Louder with Crowder - February 13, 2025


Here's Exactly Why Trump's Ukraine Plan is Triggering Dems & NeoCons


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Ilhan Omar is facing calls to be deported because newly unearthed documents reveal that she in fact married her biological brother. Yes, she did. She did more than just have sex with her husband's brother. She had sex with him.

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00:00:00.000 Well, 69, now it's time for new believable people and we must do it.
00:00:09.000 If we don't control insiders, this will be...
00:00:14.000 Hi there.
00:00:15.000 Hope you're well.
00:00:16.000 You may have heard recently as breaking news that Ilhan Omar is facing calls to be deported because newly unearthed documents reveal that she in fact married The thing here is we've known this for years, we've taken it a step further and we make no apologies for it so let's go back to the vault
00:00:38.000 Your lipstick is color Don't bother you a lot I know exactly what goes on Ilan Omar married her Owned biological brother 0.99
00:01:08.000 I wish this was a joke But I'm completely serious, yeah Some people did something I will just say I have no interest in commenting about my personal life.
00:01:22.000 And will you tell all your friends Omar married her sibling?
00:01:28.000 This song was super necessary, this song was super necessary.
00:01:33.000 And will you tell all your friends Ilan married her sibling?
00:01:38.000 This song was super necessary, this song was super necessary.
00:01:43.000 Let's go!
00:01:44.000 Don't bother trying to explain it to me, I know exactly what goes on with your I know exactly what goes on with your bro.
00:02:03.000 How about I'm here fact checking your stuff?
00:02:08.000 So mess up there, can keep the details covered to get a visa you slapped your brother.
00:02:13.000 And will you tell all your friends Omar married her sibling?
00:02:19.000 This song was super necessary, this song was super necessary.
00:02:24.000 And will you tell all your friends Ilan married her sibling?
00:02:29.000 This song was super necessary, this song was super necessary.
00:02:34.000 Let's go!
00:02:35.000 Super Hands!
00:02:42.000 I'm super worried you're asking these questions.
00:02:46.000 This goes to questions.
00:02:48.000 You understand what no comments mean?
00:02:54.000 Just in case you claim this song's misinformation, here's a pic of the marriage certificate, yeah.
00:02:59.000 No one never asked and you will never tell, but we know the truth is that you honeymoon with your bro.
00:03:04.000 And all of this is super gross!
00:03:38.000 Unholy matrimony! 1.00
00:03:39.000 The only thing worse than Hezbollah! 1.00
00:03:42.000 Is terroristic incest! 1.00
00:03:45.000 You two wet and consummate it! 1.00
00:03:47.000 Unholy matrimony! 1.00
00:03:49.000 Your grandkids will look like they're from The Movie Delivery!
00:03:54.000 You two wet and consummate it! 1.00
00:03:57.000 Unholy matrimony! 1.00
00:03:59.000 Your grandkids will look like they're from The Movie Delivery!
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00:04:37.000 We'll be right back.
00:05:07.000 We'll be right back.
00:05:17.000 My back is doing a little better.
00:05:18.000 I have this little pillow.
00:05:19.000 Seems to help.
00:05:21.000 Now you're hurt because you bent over.
00:05:24.000 I thought I'd broadcast like this.
00:05:26.000 So, so much to get to today.
00:05:28.000 Obviously, everyone is talking about Russia, Ukraine.
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00:05:41.000 You just saw Tim Pool yesterday.
00:05:43.000 And today is one of those days where we very well may be suspended from YouTube.
00:05:46.000 We're okay with it.
00:05:47.000 So, let me just do this right now.
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00:05:55.000 Eastern.
00:05:56.000 And please, share this right now because we're going to get into some controversies.
00:06:00.000 It's actually the mildest topic that we just covered.
00:06:03.000 Ilhan Omar copulating with her brother.
00:06:06.000 If you can believe it, that's the least offensive portion of today's show.
00:06:09.000 She did more than copulate. 1.00
00:06:10.000 Yes.
00:06:11.000 Yes, she did.
00:06:14.000 So we're going to talk about the Ukraine plan, Russia, addressing both sides.
00:06:19.000 I am going to tell you that I think this is the best case scenario right now.
00:06:23.000 That doesn't mean it's the best case scenario possible.
00:06:29.000 And you know what?
00:06:31.000 I think the most important thing is to send a message to Europe right now.
00:06:34.000 No one wins.
00:06:36.000 So the only win that we can hope for is telling Europe to unscrew themselves and start taking care of their own business.
00:06:43.000 How about that?
00:06:44.000 Comment below.
00:06:44.000 We have a window in time to do it, and I'm okay with it.
00:06:47.000 Stop thumbing your noses at us, you arrogant pricks. 0.95
00:06:50.000 The left is claiming that Donald Trump is lawless because of his executive orders. 0.97
00:06:55.000 Hint, anytime the left claims to care about constitutionality, they're lying to you.
00:06:59.000 And we're actually going to have President Donald Trump on the program with the circuit judge today who tried to block one of his executive orders, and they've agreed to have a discussion regarding that.
00:07:10.000 That'd be interesting.
00:07:11.000 So, Captain Morgan, CEO, I hope you're doing well.
00:07:14.000 Mr. Feierstein, I hope you are doing well, sir.
00:07:17.000 Let's go first to this.
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00:07:57.000 My body doesn't define my gender.
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00:08:06.000 I'm glad you are.
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00:08:25.000 That's what I think. 1.00
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00:08:36.000 Be consistent with your spellcasting.
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00:08:43.000 Yeah.
00:08:47.000 Don't throw it all in the same pot.
00:08:49.000 One of those actually has an effect.
00:08:51.000 What?
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00:08:54.000 It's not going up.
00:08:55.000 Why did they pick the demon voice filter on that?
00:08:58.000 I'm not sure.
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00:09:17.000 Now, Tuesday and Wednesday, and I know this is going to be the theme of today.
00:09:23.000 The left screams fascism.
00:09:25.000 The left screams oppression.
00:09:28.000 Because they experience some things that they don't like.
00:09:30.000 You know what?
00:09:30.000 I've got to do this.
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00:09:43.000 I'll have to get your recipe book.
00:09:47.000 So, the left says this is an example of fascism.
00:09:50.000 And I want to be really clear here.
00:09:52.000 There is a difference between the White House press briefings and these press, I guess, conferences that take place in the Oval Office.
00:10:00.000 Brilliantly played.
00:10:01.000 If you don't fully understand the subtext, you may actually give credence to the left's wailing and gnashing of teeth.
00:10:08.000 So, AP reporters, Associated Press that used to be considered the gold standard, they've been blocked from covering these White House events in the Oval Office.
00:10:18.000 And, of course, everyone is furious.
00:10:20.000 They say fascism should be noted.
00:10:22.000 That has not stopped the Associated Press from trying to sneak in.
00:10:26.000 Now, they are...
00:10:28.000 That's not going to get you in.
00:10:30.000 They're not getting in because they refuse to refer to the Gulf of America as Gulf of America.
00:10:35.000 They're still saying Gulf of Mexico.
00:10:37.000 So, this is an issue because it's important to this administration.
00:10:42.000 And there's no guesswork with this lovely new press secretary, Ms. Levitt.
00:10:49.000 This is the latest installment of Sweet Caroline.
00:10:52.000 So, Levitt reiterated press policies at the White House.
00:11:08.000 Listen carefully.
00:11:10.000 Which White House official made the decision to bar the AP reporter from the Oval Office and the diplomatic reception room last night?
00:11:16.000 Well, first of all, let me just set the record straight.
00:11:19.000 Pause one second.
00:11:20.000 Rewind.
00:11:21.000 I just want you, before you listen carefully, I just want you...
00:11:25.000 Especially if you're on audio.
00:11:26.000 Yes, these are both women. 1.00
00:11:29.000 When you hear, could you explain that it's been barred from the press conference?
00:11:34.000 And then you hear a lovely feminine voice.
00:11:35.000 I know it shouldn't matter, but it does to me.
00:11:38.000 Okay, let's play from the top.
00:11:39.000 Which White House official made the decision to bar the AP reporter from the Oval Office and the diplomatic reception room last night?
00:11:46.000 Well, first of all, let me just set the record straight.
00:11:48.000 It is a privilege to cover this White House.
00:11:51.000 It's a privilege to be the White House press secretary.
00:11:53.000 And nobody has the right to go into the Oval Office and ask the President of the United States questions.
00:11:59.000 That's an invitation that is given.
00:12:01.000 And there are hundreds of outlets on this campus.
00:12:03.000 Many of you in this room who don't have the privilege of being part of that pool every single day and getting to ask the president questions We reserve the right to decide who gets to go into the Oval Office And you all have credentials to be here including the Associated Press who is in this briefing room today Now This is important because for example when we started Mug Club, which is now Rumble Premium We had a lot of people approaching us saying hey Hey free is the enemy of premium and they wanted us to take away all of our free content
00:12:33.000 The reason I... Use this example because it was very important to us that you never remove content that has been available to the public, but you can add more.
00:12:43.000 They have added more.
00:12:44.000 They still have the basic press briefings, the White House briefings.
00:12:48.000 Now they've added press briefings of conferences straight from the Oval Office.
00:12:53.000 That's his office, the President's office.
00:12:55.000 That's a bonus.
00:12:56.000 That is very, very well played.
00:12:58.000 Gives them some extra control without.
00:13:02.000 I mean, for proof, you see that man voice Collins was there herself.
00:13:08.000 Cameron Collins.
00:13:09.000 Yes.
00:13:10.000 She went on to make it really clear as to why they're not allowed in the Oval Office.
00:13:16.000 I was very upfront in my briefing on day one that if we feel that there are lies being pushed by outlets in this room, we are going to hold those lies accountable.
00:13:25.000 And it is a fact that the body of water off the coast of Louisiana is called the Gulf of America.
00:13:31.000 And I'm not sure why news outlets don't want to call it that, but that is what it is.
00:13:36.000 The Secretary of Interior has made that the official designation in the Geographical Identification Name Server, and Apple has recognized that.
00:13:45.000 Google has recognized that.
00:13:46.000 Pretty much every other outlet in this room has recognized that body of water as the Gulf of America, and it's very important to this administration that we get that right, not just for people here at home, but also for the rest of the world.
00:13:57.000 Let's just all agree to call it Hurricane Harbor at this point.
00:14:05.000 That's like a party to me.
00:14:06.000 Or Oily Shrimpville.
00:14:08.000 I don't want slides there.
00:14:10.000 Just bring a bottle of Dawn.
00:14:12.000 You'll be fine.
00:14:13.000 Like sun lotion?
00:14:15.000 Do you guys say this is an attack on free speech?
00:14:19.000 Or should the AP be allowed to call it Gulf of Mexico?
00:14:22.000 Aren't they supposed to be?
00:14:24.000 Report.
00:14:24.000 This is the name change.
00:14:26.000 It's the legal name.
00:14:27.000 It really does seem as though they're being petty and they want some kind of a win.
00:14:32.000 I would actually consider this one a loss, especially when you are dealing with the lovely Caroline.
00:14:38.000 I've never wanted to be a podium so badly in my life.
00:14:52.000 Stop it.
00:14:53.000 Also, wouldn't that count as deadnaming?
00:14:56.000 Yes.
00:14:56.000 Yes, it does.
00:14:57.000 Do not deadname that golf.
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00:15:37.000 Let's go to Ukraine.
00:15:40.000 Look.
00:15:41.000 I'm going to read for you what Donald Trump has said.
00:15:43.000 We're going to get into what Mr. Hegseth has said and why this is a good play at this point in time.
00:15:51.000 It's not lost on me.
00:15:52.000 There are no winners in war.
00:15:54.000 We don't find ourselves in an ideal situation.
00:15:56.000 But right now, at this moment in time, it's the right thing to do.
00:15:59.000 So this morning, Donald Trump dropped a new post on ending the war in Ukraine on Truth Social.
00:16:04.000 He said, great talks with Russia!
00:16:07.000 And Ukraine yesterday, good possibility of ending that horrible, very bloody war, three exclamation marks, because it's very bloody.
00:16:14.000 And it's all, all caps.
00:16:16.000 And this is where we, we're going to go through this here, kind of three key facts that I think you need to, this is really the only option left right now.
00:16:26.000 Your choices are, continue this war.
00:16:28.000 And by that I mean the United States funding this war, right?
00:16:30.000 Because Ukraine wouldn't be able to do anything without the funding of the United States.
00:16:33.000 Continue many, many more lives lost, likely millions, and end up in the same place.
00:16:39.000 And we will show you irrefutably why that is very likely the case.
00:16:43.000 I argued at the beginning of this that it was a foregone conclusion.
00:16:46.000 This is where we would end up.
00:16:47.000 And I think what's most important here, and Donald Trump, President Trump, and Hegseth, they are taking this opportunity to tell Europe to unscrew themselves.
00:16:58.000 And start doing their own work.
00:17:01.000 Let the United States focus on the United States and Europe, NATO. You want to play these games, start paying your fair share, and hey, maybe you won't be able to brag about those entitlement programs so much when you have to defend your own borders.
00:17:15.000 It's time for insane in the Ukraine I'm sad we won't be able to use that stinger so much anymore It's really him. 1.00
00:17:29.000 I know.
00:17:30.000 I thought it was just a lookalike.
00:17:33.000 So what happened at the brief timeline yesterday, right, Donald Trump, it broke, and we actually covered it as it was happening.
00:17:40.000 He spoke with Vladimir Putin about ending the war in Ukraine.
00:17:43.000 So the left equates that to he's buddies with Putin and he's on Putin's side.
00:17:49.000 Okay.
00:17:49.000 Right after that, Donald Trump also confirmed that he had spoken with Zelensky.
00:17:54.000 Okay.
00:17:55.000 So, he had spoken with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, who's been president for a while, too.
00:18:00.000 I don't know if you know, they don't have elections.
00:18:01.000 No, not well.
00:18:02.000 The beacon of democracy.
00:18:04.000 You kind of, you suspend them sometimes.
00:18:04.000 You suspend them.
00:18:05.000 You suspend them.
00:18:06.000 Sometimes.
00:18:06.000 Indefinitely.
00:18:07.000 Ukrainian officials then confirmed with footage of Zelensky immediately following the call.
00:18:12.000 *Gunshot*
00:18:40.000 *Gunshot* *Gunshot* *Gunshot* *Gunshot* What? 0.85
00:18:46.000 It's an inanimate f***ing object! 0.99
00:18:48.000 You're an inanimate f***ing object! 1.00
00:18:50.000 Look, it's a bad day. 1.00
00:18:52.000 Yeah.
00:18:54.000 So the conversation, of course, inspired meltdowns.
00:18:58.000 And I know that there's no good team here, but the Europeans, the Democrats, the neocons who really, really wanted this war to continue.
00:19:05.000 And talking to people in the defence establishment, what I'm hearing are things like this.
00:19:11.000 They, the US administration, are doing this above Zelensky's head.
00:19:17.000 Well, that's not that hard to do, right?
00:19:19.000 And on the overall approach, which is that no way will Vladimir Putin get all he wants, which is Ukraine, but Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky will lose a huge amount of Ukraine.
00:19:30.000 This is what I'm hearing of the US administration. 0.99
00:19:34.000 The bastards are going to do this. 0.99
00:19:37.000 So it means that not only is unprovoked aggression by Russia against Ukraine now OK, every other former Republican, the Soviet Union, is vulnerable to the same thing without any indication that the US will do anything about it. 1.00
00:19:53.000 And I think the people who are paying...
00:19:55.000 The closest attention to this outside in Ukraine are in Beijing, where they see the United States unwilling to act against unprovoked aggression in the center of Europe.
00:20:06.000 What are they thinking now about Taiwan?
00:20:08.000 I'll tell you what, it's the exact opposite of that, you, Rube.
00:20:11.000 This is specifically so that we can be prepared for a conflict that does involve American self-interest, Taiwan.
00:20:18.000 And Secretary of Defense Hegseth made that very, very clear.
00:20:21.000 This is the issue.
00:20:22.000 They are being dishonest to you.
00:20:24.000 Also, this could happen anyway.
00:20:25.000 Does anyone actually think that Putin is going to be marching on Poland?
00:20:28.000 First off, I think there was an argument to be made back.
00:20:31.000 I didn't necessarily think so.
00:20:32.000 But at this point, it's not even feasible.
00:20:35.000 And if that does happen, hey, NATO, step up and do your job.
00:20:38.000 It's not America's job.
00:20:40.000 It's disingenuous.
00:20:41.000 They're doing this to specifically subvert your understanding here that this shows Taiwan.
00:20:47.000 No, no, this is the opposite of that.
00:20:49.000 We're letting Taiwan know, hey. 0.99
00:20:50.000 You guys are a priority for us, not another corrupt installed government, Ukraine and Russia. 0.55
00:20:57.000 They're both bad. 0.83
00:20:58.000 There's evil and worse with Ukraine and Russia. 1.00
00:21:00.000 Can we agree on that?
00:21:01.000 And by the way, I wish I loved war or anything as much as John Bolton loves war.
00:21:04.000 Gosh, they're going to clip that of me now.
00:21:05.000 It looks like he also loves Scooby Snacks.
00:21:07.000 Yes, he does.
00:21:08.000 He does.
00:21:08.000 He does.
00:21:09.000 A terrier.
00:21:09.000 Nailed it.
00:21:11.000 And then President Trump said this specifically about Ukrainian aid.
00:21:16.000 We're getting security on our money.
00:21:18.000 We're going to have it.
00:21:20.000 They have raw earth, and they have oil and gas, and they have a lot of other things, and we're asking for security in our money.
00:21:27.000 They've agreed to it.
00:21:29.000 Ukraine has agreed to it.
00:21:30.000 It doesn't mean you are not sending anymore into Ukraine.
00:21:33.000 No, we are, but we want it secured, and the money is going to be secured.
00:21:37.000 Because if we didn't do that, then Putin would say he won.
00:21:40.000 We're the thing that's holding it back, and frankly, we'll go as long as we have to go, because we're not going to let the other happen.
00:21:49.000 Very balanced, which of course inspired a meltdown from the Russia stance.
00:21:54.000 So you can't please the Ukraine bros. 0.65
00:22:12.000 You can't please the Russia stans.
00:22:13.000 And I know that both sides are mad with us because, look, balls and strikes are balls and strikes, okay?
00:22:18.000 To be clear, this is a fruitless endeavor.
00:22:21.000 The territories aren't going to change, right?
00:22:23.000 The battle lines.
00:22:24.000 To think that this is going to go back to a map that we had pre-2014 Ukraine is simply not feasible.
00:22:30.000 The idea that Russia right now is going to march on Poland is just, it defies reason.
00:22:35.000 And if it...
00:22:36.000 If it were to happen, hey, that's NATO's job.
00:22:38.000 And without the United States, guess what?
00:22:41.000 There is no offense mounted by Ukraine. 0.94
00:22:44.000 And we're tired of the rest of the world demanding money while you tell us that you have free health care and free internet and whatever it is that you gays in Europe do. 1.00
00:22:53.000 Let me tell you why this plan makes perfect sense at this moment in time.
00:22:57.000 Number one, President Trump started from a position of strength.
00:23:01.000 Right after his inauguration, he wrote this on truth.
00:23:04.000 I'm going to do Russia, whose economy is failing, and President Putin a very big favor.
00:23:11.000 Settle now and stop this ridiculous war.
00:23:13.000 It's only going to get worse if we don't make a deal, and soon I have no other choice but to put high levels of taxes, tariffs, and sanctions on anything being sold by Russia to the United States and various other participating countries.
00:23:27.000 Could be many.
00:23:29.000 We can do it the easy way or the hard way.
00:23:32.000 The easy way.
00:23:34.000 It's always better.
00:23:35.000 He made it very clear.
00:23:37.000 And the thing is with Donald Trump, President Trump, you know he could do the crazy stuff that he says he may do.
00:23:43.000 He's made a career off of being unpredictable.
00:23:47.000 It's not lost on me if you think that we are sending the message to Vladimir Putin that he can simply invade and win.
00:23:54.000 That's not the reality of the threat, and that is not the message that is being sent right now.
00:23:59.000 Key fact here, number two, this war...
00:24:03.000 Has been a stalemate for a very long time outside of the lives lost.
00:24:07.000 So first of all, NATO membership was a non-starter, right?
00:24:12.000 For Putin, who said this last year, we were talking about Ukraine.
00:24:14.000 He said, if there is no neutrality, it is difficult to imagine the existence of any good neighborly relations between Russia and Ukraine.
00:24:20.000 If you don't remember, Biden met, I believe it was Zelensky, talked about perhaps NATO, those rumors went, and then, boom, it popped off.
00:24:28.000 This has always been a sore spot.
00:24:30.000 And it's been an agreement.
00:24:32.000 With Russia. 0.96
00:24:33.000 Right?
00:24:34.000 Ukraine.
00:24:34.000 NATO. They're not supposed to join NATO. I know people now say, oh, that was never going to happen.
00:24:38.000 Yeah, but you discussed it.
00:24:40.000 And you demanded it.
00:24:41.000 So, this war has been a stalemate.
00:24:44.000 Let's look right now at the lines of control.
00:24:46.000 Okay, here's a map for you.
00:24:47.000 Alright?
00:24:48.000 See that?
00:24:48.000 That's where we are.
00:24:49.000 Okay.
00:24:50.000 Now, let's look at the lines of control exactly two years ago.
00:24:56.000 How many more years do you need?
00:25:00.000 Jeez.
00:25:01.000 Think about that.
00:25:02.000 That's unbelievable.
00:25:02.000 Those aren't the same picture.
00:25:04.000 Exactly.
00:25:05.000 There's a little bit more territory up north, but...
00:25:07.000 That's two years.
00:25:09.000 The casualties, and they're very, very hard to get an accurate number.
00:25:13.000 We provide the references, links in the description.
00:25:15.000 So we've tried to use more left-leaning sources in case people want to accuse us of bias.
00:25:19.000 Depends where you're getting them.
00:25:21.000 In Ukraine, 400,000 plus dead or wounded.
00:25:25.000 Russia, 600,000 plus dead or wounded.
00:25:27.000 It's one of those give or take...
00:25:29.000 Half a million, depending on the numbers that you use.
00:25:32.000 Pluses could be much, much higher.
00:25:34.000 Could be much higher.
00:25:35.000 Most of the numbers include severe injuries, along with deaths and casualties.
00:25:40.000 The point is, you're in the seven figures, and the lines of control are the exact same.
00:25:45.000 They're the exact same, it's just more money, not to mention the billions of dollars missing.
00:25:50.000 At what point do you say, okay, this is a war that doesn't make sense?
00:25:57.000 It's a big war that doesn't make sense.
00:25:58.000 Right.
00:25:59.000 Like, people want to compare this war to our war in Afghanistan or Iraq, but those numbers are nowhere near the same.
00:26:04.000 Not even close.
00:26:05.000 Not even close.
00:26:05.000 I mean, I think it was Operation Endury Freedom, I think it was a total of like 32 or 35,000 total wounded and dead.
00:26:12.000 It was like 3,500 dead, maybe.
00:26:14.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 And then, you know, 35 total.
00:26:17.000 Compared to that, and that's 20 years?
00:26:20.000 Yeah.
00:26:20.000 What do you think is going to happen if this goes on for 20 more years?
00:26:22.000 No, exactly.
00:26:23.000 You're going to run out of people.
00:26:24.000 So the alternative right now is to continue the funding to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:26:28.000 You think in three years, in four years, in five years, you think that the lines of control are going to change?
00:26:33.000 Let's fund it. 0.65
00:26:34.000 Billions of more dollars, millions of more people.
00:26:37.000 They'll just end up dying, and you'll end up with the same net result.
00:26:40.000 That is the most likely scenario.
00:26:42.000 That was pretty much the foregone conclusion at the start of this war.
00:26:46.000 It doesn't mean that invading Ukraine...
00:26:48.000 Was right.
00:26:49.000 No one is saying that.
00:26:50.000 Of course.
00:26:51.000 We are living in reality at this point, and we have another problem that I think has been highlighted by this war, and I would argue, as Americans, should concern us most, but that's me, Mr. Selfish American, is that we have now seen that Europe is woefully inequipped.
00:27:07.000 Inequipped.
00:27:09.000 You don't want to stare directly at the sun.
00:27:10.000 Did we do that?
00:27:10.000 No, you don't need to admonish me.
00:27:12.000 Aw.
00:27:13.000 Fine.
00:27:13.000 Give me one.
00:27:17.000 Admonish.
00:27:21.000 Yeah, let that thunder roll.
00:27:23.000 That Europe is woefully ill-equipped.
00:27:26.000 It's because the word woefully was before.
00:27:27.000 It's hard to say.
00:27:29.000 And this includes this whole NATO... All of this, they can't deal with their own problems. 1.00
00:27:35.000 They can't deal with their own crap. 0.96
00:27:37.000 It is a given that the United States will be the never-ending supply of funding so long as we are virtue-signaled, brow-beaten into submission on behalf of interests that are not aligned with our own. 0.99
00:27:53.000 I think the most important point that can be made at this point, you can comment below if you disagree, is to tell Europe, hey, hey, Start removing the entitlement phallus from your asses and start taking care of your own countries. 0.66
00:28:09.000 It's not our job to step in. 0.97
00:28:13.000 And I say this to someone who lived in Canada.
00:28:16.000 American military.
00:28:17.000 Okay, let me change one thing.
00:28:18.000 Defend your own border.
00:28:19.000 Go! 0.95
00:28:20.000 How about France send somebody to Mexico to take care of the cartels?
00:28:23.000 Right, exactly.
00:28:24.000 Go for it, guys.
00:28:25.000 And we have an opportunity right now because they are in a little bit of the hot seat.
00:28:28.000 And you know what?
00:28:28.000 They should be.
00:28:29.000 It's like, hey, enjoy your hot seat.
00:28:30.000 Maybe you should clean this up at this point.
00:28:33.000 Start with just paying your fair share, NATO nations.
00:28:36.000 Not even close, with the exception of one.
00:28:38.000 We'll get to that.
00:28:39.000 So yesterday, former Fox Sunday morning host, now Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, said that Europe was going to have to do just that.
00:28:48.000 Any security guarantee must be backed by capable European and non-European troops. 0.81
00:28:55.000 We ask each of your countries to step up on fulfilling the commitments.
00:28:59.000 That you have made.
00:29:01.000 And we challenge your countries and your citizens to double down and recommit yourselves not only to Ukraine's immediate security needs but to Europe's long-term defense and deterrence goals.
00:29:16.000 It's your yard.
00:29:18.000 Keep your dog in it.
00:29:19.000 Vice President J.D. Vance said pretty much the same thing during the campaign.
00:29:24.000 The second biggest criticism I make about the war in Ukraine And our approach to it is that we are subsidizing the Europeans to do nothing. 0.60
00:29:32.000 The Europeans are not carrying their fair share of the burden, especially when it comes in provision of weapons, and they're de-industrializing their own country at the same time that they say that Putin must be defeated at all costs.
00:29:46.000 Side note, isn't it cool to see men again?
00:29:48.000 Yeah.
00:29:49.000 Hey, Seth Vance, comment below.
00:29:51.000 If the little wins, right?
00:29:52.000 You have to enjoy the small victories.
00:29:54.000 Actual men. 0.60
00:29:56.000 American, man.
00:29:57.000 I like seeing headsets with the American flag pocket square.
00:29:59.000 Yeah.
00:30:00.000 Love that.
00:30:00.000 Straight out of central casting.
00:30:01.000 Love that.
00:30:02.000 I hope he drinks a little more.
00:30:03.000 Look more manly.
00:30:04.000 He said he wouldn't.
00:30:05.000 Well, I mean, can we just focus in on your...
00:30:08.000 This has been going on for literally centuries, but let's just focus on over the last hundred years this has been going on.
00:30:14.000 This exact same battle over this exact same piece of land with the exact same participants doing this.
00:30:20.000 And Europe has just basically been sitting on their thumbs the entire time.
00:30:23.000 Right.
00:30:24.000 It's not like this is a new problem that they're like, oh no, this came out of nowhere.
00:30:27.000 This has been going on for a very long time at different levels.
00:30:30.000 Everything you just said is correct.
00:30:32.000 But what gets me viscerally angry is being raised in Canada where they would badmouth the United States, say, ah, you guys are just a bunch of gun-toting yahoos. 1.00
00:30:41.000 And in Europe, if you have an American passport, oh, you Americans are so blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.89
00:30:45.000 You know what? 0.95
00:30:46.000 First off, we don't like you.
00:30:47.000 That's why we left. 1.00
00:30:48.000 Second, you get all this free shit, even though you live in small IKEA apartments, they have to have a combo washer-dryer unit that always leaves your clothes damp. 0.99
00:30:56.000 Because you can't afford real estate. 0.99
00:30:58.000 The United States spends twice as much on defense as all of Europe.
00:31:04.000 And Europe has over 100 million more people than the United States. 0.99
00:31:09.000 Shut up! 1.00
00:31:10.000 This is one of the greatest tricks that has ever... 1.00
00:31:14.000 Holy crap on the left. 0.98
00:31:16.000 It's one of the greatest gotchas. 0.98
00:31:19.000 Tricks that's been pulled on a people ever.
00:31:23.000 The fact...
00:31:24.000 That you have Americans out there thinking it's our duty to fund Ukraine when you get NATO right there!
00:31:33.000 We're the only ones expected to fix it.
00:31:35.000 We're the only ones expected to save people.
00:31:36.000 And we're the only ones who are expected to take blame and accept fault.
00:31:41.000 No!
00:31:42.000 How about that?
00:31:43.000 Only Poland. 0.72
00:31:44.000 And God love...
00:31:46.000 The Polacks. 1.00
00:31:46.000 They contribute a higher share of their GDP to defense the United States. 1.00
00:31:50.000 They're like 3.9 or 3.4.
00:31:53.000 And again, that's because Poland doesn't want Putin to march on in through there, which seems highly unlikely at this point.
00:32:01.000 I'm not concerned about it.
00:32:03.000 I think Poland can also help handle themselves if you see what Ukraine has done.
00:32:07.000 And the good news is NATO would actually have a responsibility to help Poland.
00:32:12.000 But all of this was predicated.
00:32:14.000 What about Poland?
00:32:15.000 I don't know.
00:32:16.000 Isn't that your job?
00:32:17.000 Right.
00:32:18.000 But by the way, with Poland, they're not just sitting back saying NATO will come to our defense either.
00:32:22.000 No.
00:32:22.000 They're actually preparing to defend themselves, and that's exactly what we want every country over there to do.
00:32:28.000 To some degree, it is your land.
00:32:30.000 If you can keep it has been the historical mantra.
00:32:34.000 Right.
00:32:34.000 Forever.
00:32:35.000 It's almost like erasing history doesn't work.
00:32:37.000 They're actually learning from it.
00:32:39.000 And Poland, by the way, they've been browbeaten on the international stage. 0.99
00:32:42.000 Like, we're going to kick out Muslims. 1.00
00:32:45.000 The UN's like, no! 0.99
00:32:47.000 We're like, yes, yes.
00:32:49.000 And it's not just...
00:32:50.000 And by the way, it's not just the military.
00:32:56.000 Right?
00:32:56.000 We're expected to foot the bill militarily for the entire world.
00:32:59.000 Okay, great.
00:32:59.000 The United States.
00:33:00.000 Yay us, except you guys all act like we're a bunch of pricks. 0.56
00:33:02.000 Okay, fine.
00:33:03.000 Europe spends a third less.
00:33:05.000 Yes, and by the way, when I say yes, Europe on R&D compared to the United States.
00:33:10.000 One country?
00:33:10.000 And Japan.
00:33:11.000 Yeah.
00:33:11.000 All of Europe.
00:33:13.000 All the whole thing.
00:33:14.000 All of Europe.
00:33:15.000 And for all of the arrogance that you hear, and when you also hear this from American Democrats saying we should be more like Europe, you know, these leisure societies who have...
00:33:25.000 Given the world nothing for the last several centuries, you go, well, hold on a second, they're not spending anything on military compared to us.
00:33:31.000 They're not spending anything on R&D, and that includes technology, that includes pharmaceuticals, you know, life-saving tools that are created.
00:33:38.000 Well, then you look at the entitlements as a percentage of the GDP. France, 32%.
00:33:44.000 Austria, 29%.
00:33:46.000 Italy, 28.9%.
00:33:48.000 Germany, 28.8%.
00:33:50.000 Denmark, 26.9%.
00:33:52.000 We still have way too much at 23, but it's significantly lower, and South Korea said, hold my beer out with 12.2%.
00:34:00.000 Which brings me, by the way, at this point in time, no apologies to a deal I would take tomorrow.
00:34:12.000 So since all of this has transpired, Canadians... 0.99
00:34:16.000 Euro trash. 1.00
00:34:17.000 They're all over X and social media saying that because of this, we should kick the United States out of NATO. Here's Mariska then Ellen. 0.98
00:34:27.000 Ukraine in NATO makes more sense than the Americans in NATO. Just kick the Americans out. 0.98
00:34:32.000 Ukrainians actually defend Europe. 0.92
00:34:35.000 Alan Fryer, I assume, is, I don't know, I assume a Brit.
00:34:37.000 Never thought I'd say this, but both NATO and the G7 should reconsider continued U.S. membership.
00:34:43.000 Fellow Rakhtar. 1.00
00:34:46.000 Just want to remind everyone, Ukraine's land, Ukraine's choice, the U.S. is not the center of the universe. 0.74
00:34:51.000 They are free to make shitty choices. 0.95
00:34:52.000 They are free to make shitty recommendations. 0.99
00:34:54.000 But Europe and Ukraine are also free to tell the U.S. to go and F itself. 0.95
00:35:00.000 Okay.
00:35:00.000 All right.
00:35:02.000 We're free to make crappy choices?
00:35:04.000 We're not the center of the universe?
00:35:06.000 You know what?
00:35:07.000 I'll take your word for it.
00:35:09.000 We shouldn't be the center of the universe.
00:35:10.000 Namely, shouldn't be the center of your universe.
00:35:13.000 Largely because yours is shittier, ours is better.
00:35:16.000 So you don't want us here because you don't want us to pull funding?
00:35:20.000 How about this?
00:35:21.000 Going forward, we will offer no funding.
00:35:23.000 You want us out of NATO?
00:35:24.000 That is a deal that I would take tomorrow.
00:35:28.000 I'm pissed now!
00:35:34.000 Now!
00:35:34.000 Hey, Europe, thanks for the renaissance.
00:35:36.000 Now kick rocks.
00:35:38.000 Just think of the arrogance.
00:35:40.000 I know.
00:35:40.000 It's like, okay, where's your soapbox?
00:35:44.000 Is it medical innovations?
00:35:46.000 No.
00:35:47.000 Is it medicine?
00:35:48.000 No.
00:35:48.000 Technology?
00:35:49.000 No.
00:35:51.000 Military?
00:35:51.000 No.
00:35:52.000 Winning any wars in the last couple of centuries?
00:35:54.000 No.
00:35:55.000 That war would have been over a long time ago without us.
00:35:57.000 Oh, yeah.
00:35:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:35:59.000 Absolutely.
00:35:59.000 Oh, yeah, you're right.
00:36:00.000 We could have helped out.
00:36:01.000 We could have ended this war two years ago by not sending any weapons and letting that whole country become Russia. 0.98
00:36:06.000 Yep.
00:36:07.000 And then put it right on NATO's border. 0.73
00:36:09.000 Piss off.
00:36:10.000 Probably would have resulted in far fewer lives lost because it would have been quite swift.
00:36:13.000 Not saying it's a good thing.
00:36:15.000 It's just you don't get to demand our money and then Shermanize as to how we give it to you.
00:36:22.000 Key point here, number three, when you listen to Mr. Bolton with the...
00:36:27.000 Rocky, bullwinkle, halftime mustache.
00:36:32.000 He was saying, what kind of a message is this sending to...
00:36:37.000 You can go back in time when this war started, where we talked about...
00:36:42.000 The unholy alliance that could take place between Russia and China, because they weren't good bedfellows, and if they do cozy up, that could be bad. 0.79
00:36:48.000 And we talked about how we needed to be ready for the Pacific theater, not because we value Taiwan more than the United States, but because we actually have our own self-interest at stake. 0.97
00:36:59.000 And if you understand the worldview, the ism from this government, of course you would know that Bolton is full of crap, because Secretary Hegseth said on Sunday, I believe it was, I don't know when he said it. 0.90
00:37:12.000 He was a Sunday morning host, but I think he said it this week. 0.97
00:37:13.000 I get confused.
00:37:15.000 He discussed, specifically, hey, hey, hey, I just want to be clear.
00:37:19.000 Ukraine is not Asia. 0.92
00:37:20.000 Asia is our priority.
00:37:23.000 The United States faces consequential threats to our homeland.
00:37:27.000 We must, and we are, focusing on security of our own borders.
00:37:32.000 We also face a peer competitor in the communist Chinese with the capability and intent to threaten our homeland. 1.00
00:37:39.000 And core national interests in the Indo-Pacific.
00:37:42.000 The U.S. is prioritizing deterring war with China in the Pacific, recognizing the reality of scarcity, and making the resourcing trade-offs to ensure deterrence does not fail.
00:37:56.000 Ah, hold on a second.
00:37:58.000 There it is again, treating the government like a business!
00:38:04.000 Not a never-ending supply of funding, unlike how NATO considers it, how they view it, unlike how the Democrats view it.
00:38:12.000 It's just more money, more money, more money, more money equals good.
00:38:15.000 So when people like Bolton, those absolute retards, when they say, yeah, this is actually sending a message to Taiwan that we're not going to help them, you don't live in the real world in understanding supply, understanding demand, understanding scarcity. 0.61
00:38:31.000 The United States defense industry, our industrial base here, cannot support war in both theaters in Ukraine.
00:38:39.000 Russia and in the Pacific.
00:38:41.000 A lot of the weapons that would be needed in Taiwan have been sent to Ukraine, meaning it cannot be sent to Taiwan.
00:38:48.000 So HIMARS, ATACMS, or is it A-T-A? It's hard to say.
00:38:54.000 ATACMS. ATACMS. 15mm shells.
00:38:56.000 These are all the kinds of supplies that Taiwan would need and instead are being sent to a different theater of war where the control lines haven't changed at all.
00:39:06.000 By the way, it's 155mm shells.
00:39:09.000 15mm.
00:39:09.000 What did I say?
00:39:10.000 15?
00:39:10.000 No, 155. 155, Mike.
00:39:12.000 Those are big.
00:39:13.000 I was thinking of my bathroom mirror.
00:39:17.000 Not me! 0.71
00:39:17.000 Again, I don't need to get bragged with a frickin' admonish. 0.71
00:39:21.000 155mm shells, obviously. 0.94
00:39:24.000 Son of a gun!
00:39:25.000 I don't even know what a 15mm shell would look like. 0.65
00:39:28.000 It's not a shell.
00:39:29.000 It's not a shell.
00:39:30.000 It's like a...
00:39:31.000 I mean, still, it would be like, you know, it would be a big handgun round, right?
00:39:36.000 It's the one you bought from Temu.
00:39:38.000 Like a mortar.
00:39:39.000 That's all you got?
00:39:40.000 The little game.
00:39:41.000 Mine that's ten times bigger.
00:39:44.000 So, and by the way, the CSIS of the War Games, they've run some scenarios here.
00:39:50.000 The United States would run out of...
00:39:52.000 Quite a few critical munitions within one week in a fight with China.
00:39:56.000 Well.
00:39:57.000 Based on what we have right now. 0.99
00:39:58.000 That sucks. 0.97
00:39:59.000 So anyone telling you that this is simply enabling a tyrant and that this is buddying up with Russia, this is really what it comes down to. 0.99
00:40:07.000 What's the alternative?
00:40:09.000 We know what NATO's is.
00:40:11.000 We know what Ukraine's would be. 1.00
00:40:12.000 More money, more money, more money.
00:40:14.000 How does that fix it?
00:40:15.000 And you know what?
00:40:16.000 I'd issue that challenge too.
00:40:17.000 That same solution for all of our problems.
00:40:19.000 Department of Education, okay.
00:40:21.000 We think we need to reform it.
00:40:23.000 You say more money, more money, more money.
00:40:24.000 Okay.
00:40:25.000 Social Security, something needs to change.
00:40:27.000 You say more money, more money.
00:40:28.000 VA, something needs to change.
00:40:30.000 You say more money, more money.
00:40:31.000 What is the alternative at this moment in time?
00:40:35.000 February 13th, 2025. Can anyone give me an answer beyond more money?
00:40:41.000 Because mine is no money, and Europe needs to stop being an entire... 0.75
00:40:46.000 We ain't talking cigarettes.
00:40:53.000 YouTube dump, I don't care.
00:40:55.000 No, absolutely.
00:40:56.000 You shouldn't care.
00:40:56.000 We have an article from 24 plus years ago saying that they needed to start funding more.
00:41:01.000 There's some problems in your neighborhood.
00:41:03.000 You guys need NATO countries.
00:41:04.000 Start spending more on military.
00:41:05.000 You can go back even further than that.
00:41:07.000 So Europe has known about this problem for a very long time.
00:41:09.000 And by the way, let's go back to the two previous administrations or three ago.
00:41:13.000 Obama, 2014, Crimea.
00:41:15.000 You guys want to make sure that Russia doesn't feel emboldened and that they can step outside the box a little bit?
00:41:21.000 Don't let them take Crimea.
00:41:22.000 If that really is the red line that you say it is now, why weren't you sending troops in 2014 to make sure that he couldn't keep Crimea going?
00:41:31.000 And you would push him out completely and put troops all along the border.
00:41:35.000 No, you wanted the United States to act. 0.53
00:41:38.000 You wanted the United States to fund it and to send our troops because you guys are a bunch of pansies. 0.98
00:41:42.000 I think we are busy in Syria. 0.99
00:41:43.000 Step up or shut up.
00:41:44.000 We're busy everywhere because everyone's like, oh, world police. 0.99
00:41:49.000 I'm done with it.
00:41:50.000 You ever been in an argument with someone who forgets the entire lead-up to where you say something that is maybe off-color?
00:41:55.000 It's like, well, hold on a second. 1.00
00:41:56.000 You're forgetting the part where you asked us to come in, you little shit! 1.00
00:42:01.000 You're forgetting the part where you had your hands out. 1.00
00:42:03.000 You said that we would be history's greatest moral failure if we didn't step in.
00:42:10.000 For crying out loud, it's all the time.
00:42:13.000 Okay, okay, you don't want us to meddle?
00:42:15.000 Hey, you're not asking for money in Africa, right?
00:42:18.000 Oh, that's right.
00:42:19.000 You're furious about that, too, if we don't spend $500 million.
00:42:23.000 Oh, okay, I'm sorry, that's right.
00:42:25.000 I'm done with it.
00:42:26.000 The policy, and you're seeing it from this administration, is, hey, guess what?
00:42:30.000 No money.
00:42:31.000 You come to us, treat it like International Shark Tank.
00:42:35.000 Give us a pitch.
00:42:36.000 The answer's still probably no, but give it your best shot.
00:42:39.000 They're acting like a teenage girl gets drunk at a house party, calls her dad to save her, and then he gets there, puts his arm around her, she goes, no, don't.
00:42:45.000 Not in front of my friends.
00:42:46.000 That's creepy, but yes.
00:42:49.000 That's an oddly specific reference.
00:42:51.000 It's oddly specific if that's the first place you would go.
00:42:53.000 I believe right now...
00:42:54.000 We do have this entire segment on lawfare.
00:42:57.000 Do we want to go?
00:42:58.000 Hank Seth is answering questions at a NATO summit.
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00:43:07.000 You've already heard about that at the front of the show.
00:43:09.000 Also of NATO.
00:43:21.000 Look forward to working very closely with him and his team.
00:43:25.000 Thank you.
00:43:26.000 And before we're talking about what we've done at the ministerial, I want to reaffirm a few things from this podium.
00:43:31.000 First, as we see it, NATO's strategic objectives are to prevent great power conflict in Europe, deter nuclear and non-nuclear aggression, and defeat threats.
00:43:46.000 To treaty allies should deterrence fail.
00:43:51.000 Second, the US is committed to building a stronger, more lethal NATO. However, we must ensure that European and Canadian commitment to Article 3 of this treaty is just as strong.
00:44:05.000 Article 3 says that allies, and I quote, by means of continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid, We'll maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.
00:44:23.000 Leaders of our European allies should take primary responsibility for defense of the continent, which means security ownership by all allies, guided by a clear understanding of strategic realities, and it's an imperative given the strategic realities that we face.
00:44:42.000 And that begins with increasing defense spending.
00:44:48.000 2% is a start, as President Trump has said, but it's not enough.
00:44:53.000 Nor is 3%, nor is 4%, more like 5%.
00:44:59.000 Real investment, real urgency.
00:45:02.000 We can talk all we want about values.
00:45:05.000 A great deal of back payments in there is what he's saying.
00:45:08.000 But you can't shoot values.
00:45:12.000 You can't shoot flags, and you can't shoot strong speeches.
00:45:17.000 There is no replacement for hard power.
00:45:21.000 As much as we may not want to like the world we live in in some cases, there's nothing like hard power.
00:45:28.000 It should be obvious that increasing allied European defense spending is critical, as the President of the United States has said.
00:45:38.000 Also critical is expanding our defense industrial-based capacity on both sides of the Atlantic.
00:45:44.000 Our dollars, our euros, our pounds must become real capabilities.
00:45:50.000 All right, Defense Secretary Pete Hexel.
00:45:53.000 Oh, you don't want to do it.
00:45:55.000 Oh, you cut out. 1.00
00:45:56.000 Oh, what are you going to offer to this bitch? 1.00
00:45:58.000 All right, Defense Secretary. 1.00
00:45:59.000 What do you have to bring to the table?
00:46:01.000 The answer is nothing.
00:46:02.000 By the way, hold on.
00:46:02.000 I just want to see what he goes.
00:46:03.000 Our dollars, our pounds, and our, what did he say?
00:46:06.000 The euros.
00:46:06.000 And I love how he left out Canada's silly money because he did isolate Canada a minute ago.
00:46:12.000 He's like, basically everybody in Europe and Canada has to make sure they do it, but then he didn't list their silly currency. 0.86
00:46:17.000 Looney Toonies.
00:46:18.000 Do we want to try and go to some other place that's covering it, or do we want to move on to the...
00:46:24.000 Trump executive orders segment.
00:46:26.000 Let's move on to this and we'll get some highlights for that.
00:46:28.000 But I think what you saw basically right there was like, do your part.
00:46:32.000 It's your house.
00:46:33.000 Exactly what you were saying is what he just said to everybody in NATO. And that has not happened in a long time.
00:46:40.000 Nope.
00:46:40.000 Even when Trump was in the White House the first time, he was very hard on them.
00:46:43.000 But we didn't have speeches coming from a guy like that.
00:46:46.000 Like Josh said, that's when you have an infantryman in sec def position.
00:46:49.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:46:50.000 Somebody who knows what he's talking about.
00:46:51.000 The whole time that they were doing his hearings and he was nominated for it, that's what they did.
00:46:55.000 They called him a Fox host.
00:46:56.000 We jokingly said it earlier, former Fox host.
00:46:59.000 You know, like we say, former Vice President Biden and all that.
00:47:01.000 But the truth is, he's a former infantry major.
00:47:04.000 Yeah.
00:47:05.000 I saw somebody go, oh, here's the difference between our last Secretary of Defense and this Secretary of Defense.
00:47:10.000 One is a four-star general and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:12.000 And one is just some guy who was in the Army.
00:47:14.000 No, he wasn't just some guy in the Army.
00:47:15.000 He was a major.
00:47:16.000 Yeah.
00:47:17.000 He was an 0-4.
00:47:18.000 He was an infantryman.
00:47:19.000 He went on three deployments, I think.
00:47:21.000 Maybe more?
00:47:21.000 At least three deployments.
00:47:23.000 He led men into battle.
00:47:24.000 That's who you want to tell in that speech.
00:47:26.000 To all those suits in the room, like, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:47:30.000 Well, there's a big difference, too.
00:47:30.000 There's a different class of general when you look at people like MacArthur or Patton and you look at some of the generals there at the Pentagon who haven't seen combat this century.
00:47:38.000 This is a guy, whether you're a general or not...
00:47:40.000 Today, a guy like him has actually gone into combat, armed this century, and has also been in a position of authority.
00:47:46.000 Someone who's been in a position of authority but only pushed a pen for the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years may find themselves a little bit out of touch.
00:47:53.000 That's not exclusive to the military.
00:47:55.000 This is, and again, this is a change in tone, and I can't see how the left could be upset.
00:48:03.000 You cannot, please, someone out there who is a Ukraine supporter, okay?
00:48:09.000 Comment.
00:48:10.000 How could you possibly be supportive of Ukraine and at the same time be upset with what Hegseth just said?
00:48:18.000 You can't be supportive of Ukraine and not expect Europe to take care of its own stuff.
00:48:24.000 Look, we just want more effort.
00:48:26.000 That's all.
00:48:28.000 We'll provide some help, but hey, if you guys really want to be serious about this fight, maybe you guys bring some knives.
00:48:33.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:48:34.000 Actually, I think we're going to go ahead and find Hegseth.
00:48:36.000 They said that actually they'd like to stay with it.
00:48:38.000 They think that'll be better, and I think we're hearing that from Chad as well.
00:48:41.000 So we'll do that.
00:48:41.000 We'll stay, and we'll do this segment next week on...
00:48:44.000 Oh, but we had President Trump and Judge Dredd for a debate.
00:48:49.000 They'll reschedule for us.
00:48:51.000 Don't you worry.
00:48:52.000 I don't know.
00:48:53.000 The sitting president will reschedule for us.
00:48:55.000 No, no, no.
00:48:56.000 He's not busy.
00:48:57.000 He's nice like that.
00:48:57.000 We were very much looking forward to President Trump versus Judge Dredd.
00:49:00.000 Let's be honest.
00:49:01.000 Yeah, it was going to be great.
00:49:02.000 It was a lot of work, but we still can do it.
00:49:04.000 Yes, we just have to, you know, find Mr. Hegseth.
00:49:08.000 Oh, I thought they had found him.
00:49:09.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:10.000 We're working on it right now.
00:49:10.000 I'm seeing them going through the TV. Yeah, it's Ella Enchanted.
00:49:13.000 I can bring it up on the overlay machine for now if we want.
00:49:17.000 All right, let's do that.
00:49:18.000 Okay, bring it up on the overlay machine until we get it on the real thing.
00:49:20.000 The United States shouldn't otherwise make.
00:49:22.000 I just reject that at its face.
00:49:25.000 There's a reason why negotiations are happening right now.
00:49:30.000 Just a few weeks after President Trump was sworn in as President of the United States.
00:49:34.000 Vladimir Putin responds to strength.
00:49:37.000 In 2014, he invaded Crimea, not during the presidency of Donald Trump.
00:49:43.000 Over four years, there was no Russian aggression from 2016 to 2020. In 2022, Vladimir Putin took aggression on Ukraine.
00:49:53.000 Once again, not while President Trump was president of the United States.
00:49:58.000 So any suggestion that President Trump is doing anything other than negotiating from a position of strength...
00:50:06.000 is on its face ahistorical and false.
00:50:09.000 So when you look at what he may have to give or take, what's in or what's out in those negotiations, we have the perfect dealmaker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both Vladimir Putin and Zelensky.
00:50:23.000 No one's going to get everything that they want.
00:50:26.000 Understanding who committed the aggression in the first place.
00:50:29.000 But I challenge anyone else to think of a world leader at this moment who, with credibility and strength, could bring those two leaders to the table and forge a durable peace that ultimately serves the interests of Ukraine, stops the killing and the death, which President Trump has been clear he wants to do, and hopefully ultimately is guaranteed by strength of Europeans who are there prepared to back it up.
00:51:02.000 Why not invoke Article 5, then, for the NATO peacekeeping forces that could potentially be deployed?
00:51:08.000 Like, how does that deter President Putin?
00:51:10.000 Well, I would say, I want to be clear about something as it pertains to NATO membership not being a realistic outcome for negotiations.
00:51:18.000 That's something that was stated as part of my remarks here, as part of a coordination with how we're executing...
00:51:23.000 Okay, we're going to the...
00:51:25.000 These ongoing negotiations, which are a laying realistic outcome for negotiations.
00:51:29.000 That's something that was stated as part of my remarks here, as part of a coordination with how we're executing these ongoing negotiations, which are led by President Trump.
00:51:39.000 All of that said, these negotiations are led by President Trump.
00:51:44.000 Everything is on the table in his conversations with Vladimir Putin and Zelensky.
00:51:50.000 What he decides to allow or not allow is at the purview of the leader of the free world, of President Trump.
00:51:56.000 So I'm not going to stand at this podium and declare what President Trump will do or won't do.
00:52:02.000 What will be in or what will be out.
00:52:04.000 What concessions will be made or what concessions are not made.
00:52:07.000 I can look as our team has what's realistic, likely on an outcome.
00:52:13.000 I think realism is an important part of the conversation that hasn't existed enough inside conversations amongst friends.
00:52:20.000 But simply pointing out realism, like the borders won't be rolled back to what everybody would like them to be in 2014, is not a concession to Vladimir Putin.
00:52:29.000 It's a recognition of the hard power realities on the ground, after a lot of investment and sacrifice, first by the Ukrainians and then by allies.
00:52:38.000 And then a realization that a negotiated peace is going to be some sort of demarcation that neither side wants.
00:52:46.000 But it's not my job as the Secretary of Defense to define the parameters of the President of the United States as he leads some of the most complex and consequential negotiations.
00:52:56.000 Is that deploying troops, NATO troops?
00:52:58.000 Is that what she meant?
00:52:59.000 We were switching the feed at that point, so I don't remember.
00:53:06.000 Look how they put Zelensky next to this guy.
00:53:08.000 Given the position you've now staked out, what leverage exactly is Ukraine being left with, especially if the U.S. also plans to wind down its military aid?
00:53:17.000 And then quickly, if a NATO ally is attacked by Russia or any country, will the U.S. unequivocally uphold its obligations under Article 5, regardless of that country's...
00:53:26.000 How about the rest of NATO?...to the alliance, and that's part of the alliance, right?
00:53:29.000 You point out Article 5, you point out Article 3. It's just a cheap...
00:53:34.000 I'm not saying it's cheap coming from you.
00:53:36.000 Mr. Ben Schwartz?
00:53:37.000 But it's just a cheap political point to say, oh, we've left all the negotiating cards off the table by recognizing some realities that exist on the ground.
00:53:48.000 President Zelensky understands the realities on the ground.
00:53:51.000 President Putin understands the realities on the ground.
00:53:54.000 And President Trump, as a dealmaker, as a negotiator, understands those dynamics as well.
00:53:59.000 By no means is anything that I state here, even though we lead the most powerful military in the world, hemming in the commander-in-chief in his negotiations to ultimately decide where it goes or does not go.
00:54:10.000 No more kowtowing.
00:54:12.000 When Barack Obama was bowing to foreign leaders, this guy's going...
00:54:16.000 Measure it!
00:54:21.000 It's huge.
00:54:22.000 Also, by the way, good combo with the cordovan brown shoes and the blue suit.
00:54:27.000 Looks sharp.
00:54:29.000 I don't understand what they're saying, that we've pushed out Ukraine in the negotiations.
00:54:33.000 No, we haven't.
00:54:34.000 We're talking with both parties right now to say, like, hey, you guys need to go to the table.
00:54:38.000 Yeah.
00:54:41.000 And I can't stand Putin.
00:54:44.000 No.
00:54:45.000 But I really can't stand Zelensky, because Putin, you know, I was a scorpion when you met me, the old fable, the scorpion and the frog.
00:54:55.000 That's Putin. 1.00
00:54:56.000 Zelensky kissed Biden's ass and then immediately kissed Trump's ass. 1.00
00:55:00.000 We're really glad that it's Biden. 1.00
00:55:01.000 And then we're really glad that it's Trump.
00:55:03.000 That man has no consistency of principle ever. 0.70
00:55:07.000 At least you know that Putin is totalitarian.
00:55:11.000 We might have even though we have them.
00:55:14.000 There is something to relationships and deals in real ways whether militarily or economically or diplomatically that he sees that are possibilities that could forge together a lot of opportunities to show that solidarity that Vladimir Putin will clearly recognize.
00:55:32.000 Look at the difference in NATO Secretary General Mark Rood.
00:55:34.000 Any peace deal must be enduring and talks must involve Ukraine closely.
00:55:37.000 That kind of language versus what Hegseth is saying.
00:55:42.000 Hegseth is saying very clearly, here's the situation on the ground.
00:55:46.000 What we have to do is realize that that is not going away.
00:55:49.000 And he's like...
00:55:50.000 The other guy, we need an enduring peace.
00:55:52.000 It must involve them closely.
00:55:55.000 Like, he's very, like, ethereal.
00:55:56.000 Like, you can't pin them down on anything.
00:55:58.000 Of course you want it to be enduring.
00:55:59.000 What are you actually saying here?
00:56:01.000 Just by the way, you know what also?
00:56:02.000 Again, like I said earlier, I was kind of joking, but Karine Jean-Pierre, okay? 0.95
00:56:06.000 Angry lesbian press secretary, Carolyn Levitt. 1.00
00:56:09.000 Yes. 0.99
00:56:09.000 Feminine. 0.99
00:56:10.000 And look what Secretary of Defense, you have a man who was in the military in a position speaking. 0.98
00:56:15.000 Hey, this is toxic masculinity, a man who speaks with authority and takes no bullcrap.
00:56:21.000 Isn't it wonderful to be back to the...
00:56:23.000 You guys thought that recognizing there are only two genders was just a culture war?
00:56:28.000 Nope.
00:56:28.000 It's the framework of our society.
00:56:30.000 You want to send that guy out there, not the pansies who we had working in the last administration. 1.00
00:56:36.000 And the same goes for quite fetching press secretaries. 1.00
00:56:39.000 Well, to the first part of your question, that's not ultimately my decision.
00:56:43.000 The President will lead these negotiations alongside our Secretary of State, our National Security Advisor, and numerous other officials that will be involved.
00:56:52.000 And ultimately, we've played our role in talking to our NATO allies about what that would look like.
00:56:58.000 President Trump, I want to point out, I've got the truths right here that he posted, called both, in case we missed it, Vladimir Putin and President Zelensky.
00:57:09.000 Called them both.
00:57:11.000 Any negotiation that's had will be had with both.
00:57:15.000 I also am very encouraged by what the Secretary General has said here.
00:57:20.000 Clearly attuned to the realities of the moment, the need for peace, and that the NATO Alliance and European members will play a role in that.
00:57:31.000 Ultimately...
00:57:32.000 A small role.
00:57:32.000 President Trump speaking to those two countries is central to the deal being made, but it affects a lot of people.
00:57:37.000 And you know what?
00:57:37.000 Just think about it.
00:57:38.000 The left doesn't want to solve problems.
00:57:40.000 This man wouldn't be there if Hirono had her way because she... 0.99
00:57:43.000 It could not be less relevant.
00:57:47.000 The guy likes two bourbons before he gets on a flight?
00:57:49.000 Hey, if this is him two bourbons deep, give him another one!
00:57:52.000 Yep.
00:57:52.000 What's your favorite bottle?
00:57:53.000 We'll send you one.
00:57:54.000 I don't understand what NATO has any say in this at all for.
00:57:59.000 It's not a NATO country.
00:58:00.000 Am I crazy here for thinking?
00:58:03.000 Am I being too simplistic to think that, you know, it's been two years of this war, you've tried your best to be, I don't know, whatever kind of arbitrator you think you are?
00:58:11.000 Yeah.
00:58:11.000 What business do you have here?
00:58:13.000 I mean, he's saying it, obviously.
00:58:15.000 Well, NATO is basically using us as the proxy.
00:58:17.000 In other words, like, well, technically we can't, but they're concerned about if Ukraine gets marched over, right?
00:58:20.000 So they're concerned about it.
00:58:22.000 Well, thanks to us, it hasn't been.
00:58:23.000 Yeah.
00:58:23.000 Yes.
00:58:24.000 So why don't you just sit down?
00:58:26.000 In your poor little chair there.
00:58:28.000 Sit on the ground, Indian style. 0.91
00:58:30.000 From our country, Indians from our country. 1.00
00:58:32.000 And then we'll handle the negotiations, little boy.
00:58:35.000 Yes, exactly.
00:58:36.000 We'll do the sit Indian style, but less meth. 0.97
00:58:39.000 Less.
00:58:41.000 Not no.
00:58:41.000 Some whiskey.
00:58:42.000 When you and President Trump speak about raising it to 5%, do you mean European allies only, or do you mean the U.S.? As well.
00:58:54.000 You guys only, until you catch up, you red-taped glasses bitch. 1.00
00:58:58.000 What are we at? 1.00
00:58:59.000 What are we giving?
00:58:59.000 3.9 or 3.8?
00:59:01.000 We were higher than 4 at one point.
00:59:03.000 I believe now it's like 3.3.
00:59:05.000 Does that include the $175 billion we sent to Ukraine?
00:59:08.000 Right.
00:59:09.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:59:09.000 That's a good point.
00:59:10.000 And many nations pay far, far less than 1%.
00:59:12.000 So they've got to get to 5. Then maybe we'll think about upping it.
00:59:16.000 Once you meet all your back payments, how about that?
00:59:19.000 Our 3.9 is also higher than all your 5s combined.
00:59:21.000 3.3, sorry.
00:59:22.000 3.3.
00:59:23.000 And just leave in place what is necessary for nuclear deterrence.
00:59:28.000 I know there's a revision going on.
00:59:29.000 I don't expect you to name any numbers, but maybe give us an outlook of what we should expect.
00:59:37.000 Thank you.
00:59:38.000 Thank you.
00:59:39.000 I think nobody can or should contest the extent of America's willingness to invest in national security.
00:59:47.000 We have a budget of $850 billion spent on defense.
00:59:53.000 I'm in the business of ensuring that every dollar of that is used wisely, which is why we're pushing a Pentagon audit and making sure that we're cut in fat so that we've got more at the tip of the spear.
01:00:06.000 3.4% is a very robust investment, larger than most of our allies within NATO. Any defense minister or secretary of defense that tells you they wouldn't want more would be lying to you.
01:00:21.000 I understand that.
01:00:23.000 Ultimately, we have our own...
01:00:25.000 Gosh, guys.
01:00:28.000 Commercial, what is...
01:00:29.000 We're supposed to pay for the premium thing.
01:00:31.000 Well, we had to watch on YouTube because it wasn't on the other servers we use.
01:00:36.000 Oh, really?
01:00:37.000 Yeah.
01:00:37.000 But YouTube is dead.
01:00:39.000 All right, good.
01:00:39.000 Go.
01:00:40.000 ...at the $900 billion that America has invested around the globe to include the NATO alliance and saying that's not enough.
01:00:47.000 So, ultimately, we are...
01:00:49.000 Very much committed to the NATO alliance and to our allies.
01:00:52.000 But without burden-sharing, without creating the right set of incentives for European countries to invest, then we would be forced to attempt to be everywhere for everybody all the time, which in a world of fiscal restraints is, again, to get back to that word reality, just not reality.
01:01:11.000 So, yes, we will continue to spend robustly our expectation of our friends, and we say this Let me ask you really quickly,
01:01:41.000 I'll just pop in here.
01:01:42.000 Does anyone here believe that this guy is anything other than Sharp?
01:01:47.000 He's a sharp guy.
01:01:47.000 Everyone here would agree whether you like him or not.
01:01:48.000 He's sharp.
01:01:49.000 Okay.
01:01:50.000 The reason the left uses the term that's reductive so often is because they hate distillation.
01:01:55.000 They hate effective communication that brings results.
01:01:58.000 Everything is nuanced.
01:02:00.000 Everything is gray.
01:02:01.000 This guy just gave you some historical context, just gave you current international context, and stuck the landing and said, the reality is you have to spend more on your...
01:02:10.000 Country.
01:02:11.000 And called him friends.
01:02:13.000 Yeah.
01:02:13.000 We expect more of our friends.
01:02:14.000 Exactly.
01:02:15.000 He made it so that, like, oh, you shouldn't be guilty.
01:02:18.000 You should feel guilty that you're not helping your friend.
01:02:20.000 It's very different from, yeah, we're always going to stand with our allies.
01:02:23.000 And we've been allies for a long time.
01:02:24.000 Reality is you guys got to spend more.
01:02:26.000 Start being better friends.
01:02:27.000 That's reductive.
01:02:28.000 Great.
01:02:29.000 Want to bet they're going to start spending more? 0.98
01:02:31.000 Shins of the communist Chinese are a threat to free people everywhere. 1.00
01:02:36.000 To include America's interests in the Pacific. 0.61
01:02:39.000 And it makes a lot of sense, just in a common sense way, to use our comparative advantages.
01:02:48.000 European countries spending here, in defense of this continent, in defense of allies here, against an aggressor on this continent with ambitions.
01:02:59.000 That strikes me as the right place to...
01:03:02.000 And I don't say that in a condescending way.
01:03:03.000 I say that in a common sense, practical way.
01:03:06.000 Investing in defense on the continent makes sense.
01:03:09.000 We support that as well.
01:03:11.000 It also makes sense comparatively and geographically for the United States, along with allies in the Pacific, like Japan and South Korea and the Philippines and Australia and others, to also invest in allies and partners and capabilities in the Pacific.
01:03:26.000 To project power there in service of deterrence.
01:03:29.000 I don't see any German ships in the Pacific.
01:03:31.000 That deterrent effect in the Pacific is one that really can only be led by the United States. 0.83
01:03:35.000 We wish we could lead everywhere at all times.
01:03:38.000 We will stand in solidarity with allies and partners and encourage everyone to invest in order to have forced multiplication of what we represent, but it requires realistic conversations.
01:03:51.000 Those with disingenuous motives in the media I don't mean to look at you.
01:03:56.000 I'm just saying anyone that suggests it's abandonment are trying to drive a wedge between allies that does not exist.
01:04:02.000 I love this guy.
01:04:02.000 We are committed to that NATO alliance.
01:04:04.000 We understand the importance of that partnership.
01:04:07.000 But it can't endure on the status quo forever in light of the threats we face and fiscal realities.
01:04:13.000 Europe has to spend more.
01:04:15.000 NATO has to spend more.
01:04:16.000 Has to invest more.
01:04:18.000 And we're very encouraged.
01:04:20.000 By what the Secretary General has said.
01:04:21.000 And frankly, behind closed doors, what a lot of our allies have said as well.
01:04:25.000 Acknowledging that reality.
01:04:26.000 And that's why when I say make NATO great again, it's what President Trump set out to do in 2017. The press said President Trump is abandoning NATO. He's turning his back on our NATO allies.
01:04:41.000 That's what the headlines read in 2017 and 2018. What actually happened?
01:04:47.000 That tough conversation created even more investment.
01:04:52.000 To the point where now almost every NATO country is meeting the 2% goal that was said to be egregious when he first said it.
01:04:59.000 Yep, absolutely.
01:05:00.000 There were many nations that were spending 0.6, 0.9, 1.2.
01:05:03.000 It wasn't even close.
01:05:04.000 You can search the archive and see our entire segment on that as it happened in 2017. Don't buy the lies.
01:05:11.000 We're going to continue with this, but I should let you know, too, if you are not a Rumble premium member, you're going to miss tomorrow.
01:05:16.000 Tomorrow, Gerald Morgan actually has a special, Mug Club Undercover, exposing... 0.96
01:05:22.000 Okay.
01:05:24.000 Exposing a proactive agenda in the church with the LGBTQ alliance.
01:05:30.000 I know, you thought this was a conspiracy.
01:05:31.000 Isn't it crazy now that you realize our tax dollars were literally trying to convince people to be gay? 0.76
01:05:38.000 That actually happened.
01:05:40.000 In Serbia?
01:05:41.000 You tell me how you get it. 1.00
01:05:43.000 Go try and be gay in Serbia, let alone be elected as a representative. 1.00
01:05:46.000 We now know. 1.00
01:05:46.000 We now know. 1.00
01:05:47.000 Thanks, Doge.
01:05:48.000 So you're going to be talking about that.
01:05:49.000 We have some exclusive undercover footage tomorrow at 10 Live.
01:05:51.000 Can we blast that tune again before we go?
01:05:53.000 Well, before, when you're done.
01:05:54.000 Okay, so continue, but before, no, not before we're done, because we actually, we're going to watch really quickly.
01:05:58.000 We're going to break from Exeth.
01:06:00.000 Continue, of course, on Chat Thursday, but actually, there's, we're going to present a review here as well.
01:06:07.000 The Madam President in this film, G20, played by Viola Davis. 0.98
01:06:11.000 Uh, she's, I guess, an action hero, and so I was told not to watch this because they wanted me to flip my shit live. 0.99
01:06:21.000 Madam President? 0.99