Louder with Crowder - January 27, 2026


Is Trump Backing Down or Doubling Down in Minnesota: Special Guest Nick Sortor


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1 hour and 6 minutes

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10,944

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1,012

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Nick Sortor steps down from his role as VP of Public Policy at the Department of Justice, and we're here to talk about it. Plus, why the Trump administration is backing down on a gun control bill, and why it may not be as bad as you think it is.

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00:03:35.000 And today on the show, we have Nick Sortor, who announced yesterday that Bovino might be stepping down.
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00:04:04.000 I'm going to prove to you today how easy it is to make people believe something that isn't so.
00:04:10.000 And then that brings us to the conversation: is the Trump administration backing down?
00:04:15.000 I will say this: there have been some missteps from the administration that doesn't change the fact that I support Ice on the Ground and Alex Prudy was not simply an innocent bystander.
00:04:25.000 I've been very, very clear.
00:04:26.000 Still support the Second Amendment.
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00:04:31.000 But unless there's something that we're missing, we're going to lay out the case as to why it may not be great today.
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00:08:59.000 My question for you is: is it art of the deal, or do you think that President Trump is backing down?
00:09:03.000 I think there are sycophants out there who want to always paint things in a positive light, even when it may not necessarily be a win.
00:09:10.000 And then there are people who simply want to paint everything in a negative light.
00:09:13.000 We're going to try and call balls and strikes today and see what Nick Sortor has for us.
00:09:16.000 He has some new exclusive info.
00:09:17.000 There's some new footage out there of Alex Predty.
00:09:20.000 At least that's what CNN is saying.
00:09:21.000 I don't know that it's new, but I know it's new to most of the public.
00:09:26.000 So this brings me to a point.
00:09:28.000 I want to tell you something.
00:09:30.000 It is very, very easy to deceive you.
00:09:35.000 Probably not you if you're watching because you're aware.
00:09:37.000 We try and make you aware of the tricks, but it's very easy to deceive those average American right now out there in public consuming media.
00:09:45.000 And by the way, that's not because anyone is stupid.
00:09:48.000 That includes doctors.
00:09:49.000 That includes rocket scientists.
00:09:51.000 That includes chemical engineers.
00:09:52.000 There are tricks.
00:09:53.000 There are tools of the trade that are used.
00:09:56.000 And I'll just use one example to show you how clear it can be.
00:10:00.000 You can be deceived to believe that an innocent party is guilty and a guilty party is innocent simply by the time codes, meaning simply by the start point of the clip and the end point of the clip, you can have an entirely inaccurate, well, just a misconception of what actually transpired.
00:10:21.000 And that's what's been happening here with Renee Good, with Alex Predty.
00:10:25.000 Let me show you, okay?
00:10:26.000 Right now, I will show you a conflict that has taken place in this office, and you tell me who's the aggressor, who's the victim.
00:10:35.000 No, don't.
00:10:38.000 How's that feel?
00:10:39.000 Oh, you deserve that.
00:10:40.000 How's that feel?
00:10:41.000 Cut it out.
00:10:43.000 So that'd be comparable to the first clip that you guys may have seen where you go, this is a public execution.
00:10:48.000 That seems pretty cut and dry.
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00:10:50.000 Now, let me just rewind it.
00:10:52.000 A few seconds, a part you didn't see.
00:10:53.000 Does this change it?
00:10:57.000 How does that feel?
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00:11:06.000 How's that feel?
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00:11:08.000 How's that feel?
00:11:09.000 Cut it out.
00:11:11.000 Oh, well, now that clearly seems pretty cut and dry.
00:11:14.000 Turn around, who thought that we thought that I was the aggressor?
00:11:18.000 It turns out that Toolman was the aggressor, and it was even a callback with how's that feel?
00:11:23.000 Where actually, in that case, it's completely justified.
00:11:25.000 Only, well, hold on a second.
00:11:27.000 What if I rewind it another few seconds?
00:11:30.000 And can you tell who the aggressor and the victim is?
00:11:33.000 Does the context change something?
00:11:37.000 Tim, I'm going to murder you by putting this knife in your face.
00:11:45.000 Not if I stop you with this gun.
00:11:50.000 How does that feel?
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00:11:56.000 No, don't.
00:11:59.000 How's that feel?
00:12:00.000 You deserve that.
00:12:01.000 How's that feel?
00:12:04.000 And see, even in context, none of this is real.
00:12:08.000 So keep that in mind next time you pass judgment on a clip.
00:12:13.000 Take that, you pass, bystander.
00:12:17.000 And to be clear, what you saw at the end of that, that one is in context.
00:12:20.000 There was no justification.
00:12:21.000 No, he always gets beaten.
00:12:23.000 That one is actually cut.
00:12:24.000 This is just for fun.
00:12:25.000 So comment below.
00:12:27.000 Does that help illustrate it?
00:12:28.000 Because before you even get to the idea of AI, you'll see people go, AI, or, you know, they inserted something here, or they deliberately cut out an angle.
00:12:36.000 All you need to mislead the public is that.
00:12:40.000 I can give you some examples of that.
00:12:42.000 Make your voices heard peacefully and patriotically.
00:12:45.000 Got to be peaceful, right?
00:12:47.000 Always have to be peaceful.
00:12:49.000 Instead, they just show fight like hell.
00:12:51.000 How about, I'm not talking about neo-Nazis or white supremacists who should be condemned totally, but outside of that, you had very fine people on both sides.
00:13:01.000 Does that change the context?
00:13:04.000 How many times do you need to run into this until you start understanding?
00:13:10.000 The media is not fulfilling its job.
00:13:13.000 They're supposed to inform you.
00:13:16.000 I would argue that it's a crime against humanity when they deliberately misinform you.
00:13:22.000 And we're seeing that a lot.
00:13:24.000 And that's illustrated perfectly here.
00:13:26.000 Wherever you line up, the Alex Predi case, that brings us to some of the new footage.
00:13:31.000 So you would have had a very strong visceral reaction based on the first clip that was circulated.
00:13:38.000 And keep in mind, someone picked in points and out points because what we've seen since includes an extension of that very clip.
00:13:46.000 But here's the first thing you saw.
00:13:51.000 They're just shoving a lady, and he's helping her.
00:14:00.000 The f***, people!
00:14:02.000 The f*** is wrong with you!
00:14:21.000 Now, take that very specific timecode and add the commentary that was being included with it.
00:14:28.000 They were...
00:14:29.000 They were on the sidewalk.
00:14:31.000 And these officers just chose to aggress them.
00:14:33.000 The officers came to them.
00:14:35.000 Remember that?
00:14:37.000 And we'll go through the goalposts moving because now we're not having a discussion as to whether ICE or whether DHS, whether they have the right to deport people.
00:14:45.000 It's simply, hey, wasn't this guy a bloodthirsty murderer?
00:14:49.000 That's what they do.
00:14:49.000 They do it dishonestly so that you have to correct it and you can't actually discuss the root issue at hand.
00:14:55.000 So there you go.
00:14:56.000 You see that?
00:14:56.000 My gosh, that looks like ICE was out of line.
00:14:59.000 They were clearly an aggressor at the very least.
00:15:01.000 And it was an execution.
00:15:02.000 Well, now let's pull back.
00:15:06.000 Were they on the sidewalk where ICE was the aggressor?
00:15:24.000 Blowing loud whistles right at the officer, to be clear.
00:15:43.000 Still going to go with on the sidewalk?
00:15:47.000 What the fuck is wrong with you?
00:15:50.000 And this was the end point that was picked.
00:15:52.000 Right?
00:15:54.000 Okay, cut it.
00:15:55.000 Have seen the rest of it.
00:15:56.000 Does that change anything?
00:15:59.000 It certainly changes the narrative that you were fed that they were on the sidewalk and this ICE agent just assaulted a woman and he was protecting her.
00:16:06.000 See, because we're not actually having the conversation about ICE and their job and what's going on in Minneapolis and Minnesota.
00:16:14.000 Now we have some allegedly new footage.
00:16:16.000 And you've seen the screen grab from this for a long time, which makes me wonder why wasn't this footage publicly available?
00:16:21.000 If it was, I'm sorry.
00:16:23.000 It certainly wasn't widely circulated.
00:16:24.000 CNN is covering it as new.
00:16:26.000 So now we've gone from innocent people on the sidewalk who were assaulted by ICE.
00:16:30.000 This was a knight in shining armor protecting a lady to, okay, well, maybe they were out there in the street, but you know, that's just, it's confusing.
00:16:38.000 That was one time.
00:16:39.000 Or were they doing this potentially all day long, impeding a lawful process and putting other people at risk?
00:16:49.000 Was this going on throughout the day?
00:16:51.000 New footage.
00:16:55.000 This is not the same altercation as what you see in the video.
00:17:04.000 That means they're telling them, stay off the road.
00:17:08.000 You can be on the sidewalk.
00:17:10.000 And now they cut it to the other footage.
00:17:14.000 Now, do you see that?
00:17:15.000 What CNN did?
00:17:16.000 They didn't even show the full new clip.
00:17:23.000 They cut out the middle section.
00:17:25.000 We may have edited on this one.
00:17:27.000 I'll give you a little context.
00:17:29.000 So what CNN right now, and they're showing the full one right now, they may have edited out a little bit of it there to kind of kind of loop it back through.
00:17:37.000 But they are spinning this as the cop should have known better.
00:17:40.000 He was totally fine.
00:17:41.000 And I'm like, this guy was in the street the whole time.
00:17:43.000 And do you hear what he yells?
00:17:44.000 Yeah.
00:17:45.000 And that, do you hear what he yells at the beginning of that clip at the officer?
00:17:47.000 He yells, play it again, Tim, for to a man, for people who don't hear this.
00:17:54.000 Do not touch me.
00:17:55.000 Now listen, there you go.
00:18:02.000 Do you hear that?
00:18:03.000 Here's what he's saying.
00:18:04.000 I'm here.
00:18:04.000 You are the one in traffic.
00:18:06.000 That's his job.
00:18:07.000 Would you tell that to a traffic cop?
00:18:09.000 So what does it show you?
00:18:11.000 This is someone who is there to start trouble.
00:18:13.000 This is someone who is looking for conflict.
00:18:15.000 This is someone who is looking to disrupt someone from doing their job.
00:18:19.000 And he was doing it all day, very much like Rene Goode, who was following and blocking traffic and got warnings.
00:18:26.000 These are crimes.
00:18:27.000 Right.
00:18:28.000 These are crimes.
00:18:29.000 You can have the conversation.
00:18:30.000 And that's what we're having right now as to whether the shoot was a bad shoot.
00:18:34.000 People, I think it was chaotic.
00:18:35.000 I think it's a bad situation, but I certainly don't think it crosses the threshold of unreasonable for someone to think that their life was in danger.
00:18:43.000 But the context now, what do we have that is a through line with Renee Goode and Alex Predi?
00:18:49.000 Not just that they were disrespectful.
00:18:51.000 Not just that they arguably committed assault against an officer.
00:18:54.000 Not just that they were a clear and present danger.
00:18:57.000 Not just that they were committing multiple crimes, including felonies leading up to it, but that they were doing this professionally all day.
00:19:08.000 They were treating it like their job to disrupt, to disturb, to impede, to obstruct.
00:19:16.000 We still don't have a single example of someone not doing that.
00:19:22.000 Meaning, you don't even have an example of somebody who accidentally finds themselves in the middle of the street being accosted by us.
00:19:29.000 The only people who have been shot have been people who actively, as though it's their profession, are committing crimes throughout the day.
00:19:40.000 Does that help you understand a little bit?
00:19:40.000 Comment below.
00:19:42.000 Just because there's going to be another one.
00:19:45.000 It's going to happen again.
00:19:46.000 And I want you to just think, why the start point?
00:19:50.000 Why the end point?
00:19:51.000 Why these time codes?
00:19:53.000 And then be aware as more footage comes out because I will tell you this, guarantee you the press had access to it.
00:19:53.000 Yeah.
00:19:59.000 No doubt in my mind.
00:20:00.000 Yeah, so there's two other things.
00:20:01.000 I just saw one on CNN, but this shows that the officers, one of the big things people have said is that, oh, they overreacted by shoving them.
00:20:09.000 That was an overreaction by the officers.
00:20:10.000 I was like, I don't even grant that.
00:20:12.000 But this puts that to bed.
00:20:14.000 I've already told them to get back on the sidewalk.
00:20:16.000 I've actually arrested one of these other people over here.
00:20:18.000 I've calmly put my hand on him and said, hey, you have to get out of the street.
00:20:22.000 Now he's doing it again.
00:20:23.000 So that kind of shows you why there was a little bit more force applied that second time.
00:20:28.000 Right now, CNN is saying sources Predi's rib was broken a week before he was killed when federal agents tackled him during a protest.
00:20:35.000 So this guy's doing this all the time?
00:20:37.000 Getting in tussles with these officers all the time, so much so that he got tackled and his rib got broken potentially.
00:20:45.000 I want to walk through an exercise.
00:20:46.000 That's a week ago.
00:20:47.000 We're just zooming out again.
00:20:48.000 As long as Gerald, you don't mind just walking over to me and people seeing your flood pants.
00:20:52.000 He's very tall.
00:20:52.000 He should buy custom pants.
00:20:54.000 This is what this would be.
00:20:55.000 And this is actually less of a distance travel.
00:20:58.000 Let's say Gerald comes over here and says, hey, Stephen, I need you to stay at your desk.
00:21:03.000 Okay, all right.
00:21:04.000 You should go to your desk.
00:21:05.000 Okay.
00:21:06.000 All right.
00:21:06.000 He's instructed me to stay at my desk.
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00:21:08.000 This is my vehicle.
00:21:09.000 He goes back.
00:21:09.000 All right.
00:21:11.000 Okay, you can go grab a seat.
00:21:12.000 Get yourself.
00:21:13.000 Make yourself comfortable.
00:21:17.000 Okay.
00:21:18.000 Now picture what I'm about to do three, four, five more times.
00:21:24.000 Walking over across the street.
00:21:28.000 Great whistle.
00:21:30.000 Fuck you, pig. 1.00
00:21:32.000 Fuck you, Gestapo.
00:21:34.000 Fuck you, Ice.
00:21:37.000 And that's going on all day.
00:21:41.000 All day.
00:21:43.000 You can argue that you don't want someone to be shot, but in no world can you argue that I am anything other than the aggressor and crossing the street to blow a whistle in the ear of ICE.
00:21:56.000 You do realize that members of ICE have experienced injuries as well, too.
00:22:01.000 You're aware of that?
00:22:02.000 Pierced eardrums, fractures, dislocated fingers.
00:22:07.000 We just sort of skim over that.
00:22:11.000 To what level should we tolerate aggression?
00:22:14.000 And that's never actually called out.
00:22:16.000 And the media lies to you nonstop.
00:22:18.000 You do not hate the media enough.
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00:22:40.000 So let's go into Minnesota before we have Nick Shorter on.
00:22:46.000 Here's one, actually.
00:22:48.000 This is just kind of a to cleanse a palate.
00:22:52.000 It's pretty funny.
00:22:53.000 Consider the PSA.
00:22:54.000 Remember, we used to have PSAs.
00:22:56.000 Comment if you remember, don't play with blasting caps.
00:22:58.000 Yeah.
00:22:58.000 I don't think many of those are still around.
00:22:59.000 No.
00:23:00.000 Fireworks.
00:23:01.000 You can also add to that list, don't play with flashbangs.
00:23:10.000 She grabbed the flashbang.
00:23:14.000 Did it break her leg?
00:23:15.000 Your legs work fine.
00:23:18.000 That kick gets your mind.
00:23:19.000 Oh, my God.
00:23:25.000 Oh, my God.
00:23:28.000 I'm laughing at the sound.
00:23:31.000 I feel like a bad person right now.
00:23:32.000 I don't really feel like you should be that surprised if you grab a flashbang or any variety of grenade and find it unpleasant.
00:23:40.000 I don't think you should flop around like you're playing World Cup soccer, though.
00:23:44.000 Ah!
00:23:45.000 Ah!
00:23:45.000 Go on, Madam!
00:23:47.000 Go on, Madam! 1.00
00:23:49.000 It wasn't unpleasant for like 20 yards that she was running.
00:23:53.000 I know.
00:23:53.000 Well, luckily, some of her brave comrades donated to make her whole again.
00:23:58.000 So, yeah, there you go.
00:24:01.000 See the tall fingers.
00:24:02.000 Oh, no.
00:24:04.000 Too big it though.
00:24:05.000 Perfect.
00:24:08.000 I'm sorry.
00:24:09.000 Yeah, don't be sorry.
00:24:11.000 Don't be sorry.
00:24:12.000 These people, don't grab a flashbang.
00:24:14.000 Don't be in a place where flashbangs may be used.
00:24:18.000 Certainly don't behave in a way that requires their use.
00:24:22.000 And if you have failed to follow instructions A and B, don't grab it.
00:24:28.000 That brings us to Minnesota Mayhem.
00:24:31.000 Minnesota!
00:24:37.000 Minnesota!
00:24:46.000 So, uh, I love that stinger.
00:24:49.000 Comment if I think top five stingers have all three.
00:24:52.000 We put that out on social.
00:24:53.000 Let's do this.
00:24:53.000 We did it in Windows Movie Maker.
00:24:56.000 Now I'm going to show you some of the media male practice. 0.97
00:25:00.000 Hopefully that set it up for you.
00:25:01.000 We understand.
00:25:02.000 Keep in mind the time codes.
00:25:04.000 But that's not enough.
00:25:05.000 They have to go even further.
00:25:06.000 Now, for those of you confused, MSNBC is MS Now.
00:25:09.000 I thought it was a channel for people with the condition.
00:25:14.000 Turns out they thought this was a good name for a network.
00:25:14.000 Wow.
00:25:17.000 Yeah, well, I guess that multiple.
00:25:21.000 What's multiple sclerosis?
00:25:22.000 What's the other one?
00:25:22.000 Multiple sclerosis?
00:25:24.000 What's the other one?
00:25:25.000 What's Jerry Lewis's kids?
00:25:26.000 Is that MS?
00:25:27.000 Lou Gehrig's?
00:25:29.000 I don't know.
00:25:30.000 I guess Lou Gehrig's tonight was taken.
00:25:32.000 So this is MS Now running this segment again lying to you. 1.00
00:25:32.000 It's an aside. 1.00
00:25:37.000 Was 37-year-old Alex Predi, an ICU nurse who cared for veterans.
00:25:43.000 Donald Trump and his cabinet, his administration, are demanding once again that you not believe your eyes and ears.
00:25:51.000 Well, I don't believe my eyes when I'm watching MS Now because the internet picked up on something.
00:25:56.000 And thank you guys for the investigative journalism.
00:25:58.000 Look at what they did with that picture.
00:26:00.000 Look at the side-by-side.
00:26:04.000 See what they changed?
00:26:11.000 Forgot whiter teeth.
00:26:13.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 They changed the look of him.
00:26:16.000 So weird.
00:26:17.000 Now, I don't know that this necessarily changes a story if he's sort of sickly and feeble and unattractive to semi-Chad, but it just shows that the left can't help themselves.
00:26:29.000 And yes, the media and the left are one and the same.
00:26:30.000 They can't help themselves when it comes to any opportunity to lie to you.
00:26:36.000 Keep in mind, this is not the first time that they did this.
00:26:39.000 And how often do they say, oh, it was an oversight?
00:26:41.000 Or, oh, we were just polishing the picture.
00:26:42.000 Remember Joe Rogan on CNN?
00:26:45.000 Like, how do all of the accidents, all the mistakes line up in the left's favor, the narrative of the left, and against the right?
00:26:54.000 In that case, Joe Rogan.
00:26:56.000 Hey, it's just an accident that he looks more sickly while we're saying that he's using horse paste as opposed to one of the most popular human prescriptions on earth, one of the most prescribed medications on earth.
00:27:07.000 Hey, no, it just so happens.
00:27:08.000 I mean, the accident in this case, we didn't do it with the ICE agent.
00:27:11.000 We haven't done it with anyone on the right, but it just so happens that we have airbrushed and changed and put through a filter and potentially AI made the leftist look more attractive.
00:27:23.000 These are accidents.
00:27:25.000 Let's go through more malpractice. 1.00
00:27:27.000 And you wonder why Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
00:27:30.000 Here was a leftist on Jake Tapper's show.
00:27:33.000 He didn't want to go along with it, but he kind of did.
00:27:36.000 He should have ended the segment.
00:27:37.000 This guest claimed that ICE is putting people in concentration camps and maybe eventually, I mean, you know, ovens.
00:27:47.000 not going to i'm not here to defend ice but i i'm not a big fan of people using the term concentration camp to describe detention camps that's a that's a very specific meaning in terms I understand that, but they take people to Fort Snelling here, which literally was built as a concentration camp, and Alligator Alcatraz, which I think we can all agree is a concentration camp.
00:28:09.000 Not saying they're Dachau.
00:28:10.000 I'm not saying they're putting people in ovens yet, but these are concentration camps.
00:28:15.000 Okay.
00:28:18.000 I don't need to argue with you about that.
00:28:20.000 Actually, you do need to argue your point.
00:28:22.000 Ovens yet.
00:28:23.000 Also, you need to argue that you are not, in fact, Richard from Silicon Valley if he grew up in a sewer.
00:28:29.000 I don't know how ovens yet.
00:28:33.000 Please tell me, because that is an extreme statement.
00:28:35.000 Yeah.
00:28:36.000 What information do you have to substantiate that there's any risk whatsoever of the Trump administration putting people in human-sized ovens?
00:28:46.000 Oh, you're just throwing it out there.
00:28:48.000 And then you'll say that the right is irresponsible with their rhetoric.
00:28:51.000 For example, using the legal term illegal alien.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:55.000 By the way, listen, he owns a bookstore, Steve, and he knows his stuff.
00:28:58.000 It's called Moon Palace Books.
00:28:59.000 I'm not kidding.
00:29:00.000 It was on the shirt there.
00:29:01.000 They get nothing but the best when he gets to the bottom.
00:29:02.000 Moon Palace Books.
00:29:05.000 So a dead medium with a gay name.
00:29:07.000 Pretty much.
00:29:07.000 Yes.
00:29:07.000 Got it.
00:29:08.000 Put him on CNN.
00:29:10.000 I guess Barnes and Pokemon was taken.
00:29:10.000 He's ready.
00:29:16.000 I will say there's been some bad press, obviously.
00:29:18.000 In ICE, they still have to play the optics game.
00:29:20.000 So with what they've been dealing with lately, they have contemplated a rebranding for a fresh start.
00:29:25.000 And I will say, you know, it's maybe a miss.
00:29:29.000 I like it, actually.
00:29:31.000 Now, more irresponsible misinformation.
00:29:35.000 This happened Sunday.
00:29:37.000 I don't think we ran it because yesterday, you know, a lot of people weren't in.
00:29:39.000 Tim Walz, he too used or invoked Holocaust type imagery, hysteria, during a press conference.
00:29:47.000 A governor.
00:29:49.000 We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside.
00:29:56.000 Many of you screw up reading that story of Anne Frank.
00:29:56.000 You're saying that.
00:29:59.000 It's also eight degrees.
00:30:00.000 Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.
00:30:04.000 And there's one person who can end this now.
00:30:08.000 Tim Walz.
00:30:11.000 Yeah, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum responded with, I mean, I can summarize, don't do that.
00:30:18.000 That's basically it, yes.
00:30:20.000 But they said, you know, Anne Frank was targeted and murdered solely because she was Jewish leaders making false equivalencies to her experience for political purposes is never acceptable, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:27.000 But basically, hey, don't do that, you prick.
00:30:30.000 Please stop doing that.
00:30:31.000 So what do we have here?
00:30:33.000 Before we even get to the discussion that matters as to the legitimate purview of government, when the left will say, like, hey, we used to be able to have, you know, disagreements, things are so polarized.
00:30:43.000 Well, sure, because we used to have disagreements over, for example, marginal tax rates or the rate at which we spend to build up our defense or maybe the most effective way to deport illegal aliens and what we do with perhaps the children who through no fault of their own find themselves in a sticky situation.
00:31:05.000 The reason we can't have disagreements like the good old days is because you invoke the Holocaust and because you deliberately mislead the public with selective editing and you do it multiple times and you accuse hardworking Americans who are trying to do their job of being gestapo. 0.59
00:31:23.000 Well, we can't have a discussion on immigration.
00:31:27.000 Let me put a finer point on it.
00:31:29.000 We can't have a discussion as to where the line is or what's appropriate when you won't let us go into your prisons to deport illegal aliens currently in your custody who have committed additional violent crimes.
00:31:46.000 I'm not going to try and find common ground with these people.
00:31:48.000 I think Nick DiPaolo actually summarized it perfectly.
00:31:51.000 The Democrat Party, I don't even know that they're a legitimate party at this point.
00:31:57.000 It could be argued, certainly, when they are refusing to allow federal law to be enforced, that they have become an enemy of the state and they should be brought up on charges.
00:32:07.000 This has been Minnesota Mayhem.
00:32:24.000 And Nick Shorter will be on the show in just about 15 minutes or so.
00:32:29.000 Did the button?
00:32:30.000 No, it's still there.
00:32:30.000 It's holding true.
00:32:31.000 Oh, there you go.
00:32:32.000 But before that, look, who is the hottest first lady of all time? 1.00
00:32:36.000 It's not a trick question.
00:32:36.000 The answer is Melania Trump.
00:32:37.000 It's not even close.
00:32:39.000 You could maybe make a case for Betty Ford. 0.59
00:32:43.000 One point.
00:32:45.000 Jackie?
00:32:46.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:32:47.000 Van Buren.
00:32:50.000 When I look at old Zepia pictures of Van Buren, I just find myself getting very comfortable. 1.00
00:32:56.000 No, it is absolutely Melania Trump, which brings us to, of course, we don't actually take super chats.
00:32:56.000 Very strange.
00:33:01.000 You can either subscribe or not, but we do give them away.
00:33:04.000 Time for reverse super chat.
00:33:08.000 So the folks at Amazon MGM Studio, they are giving away right now 50 free Rumble Premium subscriptions.
00:33:14.000 They were just gifted in the chat because they actually, right now, they have a new film out that takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration with Melania Trump.
00:33:26.000 And I will tell you this: I'm a fan of President Trump.
00:33:29.000 I think he's a great president.
00:33:30.000 I'd rather watch Melania on my screen.
00:33:34.000 So, respectfully.
00:33:35.000 It is in theaters January 30th.
00:33:37.000 You can vote with your dollar.
00:33:38.000 Go show some support if you were just gifted a subscription.
00:33:40.000 Hey, take a screenshot.
00:33:41.000 Tag me on X or Instagram.
00:33:43.000 The film Melania.
00:33:44.000 Like, share, just one name.
00:33:47.000 Go see it.
00:33:48.000 And of course, the answer is: most attractive first lady of all time is Melania Trump. 1.00
00:33:52.000 There isn't even a distant second.
00:33:54.000 Stop it.
00:33:55.000 Reverse Super Chat.
00:33:56.000 Done.
00:34:00.000 I mean, this is not one, right, where we have to have a discussion.
00:34:03.000 No, it's just there's one who was paid for being hot. 0.85
00:34:03.000 There's no discussion. 0.85
00:34:07.000 Oh, yeah, that's it.
00:34:09.000 That's fair.
00:34:09.000 Yeah.
00:34:10.000 And when you say Melania, you don't have to say anything.
00:34:12.000 You know exactly who we're talking about.
00:34:13.000 When you say Melania, people go, oh, but I know.
00:34:13.000 Yeah.
00:34:16.000 Well, she's beautiful, but very classy as well. 1.00
00:34:17.000 Yeah, she is.
00:34:18.000 Like, very classy.
00:34:19.000 And you know what's funny?
00:34:19.000 Is people will be like, yeah, the only first lady I've seen nude.
00:34:22.000 Have you looked at like her, her, you know, risque photos?
00:34:26.000 That's less than Instagram now.
00:34:28.000 Yeah.
00:34:28.000 Really?
00:34:28.000 I mean, the truth is, too, nude paintings, nude pictures, it isn't necessarily pornographic.
00:34:32.000 That's something.
00:34:33.000 The human form is beautiful.
00:34:34.000 I mean, Christians were painting naked people for a very long time. 0.98
00:34:36.000 I'm not saying that you should go out and do it, but what I'm saying is you go on Instagram, it's way worse than a professional model who is being paid for gifts that God gave them.
00:34:48.000 Let's be honest.
00:34:48.000 If someone pays you to be a model, they're going, I am paying you for God's gift.
00:34:53.000 You've done nothing to earn this.
00:34:55.000 It's just, I'm basically paying God.
00:34:56.000 It's a tithe.
00:34:58.000 I don't think so.
00:35:00.000 It's not quite how it works, but anyway.
00:35:02.000 Pretty much.
00:35:04.000 I'll say this.
00:35:05.000 So, Melania.
00:35:09.000 Melania, Melania.
00:35:10.000 I've just met a girl named Melania.
00:35:13.000 That's a good thing, is it?
00:35:14.000 Yeah, Maria, but I changed it to Melania.
00:35:16.000 It is now.
00:35:16.000 That's what I do is I change it.
00:35:18.000 Just make it your own.
00:35:19.000 Yeah, make it relevant.
00:35:20.000 I put my own little spin on it.
00:35:20.000 Okay.
00:35:21.000 I like it.
00:35:22.000 All right.
00:35:23.000 So this next installment here, again, I'll refresh the question.
00:35:30.000 Do you think that President Trump is pulling back?
00:35:32.000 Are you disappointed?
00:35:33.000 Do you think it's 8D chess?
00:35:35.000 What do you think is happening right now?
00:35:38.000 I'm going to recap it and give you my opinion.
00:35:41.000 And then we'll have Nick Shorter on because there has been quite a bit of confusion over the last 24 hours.
00:35:45.000 You are going to see two camps on what's going on in Minnesota.
00:35:49.000 You will see, and there are these people, the sycophants, who will say that President Trump can do no wrong.
00:35:55.000 This is another art of the deal, period.
00:35:58.000 And most of the time, you can see that at work, for example, when you look at NATO.
00:36:02.000 I don't necessarily know that that is what is happening right now.
00:36:05.000 And if it is, the communication certainly has not been anywhere near as effective or as clear as it has been in past negotiations.
00:36:14.000 So that's one group.
00:36:15.000 The next group is going to be the Taco Group.
00:36:17.000 Taco Trump chickened out.
00:36:19.000 See?
00:36:20.000 Look, he folded.
00:36:22.000 Which one is correct?
00:36:24.000 We don't really know yet.
00:36:28.000 That's the simple answer.
00:36:30.000 But I will say this: we have millions of people who watch every single day.
00:36:34.000 And so, what I've chosen to do is talk as though people in the administration are listening because I know quite a few are.
00:36:43.000 And we are going to present what we would like to see done.
00:36:48.000 So, is it backing down or is it part of the strategy?
00:36:51.000 Yesterday, President Trump posted a couple of truths: one regarding Tim Walz: Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota.
00:37:01.000 It was a very good call, and we actually seem to be on the same wavelength.
00:37:05.000 I told Governor Walls that I would have Tom Homan call him, and that we are looking for what we are looking for, sorry, our Eddie and all criminals that they have in their possession.
00:37:15.000 The governor very respectfully understood that.
00:37:18.000 I don't think that he did understand that because he's rejected that repeatedly.
00:37:23.000 And then he ended with, He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota, and so am I.
00:37:28.000 And as we hear it, they have some outdoorsy time planned.
00:37:31.000 So that should be well hey.
00:37:36.000 Then a truth regarding Jacob Fry.
00:37:39.000 If I say Frey, just know it's just very hard for me to read his name and not say Frey.
00:37:44.000 So, regarding Jacob Fry.
00:37:47.000 Fry.
00:37:48.000 Just had a very good telephone conversation with Mayor Jacob Fry.
00:37:52.000 I have to give you his title, otherwise, you wouldn't know him.
00:37:56.000 Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis, lots of progress is being made.
00:38:01.000 Tom Homan will be meeting with him tomorrow in order to continue the discussion.
00:38:06.000 And we hear that they too have some outdoorsy time planned.
00:38:09.000 So, okay.
00:38:13.000 And then, of course, we'll get to them claiming victory.
00:38:16.000 By the way, tune in 11 a.m. Eastern.
00:38:17.000 If you're watching, I know you may be watching a clip.
00:38:19.000 We do this live at 11 a.m. Eastern.
00:38:21.000 You know, how a broadcast used to be done.
00:38:23.000 Yeah, come hang out with us.
00:38:24.000 The next piece of information that trickled out yesterday, and we'll have Nick Shorter on to hopefully clarify, was that Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino had been ousted.
00:38:35.000 So this came from the Atlantic.
00:38:37.000 Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol Commander at large and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change.
00:38:51.000 The communication hasn't been that great because then Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt gave kind of a lukewarm pushback saying, well, no, no, he's not really being relieved, but we still don't know what that actually is.
00:39:02.000 I had a question.
00:39:04.000 With Homan now going to Minnesota, is Gregory Bovino also going to remain in Minnesota overseeing these ICE operations?
00:39:12.000 Mr. Bovino is a wonderful man and he's a great professional.
00:39:16.000 He is going to very much continue to lead customs and border patrol throughout and across the country.
00:39:21.000 Mr. Holman will be the main point of contact on the ground in Minneapolis.
00:39:24.000 To follow up, given what we've heard from several Trump administration officials, people like Stephen Miller, as people point out, calling him a domestic terrorist, but saying that Prenti was out to massacre law enforcement, why not require ICE agents to wear body cameras to clear up some of the disputes that we're hearing from witnesses and video footage versus what the administration has been saying.
00:39:48.000 So not super clear.
00:39:50.000 Here's what seems to be actually, and Nick Shorter is going to hopefully clarify that because he was the one who broke the story initially, as I understand it yesterday.
00:39:58.000 What's happening, though, now in Minnesota?
00:40:01.000 Well, you have the Democrats spinning this as a victory.
00:40:04.000 That's not a good thing.
00:40:04.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:40:05.000 I am a big fan of Tom Holman.
00:40:06.000 He's been on the show.
00:40:07.000 He's a friend of the show.
00:40:08.000 There's no world in which someone says, send in Holman and I'm upset.
00:40:13.000 I also understand that you cannot let the left smell blood in the water, where if they can spin it into a victory and they can make it seem like you're scared, well, then we end up with billions of dollars in damages and thousands of casualties in the summer of love and ICE agents being assaulted.
00:40:28.000 So there's nothing wrong with Tom Holman.
00:40:29.000 I think Tom Holman is probably best in any of these scenarios.
00:40:32.000 That's why he has that job.
00:40:34.000 But the Democrats spinning this, this is Walls less than two hours after the truth, where he actually, and can you guys, I believe this is from, is this from Walls or is this from the Wall Street Journal?
00:40:45.000 Someone can let me know.
00:40:46.000 It says, federal officers are lying.
00:40:48.000 My state's corrections department honors all immigration detainers. 0.99
00:40:52.000 So here's the article, and this is how he wrote it.
00:40:54.000 I know this may seem confusing, but he writes a claim truth, the way we kind of lay out the show.
00:40:59.000 Wall Street Journal, yeah.
00:41:00.000 He wrote, the claim, the Trump admit claims that 1,369 U.S. citizens are in Minnesota prisons.
00:41:07.000 The truth, our total state prison population is roughly 8,000.
00:41:10.000 Only 207 of them are non-citizens.
00:41:13.000 Well, okay.
00:41:15.000 I need to clarify some numbers, but here's the first one that I can very easily clarify and check the references, link in the description.
00:41:21.000 Here's the truth.
00:41:21.000 Tim Walz knows he's lying.
00:41:24.000 He knows that he's lying because Minnesota's total incarcerated population is over 17,000.
00:41:29.000 About 17,500.
00:41:31.000 So when he says, our total state prison population is roughly 8,000, no, the number of incarcerated is 17,500.
00:41:31.000 Oh, crap.
00:41:41.000 And then that brings us to DHS's actual wording.
00:41:43.000 They didn't say prison population.
00:41:46.000 They said, we are calling on Governor Walls and Mayor Fry to honor the more than 1,360 detainers of the illegal aliens in Minnesota jails.
00:41:56.000 So detainers means prisons and jails and other people being held in custody.
00:42:04.000 Tim Walz took that and said, well, you know, I know they're lying because our state prison population, hold on, not just state prison.
00:42:11.000 Are there any other prisons?
00:42:12.000 Are there any other jails?
00:42:14.000 He knows that he's lying and he knows that he's misleading you.
00:42:17.000 This is what we see going on repeatedly.
00:42:20.000 He also wrote this in the article.
00:42:21.000 I have repeatedly appealed to President Trump to lower the temperature, but he refuses.
00:42:25.000 I fear that his hope is for a tension between ICE agents and the communities they've ran, they're ransacking to boil over.
00:42:32.000 You know, and he wants you to see more chaos on your TV screens.
00:42:35.000 Protests turn into riots.
00:42:37.000 More people get hurt.
00:42:38.000 Yeah, because that would be so out of character for the people of Minneapolis.
00:42:43.000 Does this, by the way, sound like turning down the temperature?
00:42:47.000 Donald Trump's modern-day Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
00:42:52.000 This federal occupation of Minnesota long ago stopped being a matter of immigration enforcement to stop brutality against the people of our state.
00:43:01.000 They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
00:43:05.000 The war that's being waged against Minnesota, you're seeing it.
00:43:08.000 We have a ridiculous surge of apparently 2,000 people not coordinating with us that are for a show of the cameras.
00:43:15.000 Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotans, not just to establish a record for posterity, but to bank evidence for future prosecution.
00:43:25.000 I don't think any governor in history has had to fight a war against the federal government.
00:43:29.000 No chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans, and disappeared.
00:43:37.000 Quit referring to these people as law enforcement.
00:43:39.000 They are not law enforcement.
00:43:41.000 We have law enforcement who do an incredible job.
00:43:45.000 So let me just go through that.
00:43:46.000 Gestapo, these thugs, unmarked vehicles, torture dungeons, atrocities being committed against Minnesotans.
00:43:55.000 Minnesota is at war with the federal government, and these people are not law enforcement.
00:44:00.000 You tell me, if, let's just assume that people believe that.
00:44:06.000 How do you tone down temperatures?
00:44:08.000 Let's just assume that people believe non-law enforcement in unmarked vehicles acting as Gestapo, who are at war with Minnesota, are taking people to torture dungeons.
00:44:22.000 If I believed that was taking place, I would be waging a civil war.
00:44:29.000 I don't know how they can act as though their own constituents would do any different.
00:44:33.000 Let's go to Jacob Fry.
00:44:35.000 He spun this as a victory.
00:44:37.000 He posted this on X.
00:44:38.000 He wrote, I spoke with President Trump today and appreciated the conversation.
00:44:42.000 I expressed how much Minneapolis has benefited from our immigrant communities and was clear that my main ask is that Operation MetroSurge needs to end.
00:44:50.000 The president agreed the present situation can't continue.
00:44:53.000 Some federal agents will begin leaving the area tomorrow, and I will continue pushing for the rest involved in this operation to go.
00:45:00.000 So you combine all that and you go, oh, okay, so the victory of Fry and Tim Walz against Gestapo in unmarked vehicles committing atrocities against Minnesotans who are waging war against the people of Minnesota, definitely not law enforcement, whisking them away to torture dungeons.
00:45:23.000 And so you've been beating them off.
00:45:24.000 You've been winning.
00:45:25.000 Well, what do you think happens?
00:45:26.000 Well, of course, you embolden the rioters, but Minnesota is as Minnesota do.
00:45:43.000 Oh, that's an emboldened woman. 0.99
00:45:47.000 You traitors.
00:45:48.000 No fear of consequences.
00:46:05.000 You continue to obstruct, resist, or interfere with the police officers.
00:46:10.000 You will be in violation of Minnesota State Statute 609.50, obstructing the legal process.
00:46:19.000 Just take them to jail. 0.52
00:46:23.000 I'm getting in my car.
00:46:26.000 I'm getting in my car.
00:46:28.000 You're just a small test.
00:46:30.000 Oh my gosh, it's so lazy.
00:46:32.000 And you have a small penis. 0.94
00:46:34.000 You know what would absolutely destroy that woman's self-esteem? 1.00
00:46:37.000 Just grab the love handle, go, no Zempic yet, huh? 1.00
00:46:43.000 Tiny dick? 1.00
00:46:44.000 Sure.
00:46:45.000 Let me guess.
00:46:46.000 Single?
00:46:47.000 Your cat's going to eat you when you die.
00:46:50.000 Immediately, by the way, cats don't even wait.
00:46:52.000 And check all the references.
00:46:53.000 Here's the thing: facts, they don't exist in a vacuum.
00:46:57.000 Context matters.
00:46:59.000 Who would be at fault, right?
00:47:00.000 If this was happening everywhere, you'd go, okay, well, obviously it's the federal authorities.
00:47:04.000 But it's not.
00:47:05.000 It's not.
00:47:06.000 It's happening in places like Minnesota.
00:47:08.000 It's not happening in places like Texas or Florida.
00:47:10.000 So give an idea.
00:47:10.000 In Minnesota, there's about 100, 230,000 illegal aliens.
00:47:13.000 In Texas, there's 2 million.
00:47:15.000 Florida, there's 1 to around 1.6 million.
00:47:17.000 Then you look at the deportations.
00:47:19.000 Minnesota, there's only been 10,000.
00:47:20.000 In Texas, there's been approximately 60,000.
00:47:23.000 Florida, there's been about 23,000.
00:47:25.000 A lot of self-deportations, obviously, which aren't necessarily broken down by state.
00:47:30.000 What does that mean as far as Minnesota's performance?
00:47:34.000 Well, we can look at the total number of ICE incidents.
00:47:36.000 Nine counties accounted for two-thirds of all violent incidents involving ICE officials.
00:47:42.000 Interesting.
00:47:43.000 Chicago, LA, and Minneapolis, and they're all anywhere between 20 to 30 incidents.
00:47:49.000 And Minneapolis, obviously, substantially smaller than those places.
00:47:54.000 And here's the thing.
00:47:55.000 And none of those places cooperate with ICE, right?
00:47:59.000 Right.
00:47:59.000 Oh.
00:48:00.000 Maybe there's a through line here.
00:48:02.000 So we can now look at the common denominator, right?
00:48:02.000 Right.
00:48:06.000 We go, okay, well, federal authorities, well, there aren't incidents everywhere.
00:48:09.000 And they're doing this wherever it is appropriate.
00:48:12.000 And it seems as though it's happening pretty peacefully, except for a few key cases.
00:48:15.000 We're talking about sanctuary cities.
00:48:15.000 Oh, that's right.
00:48:17.000 We're talking about governors.
00:48:18.000 We're talking about mayors who are stoking the flames.
00:48:21.000 And I'll bring you to what the end result is, but just for some visual aids, here, compare Minneapolis to how Florida deals with it.
00:48:28.000 They nip it in the bud right away.
00:48:30.000 This is not Minneapolis.
00:48:31.000 That is not going to end well for you in Florida.
00:48:34.000 But the idea that you're going to assault one of our troopers is unacceptable and you are going to face consequences as a result of that.
00:48:42.000 I am not afraid.
00:48:44.000 I am not afraid.
00:48:46.000 I will fight for liberation because I know why I was made with my assistant.
00:48:51.000 Why are you being arrested?
00:48:52.000 Keep saying it.
00:48:53.000 When you're arrested for peacefully protesting the horrible treatment for blocking a roadway.
00:48:58.000 By ICE agents.
00:49:00.000 It's called obstruction.
00:49:02.000 You can hear the whistles, sirens, and the angry chants of protesters as a person was handcuffed on the ground outside of an ICE office in Orlando.
00:49:11.000 Another angle shows the same moment.
00:49:14.000 Dozens of state troopers surrounded the protester and blocked the street.
00:49:18.000 Same on you.
00:49:22.000 Oh, nice.
00:49:27.000 They could have given it a little more pop, but I'm okay with it.
00:49:29.000 We'll let it go.
00:49:30.000 So they nip it in the bud, right?
00:49:32.000 Hey, I'm going to take Tim Walton's work.
00:49:33.000 Let's cool down temperatures.
00:49:35.000 Yeah.
00:49:35.000 All right, good.
00:49:36.000 Maybe if you do what Florida does, maybe if you do what Texas does, you could avoid the over $500 million in damages that the George Floyd riots alone inflicted upon your municipality.
00:49:48.000 Or the COVID fraud, $650 million statewide.
00:49:51.000 Or the Somali fraud, $9 billion statewide. 0.83
00:49:55.000 That's a significant chunk of change.
00:49:59.000 So see, not to mention the thousands of casualties, injuries, businesses that will never come back.
00:50:04.000 It is not compassionate to let people behave like children.
00:50:08.000 If your child is about to do something dangerous, you tell them to stop and you count to three.
00:50:13.000 Is it compassionate to not enforce it?
00:50:17.000 They hurt themselves.
00:50:18.000 Now, what if they're hurting other people's kids?
00:50:20.000 President Trump cannot back down on Minnesota.
00:50:23.000 He cannot set a tone of capitulation.
00:50:26.000 That will then be a cancer that infects the rest of the country.
00:50:30.000 We have seen what that looks like.
00:50:32.000 We have had to deal with the ramifications.
00:50:35.000 That is exactly what Minnesota, what Minneapolis wants.
00:50:40.000 Yeah.
00:50:40.000 No.
00:50:41.000 We have to condemn that.
00:50:42.000 We have to make sure that people know it not only will not be rewarded, it will be punished and it is going to hurt.
00:50:50.000 So I don't know exactly what is going on right now.
00:50:53.000 The communication is not very good from this administration.
00:50:55.000 They could do better.
00:50:57.000 You guys need to hold strong.
00:50:59.000 Follow through so that people see the end results.
00:51:03.000 Because people have seen the end results with Minneapolis, George Floyd, Somali Daycare Fraud. 0.98
00:51:08.000 They have seen it.
00:51:09.000 They don't like it.
00:51:10.000 It's tough right now.
00:51:11.000 I get it.
00:51:12.000 The road is a little bit rough.
00:51:14.000 Stay the course so that people can see the yield.
00:51:17.000 Otherwise, it's all for nothing.
00:51:18.000 Yeah.
00:51:18.000 And it wouldn't be nearly as rough if police just cooperated and helped out, right?
00:51:22.000 And we have Nick coming on in just a few minutes here.
00:51:24.000 I'll let you know when he's on.
00:51:25.000 But if anything, right now, I think it's Maple Grove, right?
00:51:30.000 The footage that we're seeing of the police finally showing up and doing something about some of the rioters and protesters and arresting some people.
00:51:37.000 And you see officers rushing and you're like, where was this?
00:51:40.000 Yeah.
00:51:41.000 Where was this from the very beginning?
00:51:42.000 Do you remember the other night, the Home Two Suites?
00:51:44.000 There was one guy bleeding standing in the doorway.
00:51:47.000 A part of the story that I read, and I have to confirm this, is that he ran up there to provide assistance.
00:51:52.000 He was defending the staff, him and his buddy, and it was just those two guys.
00:51:56.000 Then it was down to one.
00:51:57.000 And I think his buddy came back and they're just like, where are the local police officers to help us out here?
00:52:02.000 We're just trying to protect people in this building.
00:52:05.000 And finally, they did.
00:52:06.000 And so a lot of us on X were just like, finally, you sent in the police, man.
00:52:09.000 If you had done this from the very beginning, do you think some people might still be alive?
00:52:13.000 Do you think if maybe you had encouraged your citizens instead to go out and break the law and stand in the road and harass ICE officers and get in the way and physically accost them, maybe some people would be alive and officers wouldn't have had to defend their lives in these situations.
00:52:25.000 How do they take no responsibility for that?
00:52:27.000 I know.
00:52:28.000 How do they not go, you know what?
00:52:29.000 The police are here for a reason.
00:52:31.000 We got some criminals over here and we know they don't belong in this country.
00:52:34.000 We're just going to let them go.
00:52:35.000 Let me ask you this too.
00:52:36.000 Yeah, it's a very good point.
00:52:38.000 And they keep invoking January 6th.
00:52:40.000 They go, oh, the worst day.
00:52:42.000 Objectively, have you seen more assaults committed in Minneapolis over the last week than all of January 6th?
00:52:50.000 Not even including the Summer of Love Riots, right?
00:52:52.000 Objectively, you've seen far more, haven't you?
00:52:54.000 You've seen far more acts of violence, and you've certainly seen far more acts of violence committed against fellow American citizens, for example, staff at the hotel.
00:53:04.000 Let's just stop.
00:53:05.000 They want you to, their goal is to twist you into pretzels and really to make you sort of make it so that's of your own doing.
00:53:13.000 Don't go, no, no, no.
00:53:14.000 We have the right to enforce the law.
00:53:16.000 You guys are refusing to enforce the law.
00:53:18.000 You're actually trying to stop us from enforcing the law.
00:53:19.000 We are going to enforce the law.
00:53:20.000 You don't have the right to do that.
00:53:22.000 And I think the message needs to be so clear and so forceful that if you don't let us enforce the law, we're going to arrest you because that too is the law.
00:53:29.000 You cannot back up on this.
00:53:32.000 And I would be championing this from the rooftops if I was in this administration.
00:53:37.000 Find me one example, one example of people making their voices heard peacefully, not obstructing a roadway, traffic, ICE from doing their job, being physically accosted and abused.
00:53:52.000 It's not a thing.
00:53:53.000 No, it's not.
00:53:54.000 And you're 100% right.
00:53:55.000 I think we have Nick in two minutes.
00:53:56.000 Okay.
00:53:56.000 He'll be on.
00:53:57.000 So really quickly, one of the reasons you can't back down is this statement that we just saw from, I believe, the city of Buffalo on whether they're going to cooperate with ICE.
00:54:05.000 So it says, this is the caption from Breaking 911 on X. Mayor of Buffalo, New York, Sean Ryan, has signed an executive order restricting ICE operations and limiting local cooperation.
00:54:16.000 There we go.
00:54:17.000 Cities around the country doing the exact opposite of what you do if you want to protect your citizens, make people safe, and make sure you get rid of illegal criminals that are in your possession some way, somehow.
00:54:28.000 That's the exact opposite of what you do.
00:54:30.000 So I really hope the Trump administration is taking notes.
00:54:33.000 Listen, this is painful.
00:54:34.000 Don't absorb all of the hits and then give them exactly what they want because you've already taken the hits and the damage.
00:54:42.000 Follow through, be done with it.
00:54:43.000 If I was an advisor to Trump right now, I would say, look, okay, I get it.
00:54:45.000 At this point, if people say taco, if you feel like the optics maybe look as though you've chickened out, now really, really drill down on, okay, we're giving them an opportunity to hand over all of the incarcerated, all of the detained criminals.
00:55:00.000 And then the second they don't, you go, we're going back in and do so more aggressively.
00:55:03.000 Say, well, this is why, because we acted in good faith.
00:55:06.000 They said they would hand over the criminals.
00:55:07.000 That's what this was about.
00:55:08.000 They wouldn't let us give you an opportunity to educate the public.
00:55:12.000 They wouldn't let us actually, they wouldn't give us the criminals in their custody.
00:55:17.000 So we were under the impression that they were going to.
00:55:19.000 They still refuse to.
00:55:20.000 And now we're back to square one.
00:55:22.000 There you go.
00:55:23.000 There's your chance.
00:55:24.000 And you get to, you get to waltz in with that messaging.
00:55:30.000 So the American public go, well, I thought they were leaving.
00:55:32.000 Why are they back in?
00:55:34.000 Oh, wait.
00:55:35.000 Active criminals who are detained, they haven't been handed over.
00:55:40.000 There is an opportunity here.
00:55:41.000 Yeah.
00:55:42.000 But you're going to see a whole lot more of that if the perception is that this administration is weak or that they will throw their own people under the bus.
00:55:50.000 It doesn't even have to be real.
00:55:51.000 If the perception is that you will get whole cities who refuse to play ball.
00:55:55.000 And I know that Nick Shorter is coming on.
00:55:56.000 So let me set this up with a clip.
00:55:57.000 If you're on X, you know Nick Shorter.
00:56:01.000 He does work on the ground, right in the thick of it, right?
00:56:04.000 Boots on the ground action reporting.
00:56:05.000 He's been an incredibly prominent voice with Minnesota.
00:56:10.000 And you guys, sometimes it's easy to sort of see someone on social media and not think of what they may have to go through.
00:56:17.000 It doesn't come without risks.
00:56:20.000 He risks his actual person every time he goes out there.
00:56:24.000 In this video, I think, drive that home.
00:56:39.000 Get out of the way! 0.99
00:56:41.000 get out of the way and the thing with clips like that is what you don't see is just how easily it could have gone the other way How easily someone forgets to lock their windows or lock their door.
00:57:03.000 Someone gets in.
00:57:05.000 Nick Sortor's not alive anymore.
00:57:08.000 Wouldn't be the first time that happened.
00:57:10.000 Or maimed.
00:57:11.000 Or has to live with a permanent injury.
00:57:14.000 We saw that with a summer of love, thousands of casualties, including dozens of deaths.
00:57:19.000 So I believe that we do have him here on the line.
00:57:23.000 He just stepped away from his chair.
00:57:25.000 All right.
00:57:26.000 Come on.
00:57:26.000 He will be here momentarily.
00:57:27.000 Well, then I'm going to introduce him anyway and act as though he is at his chair.
00:57:34.000 Independent journalist.
00:57:35.000 He's Nick Shorter on X.
00:57:37.000 And as I understand it, he has some new information for us.
00:57:39.000 Let's welcome a chair or the person, Nick Shorter.
00:57:47.000 Oh, okay, there he is.
00:57:48.000 Okay, I'm glad it wasn't just a chair.
00:57:51.000 Very nice.
00:57:52.000 How are you, Nick?
00:57:54.000 I'm sorry.
00:57:54.000 It's been a busy morning, man.
00:57:57.000 There's a lot, a lot going on, especially in Minneapolis.
00:58:01.000 It's not all good, unfortunately, but we're still going to fight for mass deportations.
00:58:08.000 It's not a lost cause.
00:58:09.000 I'm just not liking the way it's looking right now.
00:58:11.000 How about that?
00:58:12.000 No, I think you're absolutely right.
00:58:13.000 Even the perception of weakness or the perception of backing down is not great.
00:58:17.000 And as I understand it, you were the one who, by the way, people can follow you, of course, Nick Sortor on X. Is there another place where you want to direct people to support you?
00:58:26.000 X is typically the place because every other platform will just ban me.
00:58:29.000 I do have an Instagram.
00:58:30.000 Just I don't use it very much because it's like, you know, why bother if every time you post something that's remotely edgy, it gets community striped or whatever it is.
00:58:40.000 So X is really the main platform.
00:58:42.000 No, don't sell your Instagram short.
00:58:43.000 You look fantastic in yoga pants.
00:58:45.000 Now, yesterday, as I understand it, you were the one to break this that Greg Bavino was, I don't want to, I don't want to misrepresent because there's quite a bit of confusion.
00:58:56.000 Fired, reassigned, different post.
00:58:59.000 Can you clarify that for us where it stands now?
00:59:02.000 Yeah.
00:59:02.000 So originally, what was going on is he was relieved of duty as commander op at large.
00:59:09.000 So he's no longer the Border Patrol commander.
00:59:14.000 If you notice in the statement that DHS released, you know, trying to rebut my story, they called him chief instead of commander because the story was true.
00:59:26.000 He was actually taken out of the command structure and they started calling him chief again because he went back to his former role as chief of El Centro sector, which is just one section of the U.S.-Mexico border.
00:59:38.000 Right.
00:59:39.000 And President Trump was not originally aware of this because it was a decision made by Rodney Scott, the Customs and Border Protection Commissioner.
00:59:51.000 And then once President Trump found out about it, he was obviously a little bit upset.
00:59:58.000 Okay.
00:59:58.000 So it wasn't coming from him.
01:00:00.000 So is that the reason that the messaging was so incoherent?
01:00:03.000 And does that seem to be a trend in your experience with those on the inside in this administration?
01:00:08.000 Well, I mean, you kind of have to look at it from a standpoint of you have all of these millions of employees of the U.S. federal government that President Trump is managing.
01:00:18.000 So, of course, there are going to be middle managers as well.
01:00:21.000 That's what I'm going to call the CBP commissioner.
01:00:23.000 Sure.
01:00:24.000 That Christy Noam doesn't actually even have.
01:00:28.000 He's technically within DHS, but he doesn't answer to Christy Noam either, which is odd.
01:00:34.000 She can't go and fire him if she wanted to do so.
01:00:39.000 And it seems like Rodney Scott's approach to deportations is very different than what I, you, and tens of millions of other people voted for.
01:00:50.000 We want mass deportations, right?
01:00:54.000 When somebody says worst of the worst, the problem with that is you are now essentially just granting amnesty to illegals that they erroneously call non-criminal, because if you're here illegally, you've committed a crime, you are a criminal.
01:01:14.000 And that was one of the stories that I've unfortunately been hearing this morning is that Border Patrol agents have now been given new orders not to, for example, if they were to run a license plate and it comes back as that person is an illegal that Border Patrol was forced to let into the country under Joe Biden, they are no longer allowed to arrest that person.
01:01:39.000 And is this the first?
01:01:41.000 Is this new information that you're just bringing to light right now that these new orders?
01:01:46.000 Okay.
01:01:46.000 And I don't want you to reveal your sources, but you have someone who you trust on this.
01:01:51.000 You believe this is a matter of official actual approach and policy now.
01:01:55.000 This actually came from two Border Patrol agents, two separate Border Patrol agents on the ground in Minnesota.
01:02:01.000 They're very, very frustrated.
01:02:03.000 Obviously, they feel like one of them actually said that this feels like we just reverted to the Biden days.
01:02:11.000 And I don't want to sound too alarmist on this just yet.
01:02:16.000 I want to see, I've gone to the command structure.
01:02:22.000 I've now inquired about this with DHS.
01:02:25.000 And there seems to be a little bit of confusion, I guess I'll say.
01:02:35.000 And I hate to put it that way, but it is what it is.
01:02:39.000 There are definitely competing people trying to create policy out in Minnesota.
01:02:44.000 Can I ask you a couple of follow-ups just for clarity, really for my sake and people watching right now?
01:02:49.000 Do you know if this approach is exclusive to Minnesota or it's being applied nationwide?
01:02:58.000 So I don't have any reason to believe necessarily that this is being done nationwide.
01:03:03.000 This seems to be just something that's going on in Minnesota at the moment.
01:03:07.000 And it could be a short-term play.
01:03:11.000 There might be something else to this.
01:03:15.000 Obviously, policies can change day by day, right?
01:03:18.000 So I want to stress that this could be very temporary.
01:03:22.000 And this doesn't mean that we have surrendered.
01:03:24.000 Right.
01:03:25.000 Well, I mean, I was saying earlier, and I know there was an empty chair, so you probably didn't hear me.
01:03:30.000 What I was saying is there's still an opportunity here for the Trump administration to appear as if they've pulled back.
01:03:35.000 and then immediately go back in even more aggressively and say, well, we were under, we did this under the guise we thought was good faith, that we would be handed over everyone who was a violent offender currently detained or in custody.
01:03:49.000 So we decided to put a pause and everything else since they said that was their gripe.
01:03:52.000 They didn't do it.
01:03:53.000 And so now we're coming for everybody.
01:03:55.000 Maybe that's the approach.
01:03:56.000 Maybe that's the plan because I would be willing to bet that they will not be handing over all of the violent felons currently.
01:04:04.000 Probably not.
01:04:05.000 Yeah.
01:04:05.000 No.
01:04:05.000 So what they do is, you saw Tim Waltz say yesterday, I believe.
01:04:11.000 He came, all the days run together at this point, man.
01:04:14.000 But Tim Waltz came out and said that, no, we do hand over violent illegals from our state prisons after they serve a sentence, right?
01:04:24.000 Even California does that.
01:04:27.000 That's not something big and bold of them and noble.
01:04:32.000 What they don't do is because they hardly imprison anybody besides Derek Chauvin in Minnesota, there aren't a lot of them that are serving sentences in state prisons.
01:04:43.000 So when it comes from jails and such, all of the county jails, the city jails and such, they still don't honor those ICE detainers.
01:04:54.000 So if an illegal is arrested, even for a violent crime, and then they no cash bail out and they have an ICE detainer put on them, they still don't get turned over.
01:05:07.000 So I'm hoping Trump is working that deal out.
01:05:09.000 I don't know the specifics of that, but I'm hoping that this is the best case scenario that I'm thinking about right now, is that maybe just today they're being a little softer out there so that Holman can get on the ground and hopefully negotiate some sort of deal out there.
01:05:26.000 And so not all hope is lost.
01:05:28.000 I'm not here to blackpill everybody.
01:05:29.000 I'm just telling you what's going on.
01:05:31.000 No, I agree with you.
01:05:33.000 That's why I said like you'll have sick of fans who say like, this is 9D chess.
01:05:36.000 And then you'll have people saying this is all lost.
01:05:37.000 The truth is we don't really know yet.
01:05:39.000 And so my approach today has been to speak as though those in the administration are watching because we know many do and to use our platform and influence to like, look, this is what should be done.
01:05:49.000 I understand it if it's a play to say, okay, hand over all these criminals.
01:05:53.000 And the second they don't, well, then it should be hellfire.
01:05:57.000 That's what it should be.
01:05:58.000 And I believe that we should deport everyone who's here illegally. 1.00
01:06:00.000 I just think an arguing point just be like, well, look, we're not talking about dreamers.
01:06:04.000 We're talking about violent criminals, not just those who crossed, and they won't even give us them. 1.00
01:06:09.000 So now we have to be coming for all of it.
01:06:11.000 Let me ask you something.
01:06:12.000 Oh, you know what?
01:06:13.000 If you can say, we actually have to go to Rumble Premium here.
01:06:16.000 I didn't realize that we went beyond time.
01:06:17.000 And I wanted to ask you a couple other questions about investigative journalism because I used to do that before people recognized me and then tried to kill me.
01:06:24.000 But best place for people to find you, sir?
01:06:26.000 On X at Nick Sortor, N-I-C-K-S-O-R-T-O-R.
01:06:29.000 There you go.
01:06:30.000 And look, guys, go show him some support because he's putting his nuts on the line for you.
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