with MilSpec, meaning a baseline of quality, you know, you do have people, it's mandatory, right, to go into the Israeli military.
00:32:23.000The reason that they have to have someone carried Israeli-style with an empty chamber is because it's going to be carried literally by Gal Gadot.
00:32:31.000Not because it's the most effective way to be ready for an armed conflict, but because you want to make sure that people who have no business being in the military, and I don't know if she could have been a great soldier, I have no idea.
00:32:42.000But there are plenty of people who have no business being in the military who do find themselves in the Israeli military, so it's, look, Just carry it with an empty chamber and the safety on.
00:32:50.000You're probably never going to use it anyway.
00:32:52.000And, you know, don't brush your hair with it.
00:33:21.000And everyone's afraid of the guy with the gun.
00:33:23.000This happens a lot for people with liability, right?
00:33:25.000For example, these are other myths that you can make, like, oh, having your firearm, and this depends too, if you get, you get the wrong judge in this country.
00:33:35.000Biometrics, right, fingerprint safes, some of them are far easier to hack and Jimmy open than, uh, than other forms of, of, Well, other safes, and by the way, there's some, I don't know what you call those where it's different, like a speed, like you kind of have to hit certain things at the same time.
00:33:47.000It's not biometric, but... Oh, I know what you're talking about, though.
00:33:53.000Anyway, it's not a combination safe, but there are all kinds of different safes out there that can be more effective than a biometric safe.
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