Louder with Crowder - 🔴Is Trump Confirmed To Be on the Epstein List - What the Hell Is Going On? 2025-07-24 18:08

00:00:16.000 All right.

00:00:17.000 Somebody got spicy.

00:00:18.000 By the way, that's not my junk.

00:00:20.000 Somebody's commenting they missed seeing my junk.

00:00:22.000 I was wearing a cup because Stephen was kicking me all day.

00:00:24.000 Well, that's true.

00:00:26.000 And by the way, you can refer to that, glorious, as anything but junk.

00:00:26.000 You like it.

00:00:33.000 Yeah.

00:00:34.000 Another man's trash is another man's jewels, baby.

00:00:39.000 It's one man's trash is another man's trash.

00:00:41.000 If I said one man's trash, another man's trash is another man's treasure.

00:00:44.000 And we're not going to have it.

00:00:45.000 In fact, when I'm done with it, I'm going to go bury it on an island in the Caribbean.

00:00:48.000 Imagine if you buried it and then it grew more penises.

00:00:52.000 Whoa.

00:00:54.000 That'd be cool.

00:00:55.000 And one of them ended up Bridget McGroe now.

00:00:58.000 Just like fruit, because it wants you to spread its seed.

00:01:00.000 That's what God meant.

00:01:02.000 So, okay.

00:01:05.000 So she says, provide pictures.

00:01:07.000 Now, to be clear, in their filing, they said, we sent many letters.

00:01:11.000 Yes.

00:01:12.000 Many emails.

00:01:13.000 And then when she never responded to the emails, they sent it, I believe, through Courier to make sure that she knew.

00:01:18.000 Singing Telegram?

00:01:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:01:20.000 I heard that you were feeling ill.

00:01:23.000 So they reached out to her many times to correct the record, asked her to she had access to the information that they provided.

00:01:29.000 Again, some of the information, they provided pictures.

00:01:32.000 They provided news clippings.

00:01:33.000 They provided more pictures.

00:01:34.000 They provided what amounted to sworn testimony.

00:01:39.000 They provide evidence of motherhood.

00:01:42.000 Now, that's not to say that all of it, let's say you believe she's a man, that it's enough proof, but it is more than enough proof that her claims, there are no pictures, are unsubstantiated.

00:01:52.000 Then she just, she switched it and said, well, that's actually not a picture of her.

00:01:54.000 It's a picture of her brother.

00:01:56.000 And then it was verified that that was not the case.

00:01:58.000 And this is verified in court.

00:02:00.000 So what evidence this comes down to, again, compare it to the Trump cases as far as defamation, right?

00:02:07.000 Knowingly lying when you have knowledge that it will cause damage, right?

00:02:13.000 That is different.

00:02:14.000 You can say whatever you want.

00:02:16.000 You can't knowingly weaponize words and information, especially if you know the information to be false, to damage someone publicly.

00:02:26.000 You will be held responsible for that.

00:02:28.000 And that is different from making a mistake.

00:02:31.000 So it's going to come down to proof.

00:02:32.000 I want to be very, very clear.

00:02:35.000 What proof, what evidence does Candace have?

00:02:40.000 Her sources include a couple of journalists who had released this publicly a very long time ago.

00:02:44.000 She probably saw some of the videos on YouTube.

00:02:47.000 And Amandine Roy, a spiritual medium who floated the theory that Bridget is really her brother who transitioned into Bridget and isn't a man.

00:02:59.000 Or sorry, isn't a woman.

00:03:01.000 So these are her sources.

00:03:05.000 I know you're thinking, there must be more.

00:03:07.000 She must have medical records, but hasn't presented any.

00:03:12.000 She must have evidence beyond hearsay, like the Nashville story, like Donald Trump calling her, doesn't appear to be any.

00:03:21.000 So the information that she did have at the time when she released this to you, if you watched her series, a multi-part series, where she said, there are no pictures out there of Bridget.

00:03:30.000 It's like she didn't exist.

00:03:32.000 It's like her former husband, her first husband, didn't exist.

00:03:37.000 Okay, at the time, according to this filing, she had childhood pictures of Bridget.

00:03:43.000 She had the evidence of Bridget being a biological mother to three children.

00:03:47.000 They had the newspaper birth announcements as to when she was born.

00:03:50.000 They had documentation of Bridget's first marriage, including, by the way, pictures.

00:03:54.000 They also had photos and videos of Bridget's brother in public with Bridget.

00:03:59.000 Jeez.

00:03:59.000 Who Candace Owens claimed Bridget to be together in the same room?

00:04:04.000 Pre-split screen technology.

00:04:06.000 Chacle-et-blue.

00:04:12.000 And here's the thing.

00:04:13.000 I don't know if it's the medium.

00:04:14.000 You guys can confirm her sources because it's, again, it's a 200-page filing.

00:04:19.000 Basically, as I understand it, there are two journalists, more or less, and one spiritual medium.

00:04:23.000 There might be one journalist and one spiritual medium.

00:04:25.000 I think it's one-in-one, and they're combined in the two people.

00:04:28.000 I don't believe that's the case.

00:04:29.000 I believe that it's separate.

00:04:30.000 The journalists who had these sort of, what was it called?

00:04:34.000 Drois et affaire, something like, I'm trying to remember.

00:04:36.000 It was a French publication.

00:04:39.000 I don't know if it's online or not.

00:04:40.000 But her references are people who haven't provided any other references, to be clear.

00:04:45.000 And some of them were already found liable for defamation.

00:04:50.000 Now, to be clear, they appealed it, and the appeal was granted, but not on the grounds that it wasn't defamation.

00:04:56.000 it was another technicality.

00:04:57.000 So in this, Yes, I believe right now.

00:05:01.000 So it's still working its way through.

00:05:02.000 It's still working its way through.

00:05:03.000 But the first ruling that you had is, yeah, this is defamation.

00:05:06.000 So in other words, her references have already at one point been found responsible for committing acts of defamation.

00:05:14.000 And those are her references while she had these mountains of evidence.

00:05:20.000 Is Bridget Macrone a dude or is she just, and by the way, I do mean this, like, I don't like Macrone.

00:05:26.000 I don't like his policies.

00:05:26.000 I don't like his politics.

00:05:28.000 And I probably wouldn't like Bridget at all.

00:05:29.000 And by the way, she was a teacher and it was really creepy and he was young and I think that it's probably an inappropriate relationship, of course.

00:05:35.000 But if this woman is not a man and just a very unfortunate looking broad, you know, don't you guys, like, don't you feel a little bad for her?

00:05:50.000 But who knows these days?

00:05:51.000 With her appearance on Ellen, you know, that's the most evidence I've seen.

00:05:55.000 Didn't help.

00:05:56.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

00:05:58.000 Oh, wow, wow.

00:05:59.000 Oh, wow.

00:06:11.000 She must have picked one up from where you planted.

00:06:13.000 Yeah.

00:06:15.000 Yeah.

00:06:16.000 She's a seasonal worker.

00:06:18.000 And so, yeah, that's what it's going to come down to.

00:06:20.000 And I will tell you this.

00:06:23.000 Look, with Candace and the Nashville thing, I was, at first, I was going, she doesn't have anything.

00:06:28.000 I'm going, I hope she has some information.

00:06:29.000 In other words, I'm hoping that our source and all of our legwork has led to other people being able to open up.

00:06:35.000 And instead, I will say in the Nashville case, it was either completely incorrect or fraudulent.

00:06:40.000 It is one of those two because her information was verifiably false.

00:06:43.000 And I tend to believe fraudulent because she never followed up.

00:06:46.000 She said, tune in, click, click, click, give me clicks, and then had nothing else to provide.

00:06:50.000 But you've seen this many times.

00:06:52.000 There's no evidence, no proof.

00:06:55.000 And when you combine with no evidence, no proof, and a gut feeling based on what a spiritual medium told you and what a sort of journalist, I guess, told you who has already been found in one capacity or another to be liable for defamation, contrasted with photographic and historical and sworn testimony evidence.

00:07:19.000 I don't really think it's going to be that hard to prove that she knowingly was dishonest.

00:07:25.000 It's going to come down to the damages, the jurisdiction.

00:07:30.000 I really think that's the only thing that remains to be seen.

00:07:35.000 I think we should expect better.

00:07:36.000 I think we should expect better from our people.

00:07:41.000 And I know working in this industry, I tell you that most people don't start off with, hey, is this correct?

00:07:44.000 It's sure, you need to be correct.

00:07:46.000 You need to provide information.

00:07:47.000 You need to provide insight, add value for you watching, and then go and then go, okay, how do we do this so that it's at least palatable, entertaining, so that people want to watch it?

00:07:55.000 But you do have to start with, is this true?

00:07:58.000 Is it accurate?

00:08:00.000 And that's why we make all the references available.

00:08:03.000 And that's why we don't have a business that operates on investigative journalism because the moment you do that, you have to look for the next big scoop.

00:08:09.000 And then you start trying to find it in places that it doesn't exist.

00:08:12.000 We can do it when we think there's something there.

00:08:15.000 And that's by design.

00:08:17.000 At best, I'm disappointed with the way Candace is handling this if she's a journalist or a broadcaster.

00:08:25.000 At worst, I'm disgusted with someone potentially knowingly lying to you to try and get your clicks, your money, and support with no mindfulness as to your reputation, your credibility.

00:08:40.000 If you go out and say, I know for a fact that Bridget McCrone is a man, and then it's so verifiably proven false that your friends and your circle never trust you again, your credibility matters too.

00:08:52.000 I try and think sitting right there, wherever you are, in your truck, in your living room, in your dorm, I don't want to hang you out to dry.

00:09:01.000 She did that to you.

00:09:02.000 That's my opinion.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 And look, this is just another in a long series of these kinds of questionable events.

00:09:09.000 Like we talked about, you can make a mistake.

00:09:11.000 You can come back and go, hey, admonish me.

00:09:12.000 I've been admonished a million times.

00:09:13.000 I understand.

00:09:14.000 Right.

00:09:14.000 Or you can come back and issue a correction or you can say, hey, we got that.

00:09:17.000 We got that.

00:09:18.000 Oh, come on.

00:09:20.000 You can say, we got that wrong.

00:09:21.000 But there's no two cops are going to be fired.

00:09:23.000 And Steven Crowder maybe or somebody connected with him paid for this.

00:09:27.000 There's, and tune into my show later on so that you can see what's really going on.

00:09:31.000 There was nothing that was really going on.

00:09:33.000 Two cops weren't fired.

00:09:35.000 Like that's what she was claiming, that people were going to lose their job.

00:09:37.000 And then she goes, you can take from that what you will on Steven putting this out there.

00:09:40.000 Like, obviously, she's saying you were reckless and you just got people fired, Stephen.

00:09:44.000 That's exactly what she was saying right there.

00:09:45.000 Also, that influencers were paid to do stories about her.

00:09:48.000 I think the only thing that was ever, the only thing that ever even came of that was some random email from a Jewish group, I guess, to Protestant churches or churches in America to preach sermons on some of these things that might happen from Candace's show.

00:10:00.000 There's probably some truth to that.

00:10:01.000 That then came out and literally said, no, we never did that.

00:10:04.000 There's no evidence of it is what I'm saying.

00:10:06.000 She didn't say these Jewish groups went to churches to get them to preach sermons about me.

00:10:06.000 There's no evidence.

00:10:11.000 She said influencers are paid to do hit pieces.

00:10:14.000 Right.

00:10:14.000 That's a different thing.

00:10:15.000 There's probably some truth to the fact that sermons, right, they all talk about like, yeah, there's a growing wave of anti-Semitism.

00:10:21.000 Are you concerned about it?

00:10:22.000 Are you?

00:10:22.000 Yeah, you are.

00:10:22.000 Do we all agree that maybe we need to do that?

00:10:24.000 That kind of stuff happens.

00:10:25.000 But this group came out and said, no, we didn't actually do any of that.

00:10:27.000 Of course, look, it could turn out that that's true, but that's not what she claimed.

00:10:30.000 And it's not this widespread problem.

00:10:32.000 And so you do have to start at some point going, like, why are you making these claims that you can't really verify?

00:10:38.000 Trump called me and told me, listen to this, listen to this, that France is the key to peace between Ukraine and Russia?

00:10:44.000 France is not the key to peace to anybody right now.

00:10:47.000 And even if that was the case, I don't think France would go, you know, I could make a phone call right now and I could end the human suffering that's going on by the tens of thousands every single week being either killed or maimed in this war.

00:10:47.000 Thank you very much.

00:10:58.000 But that Candace Owens called my wife a man.

00:11:02.000 So no, I'm not going to do it.

00:11:04.000 Right.

00:11:05.000 Like, do you think that's really what's happening right now, that you're that self-important?

00:11:08.000 And also you make a claim that nobody's going to bother to verify because Trump's not going to come out and say anything about it.

00:11:13.000 He doesn't care.

00:11:14.000 And you can't possibly prove that it happened.

00:11:16.000 What I do know, though, is that you said in the middle of that, you had the foresight to go, ah, I need to say something funny because I'm going to write a book later about this.

00:11:24.000 Very telling, Candace.

00:11:25.000 Right.

00:11:26.000 Interesting stuff.

00:11:27.000 I'm just saying it fits away.

00:11:28.000 And then tell everyone you stand nothing to gain by being brave and standing up for the truth.

00:11:32.000 Buy my book.

00:11:32.000 Nothing.

00:11:33.000 Hey, why would I release a free chapter with salacious rumors of rape if I stand nothing to gain?

00:11:39.000 By the way, buy my book if you want to read the rest of it.

00:11:43.000 I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.

00:11:45.000 It's silly.

00:11:47.000 By the way, when I didn't write a children's book, I read it on air.

00:11:50.000 I said, ah, if you want to buy it to your children, I'll tell you this.

00:11:55.000 Stand to gain.

00:11:56.000 I'm going to make from that book.

00:11:57.000 I'm going to put, you know, it's going to be invested for my kids.

00:11:59.000 And it's like, hey, but there you go.

00:12:00.000 No, no.

00:12:01.000 It's just the whole thing is I'm just doing this out of bravery.

00:12:04.000 I stand nothing to gain.

00:12:05.000 Well, let's just ignore clicks and traffic, which amounts to dollars.

00:12:11.000 Okay, are you selling a book?

00:12:12.000 Are you selling any wares?

00:12:14.000 I will tell you this.

00:12:15.000 When I tell you, hey, look, we are actually being sensed.

00:12:19.000 We are actively being suppressed.

00:12:20.000 We have been demonetized.

00:12:21.000 Diageo has told Rumble that they won't run any ads there if they continue to host us.

00:12:26.000 I'll tell you what I stand again.

00:12:28.000 Being able to continue doing this show and employing everyone here that you watch, it requires you to join.

00:12:37.000 Hopefully, and you guys can't, I'm very straightforward about it.

00:12:40.000 We are actually funded by you and a very small percentage comparatively of a single sponsor a day.

00:12:46.000 Sometimes no sponsors.

00:12:47.000 Don't forget the Jew money and the caliphate money.

00:12:49.000 You have to get both sides.

00:12:50.000 But you'll never hear me say, I stand nothing to gain by mug club slash rumble premium.

00:12:55.000 Well, of course I do.

00:12:56.000 It's what keeps us here gainfully employed.

00:12:58.000 I'm not making 15 million.

00:12:59.000 I'm not making anywhere Near, not making a tenth of that.

00:13:02.000 Stephen Colbert is making none of it, not even close.

00:13:05.000 But we get to live comfortable lives and work really hard to present you with this information.

00:13:10.000 Of course, we stand something to gain.

00:13:12.000 And if it's mutually beneficial, great.

00:13:14.000 When people say, I stand nothing to gain, aren't you married to a lord?

00:13:19.000 Like, let's just be honest about this.

00:13:22.000 Does she call him my lord?

00:13:23.000 My lord.

00:13:24.000 So, hey, let me give a couple of clarifying points, and then I have a bit of sad news.

00:13:28.000 Not terribly sad, but sad enough.

00:13:30.000 I already know Ozzy died.

00:13:31.000 No, no, no.

00:13:32.000 Look, it's not that.

00:13:33.000 Not that, not that, not that, not that.

00:13:35.000 I said, let me give an update.

00:13:36.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:13:38.000 Do the update first.

00:13:38.000 You want to do this?

00:13:40.000 So the lawsuit is against the two podcasters.

00:13:40.000 All right.

00:13:43.000 That was the only lawsuit.

00:13:44.000 The medium is included with those is what they're saying.

00:13:46.000 So the other part of it that we want to make sure people understand where this story came from, what is Fates at Documents.

00:13:52.000 It's a paper that sort of re-earthed the story.

00:13:54.000 The editor is Xavier.

00:13:56.000 He wrote a book, Becoming Bridget, and has interviewed with Candace, but he's never been sued specifically, not that person who wrote that book.

00:14:02.000 So just to clarify kind of where this thing comes from and how it gets out there.

00:14:07.000 So we'll see where all this goes.

00:14:08.000 Listen, if I'm wrong, then we'll do the admonishment.

00:14:12.000 Here's another thing.

00:14:13.000 Here's the thing.

00:14:14.000 If it's your wife, if it's your husband, whatever it is, the claims being made, they go, and someone publicly says, and by the way, on a campaign says there's no proof of his birth and there are no childhood pictures.

00:14:27.000 And then you go, birth certificate, birth announcement, many, many pictures of childhood, including weddings.

00:14:33.000 And with her children, and with the brother you claim this person to be.

00:14:36.000 You provided it, and that person knowingly omitted and continued to lie about it.

00:14:41.000 Now, knowingly omitting it is different.

00:14:43.000 You don't have to include all information that you've been given.

00:14:45.000 I understand that.

00:14:46.000 Every single piece that you read or video that you watch includes edits.

00:14:49.000 If there's an in and an out point, there are edits.

00:14:52.000 But if you omit it and knowingly continue to say there are no childhood photographs, there is no evidence of this person's birth when you have been sent that.

00:15:02.000 I'm going to tell you legally this doesn't end well for Candace no matter what she does as far as grandstanding.

00:15:09.000 It ends poorly.

00:15:10.000 It ends poorly.

00:15:12.000 And just like you personalize it when you're betrayed by people you voted for, I would say I've felt that way in the past when I've had people who I've supported who were orders or they were broadcasters and sometimes even comedians who then sort of stabbed me in the, I guess I should say, ideological back.

00:15:32.000 Just know that you've been hung out.

00:15:33.000 If you actually believed before today that there was no evidence of the birth, you were lied to.

00:15:37.000 If you actually believe there were no childhood pictures, you were lied to.

00:15:40.000 If you actually believe that there was no evidence that Bridget McCrone was seen photographed with the brother who people have claimed her to be, you were lied to.

00:15:49.000 You still may think she's a man.

00:15:51.000 I honestly don't know.

00:15:52.000 I don't really give a shit.

00:15:53.000 But I do care about, you know, the truth.

00:15:57.000 Now, what do I stand to gain by covering this story?

00:15:59.000 Honestly, in this case, very little because it's going to split people.

00:16:02.000 People go, oh, I like it.

00:16:03.000 Well, fine.

00:16:04.000 She's wrong on this.

00:16:04.000 You can like it.

00:16:06.000 Sometimes I'm wrong.

00:16:08.000 Sometimes she's wrong.

00:16:08.000 You know, like Nashville, she was wrong.

00:16:10.000 She was completely wrong.

00:16:11.000 On this, it seems like she was completely wrong.

00:16:12.000 Maybe she didn't read her emails and maybe she didn't open the letter that was sent to her with all these photographs.

00:16:16.000 I don't know.

00:16:18.000 But at a certain point, you do have to be responsible if you're holding yourself out there as a beacon of truth.

00:16:22.000 The update, I think I know.

00:16:24.000 Yes, Hulk Hogan is dead at 71.

00:16:26.000 Oh, brother.

00:16:27.000 Unfortunately, seeing him govern it right now, showing some footage.

00:16:31.000 And that guy had a hard last few years with Gawker and the case and everything.

00:16:35.000 And I know a lot of people didn't like him for other reasons, but he still was an American icon.

00:16:41.000 And seems like he, you know, I hope that he's up there at the Pearly Gates saying, let me tell you something, brother.

00:16:48.000 Do you think his glorified body is better than when he was at his peak in wrestling?

00:16:51.000 I don't know.

00:16:52.000 I hope he gained back his hearing so he's not up there with St. Peter going, what was that?

00:16:59.000 Is he the one that had the theme song?

00:17:01.000 I am a real American.

00:17:04.000 Real American.

00:17:06.000 I am the rights of every man.

00:17:06.000 Ready.

00:17:10.000 Every man.

00:17:11.000 I like it.

00:17:11.000 Yeah.

00:17:12.000 Well, not every just man, I meant in general.

00:17:14.000 What was the name of that?

00:17:15.000 It was Thunder in Paradise, right?

00:17:17.000 Thunder in Paradise.

00:17:18.000 was one.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, I remember.

00:17:19.000 None of his movies were necessarily great.

00:17:23.000 It was.

00:17:25.000 He had that.

00:17:26.000 He had, was it something Nanny?

00:17:28.000 Wasn't there always been Nanny?

00:17:29.000 I think Mr. Nanny?

00:17:30.000 None of his movies were any good at all.

00:17:31.000 If he made an appearance or something, then it was cool, but he was the same character and do that really quickly and then be done.

00:17:36.000 But yeah, otherwise it just sucked.

00:17:37.000 Well, he was definitely, and you get some real wrestling fans who don't like it, but he brought in the theatrics.

00:17:42.000 He wasn't a great technical wrestler.

00:17:44.000 He was the one who really connected with the audience.

00:17:46.000 And okay, I'm going to be the good guy.

00:17:48.000 And that being said, he did actually pick up Andre the Giant over his head and throw him.

00:17:54.000 If we can bring up that story.

00:17:55.000 The story is really interesting.

00:17:56.000 If you saw the documentary on that, kind of the passing of the torch between he's like, this guy's my hero, essentially, or some degree, he had a lot of respect.

00:18:03.000 And apparently Andre called for it middle of the match and he wasn't wasn't not middle of the match, but right before it he like called for it like to do it.

00:18:10.000 And I was like, if I was, if I was Hulk Holder, I'd be like, holy crap, I hope I can do this.

00:18:10.000 And I don't think it was planned.

00:18:14.000 Well, no, I think he had already done it in small shows because they'll do shows that aren't televised, that aren't pay-per-views.

00:18:19.000 But I don't, as I remember, they weren't supposed to do it on that televised broadcast.

00:18:25.000 And so even got to be.

00:18:26.000 Andre called for it.

00:18:26.000 It's something you got to warm up for.

00:18:27.000 Yeah, I was about to say.

00:18:29.000 That was a massive, massive man.

00:18:30.000 And by the way, the heaviest drinker ever.

00:18:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:34.000 Ever.

00:18:34.000 Who's ever walked the face of the earth?

00:18:36.000 Andre the Giant because he was in constant, constant pain.

00:18:39.000 And used to throw his beer together.

00:18:39.000 Yeah.

00:18:40.000 Maybe Wade Boggs.

00:18:41.000 What was that?

00:18:42.000 No.

00:18:42.000 Nobody can compare to Andre the Giant.

00:18:44.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:18:45.000 Andre the Giant.

00:18:48.000 No, no.

00:18:49.000 Andre the Giant said a record.

00:18:50.000 He drank 83 in an hour.

00:18:50.000 83.

00:18:53.000 Wade Boggs.

00:18:54.000 Whoa.

00:18:54.000 No, he drank 83.

00:18:55.000 No, I think Andre the Giant.

00:18:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:56.000 No, no, hold on a second, guys.

00:18:57.000 Everyone, stop.

00:18:58.000 I think Andre the Giant drank like 100 something in an hour.

00:19:00.000 There's a record that he set with beer, and they said that he would regularly drink like 40, 50 on a bus ride and toss his cans at the back of Hulk's head.

00:19:09.000 And also have two bottles of wine after.

00:19:12.000 Holy shit.

00:19:13.000 They said that he had to be able to get it.

00:19:14.000 Is that why he talked like that?

00:19:15.000 I thought it was just his condition.

00:19:16.000 No, it was his condition.

00:19:17.000 And part of it was he was self-medicating because the guy was in constant pain.

00:19:21.000 And also, he didn't get drunk nearly as quickly as no, no, it required a lot.

00:19:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:26.000 A lot, a lot.

00:19:28.000 The Wade Boggs thing?

00:19:28.000 So give me, hold on.

00:19:30.000 You don't know about Wade Boggs?

00:19:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:19:31.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:19:31.000 Yeah, on a flight.

00:19:32.000 An eight-hour flight, he drank 82 beers.

00:19:36.000 No way.

00:19:37.000 So, okay, let's see.

00:19:38.000 Legendia Urban Legend.

00:19:39.000 Okay, let's have the picture first of him lifting under the giant, right?

00:19:42.000 Yeah, I've got that video real quick.

00:19:43.000 Oh, we've got the video.

00:19:45.000 Awesome.

00:19:46.000 Okay.

00:19:47.000 We're seeing what this guy is really made of.

00:19:49.000 What he is.

00:19:51.000 What made his picture?

00:19:52.000 He looked old then.

00:19:53.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:54.000 Look at this.

00:19:56.000 Wow.

00:19:59.000 I think there's one where he lifted him over his head, though, didn't he?

00:20:02.000 I don't know about that.

00:20:03.000 Press him?

00:20:04.000 Maybe not.

00:20:06.000 I'm picturing him.

00:20:06.000 I thought there was.

00:20:07.000 He's 400 pounds, right?

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:09.000 Andre 390, something like that?

00:20:11.000 No, no, no.

00:20:12.000 He was over 500.

00:20:13.000 They listed him like well over 500, but he was over four.

00:20:16.000 From what?

00:20:17.000 Especially as he got older.

00:20:18.000 He was definitely over four.

00:20:19.000 What else did you have for us, Noodles?

00:20:21.000 So let's see.

00:20:22.000 Andre the Giant, one of the most famous stories involves Andre consuming 119 beers in a single sitting.

00:20:28.000 Other accounts from fellow wrestlers even suggest he drank 156 beers in one night.

00:20:33.000 Those feats, even exaggerated, are far more extreme than the stories about Boggs, which was 70 in a cross-country trip.

00:20:40.000 Or it says, or 107 beers on a flight.

00:20:43.000 There's no way.

00:20:44.000 There's just no way for like a guy like Wade Boggs.

00:20:47.000 Come on, there's just no Andre the Giant.

00:20:49.000 Andre, different.

00:20:50.000 Wade the Foggs didn't have a condition.

00:20:52.000 I believe it because they said that he would drink several cases of beer before going out for a match.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:59.000 No, for Andre, again, I'm talking about Wade Boggs.

00:21:01.000 That makes no sense to me at all.

00:21:03.000 Like, I mean, what are they like?

00:21:03.000 Yeah.

00:21:04.000 Water, 0.01% alcohol?

00:21:07.000 That's American beer, yeah.

00:21:08.000 I mean, yeah, they're like lagers or light beers or whatever.

00:21:11.000 Okay, so 3% beers just with the mass and the bubbles.

00:21:14.000 Like after I drink two, I feel full.

00:21:16.000 Well, just drunk, full.

00:21:18.000 There might be a picture of Andre the Giant's hand with a beer can from what I believe.

00:21:21.000 And it's like, so you're like, oh, okay, that makes toys.

00:21:24.000 It looks like a mid.

00:21:25.000 Yeah, I think it might actually be out there.

00:21:27.000 I feel like I've seen it.

00:21:28.000 I mean, there's someone who has like a bottle of wine and it looks like a 12-ounce beer bottle.

00:21:32.000 The guy had massive, massive mitts.

00:21:34.000 Now, he's nothing compared to like the giant strongmen of today who also know how to lift properly and stuff.

00:21:38.000 He just was a giant guy who was a farmer.

00:21:41.000 He was a circus freak, essentially.

00:21:42.000 Oh, my gosh, that's hilarious.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:21:44.000 That's real.

00:21:44.000 Yeah, so you could easily see, like, in other words, 10 of those is nothing.

00:21:48.000 That's quite terrifying, actually.

00:21:51.000 If he offered me a handshake, I would not.

00:21:53.000 He may not.

00:21:54.000 I mean, like, respectfully, respectfully, I can't.

00:21:56.000 He was also a grumpy dude, but loved children, they say.

00:21:58.000 Just adored, like, he was the.

00:22:00.000 Eating them?

00:22:01.000 Wait.

00:22:02.000 No, they say that he adored kids.

00:22:04.000 He's on the Epstein list.

00:22:05.000 That's why they won't release it.

00:22:07.000 That'd be a scary, scary.

00:22:09.000 Couldn't fit on the plane.

00:22:10.000 Oh, you'd have to plan to meet the flight envelope.

00:22:13.000 What were you going to say, New York?

00:22:14.000 So they say the AI things is probably from forums, so not to exactly be, you know, go by that.

00:22:20.000 But they say that he confirmed to Letterman that he drank 117 beers in one sitting.

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:27.000 So, I mean, that's him confirming it.

00:22:30.000 And again, there's so many other wrestlers saying I've never seen anyone drink like him ever, ever in my life.

00:22:37.000 When you have many people saying like, yeah, I saw him drink probably at least 40, 60 beers sitting next to him.

00:22:41.000 And by the way, none of this is to glorify to say that you should.

00:22:43.000 No.

00:22:44.000 I'm just saying that.

00:22:45.000 It's a bad idea.

00:22:46.000 It was a rough life back then.

00:22:47.000 He couldn't fit on the planes.

00:22:48.000 He couldn't fit into the plane.

00:22:49.000 He used to have to wear a diaper because he couldn't fit in the plane bathrooms in transit.

00:22:53.000 Oh, no, there's just going to be transatlantic flights.

00:22:55.000 He couldn't get in.

00:22:56.000 You're just going to be able to get it.

00:22:56.000 So imagine that.

00:22:57.000 Did he buy two seats?

00:22:58.000 Or did he just screw the person next to you?

00:23:00.000 No, I think he would buy two seats and he'd have to wear like a diaper.

00:23:04.000 I think they said something like one of those things like racers use this like a tube, kind of a condom that goes into a pouch.

00:23:09.000 It's almost like a bag.

00:23:11.000 Blossoming bag almost.

00:23:12.000 Yeah.

00:23:13.000 And he was constant pain, constant pain.

00:23:15.000 And Vince McMahon requested that he come back out.

00:23:18.000 I think for the Hulk thing, he had retired, didn't want to do it because he just could barely move anymore.

00:23:22.000 Yeah.

00:23:23.000 That's sad.

00:23:24.000 And Hulk, you know, Hulk did a lot.

00:23:25.000 He was an American icon.

00:23:27.000 Everyone makes mistakes.

00:23:31.000 Good for you.

00:23:32.000 And say your prayers.

00:23:33.000 Yeah, I do that too.

00:23:34.000 Yeah.

00:23:35.000 Told kids to say their prayers, eat their vegetables, don't do drugs.

00:23:38.000 Yeah, I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to Hulk when I was a kid.

00:23:40.000 Yeah, you didn't?

00:23:41.000 No, I just did drugs, didn't eat my vegetables.

00:23:43.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:23:43.000 Played with flashing cups.

00:23:45.000 Well, Hogan didn't.

00:23:46.000 I don't think he followed his own advice.

00:23:48.000 No, he was injecting a lot of stuff.

00:23:52.000 Eat your vegetables, say your prayers, and juice all day, every day.

00:23:56.000 I think later on, though, he was pretty.

00:23:57.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:58.000 They have Brian Stelter commenting on this wife.

00:24:01.000 I just loved his cacks.

00:24:02.000 Let's see what he says.

00:24:03.000 Bring it up, bring it up.

00:24:04.000 He looks erect.

00:24:05.000 He had a great leotard collection.

00:24:08.000 When you think about the WWE, there's that word, entertainment.

00:24:11.000 And Hulk Hogan, more than any other wrestler in the 80s and 90s, knew how to put on a show.

00:24:17.000 He knew how to entertain.

00:24:18.000 And he really helped build the WWE into the worldwide franchise that it is today.

00:24:24.000 It has become such a huge business.

00:24:27.000 And that was partly on Hulk Hogan's literal back.

00:24:30.000 When I think about Hogan's legacy, I also think about his legal legacy.

00:24:34.000 You were talking before the break about Hogan's politics.

00:24:37.000 We know, of course, how President Trump has been very litigious lately.

00:24:41.000 Well, who was it that kind of usher in this era of celebrity lawsuits against media outlets?

00:24:46.000 I would say Hulk Hogan's person that gets that billing.

00:24:50.000 Hulk Hogan was, he decided to sue a blog called Gawker about 10 years ago at this point because Gawker published a sex tape that he was in.

00:25:01.000 This lawsuit worked its way through the courts for years.

00:25:04.000 It eventually bankrupted Gawker.

00:25:06.000 It was a very big trial in Florida at the time.

00:25:09.000 It bankrupted the blog, kicked it out of business.

00:25:12.000 And what we later learned was that the entire lawsuit was bankrolled by billionaire tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel.

00:25:18.000 He was angry at another Gawker-affiliated blog for outing him a number of years earlier.

00:25:23.000 So Hulk Hogan's identity.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, Gawker also smeared me.

00:25:25.000 I didn't have the firepower that Hulk Hogan did.

00:25:27.000 They would do that all the time, and there were no consequences.

00:25:30.000 Imagine, look, this is the thing.

00:25:33.000 Well, let's listen to him a little bit.

00:25:35.000 That famous ball.

00:25:36.000 He's getting the sights, now he's dying.

00:25:36.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 He ain't strange.

00:25:40.000 Return of the shots.

00:25:41.000 Oh, my God.

00:25:42.000 Return up the socks.

00:25:44.000 Okay, I'm not going to lie.

00:25:45.000 I was in a bad mood because Hulk Hogan died, and now I feel a little better.

00:25:48.000 Had to hit it.

00:25:49.000 And remember, he also had faked a presidential run appearing on the Tonight Show in a bit of a gag and pretending he was going for president.

00:25:57.000 He didn't do it then.

00:25:58.000 But Trump later said in 2024, He'd give him a position as a president's counsel on physical.

00:26:05.000 This is why legacy media hates shows like this and Joe Rogan.

00:26:09.000 There couldn't be anyone less appropriate to comment on Hulk Hogan than Brian Stelter and this asshole.

00:26:16.000 They don't seem like anyone who would have an interest or should be discussing professional wrestling or athletics or masculine activities with you.

00:26:24.000 That's the best they could find.

00:26:25.000 They got cliff notes during a commercial break.

00:26:28.000 Well, and basically what they were doing is saying like, this guy ushered in this bad wave of stuff that bankrupted these poor people over there, and now Trump's doing the same.

00:26:36.000 It's like, wait a minute, the guy just died, and that's what you're bringing up?

00:26:38.000 Right.

00:26:39.000 You're making, by the way, he had a legitimate case against these guys.

00:26:42.000 Fine, you may not like it.

00:26:43.000 They stole a sex tape.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, but you may also not like that it was funded by somebody.

00:26:46.000 None of that matters if he won in court, by the way.

00:26:49.000 It's a big deal.

00:26:50.000 And then to say it's like, well, see, and he started this kind of litigious process.

00:26:54.000 And by the way, all you pious, disingenuous pricks.

00:26:59.000 I'm not saying that we should condone degeneracy and we shouldn't have an ideal for our society.

00:27:04.000 Of course we should.

00:27:05.000 But I also don't think it's that perverse or twisted for a consenting couple.

00:27:12.000 I don't remember if it was a couple, if they were a couple, I don't remember if it was one I stand.

00:27:15.000 I don't remember if it was a prostitute, but consenting adults to have pictures or videos of them having sex.

00:27:22.000 It's not that crazy uncommon, especially if it's a married couple.

00:27:26.000 It's not perverse.

00:27:27.000 Maybe they want it for their private collection so they can watch it and have a romantic evening in.

00:27:32.000 Everyone's like, I can't believe it.

00:27:34.000 Like, are we supposed to act now like sex isn't a thing that everybody likes?

00:27:34.000 What?

00:27:38.000 Also, he's an athlete.

00:27:39.000 What if he was doing it like, you know, like Tony Gwynn was doing it?

00:27:41.000 Yes, you know.

00:27:42.000 He goes, oh, I got to, okay.

00:27:42.000 Maybe he was watching it.

00:27:44.000 See my hips?

00:27:44.000 All right.

00:27:46.000 I got to pull my hips over a little bit.

00:27:47.000 I'm not being very effective with my thrusting.

00:27:49.000 That's right.

00:27:50.000 I'm losing leverage because you see my right foot right here.

00:27:50.000 That's right.

00:27:53.000 It needs to be about three or four inches closer in and then back.

00:27:55.000 You got to get a better launch angle.

00:27:57.000 My launch angle's all off.

00:27:58.000 But if he's an athlete, if he's a real athlete, he shouldn't be doing that anyway because women weaken likes.

00:28:06.000 All right.

00:28:06.000 That's what I mean.

00:28:07.000 Well, obviously prayers with the family.

00:28:11.000 I'm sure those affect people who love them, who are close to them.

00:28:14.000 And this is one thing, too, I will say, this is the problem with, it's all a feminism thing, this idea that a man is imperfect, so it erases his accomplishments.

00:28:23.000 Like, we all know that Lauren Southern was very likely not raped by Andrew Tate, right?

00:28:27.000 To start.

00:28:28.000 But she talks about Tommy Robinson, who's been on this show and how they did drugs together and he was having an affair.

00:28:33.000 I don't know if she slept with him or not.

00:28:37.000 We don't know that that's true.

00:28:39.000 We do know that Lauren Southern did those things because she admitted to them.

00:28:43.000 Let's assume for a second that Tommy Robinson did.

00:28:46.000 Let's assume so.

00:28:47.000 He's also actually accomplished something.

00:28:50.000 Agree with him or not.

00:28:52.000 Lauren Southern really hasn't.

00:28:54.000 And so what they try and do is go, look, Tommy Robinson, who's drawn attention to Muslim raping gangs, who's done time in prison to stand up for his beliefs.

00:29:03.000 Look, he did something bad.

00:29:05.000 Therefore, all of his accomplishments are gone.

00:29:08.000 Meanwhile, you live like a monster, cheating on your husband, doing all the things that you accuse other people of doing, tarnishing his reputation.

00:29:15.000 And you want to perpetually be the victim.

00:29:18.000 And that's what happens.

00:29:19.000 Oh, Churchill, I'm sure, wasn't a great husband.

00:29:22.000 Doesn't change the fact that he did some great things.

00:29:25.000 You can say the same thing about Michael Jordan.

00:29:27.000 Was he still the greatest basketball player who ever lived?

00:29:29.000 So we got to get out of this habit of erasing a man's accomplishments because of mistakes.

00:29:36.000 And the big difference, funny enough, it was the first tweet that I just put out myself because I just try and avoid it.

00:29:41.000 And usually the tweets are taken from this show.

00:29:43.000 I'm like, yeah, if I say it, it can be transcribed.

00:29:45.000 Is when you look at the big difference between men's advocates right now, and I don't mean red pill.

00:29:49.000 I mean, we've had Andrew Wilson on the show.

00:29:50.000 He's not a red pill guy.

00:29:51.000 He's an Orthodox Christian who advocates for traditional marriage and monogamy and the raising of children.

00:29:56.000 Okay.

00:29:56.000 Now, you may not like him.

00:29:58.000 You may not agree with him.

00:29:59.000 Whatever.

00:30:00.000 But what he does and what you see from these men's advocates out there is they say, hey, look, women, when they talk to women, they go, this is what men want and what men expect of you.

00:30:11.000 This is what men want in a woman.

00:30:13.000 So if you want to get the kind of man that you think you should marry, do these things or be single.

00:30:22.000 Feminists out there tell men how to be men.

00:30:28.000 If you follow the advice of men's advocates, if you're a woman, if you just follow the advice of, oh, wait, this is what men want?

00:30:32.000 Okay, that's probably what I should, you'll probably find the guy that you want.

00:30:37.000 If you follow women's advice, you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life.

00:30:42.000 Men don't tell women how to be.

00:30:42.000 That's the big difference.

00:30:45.000 It's, well, this is how we expect you to be with us.

00:30:47.000 Women are constantly trying to define what a man is.

00:30:50.000 It's, oh, he's not a man.

00:30:52.000 He cheated on his wife.

00:30:53.000 Churchill, well, I guess what?

00:30:54.000 He's still a man, whether you like it or not.

00:30:55.000 Oh, Hulkov.

00:30:57.000 That was a big thing.

00:30:57.000 Women were like, this is deplorable.

00:30:59.000 I remember I can't sex tape, which is degrading to women.

00:31:01.000 Really, is it?

00:31:02.000 Did he really do anything wrong to the person who worked for the liberal rag site Gawker that peddled in smear campaigns, taking without permission, without consent, a sex tape and profiting off of it by disseminating it to the public?

00:31:18.000 Are they the piece of shit?

00:31:20.000 You don't allow the other gender to define what it is that you should be, because then they just redefine gender and now there's countless genders.

00:31:26.000 So Hulk Hogan, I'm sure a lot of people have bad things to say about him, doesn't erase what he did.

00:31:31.000 It doesn't erase who he was and it doesn't erase the impact that he had.

00:31:36.000 And that goes for George Washington.

00:31:37.000 It goes for Abraham Lincoln.

00:31:39.000 It goes for Churchill.

00:31:40.000 It goes for Donald Trump.

00:31:42.000 It goes for everybody.

00:31:44.000 Okay?

00:31:45.000 Do we have anything else we want to just get some chats?

00:31:46.000 Chat Thursday.

00:31:46.000 All right.

00:31:47.000 We don't have a lot of time.

00:31:48.000 Shit.

00:31:48.000 Oh, it's Chat Thursday.

00:31:49.000 Yeah.

00:31:49.000 Go.

00:31:50.000 Chat.

00:31:55.000 I'm sorry.

00:31:55.000 I'm still getting into the swing of things getting back and I forgot it was Thursday.

00:31:58.000 Well, we'll take it to the end.

00:31:58.000 All right.

00:32:00.000 Yeah, it does.

00:32:01.000 All right.

00:32:01.000 Yeah.

00:32:02.000 First chat for Chat Thursday from Doso Klakos.

00:32:05.000 Why would Trump release the Epstein list now?

00:32:07.000 No political timing, return on investment, and give up your leverage on the most powerful people while investigations are ongoing seems like a dumb move.

00:32:16.000 What investigations are ongoing?

00:32:18.000 Yeah, Jelaine.

00:32:20.000 I don't even, I never know how to pronounce her.

00:32:22.000 Yeah.

00:32:22.000 Maxwell.

00:32:23.000 She's in jail.

00:32:24.000 Why?

00:32:25.000 Yeah.

00:32:26.000 Why is she in jail?

00:32:27.000 Yeah, also.

00:32:28.000 There should be other people in that pipeline and process.

00:32:31.000 If she's in jail for doing something.

00:32:33.000 It's like, hey, you're in jail for selling 200 kilos of crack.

00:32:36.000 Yes.

00:32:37.000 Oh, who'd you sell it to?

00:32:39.000 Or I'm a distributor and I have dealers all over the place.

00:32:39.000 Right.

00:32:42.000 Who are the dealers?

00:32:44.000 Also, I don't want you to promise me something that you're going to give me something.

00:32:47.000 I know.

00:32:48.000 As your voter, or as people call supporter, I don't like the word supporter because I'm not a supporter.

00:32:52.000 I'm not supporters.

00:32:52.000 I vote.

00:32:54.000 I'm not going to your fucking little league games.

00:32:58.000 Or your open mic.

00:32:59.000 I'm not going to Trump's open mic.

00:33:01.000 So he told his voters that he was going to release his stuff and then didn't.

00:33:01.000 Yeah.

00:33:05.000 And then you're saying, leverage?

00:33:06.000 I don't want you using leverage against me.

00:33:08.000 I voted for you, dude.

00:33:10.000 I voted for you to do this, not for you to keep it as leverage.

00:33:13.000 I think they mean leverage against the political opponents who might be in the.

00:33:16.000 No, I know that's what they mean, but yes, I know that's what they mean.

00:33:21.000 That's how I feel about it.

00:33:23.000 No, you say leverage.

00:33:24.000 I don't want you to use it.

00:33:25.000 You said you're going to put it out.

00:33:25.000 Put it out.

00:33:26.000 I want you to wait till the fourth year.

00:33:28.000 He's look, I'm, I'm.

00:33:28.000 Right.

00:33:28.000 Yeah.

00:33:30.000 Or, you know, I'm not the like political rocket scientist or anything over here, but if he saw this play coming, he handled it the exact opposite way of what he should do.

00:33:38.000 If he saw the Democrats trying to use this to kind of bog down his administration because of Epstein files and everything else, he should have come out immediately and said, you know what?

00:33:46.000 Listen, you guys have known for a very long time that Jeff Epstein was in social circles that sometimes crossed with mine.

00:33:52.000 This guy was never a close confidant or a friend of mine.

00:33:54.000 I kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago.

00:33:55.000 I cooperated with the authorities.

00:33:56.000 But guess what the Democrats are going to try to do?

00:33:59.000 They're going to try to show you some footage from a wedding back in the early 90s where he happened to be in the same room.

00:34:05.000 I may have had a conversation with him for a minute or two, and they're going to try to make you think that I, along with Epstein and everybody else that supposedly is on that list, did things wrong.

00:34:15.000 That don't buy it.

00:34:17.000 You can find the files.

00:34:18.000 If someone had a video camera, you could find videos or pictures of me at banquets with people I can't stand.

00:34:24.000 That's why I don't go to any of them anymore.

00:34:25.000 That's why I didn't go to the presidential, the inaugural ball, which I received a formal invite.

00:34:30.000 I was like, I just, you know why?

00:34:32.000 Because some of these people are going to do something that I don't agree with, and I don't want to be on the hook for it.

00:34:35.000 And I'm definitely going to do some shit that they don't agree with.

00:34:37.000 And I don't want them to be on the hook for it either.

00:34:39.000 They do the same thing to comedians.

00:34:40.000 A comedian gets accused of some kind of sexual misbehavior, not even rape or something, just some kind of sexual deviance or whatever.

00:34:47.000 And they go, oh, look, look, look, look, look, you were on a show with them.

00:34:50.000 Right.

00:34:51.000 I'm not best buddies with them.

00:34:53.000 I wanted $25 in chicken tenders.

00:34:55.000 What do you want from me?

00:34:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:57.000 That's what they try and do.

00:34:58.000 I wanted to tell my stupid poop joke.

00:35:00.000 Right.

00:35:01.000 It's not stupid.

00:35:02.000 It's a brilliant poop joke.

00:35:03.000 Thank you.

00:35:05.000 It takes a lot of practice.

00:35:06.000 Eight minutes, but I think it's pretty good.

00:35:08.000 Eight minutes.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 Which, by the way, is the minimum amount of time it takes me to do a poop.

00:35:14.000 Next chat.

00:35:15.000 Next chat from Revolution.

00:35:16.000 You're going to do it.

00:35:17.000 Do it right.

00:35:18.000 Next chat from Revan.

00:35:19.000 All out.

00:35:21.000 All right, next chat.

00:35:23.000 You've got to commit.

00:35:24.000 You got to commit.

00:35:25.000 Next chat from Revan's Padawan.

00:35:27.000 Has anyone noticed that everyone who came out against Crowder is crashing?

00:35:30.000 Oh.

00:35:31.000 Oh, interesting.

00:35:32.000 Apparently you said that.

00:35:35.000 I did see somebody right now.

00:35:37.000 There's a lot of them.

00:35:38.000 Southern, a little bit.

00:35:40.000 Ashley St. Clair, let's not forget her.

00:35:42.000 Who else is on this list of people that have come out?

00:35:45.000 Oh, Candace.

00:35:46.000 Well, no, I said that one to start with.

00:35:47.000 Yeah, there's just, it seems.

00:35:49.000 Let's not go on at Candace.

00:35:50.000 Lauren Chen.

00:35:51.000 I forgot the tenant thing with Lauren Chen.

00:35:51.000 That's right.

00:35:54.000 Let's not go on a vendetta.

00:35:56.000 Jeremy's a little on the outside.

00:35:59.000 It's been very interesting to see kind of the look.

00:36:05.000 I will tell you this.

00:36:05.000 I'm the same guy.

00:36:06.000 I believe the same things.

00:36:07.000 I have the same close inner circle that I've had for a very long time.

00:36:12.000 And I've not made promises that I can't keep.

00:36:14.000 That's what I try.

00:36:15.000 I try to not make promises that I can't.

00:36:17.000 Of course I'm not perfect.

00:36:18.000 Of course I've made mistakes.

00:36:20.000 And of course I made even more mistakes when I was a young 20-something year old in the spotlight.

00:36:25.000 But I've been in the spotlight to whatever degree now for a longer, probably double the amount of time of the next closest person.

00:36:34.000 And we've had to weather some storms.

00:36:35.000 And when you get to a certain point, you see it coming.

00:36:38.000 You're like, oh, okay, this is going to be what New York Post says an employee sell my balls.

00:36:42.000 But that was the thing.

00:36:43.000 I saw a comment on one of your posts the other day.

00:36:45.000 It was, isn't this the guy that, isn't this the guy that was abusing his employees?

00:36:49.000 And I was like, first I'm hearing of it.

00:36:51.000 Yeah.

00:36:52.000 Well, I also had a custom cappuccino machine and the thing like every, it's like all these things where it's just so you just go, okay, all right, fine.

00:36:59.000 But you know what?

00:37:01.000 Haven't had a scandal of being sued and being wrong.

00:37:03.000 Haven't had a scandal of making a claim that is verifiably false as far as fidelity, as far as drug use.

00:37:10.000 You can read rumors that I'm a man whore, which of course is very, I'm one of the few people who you can prove that's not the case through court records for at least nine years.

00:37:19.000 And then rumors that I'm gay.

00:37:21.000 You can read.

00:37:22.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 Rumors.

00:37:23.000 I mean, you can just like, you can go either way.

00:37:23.000 Yeah.

00:37:27.000 Take a pick.

00:37:28.000 It's going to go both ways.

00:37:29.000 And people, that I'm an Israeli shell and that I'm a Nazi.

00:37:33.000 Whatever.

00:37:34.000 I don't know that everyone's crashing.

00:37:36.000 I do know that, yeah, the people you mentioned, Lauren Southern, Lauren Chen, Candace Owens.

00:37:42.000 I think there's definitely a point to be made that a lot of people who made accusations or a lot of people who made claims about you are now showing that they have a pattern of behavior that shows that they don't always have the right facts or they don't always have the exclusive scoop or that they will lie about something.

00:38:01.000 Well, this wasn't covering behavior.

00:38:03.000 Yeah, it wasn't just covering the situation, which is understandable.

00:38:06.000 Like if you're covering a situation, you're trying to understand what's going on and you may have an opinion that, you know, but this was like, this was outright attacking.

00:38:13.000 This was outright coming out and trying to try to destroy.

00:38:16.000 And look, I'll just say it, this is obviously a strategy going on.

00:38:20.000 We all know who was behind that strategy to try to destroy you.

00:38:23.000 Sure.

00:38:24.000 To extort you.

00:38:24.000 I talked about this on the show.

00:38:26.000 That was extortion.

00:38:27.000 Yep.

00:38:28.000 That was the whole plan behind this.

00:38:31.000 And I'm going to dangle your career in front of your face and say, if you want to keep this, you'll do exactly what we say.

00:38:37.000 And that is evil.

00:38:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:40.000 And we didn't talk about it until we had to talk about it.

00:38:42.000 I still have never talked about it beyond acknowledging that it was happening.

00:38:46.000 And I don't.

00:38:47.000 No more.

00:38:49.000 I will say this.

00:38:49.000 But I will say this.

00:38:50.000 You talked about projection.

00:38:51.000 It's not for you because you can't talk about it and defend yourself.

00:38:53.000 I choose not to.

00:38:53.000 I can.

00:38:54.000 I know.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, but you're doing all right.

00:38:58.000 I will say this.

00:38:59.000 It Was clearly projection on the grounds of those three that you mentioned.

00:39:03.000 So, Candace Owens, he's actually lying, and these people are going to get fired.

00:39:07.000 No, Candace Owens has been found to be someone who lies and puts other people on the hook.

00:39:12.000 Okay, that is projection.

00:39:13.000 Lauren Southern, what a horrible husband.

00:39:16.000 Okay, we now know that you were doing drugs, out gallivanting, and I believe confirmed cheating on your husband, the man who you claimed was an absolute monster and you had to get your kids away from.

00:39:27.000 Talk about projection.

00:39:28.000 Lauren Chen, at one point, she was with the Nick Fuentes thing.

00:39:31.000 And oh, look at all big conservatives.

00:39:33.000 They're the ones taking money and they're the ones who are bought and paid for, was literally taking money knowingly, in her case, knowingly from a foreign asset and lying to people who she was paying about it.

00:39:45.000 So in those cases, those specific examples is they were accusing me of doing something.

00:39:51.000 And even in their accusations, they were much, much milder than what they were actually doing.

00:39:54.000 Okay, let me do this.

00:39:55.000 Lauren Chen, you're right.

00:39:57.000 I get money from Muggs.

00:39:58.000 You get money from Russia.

00:40:01.000 Okay, Lauren Southern, you're right.

00:40:02.000 Okay, imperfect husband, everyone, things, even the edited stuff taken completely out of context with no infidelity and no ability, according to long-standing court records.

00:40:11.000 You were doing MDMA and cocaine in England with other men.

00:40:16.000 Yeah, but she wasn't smoking a cigar.

00:40:18.000 Right, yeah, exactly.

00:40:19.000 Okay.

00:40:19.000 Okay, Candace Owens, liar about Nashville.

00:40:23.000 Okay, but all of that was right.

00:40:26.000 You just make shit up.

00:40:28.000 And sometimes it's proven verifiably false, and you're going to be on the hook for it.

00:40:32.000 I can't marry a lord.

00:40:35.000 You can.

00:40:36.000 I mean, I technically could.

00:40:37.000 You could.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, you can.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, I technically could.

00:40:39.000 It is 2025.

00:40:40.000 So I have to be prudent.

00:40:41.000 And it's not like we don't, it's not like we're ever walking on eggshells.

00:40:44.000 Can we not?

00:40:44.000 Like, can we say this?

00:40:45.000 Because we just start off and go, okay, well, what's the story?

00:40:46.000 What's true?

00:40:48.000 And then we base our comedy or whatever we do around that.

00:40:52.000 But we make sure that the points we just start off with, of course, we're trying to be correct.

00:40:56.000 Well, look, perfect example from this show.

00:40:56.000 Right.

00:40:59.000 Commenting on Trump's handling of the Epstein case is not going to win us any friends.

00:41:04.000 Some people will be happy that we talked about it, but a lot of people that are just like, anything bad about Trump, anything negative should just be kept to yourself.

00:41:12.000 There's a lot of people like that.

00:41:13.000 We're not trying to hurt the guy.

00:41:14.000 We're trying to make sure he avoids these missteps because he's doing such a phenomenal job.

00:41:18.000 Even at that, you know.

00:41:19.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 Hurt the guy or not hurt the guy.

00:41:21.000 You know, right is right.

00:41:22.000 Wrong is wrong.

00:41:23.000 And also what they're getting.

00:41:23.000 Yeah.

00:41:25.000 Yeah.

00:41:26.000 That's wrong.

00:41:26.000 He handles it wrong.

00:41:27.000 Them saying, and look at this private birthday letter, which is false, is wrong.

00:41:30.000 Just like Candace saying, there's no photographic evidence.

00:41:33.000 There is.

00:41:34.000 All right.

00:41:34.000 Next chat.

00:41:35.000 Well, next chat from Sleazy Banana Slug.

00:41:37.000 Uh-oh.

00:41:38.000 Question for the crew.

00:41:39.000 Should Trump fire Pam Bondi for this giant flop?

00:41:41.000 Yes, yes.

00:41:42.000 If so, who would be a better person for Abbott?

00:41:44.000 I don't know who would be anyone.

00:41:45.000 For this giant flop, no, for a lot of reasons, yes.

00:41:48.000 There was somebody that they floated recently that would be really good.

00:41:51.000 I can't remember the name.

00:41:52.000 Crap.

00:41:52.000 Never mind.

00:41:53.000 That doesn't matter.

00:41:53.000 I thought it was going to come to Columbo.

00:41:56.000 Not Matt Gates.

00:41:57.000 Matt Locke.

00:41:59.000 Nash Bridges.

00:42:01.000 Matt Locke.

00:42:02.000 If it was Matt Locke, not the new one with Kathy Bates, the original Matt Lock.

00:42:05.000 Oh, the original.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, if it was Matt Locke, it'd just be Donald Trump every day getting on your phone call like, what in the holy hell?

00:42:08.000 Matt Locke's in another car, Chase.

00:42:10.000 Oh, no.

00:42:12.000 So I genuinely would sooner put anyone in this room in that position, and I believe they could do a better job than Pam Bondi.

00:42:20.000 Just because I don't believe she's very capable, and she has too many intertwined interests, if you look at her background.

00:42:26.000 Also, you know the integrity of the people in this room.

00:42:28.000 Yes.

00:42:29.000 There's that.

00:42:30.000 Somebody who's incompetent is sometimes more desirable than somebody who is.

00:42:35.000 Yeah.

00:42:35.000 And I don't think that any of you would give up competency to Pam Bondi, but I think she gives up integrity to anyone in this room.

00:42:42.000 And I just also, I don't, no one in this room is compromised to the degree that she is.

00:42:46.000 So I would sooner pick anybody.

00:42:47.000 She should have been fired.

00:42:48.000 She never should have been given this position.

00:42:49.000 Next chat.

00:42:50.000 All right.

00:42:51.000 Next chat from Mariano Alvarez.

00:42:54.000 Question for Crowder.

00:42:55.000 I understand why you're not willing at this point to assume Trump was slash is in on the Epstein files cover-up.

00:43:02.000 What would slash should be needed to convince you otherwise?

00:43:06.000 Okay, if the files were released and it showed that Donald Trump still maintained a friendly relationship with receipts for a long period of time with Epstein after he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago, post-conviction, I would go, okay, well then this isn't necessarily, and it seems like there might be something there.

00:43:24.000 There would have to be a significant ongoing relationship after the conviction and after Donald Trump coordinated with authorities.

00:43:33.000 I mean, for example, it'd be like coming out and someone, someone who, let's say, got involved with criminal activity because they were raised in a bad neighborhood and didn't quite know and got pulled in, you know, and then them going, oh my gosh, I don't want to be involved with this, and then went and alerted the authorities and worked with them.

00:43:46.000 And for the rest of their life, someone going like, yeah, but you were in a gang.

00:43:49.000 It's like, well, yeah, hold on a second, though.

00:43:51.000 Like, they did change, right?

00:43:53.000 That does matter, especially if you, I guarantee you, people did not know right off the bat that Epstein had a sex island, right?

00:44:02.000 Like, you kind of have to ease people into the sex island thing.

00:44:07.000 That's not in the brochure.

00:44:09.000 Yeah, you don't lead with that.

00:44:11.000 No, I guess for most people, I mean, it seems like there was a moment from what we know now, and again, that's what would, hopefully that answers your question, that's what would change it, that Trump was around with it because he was around everywhere where people were wealthy.

00:44:22.000 Probably like, oh, yeah, hey, do you like golf?

00:44:24.000 I love golf.

00:44:26.000 Yeah, and do you like, do you like private jets?

00:44:28.000 Love private jets.

00:44:29.000 Can't get enough of them.

00:44:30.000 You like 14-year-old girls?

00:44:31.000 The fuck?

00:44:33.000 That's what seems to have happened.

00:44:35.000 Next chapter.

00:44:36.000 We all want the information released, but I really don't like this whole idea of guilty until proven innocent has kind of taken over.

00:44:41.000 It has, but again, it's part of the missteps.

00:44:43.000 The missteps have led people to run down every conspiracy theory trail that is out there because they're not handling this the right way.

00:44:50.000 So that's the problem that I have.

00:44:52.000 Like we've made jokes, it's a very weird combination, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton.

00:44:57.000 Yes.

00:44:57.000 But you never heard me say they were going to Sex Island.

00:44:59.000 It seems like they were doing some kind of thing, you know, like kind of like a live aid type thing, speaking for some sort of philanthropy organizations.

00:45:06.000 I don't know what it is.

00:45:07.000 You never heard me say, oh, Chris Tucker was banging chicks on the island or Kevin Spacey.

00:45:11.000 I mean, if anything, we know that Kevin Spacey was not banging chicks on the island.

00:45:16.000 Or if he was, it was part of his coverage.

00:45:18.000 His flavor.

00:45:20.000 What?

00:45:20.000 She's 14?

00:45:21.000 Call me when you get a boy.

00:45:25.000 Stop it.

00:45:25.000 I didn't write these rules.

00:45:26.000 I just call them.

00:45:27.000 Stop it.

00:45:27.000 All right, next chat.

00:45:29.000 Next chat from Warman10.

00:45:31.000 Question for crew.

00:45:32.000 With a great trade deal being made with Japan, which country do you hope is next to make similar deals?

00:45:37.000 Canada.

00:45:38.000 No.

00:45:39.000 No.

00:45:39.000 Well, actually, you know what?

00:45:40.000 I hope they do or they should be.

00:45:41.000 I do want Canada to have a great deal with us.

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:44.000 They're great neighbors to the North or whatever.

00:45:47.000 They were.

00:45:48.000 They were.

00:45:48.000 They suck right now.

00:45:49.000 I know Lane the Brain was definitely holding out for this one.

00:45:53.000 This one was the biggest for him.

00:45:55.000 I think.

00:45:56.000 I don't think I'm misspeaking.

00:45:57.000 They're one of our best partners in the world.

00:45:59.000 So this deal getting done, I think, made a lot of sense.

00:46:01.000 He's also very biased towards Asian countries, but I don't know if there's anything.

00:46:05.000 Pan seems good at business.

00:46:06.000 They seem like good at making compromise for business.

00:46:09.000 Good at immigration, good at business.

00:46:11.000 Yep.

00:46:13.000 Good at riddar cars over there.

00:46:14.000 When it comes to racism, they're tops.

00:46:16.000 They're actually aces.

00:46:18.000 They're aces.

00:46:18.000 It's one of those things that want to be worse at racism, but they're very good at racism.

00:46:23.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 Now I get why you stand up so often.

00:46:24.000 My butt cheek has fallen asleep.

00:46:26.000 It does.

00:46:26.000 Does that ever happen to you?

00:46:27.000 It's like what do you think?

00:46:29.000 Where my butt cheek meets my butt streak.

00:46:30.000 My butt streak?

00:46:31.000 My butt streak.

00:46:32.000 Stop it.

00:46:34.000 Like Andre the Giant.

00:46:35.000 I wear a diaper dinner shirt.

00:46:36.000 That's true.

00:46:37.000 Boxers are briefs.

00:46:38.000 That depends.

00:46:38.000 I does for fun.

00:46:39.000 I could hold it, but.

00:46:41.000 They were briefly boxers, but now.

00:46:47.000 Next chat.

00:46:48.000 You just make that kid face where you're like.

00:46:50.000 Yeah, white boxers was a bad choice for yesterday's sketch.

00:46:55.000 All right.

00:46:56.000 All right.

00:46:57.000 Next chat from Ibrahim Asmadeus.

00:46:58.000 Asmadeus, Asmadeus.

00:47:00.000 Question: Do you think the deportations are affecting the blue-collar job market the way the Dems are crying?

00:47:05.000 It is.

00:47:07.000 Ginger Snap, one of them there.

00:47:09.000 We had a source, and I didn't think it was necessarily super relevant.

00:47:11.000 I might have been wrong about that.

00:47:12.000 But, you know, under Biden, there were no native-born American jobs created, but many, many millions of foreign-born workers.

00:47:19.000 And it's switched now, where I believe a million new native-born jobs have been added.

00:47:24.000 And I don't remember the number of foreign-born workers.

00:47:27.000 Those jobs have actually decreased.

00:47:29.000 So it suggests that it's actually just rebalancing.

00:47:31.000 I've never bought into the idea that these people are doing jobs that Americans refuse to do.

00:47:35.000 Nope.

00:47:36.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:37.000 It's just there's no evidence of that.

00:47:40.000 People try and point at them and it's like, well, if that was the case, why would they hire them?

00:47:43.000 Because they can get cheap labor.

00:47:43.000 They can pay them under the table.

00:47:44.000 They can control them more easily.

00:47:45.000 It's indentured servitude.

00:47:47.000 So I don't know.

00:47:48.000 What are the Democrats trying to say right now that, oh, people aren't able to do these jobs?

00:47:52.000 Because we're not seeing it through inflation.

00:47:53.000 No.

00:47:54.000 We're not seeing it.

00:47:54.000 We're not seeing it in all the other economic indicators as far as labor force participation.

00:47:58.000 The one metric that we're going to be able to do is under Trump so far.

00:48:16.000 If that was, I mean, you would just call that a rebalancing of anything else.

00:48:19.000 You'd be balancing the scales.

00:48:21.000 So to me, I see that as a win.

00:48:23.000 It's crazy that people see that as a loss.

00:48:24.000 It's crazy that people see that as a bad thing.

00:48:26.000 Listen, it's wild to me.

00:48:28.000 Yeah, I couldn't.

00:48:28.000 We could disagree on so many other social issues, but that right there, it's crazy to me that people are like, that's a bad thing that more Americans are getting jobs.

00:48:37.000 And it's also a net job gain if it's 1.5 versus 1 million loss.

00:48:41.000 Yes.

00:48:41.000 Which means there's a rebalancing where it's going to people who absolutely verifiably have a right to be here.

00:48:46.000 Not that all foreign-born workers are here illegally, but priority should be placed on people who are here, not visiting, and a net gain of jobs overall.

00:48:54.000 Great.

00:48:55.000 Next chat.

00:48:56.000 All right.

00:48:57.000 Next chat from Amanda D. Nice1.

00:49:00.000 Question for the crew.

00:49:01.000 I'm neutral on Candace, but why should someone from another country be allowed to sue someone in our country?

00:49:06.000 We don't even share all the same laws, and he doesn't live in Delaware.

00:49:11.000 Yeah, I understand that.

00:49:13.000 I mean, this is where we have to, we want to get Bill in on here because he understands sort of the jurisdiction issues.

00:49:20.000 I don't know if she has a dual citizenship because she's married to a lord.

00:49:25.000 As I understand it.

00:49:26.000 I thought it was claimed in the filing.

00:49:27.000 I know it was claimed in the filing.

00:49:29.000 So it's kind of a complicated issue, I guess.

00:49:32.000 She's had some strong opinions on that.

00:49:33.000 So if that turns out to be the case.

00:49:34.000 It's interesting.

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 I mean, I was automatically granted dual citizenship because my mom is, even though I was born in Detroit, my mom's Canadian.

00:49:40.000 And I've been on air saying, how do I renounce it?

00:49:42.000 I just, I mean, I just don't have any, I don't have any evidence of a Canadian citizenship at this point because my birth certificate is American.

00:49:48.000 I don't have a Canadian passport.

00:49:50.000 I don't have my social maladie, my socialized health care card.

00:49:54.000 There's no proof that I have that automatic Canadian citizenship and I've just never sought it.

00:49:59.000 But if I need to, if there's a way for me to publicly renounce it, I would love to do that.

00:50:03.000 I don't think you could even convince Canadians that you were a Canadian citizen.

00:50:07.000 I mean, I lived there.

00:50:08.000 What did you present to the authorities?

00:50:09.000 I lived there?

00:50:10.000 Okay.

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:11.000 Yeah.

00:50:11.000 I mean, I lived there from three to 18.

00:50:12.000 It doesn't matter.

00:50:13.000 They're not going to give you citizenship for that.

00:50:15.000 We kick people out for that here in this case.

00:50:16.000 No, no, no, but I automatically have it.

00:50:18.000 No, I'm saying, I know.

00:50:19.000 I'm just saying, like, if you walked up as John Doe off the street and said, hey, yeah, I don't have any paperwork.

00:50:24.000 How do you prove you're a citizen?

00:50:24.000 Well, I can't.

00:50:25.000 Right.

00:50:26.000 So I guess it solved itself.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 I agree with you, I understand, as far as suing because we have different, here's the thing.

00:50:32.000 We do have different freedom of speech laws, right?

00:50:34.000 The First Amendment.

00:50:36.000 But just look at the Donald Trump case.

00:50:38.000 Look at the, not Cal Rittenhouse, but Nick Sandman case, these defamation cases that have, look at the Gawker case, those occur domestically.

00:50:45.000 So that's not a First Amendment issue.

00:50:46.000 In other words, people can be liable for defamation, for slander, for libel here in the States, even within the same state, certainly within the same country.

00:50:54.000 So I would imagine that there's a case to be made that we still all have a pretty similar standard of defamation and libel.

00:51:02.000 So it's not like the courts that they're suing Candace through are the American courts.

00:51:09.000 Yes.

00:51:09.000 So that's where it would because you don't have to be a citizen of America to sue somebody in America.

00:51:15.000 No, that's exactly right.

00:51:16.000 No, and I think this is honestly a good thing they sent in a note.

00:51:19.000 Like, we do want to make sure that, you know, because if that was the case and we couldn't sue somebody over there, they couldn't sue over here.

00:51:24.000 They could just spew blatant lies about us.

00:51:26.000 It doesn't matter where it's coming from.

00:51:27.000 It can still be disseminated in that country.

00:51:29.000 Right.

00:51:29.000 And I would have no recourse.

00:51:31.000 Right.

00:51:31.000 You know?

00:51:32.000 Yeah.

00:51:32.000 So I think that.

00:51:33.000 But it goes both ways, too.

00:51:34.000 Like, if the tables are turned and they're saying Candace is a hammerhead shark.

00:51:41.000 Yeah.

00:51:43.000 Would Candace be able to go use the French courts?

00:51:46.000 She'd have an uphill climb with that one.

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 But she'd be able to do it.

00:51:49.000 She'd have to subject herself to violence.

00:51:50.000 But our country, you know, our country is different.

00:51:52.000 Yeah.

00:51:52.000 I will say this.

00:51:53.000 It would be very different, for example, if they were suing her on the grounds of something, you know, like English law.

00:51:57.000 Like you said something offensive that is hate speech, that should immediately be thrown out.

00:52:01.000 It's like, well, that doesn't apply here in this country.

00:52:03.000 But the civil liabilities of defamation absolutely apply.

00:52:06.000 They still apply either way.

00:52:07.000 Yeah, just like, let's say you're on vacation here in the States and you get raped in Miami and you go, but of course you're allowed to come back and press charges because you're still a human being.

00:52:15.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:16.000 Yeah, that's a great comparison.

00:52:17.000 It's not real.

00:52:18.000 Romania, like when you leave, you can call the police and file a police report there.

00:52:22.000 Are you talking about Southern?

00:52:24.000 Oh, yeah, the non-rape of Lauren Southern and Andrew Tape.

00:52:27.000 And I'm not a hunting chicken.

00:52:28.000 It's Romania, right?

00:52:29.000 Yeah.

00:52:29.000 I don't know.

00:52:30.000 Okay, final chat.

00:52:31.000 And then what's the clock with Rumble Live lineup right now?

00:52:34.000 Who goes on at 1 Eastern?

00:52:37.000 So it switched back and forth for a minute, but I think it's back to Russell Brand, right?

00:52:42.000 Social Brand?

00:52:42.000 Okay.

00:52:43.000 All right.

00:52:43.000 So final chat, and then we are going to send the rest of you on to Russell Brand.

00:52:47.000 All right.

00:52:48.000 Final chat from Deepati.

00:52:50.000 Praise God, the crowderless July is over.

00:52:52.000 With so many wins, despite Epsom.

00:52:54.000 Hold on a second.

00:52:55.000 It wasn't a crowderless July.

00:52:57.000 And it wasn't even two weeks because we released two very labor-intensive super videos.

00:53:01.000 Technically, we did our last show July 2nd.

00:53:05.000 It's still July.

00:53:06.000 Our last live show.

00:53:07.000 Listen, last live show, but then it was holiday for July 4th every year.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, basically off for them.

00:53:11.000 We released something on Monday, and then we released something the following Monday, and then the following Wednesday we came back.

00:53:16.000 Yeah.

00:53:17.000 So it would have been three weeks minus two episodes minus the July 4th holiday.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, so less than two weeks overall.

00:53:22.000 Yeah, so you're Julying right now.

00:53:24.000 We're still July.

00:53:25.000 Well, to give you an idea, when we do a super video like that, we'll often miss at least one show, sometimes two, because it just takes so much time to do.

00:53:32.000 So, you know, it's the best we can do, and none of us get a full two weeks off when we do it.

00:53:37.000 But anyway, that's it.

00:53:38.000 We did a vacation.

00:53:39.000 I needed a reason to go almost get kicked out of Legoland.

00:53:42.000 I need a reason to almost get into a fist fight at Great Wolf Lodge with a douche lifeguard.

00:53:46.000 I told that story on Aaron.

00:53:47.000 We both almost got into fist fights a different.

00:53:49.000 I don't think I did.

00:53:49.000 I'll tell it tomorrow.

00:53:51.000 Give you guys a reason to tune in.

00:53:52.000 There you go.

00:53:52.000 What's the chat again?

00:53:53.000 All right.

00:53:54.000 With so many wins, despite Epstein nonsense, what is your thoughts on what should be the next policy focus?

00:54:00.000 Josh, thank you for your service.

00:54:01.000 And I'm guessing Rangers lead the way.

00:54:03.000 All the way.

00:54:04.000 Yeah.

00:54:05.000 I assume that's correct.

00:54:07.000 What would be the next focus?

00:54:10.000 Gosh.

00:54:11.000 Focus should always obviously be the economy.

00:54:13.000 The focus should be, I just heard that they're now offering incentives to bring back ICE agents who retired, including like signing bonuses, because I think 10,000 quit, if I'm not mistaken, under Biden.

00:54:22.000 So bringing them in, so actually making sure that those funds are appropriated so that ICE can step up the deportations.

00:54:28.000 Because I will tell you this, that is something that We can't forget that we need to keep our foot on the gas before the next election because you're not going to actually see the positive change until we hit the right number of deportations, and we've already largely solved the border being secure.

00:54:42.000 So that's still important.

00:54:43.000 Of course, it's still important to focus on these trade deals.

00:54:46.000 It's important to always try and foster the best economy possible.

00:54:49.000 I'd like to see some specific policies that help small or medium-sized businesses.

00:54:55.000 What were we about to say?

00:54:55.000 Section 230 stuff.

00:54:57.000 Yes.

00:54:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:58.000 Sorry.

00:54:58.000 Yeah, of course.

00:54:59.000 I knew there was something hanging out there that was still unresolved.

00:55:01.000 He's touched on a lot of different topics, but that's one right now that is still out there.

00:55:05.000 And look, from what I've seen and what I've heard, it seems like some of these sites are actually loosening their guidelines a little bit, but that's it ebbs and flows.

00:55:14.000 They're never really fully.

00:55:15.000 It needs to be codified into law.

00:55:16.000 Exactly.

00:55:17.000 And you need recourse.

00:55:18.000 Yeah.

00:55:18.000 As somebody who's out here creating content, you know, like if you're on YouTube and that's your platform and they just shut you down for no reason, like one, why are you just on YouTube?

00:55:26.000 But two, like that, there has to be some kind of way to fix that.

00:55:30.000 Yeah.

00:55:30.000 With 230 in place, there's never going to be a way.

00:55:32.000 Right.

00:55:33.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:55:34.000 And like we've said, it really is an easy first step.

00:55:36.000 And the fact that no one has been doing it yet is remarkable.

00:55:40.000 It's one of those, it's kind of like Epstein, it becomes political football and people don't really do what they kind of all agree should be done.

00:55:45.000 So Section 230 gives them safe harbor protections, which means that Facebook, you know, Meta, YouTube, Google, Twitter, TikTok, they're given these safe harbor laws where they're treated like a, and I've talked about this quite a bit, but it's always good to have a refresher, they're treated like a digital town square, where basically, or they're treated like a utility, just like Verizon isn't liable.

00:56:04.000 If you call and say, hey, neo-Nazi meeting at 4 p.m., okay, great.

00:56:08.000 No one can sue Verizon and say, hey, you're supporting neo-Nazis, right?

00:56:11.000 Because at that point, it's treated as a utility.

00:56:13.000 Now, the problem is these social media platforms are treated, they're given protection as a utility so that they are not liable for what's on there.

00:56:19.000 If someone posts a horrible comment, of course, they shouldn't be.

00:56:21.000 As opposed to a publisher like New York Times or Wall Street Journal, they're going to find out very soon that if you publish something that you chose to publish knowingly, you are held responsible for that because you're a publisher.

00:56:32.000 Not just anyone can post there.

00:56:35.000 The problem is these platforms claim that anyone can post there, and they have very egregiously been removing people because of points of view, not just demonetizing, but removing and censoring, in some cases at the behest of the government, as we saw with the Biden administration.

00:56:50.000 So it's a really, really easy first step.

00:56:53.000 You just need to sit them down and go, okay, so are you a utility or are you a publisher?

00:57:00.000 For a utility, you have to follow speech laws.

00:57:03.000 You have to follow consent laws as far as states, meaning investigative journalism.

00:57:08.000 You have to follow the state laws.

00:57:08.000 You can't make them up.

00:57:09.000 If it's a single-party consent state, you can't remove investigative journalism.

00:57:12.000 You cannot remove people because they do something that you deem offensive.

00:57:17.000 And you can't strip people of their ability to make a living.

00:57:19.000 And that's either removal, ban, shadow banning.

00:57:22.000 You cannot favor certain people based on point of view.

00:57:25.000 Otherwise, you will be treated as a publisher like the Wall Street Journal, like the New York Times, which is how you're acting right now in selecting and modifying content.

00:57:36.000 And if you do that, enjoy your lawsuits.

00:57:39.000 We're going to see you tomorrow.

00:57:40.000 That Lifeguard was a real dick.

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🔴Is Trump Confirmed To Be on the Epstein List - What the Hell Is Going On? 2025-07-24 18:08

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