Louder with Crowder - September 05, 2025


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In this episode, we talk about China's recent military parade and the potential threat they pose to the United States and the rest of the world. We discuss China's growing military capabilities and the impact they can have on the world, as well as the potential threats they pose.

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00:00:00.000 Off, you have different vehicles going to the city.
00:00:02.000 Multiple reentry.
00:00:02.000 Multiple reentry vehicles, which can each carry potentially up to 10 warheads, which are four megatons each.
00:00:09.000 So each one of those MERVs can destroy theoretically like 40 cities. 0.75
00:00:15.000 That's terri China, you're mean. 1.00
00:00:20.000 They're not them and forget about ours.
00:00:24.000 The idea that they're a paper we need to get over the idea that this is a paper tiger military.
00:00:28.000 Exactly.
00:00:33.000 Right.
00:00:33.000 And I I think that's honestly that's one of those kind of goals of doing this that we've talked about earlier is to make sure that the rest of the world knows that they have these kinds of capabilities.
00:00:41.000 Now, there's a difference between having a parade and actually fighting a war.
00:00:45.000 And I definitely understand that.
00:00:47.000 But the uh the Chinese state media, the CGTN actually shared this graphic of the missile that we were just talking about and said the true art of war is the art of stopping wars.
00:01:00.000 Okay, so uh you know, theoretically it's you know strategy deterrence essentially, right?
00:01:04.000 Um I uh I I don't I is China does China have global ambitions as far as conquering?
00:01:12.000 Like I know they want economically uh and they want to be able to control a lot of the the resources and we'll talk about that in a minute.
00:01:17.000 But do they have any advan like are they trying to take over new land masses and trying to plan to do stuff other than like reunification with Taiwan or something like that?
00:01:25.000 That's a different claim than just going just basically starting to head west and just take over whatever's in their power.
00:01:30.000 Well, you and you'll you'll see with the development of their navy from a brown water into what's called a blue water navy.
00:01:36.000 They are building vessels that can be expeditionary and operate in the open ocean.
00:01:41.000 Yeah.
00:01:41.000 If they had no intention to spread their influence throughout the world's oceans away from their backyard, then they wouldn't be building these things.
00:01:49.000 And they spread your influence is a lot different than conquering land.
00:01:51.000 Correct.
00:01:52.000 But yeah, I agree with that, yeah.
00:01:54.000 And we'll get to that in just a second when we look at this.
00:01:56.000 But yes, to to answer it sp shortly, yes.
00:01:59.000 So it's like when Tucker Carlson says, why does anybody need nukes?
00:02:03.000 No one's getting rid of the nukes.
00:02:06.000 No.
00:02:06.000 It's I mean it sounds great.
00:02:08.000 How many does China have roughly?
00:02:09.000 I know I think they're in third place, right?
00:02:11.000 They are, but they have doubled their capacity since 2019.
00:02:13.000 Oh and I think they're close to re they said they should be at about a thousand warheads by 2030, I think.
00:02:19.000 Okay.
00:02:20.000 A lot.
00:02:20.000 Yeah.
00:02:22.000 It seems like a little bit overkill.
00:02:24.000 I mean, shouldn't you just have like enough to kind of like you know wipe out every city on the planet once?
00:02:29.000 And that's probably fine.
00:02:30.000 I mean, I know a lot of these get taken out, but whatever.
00:02:32.000 Okay.
00:02:32.000 You say that until the alien invasion.
00:02:34.000 It's a good point, Josh.
00:02:35.000 No, they're gonna be at you're gonna be at China's feet. 0.99
00:02:38.000 No, I'm not gonna be at anybody's feet because I've seen Independence Day and it doesn't work against their shields unless you give them a virus and we can't do that.
00:02:44.000 That's not realistic.
00:02:45.000 You're talking about War of the World starting Ice Cube.
00:02:47.000 Oh, geez.
00:02:49.000 Where they reuse scenes over and over again.
00:02:51.000 All right, let's get back to a real threat.
00:02:53.000 Let's talk about their Navy, right?
00:02:55.000 And and one of the things that I want you to understand throughout this entire conversation is the advantage that the Americans mil have had militarily and economically, that is rapidly deteriorating.
00:03:06.000 And there are a lot of reasons for that.
00:03:08.000 Specifically, we're focusing on the military.
00:03:11.000 But economically, there are a lot of things that are happening in China that Donald Trump, as President of the United States, is doing more about than anybody else really has because he sees how these two things are connected.
00:03:21.000 So let's first start out with their Navy.
00:03:24.000 Lane, hit us with some knowledge.
00:03:25.000 Yeah, so they build much, much quicker than we do.
00:03:29.000 We have a tr you know, that's why we want to do the shipbuilding.
00:03:31.000 Donald Trump has talked about that a lot because they're just rapidly outpacing us.
00:03:35.000 They already have more ships than us. 0.51
00:03:36.000 Uh they're not as advanced, they're not as technologically advanced, but by 2030, they should have about 150 more ships than us.
00:03:42.000 And considering their goals, which we'll talk about, that's plenty to do what they need to do.
00:03:47.000 They don't need to come to San Francisco.
00:03:49.000 They just need to be able to go to the first island chain in the Western Pacific.
00:03:52.000 So it's we should we should learn how to build ships with the Koreans a lot quicker. 1.00
00:03:56.000 At least we know what clean up for.
00:03:58.000 The Koreans are great.
00:03:58.000 The Koreans are the best shipbuilders in the world.
00:04:00.000 Okay.
00:04:00.000 Yeah.
00:04:00.000 So we're who builds our ships for us right now.
00:04:03.000 Uh I'm not exactly sure.
00:04:05.000 But a lot of the inve the bilateral trade deal, the tariff deal that we have with Korea, yeah, a lot of that investment is going to go into shared like shipbuilding for that reason.
00:04:13.000 Okay.
00:04:14.000 So we can we can farm this out to people who are.
00:04:16.000 We would have to farm we just do not have the technical capability to do it quickly right now.
00:04:19.000 Yeah.
00:04:20.000 Is uh is is maybe maybe it's a good idea to strengthen the alliance between South Korea, Japan, the United States.
00:04:25.000 I think so.
00:04:26.000 Pretty good time for that.
00:04:27.000 Okay.
00:04:27.000 Fantastic.
00:04:28.000 Um so according to, And I'll read the quote really quickly.
00:04:31.000 According to a recent analysis analysis by Confluence, China can now deploy enormous forces to the South China Sea, the East China Sea, and the Taiwan Strait.
00:04:39.000 China's coastal military forces are now strong enough to potentially deter the U.S. from intervening in a crisis around Taiwan.
00:04:46.000 And that for us really is kind of the um that that's the threat point right now, right?
00:04:51.000 We're not really looking at China like you said, Josh.
00:04:52.000 Like it's very it's very different to go and have influence in a region than to go and like actually take ground, right?
00:04:57.000 Um you it's a much, much different kind of calculus.
00:05:01.000 But them going to take Taiwan is the thing that we've talked about for a very long time.
00:05:05.000 And it it's because they state that as a goal.
00:05:07.000 And you think specifically that Xi Jinping is trying to cement his legacy by doing that, to do something what is it to is it to be greater uh than uh uh Mao?
00:05:17.000 Yeah.
00:05:18.000 Or is it to be just to fulfill his legacy to a degree as well.
00:05:21.000 So it's all wrapped up in that it's it's fulfilling China's rightful place in the world. 0.96
00:05:25.000 It is the rejuvenation of the Chinese nation, it's all of this.
00:05:27.000 But Taiwan is like principle to that.
00:05:30.000 Right.
00:05:30.000 And a conversation started happening when we thought about Taiwan, because people made the comment if you let Russia go into Ukraine and there aren't severe penalties for doing that, China is gonna look at that situation and go into Taiwan.
00:05:41.000 Well, listen, I don't know that that's necessarily a hundred percent true.
00:05:45.000 I understand the thought behind it, and you can get into a conversation about that.
00:05:48.000 But what is true is what we have done regard regarding Ukraine and regarding Israel has left us in a really precarious position with munitions.
00:05:56.000 So we the the long-range precision missiles that that are crucial in Taiwan, uh it uh seems like we're gonna run out of those pretty quickly.
00:06:04.000 How long?
00:06:05.000 Uh so according to war games, the especially anti-ship missiles, which are gonna be the important things because they have a lot of ships.
00:06:12.000 We just talked about that.
00:06:13.000 So we can't get close to drop our short range munitions on them.
00:06:15.000 Right.
00:06:16.000 And so they'll be able to free to freely navigate across the Taiwan Strait, we'll need long range munitions.
00:06:21.000 Well, every estimate has us running out of those within about a week of combat.
00:06:25.000 Well, come on.
00:06:26.000 So and it takes about two years to reproduce one of these uh making more?
00:06:32.000 Yes, there's appropriations in the in the the new um defense or the new budget for these, obviously every year and they're increasing, but they're just difficult to make once you stop the inertia of making them.
00:06:44.000 Okay.
00:06:44.000 So it's starting these things back up.
00:06:45.000 When did we stop producing a lot of this stuff?
00:06:48.000 I know there's a lot of different timelines probably with this, but just in general.
00:06:50.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr.
00:06:51.000 The the biggest time period to look to is right after the end of the Cold War.
00:06:56.000 There was this thing called the Last Supper, where the d the undersecretary for the Defense Department came in and told all the contractors we do not need you to produce like you've been producing anymore.
00:07:04.000 The Cold War's over.
00:07:05.000 So all of you little defense contract tractors that exist, you're gonna get subsumed by the big three, you know, like Lockheed, Boeing.
00:07:11.000 And ever since then, there's just been it's it's like Pete Hague says saying, why does this bag of screws or whatever cost $10,000?
00:07:19.000 Well, it's because you have uncompetitive, an uncompetitive marketplace for stuff like this.
00:07:23.000 Aaron Powell So I mean, is there a way to restart that?
00:07:26.000 Because this is very this is very like big stuff.
00:07:29.000 Like it's not like you can just go in there and start manufacturing these things overnight.
00:07:33.000 So okay.
00:07:34.000 So and and look, we also still have a really big problem within this conversation on being dependent on China.
00:07:41.000 Aaron Powell When you came into office, President Trump tasked you with looking into our U.S. military's dependence on China and Chinese supplies of materials that are needed for our national defense.
00:07:53.000 I know China has put a stranglehold on critical minerals.
00:07:56.000 Uh I think President Trump asked for significant advances from you by October.
00:08:01.000 What's the update on our dependence from China?
00:08:04.000 Well, we've gotten after it after it for minute minute one.
00:08:07.000 Uh we will not be dependent on China.
00:08:08.000 We won't be dependent on anybody else.
00:08:11.000 The American military will be able to take a look at the U.S. But operate decisively. 0.68
00:08:16.000 We have to blame her.
00:08:17.000 And there's been neglect for decades.
00:08:19.000 And President Trump has pointed out to be the best, you can't depend on anyone else.
00:08:23.000 But Amer America First doesn't mean America alone.
00:08:26.000 We'll stand alongside our allies.
00:08:27.000 Yeah, we definitely need to make sure that we are not dependent on them for the materials, the raw materials to be able to make the weapons that we're going to need to use to fight them.
00:08:34.000 Like every single critical mineral that they have to do.
00:08:37.000 Well yes.
00:08:39.000 That Belt and Rhodes initiative was successful, I guess. 0.99
00:08:43.000 Well, to some degree.
00:08:44.000 I mean, it's incursions into Africa have been quite successful in securing a lot of this stuff.
00:08:48.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:49.000 Um so let's talk about the alliances.
00:08:51.000 Um this if I'm correct, this was the first time in history those three world leaders have ever been together and publicly together.
00:09:00.000 Don't know.
00:09:00.000 I mean, it's hard to get Kim anywhere.
00:09:02.000 Yeah, Well, that's true.
00:09:03.000 Because he has to take his toilet and collect his crap.
00:09:05.000 Yeah.
00:09:06.000 Not everybody goes for that on the writer.
00:09:08.000 So luckily China's not too far. 1.00
00:09:13.000 It's not.
00:09:14.000 They have a history of working together in some ways individually, right?
00:09:17.000 But the China has courted the Russia-North Korea relationship, and recently, India kind of pulling them into the mix, prompting President Trump to write.
00:09:26.000 Looks like we've lost India and Russia to deepest darkest China. 0.99
00:09:30.000 That sounds like from Paddington, darkest Peru. 0.93
00:09:33.000 I have kids.
00:09:34.000 So may they have a long and prosperous future together.
00:09:38.000 President Donald J. Trump.
00:09:40.000 Now, I'm gonna go on an eleven guess that he wasn't actually hoping that they would have a long and prosperous um future together.
00:09:46.000 That seems a bit more.
00:09:47.000 One would think that that would be a little counterintuitive to our interests.
00:09:50.000 Yeah.
00:09:50.000 So who are our allies?
00:09:52.000 I mentioned a couple of them a minute ago, but just run run down that list of people that are really the allies that are going to jump into it with us if necessary.
00:09:58.000 So how we said North Korea, China, Russia, you know, India, whatever.
00:10:01.000 Don't r especially those first three don't have an inherent commonality to make them allies.
00:10:06.000 They do all have a specific goal of dethroning the West. 0.88
00:10:10.000 Right.
00:10:10.000 And dethroning the United States from where we are.
00:10:12.000 And giving around sanctions, essentially right now for Russia.
00:10:15.000 They're basically willing to make friendly with anybody.
00:10:17.000 If you hear the term like multipolar world, it just means we need to take the US down from where they are now, which is which is what has allowed us to become as prosperous as we have.
00:10:25.000 Now our allies on the other hand, especially concerning the region like Japan, very good.
00:10:29.000 I put them at the top for their increasing spending.
00:10:32.000 Uh we have a bunch they're increasing the ability for their military to operate in different ways.
00:10:36.000 That's good.
00:10:37.000 Korea, I think everyone's kind of complaining about the new E. J. Myung administration for being too liberal and communist.
00:10:43.000 It's a little liberal.
00:10:43.000 It is, but I, you know, if you actually look at Korean politics as nothing new, so I'm not that worried about it.
00:10:49.000 Those two are pretty good.
00:10:50.000 Australia is another powerful one because they're in the region.
00:10:53.000 You don't think of them as an Asian country, but they are.
00:10:55.000 Well, if you look at the people that were at the parade, it's like all the people we've listed the Kazakhs, the Uzbekis, the Turkmenistan, and then for some reason this guy Daniel Andrews, who is a former premier in Victoria.
00:11:08.000 So like a very powerful person now for a consultancy group in Australia.
00:11:12.000 Why is he there?
00:11:12.000 Strange.
00:11:13.000 And then you have the UK, who we've talked about uh pretty incessantly recently about what what commonalities do we have with them anymore?
00:11:20.000 They're a communist country, basically, and they haven't even been able to hit their military recruiting goal for the last 14 years.
00:11:26.000 Well, what was the number on that we were talking about?
00:11:28.000 Wasn't it like 14 or 15,000?
00:11:30.000 Yeah, last year.
00:11:31.000 Regular forces sign-ups last year was a total of like 13,000 people.
00:11:35.000 Good God.
00:11:36.000 Their military is as small as it's been since the Napoleonic Wars.
00:11:39.000 Yes, in 200 years.
00:11:41.000 We were looking at that, I was shocked.
00:11:43.000 Wow.
00:11:44.000 It was the the estimates range from I think like 175 to 250, depending on how you count the numbers.
00:11:49.000 They must have more aircraft.
00:11:52.000 I don't even know.
00:11:53.000 I don't think that's a joke.
00:11:54.000 I think they might have more aircraft than pilots.
00:11:57.000 Maybe they're not going to be able to do that.
00:11:58.000 The Royal Air Force is kind of not shiny.
00:12:00.000 Yeah.
00:12:00.000 So when you import tons of people from Muslim countries that have no interest in defending your homeland, and then no one signs up for the military.
00:12:06.000 I'm not sure why Keir Starmer would be shocked at these numbers.
00:12:09.000 No.
00:12:09.000 So that's one that that's our uh special relationship right there.
00:12:12.000 And they've jumped into a lot of conflicts with this before, so has Canada, but Canada, Australia, UK.
00:12:16.000 Those are the people, and then Japan and Korea, obviously, I think as it makes sense.
00:12:20.000 Um Korea fought with us in Vietnam.
00:12:22.000 Did they?
00:12:23.000 Yep.
00:12:23.000 They didn't.
00:12:23.000 Uh-huh.
00:12:24.000 They actually gave troops to Vietnam.
00:12:26.000 So they're and Okay.
00:12:27.000 Sorry about that.
00:12:28.000 That was our bad, but thanks for jumping in anyway.
00:12:31.000 Um but uh Hegset actually did note how serious the threat was um in May at the Schenger La dialogue in Singapore.
00:12:40.000 Again, to be clear, any attempt by communist China to conquer Taiwan by force would result in devastating consequences for the Indo-Pacific and the world.
00:12:50.000 There's no reason to sugarcoat it.
00:12:52.000 The threat China poses is real and it could be eminent. 0.99
00:12:56.000 We hope not.
00:12:57.000 But it certainly could be so yeah, what really we want to come down to is like when we say China bad, right?
00:13:07.000 We've talked about China, we've talked about separating the people of China from the communist Chinese party, the leadership, all that, right?
00:13:13.000 But when we say that, the leadership, when we say the leadership is bad, and the direction of the country is bad, what do we mean?
00:13:19.000 So just to your point real quick, I do want to we do need to separate because I know we spent a lot of time shitting on India for lack of a better phrase. 0.73
00:13:27.000 They they also spend a lot of time technically shitting on their own on the street.
00:13:30.000 Literally.
00:13:30.000 So pardon me.
00:13:34.000 and they don't necessarily all even a majority of them want to be living under this system.
00:13:38.000 If you look at places, I think like Chongqing or maybe it was Chengdu, they're starting to project like anti-communist messaging up on their buildings.
00:13:45.000 That's dangerous for them.
00:13:46.000 Yeah, it is.
00:13:47.000 So there is a separation here, but the government still, you know, is who we're dealing with.
00:13:52.000 That government has one goal, and since 1990 or the end of the Cold War, it has been to defeat the United States in a military conflict.
00:13:59.000 Why?
00:13:59.000 Because they want to eventually surpass us on the world stage.
00:14:04.000 And this is not speculation.
00:14:06.000 They have made this very clear.
00:14:08.000 And they don't need to take over the entire world to do it.
00:14:11.000 There's this concept called realism in international relations.
00:14:14.000 And the idea of offensive realism is that, and which I think China subscribes to is that you need to continuously keep expanding your influence to make sure that that influence that you've gained isn't taken by another party.
00:14:25.000 Right.
00:14:26.000 And we know they want to control Asia. 0.95
00:14:28.000 And if they control Asia, that means they control about 50 to 60% of the world's economic activity. 0.98
00:14:34.000 If you do that, you don't need to storm the beaches of San Francisco or the beaches of Houston or wherever.
00:14:40.000 I don't know if you want to go to the beaches of Galveston anyway, but I digress.
00:14:44.000 Because you can put the screws to the United States in a million ways that are going to damage us beyond what we would even be able to recognize.
00:14:53.000 So they wouldn't even have to fight a kinetic war.
00:14:55.000 All of the best universities they're now in China.
00:14:57.000 All of these companies, Google, Facebook, uh, Apple, they aren't replaced with the Chinese versions of those companies.
00:15:04.000 Now you're working for those companies.
00:15:06.000 Do you think you have you think we have a problem accessing free and open information now?
00:15:10.000 Imagine when the top down is controlled from Beijing.
00:15:13.000 That is a scary world that no one wants to live in.
00:15:15.000 And the idea that this all comes from is something called Tian Sha and which is means under heaven.
00:15:21.000 It's how China has viewed themselves throughout history.
00:15:24.000 And then the name China, it's it's Jong Gua in China, that means middle country, which means from the inside out, everything revolves around China at the center and then the periphery.
00:15:32.000 That is what Xi Jinping wants to accomplish.
00:15:35.000 And you've seen when people do not, if we get to a point where we're trying to be antithetical to that, the Vietnamese tried that back in the 1400s. 0.85
00:15:42.000 I know this seems like we're going back, but China always likes to rely on 5,000 years of history. 0.72
00:15:48.000 They want to recreate that.
00:15:49.000 Well, they put the screws to Vietnam, invaded them, and made them become a tributary state to China. 0.97
00:15:54.000 Look at what's going on in Peru right now.
00:15:56.000 We talked about this yesterday, the fishing.
00:15:58.000 Yeah.
00:15:59.000 Do you think they're able to leave that chart up?
00:16:01.000 Look at look at that.
00:16:02.000 So right now that that border is is the coastal water.
00:16:05.000 So what is it, 12 miles out or 10 miles out?
00:16:09.000 You can claim as your waters, and then so international waters start right after that.
00:16:13.000 What you're seeing, all those dots, the vast majority of those dots are illegal Chinese fishing boats going there and basically stripping the resources that theoretically Peru has some claim to.
00:16:25.000 But this is Peru, this is in the Americas in the Western hemisphere.
00:16:28.000 This would be fall under the Truman Doctrine type of thing, right?
00:16:30.000 Well, why is China allowed to operate freely there?
00:16:33.000 Well, it's because they've paid off the Peruvian government with investments with building them new ports.
00:16:38.000 Right.
00:16:39.000 Those those illegal boats are serviced at Peruvian ports.
00:16:42.000 Yeah.
00:16:43.000 So the government is facilitating this.
00:16:45.000 So to think that they wouldn't put those kind of screws to the United States closer and closer, the more their power enhances, I think we are would be insane to think that.
00:16:54.000 So when someone says why is China your enemy, well, the same reason that they're trying to get people to sell them secrets.
00:17:01.000 Just uh yesterday, there was a Department of State employee that was charged with trying to steal state secrets to the Chinese.
00:17:07.000 Now it was a sting, but nonetheless, they're trying to do that.
00:17:10.000 The effort was there.
00:17:11.000 We have people in our government that are facilitating that.
00:17:14.000 So if anybody says why is China your enemy, there's a million examples to point to because they don't like what we are.
00:17:20.000 They want to be what we are, and they're doing everything in their capability to make that happen as quickly as possible.
00:17:25.000 That's my thought on it.
00:17:26.000 Yeah.
00:17:27.000 Well, and I think, look, I think that's all reasonable.
00:17:29.000 And there are a lot of people out there who would like to avoid a war.
00:17:33.000 And I think we would all be counted among those people.
00:17:35.000 But we are also realists in that, hey, we can't just assume that everybody else on the planet has the best of intentions for us and for our people.
00:17:43.000 So it's it's helpful to understand what the threat is and what it isn't.
00:17:47.000 And so one of the things I want to make sure that we do is we educate you so that you understand what the threat is not, because there are so many people out there right now that will title around breaking World War III or China set to do.
00:17:59.000 And all they're really trying to do is to get you to tune in to get a click to get some kind of money to get some kind of prestige from it.
00:18:05.000 And I understand that there is a titling world out there where you're trying to get people to understand what the video's about, make it interesting so that you'll want to watch it.
00:18:12.000 That's fine.
00:18:13.000 But constantly overselling stuff, it actually makes it to where I don't pay attention to it at all.
00:18:18.000 And so that's why it's important to understand why China bad. 0.71
00:18:22.000 Why is this stuff bad?
00:18:24.000 It becomes like the car alarm in the parking lot that everybody after about two or three years just said, well, another car went by and their motor was pretty loud and it set off the car alarm.
00:18:33.000 Nobody looked anymore.
00:18:34.000 Nobody cared.
00:18:35.000 Well, sometimes you need to care.
00:18:36.000 Sometimes a car is being broken into.
00:18:38.000 And right now, China is a situation that we need to be paying attention to.
00:18:41.000 If not for Donald Trump being president of the United States, we probably wouldn't be focusing very much on China in any kind of way that we should be, at least.
00:18:49.000 We'd still have some focus on them, but we wouldn't be taking concrete steps.
00:18:53.000 We wouldn't be taking the threat nearly as seriously because our guys seemed to be okay with it at the time.
00:18:58.000 I don't want you to be led astray by people online, especially people that are paid to post about stuff like Jackson Hinkle.
00:19:04.000 We thought he was dead.
00:19:05.000 That frickin' cockroach came back.
00:19:07.000 And he and he was posting about China, and we're like, come on.
00:19:11.000 We hadn't seen much from this guy for a while, and I thought he just, you know, found a wife.
00:19:15.000 The last thing I want to say is you're right about Trump bringing all this to attention and doing something about it, but he's kind of trying to straddle the line too.
00:19:20.000 He calls them deepest darkest China, but will not just ban TikTok. 0.97
00:19:24.000 I know he does he does.
00:19:25.000 Which is a which is a spy apparatus for deepest darkest China. 0.91
00:19:28.000 Everybody knows it.
00:19:29.000 So we it needs to be a full committal, or we need to just, you know, kind of resign ourselves to what's going to happen.
00:19:35.000 But you can't you can't straddle the line any longer.
00:19:38.000 Okay.
00:19:38.000 Look, we know that we've gone a little long today.
00:19:40.000 We did it on purpose because we wanted to be able to dive into this China segment a little bit for you.
00:19:44.000 Let us know what you guys think about it.
00:19:45.000 But here's here's I'm not admonishing because I only get admonished.
00:19:53.000 You're faster that than anything.
00:19:54.000 Do you always have that at the ready?
00:19:56.000 Yeah.
00:19:57.000 Excellent work.
00:19:58.000 Well, you did say in uh we can't infect a alien ship with a virus, but we did it in 1996 in the movie.
00:20:04.000 Yeah.
00:20:05.000 I I know I was saying we didn't have those capabilities because we don't have Will Smith to fly the ship.
00:20:11.000 Well, we still have Will Smith.
00:20:12.000 Yeah, but he can't fly a ship.
00:20:13.000 We've got plenty of Will Smiths.
00:20:14.000 He can't fly the ship.
00:20:16.000 He did.
00:20:16.000 He can barely keep his wife from the movie beating him.
00:20:19.000 I saw it.
00:20:20.000 Yeah, I saw him do it.
00:20:21.000 Anyway.
00:20:22.000 What I was gonna say is um ice cube.
00:20:25.000 We we we love your for your support.
00:20:27.000 We thank you so much for it.
00:20:28.000 We appreciate it.
00:20:30.000 I want some really great chats.
00:20:33.000 Not just today, but every day.
00:20:34.000 Ask really great questions.
00:20:36.000 Some of you have mentioned that we pick from some of the same people sometimes.
00:20:39.000 It's because we don't always get like great questions or chats to kind of go to.
00:20:43.000 And I know that we haven't really asked you a lot of times for these chats.
00:20:47.000 Sometimes they just kind of naturally happen.
00:20:49.000 Some people ask questions, some people don't, some people just comment.
00:20:51.000 And that that's totally fine.
00:20:52.000 Do what you want to do.
00:20:53.000 But if you're interested in getting your chat read, maybe roasted a little bit at the same time.
00:20:58.000 Um, then make it good.
00:21:00.000 Like we really do want to engage.
00:21:01.000 We want to answer questions, and most of the time we want to answer questions related to what we just talked about because we honestly want to have a dialogue with you.
00:21:08.000 Like what are you what what did we just say that made you go, oh my gosh, or pfft, you guys are idiots. 0.90
00:21:14.000 What whatever it may be, you may agree or disagree, we don't really care.
00:21:16.000 It's a good dialogue to have.
00:21:18.000 So give us some good chats here.
00:21:20.000 We'll read a couple before we go, maybe two of them, and then uh and then we'll go.
00:21:23.000 So that brings us to uh chat Friday.
00:21:26.000 Chat.
00:21:30.000 All right, hit me with something good.
00:21:33.000 All right.
00:21:33.000 First chat from RDPAL.
00:21:35.000 Have we stopped selling land to China?
00:21:38.000 Insane how China owns property by sensitive US locations like nuclear plants and military bases. 0.90
00:21:43.000 Uh I know there was uh, you know, some reporting that we did that uh Tucker Carlson picked up on uh later on about the the weed farms and things like that and land.
00:21:52.000 Um I know that there were other reports about Chinese, is it Chinese companies, Chinese nationals?
00:21:56.000 Nationals owning it. 0.84
00:21:57.000 Yeah, so Chinese nationals owning land around sensitive military targets potentially around the country. 0.64
00:22:02.000 Has there been any movement on the other?
00:22:04.000 Well, there's there's been state laws in Florida and I believe now Texas and other I think a couple other red states which have put actual legislation into place for this.
00:22:14.000 Okay.
00:22:14.000 Um and I think the federal government is working on this sensitive location thing.
00:22:19.000 I don't know what that is yet, uh, to be honest with you, where that's at in the process.
00:22:23.000 I don't like that.
00:22:24.000 It needs to be done at all.
00:22:26.000 Yeah, no, I I don't like the fact that somebody can come in like especially an adversary.
00:22:30.000 Let's just say in general, yeah.
00:22:32.000 Some other, you know, some other person who's not a citizen of this country.
00:22:35.000 It's like, we'll partner with somebody here.
00:22:37.000 They'll own the land.
00:22:38.000 We'll lease it to you.
00:22:40.000 But you can't own the land.
00:22:41.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:41.000 That's our land.
00:22:42.000 You just buy it all up.
00:22:44.000 No.
00:22:44.000 Or I think what we should do is encourage China to buy more land and then screw them over with a rug pull.
00:22:50.000 They bought it and paid for it, and then we just take it back.
00:22:53.000 Sound good?
00:22:54.000 Yeah, that wouldn't damage our reputation at all.
00:22:56.000 No, at a certain point you don't care though.
00:22:58.000 When they invade Taiwan, it's like you lose all your land.
00:23:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:23:01.000 I mean, that would be a good thing.
00:23:02.000 We'll have that chip to be able to pull from.
00:23:03.000 All right, next chat.
00:23:04.000 All right.
00:23:05.000 Uh one more or this this last one.
00:23:07.000 Let's do two more. 0.99
00:23:08.000 That was quick.
00:23:09.000 Okay, cool.
00:23:09.000 Uh next chat, then for Lane uh from Manadnock.
00:23:14.000 My impression of Taiwan is that they can keep off China by holding their own industry hostage. 0.51
00:23:19.000 You invade, we destroy it. 0.98
00:23:20.000 Is this correct?
00:23:21.000 Uh no, I mean no.
00:23:25.000 Yes and no, because yet they can.
00:23:27.000 And obviously TSMC would be a major prize for China to occupy, but it's not like China has the engineers to operate that anyway.
00:23:34.000 They don't.
00:23:35.000 But they'll just conscript the people that were there and threaten their families, hopefully. 0.73
00:23:38.000 In their eyes, not hopefully in mine.
00:23:39.000 When we think of the defense of Taiwan, we always frame it in the terms of, well, we're chip dependent upon them, so we need to do that because the TSMC has like 90% market share and advanced chips or whatever.
00:23:48.000 True.
00:23:49.000 But it's way bigger than just kind of reducing them to a chip factory.
00:23:53.000 Right.
00:23:53.000 It is uh symbolic in a lot of ways, uh, because it would it represents our credibility to our allies if we can defend if we'll come to the defense of them.
00:24:01.000 And it also gives China sort of free operation into the open ocean by getting past that island chain.
00:24:08.000 Right.
00:24:08.000 So it represents a lot more to China than just the chip factory.
00:24:12.000 And it should represent a lot more to our you know, strategist also than just the chip factory.
00:24:18.000 TSMC is a huge part of it.
00:24:20.000 And if China did take the island, I would recommend we blow up TSMC.
00:24:23.000 Yes, it's got to be a part of the plan.
00:24:25.000 Which is something like uh L. Like at the end of Fight Club, like stuff just starts blowing up all around if they get too close.
00:24:30.000 It's a it's a piece of the puzzle, but you can still see the puzzle if a couple pieces are missing, if that makes sense.
00:24:35.000 Okay.
00:24:35.000 Last chat.
00:24:35.000 Let's do it.
00:24:36.000 All right, last chat.
00:24:37.000 Let's get a good one to send us into the weekend.
00:24:39.000 Last chat for the show.
00:24:40.000 It's a new color at Crowder Shop.com.
00:24:42.000 I'm just kidding.
00:24:43.000 Last chat for more color is my thing.
00:24:47.000 I didn't know it was I didn't know it was any different.
00:24:50.000 It's like you brought me two Navy shirts.
00:24:52.000 Buy things from the crowders shop. 0.98
00:24:53.000 Just kidding, don't do it.
00:24:54.000 No, it's the new color thing.
00:24:55.000 I I can't say it's a new color.
00:24:56.000 Tim's like, so you don't know that it's a new color.
00:24:58.000 I'm like, no, you're right.
00:24:59.000 Somebody had to tell me that it was a new color.
00:25:00.000 Yes, Josh told you at the beginning, thank you.
00:25:02.000 Everything's gray.
00:25:03.000 All right.
00:25:03.000 Final chat from Morticia Adams.
00:25:05.000 Question Do you see a good future for U.S. capabilities in space within the next two years to fend off threats from China?
00:25:12.000 Hmm.
00:25:13.000 Um I'm not the best person to answer the space question other than to give like a general answer.
00:25:19.000 I think what we're seeing right now in the United States is is very good as far as it relate relating to space and our ability to kind of maintain an edge because we're seeing private industry start to take some of the lead there.
00:25:32.000 Um and I know that that's going to be messy, but we're doing things relative to space that we've never dreamed possible, right?
00:25:40.000 And we have people that are thinking big, that are dreaming big, and we are the place to be able to accomplish something like this.
00:25:45.000 Yes, you can marshal resources in an economy where you can basically just say, hey, we're gonna throw all the money, all the science behind this, we're gonna fund this thing, and we're gonna get something done.
00:25:53.000 I that that's been done before, I get it.
00:25:55.000 We've had a space race with the Russians. 0.99
00:25:57.000 The United States to some degree did that as well, right?
00:26:00.000 But that kind of played itself out because you can't sustain that forever.
00:26:03.000 Now with private industry coming in and seeing some kind of future in exploring the opportunities of uh being able to take more into space, obviously, whether it be like Starlink or something like that, or space tourism, that at least starts to sow the seeds of hey, we need to be investing in this.
00:26:18.000 We need to be thinking about this because space hasn't been cool for a very long time.
00:26:22.000 When I was a kid growing up, like going to space camp is something that I saw like on Punky Brewster or whatever the show was, where you would always hear about this, and there were movies that had space camp stuff related to it, and space was super cool, everything was awesome.
00:26:34.000 And then it just kind of died out, right?
00:26:36.000 After the Challenger explosion, you you kind of started to see it fall off, and then after um the last shuttle to to explode, I can't remember what it was, uh the name of it.
00:26:45.000 Um it basically it just wasn't something we talked about anymore.
00:26:49.000 But now there's a renewed interest, and I think it's coming from the right side of the ledger on this, where it's partnerships with the government and private space companies that are trying to develop technology to be able to take us into space And to go further, like obviously Elon Musk wants to colonize Mars.
00:27:03.000 You know, he's got he's got some goals.
00:27:04.000 Yeah, when it comes to military application, we just like the Soviets did with us, we can't just afford to keep spending more and more money and get in some sort of arms race with China because it's not going to work. 0.74
00:27:13.000 That's why I like that it's a partnership with private companies that have their own incentives to develop technology.
00:27:18.000 Sure.
00:27:18.000 And I mean, the military application of these space-based systems is important.
00:27:23.000 And if you look at anybody, any thinker, they're saying, yeah, a lot of our resources that we do spend need to be marshaled towards things like AI and towards space-based technology.
00:27:32.000 So I don't know how much they're doing of that.
00:27:34.000 I haven't looked into the details, but to the question uh that was asked, I think a lot of the government officials have come to the same conclusion that that's where a lot of our money needs to be invested to be competitive in the future with the Chinese people.
00:27:46.000 Yes.
00:27:47.000 And it was the Columbia in 2003.
00:27:51.000 I know that was quite a while ago, but yeah, I I just I mean, tell me what you guys think in the chat.
00:27:55.000 We'll we'll we'll talk about it maybe after the show.
00:27:57.000 But I I know that there was just this huge interest and it just kind of it just kind of went away.
00:28:01.000 I don't know why.
00:28:02.000 Space just wasn't nearly as cool.
00:28:04.000 Maybe because we weren't doing as many new big things as we were before.