Louder with Crowder - “It’s White B*tches!” | Black & White on the Gray Issues

00:00:00.000 Do you have to renew your license at all?

00:00:01.000 Like, for a beauty license?

00:00:03.000 How often?

00:00:04.000 Every two years.

00:00:05.000 And what's the test like?

00:00:06.000 I do 15 minutes of sex trafficking, and then you gotta do five hours of just continual education.

00:00:12.000 What'd you say?

00:00:13.000 Sex trafficking?

00:00:15.000 Okay.

00:00:16.000 You're gonna have to give... What?

00:00:22.000 The chasm between white and black Americans is growing wider with each passing day.

00:00:27.000 Our views, culture, general outlook on life are so different that even living in the same community, sharing the same space, is something that's almost unfeasible.

00:00:37.000 At least, that's what you'd believe.

00:00:40.000 If you're an avid consumer of legacy media.

00:00:43.000 Trust should not be doled out easily to anyone, especially white people.

00:00:47.000 Here's the thing I've noticed, and you can comment if this is the same for you.

00:00:51.000 It doesn't match up at all with my lived experiences, and that's what's inspired me to actually do what the likes of these legacy media outlets refuse to do.

00:01:00.000 Get out into the community and have real conversations with average Americans.

00:01:05.000 Black Americans.

00:01:06.000 White Americans. 0.51

00:01:07.000 Not caricatures of what the media thinks black people are.

00:01:11.000 People like Van Jones.

00:01:13.000 I was shaking listening to him talk.

00:01:15.000 In the latest installment of this series I made my way to a cultural mainstay in modern black American society, the barber shop.

00:01:23.000 Because really what better place to find authentic unfiltered perspective than the place that's iconically known as the breeding ground for conversation in the black community.

00:01:34.000 Do you think they'll pass me today?

00:01:39.000 That's interesting.

00:01:41.000 And what did I find?

00:01:42.000 Are black and white Americans as far apart from each other as we've been told?

00:01:47.000 Well, see for yourselves.

00:01:49.000 This is Black and White on the Gray Issues.

00:01:52.000 You know what it is? 1.00

00:01:54.000 It's white bitches. 1.00

00:01:54.000 I'm not gonna lie. 1.00

00:01:57.000 Oh, I don't give a shit. 1.00

00:01:59.000 It's white women. 1.00

00:02:02.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

00:02:03.000 Has there ever been a group of people That has had it better than white, and yes, I mean white women, not even white men, white women in the 21st century who complain more. 0.57

00:02:15.000 Think about it.

00:02:16.000 It's like, they have all the benefits of being like a protected class, but they're also just white people. 0.87

00:02:16.000 Everything. 0.87

00:02:22.000 So, you know, they just, and everything is a complaint.

00:02:25.000 And those are the ones who always get offended.

00:02:27.000 Like you saw at SMU, they come like, you can't say that.

00:02:29.000 Like, what the hell?

00:02:30.000 And that's how that started. 0.99

00:02:31.000 Like I would say like, that's racist.

00:02:32.000 I'm like, what's racist? 0.92

00:02:33.000 Say that black people make better comedians? 1.00

00:02:35.000 Like, have you heard of Richard Pryor?

00:02:36.000 Like, that's a, that's a compliment.

00:02:38.000 They're like, you can't say that.

00:02:38.000 Like I'm a comic.

00:02:40.000 They say it for black people, white women. 1.00

00:02:40.000 That's a stereotype. 1.00

00:02:43.000 You're just like, you just shut up.

00:02:44.000 Some people always just want to be heard and be seen saying a lot, but not saying anything at all. 0.90

00:02:50.000 I know.

00:02:51.000 You know, so it's white women, white people, you know, they have it easy. 1.00

00:02:59.000 No, it's not like that because I'm not that type of dude.

00:03:02.000 The white people do have it easy, but white women, absolutely, I absolutely agree with you. 0.98

00:03:06.000 I'm terrified.

00:03:08.000 You know, what gets me was, or is, I've been sitting at a, like, downtown Dallas.

00:03:14.000 Yeah.

00:03:15.000 And some people, uh, I walk by and they lock their door.

00:03:20.000 It's like, man, I have nothing, I would do nothing, anything to you, but just to be... Well, yeah, they also get the teardrop tattoo and think that means you bagged somebody, you know?

00:03:20.000 Yeah.

00:03:32.000 You gotta give them that.

00:03:34.000 But I'm not, I'm not, God is unapproachable.

00:03:37.000 I know, I know.

00:03:38.000 That means he's been initiated!

00:03:42.000 I saw Gran Torino, I know how this s**t ends!

00:03:44.000 I don't think that's very specific right there.

00:03:46.000 I don't think that's very specific right there.

00:03:53.000 You just seen that and you kind of like, Oh, just shift to this.

00:03:56.000 No.

00:03:57.000 Yeah.

00:03:58.000 Like I tell you what, if, if like, if I didn't know Post Malone and I was driving, I would

00:04:02.000 lock my doors.

00:04:03.000 You know, I'd hide my cocaine.

00:04:08.000 That's why it makes it stand out more though, because it's like you're making a statement like, did you see this?

00:04:15.000 If someone has like a bunch of tattoos, you just think they're a hipster.

00:04:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:04:19.000 But the teardrop, you think like, Well, because I come from, I was raised in Montreal, where the crazy thing is people don't realize like the biker gangs there.

00:04:29.000 A hundred and, I think it was a hundred and sixteen people were killed in a decade from biker gangs.

00:04:35.000 Like the biker gangs are going to sit here and they're like, we won't send, the hell's angels, like we're not going to send anyone out to Montreal. 1.00

00:04:40.000 They're incredibly violent because they have the ports set up a lot.

00:04:43.000 Everything comes into the ports in Montreal before it gets to New York.

00:04:46.000 And so, people kind of know there, it's not like a teardrop tattoo, but if you see that, like, three-piece rocker, you just, it's, it's a sign.

00:04:54.000 So it's the same thing in certain areas in the States, right?

00:04:54.000 They're letting you know.

00:04:56.000 If they see, like in LA, if you see a teardrop, for sure.

00:04:58.000 I mean, I lived in Englewood for a while.

00:05:01.000 If I saw teardrops there, I would, I'd be like, all right, I don't wear red, don't wear blue, you know, just stay neutral.

00:05:07.000 This would be the worst shirt to wear when I was in Englewood. 0.97

00:05:10.000 It's all earth tones and beige and khaki and sh**. 0.94

00:05:15.000 But I understand what you're saying, but it is... I'm being stereotyped, though. 0.96

00:05:18.000 Yeah.

00:05:19.000 But at the same time, I get it.

00:05:21.000 But I'm one of the people, I guess you have to get to know me.

00:05:24.000 You know?

00:05:24.000 Yeah.

00:05:25.000 Well, that's the same with a lot of... What I was saying, too, like, I'm stereotyping now. 1.00

00:05:28.000 Like, we can't be code blind, because that's stupid. 0.97

00:05:31.000 And then you can't just make it the sole identifying factor, right, is race. 0.99

00:05:34.000 Like, there's a middle ground.

00:05:35.000 Like, recognizing the differences and being like, that isn't what defines you.

00:05:39.000 Well, it's the same thing with anything, whether it's, you know, sexuality, orientation, it's like, hey, that's a part of you. 0.95

00:05:43.000 So when people are like, I don't see a color, it's like, so I know you're a liar.

00:05:47.000 Like, that's not true. 0.99

00:05:48.000 But you also don't want to be like all black people, all white people, and I know the irony is not lost on me, I just said white p****, but... 0.99

00:05:54.000 That's largely true. 0.96

00:05:57.000 It is, it's a weird, it's a weird time where you kind of have to pick one of these two lanes, and neither one is necessarily helpful.

00:06:04.000 And it's just, it really is often, like I will tell you this, my interactions with, generally speaking, like if I hold a door open, This will happen, everyone will tell you, especially after the Me Too era.

00:06:14.000 If I hold a door open for a black woman, you're just like, thank you! 1.00

00:06:18.000 If I hold a door open for a white woman, either they don't say thank you, or they're like, I can do it myself. 1.00

00:06:23.000 It's like, I didn't mean to ruin your whole day like that.

00:06:25.000 What do you think?

00:06:27.000 Do you think I'm trying to sexually assault you, holding a door open?

00:06:30.000 I have better interactions, and this is one of those, I have better interactions, generally speaking, with black women than white women, specifically, just because You can talk, and they're not looking for a reason to be offended. 1.00

00:06:45.000 All the time.

00:06:46.000 That wasn't your experience.

00:06:48.000 I had this experience on both sides.

00:06:51.000 I think that's upbringing.

00:06:52.000 Sure.

00:06:53.000 The way you was brought up and the way you are. 0.96

00:06:55.000 Because I've held the door open for a black woman, and she just walked on through. 1.00

00:06:58.000 And I'd be like, okay, well, you know.

00:07:00.000 I've held the door open for a white woman, and she'd done the same thing. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Sure.

00:07:06.000 White and black have said thank you as well, but some women, period, if I hold the door open and they don't say that, I'm like, okay, well, you know, I'm sarcastic. 1.00

00:07:19.000 What were your names?

00:07:21.000 My name is Maya.

00:07:22.000 I'm Jasmine.

00:07:23.000 Jasmine, nice to meet you.

00:07:24.000 I won't shake your hand and leave the mouse and stuff in there.

00:07:26.000 But okay, let me ask you, Maya, if You're just sitting there, like, you're just going about your day, and a man compliments you, like, says, like, oh, you have beautiful skin, or oh, I like your hair.

00:07:26.000 I don't want to mess up.

00:07:36.000 Does that make you uncomfortable at all?

00:07:38.000 No.

00:07:38.000 See?

00:07:39.000 Most white women answer yes now. 1.00

00:07:41.000 No, it wouldn't happen.

00:07:43.000 That's been my experience.

00:07:44.000 I will specifically hold back compliments with white women. 1.00

00:07:48.000 And I mean, I say because I'm not going to compliment a white or black dude, you know, unless it's his teardrop tattoo. 1.00

00:07:53.000 That's very good work.

00:07:54.000 You should let your artists know.

00:07:55.000 But yeah, I will hold back because you will get some.

00:07:58.000 It's a 50-50 shot.

00:07:59.000 They'll get mad.

00:08:01.000 And that's just, I think, comes from, you know, maybe more traditional views of kind of decorum and chivalry, where it seems like black women, even if they don't appreciate it, aren't offended by it.

00:08:10.000 Like, white men have to, they walk on eggshells all the time now, where that's a big reason we want to talk about it. 0.89

00:08:17.000 Like, let me, okay, let me ask you this.

00:08:20.000 And this is just, it's just a statistical reality.

00:08:22.000 Why do you think that 70% of suicides in the United States, 70% are white men?

00:08:31.000 Like consider because we often people think they have it really easy, but it's just they're twice as likely to just off themselves as black men. 0.98

00:08:37.000 It's crazy high.

00:08:39.000 Honestly, I believe sometimes stability is one of the biggest ones, honestly, because they have such a prestige way about wanting to be the upper class, I would say, put it that way.

00:08:52.000 Like when it's hard times, a lot of people, I won't just say white, but a lot of times black people come from hard times and white people kind of don't sometimes.

00:09:01.000 I won't say everybody, because you have a different life experience, but just from an overall world Spectrum?

00:09:10.000 Yeah.

00:09:11.000 It seems like when it gets a little harder, it's hard for them.

00:09:16.000 I think that's part of it.

00:09:18.000 I think that's part of it.

00:09:18.000 And the pressure of the family.

00:09:19.000 Because there's a lot of pressure dealing with the family.

00:09:22.000 Then it's the man in the house, you know what I'm saying?

00:09:24.000 Not just the man, but the provider, you know what I'm saying?

00:09:27.000 I think it's okay.

00:09:28.000 No, there's definitely... I think it's that...

00:09:31.000 And I think it's combined with the fact that, I mean, like, you know, we talked about sort of white, cause a lot of like modern feminism is spearheaded by sort of American, maybe Canadian white women, where it's check your privilege, check your privilege, shut up. 1.00

00:09:44.000 You're a white man. 0.95

00:09:45.000 There's no way you can have anything going on.

00:09:47.000 And they don't have the same community.

00:09:47.000 That's a struggle.

00:09:49.000 Like, I think, One thing that maybe black people take for granted compared to a lot of white people is like this doesn't this isn't a thing right for a lot of white men and so what happens is they feel ashamed and they feel isolated from those pressures and they just feel like there's no way out and well I better not complain because I'm a white man so you know I must have it easier than everyone and it's

00:10:08.000 And it's a stereotype with the pressure as well.

00:10:11.000 You know, you have so much pressure as well.

00:10:14.000 And it seemed like that's overlooked, but if you really look deep into it, you can tell that that's what it is.

00:10:19.000 Because even just from their upbringing, most of the time they're pressured to get the best education, get the best, you know, the highest paying job or making sure that your family is taken care of.

00:10:29.000 And like you see it in your own home as well.

00:10:32.000 A lot of people don't see that in their home.

00:10:34.000 So, It's a difference, you know?

00:10:37.000 Unless you make your mind different and want to do something different, honestly.

00:10:41.000 Do you mean you think it's like, because when you talk about the household, like if something goes wrong or they fall short, then it's automatically sort of placed upon the white father figure, you think?

00:10:51.000 That pressure where it's like, it's his fault?

00:10:53.000 Yeah.

00:10:55.000 I think that's a big part of it.

00:10:56.000 And at the same time- It's not just in movies.

00:10:58.000 But you're saying that's not the same in black households?

00:11:01.000 It's more even?

00:11:02.000 Most of the time, it's either a one household or the dad takes care of it.

00:11:06.000 If it is a dad in the house, he might take care of it, but you hear complaining.

00:11:10.000 You hear different things going on behind the scenes.

00:11:12.000 It's not always a happy home.

00:11:14.000 It's just like you see it, you identify it, and this is what it is.

00:11:19.000 Either it's a one-mother home, and she's doing everything herself. 0.97

00:11:23.000 And over there, the father in the home, he's always working.

00:11:26.000 Yeah.

00:11:26.000 And she is responsible for... she works for him.

00:11:30.000 That's the friend.

00:11:31.000 Yeah.

00:11:32.000 Yeah.

00:11:34.000 Yeah, it is a start.

00:11:35.000 Why do you think that is?

00:11:36.000 You said it's either like a one parent household.

00:11:39.000 Why do you think?

00:11:40.000 Because a lot of times people don't want to have responsibility.

00:11:42.000 They want to live their life.

00:11:43.000 They might start off acting like they want to be a part of it.

00:11:47.000 It's like the immaturity of they're not mature enough to really put their needs last instead of putting them first.

00:11:57.000 They can be a sadder person, a better father, a better mother, you know?

00:12:01.000 But if they put their needs first, everybody has a choice.

00:12:04.000 Because I could be a mom and be like, well, I want to take care of my kid.

00:12:08.000 That could be a choice.

00:12:09.000 But somebody else might be like, well, I'm a dad.

00:12:12.000 I don't want to take care of my kid.

00:12:13.000 And that's an easy thing.

00:12:14.000 But a mom can't lead that easily. 1.00

00:12:15.000 Because most of the time, she's the one who's taking care.

00:12:18.000 Do you think it's both, though?

00:12:19.000 Because this is one thing in talking with people like you will hear.

00:12:25.000 Obviously, a lot of black women talk about fathers who don't want to take responsibility. 1.00

00:12:29.000 But if you talk with black men, sometimes they'll say, well, no, wait, I do. 1.00

00:12:32.000 But it's a system where sometimes they don't want me around. 0.71

00:12:34.000 Right.

00:12:35.000 And it's a child support and alimony thing where I want to support my kids, but I don't want to support a lifestyle that isn't supporting the kids.

00:12:44.000 Do you think there's truth to both sides of that?

00:12:46.000 Some people take advantage, but the ones who really need it don't.

00:12:46.000 There is.

00:12:49.000 But there's always going to be a group of women who take advantage of that. 1.00

00:12:53.000 And that's the original story.

00:12:56.000 Well, see, that's a balanced view.

00:12:57.000 Yes.

00:12:58.000 Which, that's what we're talking about.

00:12:59.000 Like, in the white community, you don't generally see that. 1.00

00:13:01.000 If I were to ask a white woman, I'd be like, no, it's only the men who are deadbeats, who are losers. 1.00

00:13:06.000 And then if you would ask a lot of white men, they'd be like, yeah, I'm a piece of shit. 1.00

00:13:09.000 They get browbeat. 1.00

00:13:10.000 Yeah.

00:13:10.000 They just take it.

00:13:11.000 They take it.

00:13:12.000 They do.

00:13:16.000 They often do, and that's not healthy.

00:13:19.000 I know.

00:13:20.000 You know, I can't put myself in that man's shoes, but it is still like, the weight is really on here with white people. 0.98

00:13:29.000 In a black community, the weight is really on the mother.

00:13:32.000 Yeah.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, I mean, think of how many songs, right, come out of it.

00:13:35.000 I mean, Tupac was always rapping about his mom.

00:13:37.000 I don't really think, I can't think, are there any white guy songs about mama? 0.96

00:13:43.000 I'm sorry, Mama, from Eminem, but that's about cleaning his closet, like spring cleaning and s***. 0.98

00:13:47.000 Mama, I'm coming home. 0.92

00:13:49.000 Right.

00:13:49.000 Mama, I'm coming home.

00:13:50.000 That's Ozzy Osbourne, but that doesn't have the same meaning.

00:13:52.000 I mean, if you look at... Yeah. 0.96

00:13:55.000 That's just silly. 0.98

00:13:56.000 Silly stuff. 0.99

00:13:57.000 No, that's a good point.

00:13:58.000 Yeah, it's kind of more matri... Well, what's funny about that, though, too, is, like you said, it's kind of like more matriarchal, like centered around the mom, but I would also say that generally speaking, both men and women are more comfortable with the idea of traditional gender roles.

00:14:17.000 They expect their men to be stronger.

00:14:19.000 Which one?

00:14:19.000 Who?

00:14:20.000 Black women. 1.00

00:14:21.000 They want a stronger man, whereas often in the white community it's kind of like... Stability. 0.80

00:14:25.000 And being more sensitive.

00:14:26.000 And sensitive.

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:27.000 And you're right.

00:14:28.000 Stability and sensitivity.

00:14:29.000 Everybody wants stability, but that, I mean, even look at all the athletes.

00:14:34.000 They're always, they're not with their culture. 1.00

00:14:36.000 They go for another culture, right? 0.99

00:14:38.000 Because they grew up wanting stability.

00:14:38.000 Yeah.

00:14:41.000 They have nothing in common.

00:14:43.000 Right.

00:14:44.000 They don't speak the same language.

00:14:45.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:14:47.000 But Yeah, and some athletes just beat the s*** out of their 0.64

00:14:50.000 girlfriend in an elevator. 0.99

00:14:51.000 Because that's because they're weak too. Whoever went for the weak man went for the weak woman too.

00:14:55.000 Because none of them strong enough to keep it up right here.

00:14:58.000 They're both right here no matter how much money you have. Do you think that's something that's

00:15:02.000 lacking just in general? Like the idea of, hey, being a strong... because it doesn't mean

00:15:08.000 that it's... my view is it's sexism to say like a strong male figure, like masculine role and a

00:15:13.000 strong mother female role, but you complement each other. 1.00

00:15:16.000 And now it just, you know, that's a big struggle right now where a lot of the roles just seem completely blended, where it's not a team, a partnership.

00:15:23.000 Do you think it's a little more clear in the – even, you know, start discounting It's clear, honestly.

00:15:28.000 I came from a mother and a father, a two-parent home, but I still feel like my mom did the work.

00:15:32.000 as far as like, okay, you're a man, I'm a woman, and we're okay with that?

00:15:35.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:36.000 It's clear, honestly.

00:15:37.000 I came from a mother and a father, a two parent home, but I still feel like my mom did the work.

00:15:43.000 My dad did provide, but he was more like the disciplinary and she was more like the home caretaker

00:15:53.000 and the mother and the, you know, everything.

00:15:55.000 Well, that term is relative, because, you know, if you had two black parents, they were both more disciplinary than a lot of white parents in 2023.

00:16:03.000 I mean, I go to the mall, I see black mothers with their kids, and I'm like, can you stop? 0.99

00:16:07.000 They have them on leashes and s***. 1.00

00:16:09.000 And black moms are like, you better stop. 1.00

00:16:12.000 The kid knows, and they get right in line. 0.98

00:16:13.000 There's not a lot of discipline in the white community right now with kids.

00:16:17.000 Okay, I see that eye roll, right?

00:16:20.000 So, you see that, right?

00:16:22.000 And do you think that it's kind of lacking?

00:16:25.000 It's a good thing to have more discipline with kids, more traditional discipline?

00:16:29.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:16:31.000 I remember when I was in school, like, you got to get paddled.

00:16:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:16:36.000 So I mean, it wasn't just the parents, it was actually, you know, just any adult figure in your life.

00:16:41.000 And it started with the teachers because you're at school all day long.

00:16:44.000 Now, I mean, you look at a kid wrong, and they're gonna call the police on you.

00:16:49.000 So it's just, I don't, I don't know where, I don't know where that started to fall by the wayside as far as far as The disciplinary portion within the home and within the school system.

00:17:03.000 I mean, it's like, I feel like it started there.

00:17:06.000 And then gradually, the kids kind of figured out, oh, well, we can get away with this at school.

00:17:10.000 Maybe we can get away with this with our parents, too.

00:17:12.000 So, that first kid that called the cops on their parents, and then it just kind of went the other way from there.

00:17:20.000 I mean, what happened to parents actually being able to, I mean, I'm not saying physically abuse them, but I mean.

00:17:26.000 Spank them? 0.99

00:17:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:17:27.000 Keep them in line.

00:17:28.000 Yeah.

00:17:28.000 Go outside.

00:17:29.000 Pull that switch off the tree.

00:17:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:31.000 Bring it back here cause I'm going to beat your ass. 1.00

00:17:33.000 Cause you know what you did. 1.00

00:17:34.000 We need so much of that.

00:17:38.000 It would, I think there would be so fewer problems just in the world in general if Kids were disciplined.

00:17:45.000 Yeah.

00:17:46.000 Seriously.

00:17:46.000 I remember because, you know, I was, I was a little **** and also was, you know, raised in a very white area of Canada.

00:17:55.000 And they told us, they had the whole conversation, you know, no, no one's ever allowed to touch you or spank you.

00:17:59.000 And so they said, you call, you know, you call CPS.

00:18:02.000 And one time I threatened my dad.

00:18:03.000 I was like, I'm going to call, I'm going to call Child Protective Services.

00:18:06.000 And he just looked at me and said, no, you're not.

00:18:09.000 No, you're not.

00:18:10.000 And he made me pick my wooden spoon.

00:18:14.000 But he was, I'll tell you this, what I do appreciate about my dad was he was very, I think the balance is, you know, I have two-year-old twins, and so we have to kind of figure it, and they're at the age where they're so sensitive that, like, you know, just even, like, putting them in a chair in a timeout, it works, you know what I mean?

00:18:29.000 But I know at some point, if they're like me, that's not going to work.

00:18:31.000 Certainly, if my son is like me, like, I would get a timeout when I'm going to my room and playing Super Nintendo.

00:18:38.000 Didn't do anything.

00:18:39.000 Right.

00:18:39.000 But the balance was, I know that with my dad, he would make me pick my wooden spoon and I'd get spanked, like depending on the offense, you know, um, one spank or like three spanks, you know, and I'd have to do it and kind of take it like him.

00:18:53.000 And then after that, though, it was over.

00:18:56.000 And my dad and I were really close.

00:18:57.000 We're really, we're still like best friends to this day, but I still respect him.

00:19:00.000 I feared him, but that's why we were close.

00:19:02.000 My mom, occasionally, like I could tell she was mad.

00:19:06.000 Like, a little part of me was like, I think she's enjoying this.

00:19:10.000 And that, I think, bothered me more.

00:19:12.000 Whereas I knew my dad didn't like it.

00:19:14.000 Like, my dad didn't want to.

00:19:14.000 It's like, you can't do this.

00:19:16.000 You know, you just burn down half the shed.

00:19:18.000 I have to discipline you.

00:19:19.000 Whereas my mom would be like, don't talk back. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Well, she's French-Canadian. 1.00

00:19:22.000 She's like, don't talk back to your mother! 0.93

00:19:24.000 And I'm like, oh, this is going to sting.

00:19:26.000 But not that either of them ever, like, crossed a line.

00:19:29.000 But yeah, I think as long as it's not done in a way that's, like, an emotional thing.

00:19:33.000 It's just, this is a consequence thing.

00:19:36.000 And explain exactly why you're doing it.

00:19:38.000 You know, I love you, but you've done this.

00:19:41.000 This is the consequence to what you have done.

00:19:44.000 But just let them know, I still love you, but I gotta do what I gotta do. 0.99

00:19:49.000 Do black parents do soap in the mouth? 1.00

00:19:52.000 Do they do that? 0.99

00:19:53.000 Does she do it? 0.97

00:19:55.000 Yeah, that would be like if you, you know, dirty words, but they did it with my brother one time because he was my older brother, and he convinced me that I was adopted.

00:20:01.000 Not everybody does that.

00:20:03.000 My brother did that, my little sister, everybody crying.

00:20:05.000 No, he like convinced me I was adopted.

00:20:07.000 You really did believe that?

00:20:08.000 And they go like find my parents, like he helped pack my bag, you know?

00:20:11.000 That's what my brother used to say.

00:20:13.000 And my dad already grabbed a bar of soap.

00:20:15.000 He was like, now what you just did is the worst thing you can possibly do to your little brother.

00:20:20.000 That's worse.

00:20:20.000 That's, that's an awful thing to do.

00:20:22.000 And so I'm going to wash your mouth out. 0.99

00:20:24.000 So you never speak these kinds of things again.

00:20:28.000 And, uh, he never did it again.

00:20:30.000 At least not when they found out, you know?

00:20:32.000 But yeah, and then it definitely is, I would agree with you on that.

00:20:36.000 And it's just like, if I were to say this, like you were just talking about, say this on campus with, you know, predominantly upper or upper middle class, like white people, particularly women, they'd be, this right here would horrify them.

00:20:48.000 I can't believe that's abuse.

00:20:50.000 It's like, there's a difference between, if we can all agree that beating kids is bad, disciplining kids is necessary.

00:20:55.000 Exactly.

00:20:57.000 We can't even have these conversations.

00:20:58.000 This is kind of goes back to the idea of how isolated, sorry.

00:21:03.000 When I leave here with a perm, this isn't on, is it?

00:21:05.000 No.

00:21:06.000 I'm gonna leave looking like House Party.

00:21:08.000 But we can't even have these conversations a lot of the time, like in the white community, just because it's like, disagreement is just, boom, cut off. 0.87

00:21:16.000 We're very segmented.

00:21:18.000 I don't understand what's wrong with having an open conversation.

00:21:21.000 I mean, and you can agree to disagree, but just have the conversation.

00:21:25.000 People will be uncomfortable with the conversation.

00:21:28.000 Yeah.

00:21:28.000 People don't like real conversations.

00:21:30.000 They want to hear something that's going to make everybody feel better.

00:21:34.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 That's not going to offend anyone.

00:21:36.000 That's not going to make anybody ruffle any feathers.

00:21:38.000 Anybody's going to be okay.

00:21:39.000 We don't have to talk about that.

00:21:41.000 And that is not life.

00:21:43.000 It never changes if you don't talk about it.

00:21:45.000 Do you think some of that extends though to like to for example from we're talking about like kind of between white people but like from the black community to the white community a little bit because white men have been browbeaten as everything is racist for so long that they're just afraid to say anything.

00:22:02.000 I mean, do you think that there's some of that, like, at what point do you think, for example, if, like, I'm, you know, a comedian.

00:22:07.000 And so one of my good friends, Nick DiPaolo, he's like one of the best ever.

00:22:12.000 He did a show with a guy, Patrice O'Neill, who died too young.

00:22:15.000 He was kind of poised to become like a Dave Chappelle.

00:22:17.000 And all they did was just, for example, racist jokes. 0.99

00:22:20.000 That was their show, you know, it was everything like you dirty guinea from and he was, you know, and then, of course, all the racist shit you could say towards a giant 350 pound black guy, but they were really good friends. 0.98

00:22:29.000 When do you think it crosses over Or is it like in the realm of comedy? 0.96

00:22:33.000 Because that's a big conversation.

00:22:34.000 I mean, you see it even happening with Dave Chappelle from the LGBTQAIP side, but that's kind of something we've seen from white black for a long time, where there's this policing of entertainment and of comedy. 0.81

00:22:47.000 Where do you think that kind of ties into an open dialogue?

00:22:54.000 I'm not even, honestly, I'm not even really sure.

00:22:56.000 I don't listen to a lot of I don't really listen to a lot of comedians, but I always hear the fallout.

00:23:03.000 I hear the afterwards.

00:23:04.000 So that's their form of expression.

00:23:09.000 So I feel like Like, if you know a comedian and you know how his jokes go, it's up to you whether to sit down and listen to him or not.

00:23:19.000 Yeah.

00:23:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:20.000 Because somebody can get offended, but you know what he might talk about, or what she might talk about.

00:23:25.000 So if you go there and you get offended, you know what I'm talking about.

00:23:28.000 Yeah.

00:23:28.000 They're in there, and they're human, just like, that's just their profession.

00:23:31.000 It's just there to laugh.

00:23:32.000 So if you're not there to laugh, you shouldn't be there.

00:23:35.000 Yeah.

00:23:36.000 What do you think about, like, people saying, like, that was a racist joke, so this guy needs to be banned?

00:23:40.000 No.

00:23:40.000 No, that's just... You shouldn't have come to the show.

00:23:43.000 And you have to ban, like... Everybody just signs a waiver when they get their ticket.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:47.000 Like, this might be some offensive language, you know?

00:23:50.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:23:51.000 And you have to ban, like, 90% of black comedians, let's be honest. 0.87

00:23:54.000 But it will make everybody make their own decision whether they want to show up or not.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, no.

00:23:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:24:00.000 But that's not what we're really seeing.

00:24:01.000 Like the problem is now they're trying to say, Oh, hon, I don't like what this person said.

00:24:05.000 So no one should be able to go and see them.

00:24:07.000 Well, yeah, that's like Dave Chappelle, you know, our venues.

00:24:09.000 I mean, I got, um, you know, I got in trouble.

00:24:12.000 It's just, they're like, Oh, you can't cause I do impressions.

00:24:14.000 And I do impressions of black people, celebrities.

00:24:18.000 At what point does that become appropriation?

00:24:19.000 Like, so it's okay to do an impression of Donald Trump, but not Kat Williams.

00:24:27.000 Some people try and say now that doing an impression of a black person is like blackface.

00:24:31.000 I was just about to say that is totally not the same thing.

00:24:34.000 If you were white people for years, like, wouldn't it be funny? 0.95

00:24:38.000 Yeah, oh yeah, every time every black comedian's white guy voice is like this and we're like, 0.88

00:24:41.000 you don't sound like that, but it's fine. 0.94

00:24:43.000 So what the heck, no?

00:24:44.000 Jesus, oh God.

00:24:46.000 So that doesn't, like, that doesn't offend you?

00:24:52.000 Not at all.

00:24:52.000 Then why do you think that's such a big deal in the media?

00:24:54.000 Because this is why we do, like, this... Because they always want chaos.

00:25:00.000 That's what they want.

00:25:02.000 They want to control the people on what they say.

00:25:04.000 They want to have the power.

00:25:05.000 So it's, for me, it's all about power, because they're behind the CM Sam jokes, those racist jokes.

00:25:10.000 You know they are.

00:25:11.000 They're not going to sit here and say, oh, yeah, you know, you're doing it, we're doing it too.

00:25:16.000 Right.

00:25:16.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 No, they're gonna say, you know what, you need to switch it away, we don't like it.

00:25:20.000 And then they go back in the back room and talk about what you just said and lie. 0.89

00:25:23.000 Yeah, I feel like, and this is my ignorant white opinion if I were listening to the media, 0.60

00:25:28.000 I feel like there's been no group of people, when it dawned on me, I was watching CNN and MSNBC,

00:25:36.000 I said, there's never been a group of people who are so overrepresented in media

00:25:40.000 than black Americans today without being represented at all.

00:25:42.000 In the sense that, if you were to look at the percentage, it's like, you know, 35% of CNN, they're black, but it's Joy Reid and it's Van Jones.

00:25:51.000 And I'm sitting there because, again, I've been in green rooms and stuff with comics. 0.99

00:25:54.000 I'm like, the shit they're saying that this is what the black community is bothered. 0.99

00:25:58.000 That's not at all what I hear. 1.00

00:26:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:02.000 They want it to be in control.

00:26:04.000 It's not true.

00:26:05.000 I mean, it's just like how they say people cheated with the votes.

00:26:09.000 Even if somebody won, whatever they won, it's going to happen.

00:26:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:12.000 So it's not even about what even if people say, could you see the crowd coming?

00:26:16.000 People are there to hear you laugh.

00:26:18.000 So for them to say something other, that's almost like the sky is green, but it's really blue.

00:26:25.000 They just want to start- Well, they want to divide people, for sure.

00:26:29.000 Divide, exactly.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, they absolutely do.

00:26:34.000 There's no clear example.

00:26:35.000 Do you know Van Jones?

00:26:37.000 See, this is a perfect example.

00:26:39.000 All liberal white people know Van Jones.

00:26:40.000 They're like, oh my god, Van Jones, he's such a great voice for the black community.

00:26:43.000 And then, every time I ask a black person, they're like, who? 1.00

00:26:45.000 Van Jones?

00:26:47.000 And he was on CNN, this was in the last 24 hours, there was a Republican debate, and this guy Vivek Rama, he's an Indian-American guy.

00:26:56.000 And I'm sitting there like, oh, this is the kind of thing that he said that would actually black people would be like, that's funny. 0.99

00:27:02.000 So you know Chris Christie, big fat guy?

00:27:04.000 Vivek, on the stage, he said, yeah, he said, no one's voting for you.

00:27:08.000 He said, so why don't you just walk off the stage, go have a good meal, and settle down.

00:27:13.000 I was like, yeah, see, exactly.

00:27:15.000 And Dan Jones, he's like, I was so offended by this, I'm literally shaking.

00:27:20.000 I'm like, I can't imagine a black, can you imagine a black guy saying that here?

00:27:24.000 Not at all. 0.98

00:27:24.000 Like, you were shaking that someone told a fat joke to another dude? 0.98

00:27:29.000 God, yeah, no, not at all.

00:27:31.000 We end up probably looking at them crazy, like, really?

00:27:34.000 Yeah!

00:27:34.000 Okay.

00:27:36.000 I think it's trending right now. 0.95

00:27:37.000 Right now, Van Jones is like, this is ridiculous. 0.93

00:27:39.000 He's like, this is, I was shaking, I was so offended. 1.00

00:27:41.000 Like, I can't tell you, like, comics, if you go into a green room, like, you put on a few pounds, you have a black man, like, you fat mother******, like, that's a, you're like, that's right away! 1.00

00:27:49.000 Like, that was, I think that's why there's so many good black comedians, too. 0.97

00:27:52.000 Like, when people talk about, we need to, you know, like, affirmative action, There's one place you don't need it. 0.72

00:27:59.000 First off, I think that that's racist, saying we need X amount of black people, we need X amount of women, X amount of white people.

00:28:04.000 But if you look at like the top 10 list of comedians of all time, top five, everyone's going to agree on Richard Pryor's, the Eddie Murphy's, the Dave Chappelle's, right?

00:28:14.000 Like there's a huge percentage of black people.

00:28:16.000 Now, no one said we need this amount of black comedians. 0.96

00:28:19.000 I think a big part of it comes from this, a culture of talking, of, you know, busting balls, like, for sure, like, they're okay making fun of each other.

00:28:29.000 And that's one thing to me that I just said, like, well, when we talk about, like, how everyone's underrepresented, like, well, okay, we're talking about the NBA, we're talking about the NFL, what about comedians?

00:28:36.000 Like, that's a perfect meritocracy.

00:28:38.000 Black people tend to be funnier than white people, just because white people, like, I'm basically saying Ben Jones is white. 0.94

00:28:46.000 When he says, I'm shaking, I'm so offended, I'm like, that sounds like something my liberal uncle would say, like white guilt uncle. 0.95

00:28:51.000 That does not sound like anything any of my black guy friends would ever say. 0.76

00:28:55.000 Well, they told him that he had biceps and triceps and y'all can see he got bust up.

00:28:59.000 He wouldn't be offended.

00:29:00.000 He was just offended.

00:29:02.000 So that's what made him act like that.

00:29:04.000 That was his defense mechanism, to be the victim.

00:29:07.000 There you go.

00:29:07.000 Do you think that's a big thing?

00:29:08.000 The race to be a victim? 0.76

00:29:10.000 Like, the victim mentality?

00:29:11.000 It's trending right now.

00:29:12.000 Look at everybody who's coming forward with every allegation about all the feminist people and different things that's going on.

00:29:18.000 Everybody wants to be known as the victim, like, for what it was made.

00:29:22.000 But you can make all the decisions you make when you live.

00:29:26.000 You know what?

00:29:27.000 It's interesting that you bring that up.

00:29:28.000 I was just thinking about this.

00:29:29.000 I think you're talking about, like, the Me Too stuff, some of that, right?

00:29:32.000 We can all agree, it's like, beating kids is bad. 0.81

00:29:34.000 Rape is bad. 0.99

00:29:35.000 Right.

00:29:36.000 I think just to be clear, I'm right.

00:29:38.000 Like, it's a bad thing.

00:29:39.000 We all agree. 0.96

00:29:40.000 But considering that, okay, like, okay, it doesn't take a genius, like, listen to hip hop, or like, you know, you watch BET, like, like, sex sells in the black community, of course, right? 0.99

00:29:51.000 Like, white people didn't invent twerking. 0.87

00:29:54.000 But There are far fewer accusations that you see from, like, famous black women against famous black men.

00:30:02.000 I mean, you can go back, like, to Mike Tyson, but it was just this huge rush of white women. 1.00

00:30:08.000 And then there were some that were horrible, like Weinstein. 1.00

00:30:11.000 That guy deserves to die in prison. 0.99

00:30:13.000 But then there was, like, Aziz... He had a bad date. 1.00

00:30:16.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:30:17.000 Like, that's a big thing they've taught in college, that if you regret sex afterwards, it's f***ed, even if you consented. 0.86

00:30:23.000 Do you think that that's also, like, a problem now?

00:30:25.000 Because I'll tell you this, men are afraid to date.

00:30:29.000 Because, like, they don't want to be alone with a woman. 0.99

00:30:33.000 But particularly white women. 1.00

00:30:35.000 Do you think that there's... Particularly?

00:30:37.000 Yes.

00:30:38.000 Yes, there is.

00:30:38.000 Do you think so?

00:30:40.000 What?

00:30:40.000 There's particularly white women?

00:30:41.000 Yes.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:42.000 I don't, I've never heard of a black... It's all white women.

00:30:47.000 Mostly.

00:30:47.000 I'm sure there's like, I'm sure there's... Except for R. Kelly?

00:30:50.000 Well, he was p***ing on people. 0.94

00:30:52.000 I mean, that's entirely different. 0.87

00:30:54.000 Can I tell you this?

00:30:56.000 I don't even understand how that works.

00:30:59.000 Not to get dirty.

00:31:00.000 Oh my...

00:31:01.000 No, I don't know.

00:31:02.000 She goes, I don't know.

00:31:03.000 Like, oh, let me tell you.

00:31:05.000 No, I remember when I first heard about that, I was like, okay, because look, like when a guy is aroused, there's a, there's hydraulics at play.

00:31:11.000 It's, you can't pee.

00:31:13.000 Exactly.

00:31:14.000 How do you, how do you, you have to get yourself soft to do it, which is what turns you on, right?

00:31:19.000 That's terrible.

00:31:20.000 Yeah.

00:31:21.000 Okay.

00:31:21.000 But it doesn't make any sense.

00:31:24.000 Anyway, but it is.

00:31:27.000 So, so you think, Did they though with R. Kelly?

00:31:30.000 Because it was so gross I don't remember all of it.

00:31:32.000 Did they consent to it?

00:31:34.000 All the girls? 0.98

00:31:35.000 I don't think all of it did.

00:31:39.000 I think some, but I just don't remember the...

00:31:42.000 Yeah.

00:31:42.000 Yeah, the number.

00:31:43.000 If he was, like, surprise p***y on someone's face, that's bad. 0.99

00:31:46.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:31:47.000 Like, if she just, like, walked out of the bathroom and he's like, ah!

00:31:51.000 You know.

00:31:52.000 That's a problem.

00:31:54.000 But if they consented, it doesn't matter how weird it is.

00:31:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:57.000 Like, their stuff, it's like, hey, that's not my thing.

00:31:59.000 Right.

00:32:00.000 That's how I feel.

00:32:01.000 Yeah.

00:32:02.000 Because, like, you have said it too, hasn't it?

00:32:04.000 And then now he's in trouble, you know?

00:32:06.000 Well, he might deserve it.

00:32:08.000 He might.

00:32:09.000 But...

00:32:10.000 I'm going to move with C closer because I can't, now it sounds like we're on the Titanic with this thing going.

00:32:15.000 Um, there was, yeah, I'm trying, well, Bill Cosby.

00:32:18.000 Do you think Bill Cosby did it?

00:32:21.000 That's interesting.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, he does a pudding. 0.87

00:32:30.000 What he really liked was ****. 0.86

00:32:32.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:32:33.000 I do think that, I think that some of those were definitely not consensual.

00:32:37.000 Yeah, it's like, I didn't hear about it.

00:32:39.000 I mean, I heard that he did stuff, but I didn't hear that he said, I don't like listening to that stuff.

00:32:44.000 But he was just like America's darling.

00:32:46.000 Everybody wanted him, like, he was like the crossover.

00:32:49.000 Everybody loved Bill Cosby, so he could do no wrong.

00:32:52.000 So I think that's just why he got away.

00:32:54.000 Well, you can't do nothing anyway.

00:32:56.000 Well, and I say he got away with it for so long.

00:32:59.000 And then somebody, you know, they finally decided to join together and step up, speak out, or whatever.

00:33:05.000 But you see how long it took to actually convict the guy.

00:33:08.000 Or, I don't even know, did they convict him?

00:33:12.000 No, he's out of prison now.

00:33:13.000 Yeah, so it's like... Well, here's the thing is, I don't... I don't think he did.

00:33:19.000 He did go to jail, but then there was like an appeal, it was a whole thing.

00:33:22.000 His thing got overturned.

00:33:23.000 Yeah, it got overturned.

00:33:24.000 Yeah.

00:33:25.000 I mean, I think that maybe it's tough to know, right?

00:33:27.000 But what is interesting to me is if you were to say this to any group of white people, they'd all be like, oh, absolutely, he did it. 0.65

00:33:34.000 Like, of course he did it.

00:33:36.000 I think they were just gunning for him because he, again, because he could do no wrong.

00:33:39.000 He was just this overly sophisticated, powerful black man who did no wrong.

00:33:47.000 Just had so many white friends who were, I mean, that was just, and you had white friends, and awful white friends, oh yeah, you were something, you found something. 0.75

00:33:57.000 So then, when they had that opportunity to knock him down, oh yeah, he did it, he did it, so.

00:34:03.000 Don't you think, though, too, like, there's a statute of limitations for a reason?

00:34:06.000 Like, you can't, if it happened, you can't come out 40 years later.

00:34:10.000 Right?

00:34:10.000 That's... I mean, that's a problem.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, it is.

00:34:14.000 I mean... Because you can't prove that if it's false, you can't prove it's false, you can't prove it's true.

00:34:19.000 Now it's just the media.

00:34:20.000 Yeah.

00:34:21.000 It's just he said, she said it to me.

00:34:24.000 And your mind has changed.

00:34:28.000 Everything has changed.

00:34:28.000 So who are you to say if you can remember exactly unless you went to your diary and wrote down, you know, and you can go back and... Yeah.

00:34:35.000 Well, that's what happened with Brett Kavanaugh was a Supreme Court Justice.

00:34:40.000 And of course everyone, this is the one thing I was like, I'm conservative, like Christian conservative, so people will say like, oh you're racist no matter what if you vote Republican with white people, and like that's why they'll just look at Justice Kavanaugh.

00:34:50.000 I was like, first they tried to say he was racist, then they tried to say that he, um, he r*****, so like that's how they tried to block him from becoming a Supreme Court Justice.

00:34:58.000 And first off, this woman who made it up, Christine Blasey Ford, she, um, her story that she gave to the Washington Post didn't match up with her story to the cops.

00:35:07.000 The story of the cops didn't match up with the story of the friends.

00:35:09.000 And the house that she claimed, uh, where she was f***ed, didn't exist.

00:35:13.000 And the other people said that never happened.

00:35:15.000 And then, Kavanaugh had diaries.

00:35:18.000 And they looked at his journals, and his journals matched up like all the other journals, where it's like, okay, you know, June 24th, he said he was going here, and they could see it from a yearbook, or from like his athletic schedule, where, you know, he didn't write, going to gang or f*** someone in his journal, he wrote the opposite.

00:35:32.000 And they go, you know what, it seems like this checks out, but that was the attack they were going to use politically, And some people still believe it.

00:35:38.000 Some people still believe it just because he was accused of it.

00:35:41.000 I mean, sometimes that's all it takes.

00:35:43.000 It's just to put that out there, just to, uh, you know, carnage the name.

00:35:46.000 Because once it's out there, it's kind of done deal.

00:35:49.000 It's sad.

00:35:50.000 I think this also goes back to the idea of, you know, like we talked about, like, white suicide. 0.65

00:35:53.000 Because you said, like, okay, Bill Cosby, and I think you probably did some of it, but I think that for sure, like, white people in general are more likely to jump on board.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, guilty.

00:36:04.000 Do you think many black people in general, whether it's for a black or white purpose, are initially more skeptical, right?

00:36:10.000 Let's wait.

00:36:12.000 If Johnny Depp was black, he wouldn't have had his life ruined until we all found out about Amber Heard. 0.99

00:36:18.000 She f***ing is bad. 1.00

00:36:18.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:36:19.000 I think a lot of people would be like, I don't know, she sounds crazy. 0.83

00:36:22.000 Right?

00:36:22.000 There's two sides to this.

00:36:24.000 Absolutely.

00:36:24.000 But that guy lost everything.

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:26.000 Right?

00:36:26.000 Cause everyone, she just said, Oh, he did this.

00:36:29.000 There was no proof.

00:36:30.000 Right.

00:36:30.000 And he lost his Disney contracts, everything until we got to court.

00:36:33.000 We're like, Oh my God, this one was a monster.

00:36:34.000 Yeah.

00:36:37.000 That was a good thing though. 1.00

00:36:38.000 And that just showed that women can be cruel and just as ignorant as anybody else. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Men. 0.99

00:36:44.000 So yeah, just to, so I was actually very happy. 0.99

00:36:47.000 I'm like, wow, she'd said all that.

00:36:50.000 And that's another problem.

00:36:52.000 That I feel like men are hesitant because women lie so easily about whatever. 1.00

00:36:58.000 And they believe it.

00:36:58.000 Yeah.

00:37:00.000 You know, and everybody, oh, because she's the weak, you know, one and he's the, you know, the more dominant one.

00:37:00.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 That's not true at all.

00:37:07.000 That's very stereotypical.

00:37:09.000 So yes, I was very happy.

00:37:11.000 I also think that it's funny to say, but like black people as a community tend to be more forgiving.

00:37:18.000 Then white people in a lot of ways, like, like, in other words, okay, Johnny Depp, you have a certain alcohol problem. 0.89

00:37:23.000 I mean, like, so, okay, you can be a drunken weirdo and not be a domestic abuser. 0.96

00:37:27.000 You know what I mean? 0.59

00:37:29.000 And I think people are like, oh, listen to this tape where he's, he's drunk and he's like cussing at her.

00:37:33.000 He must be guilty.

00:37:34.000 Well, now we know that she threw a bottle at his head before that and broke his finger.

00:37:39.000 But everyone was just so quick, like, oh, he's an alcoholic, so he must be bad.

00:37:42.000 Whereas I feel like, often, like, well, hold on a second, two things can be true, no one's perfect, so let's wait.

00:37:49.000 And I think that maybe that stems from, obviously, like, when we were a definitively more racist country, the kind of idea of sort of, it's like a public lynching, with your reputation now, you know what I mean?

00:37:58.000 They kill your name. 0.75

00:38:00.000 And I wonder if it's just black people like, nah, I've seen this before. 1.00

00:38:03.000 I'm not going to go along with it until I get a little more information. 0.87

00:38:06.000 Yes, because I feel like black people, honestly, they have to be convinced. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Yeah.

00:38:10.000 Do you get what I'm saying?

00:38:11.000 No, I think, yeah.

00:38:12.000 That's why they follow trends.

00:38:13.000 They have to see it first.

00:38:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:15.000 Then they get everybody, see everybody doing it.

00:38:17.000 Then it's like, okay, I'm going to do it.

00:38:18.000 Yeah.

00:38:19.000 So the same way with decisions or anything like that, you know, they want to hear the whole story because most of the time you are so right because they want to, they're so in tune.

00:38:27.000 They want to hear the whole story because they want to know what happened.

00:38:29.000 A lot of times people will just off the bat, just from what they heard.

00:38:29.000 Right.

00:38:33.000 You're right.

00:38:33.000 Yeah.

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:34.000 They'll go, they'll go right to, Oh, you must be an animal.

00:38:34.000 Yes.

00:38:38.000 I mean, you think of, uh, like you think of, I mean, I'm, I think he did it, but like, okay, I'm in them.

00:38:44.000 I mean, I think, especially after he wrote the book, if I did it.

00:38:49.000 But I think that it stems from, and some of it was just like, hey, we're skeptical because it could just be this is a famous black man where, you know, you could just be trying to effectively, I use the term lynch him, meaning like destroy his reputation.

00:39:02.000 And that's, you know, that's a lot of scenarios where I think there probably is, today, more value in that because people are so quick to just, you know, use the term cancel.

00:39:09.000 Do you think, do you guys, is that something that you think is a big fear?

00:39:14.000 Like, the black community? 0.84

00:39:15.000 Because I tell you, like, white people are terrified of being accused or canceled.

00:39:22.000 I mean, that's a benefit, right? 0.90

00:39:23.000 To a black person. 0.99

00:39:25.000 You get, you have more leeway. 0.77

00:39:28.000 Not much, but yes.

00:39:31.000 Definitely more like in the black community. 0.99

00:39:32.000 I was just listening, I was just listening to some, like, here, I was just listening to, uh, like, Prior, and even like, and I'm sitting like, oh my god, you just switched this to, from white to black, like, you're immediately done.

00:39:41.000 Immediately!

00:39:42.000 And it's funny!

00:39:43.000 Yes.

00:39:44.000 It's funny, but yeah, that's a big thing now.

00:39:47.000 People are afraid to talk in the white community.

00:39:49.000 It goes back to dividing.

00:39:51.000 What do you think, like, what do you think is the, what do you think is the best way forward?

00:39:55.000 Because, I will tell you this, I grew up, and this is kind of why we started doing this, I grew up in Canada, and I was born in Detroit, but raised in Canada.

00:40:05.000 And I feel like, I don't just feel, but statistically I grew up in what would be considered a post-racial America, North America, because I was in Canada.

00:40:14.000 But like the biggest shows were Fresh Prince, Family Matters, the biggest stars at that point were, I mean the biggest film stars were Will Smith, Genzo Washington, obviously the Cosbys.

00:40:25.000 And now, it's almost like, here's black entertainment, On this channel.

00:40:31.000 And here's Why Entertainment.

00:40:34.000 Now it seems like there's more of a racial divide than there was when I grew up.

00:40:37.000 And I don't mean as far as policy, as far as Jim Crow laws.

00:40:41.000 I mean as far as, I think people have been told that there's racism so much that people are actually just more afraid to reach across the aisle.

00:40:50.000 Do you think that's true?

00:40:52.000 That's my feeling from what happened.

00:40:54.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

00:40:55.000 Yeah.

00:40:56.000 I can't answer because I don't know.

00:40:58.000 I'm not going to creep out on my students.

00:41:00.000 I don't know the way to look at it, but they'll get it from me.

00:41:04.000 You sound like there's some TV networks that have different shows for black people.

00:41:09.000 What I'm just saying is like when I grew up it wasn't like I again we didn't have that many black kids at my school where I grew up but we had a lot of and most of them were Haitian in Quebec because it's a you know Quebec is a French province and it's a French colonies with a lot of immigration but we had a lot of Asians and a lot of That's because you're from the North. 0.95

00:41:25.000 Arabic people and we didn't even think of it growing up but we just hung out

00:41:29.000 you know it wasn't really like a big deal and now when you have classes

00:41:33.000 people are being taught like white kids you check your privilege and you're 0.86

00:41:36.000 being taught about racism so much like we were taught about slavery we were

00:41:40.000 taught that was wrong we were taught about the civil war I don't think they

00:41:48.000 ever taught people that slavery was good No, not the slavery.

00:41:51.000 I'm talking about the privilege.

00:41:52.000 As far as the mindset of different things, there is a difference between up north and south.

00:41:58.000 But do you think though, do you think that's a good thing though, to be instilling in children, like checking your privilege and making... That's the only good thing.

00:42:07.000 Because I think you're creating racists when you do that.

00:42:08.000 You are.

00:42:09.000 But there are ways to teach and not to make... But it kind of stems from the Golden Wills, the privileges, and then it goes to the society.

00:42:23.000 No, it's part of curriculum.

00:42:24.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:42:25.000 Oh, go ahead.

00:42:25.000 Is it part of curriculum?

00:42:26.000 Well, I don't know.

00:42:27.000 I feel like... 0.91

00:42:28.000 Like, as far as teaching the slavery, I mean, or teaching about history and whatnot, I mean, you want to teach people about things so they don't repeat it, but you don't have to browbeat the kids, like, I mean, because you're white, you know, you're an evil person, right? 0.89

00:42:42.000 You just want them to know what happened.

00:42:44.000 This is what happened, and we don't want that to repeat, but I don't really feel like Well, kids are innocent.

00:42:52.000 Like you said, when you were growing up, you know, you play with whomever and whatever.

00:42:54.000 It wasn't even a big deal.

00:42:55.000 But, and then once you, once you start to put that in their minds, then they're like, Oh, well, maybe I shouldn't do this.

00:43:01.000 Maybe I shouldn't play with that person or whatever. 0.71

00:43:03.000 I just feel like that.

00:43:06.000 I feel like that's, how do I want to explain that?

00:43:10.000 It's like, I just feel like when you teach them, teaching them in a way that won't, um, That won't cause them to, I don't know, to in a way be racist because it's like you're teaching them racism.

00:43:28.000 Well, imagine you're a little white, you're a little white kid and you don't know anything about it, but you're taught immediately.

00:43:34.000 And by the way, it's also inaccurate to act as though slavery was exclusively an American white problem.

00:43:39.000 Like that's just, that's just not accurate to it happened.

00:43:41.000 It still exists today.

00:43:42.000 Like there are more slaves right now in the world today than ever. 0.99

00:43:45.000 Because most of them are sex slaves. 0.99

00:43:47.000 So we just sort of, because we are all way more privileged in the United States where we don't have slavery, black and white, we don't realize that in Asia, in the Middle East, in Africa, slavery is still a way of life.

00:43:57.000 And it's not based on race.

00:43:59.000 It's based on whoever you can subjugate, you know?

00:44:02.000 And that's where the slave trade started, right?

00:44:03.000 Was West Africa and North Africa.

00:44:05.000 Like we talked about this not too long ago on a program.

00:44:08.000 There were over a million, you know, white Mediterraneans who were just kidnapped off of the Mediterranean coast.

00:44:14.000 And enslaved.

00:44:15.000 Like, a lot.

00:44:16.000 A lot.

00:44:16.000 But they weren't just enslaving.

00:44:18.000 It started in Africa, so a lot of slaves were black.

00:44:19.000 But they also went to the Mediterranean and enslaved whoever they could find. 0.90

00:44:24.000 And sold them.

00:44:25.000 And actually, that was a big thing, you know.

00:44:27.000 Think about it.

00:44:28.000 You're in the United States of America.

00:44:29.000 And at this point, slavery is everywhere.

00:44:32.000 And it's the biggest export, effectively, from that continent, right?

00:44:36.000 From the African continent.

00:44:37.000 And you want to end it, but you can't at that point.

00:44:40.000 Because everyone took the bloodiest war ever to end it.

00:44:43.000 And largely white people, but white and black people fighting hand in hand.

00:44:46.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:47.000 Everyone makes mistakes, but to then instill into, and I see this, and I'm worried as someone who has young kids, white kids, where I don't want him to be made to feel guilty for something he had nothing to do with. 0.96

00:45:00.000 Because I know that if you tell him, hey, you're basically garbage because someone did this hundreds of years ago. 0.93

00:45:07.000 That's the problem. 0.99

00:45:08.000 That's going to create more racism.

00:45:09.000 Exactly.

00:45:10.000 Yeah, that's a problem.

00:45:13.000 Yeah, I'm talking about, yeah, in school, if you do that and you say, hey, you need to, you know, atone for the sins of your great, great, great forefathers, like, all of a sudden, as opposed to being that kid who's hanging out with people of any race, watching people of any race on TV, you're going, oh, there's a separation here, and I must have done something wrong because I was born white. 0.64

00:45:33.000 And we see that now, where there's definitely, I do think racist sentiments have gone up, just not in the sense that they support slavery, but just people are afraid to talk.

00:45:44.000 And that's something that we we run into quite a bit.

00:45:46.000 So it just seems like there's gotta be some some sort of a middle ground though.

00:45:50.000 Yeah, you know and but finding it that's that's the finding that sweet spot of actually just teaching about history, but not again making person feel like trash because Their forefathers whatever, you know did whatever whatever.

00:46:05.000 I mean, we're all human.

00:46:06.000 We all make mistakes.

00:46:07.000 It's like If we all taught real history, I mean, I think we would all give each other some grace.

00:46:16.000 Well, I think, yeah, I think you're right.

00:46:17.000 And I think, I do think that, you know, since public education, which has been a huge failure, by the way, on all fronts, white and black. 1.00

00:46:24.000 But it's been largely run by white people.

00:46:27.000 They've done kind of what you were talking about, divide people and try and say, hey, hold on, look, we're going to give you this black community, we're going to do affirmative action, or we're going to teach about slavery, and we're going to make it all like 75% of Southern whites own no slaves. 0.53

00:46:41.000 That's a huge, huge majority, right?

00:46:43.000 It's very small.

00:46:44.000 And by the way, there were black Southerners who owned slaves too.

00:46:46.000 Absolutely.

00:46:47.000 So, when you do that, first off it's not honest, and then you create a division that is just going to perpetuate more racism.

00:46:54.000 And I tell you what, I do see it with younger people now, more than I saw it in my generation, where they're either just completely guilted and they're afraid to talk about anything, or they go, you know what, screw this, screw you, I'm not going to be made to feel like I'm racist just because I was born white.

00:47:10.000 And public education is terrible.

00:47:11.000 It's a real problem.

00:47:11.000 It's awful.

00:47:11.000 And no one actually wants to fix it.

00:47:14.000 It's not a money problem.

00:47:15.000 There's plenty of money.

00:47:16.000 talking and it just creates more divide. Sad. And public education is terrible.

00:47:21.000 It's awful. It's a real problem and no one actually wants to fix it. It's not a

00:47:27.000 money problem too, there's plenty of money. It's just it's not going to the

00:47:30.000 right place. Yeah, it's going out in the private schools.

00:47:32.000 I don't know if that's the answer either.

00:47:34.000 I know plenty of kids that went to private school and they're just as screwed up as the people who went to wealthy schools.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, well that happens too.

00:47:41.000 You know, sometimes ugly things happen in pretty houses.

00:47:43.000 A lot of people think if you're wealthy that you must not have problems, but it just comes with different problems in a lot of private schools.

00:47:49.000 But we've talked like we've talked about public education, the idea of school choice, which just means because right now, let's say you average in this county, let's say it's let's say $15,000 per student rate is what we spend on tax dollars.

00:48:00.000 If you just average out the number, one of the solutions that's been proposed out there, and I always talk about this right now, I don't know how anyone can disagree with this.

00:48:07.000 Is rather than just send the money to the school, where they get it no matter how they perform, is attach the money to the students.

00:48:13.000 Meaning, hey, this is how much we spend per student, so this student has this credit to take to any school that they want to.

00:48:19.000 If parents want to drive them, or if they want to get on a bus, or if there's, I mean, here you have so many schools that are close together, right?

00:48:24.000 Sometimes you're closer to the school you're not supposed to go to, because the county line says we're going to attach that to the student, and all of you schools, public schools still, you have to perform better.

00:48:34.000 Because if you don't, they're not going to go to your school.

00:48:36.000 That's a solution out there that just seems to me like it doesn't change the funding even at this point.

00:48:40.000 We're not even talking about changing the budget.

00:48:42.000 Just talking about instead of just giving it to a school and these teachers and these administrators, we're going to give it to the student to take whatever the parents want.

00:48:51.000 Yeah, they won't like that because it's going to force the teachers and the the academic community in general to actually do what they're

00:48:59.000 Right.

00:48:59.000 supposed to do.

00:49:00.000 Because if all the kids want to go to school A, and you got school B sitting over here with nobody like,

00:49:04.000 oh my god, nobody, they're going to lose all that money,

00:49:07.000 people lose their job, blah blah blah, whatever.

00:49:09.000 So, I mean, yeah, it forces people to step up.

00:49:12.000 So, I totally agree with that.

00:49:13.000 It's funny, because we're not allowed to criticize teachers in the white community.

00:49:17.000 They're like, the teachers, you mean the true heroes.

00:49:19.000 It's like, I kind of thought those were firefighters.

00:49:23.000 Well, I think the role of teacher has changed dramatically over the past decade or so, because now they're training teachers out of shooting class, and I'm just like flabbergasted at how different it is to actually Just be an educator or even be a student in this day and age.

00:49:41.000 Just having drills, you know, for shooters, active shooters and all this crazy.

00:49:47.000 I can't even, I can't imagine.

00:49:49.000 What do you think on that?

00:49:50.000 What do you think about having people though at schools, like not only armed guards, but if teachers are qualified to be able to have a locked firearm to protect their students?

00:50:01.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:50:03.000 I think it's a really good thing because we have seen in various videos that have surfaced that security guards aren't Or they're qualified or do the appropriate thing.

00:50:15.000 Or they're brave.

00:50:16.000 Yeah, look at Uvalde.

00:50:17.000 Or actually run the opposite way when things happen.

00:50:20.000 So, yeah.

00:50:21.000 Yeah, that's where the Uvalde thing was just... That was... It was the hair in the... Like, I was filled with rage. 1.00

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 Like, oh, hold on, we can't... It's a risk.

00:50:31.000 It's like, kids are dying in that room.

00:50:34.000 You signed up to be a police officer.

00:50:35.000 It's not just to give out speeding tickets.

00:50:36.000 This is what we pay you for.

00:50:38.000 Exactly.

00:50:40.000 No, that's a big, that's something that's been proposed where, um, you know, people say, oh, that's, that's encouraging more shootings by allowing people, teachers who are, again, we're talking about teachers who want to have firearms.

00:50:40.000 Yeah.

00:50:49.000 Right.

00:50:50.000 Not making it mandatory.

00:50:51.000 Yes, of course.

00:50:52.000 Yeah, no.

00:50:52.000 No, you don't want to give a gun to someone who doesn't want it.

00:50:54.000 But if someone is a teacher who's qualified and has a permit, and anytime they're outside of school, they're carrying a firearm and they have one in their car, Why wouldn't they be allowed to in their profession?

00:51:03.000 They're allowed in a lot of other professions.

00:51:05.000 Of course, it has to be locked.

00:51:06.000 Of course, you have to have, just like everywhere else, you have to be responsible.

00:51:09.000 But I don't think we'll see that in our lifetime because it's a pretty cost-effective solution to start with.

00:51:15.000 It's not the full solution, but it's a step.

00:51:18.000 It's not going to happen.

00:51:19.000 I mean, it'll maybe happen in some municipalities, but... See, this is the thing.

00:51:23.000 This is why these... Like, I tell you, I go on campus and I talk with kids or, you know, if I have a debate on air or something, like, they act like all of this is crazy.

00:51:31.000 What we all disagree on.

00:51:32.000 Like, you can't have teachers with guns.

00:51:34.000 Like, why?

00:51:36.000 Why not?

00:51:37.000 Everybody else has a gun.

00:51:38.000 Why can't they have one?

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:39.000 If they choose to.

00:51:40.000 Right.

00:51:42.000 Yeah, especially to like, you know, I think a big problem too that we in my generation was Black Lives Matter and then the police kind of thing.

00:51:48.000 And I will tell you this, not a fan of certainly the organization Black Lives Matter.

00:51:52.000 I mean, for crying out loud, the woman just bought like her third multi-million dollar house. 1.00

00:51:56.000 But I also didn't say just back the blue period because there is corruption within the police force.

00:52:01.000 I don't think that the biggest problem that police force is, you know, just pulling over black people and them being racist.

00:52:07.000 I think the biggest problem that police force is, like you talk about the teachers, where it's not performance-based, they're not trained properly, and a lot of them abuse their authority.

00:52:16.000 Like Uvalde was not, wasn't a race thing.

00:52:19.000 That was a police problem.

00:52:21.000 And if we all just said, okay, we can all agree on this problem with the police, as opposed to making it just a race thing right now.

00:52:26.000 Like, let's start with this.

00:52:27.000 And instead, what happened right away is we go right to racist police and it's like, well, then you just divide and the conversation breaks down.

00:52:34.000 And, uh, yeah, I'm not, um, I mean, I think police officers have a tough job, but, uh, There needs to be some reform.

00:52:41.000 People have it worse actually.

00:52:43.000 Black cops, like my dad is from Detroit. 0.99

00:52:45.000 Detroit proper. 1.00

00:52:47.000 Worst city in the country.

00:52:49.000 Take the worst area of South, it's not even close.

00:52:50.000 The house he grew up in as a kid just sold for $8,000.

00:52:53.000 A full-size house in downtown Detroit.

00:52:58.000 Full-size house.

00:52:59.000 Yeah, he grew up In a very, very bad area.

00:53:03.000 And black police officers in Detroit, they'd have to drive them home in unmarked cars because they were being killed in such high numbers during the Detroit riots.

00:53:14.000 Think about that. 0.83

00:53:15.000 That's got to be the worst job in the country at that point in time.

00:53:20.000 What do you think we need to do on that front like as far as police reform?

00:53:23.000 I am so sorry.

00:53:30.000 No, that's fine.

00:53:31.000 I invaded your while you were getting your haircut and I just started talking.

00:53:34.000 I just, unfortunately, I'm doing something I shouldn't be.

00:53:34.000 No, you're fine.

00:53:37.000 I'm working.

00:53:38.000 I'm working while I'm getting my hair done.

00:53:41.000 You're doing something you shouldn't be?

00:53:42.000 Oh, I thought you said, I'm doing something I shouldn't be.

00:53:43.000 I'm selling crack.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, no.

00:53:47.000 Matter of fact, I don't have to be on it.

00:53:48.000 So I was just making sure I wasn't missing a meeting.

00:53:50.000 Oh, anyway, now I'm sorry.

00:53:51.000 What was your question? 0.98

00:53:52.000 Okay, if you're a white, I would say selling meth. 1.00

00:53:54.000 But heroin bridges the great divide. 0.98

00:53:56.000 Both black people and white people love heroin.

00:53:58.000 So let's just all take some heroin and we'll sort it out. 0.97

00:54:03.000 No, police reform.

00:54:05.000 How do you think the Black Lives Matter thing...

00:54:09.000 I say thing because there's the organization, and there's the idea that, okay, justice, right, and make sure we have good policing.

00:54:17.000 How do you think that overall affected, you know, not only black, but relationships between the white and black?

00:54:23.000 I think it helped him a lot.

00:54:25.000 I was just about to say the same thing.

00:54:26.000 It helped him a lot.

00:54:27.000 If black lives matter, I'm black.

00:54:29.000 It doesn't matter. 0.83

00:54:31.000 Yeah.

00:54:31.000 All life do not call on me.

00:54:31.000 Sure.

00:54:33.000 And I know we have business with being, but everybody, everybody's generation has been through something,

00:54:38.000 I feel right now.

00:54:39.000 Sure.

00:54:39.000 And I feel like God created us all equal though, no matter what.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 When he looks at us, he don't look at black eyes, white eyes, Chinese.

00:54:46.000 He look at us as a whole.

00:54:48.000 Right.

00:54:49.000 So when I see stuff that divides and it has crying for it, it always, I come before Paul.

00:54:55.000 Yeah.

00:54:55.000 So, therefore, anything with pride in front of it is never going to be sustainable.

00:54:59.000 It's always going to be service level stuff.

00:55:01.000 Yeah.

00:55:01.000 It's never going to be like really deep because nobody wants to go deep.

00:55:04.000 Right.

00:55:05.000 Yeah.

00:55:06.000 So, you wouldn't say that it's racist for someone to say all lives matter?

00:55:06.000 Yeah.

00:55:11.000 No.

00:55:12.000 Oh, well, see, you have...

00:55:14.000 You have no idea.

00:55:15.000 Like the Van Jones, exactly, these people in the media, they would say, that's a dog whistle, meaning it's coded language for white supremacy.

00:55:22.000 Well, yeah, I think black lives matter, but I think all lives matter, they would say, that's racist.

00:55:26.000 Because you're telling black people that their lives don't matter as much.

00:55:29.000 No, no, I'm saying all lives matter, but to start with, it implies that only these lives matter. 0.53

00:55:35.000 And I've got to tell you, I've only heard that it's racist from white people.

00:55:38.000 You just said the phrase.

00:55:39.000 I have literally been told, that is racist.

00:55:41.000 And I said, of course, black lives matter.

00:55:42.000 But of course, all lives matter, not just black lives. 0.99

00:55:45.000 I was like, that's racist.

00:55:48.000 That's because that's what people want to hear.

00:55:49.000 That's what they want to hear.

00:55:50.000 Yeah.

00:55:50.000 That's what people say.

00:55:52.000 And if I say anything other than that, it's ridiculous. 0.71

00:55:56.000 You're going to be prosecuted. 0.56

00:55:58.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:55:58.000 Oh, even by blacks. 0.98

00:56:00.000 Black lives matter.

00:56:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:02.000 No, you're black. 0.99

00:56:03.000 Because There's all lives on this earth. 0.96

00:56:03.000 How can you say that? 0.96

00:56:06.000 Yeah.

00:56:07.000 And they all do matter.

00:56:09.000 What do you think is the biggest misconception that white people at large might have about the black community?

00:56:18.000 Oh.

00:56:20.000 Wow.

00:56:27.000 Yeah.

00:56:29.000 Huh.

00:56:31.000 Well, because, you know, you hear people say, like, oh, they stereotype, so that seems like a place, like, what do we think is the biggest, maybe, thing that white people get wrong about?

00:56:39.000 I'll tell you what it is, the black community, using this term, right, I understand, like, loosely, is that we already touched on that, the idea of, like, white privilege, that all white people must have it easy, or that there's no, you know, there isn't a struggle, because there are a lot of different kinds of white people, just like a lot of different kinds of black people.

00:56:55.000 I'm trying to think of one thing that really sticks out that white people get wrong.

00:56:58.000 Like, no, no, no, no. Okay, look. General white population.

00:57:03.000 Let's get this straight.

00:57:04.000 Right.

00:57:05.000 Huh. I'm trying to think of one thing that really sticks out that white people get wrong. 0.70

00:57:16.000 Hmm.

00:57:21.000 I guess that means they get it mostly right.

00:57:23.000 Yeah.

00:57:29.000 Well, no, there's, I would say that we are always looking to, um, how do I want to, how do I want to phrase it? 0.70

00:57:41.000 Well, or maybe that most black people are afraid of white people.

00:57:46.000 I don't think that that's true at all. 0.52

00:57:50.000 Just because of everything that's happened, you know, police brutality, racism, blah, blah, whatever.

00:57:57.000 I feel like a lot of white people feel like, or that we're angry.

00:58:02.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:58:03.000 The angry black person. 1.00

00:58:04.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:58:05.000 We're not angry.

00:58:06.000 I don't think.

00:58:06.000 Or that we all live off the system.

00:58:09.000 Right. 0.98

00:58:11.000 Yeah, a lot of white people have autism. 0.94

00:58:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:58:13.000 But we get stereotyped as the ones who are so poor that we live off, everybody just have babies and live off the system.

00:58:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:19.000 There are so many redneck white trash people. 1.00

00:58:22.000 I shouldn't say that. 1.00

00:58:24.000 But yeah.

00:58:25.000 But we are not the only ones.

00:58:27.000 Like, if you're going out to the office, you see a majority of Yeah, well I think it's fine if you say that, as long as, because I understand that you're not saying all white, you are saying there's a specific subset of white people, you know, these towns, lived in Michigan, there are some towns that are destroyed by meth, you know, just destroyed by meth, like I know exactly what you're talking about, as long as

00:58:49.000 It's also, um, I guess I should say, not permissible, but you also afford the same grace to a white person saying, I'm not saying all black people, but there are some ghetto hood rat, whatever term, like these people who do actually live off the system. 0.97

00:59:02.000 They're not saying all black people, just like you don't mean all white people are white trash. 0.85

00:59:08.000 But there is a subset in both communities who look, they don't, they live off the system their entire lives. 0.99

00:59:14.000 So, that doesn't offend me at all. 0.99

00:59:16.000 I know the white trash people. 1.00

00:59:18.000 I have them in my family. 1.00

00:59:20.000 Not my direct family, not my direct family.

00:59:22.000 Everyone, though, in French Canada, in the extended family.

00:59:24.000 Mullets and 69, sorry, 89 Camaros, like it's, it looks like Joe Dirt.

00:59:30.000 They don't have drug problems, but yeah, as long as it's grace.

00:59:34.000 I'm not joining, sir.

00:59:36.000 Not joining what?

00:59:38.000 A meeting that I was invited to join.

00:59:40.000 I'm not joining that.

00:59:40.000 Okay.

00:59:41.000 You'd probably get nervous if a white guy looking like me said, I have to go join a meeting.

00:59:45.000 Like this is going to be a Klan thing, isn't it? 0.70

00:59:46.000 Uh-uh.

00:59:48.000 See?

00:59:48.000 Not you.

00:59:49.000 You're going to a breakfast meeting with coffee and danishes.

00:59:54.000 Danishes. 0.92

00:59:54.000 I haven't had danishes in a long time. 0.92

00:59:56.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:59:58.000 No, I think that's, um, I think that's, so how about, so like, okay, let's take that.

01:00:01.000 Not all black people live off the system.

01:00:03.000 A little bit.

01:00:04.000 And not all white people live off the system.

01:00:05.000 Right.

01:00:06.000 I would say the approach is, okay, now there are statistical realities as far as who uses the system and how the system is abused.

01:00:14.000 The solution is to reform the system, period.

01:00:18.000 Whether it's white people or black people.

01:00:20.000 Now, if that disproportionately ended up affecting black people because they're, let's say, depending on the state, too.

01:00:26.000 It really does depend on the state. 0.97

01:00:30.000 Yeah, like if you go to West Virginia, you're gonna have a disproportionate number of white people abusing the system. 0.95

01:00:33.000 Right. 0.97

01:00:34.000 But if you go to, you know, certain areas of, you know, Houston or something like that or South Central, you have a disproportionate number of black people abusing the system. 1.00

01:00:39.000 So as long as we just look at it, this system needs reform. 0.56

01:00:43.000 Like, what do you think about, for example, like, welfare, um, or whatever it is, okay, uh, basic drug testing.

01:00:51.000 Would, like, get drug tested?

01:00:52.000 Have them be, have people, uh, get drug tested before, oh, I think that's a 100% great thing.

01:00:59.000 Absolutely.

01:00:59.000 Okay.

01:01:00.000 Yeah.

01:01:00.000 You don't get this check if you're just getting high.

01:01:02.000 Absolutely.

01:01:04.000 I am all for that.

01:01:05.000 That's been proposed.

01:01:07.000 It's been called racist.

01:01:09.000 But I'm just saying, well, I'm saying drug test white people too! 0.86

01:01:11.000 Right, how is that racist?

01:01:13.000 We're drug testing everybody! 0.67

01:01:16.000 Again, because it's not just black people who are on welfare. 0.76

01:01:20.000 No. 0.80

01:01:20.000 Oh my God. 0.80

01:01:22.000 Or the solution that, okay, obviously, let's say you have social safety nets, like if you lose your job, right?

01:01:27.000 Unemployment, okay.

01:01:29.000 But if you've been on the system for a long time, Okay, there are government jobs that you work.

01:01:35.000 You work and you get a check.

01:01:36.000 So you don't just collect a check because you've been doing it now for, let's say, a year, two years, three years.

01:01:40.000 You go work this job and we'll place you into a private sector job, but now you have to work to keep receiving a check.

01:01:46.000 That seems... Seems fair to me.

01:01:48.000 I mean, as a matter of fact, it's giving them a leg up.

01:01:51.000 You're giving them a job.

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 I mean, versus having to go out and find one.

01:01:55.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:57.000 It's a win-win to me.

01:01:58.000 I mean, there's so many jobs that don't require a lot of skill or education, like in the government, like answering calls, filing papers.

01:02:03.000 It's like, okay, well now you can't just collect a check forever.

01:02:05.000 We helped you when you were down, but now you need to just work.

01:02:09.000 So drug test and just work.

01:02:10.000 Right.

01:02:12.000 Absolutely.

01:02:12.000 That's just the system in general.

01:02:14.000 It doesn't matter if you're white, black, Asian.

01:02:17.000 I don't think there are a lot of... I don't think there are a lot of Asian Americans who use the system, though, to be honest.

01:02:22.000 I don't think there are a lot of them on welfare.

01:02:24.000 I was gonna say, are there?

01:02:25.000 That's probably a .0001 percentile, if.

01:02:29.000 That comes from a culture of, like, pride.

01:02:32.000 And, like, you do not take that money. 0.98

01:02:34.000 Your mom will beat the s**t out of you. 1.00

01:02:36.000 Yes. 1.00

01:02:37.000 Yeah.

01:02:38.000 My lawyer's Asian.

01:02:39.000 His mom taped soap in his mouth and jimmed piano keys in his neck because he played the wrong note.

01:02:47.000 Yeah, Tiger Mom's real.

01:02:50.000 It's so sad because there are so many stereotypes or jokes about that.

01:02:54.000 I can't even, I recall something.

01:02:57.000 Was it a family guy or something like that?

01:02:59.000 There was a little Asian guy in the room studying and the dad comes in and talking about it.

01:03:05.000 He said, you Dr. Yeti?

01:03:06.000 He's like, no, I come back when you doctor.

01:03:08.000 Well, there are some, look, I think we can agree that some stereotypes stem from some kind of truth, obviously, and that's for white people and for black.

01:03:18.000 Okay.

01:03:22.000 A lot of Indians around this area.

01:03:24.000 Have you noticed that like this is something I noticed because they come from countries a lot of them where they don't drive.

01:03:27.000 They're not cars.

01:03:28.000 They put student driver on their car.

01:03:30.000 Have you seen this?

01:03:31.000 And it's like a 45 year old.

01:03:33.000 But I appreciate that.

01:03:35.000 I've never seen that.

01:03:36.000 Oh, you've seen it, right?

01:03:37.000 Yeah, it's everywhere here.

01:03:39.000 But I've never noticed because I guess a lot of people have tinted windows or I'm just not paying attention as I pass by.

01:03:45.000 But I have seen a lot more student driver stickers.

01:03:47.000 Yeah, student driver stickers.

01:03:48.000 You know what, though?

01:03:49.000 I appreciate it because they're basically saying, you know, I know I can drive, so keep a wide, cut a wide swat.

01:03:56.000 I will say that I was actually almost sideswiped by an Indian, uh, maybe about two or three months ago out on a bike. 1.00

01:04:03.000 And they, yeah, it was like he was on a bike.

01:04:06.000 No, I was on the bike.

01:04:07.000 He was in the car and I almost got sideswiped because he literally couldn't drive.

01:04:12.000 So, and as we raced to follow him, when he went into wherever he finally parked, what?

01:04:19.000 I don't understand.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:22.000 Really?

01:04:22.000 Oh no, you understand.

01:04:24.000 He almost sideswiped you.

01:04:25.000 You almost killed me, but you're trying to play that.

01:04:28.000 Maybe he didn't.

01:04:28.000 He didn't understand his GPS.

01:04:30.000 She was talking to him and he was confused.

01:04:32.000 Yeah.

01:04:33.000 But no, okay, so that comes down to like, that's not because of the color of your, the melanin in your skin.

01:04:38.000 That does stem from like a lot of these, a lot of these people, when I say these people come from countries of their first generation immigrants, they don't have cars. 1.00

01:04:44.000 They don't drive, you know?

01:04:46.000 So... Italy?

01:04:47.000 No, it's true!

01:04:48.000 Yeah, especially there are a lot of people coming here, you know, with the tech jobs from India right now, or Bangladesh, and they're certainly not used to the crazy Texas freeways like this, you know?

01:04:58.000 So that's a big reason why.

01:04:59.000 It's just like, for a lot of the same stereotypes that you see with black and white people, you're like, well, that's not because of the color of their skin, there are sometimes cultural differences.

01:05:07.000 The food that we eat, you know, the kind of entertainment we consume, it's like, no one's saying it's because You're black and you're white.

01:05:14.000 We're sitting there in these communities where we have differences.

01:05:16.000 And that's, I think, a difference between a stereotype that's actually racist versus, ah, if you come from a country where you guys don't use cars, it makes sense that you might not drive so much.

01:05:24.000 Right.

01:05:25.000 Especially if you look in China, like, they have those, like, Honda Cub scooters.

01:05:28.000 They have, like, 19 family members in a chicken coop going uphill. 0.96

01:05:31.000 Come on, you've seen that s***, right?

01:05:33.000 On a motorcycle? 0.98

01:05:34.000 Yes.

01:05:35.000 Yeah.

01:05:35.000 They'll have a... That was so funny.

01:05:38.000 That was my first motorcycle.

01:05:40.000 You know that's the most common?

01:05:43.000 You probably know it if you see it.

01:05:45.000 It's not like a Vespa.

01:05:47.000 It's kind of like a middle ground between a motorcycle and a scooter.

01:05:52.000 Like a hybrid.

01:05:52.000 Because we don't see them a lot here.

01:05:55.000 It's the most sold vehicle of all time.

01:05:59.000 The Honda Cup.

01:06:00.000 It's like 65 million sold.

01:06:02.000 Because we don't think of it, but all over Asia.

01:06:05.000 And these things are indestructible.

01:06:06.000 You can put vegetable oil in the end and it'll work.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, and unlike a scooter, the big reason too is because they put stuff, they carry their stuff around.

01:06:14.000 It has, um, it's below the CC requirement because of like smog and everything, but it has three gears.

01:06:21.000 So you can still use like the first gear, you know, and go uphill, you know, with your whole extended family and a couple of cows in the saddlebags.

01:06:29.000 They don't sell those here, though, do they?

01:06:31.000 They do, they just re-released it, but it doesn't really make a lot of sense in the States, you know, because you need to be moving a lot.

01:06:36.000 These things have a max speed of, like, 40 miles per hour.

01:06:38.000 Oh, well.

01:06:40.000 Yeah.

01:06:41.000 That's not even working on the side streets.

01:06:42.000 I was thinking, yeah, it'd be nice, you know, just to kind of get around the neighborhood, but now people are flying doing 50, including myself, on these side streets.

01:06:50.000 So it's, yeah, not even working.

01:06:52.000 We'll scrub that if that's on camera.

01:06:54.000 We all go the speed limit.

01:06:58.000 Yes.

01:06:59.000 My dad, last time we were actually, he mentioned SMU campus.

01:07:01.000 We were driving back from SMU and my dad was in the car.

01:07:05.000 I had never heard of this before.

01:07:07.000 He got hit doing, I think he was doing like 45. 1.00

01:07:09.000 They said, hey man, the cop goes, just so you know, like cops can be assholes to white people too. 0.99

01:07:15.000 And he goes, hey, You have any reason you were going so fast? 0.99

01:07:19.000 My dad goes, I was going, I was going like 42.

01:07:22.000 He goes, this is a school zone.

01:07:25.000 My dad says, at a university?

01:07:28.000 These are adults! 0.99

01:07:30.000 Like, those are grown ass men! 0.97

01:07:31.000 The cop's like, ah, you want to get smart with me? 0.98

01:07:34.000 He's like, just give me the ticket.

01:07:35.000 Like, it was just, that's, I had never heard of that.

01:07:38.000 Yeah, it's funny.

01:07:40.000 So, I don't know.

01:07:41.000 Maybe if he was black, he would have been, you know, on the hood with his cuffs, like, ah, you got anything in your pocket? 0.59

01:07:45.000 But I just think the cop was having a bad day.

01:07:47.000 But if you go to SMU, know that there are speed limits now.

01:07:50.000 Or TCU.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, and those are... TCU and SMU are very privileged schools, so absolutely they're gonna, you know...

01:08:03.000 Just make it extremely difficult around those universities.

01:08:07.000 I'll just say that.

01:08:09.000 Well, I just think so they can make more revenue.

01:08:11.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:08:12.000 As if they need any more, but yes.

01:08:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:15.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing, too, is when people talk about defunding the police, that's a problem.

01:08:20.000 But we also need to look at where the spending is going.

01:08:21.000 Like, hey, how about before we go to defund?

01:08:23.000 Because that's not good.

01:08:24.000 That's not been good where you don't have police.

01:08:26.000 That's not a good idea.

01:08:27.000 But what are we doing with the money?

01:08:32.000 It's not great.

01:08:34.000 It's not great.

01:08:34.000 It goes back to what you're saying about them being educated and trained properly.

01:08:40.000 If there's no money to do that, then it's gonna be the police.

01:08:43.000 They don't want to be that.

01:08:43.000 They are.

01:08:44.000 The people who have evil in their hearts, they've been trained to.

01:08:48.000 Well, some police.

01:08:48.000 There are a lot of good police.

01:08:49.000 Not everybody.

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.000 I'm talking about the one who is.

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:52.000 The ones who ain't is.

01:08:53.000 Who they are.

01:08:54.000 They just put on the uniform.

01:08:56.000 Well, those are the ones that don't need to be police officers.

01:08:57.000 Exactly.

01:08:58.000 But, I mean, how do you get them?

01:09:00.000 They didn't try to kill people for innocence or anything like that.

01:09:03.000 Not just black people, but anyone.

01:09:05.000 Does this surprise you?

01:09:06.000 This is something that a lot of... Do you know that, um, actually, uh, when you're talking about being shot by the police, that, uh, specifically white men, and if you're dealing specifically with armed white men, like white men are many times more likely to be shot by the police.

01:09:21.000 Did you know that?

01:09:23.000 Really?

01:09:24.000 Way more likely.

01:09:25.000 Yeah.

01:09:26.000 There's, there's a disparity between armed and unarmed.

01:09:29.000 Um, and so a lot of the stat is like unarmed black men are more likely to be shot by the police.

01:09:34.000 Armed white men are more likely to be shot by the police.

01:09:36.000 So both have a gun. 0.95

01:09:37.000 A big reason though, too, is unarmed black men are more likely to assault the police officers. 0.98

01:09:45.000 That is true. 0.95

01:09:45.000 That is just a reality. 0.95

01:09:46.000 I'll tell you this.

01:09:48.000 I saw it right here.

01:09:52.000 It was a corner of Parker and Midway.

01:09:56.000 And there was this, I'm sorry, it was a female officer, and it was a very large black man. 0.91

01:10:02.000 And I was, and I watched, and there was a black man, he was obviously high, too, like he was, you know, and this woman was terrified.

01:10:09.000 She had no business, I'm sorry, she had no business, like, I do, like, female police officers, if you can't meet the PT requirements, like, you shouldn't be dealing with a giant black guy in PCP. 1.00

01:10:18.000 This guy was like six foot five, and he didn't have a shirt on.

01:10:22.000 His sister does boxers.

01:10:24.000 And I think I have it on my phone and I could see him too because, you know, I could see the body language.

01:10:31.000 I'm like, a shot's coming.

01:10:33.000 A shot's coming.

01:10:33.000 He's going like this.

01:10:34.000 They kind of put his hands behind his back. 0.99

01:10:35.000 You know, he did this thing and like the light woman was, I'm sorry to say, so dumb at the top. 0.97

01:10:40.000 She was like, okay, this is good. 0.99

01:10:41.000 He's going to come peacefully.

01:10:43.000 And then just boom.

01:10:44.000 And he just, she took it like a champo.

01:10:47.000 She didn't go down and then they tased him.

01:10:50.000 Um, but statistically as they are, Black perpetrators are more likely to, and that could also be byproduct of drugs in certain communities, more likely to physically assault an officer. 0.92

01:10:59.000 So there's a disparity there. 0.86

01:11:00.000 But as far as armed white men and armed black men, white men are more likely to be shot. 0.88

01:11:04.000 And a police officer is 16 times more likely to be shot by a black man than a black man from a police officer. 0.96

01:11:11.000 And that includes black police officers. 0.98

01:11:13.000 That's my problem with Black Lives Matter. 1.00

01:11:16.000 And then one side of Black Lives Matter, one side back to blue. 0.77

01:11:18.000 Well, hold on a second.

01:11:20.000 What about the black lives of these black policemen? 0.97

01:11:22.000 Because there are a lot of black policemen. 0.80

01:11:25.000 And we need them.

01:11:26.000 We need them because I think a lot of them say, hey, we need some kind of police reform.

01:11:29.000 They had bad police in their community.

01:11:31.000 And they say, I want to improve it, do well.

01:11:34.000 But I've spoken with a lot of black officers and they go, yeah, this is a thankless job. 1.00

01:11:38.000 It's a thankless job now because I'm being demonized as a black police officer. 0.96

01:11:42.000 Like it's, I'm on one side of it and I hate my community.

01:11:45.000 It couldn't be further from the truth.

01:11:46.000 And that to me was really sad.

01:11:48.000 I think it also, it kind of erodes away at the white officers.

01:11:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:53.000 Because it, you know, over time, they just, they start to say, suck it. 1.00

01:11:57.000 And I've seen some bad black police officers. 1.00

01:12:01.000 I mean, it's like bad white police officer, but when I see them on tape, the black officer, it just kind of, it hurts me a little bit more. 0.98

01:12:11.000 Yeah. 0.64

01:12:12.000 I mean, I am a black woman.

01:12:14.000 So it's just, man, I just, I thought we were better than this, but I mean.

01:12:18.000 They're human just like everybody else is, so I mean, they need reform just like everybody, just like all the police officers, or the ones that have the issues.

01:12:27.000 The one that really breaks my heart, and I'll end with this, because I think a lot of people don't know this.

01:12:31.000 You remember, well really the first Hands Up, Don't Shoot was Mike Brown, right?

01:12:36.000 Not Mike Brown, the officer.

01:12:37.000 I'll tell you this, because Mike Brown assaulted that police officer with his own gun.

01:12:42.000 A lot of people don't know that.

01:12:44.000 And that guy, Darren Wilson was the name of the police officer so a lot of people because there are bad police officers right you have you have certain ones where it's you're like okay clearly this was a wrong shoot but that one was used his hands weren't up

01:12:58.000 He was reaching into the police car, he had hit the cop, taken his gun, and was beating the s*** out of this officer, Darren Wilson.

01:13:04.000 And Darren Wilson, actually, he specifically, he was actually given a job in a pretty easy area, and he said, no, I actually want to be here, I want to go to Ferguson, because I think that we have bad policing, and we need to build trust between our police department and the black community.

01:13:20.000 He was loved in that community.

01:13:22.000 He was one of the good officers.

01:13:24.000 And that was an example of a story that was just people were force-fed a lie.

01:13:27.000 A complete lie.

01:13:29.000 And you saw what happened with, you know, with Ferguson after that in Missouri.

01:13:32.000 Like, I think if people knew that truth, they would go, okay, let's take a step back.

01:13:35.000 Because that guy's life was destroyed.

01:13:36.000 I was going to say whatever happened to him, like, probably in hiding somewhere, I guess.

01:13:41.000 Because I'm sure he got a jillion death threats or whatever, so.

01:13:45.000 And you lose a good cop.

01:13:46.000 Yep.

01:13:47.000 You lose a good cop.

01:13:48.000 Not saying there aren't the bad cops, but people don't know that story a lot and it was used as a lie where hands up, don't shoot.

01:13:53.000 And again, if you said, hold on a second, hold on a second.

01:13:56.000 This is not true.

01:13:57.000 You get people shut you down and go, well, are you a racist?

01:14:00.000 You're saying, no, no, no, no.

01:14:01.000 I'm saying that this is not the example that you're talking about.

01:14:04.000 Um, and that one, if, if ever you get some time, I would look at, you know, Darren Wilson and read up on him.

01:14:10.000 That guy was really vilified.

01:14:11.000 Um, When he was trying to do the right thing.

01:14:14.000 The guy was torn up, too.

01:14:15.000 He didn't want to have to shoot him. 0.99

01:14:16.000 What do you do, though, when you have a guy reaching for a gun, reaching into your car, beating the shit out of you? 0.96

01:14:22.000 So Mike Brown, and he was a big dude, too. 0.76

01:14:25.000 Is the air on?

01:14:27.000 Probably not.

01:14:28.000 Yeah, it's hot.

01:14:29.000 Travis, is the air on? 0.97

01:14:34.000 He was a big dude, and he was a criminal.

01:14:36.000 The answer now. Yep. 0.95

01:14:43.000 Yep.

01:14:44.000 Can you turn it up a little bit, maybe?

01:14:45.000 I think they on the high seat back there.

01:14:48.000 Literally, yeah.

01:14:48.000 It's hot as heck.

01:14:50.000 Just admit it, you on the high seat.

01:14:51.000 That's alright, Jay.

01:14:52.000 Yeah, heat rises. 0.86

01:14:54.000 It's hot back here.

01:14:56.000 You know, as the song says, it's getting hot in here.

01:15:00.000 Yes.

01:15:00.000 But I'm not taking anything off.

01:15:01.000 I was about to say, you heard what Nelly said. 0.86

01:15:04.000 Nah.

01:15:05.000 Not today.

01:15:06.000 Not today, sir.

01:15:07.000 I have a theory about Nelly.

01:15:09.000 I have a theory about his Band-Aid.

01:15:11.000 You know what it is?

01:15:12.000 I think, because if you look at Nelly, back when he was a teenager, he had bad acne.

01:15:12.000 What?

01:15:16.000 I think he had a bad zit, and he covered it up with his Band-Aid.

01:15:19.000 And I was like, what are you wearing a Band-Aid for?

01:15:20.000 He's like, no, this is my new style thing.

01:15:22.000 I'm doing the Band-Aid thing.

01:15:23.000 And then he had to stick with it.

01:15:26.000 I have no factual basis for that.

01:15:30.000 It does make sense.

01:15:31.000 It does.

01:15:32.000 You know why I thought that?

01:15:33.000 Because I tried it when I was a teenager.

01:15:35.000 I had a really bad zit, and I was like, oh, I fell off my bike.

01:15:43.000 Sir, what were we asking before?

01:15:44.000 I think we were talking about... Mike Brown.

01:15:47.000 Mike Brown.

01:15:47.000 Oh yeah, Mike Brown.

01:15:48.000 Yeah, he was a big dude.

01:15:48.000 He was big.

01:15:49.000 Big dude.

01:15:50.000 A lot bigger than Darren Wilson.

01:15:52.000 And, you know, that day he had just, he had just, you know, knocked over a liquor store.

01:15:56.000 He had stolen one of the shopkeepers.

01:15:58.000 He assaulted the shopkeeper and then got into an altercation with the officer, Darren Wilson.

01:16:04.000 And yeah, reached for the guy's gun and hit him in the head like... 0.97

01:16:08.000 Black big dude, though. 0.94

01:16:10.000 And, uh, that officer was, uh, he was there because he wanted to be there. 0.91

01:16:14.000 He wanted to be there.

01:16:15.000 And he said, Hey, we don't have good trust in the black community.

01:16:17.000 So I want to serve this community.

01:16:19.000 And they loved him before that, but the media picks it up.

01:16:21.000 And a lot of people don't do their research and it becomes hands up.

01:16:24.000 Don't shoot.

01:16:25.000 His hands weren't up.

01:16:27.000 He was in the car, beating the guy, grabbing the cop's gun.

01:16:31.000 Now, I think when we talk about that, the solution, so like, this is an unpopular opinion.

01:16:36.000 I love chokeholds.

01:16:37.000 Now, I mean actual chokeholds, because I come from a submission wrestling background.

01:16:41.000 The problem is, a lot of cops, they only learn their hand-to-hand combat.

01:16:45.000 They do it once.

01:16:46.000 And then they're police officers for the rest of their lives.

01:16:48.000 And so, if you don't actually know how to handle somebody physically, you have to go to your gun.

01:16:53.000 Right.

01:16:54.000 So, I think they should have guns.

01:16:55.000 Obviously, police officers need guns. 0.82

01:16:57.000 We're not like the UK where they have billy clubs and they just get mobbed and they can't do anything.

01:17:05.000 But, a lot of people, the problem is they say, okay, we don't want police officers to have guns.

01:17:08.000 Like, we don't want them to have tasers.

01:17:10.000 And I say, we don't want chokeholds.

01:17:11.000 We don't want, okay, well, what do you, now what do you do?

01:17:14.000 What do you want?

01:17:15.000 And I don't mean, now, a chokehold, just to be clear, and we actually did this on the show, where I was like, because this is something, I don't know, do it a lot.

01:17:22.000 I've been choked out many, many, many, many times.

01:17:24.000 It's in the sport.

01:17:25.000 Oh, so Jiu-Jitsu or Judo.

01:17:27.000 Yeah, it's a sport.

01:17:27.000 It's like, it's like wrestling, but it's a choke or it's a joint lock.

01:17:30.000 Chokehold is not drowning.

01:17:31.000 It's not suffocating.

01:17:32.000 It happens in three seconds.

01:17:34.000 Your blood gets shut off and you just go to sleep.

01:17:36.000 You don't even feel pain.

01:17:37.000 You feel like, you ever fall asleep in class?

01:17:40.000 Feels just like that, if applied properly.

01:17:43.000 So, it's actually the safe.

01:17:44.000 You don't want to have to get punched, knocked out, hit your head off the concrete.

01:17:47.000 You don't have to break somebody's arm.

01:17:48.000 You don't have to tase them.

01:17:50.000 So, that gets maligned, where people go, oh, this, like, when we're talking about George Floyd, there was no chokehold.

01:17:55.000 That wasn't a chokehold.

01:17:55.000 That had nothing to do with a chokehold.

01:17:57.000 But now, police officers can't use that at all.

01:18:00.000 And so, they have to go to their gun.

01:18:02.000 They should be trained at hand-to-hand, just like teachers who need or want a gun.

01:18:06.000 I think we act as though all violence is bad.

01:18:09.000 Like, how are you going to subdue a violent criminal?

01:18:09.000 And it's not.

01:18:11.000 What's the least harmful way? 0.73

01:18:14.000 Not shooting them! 0.92

01:18:16.000 But, you know, this would be considered sexist.

01:18:19.000 And they should have regular training as well.

01:18:21.000 Yes!

01:18:21.000 Think about it!

01:18:22.000 I mean, annually, hey, let's refresh.

01:18:24.000 Because maybe you forgot, or let's just make sure that you know what you're doing.

01:18:28.000 Do you have to renew your license at all?

01:18:31.000 Like a beauty license?

01:18:32.000 How often?

01:18:33.000 Every two years.

01:18:34.000 Every two years?

01:18:35.000 And what's the test like?

01:18:38.000 The first, we have one initial test, so it's not bad.

01:18:40.000 It's a hands-on, and then there's a practical another.

01:18:44.000 Okay, and you have to show that you're confident every couple of years.

01:18:47.000 Yes.

01:18:48.000 We just have to do a five-hour... What's the information report?

01:18:48.000 Yeah.

01:18:55.000 So we have to do 15 minutes of sex trafficking, and then you've got to do five hours of just continual education.

01:19:02.000 Will you say sex trafficking?

01:19:05.000 Okay.

01:19:07.000 You're gonna have to give... What?

01:19:09.000 Yes, we do.

01:19:10.000 Was it because there's a lot of sex trafficking?

01:19:12.000 I don't know, they just want us to be aware in case a little scent's in our chair, and maybe, you know, trying to show signs or something up there.

01:19:19.000 Is this news to you?

01:19:20.000 It is.

01:19:21.000 I was about to ask why.

01:19:24.000 You just said it like it was like you were just listing off your breakfast items.

01:19:27.000 Well, it's been going on since sex trafficking got really popular, so it became a part of, it wasn't always a part of the curriculum, so it made it mandatory, though.

01:19:34.000 I will say that it was, you know, not to get off on another subject, but yes, I've heard of the sex trafficking here, like, more recently.

01:19:34.000 Oh, okay.

01:19:42.000 I like having these conversations. 0.99

01:19:44.000 I usually talk to ass****s, that's my problem. 1.00

01:19:46.000 So I'm like, oh, I want to talk for a long time. 1.00

01:19:47.000 It's horrible.

01:19:48.000 Well, okay, so that brings me...

01:19:49.000 I know I said I was going to go, but I...

01:19:51.000 Yeah, I like having these conversations. 0.98

01:19:53.000 I usually talk to ass****, so that's my problem. 1.00

01:19:55.000 So I'm like, oh, I want to talk for a long time. 0.99

01:19:57.000 Sex trafficking is because of really the problem that we have at the border right now.

01:20:01.000 Like a lot of illegal immigration.

01:20:03.000 People, again, turn that into a racist issue.

01:20:06.000 We need to either close down the border or we need to make sure that we know who's coming into the country because it's a problem. 0.99

01:20:12.000 The big problem with that is the record number of sex traffic. 0.98

01:20:16.000 I mean, sex slaves. 1.00

01:20:17.000 Sex slaves right now. 1.00

01:20:18.000 It's unheard of. 0.97

01:20:19.000 What do you guys think about that?

01:20:20.000 Or gals, sorry. 0.99

01:20:22.000 Zs, if I have to use gender neutral now. 0.90

01:20:24.000 What do you think about the board issue, immigration in this country?

01:20:28.000 Do you think that's a problem that needs to be addressed?

01:20:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:20:32.000 I'm all for people getting a chance to live the so-called American dream that we're all living so abundantly here, but I just feel like there are so many issues that we have with the people that are here.

01:20:49.000 Again, I'm not against people coming in, but I mean, let's do it the legal and correct way.

01:20:55.000 Why do we have all this sneaking across the border and blah blah blah?

01:21:00.000 And I mean, and some of the people that do that, they actually end up being, you know, decent citizens.

01:21:07.000 Do you want to call them that?

01:21:08.000 Because they're not technically US citizens, but you know, they work and contribute to society, you know, that's great.

01:21:15.000 But I mean, then there are those that do not.

01:21:17.000 Yeah.

01:21:18.000 So, but again, we don't know that because you're sneaking over illegally.

01:21:22.000 So it's like, yeah, yeah.

01:21:26.000 See, I think if you're being honest here, that was the first time when we were talking, you were like, oh, I gotta be careful what I say, right?

01:21:33.000 You're going, I'm not saying people come here legally because you don't want to be accused of being racist, right?

01:21:38.000 That's what white people have to deal with all the time.

01:21:41.000 All the time.

01:21:42.000 I don't mean to say all black people, I don't mean to say all, but what I mean, like, that's the problem. 1.00

01:21:48.000 I think it's completely self-explanatory.

01:21:49.000 You're not talking about people who come here legally, but I don't think there's any racism at all in saying, You're coming here illegally, we don't know who you are.

01:21:57.000 You could just as easily be a sex trafficker, which many are.

01:22:00.000 Or you could be a decent person. 0.95

01:22:02.000 We don't know.

01:22:03.000 And it just so happens that it's at the southern border, so obviously a disproportionate number are going to be Hispanic.

01:22:10.000 But that's not why you have a problem with illegal immigration.

01:22:13.000 If it was happening in Canada, you'd probably have the same problem. 0.99

01:22:16.000 It'd be a bunch of obnoxious white people. 1.00

01:22:19.000 Canadians are obnoxious. 1.00

01:22:20.000 I think we should close the Canadian network. 0.98

01:22:22.000 But the Canadians were all nice and wonderful and friendly people.

01:22:24.000 Have you seen our Prime Minister?

01:22:25.000 Have you seen how many times that guy's done blackface? 0.99

01:22:28.000 No, no, seriously, have you?

01:22:30.000 No, I have not.

01:22:33.000 He does it more than any... He does it like 15 times.

01:22:36.000 We actually, every time we do a story on the show and we go, oh, the TV Prime Minister had this to say, we just show one of the clips of him in blackface.

01:22:41.000 We go, oh, sorry, wrong clip.

01:22:43.000 Just because I want everyone to know that that guy did it so many times.

01:22:46.000 He would go to sports games and paint his arms and legs black.

01:22:50.000 Oh, he went black body, not black face. 0.99

01:22:52.000 He went blonde. 0.90

01:22:54.000 It's almost like a fetish.

01:22:55.000 Like, he would do it all the time. 1.00

01:22:59.000 Because he's a b****. 1.00

01:23:00.000 And now, of course, he goes out and now he's the most progressive liberal. 0.99

01:23:03.000 Like, he literally, in his speeches in Canada, will say, and I want to discuss this with our, and he will say this, he will say, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, asexual, and a two-spirited community.

01:23:16.000 Two-spirit?

01:23:17.000 That's a new one.

01:23:19.000 Okay.

01:23:20.000 Now see, liberal white people go like, oh yeah, sure, two-spirit.

01:23:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:23.000 Like, we know.

01:23:24.000 No, it means it's a Native American version of, like, pansexual.

01:23:28.000 I mean, so you, you're not actually transgender.

01:23:31.000 Your spirit is multiple genders.

01:23:34.000 Wow.

01:23:35.000 I just explained it and it still doesn't make sense to me.

01:23:37.000 What?

01:23:37.000 Yeah.

01:23:38.000 So, but now, so in other words, people forgive him, right?

01:23:40.000 Because, oh, he's, he's on our side in Canada.

01:23:43.000 This guy did blackface so many times.

01:23:45.000 Like when you think of Megyn Kelly, I don't know if you remember Megyn Kelly, she got in so much trouble. 0.97

01:23:50.000 She got fired from ABC, NBC.

01:23:52.000 They said she was encouraging blackface.

01:23:54.000 Did you actually hear her quote?

01:23:56.000 She just said, she said, well, I'm not talking like blackface minstrel shows.

01:23:58.000 She said, but like when I was a kid, I had friends, white friends who dressed up like Diana Ross for Halloween with the hair and like, cause they love Diana Ross.

01:24:05.000 She said, is that racist?

01:24:07.000 And they, that's why she got fired. 1.00

01:24:09.000 Wow.

01:24:11.000 The exact quote was talking about she had a white friend who dressed up like Diana Ross.

01:24:15.000 And she said, I think, like, that obviously means that they loved Diana Ross.

01:24:18.000 They weren't trying to be racist.

01:24:20.000 They just wanted to dress up like Diana Ross. 0.99

01:24:22.000 You know why?

01:24:23.000 Because she spoke up.

01:24:24.000 You know why?

01:24:25.000 She spoke indirectly up.

01:24:26.000 You know, she didn't say, oh, you know, everybody should just love everyone.

01:24:30.000 She just said, I had a white friend that dressed up like Diana Ross. 1.00

01:24:33.000 So she spoke too much.

01:24:34.000 If she would have just been quiet and not even addressed the fact that she even had a friend who did that, she wouldn't have got fired. 0.93

01:24:40.000 No, no.

01:24:41.000 But that's the problem, right?

01:24:42.000 Yeah, speaking up.

01:24:43.000 She'd be afraid, like, oh... Yeah, something as simple as that.

01:24:46.000 Yeah.

01:24:47.000 And it seems like there's a picking of the right people.

01:24:49.000 It's like, okay, you did blackface 15 times, but you say the right words now, so we're gonna leave you. 1.00

01:24:53.000 But we don't like you because you're, you know, a pretty blonde woman, and you're talking about that. 1.00

01:24:57.000 You're fired.

01:24:59.000 Because she's the stereotype of who white people should be, the blonde, pretty white girl. 1.00

01:25:03.000 So when you hear another blonde, pretty white girl, it's like, oh, Diana Ross, she had black friends.

01:25:08.000 That turns them on, their ears up, to the point where, well, maybe she's not racist. 0.87

01:25:13.000 She's not like us. 0.53

01:25:14.000 It makes them start going there in their mind.

01:25:18.000 I do always find it funny, though, when someone actually said something racist, and they get caught.

01:25:23.000 And that was the Canadian Prime Minister.

01:25:25.000 I remember I was hitting myself laughing when this happened.

01:25:29.000 So it came out, the first two videos of him doing blackface, and he was at this press conference, and he's just like, when you talk about weak white men, it's this guy, right?

01:25:41.000 And he comes out and he goes, Yes, and you know, I'm really sorry about, you know, in my past, I did dress up in ways that were, you know, distasteful.

01:25:51.000 And I did it, I did this one time, and I'm very apologetic.

01:25:56.000 And I apologize to the black community, the whole apology where I have to make this right. 1.00

01:26:01.000 Okay, he thinks he's about to get off scot-free.

01:26:03.000 So he addresses the one, he's like, Okay, thank you very much.

01:26:05.000 And he's about, he's walking off.

01:26:07.000 And one of the reporters goes, Yeah.

01:26:10.000 Are there any other times that you've performed in blackface?

01:26:14.000 And he stops.

01:26:17.000 And he turns back and goes, Oh, well, there was a there was one time at a school talent show where I did perform The banana song.

01:26:25.000 Thank you.

01:26:26.000 No more questions.

01:26:27.000 I Have to find this video like he had to address it like there was one time when I did full blackface and perform the banana song And you thought you were just gonna walk off right?

01:26:41.000 Oh my gosh I I was peeing myself laughing so hard because he got caught tantarites and tried to try to just shake it off and So, all right.

01:26:50.000 Anyway, go watch that if you want a good laugh.

01:26:52.000 Oh yeah, Justin Trudeau. 1.00

01:26:54.000 You'll want to punch him in his smug, stupid Canadian face. 1.00

01:26:58.000 All right, I'll let you continue doing your thing. 1.00

01:27:00.000 How long do you have to sit in this chair?

01:27:04.000 With generally three or four.

01:27:06.000 Oh my god.

01:27:07.000 How long have we been talking?

01:27:10.000 I don't know.

01:27:13.000 90 minutes?

01:27:16.000 I'm sorry, I'm a chatty Cathy.

01:27:17.000 It's not bad.

01:27:18.000 These are all good.

01:27:19.000 These are all good.

01:27:20.000 Yeah.

01:27:21.000 This is how concerned I am.

01:27:22.000 This is 25 bucks and it takes me like 30 minutes.

01:27:26.000 I know it's not a major selling point.

01:27:27.000 I haven't had my hair cut in months.

01:27:29.000 And I got one compliment from a woman, so I'm like, I'm never cutting my hair again.

01:27:32.000 I still think so.

01:27:33.000 I think it looks great.

01:27:34.000 I just need to trim this stuff.

01:27:36.000 You know, I need to clean this up.

01:27:37.000 A little bit?

01:27:38.000 The bisperous?

01:27:38.000 Yeah.

01:27:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:40.000 It's just because they said you have to grow it out first, and then trim it.

01:27:43.000 You know?

01:27:44.000 But, I don't know.

01:27:45.000 I'll probably cut it.

01:27:46.000 What's your name again?

01:27:47.000 My name's Steven.

01:27:48.000 It was Maya and... Jasmine.

01:27:50.000 Jasmine.

01:27:51.000 Thank you, Maya and Jasmine.

01:27:52.000 Thank you very much.

01:27:52.000 I appreciate it.

01:27:53.000 My hands are... Oh, sorry.

01:27:55.000 Thank you, Maya.

01:27:55.000 Nice meeting you.

01:27:57.000 I actually have one more question.

01:27:58.000 Yeah, yeah, go.

01:27:59.000 Which is talking about immigration in just Mexico in general, because that's where the border is.

01:28:07.000 How do you feel about, or how do you feel when they come over and Didn't I learn to speak English?

01:28:18.000 Bothers me.

01:28:19.000 Me as well.

01:28:20.000 No, it bothers me as well.

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:21.000 I mean, this is a good example of only in the United States is it considered racist to say we should have a national language.

01:28:29.000 Other countries do.

01:28:31.000 In Canada we have two, English and French. 1.00

01:28:32.000 Which is also stupid. 1.00

01:28:33.000 French shouldn't be one. 1.00

01:28:34.000 But yeah, that's also been something.

01:28:38.000 So this is, it's interesting that you bring that up because a lot of people in the white community have said we need to have a language that we all speak.

01:28:45.000 And they're accused of being racist.

01:28:47.000 Don't you get pissed off when you call into the customer service line and it's like press one for English, right? 0.98

01:28:52.000 I shouldn't have to press a damn thing. 0.95

01:28:55.000 Yes, we are in America. 0.97

01:28:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:28:58.000 No, I completely, I mean, my mom is French Canadian and she had to learn English.

01:29:03.000 You know, she had to learn English.

01:29:04.000 She came here when my dad, when we moved to Canada, my dad had to learn French.

01:29:07.000 Are you choking?

01:29:08.000 Are you okay?

01:29:12.000 Grab some water from that salt shaker looking thing.

01:29:20.000 It looks like the kosher salt shaker.

01:29:21.000 It doesn't look like a tumbler at all.

01:29:23.000 That's my son.

01:29:24.000 That's your son?

01:29:25.000 Aww.

01:29:26.000 He graduated last year.

01:29:28.000 Oh, that's okay.

01:29:29.000 I know you're telling me, I haven't, okay, I haven't quite since you asked me about like a What is it?

01:29:32.000 What is it?

01:29:33.000 This is something we don't do in the white community.

01:29:35.000 What about blind people wearing, like, shirts with, like, that, like, shirts of people on their shirts, and it'll have, like, like, a person? 0.86

01:29:41.000 Well... White people, like, it's just funny to us, because we never do it. 0.99

01:29:45.000 Unless it's, like, a family reunion.

01:29:45.000 Yeah.

01:29:47.000 I was gonna say, I don't even think I've seen one within a family reunion, a white family wearing anybody on their shirt.

01:29:56.000 Yeah.

01:29:57.000 Yeah, unless it's a gag.

01:29:58.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 Like a weird Christmas gift or something.

01:30:00.000 Yeah, it's like a bachelorette party.

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 It's like her throwing up in the toilet or something just to embarrass her.

01:30:05.000 I think, honestly, because we do it.

01:30:07.000 It could be for a funeral, a birthday party.

01:30:09.000 We really celebrate, you know what I'm saying?

01:30:11.000 When you want to remember the person and they feel special when your face is there.

01:30:15.000 That's how my daughter feels.

01:30:16.000 I have a 12-year-old daughter.

01:30:17.000 She wants her face in that tank. 1.00

01:30:19.000 She wants her face on her shirt. 1.00

01:30:20.000 She's just happy.

01:30:21.000 At funerals, they do it for remembering.

01:30:24.000 And they put the person's face on their shirt.

01:30:26.000 That's just for us.

01:30:29.000 Yeah, but then they keep wearing the shirt.

01:30:30.000 Yes.

01:30:31.000 Like three weeks later, a quick trip.

01:30:35.000 Yes, they will.

01:30:36.000 I've never been vegan on that show.

01:30:37.000 Me neither.

01:30:38.000 I don't wear dead people on me.

01:30:41.000 I don't.

01:30:42.000 Well, this is some money.

01:30:44.000 Right?

01:30:44.000 There you go.

01:30:45.000 Let's remember example, just a cultural difference where it's like, I know a lot of people want to ask, white people want to ask the question.

01:30:51.000 Like, I don't know if I'm going to be considered racist.

01:30:52.000 Like, this is something that's so foreign to us.

01:30:55.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 But as a black person, it's foreign and strange to me too.

01:30:59.000 That's just the way they do it.

01:31:01.000 Again, who am I to say anything?

01:31:03.000 So you're the odd one out at a birthday party where they're all wearing the shirt of like, whatever, Sandra, and you're like, no, I'm wearing a nice blouse.

01:31:11.000 Yeah, that's me.

01:31:11.000 I'm wearing a nice blouse.

01:31:12.000 Yeah.

01:31:12.000 I was going to say, first of all, I don't think I have any friends that would have a party that would require a shirt.

01:31:21.000 That had their face on it, so.

01:31:23.000 And if I'd had that kind of friend, then... Oh my god, I shouldn't say that.

01:31:26.000 I was about to say, I think I would have a problem.

01:31:28.000 Yeah, well, as I said, some people take it super seriously.

01:31:31.000 Like, you refuse to wear the shirt, you're gonna end up on Worldstar.

01:31:34.000 So, I... That's very strange.

01:31:37.000 No, I agree with you on the immigrant... No, that's something that we all would... And by the way, you know how else would agree?

01:31:42.000 A lot of legal Hispanic immigrants, too.

01:31:44.000 Who've learned the language.

01:31:46.000 Exactly!

01:31:46.000 Yeah.

01:31:47.000 The most racist person I know. 0.92

01:31:49.000 It's hilarious.

01:31:50.000 One of my best friends, he's my booking agent.

01:31:52.000 His name is William. 0.97

01:31:54.000 He's super gay. 0.99

01:31:56.000 He's Cuban. 0.98

01:31:57.000 And he's super right wing.

01:31:59.000 Like he's gay, but he's like, he's like, Oh my God, he's like, he's like, it's why it's so funny. 0.99

01:32:05.000 It's so funny.

01:32:06.000 Like, he's like, gosh, he's like, what is going on?

01:32:09.000 I have a bunch of gay friends.

01:32:10.000 None of these want to get married.

01:32:12.000 He's like, what are you talking about?

01:32:13.000 This is, and he really doesn't like Puerto Ricans because he's Cuban.

01:32:17.000 And I go, William, why do you, why do you, I grew up in New York in the 70s, and everyone thought I was Puerto Rican.

01:32:25.000 It was the most insulting thing in the world.

01:32:27.000 Do I look like Ricky Martin or a criminal?

01:32:29.000 No, I'm not Puerto Rican, I'm Cuban.

01:32:31.000 But he's learned English, and he's like, I can learn English. 0.74

01:32:34.000 He's like, my parents came here on a raft from Cuba to flee communism, and listen to me, he's like, I'm a gay, Cuban, conservative American, and I'm not, people need to stop ****ing, learn the language, go to work.

01:32:45.000 So, I appreciate him.

01:32:46.000 When I talk about it, people think I'm making them up.

01:32:49.000 Oh my gosh.

01:32:53.000 I would rather talk to an automated machine versus talking to them sometimes.

01:33:02.000 Oh, I know.

01:33:02.000 I'm going to try and fake you out.

01:33:04.000 Like, where are you from, Prakash?

01:33:06.000 Like, I'm calling from Savannah, Georgia. 1.00

01:33:08.000 Oh, you bullsh**. 1.00

01:33:10.000 Right. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Just tell me you're calling from a call center in Bangladesh where they chain you to a computer for nine hours a day and give you a piss break for four minutes. 1.00

01:33:18.000 And we'll be fine in this conversation.

01:33:19.000 I just don't want you to lie to me.

01:33:21.000 Yeah.

01:33:21.000 No, it is an issue.

01:33:23.000 And it's, again, another thing where I think people would find common ground, but that one's free.

01:33:27.000 Well, I think that we are over-accommodating them because you see, or, I mean, because there are just a lot more Mexicans here. 1.00

01:33:35.000 In Texas, everything is in Spanish now.

01:33:38.000 Yeah.

01:33:38.000 And it's like, what?

01:33:40.000 Why do I have to learn to speak your language when you're in America?

01:33:46.000 But, again, it's just, Everybody wants to have a conversation.

01:33:51.000 Everybody just wants everything to flow, you know, nice and easy.

01:33:54.000 Let's do this for them.

01:33:55.000 They're making it way too easy.

01:33:57.000 Yeah.

01:33:58.000 No.

01:33:59.000 No.

01:33:59.000 I agree with you.

01:34:00.000 All right, I'll let you go.

01:34:00.000 I'll let you go finish up.

01:34:03.000 Thank you, ladies.

01:34:03.000 Thanks for the conversation.

01:34:04.000 No, thank you.

01:34:05.000 I appreciate it.

01:34:05.000 That was fun.

01:34:06.000 Oh my gosh, my eyes are adjusting now coming out here.

01:34:09.000 How you doing?

01:34:11.000 What?

01:34:11.000 Okay.

01:34:11.000 All right.

01:34:12.000 When you come from back there, it's different.

01:34:14.000 Yeah, it is.

01:34:15.000 I'm just seeing like a silhouette.

01:34:17.000 It's like your eyes have to adjust.

01:34:20.000 So that's my theory on Nelly. 0.97

01:34:21.000 It's probably bullsh**, but... I gotta say it. 0.98

01:34:24.000 That's how rumors get started.

01:34:25.000 That's how rumors get started. 0.99

01:34:26.000 Lindsay Lohan wrote a song about that sh**. 0.99

01:34:30.000 But she's obnoxious, so... Remember, none of this is possible without you. 0.99

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Louder with Crowder - January 15, 2024

“It’s White B*tches!” | Black & White on the Gray Issues

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