Louder with Crowder - February 27, 2026


Iran War Imminent? Negotiations Breakdown and Citizens Told to Leave Today


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 10 minutes

Words per Minute

159.8062

Word Count

11,269

Sentence Count

1,069


Summary


Transcript

00:03:34.000 We are sending my motion to bed.
00:03:44.000 We are sending on the patient.
00:04:31.000 Love the flow.
00:04:36.000 69.
00:04:38.000 Now it's time for new, believable people.
00:04:42.000 And we must do it.
00:04:44.000 If we don't control insiders, this will be over and over.
00:04:49.000 To lead it by an eddy.
00:04:51.000 Big, fat.
00:04:52.000 Love flying common ground to hold the spread of lies.
00:04:57.000 And we must do it.
00:04:58.000 Big, fat.
00:04:59.000 Love find common ground to hold the spread of lies.
00:05:05.000 And any America first.
00:05:08.000 America first.
00:05:11.000 We want to build a much better, believable people.
00:05:15.000 And we must do it.
00:05:17.000 Non-fatal.
00:05:18.000 Communication very much higher.
00:05:21.000 America first.
00:05:22.000 To lead it by an eddy.
00:05:24.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:05:26.000 Time to stop.
00:05:28.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:05:30.000 More of insiders fighting for insiders.
00:05:34.000 Time to stop.
00:05:35.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:05:38.000 America first.
00:05:39.000 Love the flow.
00:05:43.000 69.
00:05:45.000 Now it's time for new, believable people.
00:05:49.000 And we must do it.
00:05:50.000 If we don't control insiders, this will be over and over.
00:05:55.000 To lead it by an eddy.
00:05:57.000 Big, fat.
00:05:58.000 Love flying common ground to hold the spread of lies.
00:06:03.000 And we must do it.
00:06:04.000 Big, fat.
00:06:06.000 Love flying common ground to hold the spread of lies.
00:06:11.000 And any America first.
00:06:14.000 America first.
00:06:16.000 Nanny non-fatal.
00:06:18.000 We want to build a much better, believable people.
00:06:22.000 And we must do it.
00:06:23.000 Non-fatal.
00:06:25.000 Communication very much higher.
00:06:27.000 America first.
00:06:29.000 To lead it by an eddy.
00:06:31.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:06:33.000 Time to stop.
00:06:34.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:06:37.000 More of insiders fighting for insiders.
00:06:40.000 Time to stop.
00:06:42.000 Insiders fighting for insiders.
00:06:44.000 America first.
00:06:47.000 I hope everything turns out okay.
00:07:03.000 Yep, we got all the money in the cash register.
00:07:06.000 And Mr. Dumpinger, Covener, Covener, Covenant, and Mr. Covenant.
00:07:12.000 Covenant, Covenanter, Covenanter, Covenant.
00:07:16.000 Covenant, Covenanter, Covenant, and Mr. Covener.
00:07:21.000 Covenant, Covener, Covenant, Dumb Dump, Tumbo Covenant, Mr. Duncan.
00:07:25.000 Covenant, take it, Frank Covington, Covenant, and Mr. Covener.
00:07:29.000 I have one.
00:07:30.000 Covenant takes it, Frank Covinger.
00:07:32.000 Covenant, Dunk Dump, Tum Covenant, Mr. Dunk.
00:07:34.000 Covenant, take it, Frank Covinger, Tucker Quinn.
00:07:38.000 Covenant, take it, Frank, Coffee, Covenant.
00:07:41.000 Hold it right there.
00:07:44.000 Mr. Duncan is my own money has father meant where it's in kitten dollar shirt, a TV where the market trees, you to give money, Mr. Duncan is my own money spot in me.
00:07:55.000 I've won where we've seen Kitten Dow shirt, a TV, yeah Mr. Duncan is my own money spot in mel shirt, Alley trees.
00:08:08.000 Yeah, Mr. Duncan, is my own money spotted me.
00:08:12.000 I have one for a machine to be rid of more power.
00:08:33.000 Mr. Dockman, don't say the way.
00:08:47.000 And Mister Dumping turkey, the pet jerky, the dopping church.
00:08:52.000 Mr. Duncom, take it by dopping guns.
00:08:55.000 And Mr. Dumping Dumping Dumping, Dumping.
00:09:01.000 Mr. Duncom, take it by Coffin, I go queue and turn.
00:09:04.000 And Mr. Dumping Frank Covencher.
00:09:11.000 Mr. Dumpin is my own money spotted me.
00:09:13.000 I have one, a TV Spoogeon.
00:09:23.000 We'll be right back.
00:09:33.000 One more time.
00:09:46.000 Fire, dear.
00:09:48.000 I specialize in the education and entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment. Of entertainment.
00:10:02.000 And the sun?
00:10:05.000 Could you make me want to showtime?
00:10:08.000 used to lose see I run taggers for you taggers for you I know you're used to Lucy, but I run goo pop pop pumps.
00:10:22.000 And no, I know you're used to Lucy, I know you're used to Lucy, but I run surprise hip hop bebop dance till you're drop hip hop pee bob doesn't mean that they don't love hip-hop dance till you drop hip hop pee bob.
00:10:51.000 Just a little bit of nicotine clean on your sugar matinee doesn't mean that they don't love you.
00:11:21.000 But I run daggers for you.
00:11:23.000 I'm in charge for you.
00:11:25.000 I know you're used to Lucy, But I run goo pop pop popsum.
00:11:35.000 Such a shot, such a shot
00:12:41.000 know if you're used to Lucy, but I'm running such a shot, such a shine.
00:12:48.000 I know you're used to Lucy, but I'm running.
00:13:00.000 You call beep up, they don't love.
00:13:03.000 You cop, bebop, dance till you're trumped.
00:13:07.000 You call beep-bop, and the song just a little bit of mica tea.
00:13:13.000 Just a little bit of mica tea.
00:13:15.000 Cream your sugar knife.
00:13:20.000 Doesn't mean that they don't love you.
00:13:24.000 Well, that's all for today.
00:13:27.000 Bye-bye.
00:14:00.000 I like your form.
00:14:01.000 So I'm walking out, Campbell.
00:14:03.000 I'm here 10.
00:14:04.000 I'm here 10 just to kill you.
00:14:07.000 It's 50 years a long time.
00:14:10.000 I'm here 10 times.
00:14:13.000 We can drink, go to sleep.
00:14:16.000 No, we can do.
00:14:18.000 I can't quit miss.
00:14:20.000 We can drink, go to sleep.
00:14:22.000 No, we can do.
00:14:24.000 I can't play.
00:14:40.000 It's a good one.
00:14:46.000 Damn it, Josephine.
00:14:48.000 I've told you a hundred times his name is now D-Day because he penetrates the bunkers of the women.
00:14:56.000 And I'm opening his mind to comedy stylings of one Steven Crowder.
00:15:01.000 All right?
00:15:02.000 I told you not to spend any more money on that damn show, though.
00:15:06.000 I'll spend my disability money however I damn well please.
00:15:09.000 How about that, Josephine?
00:15:10.000 Anyway, like I was saying, that's why you want to carry a good hunting knife.
00:15:15.000 You never know when you're going to need dress roadkill.
00:15:17.000 Let's just enjoy the program and ignore the stylings of one Josephine.
00:15:23.000 Yo, who's that fat dude with a beard?
00:15:25.000 That's Joshua Firestar.
00:15:27.000 Hell of an actor.
00:15:28.000 Hell of an actor.
00:15:29.000 But Steven is the diamond you want to watch shining Monday through Friday at 11 a.m. Eastern.
00:15:35.000 Joshua holds his own, but I think there's a reason his name's on the sign.
00:15:40.000 So they just talk about the news and stuff like that?
00:15:42.000 No.
00:15:44.000 No, that's a gross oversimplification.
00:15:46.000 They foray into many topics, including both political and social, with a hefty dose of entertainment.
00:15:54.000 All right.
00:15:54.000 All right.
00:15:55.000 And this Firestein dude is supposed to be the funny one.
00:15:57.000 Yeah, he's pretty funny.
00:15:59.000 He's pretty funny, but we all know Crowder is the funniest one on the show.
00:16:03.000 I don't know, dog.
00:16:04.000 Looks like he's being outshined by that Josh Duel.
00:16:07.000 You know what I mean?
00:16:07.000 I do not know what you mean.
00:16:10.000 I don't think anyone would understand what you mean.
00:16:14.000 Are we watching the same show?
00:16:15.000 He does the voices.
00:16:17.000 Crowder makes the faces.
00:16:19.000 He makes the best references.
00:16:20.000 See, that there was a deep cut.
00:16:22.000 He leads the show.
00:16:25.000 He's the leader.
00:16:26.000 I don't know.
00:16:27.000 Seems a little insecure to me, dog.
00:16:29.000 Yo, who that gay old dude is?
00:16:31.000 Oh, that's Gary Morgan.
00:16:32.000 He's the second chair of the show.
00:16:37.000 It kind of sucks.
00:16:38.000 That's.
00:16:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:16:40.000 But you're getting it now.
00:16:41.000 See, that's the universe.
00:16:42.000 They have their own.
00:16:43.000 You're getting into the flow of the show.
00:16:45.000 Does he urine bed too?
00:16:48.000 Damn it, Josephine.
00:16:49.000 That only happened four times.
00:16:51.000 And you know I had too much to drink.
00:16:53.000 Heck, you bought the beer.
00:16:55.000 Are you blaming me, Colton?
00:16:57.000 My fault.
00:16:58.000 All the problems in my life, Josephine, there is one single common denominator, and that's your mumu covered ass.
00:17:07.000 So yes, I am holding you accountable.
00:17:11.000 Try being an adult for once in your life.
00:17:13.000 Take responsibility.
00:17:16.000 Hey, Colin.
00:17:18.000 What?
00:17:19.000 F you.
00:17:30.000 Click Rumble Premium and join now for $99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad-free experience and an ever-expanding roster of content, creators, and free speech.
00:17:44.000 For today.
00:18:01.000 Glad to be with you.
00:18:03.000 Feel good, Daryl?
00:18:04.000 I feel fantastic.
00:18:04.000 I do.
00:18:05.000 There was plenty to go around from Colton and D-Day.
00:18:05.000 Hey, come on.
00:18:07.000 Yeah, we all, we all got called gay old guys.
00:18:11.000 We appreciate his viewership.
00:18:12.000 Yes, we do.
00:18:13.000 Glad to be with you.
00:18:14.000 Hey, you guys know Friday is usually just for OG Mug Club Rumble Premium members, but it's a special Friday today because God only knows if this weekend some things pop off with Iran.
00:18:26.000 So we want to go wide and discuss this with you today because there's a lot of misinformation out there.
00:18:32.000 And I think we need to frame in this conversation if we're looking at a potential large-scale conflict.
00:18:38.000 Also, a friend of the show, Rachel Wilson, was on Joe Rogan yesterday.
00:18:40.000 I think she just became the preeminent voice on the true history of suffrage, of the suffragettes, of feminism.
00:18:49.000 And I highly recommend you go watch it.
00:18:50.000 And we also actually have a debate course that I worked on with the Wilsons that we'll be finally launching, I guess, today.
00:18:56.000 Or pre-orders.
00:18:57.000 And Christian Stewart sucks.
00:18:58.000 Quick question.
00:19:02.000 No, I'm not going to get into whether we should start bombing Iran, but is Iran a bad country or is it like the worst country?
00:19:10.000 Yeah, those are the only options.
00:19:12.000 You let me know.
00:19:12.000 Yeah.
00:19:13.000 On a scale from one to Iran, how bad is Iran?
00:19:18.000 Doesn't mean that we need to waste our firepower, just to be clear.
00:19:21.000 It'll be, you know, the favorite word of the left.
00:19:21.000 We'll talk about that.
00:19:24.000 Nuanced, which usually just means you're a big puss and you don't actually want to take a stand.
00:19:28.000 But there are a few different facets to discuss.
00:19:30.000 Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?
00:19:33.000 Better now that I've had a minute since the ad ran to recover.
00:19:36.000 Well, I'm not ad, but you're probably doing better than I was before the show.
00:19:39.000 Look, I'll just let you guys know: I had a very bizarre, I think it happened because I took some ibuprofen before this on an empty stomach, a shooting gas pain where I was like, I don't know if I'm able to do the show.
00:19:51.000 And then, by the way, Friday, Saturday, March 20th, 21st, Mr. Josh Firestein was here.
00:19:56.000 He said, you know what?
00:19:57.000 You have to do the wind pose.
00:19:59.000 That's what I believe.
00:20:00.000 And so I got on the floor and I did this pose.
00:20:02.000 It apparently helps with digestion.
00:20:04.000 But it resembles as though you are presenting yourself and noodles were right in to fold you.
00:20:11.000 You know, you just walked in and went, okay.
00:20:17.000 Accurate.
00:20:19.000 So we have a lot to get to, but first, it's time to honor, by the way, last time.
00:20:24.000 The most cherished.
00:20:25.000 Yeah, last time.
00:20:26.000 It's a short month.
00:20:26.000 Thank God.
00:20:27.000 Ever?
00:20:28.000 No, not ever.
00:20:29.000 One can hope to.
00:20:30.000 I mean, you can keep the spirit of Black History Month in your heart all year long.
00:20:36.000 The holiday season comes once a year, but it does come every year.
00:20:40.000 Especially if you're on parole.
00:20:43.000 Fast facts.
00:20:45.000 In 1969, the Black Panther Party started a free breakfast program for children.
00:20:50.000 Oh, all children?
00:20:52.000 I don't know.
00:20:53.000 I bet you included some Aunt Jemima.
00:20:54.000 2018's Black Panther movie was the first superhero movie to be nominated for Best Picture.
00:21:01.000 That was happenstance.
00:21:03.000 No, no, it's clearly the best superhero movie ever made.
00:21:05.000 Black Panther.
00:21:06.000 Nothing else even comes close.
00:21:07.000 Dark Knight?
00:21:08.000 Nothing.
00:21:09.000 No, no, no, no.
00:21:10.000 Black Panther.
00:21:11.000 Spears on top of Tesla's.
00:21:14.000 It's true.
00:21:15.000 Bad accents, by the way.
00:21:16.000 In 1983, Guy Bluford Jr. became the first black American in space.
00:21:36.000 Yep, also admitted the space jacking.
00:21:38.000 This has been the end of Black History Month.
00:21:42.000 No rims on that one, too.
00:21:48.000 Spacejacking.
00:21:51.000 You're a silly person.
00:21:53.000 Houston, there goes the neighborhood.
00:21:55.000 Now, have you seen Houston, though?
00:21:58.000 It's true.
00:21:59.000 It's true.
00:22:00.000 Wait until he finds Palestinians on the moon.
00:22:02.000 All right, we are going to get to Iran.
00:22:03.000 We are going to get to Rich Wilson on Joe Rogan's show and potentially a sex offender running for city council who, well, it's a sex offender running for city council.
00:22:13.000 I mean, I don't know what else you want to know, but there's more to the story that the media is not covering.
00:22:16.000 Depends on how much time we have today.
00:22:18.000 First, though, Kristen Stewart, Kristen, not Kirsten, they have a thing about that.
00:22:22.000 Kristen Stewart gave her take on, I think, immigrants, something about Los Angeles.
00:22:32.000 Here's the thing: I watched it three times.
00:22:37.000 I still don't know what she's trying to say, but I think that's because she's retarded.
00:22:43.000 Let's watch.
00:22:44.000 Immigrants.
00:22:45.000 I can't stand immigrants.
00:22:48.000 What would break your heart if it disappeared from LA?
00:22:51.000 I've got to have a hand in making me who I am, which is so meaningless in the face of people's lives being completely unearthed, uprooted, destroyed.
00:23:00.000 Like just the vice.
00:23:01.000 This is not who we are.
00:23:02.000 So who are you wearing?
00:23:04.000 Where I'm from, I don't identify with that right now.
00:23:08.000 And so I definitely am dying every day thinking, so do we make movies about this?
00:23:13.000 Do we throw all of our money at it?
00:23:15.000 Do we stop buying burgers in the daytime?
00:23:18.000 What do we do about this?
00:23:19.000 Like, I can't fathom that it's happening until it doesn't happen.
00:23:25.000 It's like Los Angeles doesn't exist without all of us.
00:23:32.000 No more burgers in the daytime.
00:23:35.000 Is she promoting her latest Twilight movie?
00:23:39.000 Oh.
00:23:43.000 That was real.
00:23:44.000 Stephen feels better.
00:23:45.000 So I tried to see if anyone else could interpret someone else could interpret this so that it makes sense.
00:23:53.000 Architectural Digest, they summarized her comments.
00:23:56.000 Kristen Stewart reflects on the heart of the city, the culture and communities that shape it, and reminds us what makes LA truly irreplaceable.
00:24:05.000 What?
00:24:07.000 Okay.
00:24:08.000 Can anyone give me just like a trail of breadcrumbs?
00:24:12.000 Burgers in the daytime?
00:24:14.000 Why would you stop buying burgers in the daytime?
00:24:16.000 What does that have to do with deporting illegal aliens?
00:24:19.000 Does she mean that if we stop buying burgers in I still don't have an answer?
00:24:24.000 Like I'm trying.
00:24:25.000 Does anyone understand it?
00:24:26.000 Do we throw all of our money at it?
00:24:28.000 Do we make a movie?
00:24:29.000 Does she mean, does she mean to say, do rich people throw all their money at me to make a movie so that someone will make a movie with me again?
00:24:37.000 Yeah.
00:24:37.000 I don't understand.
00:24:38.000 I really don't.
00:24:40.000 It's one of those, like, I. Also, it still exists if you're gone.
00:24:43.000 That's how, you know, Earth works.
00:24:45.000 That's the thing.
00:24:46.000 She's like a child.
00:24:47.000 She is like a baby.
00:24:48.000 And let me make the case here because you know when you play peekaboo with a baby, I don't know if you know what's happening.
00:24:52.000 Oh, where'd you go?
00:24:53.000 Yeah, their brain isn't fully developed.
00:24:54.000 They think you have actually disappeared from Earth.
00:24:57.000 So I think she thinks that if she's not buying a hot dog at Pink's, it doesn't exist.
00:25:02.000 That's my only interpretation.
00:25:05.000 Usually I'm able to sort of, okay, let me walk through this logically.
00:25:08.000 And this just shows you, like, here's the thing.
00:25:11.000 These people are generally good looking.
00:25:14.000 Billy Ray Cyrus' haircut not included here.
00:25:17.000 They're good looking.
00:25:18.000 They can't take credit for God's work.
00:25:20.000 They're good at reciting lines.
00:25:22.000 They have never, ever had to go through the portion of life that you had to navigate where they learned new things and had to think about them critically.
00:25:32.000 And I know that's cliché for people to say, shut up and act, shut up and sing.
00:25:37.000 It's different from someone who maybe is a writer.
00:25:39.000 It's different for somebody who maybe is a historian.
00:25:43.000 It's different for someone who maybe is a celebrity who created a really big business or is an investor.
00:25:48.000 Someone like her has nothing to offer the world other than reading lines that somebody else wrote.
00:25:56.000 That's why we don't want your opinions.
00:25:59.000 Truthfully, your mechanic is more qualified to give you opinions on anything worldly than Kristen Stewart.
00:26:07.000 It's nonsensical.
00:26:09.000 The problem that we run into is these people who are so nonsensical still have a disproportionate level of influence.
00:26:18.000 There still are people who listen to them.
00:26:20.000 The only reason that that woman is a role model to anyone or at any point as she was during Twilight is because she's on screen.
00:26:26.000 We need to fundamentally change that culture because, and I'm not saying that retards can't be role models.
00:26:32.000 That's not what I'm saying.
00:26:33.000 I'm just saying that she can't.
00:26:35.000 Just specific ones.
00:26:36.000 This specific one.
00:26:37.000 Exactly.
00:26:38.000 And by the way, if you needed any proof, it's not that her opinion is incorrect.
00:26:40.000 It's that she said we wanted to get rid of immigrants.
00:26:43.000 Is anybody making that argument right now that we want to get rid of all immigrants?
00:26:46.000 No, I think it's the ones that are here illegally and the rapists and murderers and people in prison.
00:26:49.000 Yeah, so you're a moron.
00:26:51.000 But even then, let's assume that we know that she's trying to do the wordplay.
00:26:54.000 How do you get to not buying burgers in the daytime?
00:26:56.000 Can anyone?
00:26:57.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:26:58.000 Well, she's lying.
00:26:58.000 She's trying to come up with these things as she's going because she is lying.
00:27:01.000 The question was: what is one thing that you couldn't live without if LA, if it was removed from LA?
00:27:05.000 And the real answer for her is Jews.
00:27:08.000 Right.
00:27:10.000 She'd be screwed.
00:27:11.000 Jews and, you know, leather couches.
00:27:11.000 Wow.
00:27:14.000 Yeah.
00:27:15.000 Yeah.
00:27:15.000 I think she got a good start there.
00:27:17.000 All right.
00:27:17.000 Yep.
00:27:18.000 Well, that was rude.
00:27:19.000 No, it wasn't.
00:27:20.000 All right.
00:27:21.000 Let's move on to a real lady, someone who's actually accomplished something.
00:27:25.000 And look, full disclosure, friends of the show have become friends with them recently, having had them on the show.
00:27:31.000 And you're probably familiar with Andrew Wilson.
00:27:34.000 Rachel Wilson is incredibly well read on the history of feminism.
00:27:40.000 And she just appeared on the Joe Rogan show last night.
00:27:43.000 And you could tell that Joe Rogan was really sitting and he was just captivated because he was hearing some things that he had never really heard before.
00:27:51.000 She was expounding on some of the things that were discussed in her book, which, by the way, I highly like her.
00:27:55.000 It's Occult Feminism, The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
00:27:59.000 I highly recommend it.
00:28:00.000 It's a very short read.
00:28:02.000 You can do the audio book, but it's worth it.
00:28:04.000 It seems like one of those things that's clickbait, but it's not.
00:28:07.000 She sources it meticulously.
00:28:09.000 So she was on Joe Rogan's show.
00:28:11.000 And I will tell you this.
00:28:13.000 I had, back in the day, there was a lady named Karen Strawn.
00:28:15.000 You can go back and see some interviews with her maybe in 2014.
00:28:19.000 She really not only influenced me, but informed me on women's suffrage, on women getting the right to vote, and why it was a scam from the get-go.
00:28:27.000 And I remember, let me ask you this.
00:28:29.000 Do you guys ever have those numbers, stats, historical facts that you hear, you verify that they're true, but they're so difficult to believe because of how you've been conditioned that you have to consistently go back to them?
00:28:44.000 I get that all the time.
00:28:46.000 I used to get that with Donald Trump, you know, closing down the border like 95% reductions in border crossings.
00:28:52.000 I'm like, there's no way that's possible.
00:28:53.000 There's no way that could happen in a year.
00:28:55.000 I know it to be true, but it's hard.
00:28:57.000 That's why you can't always trust your gut.
00:28:59.000 Same thing happened with me, I think, in 2014 when I learned that the overwhelming majority of women did not want the vote.
00:29:09.000 It was hugely unpopular, which brings us to the first clip of Rachel Wilson on Joe Rogan's show.
00:29:14.000 I would think, okay, well, I think women should have the right to vote.
00:29:17.000 They're human beings.
00:29:18.000 They live here.
00:29:19.000 There's laws that are being going.
00:29:20.000 Women really didn't want to be involved in politics.
00:29:23.000 They let them vote on whether they wanted the vote in a huge, the biggest referendum was in Massachusetts.
00:29:29.000 So they let women vote on whether they wanted the vote in a referendum.
00:29:34.000 Of the women that showed up, not a lot of them showed up.
00:29:36.000 It was a fairly smallish number, but of the thousands that showed up to vote, only 4% wanted suffrage on the ballot.
00:29:45.000 That's crazy.
00:29:46.000 Only 4%.
00:29:47.000 So guess what Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony did after that?
00:29:51.000 All the pro-suffrage leaders, they banned women from voting on whether they wanted the vote.
00:29:58.000 Oh, my God.
00:30:00.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:30:03.000 Yeah.
00:30:04.000 And then men gave women the right to vote.
00:30:06.000 That's right.
00:30:07.000 Think about that for a second.
00:30:08.000 Now, that's a small study.
00:30:09.000 We've given you numbers in the past where it's anywhere from 70 to 80 something percent if you try and take the totality of data as far as women who were against the vote.
00:30:18.000 She explains why that was the case.
00:30:20.000 I've gotten into that, but you do need to know that top line number.
00:30:23.000 The overwhelming majority of women did not want the vote because of what it came with, because they felt that they had influence and because they didn't want women to be ruined through the process of politics.
00:30:34.000 And they thought they would lose some influence and leverage.
00:30:38.000 And here's something else.
00:30:39.000 This transitions to, okay, so that's the case.
00:30:41.000 But people will say it's a good thing that they have the vote.
00:30:44.000 And feminism, right, has been a good thing overall.
00:30:47.000 Choice.
00:30:48.000 Who could be against choice?
00:30:50.000 Well, Rachel got into that, and I think articulated this pretty well.
00:30:53.000 Most women would choose to be stay-at-home moms, something that feminists proactively try to, they denied the vote for the vote.
00:31:03.000 They also wanted to prevent women from having the option to stay home.
00:31:07.000 So women right now, if you say, well, I can't have it all, I have to make a choice.
00:31:11.000 You can thank feminists who wanted to ensure that you couldn't stay home with your kids, but you'd outsource that.
00:31:17.000 You asked me, like, Do women really want to be in the workplace, or are they only kind of really choosing?
00:31:23.000 That's a giant generalization, anyway.
00:31:25.000 Right, of course it is.
00:31:26.000 Obviously, some women do and some women don't.
00:31:29.000 And there's a lot of women who naturally maternally want to have children and want to have a family.
00:31:33.000 Simone de Beauvoir, the arguably the biggest feminist of second wave, the French intellectual who was buddies with Jean-Paul Sartre and they got in trouble for grooming underage kids and seducing them and all kinds of crazy stuff.
00:31:47.000 But she's respected as the greatest feminist intellectual of the 20th century and she was super influential.
00:31:52.000 And in a 1970s interview with Betty Friedan, she said, I don't believe that society should give women the opportunity or the choice to stay home and be mothers, because if we do, they're all going to pick that.
00:32:05.000 And I don't think it should be an option.
00:32:07.000 So it was the view of the feminists that, yeah, and Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton said that.
00:32:15.000 They said, we would have never passed suffrage had it not been for men.
00:32:20.000 If it was ever left up to women alone, we would have never passed suffrage.
00:32:24.000 They would have never gone for it.
00:32:25.000 They don't want liberation.
00:32:27.000 And I really hope that if you're watching this, and I know we have plenty of women who watch, but I hope that you sit down and watch this with your wife or your significant other if you're a man, because there are some truths that are really uncomfortable.
00:32:41.000 And that's something we need to break through.
00:32:43.000 If we have this conversation, go, you know, actually, the 19th may have been a mistake in a lot of ways.
00:32:49.000 People go, whoa, whoa, whoa, you must be a showman.
00:32:51.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:32:52.000 And actually, not just third wave feminism.
00:32:55.000 All feminism may have been not just a mistake, but a very evilly influenced movement.
00:33:03.000 And it's antithetical to all forms of true Christianity when you understand its roots.
00:33:10.000 It's an uncomfortable conversation to have.
00:33:12.000 It's kind of a third rail, but we got to be honest about it.
00:33:16.000 And that's why I think this conversation was incredibly valuable.
00:33:19.000 And I do think that it's going to become a reference piece.
00:33:21.000 Here's another one.
00:33:22.000 Rachel talks about this.
00:33:23.000 You've heard me discuss this.
00:33:24.000 You've heard me cite those people, by the way, and change my mind.
00:33:26.000 Simone de Beauvoir was sort of the godmother of modern gender theory, though it still existed within a binary before we got to John Money and all these things.
00:33:35.000 Rachel goes on to talk about how feminists like Margaret Sanger, who I've discussed, and Nazis, kind of one and the same, they were eugenicists.
00:33:43.000 And they decided to make a part of that eugenics plan, not just abortion.
00:33:49.000 We all talk about that.
00:33:50.000 But birth control may be a blind spot for a lot of people.
00:33:53.000 She was getting paid by the Rockefeller Foundation and promoted by people like H.G. Wells, who she was also having an affair with.
00:34:01.000 They're all a bunch of creepers, Joe.
00:34:03.000 He was a eugenicist who loved the idea of millions of abortions a year.
00:34:03.000 I'm telling you.
00:34:07.000 H.G. Wells, the war of the worlds guy, was a eugenicist.
00:34:11.000 Yep.
00:34:11.000 Feminism was instrumental in that.
00:34:13.000 That's actually where the birth control pill came from as well.
00:34:17.000 Margaret Sanger, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Kaiser Wilhelm Foundation, and a lot of Nazi scientists are the ones who started synthesizing human hormones to make birth control pills.
00:34:28.000 And the way they sold that was they said, look, we know abortion is very unpopular.
00:34:32.000 People don't like it.
00:34:33.000 It's a very terrible thing that we have to do.
00:34:35.000 We have to do it because we don't want all these babies.
00:34:37.000 Ugh.
00:34:38.000 But, you know, if you let us have the birth control pill and you make it like widely available and socially acceptable, abortion will be a thing of the past.
00:34:48.000 Nobody will need one ever again.
00:34:49.000 That's how it was marketed and sold to the world.
00:34:52.000 And it sounds right.
00:34:53.000 It sounds reasonable.
00:34:55.000 Maybe it's better.
00:34:56.000 Maybe it's better just to prevent all the pregnancies and then we don't have to worry about abortions.
00:35:00.000 But here we are in 2026.
00:35:02.000 You can get abortion or you can get birth control pills for $4 at Walmart.
00:35:08.000 You can go down to your local health department in your county and get them for free if you're under a certain income status.
00:35:15.000 And we still have, well, at least before they overturned Roe v. Wade, we still had about a million abortions a year in this country.
00:35:21.000 Ah, and that's super important, isn't it?
00:35:24.000 We have, okay, the roots of feminism.
00:35:27.000 And she does get into the occult, by the way, and a lot of the spiritualism.
00:35:30.000 And some of it isn't necessarily evil in the way that you would think.
00:35:34.000 It's just degenerate.
00:35:35.000 And it really was sort of people selling snake oil.
00:35:38.000 They knew that they were scamming folks.
00:35:39.000 She's very good at sort of outlining that in the book.
00:35:42.000 So you have the roots of it.
00:35:43.000 All right, it's antithetical to you as a Christian.
00:35:46.000 You cannot be a Christian feminist.
00:35:48.000 It's just not a thing.
00:35:49.000 And then we look at the results.
00:35:51.000 The results are bad.
00:35:52.000 The results are worse.
00:35:54.000 Everything that women have been promised was a lie.
00:35:59.000 The results have been the opposite from feminism.
00:36:02.000 And I want to be clear.
00:36:03.000 This is not, this is not just third wave feminism from its inception.
00:36:08.000 And that was the goal.
00:36:10.000 And that's because feminism is definitively, this is objectively true.
00:36:14.000 It's a subset of Marxist ideology that was part of the Marxist playbook, right?
00:36:19.000 Divide and conquer.
00:36:20.000 You're not going to have the numbers unless you break up the family and you have women becoming nagging harpies, to be clear.
00:36:30.000 And I will tell you this, you know, I don't really take part.
00:36:33.000 We do this show and I hope the work speaks for itself.
00:36:37.000 We provide all the references.
00:36:38.000 I don't take part in a lot of outside projects, but because I think this is important enough, they did approach me regarding a debate course specifically on feminism because I think that's a battlefront that's going to be incredibly important, especially when you look at relationship dynamics.
00:36:53.000 She mentioned it on Joe Rogan's show.
00:36:55.000 Here it is.
00:36:56.000 I'm glad you brought that up.
00:36:57.000 I just finished a huge project that I'm working on with Andrew, my excellent, has a handsome husband, and Steven Crowder, Dr. David Patrick Harry, and Rob Noor, who's a champion debater.
00:37:09.000 We put together a feminist debate course that's coming out really soon.
00:37:12.000 I think this week.
00:37:13.000 I think it drops this week.
00:37:15.000 And we go over all these myths and debunk them.
00:37:17.000 And we show people and demonstrate like how to debate this feminism thing because it's a leviathan.
00:37:23.000 It's a beast.
00:37:24.000 If you take it on, like one of the reasons I'm out here doing it is because when men try to argue against feminism or feminists, they immediately get slapped with you're a misogynist, you hate women, you're an incel, all the tropes.
00:37:36.000 You have a small dick.
00:37:37.000 What are you gay?
00:37:38.000 Like just all the insults, right?
00:37:40.000 Well, when I sit in front of them and make those arguments, you can't really just get away with that.
00:37:45.000 You have to contend with them because I'm a woman.
00:37:47.000 Right.
00:37:48.000 I mean, you could try to insult me, but it's not going to land the same as when you do that to a man.
00:37:52.000 And here's something I will say that I love about Rachel.
00:37:54.000 You'd be surprised.
00:37:56.000 Legitimately, she's the meaner one of her.
00:38:00.000 But she's not mean.
00:38:01.000 She's just very dismissive.
00:38:04.000 She'd be like, yeah, I know.
00:38:05.000 People think that, but that's not really true, is it?
00:38:07.000 And she'll set you straight.
00:38:09.000 You need people like this.
00:38:10.000 You need someone who's an actual mom who understands history.
00:38:14.000 Someone who is actually a strong woman, by the way, if you know her life story, as well as physically, she did a lot of powerlifting, discussed that with Joe Rogan.
00:38:22.000 Someone who's actually strong, who can advocate on behalf of femininity and traditional relationships.
00:38:29.000 And that's why I was moved to take part.
00:38:32.000 Look, everything I know, I included here.
00:38:34.000 They have a debate course.
00:38:36.000 You can buy it for $250 or $150 if you purchased the previous debate course, Verbal Combat.
00:38:42.000 You can go to debateuniversity.com.
00:38:44.000 It is a multi-part series.
00:38:46.000 You have installments with Andrew.
00:38:47.000 There's one with me.
00:38:48.000 There's one with Rachel that I cannot recommend enough.
00:38:51.000 Verbal Judo, How to Debate Feminism.
00:38:54.000 You don't have to be the next Julius Caesar in order to change the world.
00:38:59.000 I would say that my approach is probably more suitable if you find yourself at a dinner table because that's not always in Andrew's wheelhouse.
00:39:06.000 God love him.
00:39:07.000 I've heard the horror stories of how feminism has ruined the lives of men, women, and children right in my backyard.
00:39:13.000 Most of what the public believes about the history of women's rights is historically inaccurate at best and blatant lies and propaganda at worst.
00:39:20.000 Most people have no idea how to defend what it is that they believe.
00:39:23.000 This course exists to change that.
00:39:25.000 Take that and add to it truth.
00:39:28.000 You got a weighing formula.
00:39:30.000 You just have to not be afraid.
00:39:40.000 Yep, and there you go.
00:39:41.000 DebateUniversity.com.
00:39:43.000 Look, we talk about this, higher education, student debt, right?
00:39:46.000 It's an indoctrination factory, these institutions.
00:39:48.000 It's out of control.
00:39:50.000 So this is a way to start taking some steps to correct that.
00:39:54.000 You don't always need a degree from an Ivy League school to understand something, to be well read.
00:40:01.000 Sometimes a mechanic knows more about politics than a brain surgeon.
00:40:05.000 Sometimes a doctor knows nothing about intergender dynamics.
00:40:10.000 This, if you take this course, debateuniversity.com, so for a course that's actually very affordable, it may sound high compared to things online, you'll be equipped and you won't be caught flat-footed ever again.
00:40:19.000 We're going to try and change this and give you the tools that you need.
00:40:22.000 DebateUniversity.com.
00:40:23.000 I can't tell you how solid the Wilsons are, and I'm glad to have come to know them.
00:40:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:30.000 And so many times in chat, we get people asking us from the mug clubbers like, hey, how do we effectively communicate this?
00:40:35.000 How do I tell a friend this?
00:40:36.000 I'm going to deal with this.
00:40:37.000 How do I do?
00:40:38.000 This is how.
00:40:40.000 It's not just watching shows.
00:40:41.000 That's a great way to get equipped on stuff.
00:40:43.000 But if you really want to understand how to dissect these topics, things like this, that is how you get this done.
00:40:49.000 So please go sign up for this.
00:40:51.000 The feminism thing is something that I've been turned on to over the last probably year, year and a half.
00:40:55.000 And it's like, I just keep having aha moments about institutions I've been a part of in the past or places I've been.
00:40:59.000 And I'm like, I had no idea the influence.
00:41:01.000 Sometimes great, sometimes small, but it was there.
00:41:04.000 And it's just shocking.
00:41:05.000 So go check this out.
00:41:07.000 And I think, look, in summary, you guys come, do you think that you can be a Christian and be a feminist?
00:41:07.000 Yep.
00:41:12.000 And then go check out her book, read up on the history of it, and come back.
00:41:16.000 It doesn't mean that you can't advocate on behalf of women.
00:41:16.000 Tell me.
00:41:21.000 Nobody wants to live in a world where women are being swatted by their husbands.
00:41:25.000 Swatted, that's a different term now.
00:41:27.000 Being smacked around by their husbands and being left for a secretary.
00:41:29.000 But that's not the world that we lived in.
00:41:31.000 That's the lie you were presented with.
00:41:33.000 The world you live in now is a world where people aren't getting married.
00:41:37.000 We have a divorce rate through the roof and millions of OnlyFans who are below the age of 20.
00:41:43.000 Yeah.
00:41:43.000 It's terrible.
00:41:45.000 There you go.
00:41:46.000 And a holocaust.
00:41:48.000 A holocaust, an abortion holocaust.
00:41:50.000 That's the world we live in.
00:41:51.000 So the results objectively are bad.
00:41:54.000 It was by design from its inception.
00:41:56.000 I will just say that.
00:41:56.000 Just like people say you cannot be a pro-abortion Christian.
00:41:59.000 I think a closed-handed issue needs to be seen as just as closed-handed.
00:42:04.000 You cannot be a Christian feminist in the year 2026, and ignorance is no defense.
00:42:08.000 By the way, thank you to Dan Bongino, rated us.
00:42:11.000 So welcome, Bongino Army, coming in.
00:42:15.000 We're glad to have you.
00:42:16.000 And we're going to be talking now about Iran.
00:42:19.000 Yeah.
00:42:20.000 Isn't that fun?
00:42:21.000 It's a very fun place.
00:42:21.000 Yes, it is.
00:42:25.000 Again.
00:42:26.000 You don't need to pull back just because you thought you were drunk on that live stream.
00:42:29.000 He didn't think he was.
00:42:30.000 I was.
00:42:31.000 I didn't see.
00:42:32.000 You said you thought I was like, I was a little toasted.
00:42:35.000 And you're fine.
00:42:36.000 What do you think?
00:42:37.000 That's my fault because the drinking game rules were so effective.
00:42:39.000 It was not funny.
00:42:42.000 I haven't gone back and watched.
00:42:44.000 I called Gerald an asshole.
00:42:45.000 You did?
00:42:46.000 Yeah.
00:42:46.000 Yeah.
00:42:46.000 I mean, I was kidding around, but, you know, kind of.
00:42:49.000 That's why I thought that you might be one of those guys who's like an alcoholic where it just clears the fog because you were calling him exactly.
00:42:57.000 Maybe that's it.
00:42:58.000 Maybe that's it.
00:42:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:43:00.000 Really?
00:43:00.000 Well, I don't know.
00:43:01.000 I mean, you guys, I mean, I haven't had much to say today.
00:43:04.000 It's radio.
00:43:05.000 No, no, no.
00:43:05.000 I'm just saying, but you mentioned that yesterday.
00:43:06.000 I was like, oh, no, I had fun on that stream.
00:43:08.000 It was just the drinking game rules were rough.
00:43:11.000 On the nose.
00:43:12.000 Oh, I got a lot to say about Iran.
00:43:17.000 I don't care.
00:43:18.000 Whatever you want to call it.
00:43:19.000 It's a crappy place.
00:43:20.000 Look, here's the thing with Iran.
00:43:23.000 I want to frame this discussion in so that we aren't missing each other and we aren't simply generating an environment where it's going to be never ending in fighting.
00:43:35.000 When people say we used to be able to have civil discussions or disagreements, That's correct.
00:43:42.000 But I've also told you, it's not correct as far as with the left, for example, on abortion.
00:43:46.000 You can't actually have a discussion based on a lie as common ground that, oh, we just have, no, that's a fundamentally different worldview.
00:43:54.000 They believe the left, abortion up until and including birth on demand, period.
00:43:59.000 Okay, we cannot have what someone might call a productive disagreement on whether children can transition.
00:44:06.000 Right?
00:44:07.000 But here's the weird thing to me.
00:44:08.000 You will see people on the right being civil and crossing the aisle to link arms with those people while cannibalizing those in our movement over policy differences, for example, on Iran that would have historically been within the scope of reason entirely.
00:44:29.000 I think there is a case to be made on both sides here with Iran.
00:44:34.000 I think there have been some missteps.
00:44:36.000 I also acknowledge the threat that Iran is.
00:44:38.000 And I also need to really lay the foundation here for all of the disagreements.
00:44:43.000 Should we do something?
00:44:44.000 Should we not do anything?
00:44:46.000 Why do you think we might engage?
00:44:48.000 One thing that's paramount.
00:44:49.000 There is absolutely no betrayal taking place from Donald Trump if action is taken on Iran.
00:44:55.000 Anyone who voted for Donald Trump and believes that they are being betrayed if he bombs Iran or if he takes military action was an uninformed voter.
00:45:07.000 You need to take accountability for that.
00:45:08.000 You may disagree with them.
00:45:10.000 I have many candidates I voted for, as a matter of fact, every single one with whom I have disagreements.
00:45:16.000 But I accept it.
00:45:18.000 You may have had that with Donald Trump on Iran.
00:45:21.000 But we can go back to 2011 and he has been very, very clear that Iran cannot have a nuke and he would be strong on Iran.
00:45:28.000 Before he was running for president, he was criticizing Barack Obama's actions on Iran.
00:45:33.000 It's not him doing a 180.
00:45:35.000 You may disagree with his stance.
00:45:38.000 If he were to say, hey, we're going to deport people or we are going to secure the border and do the opposite, that would be a betrayal.
00:45:45.000 Donald Trump's bumper sticker, his slogan might as well have been, close the border, no new wars, except Iran can never have a nuke and I'll do whatever it takes.
00:45:57.000 That's a long bumper sticker.
00:45:59.000 That was a good one.
00:45:59.000 But that could have been his entire foreign policy.
00:46:02.000 Like, yeah, no new wars, you know, non-interventionism, but Iran we're keeping our eye on.
00:46:07.000 He was super clear about that.
00:46:08.000 So let me tell you where this discussion I think can be fruitful and where it can.
00:46:13.000 First off, Israel and Iran, to me, irrelevant.
00:46:18.000 Of course, Israel has a problem with Iran.
00:46:20.000 They have a vested interest in Iran being neutered.
00:46:22.000 I get that.
00:46:23.000 But let's just say Canada had nukes and ballistic missiles aimed at Israel, but they also had some aimed at the United States.
00:46:32.000 That doesn't mean that the United States is fighting a war for Israel.
00:46:35.000 If they say, Canada, we have our eyes on your nukes.
00:46:38.000 Two people can hate the same bad actor and two people can be in a conflict with them.
00:46:44.000 And it doesn't mean that they're acting on each other's behalf.
00:46:47.000 I absolutely agree with anyone who says we should not go to war for the interests of Israel.
00:46:54.000 Correct.
00:46:55.000 Okay?
00:46:56.000 We all agree on that.
00:46:57.000 Then we have to ask, okay, outside of that, is there a separate interest that the United States would have in Iran not being a nuclear power or them, frankly, not being a power broker of any kind.
00:47:09.000 So just to be clear, when you hear things like, I get it.
00:47:11.000 In other words, I get it.
00:47:12.000 When you hear things like this, Ben Shapiro saying this, it's tone deaf and it muddies the waters.
00:47:19.000 I will tell you that everyone else is watching.
00:47:21.000 If the United States backs off of this and cuts some sort of unbelievably weak deal, the consequences will not just be for the Middle East, where Israel will be forced to ramp up its military even more and probably go and attack Iran itself, given Iran's capacity and increasing capacity in both nuclear and ballistic missile development and its renewed attempts to support terrorism.
00:47:42.000 I'll take framing it the worst way humanly possible for 500, Alex.
00:47:49.000 If we don't do it, then Israel might have to.
00:47:51.000 So you're saying that we should do this so that Israel doesn't.
00:47:55.000 I'm not in agreement with that guy.
00:47:58.000 Couldn't care less if it was just a conflict with Israel and Iran.
00:48:02.000 So that brings us to point number two.
00:48:03.000 The United States and Iran.
00:48:05.000 Is it in our interest to prevent Iran from becoming some kind of a serious nuclear power?
00:48:11.000 Well, you could go down the list, go to the largest sponsor, state sponsor of terrorism.
00:48:16.000 Of course, there's that choke point next to the Strait of Hormuz, about a quarter of global oil and a fifth of natural gas go through there.
00:48:22.000 80% of Iranian oil goes to China.
00:48:24.000 There have been alleged assassination attempts and plots on U.S. leaders, including President Trump.
00:48:30.000 I would also say that President Trump put himself on the hook for the protesters, saying that if you guys kill protesters, it's going to be bad for you, which is also why I think the timing right now, this has been poorly executed if something does happen.
00:48:43.000 But it is super important, again, because I see black pillars out there going, this is a huge betrayal.
00:48:51.000 That is not a valid argument.
00:48:52.000 President Trump has been saying since at least 2011, here's 2011.
00:48:58.000 I believe this is a quote from President Trump, right?
00:49:01.000 Yes.
00:49:02.000 America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions.
00:49:07.000 Let me put them as plainly as I know how.
00:49:09.000 Iran's nuclear program must be stopped by any and all means necessary, period.
00:49:15.000 We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.
00:49:22.000 Okay, so we go, don't care about Israel and Iran.
00:49:25.000 Does the United States have its own separate conflict with Iran?
00:49:28.000 The answer is yes.
00:49:29.000 Has Donald Trump been consistent as far as a presidential candidate and a president in saying that Iran is a threat?
00:49:37.000 So the conversation really comes down to one point here.
00:49:37.000 Yes.
00:49:41.000 Is it worth it?
00:49:43.000 And what should we do given that?
00:49:46.000 So here's what I think.
00:49:47.000 A very clear case needs to be made to the American people if action is going to be taken on Iran.
00:49:54.000 Good arguments can be made on both sides.
00:49:55.000 Doesn't mean that you're a shill.
00:49:57.000 Let's go through the timeline here as to why this may be escalating right now.
00:50:01.000 I will tell you this.
00:50:02.000 I think Donald Trump backed himself into a corner by saying if you kill protesters, it's not going to be good for you.
00:50:07.000 They killed thousands of protesters.
00:50:09.000 I think that was a good time, too, by the way, as far as how the perception is of what you're doing, how other people look at it, the optics.
00:50:16.000 That would have been a great time to help.
00:50:19.000 You were laying out earlier how.
00:50:21.000 But does that make sense?
00:50:21.000 Yeah.
00:50:23.000 Let's separate that and go, okay.
00:50:25.000 And this is how we used to have conversation.
00:50:27.000 We used to have political discussions, right?
00:50:28.000 This would have been a reasonable discussion for people to say, all right, okay, look, Maduro, all right, now Iran.
00:50:35.000 Are we at a point where something needs to be done?
00:50:38.000 And any bad actor, if you look throughout human history, it really just comes down to an inflection point.
00:50:44.000 It just comes down to have they gone far enough where it requires someone stepping in.
00:50:50.000 Has Iran?
00:50:53.000 I don't have a definitive answer, and I don't think anybody does because the communication has been bad.
00:50:58.000 But there certainly is a point in time where I think we would all have to acknowledge that.
00:51:03.000 It really just comes down to a judgment call.
00:51:04.000 Have they reached that right now?
00:51:06.000 So on February 19th, President Trump told reporters that Iran had 10 to 15 days to make a deal or very bad things would happen.
00:51:11.000 Keep in mind, this was pre-negotiations.
00:51:14.000 So this was clearly a way to generate leverage.
00:51:22.000 I'm not going to talk to you about that.
00:51:28.000 We're going to either make a deal or we're going to get a deal one way or the other.
00:51:31.000 But when the military is quite easy to wipe out their nuclear power, I'm not going to talk to you about that.
00:51:36.000 But we're either going to get a deal or it's going to be unfortunate for them.
00:51:40.000 And then we since they're dealing with, have you given them a deadline firm to make a deal?
00:51:45.000 I would think that would be enough time, 10, 15 days, pretty much maximum.
00:51:51.000 So, pretty clear.
00:51:53.000 It's not very clear, actually.
00:51:54.000 10 to 15 days, maybe.
00:51:56.000 No, I mean, it's pretty clear.
00:51:57.000 It's like, yeah, the bad things are going to happen.
00:51:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:51:59.000 He gave me all Stevens a goal.
00:52:01.000 Bad things happen.
00:52:01.000 Right, yeah.
00:52:03.000 What?
00:52:04.000 You mean for the buffet?
00:52:05.000 Hey, come on.
00:52:07.000 The toilet.
00:52:08.000 Gonna wristlock the golden corral.
00:52:11.000 Now.
00:52:14.000 But this administration has not been super clear on what the goals are, why there may be conflict with Iran.
00:52:20.000 So there were negotiations.
00:52:22.000 Nothing seemed to come from them.
00:52:24.000 Don't take my word for it.
00:52:25.000 Links, references in the description.
00:52:27.000 But it's difficult to see how the Americans could possibly be satisfied with the outcome of those talks that's been detailed to us so far.
00:52:34.000 We saw the Iranian and Omani negotiators basically trying to project this as an optimistic outcome, a breakthrough, but there has been absolute silence from the Americans and the negotiation party there, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law.
00:52:51.000 They're a long way from where they wanted to be, which was a complete end to Iran's nuclear program.
00:52:58.000 We know that the U.S. President is today meeting with his key advisors to discuss his options.
00:53:03.000 But here in Israel, analysts are saying it won't be a question of whether America strikes, but what targets they choose.
00:53:10.000 Yeah, and it seemed like that's imminent because the U.S. Embassy in Israel told staffers to leave.
00:53:14.000 China told its citizens in Iran to evacuate as soon as possible.
00:53:17.000 There are F-22s in Israel for the first time ever.
00:53:20.000 There's been the largest naval buildup in the region since 2003.
00:53:25.000 And those negotiations, so this is where the messaging matters.
00:53:28.000 I think Rubia was more effective.
00:53:30.000 Look, we've discussed enrichment.
00:53:34.000 And that was the primary discussion before.
00:53:36.000 Iran enriching uranium to the point well beyond the need for civilian use.
00:53:42.000 If Iran didn't build a nuke, they would be the first nation to reach 60% uranium enrichment in the history of the world to not build a nuclear weapon.
00:53:53.000 Let me ask you, do you really think that Iran is that much of a stand-up guy that they'd be the first?
00:54:00.000 Or do you go, it's pretty clear where they were enriching uranium.
00:54:03.000 Another question, do you really think Iran or Iran is the kind of place that's developing a nuclear weapon for protection?
00:54:09.000 That's exactly right.
00:54:09.000 Right.
00:54:10.000 For defense?
00:54:12.000 No.
00:54:12.000 Exactly right.
00:54:13.000 So yesterday the negotiations were focused, yeah, enrichment, but the other component, ballistic missiles, meaning the ability to deliver the payload.
00:54:21.000 The negotiations tomorrow and the talks tomorrow will be largely focused on the nuclear program.
00:54:26.000 And we hope progress can be made, because that's the president's preference to make progress on the diplomatic front.
00:54:31.000 But it's also important to remember that Iran refuses, refuses to talk about ballistic missiles to us or to anyone.
00:54:39.000 And that's a big problem.
00:54:41.000 Vice President JD Vance reiterated, just like Donald Trump has been saying since at least 2011, Iran can't have the bomb.
00:54:49.000 The principle is very simple.
00:54:50.000 Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:54:52.000 If they try to rebuild the nuclear weapon, that causes problems for us.
00:54:55.000 And in fact, we've seen evidence that they have tried to do exactly that.
00:54:59.000 So, the president sending those negotiators to try to address that problem, as the president has said repeatedly, he wants to address that problem diplomatically.
00:55:07.000 But of course, the president has other options as well.
00:55:10.000 And he said the idea that we're going to be in a Middle Eastern war for years with no one in sight, there is no chance that will happen.
00:55:16.000 Here's what I'll say: if that is incorrect, if we end up in a never-ending war in the Middle East, which I think is very unlikely, then JD Vance should be held accountable and should get nowhere in a primary.
00:55:30.000 I think that's fair.
00:55:32.000 Yeah.
00:55:32.000 I agree.
00:55:33.000 I think we need to hold them to their word as far as our communications.
00:55:35.000 I think there's a very big difference between a few flyovers or strategic strikes and war.
00:55:43.000 And I think we need to allow for that possibility because everyone said we were at World War III when we carried out the strike against their enrichment facilities last year.
00:55:53.000 Of course, we're not in World War III.
00:55:54.000 Here are the demands from the United States.
00:55:56.000 And I think they're reasonable.
00:55:57.000 No enrichment, period.
00:55:58.000 No ballistic missiles, period.
00:56:01.000 iran wants the right they want to enrich and they're asking that they get some sanctions relief before talking about missiles which to me is just first and then we'll talk what they want to talk about energy exports They want to talk about military weapon proliferation.
00:56:14.000 They want to talk about finance, shadow banking, shipping.
00:56:18.000 They want to talk about mining, manufacturing.
00:56:21.000 They also demanded a live concert from Brooks and/or Dunn.
00:56:29.000 Which one is it?
00:56:31.000 Is that Dunn or Brooks?
00:56:33.000 I don't know, but they broke up.
00:56:34.000 We can't do that for you, Iran.
00:56:35.000 You got anything else?
00:56:37.000 We also can't do Simon and/or Garfunkel.
00:56:41.000 Or Carsby-Steels or Nash.
00:56:43.000 No.
00:56:44.000 Here's the other thing going on, right?
00:56:46.000 They're the largest funder of state funder of terrorism.
00:56:49.000 You know, Pakistan announced that it's in an open war with the Taliban right now, to be clear.
00:56:54.000 So this is going on.
00:56:56.000 And remember, the Taliban said that they would support Iran if they were fighting against the United States.
00:56:59.000 There's some pretty strong evidence of funding between Iran's revolutionary guards and the Taliban.
00:57:06.000 This is a very, very unstable country.
00:57:08.000 There are a lot of most countries in that region.
00:57:10.000 So take Israel out of it.
00:57:11.000 Take the United States out of it.
00:57:13.000 Saudi Arabia, plenty of European nations.
00:57:16.000 The G7 issued a statement on it.
00:57:18.000 G7, Egypt.
00:57:20.000 At a certain point, you can't just say that everyone is in on some kind of a gag.
00:57:26.000 Iran is not the kind of nation that you want to have any nuclear weapon capabilities, period.
00:57:33.000 It comes down to what do we do about it and how is that being communicated to the American people?
00:57:39.000 This is where this administration falls short.
00:57:43.000 They need to have told you guys this: marry every action with a very clear communication.
00:57:49.000 So, for example, the communication that was taken, one can come first or the other, depending on the situation.
00:57:55.000 When he said, if they start killing protesters, it's going to be very bad for them.
00:58:01.000 That was a communication.
00:58:02.000 The action should have been married with that communication.
00:58:05.000 You'd still have people saying that you're in the pockets of Israel, but at least you'd have the reasonable folks in this country understand why.
00:58:13.000 And there were a lot of people who thought that the Iranian revolutionaries deserved some support.
00:58:17.000 Right now, the communication is not being married to the action.
00:58:23.000 So people who aren't paying attention, and even people who are paying attention, may feel as though they are left in the dark.
00:58:28.000 You got to communicate.
00:58:29.000 Be clear on your objectives.
00:58:30.000 Be in and out.
00:58:31.000 Of course, no Americans on the ground.
00:58:32.000 I think let's find the areas on which we agree.
00:58:36.000 Okay?
00:58:37.000 Number one, Israel has nothing to do with this.
00:58:41.000 We do not act on behalf of Israel, period.
00:58:43.000 And I don't want Israel leading the dance in any way, shape, or form.
00:58:47.000 In other words, if Iran was an ally, they're not, but if they were and Israel had a problem with them, you're on your own, Israel.
00:58:52.000 Do we agree with that?
00:58:53.000 100%.
00:58:53.000 Okay.
00:58:54.000 No American boots on the ground.
00:58:56.000 100%.
00:58:57.000 I think we all agree on that.
00:59:00.000 Don't try and convince us that you've been consistent on this messaging as far as this administration.
00:59:06.000 Like, own it, be clear about it.
00:59:09.000 You can point back to Donald Trump's position, but be clear as to the actions you are taking and why, and be in and out.
00:59:17.000 I think if we're looking at something like the enrichment facility, if we're looking at something like Maduro, a mission like that, that's something that a lot of Americans can stomach.
00:59:26.000 A war is not.
00:59:29.000 And I think we're seeing a lot of people on the left and the black pillars trying to tell you this is all about war.
00:59:34.000 This is all.
00:59:35.000 Remember, we used to get that with George W. Bush.
00:59:36.000 It's war for oil, war for oil.
00:59:38.000 Hold on a second.
00:59:40.000 Why would we go to war with Iran?
00:59:43.000 Why would we carry out any military intervention or strikes in Iran if not due to national security interests?
00:59:51.000 Like what financial interest do we have in it?
00:59:53.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:59:55.000 Let's be honest about this discussion and have a very clear framework as to where we disagree.
01:00:01.000 But you can't even get there right now.
01:00:03.000 I don't want my son to die for Israel.
01:00:05.000 Well, no one does.
01:00:07.000 No one does.
01:00:08.000 I think we all agree on that.
01:00:09.000 Donald Trump is betraying us by now.
01:00:12.000 No, he's not.
01:00:13.000 He's been super, super clear.
01:00:15.000 And by the way, if Donald Trump, for example, said, let's say that he had a different stance on Iraq, saying, actually, I want to go in and finish what was started.
01:00:25.000 I would completely disagree with him if that was his platform.
01:00:28.000 I would have voted for him anyway compared to Kamala Harris.
01:00:32.000 And that would have been a disagreement over which I would try and press the administration and hold them accountable.
01:00:39.000 You may find yourself in that boat with Iran where you liked Donald Trump's policies on immigration.
01:00:45.000 You liked his policies on deportations.
01:00:46.000 You liked his policies as it related to the economy, maybe tariffs, doge.
01:00:52.000 But maybe you just, you didn't like President Trump's policies or his viewpoint that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuke and we would intervene if we felt that they were getting close or the ability to deliver said nuke.
01:01:02.000 It's okay.
01:01:03.000 For example, I don't agree with Donald Trump's stance on abortion in some cases.
01:01:08.000 We wouldn't be completely aligned, but I voted for him anyway.
01:01:11.000 I'm not going to lie and say that he's switching something on me because I knew that when I voted for him.
01:01:17.000 That's something that I see is a pretty consistent issue and is used to lead people astray.
01:01:22.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:01:23.000 And I want him to be able to do whatever it takes to make Americans safe.
01:01:26.000 I don't want people to forget the idea that there are dangers in the world that will make us less safe.
01:01:33.000 We don't want to use that as cover to go do something that we've done in the past that hasn't worked to great effect.
01:01:36.000 I get that.
01:01:37.000 I understand why people are hesitant, but it doesn't mean that doesn't exist.
01:01:41.000 Lane made a great point earlier.
01:01:43.000 He said, put Iran with a nuclear weapon and think about North Korea, all the actions that they take, what they do, right?
01:01:50.000 We can't touch them, right?
01:01:51.000 Because they have nukes.
01:01:52.000 Right.
01:01:53.000 If you give that to Iran, Iran's not just sitting there passively kind of doing their thing in a corner.
01:01:57.000 They're actively trying to subvert not only Israel, but other players.
01:02:02.000 And they would then have a nuclear weapon and we would not really be able to touch them the same way that we can right now to keep them from doing it.
01:02:09.000 Well, Iran would be actively trying to destabilize energy globally, to be clear.
01:02:13.000 And Iran is buddying up more and more with China and Russia.
01:02:17.000 This is something I'm going to say.
01:02:17.000 Look, they want to kill Israel and they want to kill us.
01:02:20.000 Yeah, we're big Satan for a long time.
01:02:22.000 I don't agree with everything Senator Huckabee says in his interview with Tucker Carlson, but he's not wrong on that because we have the videos of them chanting it.
01:02:30.000 Yeah.
01:02:30.000 But I would just even eliminate Israel from the conversation.
01:02:32.000 Yeah.
01:02:33.000 Don't even bring them up.
01:02:33.000 They're irrelevant to me in this conversation.
01:02:35.000 They want to kill us.
01:02:36.000 I don't care.
01:02:37.000 That argument when they say we're fighting for, we're just doing this for Israel.
01:02:41.000 We're just fighting on behalf of Israel.
01:02:43.000 They called them Little Satan.
01:02:44.000 called us big Satan.
01:02:45.000 That's like if somebody called...
01:02:46.000 It's like if somebody called Stephen Little Faggot and called me Big Faggot.
01:02:46.000 Just forget that.
01:02:50.000 Yeah, I'd still want to fight that guy.
01:02:52.000 It has nothing to do with Stephen being a faggot.
01:02:54.000 Well, Gerald did that this morning.
01:02:54.000 No.
01:02:56.000 Yeah.
01:02:56.000 I did, yeah.
01:02:57.000 Yeah, but he didn't hear him say that.
01:02:57.000 Did he really?
01:02:59.000 No, but he's giant faggot, so it's okay.
01:03:01.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:02.000 I'm Little Faggot.
01:03:03.000 You're a big faggot.
01:03:04.000 He's giant faggot.
01:03:05.000 How did that work?
01:03:06.000 Huh?
01:03:07.000 Because you're giant.
01:03:07.000 What do you think?
01:03:08.000 No, it makes sense to me.
01:03:09.000 The height charts?
01:03:10.000 No.
01:03:11.000 What do you say?
01:03:12.000 Does this work?
01:03:13.000 I mean, how does it work?
01:03:14.000 You saw Stephen's pose earlier.
01:03:15.000 Yeah.
01:03:16.000 No, it's on me.
01:03:17.000 So is there any?
01:03:17.000 What do you, look, let's open this up quick to a round table.
01:03:20.000 Do you think that something should be done?
01:03:20.000 What do you think?
01:03:22.000 What do I think we should do?
01:03:23.000 Here's what I think.
01:03:24.000 You have the arranging, and then you tell me, I think we're kind of all on the same page.
01:03:28.000 Because this is a complicated issue.
01:03:30.000 They cannot get to the point where they could have the enriched uranium to build a new.
01:03:34.000 All right.
01:03:34.000 That's one component.
01:03:35.000 The other component is to have the kind of missiles that could deliver that payload.
01:03:38.000 All right.
01:03:39.000 Whichever one comes first does need to be stopped because then you're just inches away from it being a significant threat.
01:03:49.000 And I certainly understand that that is Donald Trump's stance.
01:03:51.000 It has been that stance since before he ever announced running for president.
01:03:55.000 I'm going to take a page out of Warren Smith's book.
01:03:57.000 He was on the show earlier this week or last week.
01:04:00.000 But he was saying, you know, sometimes it seems silly to argue something to him, to me, too, that I don't know all the details about.
01:04:09.000 And I don't know all the details.
01:04:10.000 We can't know all the details.
01:04:12.000 I don't know what Jared, by the way, I don't know if that's our best negotiator.
01:04:15.000 I don't know why he's always negotiating on behalf of our, well, yeah, he gets us million dollar planes and stuff.
01:04:21.000 But no, yeah, I guess I don't know.
01:04:24.000 Some nepotism going on there.
01:04:25.000 But I don't know all the details of all these negotiations.
01:04:28.000 I don't know what is actually happening in Iran.
01:04:30.000 I don't know what's being said at the negotiation table.
01:04:31.000 I don't know what's being denied.
01:04:33.000 I don't know how we're handling.
01:04:34.000 I don't know all the details.
01:04:35.000 So for me, it's like, well, I'm going to be hard-pressed to give an opinion before it happens until after it happens.
01:04:42.000 If we learn all the details, oh, yeah, well, that was a good move.
01:04:45.000 Right.
01:04:46.000 I think it's important too, really important for you to not make your decisions or form your opinion being completely emotionally charged.
01:04:53.000 And that's what I see as far as the bad actors on the right.
01:04:56.000 Put it this way.
01:04:57.000 Remember, there was a point where we believed that Iran was behind the assassination plot of Donald Trump or one of them.
01:05:03.000 Let's say that when that happened, definitively, we were able to prove, hey, Iran was behind this.
01:05:10.000 And then Donald Trump said, I'm going to make them pay.
01:05:13.000 Believe me, I'm the only thing between them and you.
01:05:16.000 And then he bombed the hell out of them.
01:05:17.000 I bet you a lot more of you would have understood it and supported it.
01:05:22.000 Well, they have been behind assassination plots.
01:05:25.000 You just haven't married that narrative, that communication, with the action, right?
01:05:31.000 Slaughtering their own people in the streets.
01:05:34.000 Then you add biggest state funder of terrorism, destabilizing energy across the globe, an alliance with Russia and China.
01:05:43.000 If you add those things up, but if you put yourself back in that emotional state, you would understand it.
01:05:48.000 Now people want to put you in the opposite emotional state, going, Iran's no threat, and you're going to see your children in the military die for Israel.
01:05:58.000 That's the thing is, no matter how you look at it, Iran is a threat.
01:06:01.000 Yes.
01:06:02.000 I mean, not just to us, not just to Israel.
01:06:04.000 It is a global threat.
01:06:05.000 Is it a threat to Western civilization?
01:06:07.000 For sure.
01:06:08.000 That's not even arguable.
01:06:09.000 Right.
01:06:09.000 To its own people.
01:06:10.000 I mean, whether you make a decision to operate inside their boundaries based on that is a different thing, but you have to establish that they are a threat to the rest of the world, at least the Western world.
01:06:21.000 Yeah.
01:06:21.000 And I do think that, unfortunately, that this is all kind of marred by, look, the statement that Ben Shapiro made is incredibly corrosive.
01:06:32.000 There are people out there who do seemingly care about Israel more than the United States.
01:06:37.000 I get it.
01:06:38.000 That's a problem.
01:06:39.000 I'm not saying that he does, but it comes across that way.
01:06:42.000 If the United States doesn't, then my God, Israel might have to fight their own conflicts.
01:06:47.000 That's what he is saying.
01:06:48.000 It's not the first time a clip like that has made the face of the right-wing movement.
01:06:51.000 Right.
01:06:53.000 That's one guy with a last name that sounds like that's his opinion, but that's not how all of us feel.
01:06:58.000 Right.
01:06:59.000 Yeah.
01:06:59.000 So you end up with these voices going, hey, if we don't do it, then Israel's going to have to defend themselves.
01:07:04.000 And then people going, see, this whole administration is paid off by the Israeli government.
01:07:09.000 So let's put those two aside.
01:07:13.000 Do we live in a world?
01:07:14.000 Do you honestly live in a world where you believe that there is no nation that could present as a threat to the United States, regardless of their relationships with other nations?
01:07:24.000 Like, that's a fantasy world.
01:07:26.000 It doesn't make sense at all.
01:07:27.000 That's a liberal view of the world.
01:07:29.000 That's not a practical, that's not a logical view of the world, but these voices are awful.
01:07:33.000 And it's time for them to kind of either understand the damage they have caused or go away.
01:07:40.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:07:40.000 And I think my answer to this is that a negotiated settlement is the absolute best possible outcome if you have a reliable, trustworthy partner on the other side that will be transparent.
01:07:52.000 I don't think that has ever been this Iranian regime since we've had an agreement with them.
01:07:56.000 And that was my problem with the one that Dave always cites.
01:07:58.000 He's like, but we had a deal with them under Obama.
01:08:00.000 Yeah, that was an issue because it had sunset provisions.
01:08:02.000 And why would you go to 60 anyway?
01:08:04.000 My problem with where they are right now is that Iran is doing the very thing that they say that they're not doing.
01:08:10.000 We don't want nukes, but we're going to 60%.
01:08:13.000 Nobody's ever done that before.
01:08:14.000 You've gone too far for me.
01:08:16.000 If you were at 20% enrichment or 15% and you go to like a medical kind of isotope enrichment level where you stay right around there, that's a different story.
01:08:24.000 But when you go to 60, you're basically saying, we're doing this to keep you away.
01:08:27.000 Well, I can't know the difference now.
01:08:29.000 That is now a problem that I have to solve.
01:08:31.000 And I feel like this is a problem that will have to be solved one way or the other, now or later.
01:08:37.000 It is not going to go away.
01:08:39.000 No, it's not.
01:08:39.000 It will just end with them either getting a nuclear weapon, at which point the calculus changes in the region completely, not just for us, but for everybody else, or we change this regime.
01:08:49.000 Yeah.
01:08:50.000 And it would have to be us in some form or fashion with the Iranian civilians rising up against their own people.
01:08:56.000 I just don't know how that happens.
01:08:58.000 And I don't want American boots on the ground for any of it.
01:09:00.000 A regime change doesn't happen without boots on the ground.
01:09:02.000 And they might not be boots that you ever hear or see, but it does not happen without boots on the ground.
01:09:02.000 I know.
01:09:06.000 The only thing I would argue, it perhaps could have happened while the revolution was in full swing with some strategic strikes where we've given them the ability to.
01:09:14.000 And I think that was, if we were going to do it, that would have been the time to do it.
01:09:18.000 Don't the Jews have space lasers?
01:09:19.000 Can't they just point one of those puppies back down at Tehran somewhere?
01:09:22.000 Yeah, can't you just point a Cuban microwave at them?
01:09:26.000 Yeah, it's kind of like World of the World.
01:09:27.000 You just kind of like, yeah.
01:09:29.000 So, you know, I forgot.
01:09:31.000 We went a little bit late today.
01:09:33.000 So, and again, welcome, Bon Gino viewers.
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01:09:59.000 We're going to continue, though, with this story.
01:10:00.000 A trans activist just went off at the Los Angeles City Council.
01:10:04.000 Then we're going to actually cover here a sex offender who lied about it is also running for city council.
01:10:11.000 And the left is holding this person out to be like someone reformed, even though they're not.
01:10:16.000 So this is first, two different weird gender bending.
01:10:20.000 There's trans, and then I guess a basic gay who seems trans.
01:10:23.000 LA City Council.
01:10:25.000 Here's someone demanding meaningful investment into trans communities.
01:10:28.000 And boy, Caitlin Collins from CNN has really fallen off.