Louder with Crowder - I Want You to Leave My Country | Talking With People Immigration Edition

00:00:00.000 Americans, I will say this, and I'm half Canadian, don't like it when they hear you say, I'm Mexican.

00:00:05.000 Then we don't want people here who don't identify as American. 1.00

00:00:07.000 Is that fair?

00:00:08.000 It is fair.

00:00:09.000 Because you shouldn't be here if you're not American. 1.00

00:00:10.000 You left there for a reason.

00:00:12.000 Your culture wasn't working.

00:00:13.000 I mean, I'm not saying that your culture is bad, but the government's not working.

00:00:17.000 And if you start bringing those kind of elements back into the government, you're going to get the same thing you had where you came from.

00:00:23.000 Right.

00:00:24.000 At your house, do you wave the American flag?

00:00:26.000 Chinese flag.

00:00:27.000 Oh, we don't have any flags.

00:00:28.000 Get an American flag.

00:00:30.000 We expect that of immigrants here.

00:00:35.000 This week, I'm back in the streets of Dallas, Texas for the latest edition of Talking with People, in which I talk with people.

00:00:44.000 It's pretty self-explanatory.

00:00:46.000 It's just seeing what people think, gauging the temperature.

00:00:50.000 People who don't work in cable news or social media.

00:00:52.000 And this week, just like ICE, I was looking for some immigrants. 0.98

00:00:57.000 If you're going to have 21 million people and we have to get a lot of them out because they're criminals, we're going to have to act faster.

00:01:04.000 We can't.

00:01:04.000 Do you think we can give 21 million trials?

00:01:31.000 There are a lot of friends and they're falling.

00:01:32.000 I don't recommend crossing because there's a lot of... 0.93

00:01:35.000 Hey, where's your finger warrant?

00:01:37.000 Where's your warrant?

00:01:39.000 No, you! 1.00

00:01:40.000 Yeah, it's gonna be one floor above us. 1.00

00:01:42.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:01:43.000 What are you doing? 1.00

00:01:50.000 Luckily for me, I found some.

00:01:52.000 Legal ones.

00:01:53.000 I assume.

00:01:54.000 I didn't ask for their papers, but I did pick their brains on how they viewed President Trump's current deportation agenda.

00:02:01.000 Too hot?

00:02:02.000 Too cold?

00:02:04.000 Just right?

00:02:05.000 Is their perception, like many of us, shaped by media or their experiences?

00:02:08.000 And as immigrants themselves, with backgrounds ranging from Mexico to Cuba to China, they all have different points of view.

00:02:15.000 And you can choose whose perspective you line up with most.

00:02:18.000 Comment below.

00:02:19.000 At the end of all this, we decided that I think they can stay in the country.

00:02:25.000 Well, most of them.

00:02:29.000 This is talking with people.

00:02:32.000 What's your name, sir?

00:02:33.000 Chico.

00:02:34.000 Nice to meet you.

00:02:34.000 Chico?

00:02:35.000 Stephen, nice to meet you, Chico.

00:02:37.000 So you live around the area?

00:02:38.000 Are you visiting?

00:02:39.000 It's like five minutes away from here.

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:41.000 Do you like it here?

00:02:42.000 I love Dallas.

00:02:43.000 Yeah?

00:02:44.000 Good city.

00:02:45.000 We've had some people complain about the heat, saying it's bipolar today.

00:02:47.000 Of course.

00:02:48.000 No, today is beautiful.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, this is now.

00:02:50.000 What do you complain about today?

00:02:51.000 Maybe next morning it'll be like 100 degrees.

00:02:53.000 So they started to complain today.

00:02:55.000 I know.

00:02:56.000 I was raised in Canada where we get negative 40.

00:02:58.000 So I'll take a little heat if that means I don't get nine months of blistering cold.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, for real.

00:03:04.000 Obviously, a big topic in the news is immigration in this country.

00:03:07.000 Deportations have stepped up.

00:03:09.000 We've seen these riots, protests in the streets.

00:03:12.000 What are your initial thoughts on that as far as immigration in the United States?

00:03:15.000 You know what I think is they do something like really like a hack for us, I think because I'm anti-reach too.

00:03:24.000 And then how I say to the North are like really bad.

00:03:30.000 Don't worry about it.

00:03:32.000 We have like mostly people coming from Mexico, from different place to South America, Central America, come to work for opportunity for our family, you know.

00:03:42.000 And then also we make family here too when we get married with an American who was from woman from the same country too.

00:03:51.000 Yeah.

00:03:53.000 And then now the problem, I understand why he do it, but now a lot of people have family here.

00:03:59.000 You know, you get separate kids, they born here.

00:04:01.000 It's understanding.

00:04:03.000 They don't know nothing about over there.

00:04:05.000 And then I have a lot of people live over here for like 15, 20 years.

00:04:09.000 You know, they already established over here.

00:04:12.000 Sure.

00:04:13.000 This one is difficult.

00:04:14.000 It's difficult.

00:04:15.000 So what do we do with someone who broke the law and came here a while ago and is still here illegally? 0.68

00:04:21.000 You know, trying to fix that problem, you know, a lot of people like me, we pay taxes.

00:04:29.000 We do all the things under law, you know.

00:04:34.000 Only the problem we do is when we come in here, LA.

00:04:37.000 The law is only double.

00:04:38.000 It's only one, one thing we broke from here.

00:04:43.000 You know, I have a lot of people over here, even American people, they broke the law like many times.

00:04:49.000 Then USA don't do nothing to that. 0.99

00:04:52.000 We come over here.

00:04:53.000 Well, if they don't get caught.

00:04:54.000 Yeah.

00:04:55.000 We don't come over here to steal a job.

00:04:57.000 We don't come over here to steal cars, to steal money, to steal land.

00:05:01.000 Only come here to work, you know?

00:05:03.000 So looking for a better life.

00:05:06.000 Better life for ourselves, for our family, you know.

00:05:11.000 And then I think, but the USA is difficult to fix or paper.

00:05:18.000 For me, I live here for nine years and married for two years.

00:05:23.000 The country, they don't pay me even a green car, you know?

00:05:25.000 Yeah, it takes a time already.

00:05:26.000 It takes a while, yeah.

00:05:27.000 It takes a while.

00:05:29.000 Yeah.

00:05:29.000 More than two years, and then even I don't get nothing, you know.

00:05:32.000 It's still the same.

00:05:33.000 So you're married to an American?

00:05:34.000 Yeah.

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:35.000 Well, you're not at risk of being deported then.

00:05:37.000 No, over here it's not very dangerous, but you see what happened in California, where it's more of my people over there, when it's like, My people is like Mexican. 0.88

00:05:46.000 I'm Mexican.

00:05:47.000 Both my parents came here in 1960.

00:05:49.000 My dad came here in 63, but my parents are in 65.

00:05:51.000 And growing up our whole lives in Los Angeles, California, surrounded by a lot of immigrants, surrounded by a lot of ethnicities, surrounded by a lot of culture, they still said it doesn't matter what that says.

00:06:01.000 You're still 100% American.

00:06:03.000 The country comes first.

00:06:04.000 This is the country that gave us freedom.

00:06:05.000 Our country took away our freedom in one day.

00:06:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:06:10.000 So it was very interesting to see all that, and it was very interesting to grow up around that kind of environment and still have that mindset.

00:06:17.000 And what boggles my mind is that people don't see that.

00:06:20.000 They just want to keep going with, they want to keep on going with this narrative of, you know, immigrants should be allowed to do whatever they want and free.

00:06:28.000 I just, it kills me.

00:06:29.000 If I were to go to Mexico and live there.

00:06:32.000 And by the way, I can't protest.

00:06:33.000 I can't even own waterfront property in Mexico, right?

00:06:35.000 And I said, no, no, but I'm American.

00:06:36.000 I'm not Mexican.

00:06:38.000 That would not be tolerated.

00:06:39.000 Americans, I will say, I'm half Canadian, don't like it when they hear you say, I'm Mexican.

00:06:44.000 Then we don't want people here who don't identify as American. 1.00

00:06:47.000 Is that fair?

00:06:48.000 You shouldn't be here if you're not American. 1.00

00:06:51.000 You know, I think this one is a world freedom for everybody.

00:06:55.000 I think land is no own for nobody.

00:06:58.000 I think people need to go wherever they want.

00:07:00.000 I understand the rules of other countries, you know.

00:07:03.000 I think mostly Latin or Hispanic people, maybe 90%, they know broke the rules. 1.00

00:07:09.000 They only come here for work. 0.94

00:07:11.000 At your house, do you wave the American flag?

00:07:13.000 Chinese flag.

00:07:15.000 Oh, we don't have any flags.

00:07:16.000 Get an American flag.

00:07:18.000 We expect that of immigrants here.

00:07:19.000 You come here, you gotta be American, gotta love America.

00:07:22.000 I'm American, yeah.

00:07:22.000 I'm still trying to.

00:07:23.000 Oh, guess what?

00:07:24.000 Guess what?

00:07:24.000 Just start considering it tryouts.

00:07:26.000 Oh, maybe, maybe it's a lot of protests here.

00:07:28.000 Well, because Americans, I will say, I'm half Canadian, was raised there.

00:07:31.000 Americans don't take very kindly. 1.00

00:07:33.000 Actually, let me show you that.

00:07:34.000 These are the riots, the protests.

00:07:35.000 What do you think they would do in China?

00:07:37.000 It's so wildly in LA.

00:07:38.000 Yeah, what do you think they would do in China if you were protesting and waving a foreign flag?

00:07:42.000 This will never happen.

00:07:43.000 It seems like people who flee actual communism are very patriotic.

00:07:48.000 Absolutely.

00:07:49.000 It's because, well, they understand what they've left, and they understand what they're gaining.

00:07:55.000 And they're willing to put in the effort and the work into what they're gaining versus what they never had. 0.89

00:07:59.000 And I think that's a really good, you know, it's the only country that we know of that nobody wants to leave, but they want to talk as much crap as they want about it. 0.91

00:08:06.000 I know. 0.75

00:08:06.000 It's the only one that we know of. 0.75

00:08:08.000 And I appreciate that you are working.

00:08:10.000 But you and I both know that's not all people coming here illegally.

00:08:12.000 And also, hundreds of terrorists were captured at the border, right, when the border is open.

00:08:18.000 There are more slaves on earth than ever, 40 million, many of them.

00:08:21.000 You're the cartels, right?

00:08:22.000 If you try and come here, you know that for every person like you, there's a dozen people who were captured by the cartels, taken advantage of, right?

00:08:28.000 They run the southern border.

00:08:30.000 and that illegal immigrants are two to five times more likely to commit crimes, and they cost taxpayers $400 billion a year. 0.52

00:08:36.000 So Americans are saying, hey, come here legally, get on the...

00:08:43.000 They will have a problem with you saying you're Mexican, not American.

00:08:45.000 Because come here, you're American.

00:08:47.000 But we do need to find out who's coming here.

00:08:48.000 The problem to come here legally is difficult, really difficult to get like a visa or like how I say in English.

00:09:00.000 My English is really bad.

00:09:01.000 No, actually, it's not bad.

00:09:02.000 It's good.

00:09:02.000 I appreciate it.

00:09:03.000 It's really difficult to come illegal over here to USA.

00:09:06.000 For this one, mostly people do it that way.

00:09:11.000 It's the way we have to come here.

00:09:13.000 You don't, you can stay in Mexico.

00:09:15.000 You don't have to come to the States.

00:09:16.000 It's not a law.

00:09:17.000 It's difficult for a lot of people to stay in Mexico because Mexico, they have a problem about cartels.

00:09:22.000 Where you go live, I have a lot of people, they run away from cartels.

00:09:26.000 They're looking for a place to live.

00:09:29.000 And I guess happy.

00:09:31.000 They're escaping violence or crime or poverty.

00:09:35.000 Other people coming over here because they port.

00:09:40.000 This family didn't have money or they want to do something better to them.

00:09:46.000 It's better here.

00:09:47.000 My mom, we have like a decent house, you know, but I want something better for my mom.

00:09:53.000 Right.

00:09:53.000 Something better for my sisters.

00:09:55.000 I'm trying to come over here legally before when I work in the college, USA didn't give me the opportunity to come over here, you know?

00:10:02.000 And when Mexico gets really difficult to live, when I have my two sisters and my mom, my dad died.

00:10:09.000 So I need to find the solution.

00:10:12.000 Same place for post-assigned criminals first.

00:10:15.000 But also, I don't know if it's just the media or like what I'm reading is there are a lot of, you know, just on the street, people getting arrested for no reason.

00:10:25.000 So like probably, let me guess.

00:10:26.000 Okay, I'm just going to guess.

00:10:28.000 You probably read about the man who was deported to an El Salvador prison.

00:10:31.000 Yes.

00:10:32.000 Yeah.

00:10:32.000 So, and he shouldn't have been deported, right?

00:10:36.000 I don't know about this matter as well.

00:10:39.000 No, I'm taking this in the media.

00:10:40.000 That's a famous one.

00:10:41.000 It's just like there is a lot of coverage on these topics.

00:10:46.000 I think maybe it's just not as known to the public that what are the steps that they're taking to make this happen.

00:10:54.000 I think that would be a good message to let the public know.

00:10:57.000 I agree.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:10:59.000 And that's the thing is, part of the country is trying to, and the media is feeding lies.

00:11:03.000 So that man is actually MS-13.

00:11:04.000 He's a human trafficker.

00:11:05.000 He's being brought back.

00:11:07.000 So I think those things are not getting highlighted.

00:11:09.000 Yeah, every single thing.

00:11:12.000 These are the standards that we're going after.

00:11:15.000 I don't think those are, at least I have seen those.

00:11:18.000 Well, I think we need to deport everyone here illegally because we don't know who they are. 1.00

00:11:21.000 And because of the crime and because of the drug cartels, and I understand people are seeking a better life, but the problem is you're empowering really bad people.

00:11:29.000 And if you don't, just like in China, they wouldn't tolerate it, right? 0.84

00:11:31.000 If you were driving without a license in China, you're probably going You're in big trouble.

00:11:35.000 Whereas here they just deport you.

00:11:36.000 They go, oh, you're not supposed to be here anyway.

00:11:38.000 You're driving without a license or you got a DWI.

00:11:40.000 Well, we're going to deport you.

00:11:41.000 And then that's.

00:11:42.000 They're going to get plane tickets?

00:11:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:44.000 Send them back.

00:11:45.000 They can self-identify, deport, and come back.

00:11:48.000 I had a lady actually right up here at this hotel. 1.00

00:11:50.000 I was there for New Year's.

00:11:51.000 And privileged white lady, you know. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Of course.

00:11:54.000 And she was blaming the current situation in Cuba on the United States.

00:11:57.000 Really?

00:11:58.000 Well, she goes, yeah, well, the embargoes.

00:11:59.000 And I go, okay.

00:12:01.000 Cuba, here's the horrible part about Cuba.

00:12:03.000 It has the perfect climate to grow anything.

00:12:05.000 Anything.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, anything.

00:12:06.000 It's like slapping God in the face, putting communism in the net.

00:12:09.000 Absolutely.

00:12:09.000 Also, they have the two biggest trading partners at Communist China and Russia.

00:12:13.000 And Russia.

00:12:13.000 And they still can't make it home.

00:12:14.000 How is this our fault?

00:12:15.000 It's not.

00:12:16.000 It's not.

00:12:16.000 I know that.

00:12:17.000 I mean, Cuba is actually the gateway to the West.

00:12:20.000 You know, I mean, as far as the boards, during, I'm sure that you know, during the American Civil War, Spain was backing the Confederacy and they said, hey, if you win the war, we'll give you Cuba.

00:12:31.000 Yeah.

00:12:31.000 Well, it even goes back further than that with that.

00:12:33.000 100%.

00:12:34.000 But it's funny that you mentioned that.

00:12:35.000 A lot of people don't realize Mexico was only a country for like, was it 23 or 27 years?

00:12:39.000 I think it was like 27 years.

00:12:40.000 Yeah, 27 years.

00:12:41.000 So USA stolen land and that was a trip. 0.51

00:12:45.000 And then we were watching the live riots and they go, we say the most dangerous immigrants ever were from 1492. 1.00

00:12:50.000 I'm like, you mean the Spanish?

00:12:51.000 Hold on.

00:12:52.000 You're right.

00:12:54.000 Not even British or American or French or German is the Spanish.

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00:13:04.000 Eastern.

00:13:05.000 Let's continue with talking with people.

00:13:10.000 Why would you just say people are escaping a country, drug cartels, poverty, right?

00:13:14.000 More opportunity here.

00:13:15.000 It's better.

00:13:16.000 Why would you identify with the country that you had to leave to seek that opportunity, Adam?

00:13:20.000 Don't you think it shows to people here who work and pay taxes?

00:13:23.000 Go like, hey, that seems like a lack of gratitude.

00:13:25.000 If you're here, you should want to be American or you shouldn't be here. 1.00

00:13:28.000 Not Mexican. 1.00

00:13:29.000 You know, I'm trying to fix that thing, of course.

00:13:33.000 I'm trying hard.

00:13:33.000 You know, I told you already, two years to fight to stay here because now I want to stay here.

00:13:39.000 This one is my house now.

00:13:40.000 I live over here.

00:13:41.000 My family is over there.

00:13:42.000 You understand?

00:13:43.000 Of course, I'm born over there.

00:13:44.000 And still identification Mexican because I'm born in Mexico.

00:13:48.000 But I lived here for like almost 10 years.

00:13:51.000 And I'm going to stay here.

00:13:53.000 I guess if the governor he goes, let me stay here.

00:13:56.000 No, I'm already getting married.

00:13:57.000 I want to have my children here.

00:13:58.000 I want to make my family here.

00:14:00.000 Well, Cuba is, I've been, so I'm one of the, at least for a portion of time, I went and entertained the troops in Guantanamo Bay.

00:14:06.000 And then as, because I had a Canadian passport, I went there to shoot a commercial.

00:14:10.000 So I was one of the few people who legally had both passports stamps.

00:14:13.000 Guantanamo Bay, because only Americans go there, no Canadian military anyways.

00:14:17.000 But then also in Havana.

00:14:18.000 And I'll tell you, it's really sad to see.

00:14:21.000 It is absolutely horrible.

00:14:23.000 It is absolutely horrible.

00:14:23.000 I have friends that visited there, and they've left their suitcases and all their belongings there just so people can, you know.

00:14:29.000 And then they say it's the greatest, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, it's a great country.

00:14:32.000 I'm like, what are you guys talking about?

00:14:34.000 Like, they have nothing.

00:14:36.000 They're literally living in dirt houses and crapping in holes.

00:14:39.000 And it's like, communism is the worst thing in the world.

00:14:42.000 Yeah. 0.82

00:14:42.000 Communism is the worst thing in the world. 0.82

00:14:44.000 It does not work.

00:14:45.000 Well, especially because it's like you take Cuba, you go, you have everything.

00:14:48.000 If communism would work, it should work here.

00:14:51.000 Pretty, I mean, they had slaves that came over, so there are a lot of black Cubans, but pretty homogenous compared to the United States.

00:14:57.000 Absolutely.

00:14:57.000 Very, very fertile soil, right?

00:15:00.000 Yes.

00:15:00.000 Huge trading partners.

00:15:01.000 Huge trading partners.

00:15:01.000 And they've had it unfettered, and it's only gotten worse.

00:15:03.000 It's only gotten worse.

00:15:04.000 It's never gotten any better, and I don't understand why they can't see that.

00:15:06.000 And then, of course, it's always our fault.

00:15:08.000 It's always America's fault.

00:15:08.000 It's always, you know, it's always us saying that, well, you guys haven't tried to open up any trade or any kind of roots with them or any kind of negotiations with them.

00:15:16.000 And, like, they don't want to.

00:15:17.000 They're making so much money, hand over fifth.

00:15:19.000 Why would, I mean, why would they want to change that?

00:15:21.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 I mean, everything, well, just like you said, everything goes directly to the government.

00:15:25.000 Yeah.

00:15:25.000 Nothing goes to the people, well, whatsoever.

00:15:27.000 Yeah.

00:15:27.000 You know, people always say communism works.

00:15:29.000 I'm like, explain it to me how communism works.

00:15:31.000 And they say, well, on paper, it looks great.

00:15:32.000 I said, yes.

00:15:33.000 Now, put the human mind into it.

00:15:36.000 Yeah. 0.89

00:15:37.000 You know, greedy, well, greedy people, evil, well, evil people.

00:15:40.000 It doesn't matter if they're the topper or on the bomb.

00:15:42.000 It doesn't matter.

00:15:43.000 They can take advantage of the situation as much as possible.

00:15:45.000 Now, centralize that power.

00:15:47.000 Correct.

00:15:47.000 See what kind of problem you get.

00:15:48.000 Exactly.

00:15:49.000 It's the same thing here.

00:15:50.000 It just blows my mind.

00:15:51.000 Do you know what the immigration policy is like in China?

00:15:55.000 It's very strict.

00:15:57.000 It's very not welcoming, as far as I'm understanding.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:01.000 I think it's very hard to get in.

00:16:03.000 It's very hard to stay.

00:16:04.000 But I think right now, as you know, just based on their current growth in terms of population and economy, they definitely need to update their procedures as well.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:15.000 So that they can not only attract foreign talents, but also, you know, have the local talents to stay.

00:16:24.000 So.

00:16:24.000 They now have a pretty big look at it.

00:16:26.000 So you would acknowledge that it definitely is easier for you to immigrate here than for people to get in China.

00:16:31.000 100%.

00:16:31.000 So my husband is American.

00:16:33.000 We talked about it a lot.

00:16:34.000 You know, it depends on how it goes.

00:16:36.000 We either need to stay here or, you know, we can move back to China.

00:16:40.000 But I think it's going to be...

00:16:41.000 You would move back to China, really?

00:16:42.000 You know, just have the possibilities open.

00:16:46.000 But I think as we're talking, it's just like, you know, it's going to be a lot easier for me to stay here than like coming to China.

00:16:55.000 Is America the greatest country in the world?

00:16:56.000 America, for me, they bring me everything, you know?

00:17:00.000 Make me happy.

00:17:01.000 No, not selfishly.

00:17:02.000 Is it the greatest country on earth?

00:17:03.000 Yes and no.

00:17:06.000 Great.

00:17:07.000 What country is better?

00:17:08.000 I know things in our country is better.

00:17:10.000 Every country they have, they cross, you know? 1.00

00:17:13.000 They have the good things and they have the bad things.

00:17:15.000 Everywhere.

00:17:16.000 They don't have like a happiness place in the world.

00:17:20.000 Never.

00:17:20.000 You don't go find it.

00:17:22.000 That's the big difference when people talk about we're a nation of immigrants.

00:17:24.000 And that's true.

00:17:25.000 But, you know, the Italians, the Irish, the Poles, Germans at one point in time.

00:17:28.000 There's a big difference.

00:17:30.000 First off, that was pre-welfare, right?

00:17:31.000 You pay taxes.

00:17:32.000 You know a lot of illegal immigrants don't.

00:17:34.000 That's one of the benefits.

00:17:35.000 But all those people came to this country and every single one would say, I came to the greatest country in the world and I'm grateful to be here.

00:17:41.000 And if not, they went back and left.

00:17:42.000 This is the first generation of people who come here and say, yeah, but it's not that great.

00:17:46.000 A lot of people come here for opportunity, you know?

00:17:50.000 A lot of...

00:17:51.000 That's greedy.

00:17:51.000 Maybe like 50% they only come for four years and they go back.

00:17:55.000 Yeah.

00:17:56.000 And they go back.

00:17:56.000 Four years and they go back.

00:17:57.000 Yeah, that's done.

00:17:58.000 No more of that.

00:17:59.000 That shouldn't be allowed.

00:18:01.000 One thing is because...

00:18:02.000 Do you agree that shouldn't be allowed?

00:18:03.000 You shouldn't be allowed to come here, benefit from the system and go back.

00:18:07.000 What's the benefit for Americans if you come here for four years? 0.85

00:18:09.000 The problem is America, in the opinion, they want it for free.

00:18:11.000 You know, we work for the bank.

00:18:12.000 We work.

00:18:13.000 No, no, the problem is coming here and sending the money back.

00:18:15.000 No, but when we get the check, we pay the taxes, you know?

00:18:18.000 We print the taxes out.

00:18:19.000 When I get my first check and my check, they say, you know, this one is the money you go bring to America, you know?

00:18:27.000 No, all the money is for me.

00:18:28.000 America get percent too, to understand.

00:18:30.000 Taxes.

00:18:31.000 For my work.

00:18:32.000 Yes.

00:18:32.000 I'm working for that.

00:18:33.000 Because you pay taxes.

00:18:33.000 Yeah, I pay taxes.

00:18:34.000 So I'm not coming over here to take the money.

00:18:37.000 Only and then go.

00:18:38.000 I'm working over here.

00:18:40.000 I print percent of the taxes.

00:18:41.000 Mostly people do.

00:18:43.000 Because I think mostly, mostly checks, they take you the tax out.

00:18:48.000 Sure.

00:18:48.000 Don't do checks.

00:18:49.000 Yeah.

00:18:49.000 So it's not true to say, oh, the people come over here and then take the money and then go back.

00:18:54.000 No, what I'm saying is, how do you build a country with people who come in, take advantage of the opportunity and leave? 1.00

00:18:58.000 You know, a lot of people...

00:18:59.000 You can't...

00:18:59.000 Mexico doesn't allow that.

00:19:00.000 A lot of people...

00:19:01.000 Yeah, Mexico does that. 1.00

00:19:02.000 A lot of other people come to Mexico and do the same thing.

00:19:05.000 You know, most people stay.

00:19:06.000 Because maybe they love Mexico, they like Mexico, all these things.

00:19:10.000 You know, a lot of Americans go to Mexico and live in Mexico.

00:19:12.000 They don't pay taxes.

00:19:13.000 They work with the computing.

00:19:14.000 And they get money over here.

00:19:16.000 Far fewer than coming to the States. 0.79

00:19:17.000 And you're not even allowed to own waterfront property in Mexico.

00:19:19.000 Their immigration laws are way stricter.

00:19:21.000 No, and Mexico...

00:19:22.000 Yes, they are.

00:19:22.000 They don't ask you for taxes like here.

00:19:24.000 You know, they don't get...

00:19:25.000 get checked from over here and Mexico say premium taxes whatever you win no you don't pay taxes you don't pay taxes in Mexico if you're American no if you're if you're if you're living you become Mexican citizens don't pay taxes or you mean on tourism a lot of Americans they stay live in Mexico City a lot because I went to college there you know they rent apartment there you know they don't pay taxes from Mexico they only get a check from USA pay the rent buy the kings or you mean they're being paid from the States?

00:19:54.000 You mean like if they're on their social security, stuff like that?

00:19:56.000 Yes.

00:19:56.000 No, they're not working a job.

00:19:57.000 That's very different.

00:19:58.000 What I'm saying is coming here, working, and going back in four years, how do you build a country on people who come and leave? 1.00

00:20:03.000 They people, they come to help you, you know?

00:20:06.000 They people build that thing.

00:20:07.000 They people build that piece.

00:20:09.000 Build this one, build this one.

00:20:10.000 Could Americans build it? 0.51

00:20:11.000 For Americans, they go stay over here. 1.00

00:20:12.000 They know what they go there.

00:20:13.000 But could Americans build it?

00:20:15.000 I guess they go take more time.

00:20:17.000 Really?

00:20:18.000 Right, but you think that is good?

00:20:20.000 I guess we are the workers really hard in this country.

00:20:23.000 And then you see it if you go looking everywhere.

00:20:26.000 This one's not lie, you know, I'm not saying this one because I'm Mexican.

00:20:30.000 I say this one because I see this, you know.

00:20:33.000 I see Latin, Hispanic, Mexican work and the street, work and that thing, work and this work.

00:20:39.000 I don't see a lot of Americans do that, you understand?

00:20:41.000 It's hard work, work and this hit, you know?

00:20:44.000 But do you think that maybe that's because illegal immigrants cost the company less?

00:20:48.000 Because they cost less.

00:20:50.000 They cost less.

00:20:51.000 You understand that?

00:20:51.000 So what if Americans would do it for a fair wage?

00:20:54.000 For that one too, you know, if we are legally, you know, people ask you for 30, 35, 40 per hour, you know?

00:21:02.000 We get 20, 22, and also we get this 22 donors per hour.

00:21:08.000 We pay taxes.

00:21:10.000 You understand how difficult it is?

00:21:11.000 When you pay taxes.

00:21:12.000 Mostly pay taxes.

00:21:14.000 I think when you get a check, because when you are a company, construction company, the government will ask you who you hired, who it is.

00:21:22.000 Is America a better country than China? 1.00

00:21:24.000 I think it is better.

00:21:25.000 I think it's definitely a better place to have a better work-life balance.

00:21:31.000 Like cost of living is not as high, especially in Dallas Cities.

00:21:36.000 And then just overall, not as much, I don't feel as much of peer pressure here.

00:21:42.000 So definitely for me, I think it's a better fit here.

00:21:46.000 My dad came here on a banana boat, Chiquita banana boat.

00:21:49.000 He hid in the bananas, came here in 1963, landed in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, joined the army.

00:21:57.000 Wow.

00:21:57.000 And again, first joined the army, then once that was done, because the Bay of Pigs was killed after Kennedy Will was assassinated, so the Army gave him an option.

00:22:07.000 You could either stay in or we can ETS you and you can go on your way.

00:22:10.000 And he's like, I'm on my way.

00:22:13.000 And so he met up with some friends and some Cubans that he met.

00:22:17.000 They got an apartment together and they've worked together and they've paid taxes.

00:22:21.000 They became American citizens.

00:22:22.000 My dad became American citizen in 1986.

00:22:25.000 my mom came in and recognized this in 1988 my mom Yes.

00:22:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:30.000 My mom left Cuba in 1965.

00:22:33.000 Okay.

00:22:33.000 And so my mom and my dad sort of met, they went to New York.

00:22:39.000 One winter in New York, they're like, we're done.

00:22:42.000 I get it.

00:22:43.000 We're done.

00:22:43.000 So then they came back to Florida and then they said, look, there's no work here.

00:22:47.000 We need to work.

00:22:48.000 And we want to contribute.

00:22:49.000 So they went straight to California, found tons of work there.

00:22:52.000 My mom worked for the Los Angeles Zoo for 20 plus years.

00:22:56.000 My dad worked for the zoo as well.

00:22:57.000 Let me get it.

00:22:58.000 She worked other jobs too.

00:22:59.000 Like, yes.

00:22:59.000 All Cubans I know have side hustles because they go, wait, I get paid more if I work over 10?

00:23:04.000 Because it's so over there, you work as long as they tell you.

00:23:06.000 Absolutely.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, so yeah, I mean, she did that. 1.00

00:23:10.000 So she worked at the LA Zoo.

00:23:12.000 My dad worked nights.

00:23:13.000 She worked days.

00:23:14.000 And what they did is they tried to buy a small little restaurant in Burbank, California, or Glendale.

00:23:20.000 And whoever was not working, they would go work the shop.

00:23:24.000 And then they would switch off when the person got off work.

00:23:26.000 So it was something of that.

00:23:30.000 It was very inspiring to see the American dream come true for so many people that came here and my parents being one of them.

00:23:37.000 What's your duty to America?

00:23:39.000 What do you owe America for giving you the opportunity?

00:23:41.000 What's your duty to this country?

00:23:44.000 I guess no broke the law, work hard.

00:23:48.000 Maybe when we go premium the papers, I will try to help more.

00:23:51.000 I guess, no, I cannot do nothing.

00:23:53.000 Only work and then respect people, not disrespect that country, because this country premi me a lot, you know?

00:23:58.000 It's what I not do.

00:23:59.000 I think that's a good ad.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, only that, only that I can tell right now.

00:24:03.000 I cannot do nothing, more, nothing less.

00:24:05.000 Well, I think that's a good ad.

00:24:06.000 So you won't be riding in the streets like in Los Angeles, burning down cop cars.

00:24:10.000 I think you're a working man with a family.

00:24:11.000 It seems like every Cuban American I know, and the way I explained to me, I said, well, because for us, when we first hear about overtime, yes, you have to understand a month's pay over there is a month's pay, and you can maybe get a bar of soap if you're lucky.

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 So when we come here, we're like, wait, I get time and a half.

00:24:28.000 Wait, I can work another job that I choose.

00:24:31.000 Absolutely.

00:24:31.000 And that's not what we're seeing right now with this current generation of immigrants.

00:24:35.000 No, we're not.

00:24:36.000 What we're seeing is what can you give me?

00:24:38.000 And I don't want to give nothing back to you.

00:24:39.000 And I want to change the entire culture to where I came from because that's what makes me feel good.

00:24:46.000 Right.

00:24:47.000 You know, but it's like, but you're left there for a reason.

00:24:49.000 Your culture wasn't working.

00:24:50.000 I mean, I'm not saying that your culture is bad, but the government's not working.

00:24:54.000 And if you start bringing those kind of elements back into the government, you're going to get the same thing you had where you came from.

00:25:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:02.000 Well, it's like this week, the same guy, he talked about how he sent his money back home.

00:25:06.000 And they talked about a lot of people, they come in, they worked for four years, and they leave, so they don't cost taxpayers' money.

00:25:10.000 I said, okay, how do we build a country on people who send their money out and come here for four years and leave?

00:25:16.000 We can't do that.

00:25:16.000 There's no way to sustain us now.

00:25:17.000 There's no way to sustain that.

00:25:18.000 Yeah, I mean, and that's the biggest problem with that.

00:25:22.000 I personally think that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

00:25:25.000 If they do that, it should be taxed.

00:25:26.000 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 It should be 100% taxed.

00:25:28.000 Yeah, remittance tax, yeah.

00:25:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:30.000 You need some kind of tax.

00:25:31.000 Well, just think about it.

00:25:31.000 The Cubans, so when my mom was with me, because I was a miner in Havana, a server, it was like at a restaurant out, my mom left the tip on the receipt.

00:25:40.000 I said, mom, remember they don't get that.

00:25:43.000 My mom, being a naive, sweet lady, goes, well, I'm sorry, she goes, let me take that off and I'll let you do cash. 0.90

00:25:49.000 She goes, no, no, no, no, no.

00:25:50.000 Because then the government would know that she told them.

00:25:52.000 And I'm going to go, okay, just keep it, leave it there, and here's some cash anyway.

00:25:56.000 Because we found out that all of it goes straight to the government.

00:25:59.000 Everything goes to the government bank.

00:25:59.000 And So people don't want to send their money back to communist government.

00:26:02.000 It's very different from not fleeing communism in Mexico.

00:26:05.000 They just see more opportunity here.

00:26:06.000 Sure.

00:26:07.000 And so there's less gratitude in a lot of places in South America.

00:26:10.000 And it's also a lot safer and there's a lot more to do out here.

00:26:13.000 And it's hard to get a business license in Mexico.

00:26:16.000 Yes, it is.

00:26:17.000 It's really hard.

00:26:18.000 It's really hard to get a business license in Mexico even start up a business.

00:26:20.000 Especially if you're an immigrant.

00:26:21.000 Especially if you're an immigrant.

00:26:22.000 But even if you are an immigrant and you are actually a legalized Mexican, you go to the bank and you're like, hey, I want to get a business loan.

00:26:27.000 They're like, that's nice.

00:26:30.000 That's really nice.

00:26:31.000 Well, what do you want to do?

00:26:32.000 And they're just sitting there like, I don't know, I want to sell tacos.

00:26:35.000 He's like, how about marijuana?

00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:38.000 That's what we do here.

00:26:38.000 And that's what we do here.

00:26:39.000 Thank you, Chico.

00:26:40.000 Well, appreciate it, brother.

00:26:41.000 Thank you.

00:26:41.000 Thank you for the opinion, brother.

00:26:42.000 Be well.

00:26:43.000 Thank you.

00:26:43.000 I hope you and your husband do well, and I hope that you get that citizenship.

00:26:46.000 You guys can stay here.

00:26:47.000 All right.

00:26:47.000 Thank you so much, Skylar.

00:26:48.000 No, I appreciate it, man.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:26:50.000 Armando?

00:26:50.000 Yes, Armando Garcia.

00:26:51.000 Armando.

00:26:51.000 Thank you, man.

00:26:52.000 Say thanks to your parents, too, for coming in and making the country a better place.

00:26:56.000 Well, that was mostly nice.

00:26:58.000 You can let me know what you think below.

00:26:59.000 This has been Talking with People.

00:27:01.000 Stay tuned for next week, in which I talk with this guy.

00:27:05.000 Meet, let's call him Gabe Bryan.

00:27:08.000 I'm of the belief that if we can help nine people and then one bad person comes in, I'm always worth helping.

00:27:15.000 I think it's worth helping those nine people.

00:27:16.000 What if we know that if you said, you nine have to stay in Mexico, we know that that one bad serial rapist, murderer, and slaver would be out of business. 0.78

Louder with Crowder - July 07, 2025

I Want You to Leave My Country | Talking With People Immigration Edition

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