On this episode of Whistleblower 52, we talk about hate in the city of San Antonio, TX, and why it should be taken down. We also talk about immigration and the upcoming election, and how we can all work together to fix it.
00:01:23.000Yeah, no, it's Bezos. He does a lot of good.
00:01:25.000So, is that talking about the, like, Donald Trump type of wall?
00:01:28.000Yeah, the border wall. He said, we should build a wall, you know, change my mind, like, have a conversation about it, but, like, I mean, people coming to the city, they're going to think it's a city of hate.
00:01:39.000But if you ask me, I don't agree with that position, but I think that they are in the right to express their opinion.
00:02:04.000Yeah, but they're expressing their opinion.
00:02:07.000I hope that if I express my opinion and someone else finds my opinion repulsive that I will still be able to express it.
00:02:16.000Okay. Okay, so you're old school with that.
00:02:18.000What do you think about, because right now, both candidates, too, like, when at first we were protesting, you know, Donald Trump always said build the wall, but now Kamala Harris says she's going to build one, too.
00:02:26.000So what do, I mean, how do you, like, how is that allowed, you know?
00:02:31.000Only four years ago, if you said that, people would say it was, like, hateful and it was ridiculous, but now everyone is saying it.
00:02:36.000Yeah, no, and it's clear that immigration is now a hotter topic.
00:03:56.000I think that regardless of who is in the White House starting, you know, January, you know, the current asylum structure will definitely change regardless.
00:04:09.000We need to take more? No, I think we need to regulate it.
00:04:13.000By bringing in more of them, like pay to bring in more?
00:04:18.000I think there has to be ways for people to immigrate into the United States legally, but definitely not just getting to the border and saying, hey, I'm here on a political asylum let me in.
00:04:32.000I think that figure like that is not sustainable.
00:04:35.000Well, if we could just say, well, just make it legal for everyone to come here, then I wouldn't have a problem with it being illegal.
00:04:42.000Well, you know, the same way when people go into your house, like you...
00:06:39.000You can come here as a student, which is what I did.
00:06:44.000And I went through all the different processes, so I was never here illegally.
00:06:48.000There are many people that have come into the United States illegally.
00:06:52.000In the U.S., when you graduate from a U.S. educational institution, you get a temporary visa called an OPT, which is a temporary work permit.
00:07:02.000Okay. And then from then on, you can go through different stages and different layers.
00:07:08.000And then, yeah, in my case, through multiple stages.
00:07:12.000It took me 15 years, but I became a U.S. citizen.
00:08:24.000And I'm not sure you're familiar with the situation in South America, but for example, right now, they have a dictator in Venezuela, Maduro.
00:08:49.000But that could just be what the media wants you to believe, right?
00:08:52.000That's just what they're showing you. You also have a big chunk of Venezuelans that have come into the United States.
00:08:56.000That's why, like, when I moved to Texas, like, 10 years ago, like, I only, like, very occasionally found a Venezuelan.
00:09:04.000But now you're running to Venezuelans all the time because they are coming here...
00:09:08.000Because of all the pressure of people leaving Venezuela to come here, running away from what's happening right now in Venezuela.
00:09:17.000Now, as fate would have it, if you believe that kind of thing, about half an hour later, the universe blessed us with some actual Venezuelans who were enriching America, their beautiful culture, and contributing to our diverse fabric.
00:09:33.000No, I don't speak, but that's the problem, right?
00:10:47.000But then, you know, once we reached, like, two million Venezuelans, then the capacity of the country to absorb so many people, like, reached a limit.
00:10:58.000Right? So you had, like, Venezuelans, like, sleeping on, like...
00:11:03.000There were many Venezuelans that turned into criminal gangs just because they couldn't find a legal way to make it.
00:11:12.000So you see that there has to be an organized way of doing things.
00:11:19.000You know, I'm sure that you have driven around the United States.
00:11:26.000You know, I've always imagined that a good way to develop, like, all these, like, empty, like, rural areas, some of them, you know, run down, would be by just creating immigration in a smarter way.
00:11:42.000For example, you can say, okay, you know, we want to develop, like, these...
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00:12:11.000We're going to need, you know, three pharmacists.
00:12:14.000We're going to need, you know, ten teachers.
00:12:16.000We're going to need, you know, two lawyers, you know, whatever.
00:12:18.000You get the idea. And you start recruiting, let's say recruiting from, like, all the different countries, people with the specific characteristics, and you tell them, okay...
00:12:27.000You're allowed into the country, but you're to establish a community in this area.
00:12:35.000They can come and live here in a safe way.
00:12:38.000But it sounds like you're saying they need to have certain skills or abilities to be able to...
00:12:42.000I mean, a lot of people don't have that.
00:12:44.000Right, but you also need, you know, bakers, you also need janitors.
00:12:50.000So as long as you have some type of ability and you can document that this is what you do, you know, whatever that is, even if it's, you know, humble, you can still come into the States, you know, legally or into a specific region and you can just live there.
00:13:05.000But so... That's why, you know, I always look for, like, pragmatic ways of doing things.
00:13:10.000Okay. Because just, like, allowing, like, saying, okay, there will be no immigration rules, like, everyone can come here.
00:13:17.000That's just going to be, like, you're going to find people like that.
00:14:00.000They took your jobs! They took your jobs! So I do feel that there is a value and a big benefit in immigration, but it has to be done in an orderly manner, in ways in which The host, which is like, you know, the citizens of this country, will feel comfortable. And that requires some agreement, some negotiation, some compromise, but that's how I think about it.
00:14:24.000Oh, okay. Because you're Colombian, you're talking about this one.
00:14:40.000Yes, so I would say Cubans are different because they The Cubans that you meet here, they are fleeing from the communist regime in Cuba, like the Castro regime that has been going on now for like 60 years or so.
00:15:03.000So that's why when they come into the States, many of them, they actually hate the left because they're fleeing from that.
00:15:11.000Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's typically not what you find in other Latin American countries.
00:15:17.000They're not fleeing like a communist dictatorship, which is what you have in Cuba.
00:15:22.000So that's why when those Cubans come into the States, they tend to align with the Republican Party, which is kind of like the anti-left party.
00:15:33.000I wouldn't characterize it like that, but yeah, let's say they're more on the right of the political spectrum.
00:15:42.000But definitely, people coming from other countries, they don't have the same experience.
00:15:47.000So that's why, from a purely political perspective, you see that, say, Mexicans that come here, or any other...
00:15:56.000You know, Latin American country, they will be more, like, they will typically tend to be more on the democratic side, but Cubans are definitely different from that perspective.
00:16:05.000Yeah, definitely. They seem, like, really hardcore.
00:16:08.000Yeah, yeah, yeah. I absolutely get it.
00:16:09.000Oh, man. Well, I know you got work to do.
00:16:11.000We were just asking people, what was your name?
00:16:12.000I'm John. John? All right, thanks, John.
00:16:16.000Skylar, thank you. Yeah, we were just, like, a lot of people are upset about this.
00:16:19.000And why are you doing this? Because I think it needs to be taken down.
00:16:22.000I don't think that, you know, we have a place for hate in the city and it upsets a lot of people.
00:16:26.000Are you getting any traction? Honestly, like, I'm surprised how many people are okay with it who say, like, what you say.
00:16:33.000Like, I mean, because remember, that was, that was like a big, I mean, I just feel like we've changed, we've gone so far right so quickly.
00:16:39.000Like, when Donald Trump was first running, he said, build a wall, you know, a lot of people said that it was, you know, obviously, like, rightfully so, like, racist, but now Kamala's saying she's going to build a wall, and this is up here, and, like, not enough people seem to have a problem with it.
00:16:54.000I mean, I'm just, you know, I come from, like you said, I'm being super left, but, like, anywhere else in the world, I'd be considered normal.
00:17:00.000You know, it's the states. We're like a right-wing here.
00:17:03.000It's like a right-wing fascist country.
00:17:04.000And this is just, this wouldn't be allowed in Europe.
00:17:06.000It wouldn't be allowed. I spoke with someone from Canada because, you know, like, free speech doesn't protect hate speech.
00:17:11.000There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
00:17:17.000I thought more people would be more upset about it.
00:17:19.000I mean, I respect what you're saying because, like, I don't want to...
00:17:22.000I don't want to white-splain to you, so I'll listen to your perspective, but when I hear white people say it, like, oh yeah, it's fine, I'm like, you know, it's upsetting, and we're trying to get it to take it down.