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00:00:35.000 Some of the voter ID laws that we have seen, some situations where it is harder for minorities to vote in this country.

00:00:41.000 Instead of trying to appeal to diverse voters, you just rather try and block their votes?

00:00:45.000 This is nothing but punitive, designed to keep people from voting.

00:00:49.000 There are about five people in this entire group of people that are wearing masks.

00:00:53.000 And actually, this is a violation of SMU protocols.

00:00:56.000 All of you are in violation.

00:00:58.000 Isn't it beautiful?

00:01:00.000 It's a beautiful day.

00:01:02.000 I'm a stranger in the park. That's what I know.

00:01:31.000 I'm a stranger in the park. I'm a stranger in the park.

00:01:51.000 That is disgusting.

00:01:53.000 I was expecting something else, but because of our boycott of Coke, we can't have any Topo Chico, so I have something that tastes like cherry syrup put into old pond water.

00:02:02.000 Not bad.

00:02:03.000 Thank you, whoever served that to me.

00:02:06.000 We have a lot going on today.

00:02:07.000 Tomorrow we have the Change My Mind.

00:02:09.000 It's a rough start because apparently we've been banned from Shopify.

00:02:12.000 No reason given, just your political view.

00:02:14.000 I don't know, but CrowderShop.com is still up.

00:02:16.000 We've had to sort of jerry-rig it.

00:02:17.000 I'll update you tomorrow.

00:02:19.000 But today we are going to be live fact-checking the closing arguments for the Chauvin trial.

00:02:24.000 So let's go right now and see.

00:02:25.000 The judge is not wearing his turtle mask.

00:02:27.000 What is he talking about?

00:02:28.000 Aiding the commission of this crime.

00:02:31.000 The elements of the crime of murder in the second degree, while committing a felony, are... So on the last day of the trial, he's giving more instructions.

00:02:39.000 Well, I mean, this is before deliberation.

00:02:40.000 It's like after putting your bed that turns into a bookcase together, and I'm like, let me check out the Swedish instructions.

00:02:45.000 Schmargie fergie, oh well, it's useless now. 0.63

00:02:49.000 We have a great show.

00:02:51.000 We have Gerald A. here.

00:02:52.000 How are you?

00:02:52.000 I'm well.

00:02:53.000 You know the answer.

00:02:54.000 Never well.

00:02:54.000 How are you, Quarterback Garrett?

00:02:55.000 I'm doing good so far.

00:02:57.000 Yeah, well, you know what?

00:02:58.000 Your people were set back a little bit at that Jake Paul fight.

00:03:02.000 We have Ben Askren on the show, by the way.

00:03:03.000 Ben Askren, you just lost to Jake Paul in unceremonious fashion.

00:03:11.000 Thank you.

00:03:12.000 But we have a lot to talk about with him.

00:03:13.000 And then Dave Landau.

00:03:14.000 Landau Davis here.

00:03:15.000 How are you?

00:03:15.000 Ahoy, I'm good.

00:03:16.000 How about you?

00:03:17.000 You know, people missed you when you were gone.

00:03:19.000 I had a lot of fans come out, though.

00:03:21.000 And they were awesome.

00:03:22.000 They brought me candy.

00:03:23.000 Yeah.

00:03:24.000 Someone brought you a fake Cuban for me?

00:03:24.000 And cigars.

00:03:26.000 A fake Cuban? 1.00

00:03:27.000 That's how I know you love me.

00:03:29.000 It could be real.

00:03:30.000 It was Florida. 0.89

00:03:30.000 No, the guy who gave it to me, he was a white guy, clearly in brownface. 0.89

00:03:34.000 And he's like, I'm a fake Cuban. 0.96

00:03:35.000 This is a fake Cuban. 1.00

00:03:36.000 You don't even look like Cuban. 1.00

00:03:37.000 You look Dominican. 0.93

00:03:38.000 Really?

00:03:39.000 I'm out of here. 1.00

00:03:39.000 Dammit. 1.00

00:03:41.000 They all wear Tommy Bahamas. 1.00

00:03:42.000 Wouldn't trust his double Corona.

00:03:44.000 So look, before we go on here to the trial, we have a lot to get to as far as Maxine Waters.

00:03:49.000 The cities have been burning, obviously, across the country.

00:03:52.000 We want to set some context here as to This is the tone, the tenor, right?

00:03:58.000 You had Rodney King, you had O.J.

00:04:00.000 This is kind of a reverse O.J.

00:04:02.000 in this case.

00:04:03.000 Actually, Austin said that.

00:04:04.000 It's a bit of a reverse O.J.

00:04:05.000 in that everyone is terrified that if they don't convict this guy of guilty, there are going to be riots.

00:04:09.000 With O.J., if they convict him guilty, there might be riots.

00:04:13.000 But first, before we get to any of that, we do have Ben Askren, Olympian, multiple-time world champion, lost to Jake Paul.

00:04:18.000 He'll be on a little bit later.

00:04:19.000 However, this was a fight where he was fighting Jake Paul on pay-per-view.

00:04:24.000 And I, look, I've heard of people being out of touch with the youth culture and or urban culture.

00:04:30.000 Yeah.

00:04:31.000 But all it was was humping and gyrating.

00:04:34.000 And I can't even show you the worst of it.

00:04:36.000 So we'll talk with with Ben Askren about it.

00:04:39.000 But I think we have a montage to give you a general idea.

00:04:41.000 It was like 90% this and 10% fighting.

00:04:43.000 This is during the fight?

00:04:45.000 It was, there were no fights.

00:04:46.000 Right before.

00:04:47.000 There were very, very few fights.

00:04:48.000 I thought, what an odd fighting style that would be.

00:04:51.000 The booty class.

00:04:53.000 For 30 minutes, and then so weedy, and then something doggy, and then Justin Bieber ironically earned the respect of all Americans in being the least offensive part of that broadcast.

00:05:02.000 Here's a montage just so you have a little idea and we're trying to keep it family friendly.

00:05:06.000 Those pants didn't stay on. 0.99

00:05:16.000 Yeah, she took her pants off afterward. 1.00

00:05:19.000 And that jacket came off.

00:05:21.000 And that was with the jacket on.

00:05:32.000 By the way, she could totally be Rachel Dolezal-ing us, I have no idea.

00:05:34.000 When she was yelling the N-word, I'm like, I don't think I feel comfortable with this.

00:05:34.000 Who knows?

00:05:38.000 No, it's like when Tekashi69 says it, you're like, you don't get to do that.

00:05:42.000 You don't get to do this.

00:05:44.000 I am not, look, I'm not, if you have kids here, I'm not exaggerating.

00:05:47.000 This lady comes out in a mesh bodysuit, and we're gonna fact check the trial here. 1.00

00:05:50.000 Look, his thing is, he doesn't have, I can't recognize him without the turtle shell.

00:05:53.000 I know.

00:05:54.000 She comes out wearing a mesh bodysuit.

00:05:55.000 I'm not even talking about Victoria's Secret, Fredericks of Hollywood.

00:05:58.000 I'm talking about, like, you know, you pull off the side of the road, and it's what used to be a warehouse that says, you know, like, Mr. Bindi's Naughty Treats.

00:06:06.000 She's wearing this.

00:06:07.000 She does the twerk. 1.00

00:06:08.000 There's a guy, a black gentleman, person of color, colored people, whatever you say, and his catchphrase is, Bitch! 1.00

00:06:16.000 He just keeps yelling that into the microphone. 1.00

00:06:17.000 So she's twerking on his groin. 1.00

00:06:19.000 He's going, Bitch! 1.00

00:06:20.000 Then she stands up, turns to the camera, grabs her butt cheeks with her fingers and spreads them 1.00

00:06:26.000 like a rectal exam. 0.91

00:06:27.000 I just wonder, look, and I know everyone has said this from every generation, but can we

00:06:31.000 at least acknowledge Elvis' hips?

00:06:33.000 I wanna hold your hand.

00:06:36.000 We don't know what they're saying. 0.99

00:06:37.000 Even back to Salt-N-Pepa, like push it good to lick my man hand, give me your busted nut. 1.00

00:06:42.000 And then pulling your butt cheeks apart. 1.00

00:06:45.000 How are you gonna? 0.97

00:06:45.000 Give your kids you can give your kids a curfew like I told you eight o'clock like hey mom Is this not you spreading your butt cheeks? 0.97

00:06:53.000 Yeah, I have more evidence actually well in fairness though Elvis did spread his butt cheeks wide open for Jailhouse Rock There was a whole shower scene they didn't show it's the part that I never loved to tell you about but I think he fared well because he does jiu-jitsu man and It's empowering, Steven.

00:07:09.000 That's what you're missing.

00:07:10.000 It's empowering for one to do that.

00:07:13.000 What made you think that you could do that? 0.99

00:07:15.000 You told me to play with your genitals without asking, and I took it at face value. 0.99

00:07:15.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:07:20.000 Can you imagine getting that dancing break after you've been working your whole life?

00:07:24.000 You're like, all right, we're just going to all do this in unison.

00:07:26.000 And you're like, so you want me to what?

00:07:28.000 You want me to fornicate the stage? 1.00

00:07:31.000 That's right.

00:07:31.000 What's she singing about?

00:07:32.000 He's singing about playing with her.

00:07:33.000 And what's he singing about?

00:07:34.000 Busting nuts.

00:07:35.000 Oh! 0.60

00:07:36.000 Is there an age restriction?

00:07:38.000 Is there an age restriction on this pay-per-view?

00:07:39.000 No, none at all.

00:07:40.000 Also, Snoop Dogg and Oscar De La Hoya are going to be high as a kite.

00:07:42.000 Oscar De La Hoya, I followed his Olympic career.

00:07:44.000 I did too.

00:07:45.000 It's just like, he's sitting there and he was so high and so drunk.

00:07:48.000 He's going, GO BABY! 0.99

00:07:50.000 GO THE USSR BABY! 0.96

00:07:51.000 The guy was a fighter who was on a Navy ship, the USSFA.

00:07:55.000 So he had no part of it.

00:07:56.000 He's like, USSR BABY! 1.00

00:07:57.000 USSR BABY!

00:08:01.000 So, by the way, you can follow me on Instagram, louderwithcrowder is on Instagram.

00:08:04.000 This is a live show Monday through Thursday, 10 a.m.

00:08:07.000 And the best thing you can do is comment.

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00:08:09.000 We're going to have some questions here for you today.

00:08:12.000 Let me ask you this.

00:08:13.000 Where do you think it's going to be the crappiest as far as the riots this week?

00:08:16.000 And do you think that there's any scenario where we don't get riots?

00:08:22.000 If they decide first-degree murder, maybe.

00:08:26.000 Yeah, but this is an exception to the rules, so... Molotov cocktail.

00:08:31.000 I always hated Dr. Scholz, anyway.

00:08:34.000 I know that wasn't a question for me to answer, but I'm gonna answer anyway.

00:08:34.000 I'm gonna take Portland.

00:08:36.000 I'm gonna take Portland.

00:08:37.000 They've been warming up for a while.

00:08:39.000 They've tried to stay in shape for rioting.

00:08:41.000 You can't just go out and riot randomly.

00:08:42.000 You have to be ready.

00:08:44.000 Also, the average temperature of Portland has increased by 1.4 degrees.

00:08:49.000 Not carbon monoxide.

00:08:49.000 Well, technically.

00:08:50.000 It's burning.

00:08:51.000 It's due to all the fires.

00:08:52.000 Due to all the arsonry.

00:08:54.000 They want to keep it warm.

00:08:55.000 So they're still giving the instructions here, and you guys can let us know what the hashtag is trending as far as the defense.

00:09:01.000 We're going to be live fact-checking it.

00:09:02.000 We have fact-checkers here.

00:09:03.000 But before this, I wanted to talk about something.

00:09:05.000 Brian Stelter was cornered by one of the Project Veritas guys, and I caught something, but it's not what you think.

00:09:12.000 It's not like it's this huge scandal, but something that I think is a bigger scandal.

00:09:18.000 See if you spot it first.

00:09:18.000 Here you go.

00:09:19.000 Here's the clip from Project Veritas with Brian Super Straight Stelter.

00:09:22.000 Do you think it's gonna be just, like, a lot of, like, fear?

00:09:25.000 Climate.

00:09:26.000 Yeah, fear sells.

00:09:27.000 Fear sells.

00:09:28.000 Does fear sell?

00:09:29.000 Is Charlie Chester still employed at CNN?

00:09:31.000 I feel really bad for you.

00:09:33.000 Is Charlie Chester still employed at CNN?

00:09:35.000 I feel really bad for you.

00:09:37.000 Why do you feel bad for me?

00:09:38.000 We're journalists.

00:09:39.000 Why do you feel bad for me?

00:09:39.000 Okay.

00:09:41.000 Are you a journalist?

00:09:41.000 Are you able to report anything that's not directly handed down?

00:09:44.000 I report whatever I want.

00:09:45.000 I report whatever I want!

00:09:47.000 Are you crying?

00:09:47.000 Yes.

00:09:48.000 No, I'm not crying.

00:09:49.000 Here's the thing.

00:09:50.000 Why is no one else talking about the fact that Brian Stelter carries a purse?

00:09:55.000 Look, that is a purse. 1.00

00:09:56.000 Some people were trying to... That is absolutely a purse.

00:09:59.000 It's a man bag.

00:09:59.000 That's a purse.

00:10:00.000 It's a European man bag.

00:10:02.000 You gotta keep your CPAP machine in something.

00:10:06.000 Look at that guy.

00:10:07.000 There's no way.

00:10:07.000 He uses it while he's awake.

00:10:08.000 Just for a little pick-me-up.

00:10:11.000 Need the energy to pay out all this nuisance money!

00:10:13.000 So this is absolutely a purse.

00:10:14.000 My brain doesn't need oxygen.

00:10:15.000 Yes.

00:10:16.000 It's absolutely a purse.

00:10:17.000 Some people are trying to argue.

00:10:18.000 No, look.

00:10:19.000 So we are going to conduct, uh, this is really not so much an experiment, but a showcase for you.

00:10:25.000 Okay.

00:10:25.000 Because I stand by this.

00:10:27.000 So now it's time for, uh, bringing out even Brendan.

00:10:30.000 Purse test, murst test.

00:10:33.000 Straight.

00:10:33.000 Yes.

00:10:34.000 Even Brendan is here.

00:10:34.000 All right.

00:10:36.000 So, Even Brendan, let's start with the briefcase.

00:10:39.000 So this is the briefcase.

00:10:39.000 Okay?

00:10:40.000 People are trying to say, well, he's carrying a briefcase.

00:10:42.000 You cannot put that in your elbow, you know, like a lady, like a lady boy. 1.00

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 Doesn't work.

00:10:47.000 Doesn't work.

00:10:48.000 You do not carry a briefcase in your... First off, no straight man carries anything in the crooks of their elbow.

00:10:52.000 Nobody.

00:10:54.000 Not even straight women. 0.99

00:10:55.000 No. 0.97

00:10:57.000 Just gay men do that. 1.00

00:11:00.000 Turn to your side here. 0.99

00:11:01.000 Let's see.

00:11:02.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 Can you bring up the picture again of Brian Stelter there?

00:11:04.000 Look.

00:11:05.000 Look at the way he's holding it.

00:11:06.000 Very comfortably.

00:11:06.000 It's in his elbow.

00:11:07.000 That's not... But let's do it also with a gym bag because I want to go through all of these where some people are saying, well, it could be any of the above.

00:11:12.000 It could be a gym bag.

00:11:13.000 That also is not true.

00:11:15.000 But yeah, use the actual strap here with the gym bag because it's a strap that he has.

00:11:18.000 He's not using handles.

00:11:20.000 Put that in the crux of your elbow.

00:11:22.000 I think they said he was carrying Jim's bag.

00:11:25.000 He was carrying Jim's bag on his way to service Jim's bag.

00:11:30.000 So there you go.

00:11:31.000 There you go.

00:11:32.000 Look, is it a controlled experiment?

00:11:35.000 Not exactly, but it's enough.

00:11:36.000 Brian Stelter, Nuisance Money, carries a purse.

00:11:38.000 Thank you, Evan Brennan.

00:11:39.000 This has been... Purse Test, Murst Test.

00:11:43.000 Straight.

00:11:44.000 He should wear a cloth mask because he does look like he's in the hospital.

00:11:48.000 He really does, yes.

00:11:49.000 Sir, are you about to pass?

00:11:51.000 No.

00:11:51.000 It looks like if Tom Hanks was just really dedicated in Philadelphia to gaining weight.

00:11:55.000 Oh, yes.

00:11:56.000 Do you know AIDS will give you 70 extra pounds?

00:11:59.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:59.000 Wow.

00:12:02.000 That's what's in the bag, all his medication.

00:12:04.000 All right.

00:12:05.000 Okay, so look, they're not talking yet about the trial.

00:12:08.000 They're not doing their closing argument.

00:12:09.000 So let's start with this.

00:12:09.000 Let's set the stage a little bit here.

00:12:11.000 Last night, or two nights ago, was this weekend's 60 Minutes.

00:12:15.000 Beacon of news.

00:12:17.000 Truth.

00:12:17.000 Beacon of true news.

00:12:18.000 Authoritative.

00:12:20.000 After we saw what happened with DeSantis.

00:12:23.000 Basically, when they did that, they didn't realize they were spreading their cheeks on live television.

00:12:28.000 This is gonna hurt!

00:12:29.000 They aired a documentary right now on far-right Oath Keepers, so this is what the left wants you to focus on.

00:12:35.000 Here you go, just to set up this context.

00:12:36.000 Our guys are very experienced.

00:12:38.000 We have active-duty law enforcement in our organization that are helping to train us.

00:12:44.000 We can blend in with our law enforcement.

00:12:46.000 In fact, in a lot of cases, our training is much more advanced because of our military backgrounds.

00:12:51.000 There's nothing I love more than my AR-15 and my chainsaw, and I don't know which one I like more.

00:12:57.000 Jim Arroyo invited us to a meeting to see for ourselves.

00:13:00.000 The crowd, mostly retirees, meet twice a month to talk about how to survive disasters like forest fires, attacks on the power grid, and civil war.

00:13:12.000 So that's why we talk about civil unrest, civil war.

00:13:16.000 It's not a joke.

00:13:18.000 This can happen.

00:13:19.000 and we need to be ready for...

00:13:20.000 I don't think they know, but they just inadvertently made the Oath Keepers seem entirely reasonable.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, that seems like my dad's phrase.

00:13:26.000 Hey look, forest fires!

00:13:27.000 Well, those have happened.

00:13:28.000 California, disasters.

00:13:30.000 Well, we've had Hurricane Harvey, we've had disasters.

00:13:32.000 Civil unrest, $2 billion in damages, thousands of arrests. 0.99

00:13:36.000 So it sounds to me like they're just saying, you know, maybe keep your crap together. 0.98

00:13:40.000 But they want you to fear the right-wing militia, right? 0.99

00:13:42.000 They want you to fear the right-wing extremists.

00:13:44.000 Meanwhile, this weekend, Portland has been burning down.

00:13:48.000 Here's just a brief montage.

00:13:50.000 Mostly peaceful.

00:13:57.000 the world.

00:14:00.000 The building's mostly not on fire.

00:14:04.000 I would say it's mostly not peaceful. 0.99

00:14:09.000 I hate you all.

00:14:14.000 I just, like, how do you let them get that much laneage? 0.98

00:14:17.000 I know.

00:14:19.000 I know that's not a word, but just, you know, I mean, just, like, put a push bumper on your cop car.

00:14:23.000 Something.

00:14:23.000 Do something at that point.

00:14:24.000 You know what they're gonna do?

00:14:25.000 They're gonna burn stuff down.

00:14:28.000 And here's something else too.

00:14:29.000 I want to be clear about something.

00:14:30.000 The back, the blue.

00:14:31.000 Look.

00:14:33.000 I think that conservatives need to acknowledge, and we've been talking about this, and sometimes people get mad when you say, well, not all police officers are corruption-free.

00:14:39.000 We know this.

00:14:40.000 Particularly when you look at their support, and they're unwilling to address the actual extremists who are burning towns down.

00:14:46.000 So this weekend there was a guy named Larry McFarland.

00:14:48.000 He fired his shotgun into the sky.

00:14:51.000 He took out a shotgun, pointed it at the crowd of people, and fired it into the sky.

00:14:54.000 Joe Biden's advice.

00:14:54.000 Yeah, Joe Biden's advice.

00:14:56.000 Except it was supposed to be on your porch.

00:14:58.000 And then your dog bites you.

00:15:00.000 Not like that!

00:15:00.000 Gunshot!

00:15:01.000 Major! 0.99

00:15:03.000 And then you pull up the stairs and shit your pants. 0.98

00:15:06.000 Simultaneously.

00:15:08.000 And then Jill turns on the microwave and you forget where you are for a few seconds.

00:15:12.000 Is that plate right here?

00:15:13.000 Because my hair ain't gonna look right.

00:15:16.000 And then the media referred to the rioters as anti-police protesters in that story.

00:15:21.000 He was arrested, charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

00:15:25.000 Here's something else, too, really quickly.

00:15:26.000 Let me see what they're talking about on CNN, then I want to get to Maxine Waters.

00:15:29.000 Is this their closing argument?

00:15:33.000 Come on! 0.61

00:15:36.000 That's not a very good one.

00:15:38.000 Members of the jury.

00:15:42.000 His name was George Perry Floyd Jr.

00:15:49.000 and he was born on October 14, 1973 in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

00:15:59.000 To his parents, George Floyd Sr.

00:16:05.000 And Larcenia Jones Floyd. 0.59

00:16:08.000 Is he going to have TLC come out?

00:16:09.000 Say my name, say my name. 0.67

00:16:11.000 Well, two of the three of them.

00:16:12.000 We met George Floyd's brother, Philonise, and you heard all about Sissy Floyd.

00:16:20.000 She was George Floyd's mom.

00:16:22.000 She was the mom of the house.

00:16:24.000 She was the mom of the neighborhood.

00:16:26.000 I don't want no scrub.

00:16:27.000 And you heard about the special bond.

00:16:29.000 Don't get no love from me.

00:16:30.000 No.

00:16:31.000 That she and George Floyd shared.

00:16:33.000 Really quickly, let me just show you something real quick before we go to this, because right now he's just setting it up.

00:16:37.000 Yeah.

00:16:38.000 If you want to talk about violence in the streets, and I'm telling you, everyone be ready.

00:16:40.000 Be ready to protect your family.

00:16:42.000 I'm not talking about going out and waging any violence yourself, but be ready to protect your house and home.

00:16:46.000 Because Maxine Waters and the left, they have been actively encouraging violence.

00:16:50.000 I don't mean in veiled terms.

00:16:52.000 Yeah.

00:16:52.000 I mean in blatant terms.

00:16:53.000 This happened this week and Maxine Waters in Minnesota talking about what protesters should do.

00:16:58.000 This is what you need to be ready for.

00:16:59.000 They're trying to intimidate the jury.

00:17:01.000 This is Clipsey.

00:17:02.000 Fight for justice, but I am very hopeful and I hope that we're going to get a verdict that will say guilty, guilty, guilty.

00:17:13.000 And if we don't, we cannot go away.

00:17:16.000 And not just manslaughter, right?

00:17:17.000 I mean... Oh no, not manslaughter.

00:17:19.000 No, no, no.

00:17:20.000 This is guilty for murder.

00:17:22.000 I don't know whether it's in the first degree, but as far as I'm concerned, it's first degree murder.

00:17:26.000 Congressman, what happens if we do not get what you just told?

00:17:29.000 What should the people do?

00:17:30.000 What should protesters on the street do?

00:17:31.000 I didn't hear you.

00:17:33.000 What should protesters do?

00:17:35.000 We've got to stay on the street and we've got to get more active.

00:17:40.000 We've got to get more confrontational.

00:17:42.000 We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

00:17:47.000 And by the way, only a couple hours later there was a drive-by shooting in Minnesota on National Guard police.

00:17:53.000 Here you go.

00:17:54.000 Here's a quick clip.

00:17:55.000 Well, National Guard troops providing security for residents in the area of Penn Avenue and Broadway in Minneapolis this morning were shot at at 4.19 a.m.

00:18:02.000 It's like a dead, raggedy endoff.

00:18:04.000 The guards said the gunshots came from a white SUV towards a Minnesota National Guard and Minneapolis police team providing neighborhood security in that area.

00:18:13.000 The two National Guard troops suffered minor injuries.

00:18:16.000 One National Guard member had to go to a hospital for treatment of lacerations from shattered glass.

00:18:22.000 And final thing I want to show before we go here to the closing arguments and then cover it live.

00:18:26.000 This is not the first time.

00:18:27.000 Look, if Donald Trump was kicked off of all big tech platforms and people try to say that he incited violence, Maxine Waters needs to be federally charged and impeached. 0.72

00:18:37.000 This is not the first time that this has happened.

00:18:40.000 Here's just a few of her greatest hits.

00:18:42.000 Clippy.

00:18:44.000 And we fight.

00:18:46.000 We fight like hell.

00:18:47.000 And if you don't fight like hell, the people are going to turn on them.

00:18:50.000 They're going to protest.

00:18:52.000 They're going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they're going to tell the president, no, I can't hang with you.

00:19:00.000 Harass them, she said.

00:19:01.000 I will go and take Trump out tonight.

00:19:03.000 Oh, that's to a nice dinner.

00:19:11.000 Who sang no peace, no sleep.

00:19:13.000 You see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station.

00:19:22.000 You get out and you create a crowd.

00:19:24.000 And you push back on them.

00:19:27.000 And you tell them they're not welcome.

00:19:30.000 That sounds familiar.

00:19:31.000 Your kind's not welcome around here. 0.99

00:19:34.000 People wonder why Gina Carano compared the, saying, hey, look, she didn't compare being Republican to being a Jew in the Holocaust. 0.71

00:19:39.000 She said, how did it start?

00:19:41.000 They got their fellow citizens to tell on them, to snitch on them, to round them up for the government.

00:19:47.000 That's what she was talking about.

00:19:49.000 Now, if Donald Trump gets in trouble for saying, fight like hell, and then telling them to protest peacefully, keep in mind, too, when Donald Trump said that, that was a group of hundreds of thousands of people.

00:19:56.000 There had never been A massive violent right-wing protest.

00:20:00.000 It didn't exist.

00:20:01.000 Maxine Waters was amidst the city's burning and said, more confrontational.

00:20:07.000 Tell them they're not welcome.

00:20:08.000 This was after billions of dollars in damages and dozens of people killed and hundreds of officer casualties.

00:20:15.000 Maxine Waters has seen the violence, has seen the carnage and has encouraged it.

00:20:19.000 And even worse, none of the other Democrats have said anything.

00:20:22.000 They've all fallen silent because they want this jury right now to convict.

00:20:26.000 They are trying to, wherever you line up, What we do have to agree upon is in this justice system, you cannot have coercion with what's supposed to be an independent jury.

00:20:36.000 Okay, let's go to these closing arguments.

00:20:40.000 A grown man crying out for his mother.

00:20:44.000 No, he was crying out for his cracked-out girlfriend, Mama. 0.83

00:20:47.000 That's how she was listed in his cell phone, by the way.

00:20:51.000 Doesn't mean it's less sad, it just means that he right now knowingly lied.

00:20:55.000 A lawyer?

00:20:56.000 No.

00:20:56.000 What's this world coming to?

00:20:57.000 Honestly, this all sucks. 0.95

00:20:58.000 Well, what, like every COVID patient this year? 0.97

00:21:02.000 Right.

00:21:02.000 Without any of their loved ones?

00:21:03.000 He was surrounded by strangers. 0.99

00:21:03.000 Sucks. 0.99

00:21:06.000 Strangers. 1.00

00:21:08.000 All of them.

00:21:09.000 Nine minutes and 29.

00:21:11.000 What?

00:21:12.000 Like every COVID patient this year?

00:21:14.000 Without any of their loved ones.

00:21:14.000 Right.

00:21:15.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.000 Not a familiar face to say his final words.

00:21:18.000 But he did say them to someone.

00:21:23.000 He said them to someone who he did not know by name, but he knew him from the

00:21:31.000 uniform he wore and the badge he wore.

00:21:35.000 Hey, by the way, this is also false because, remember, they tried to say that they worked at the same club together and that Derek Chauvin was out to get him.

00:21:42.000 Remember?

00:21:43.000 Was racially motivated because they worked at the same club and now they're saying he didn't know anyone?

00:21:47.000 Didn't know him, he called him officer.

00:21:48.000 Which is it?

00:21:53.000 George Floyd's final words on May 25, 2020 were, please, I can't breathe.

00:22:03.000 Okay, let's bring that clip that we have.

00:22:04.000 We have a clip, I don't know which clip it is, of him saying that he couldn't breathe when he was back in the car.

00:22:10.000 I believe that that was, uh, hold on a second.

00:22:12.000 Can someone tell me which... I'm looking it up.

00:22:14.000 Can someone tell me which clip that is?

00:22:16.000 He said it several times, too, right, before going to the ground.

00:22:19.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 Clip P. Clip P he was saying long before he went to the ground.

00:22:22.000 He was saying it before he had made it to the ground.

00:22:24.000 He was saying it in the car while getting in the car.

00:22:26.000 Clip P.

00:22:27.000 Floyd maintained or stated that he could not breathe while in the prone position?

00:22:32.000 That is correct, sir.

00:22:33.000 He stated that before ever being in the prone position as well, correct?

00:22:39.000 That is correct, sir.

00:22:40.000 Several times, correct?

00:22:42.000 That is correct, sir.

00:22:44.000 At that point when he stated that he can't breathe and he's in the back seat of the car, there was no one on his back, right?

00:22:50.000 That is correct, sir.

00:22:52.000 And do you know whether at that point there's any evidence to suggest that there was a respiratory depressant such as fentanyl on board in his system?

00:23:02.000 No, sir.

00:23:03.000 So again, just letting you know, this false narrative, called for his mother, no he didn't, called for his girlfriend, who would do drugs with him, and his last words were, those were his words leading up until his requests to be put on the ground.

00:23:15.000 That matters, that changes context.

00:23:18.000 On that day.

00:23:20.000 No courage was required.

00:23:23.000 All that was required was a little compassion.

00:23:27.000 You gonna cry?

00:23:28.000 None was shown on that day.

00:23:33.000 Don't do that, Dave.

00:23:34.000 George Floyd said, I'm not crying.

00:23:35.000 This was a call about a counterfeit $20 bill.

00:23:37.000 you know he doesn't cry.

00:23:49.000 It was a call because he gave a $20 counterfeit bill.

00:23:52.000 It was a kid at the shop who could see that he was likely high out of his mind, knew it was a counterfeit $20 bill, was intimidated, and kindly approached George Floyd two times to either give him back the pack of cigarettes or the $20.

00:24:05.000 In which scenario, George Floyd bullied the kid and brushed him off.

00:24:10.000 And so the kid, who felt guilty for calling the cops, not wanting to lose an hour of his pay, said, look, this guy is giving out counterfeit $20 bills.

00:24:18.000 That's what happened.

00:24:19.000 That's what happened.

00:24:21.000 It wasn't just a counterfeit $20.

00:24:22.000 He was bullying a kid.

00:24:23.000 And he had several opportunities to make it right.

00:24:26.000 I do agree with you there, and the first time that they went in with a counterfeit 20, his friend, if it was about a counterfeit 20, the cops would have been called then.

00:24:37.000 Yeah, it wasn't that.

00:24:38.000 At that point, the kid is losing $40 of his pay.

00:24:41.000 It's not, yeah.

00:24:42.000 This assault, when he was unable to speak, the defendant continued.

00:24:50.000 When he was unable to breathe, the defendant continued beyond the

00:24:54.000 point that he had a pulse.

00:24:56.000 Beyond the point that he had a pulse, the defendant continued this assault.

00:25:02.000 Nine minutes and 29 seconds.

00:25:06.000 When the ambulance arrived, the ambulance was here.

00:25:12.000 Now he's talking about the fight.

00:25:16.000 No, that's not true.

00:25:18.000 He stayed on him, restraining him, until he could hand him over to the paramedics.

00:25:23.000 That's what you do.

00:25:24.000 fight down he had no pulse he stayed on him restraining him until he could hand

00:25:33.000 him over to the paramedics yeah that's what you do paramedics are not trained

00:25:37.000 to restrain somebody who's that large and has a history of violence yeah what

00:25:43.000 Wait like, oh, paramedics are here, alright, get up.

00:25:45.000 Then you end up like the scenario with the female cop yelling taser, taser, taser.

00:25:47.000 The guy's going, oh, this is a weak female who has no business being on the force. 1.00

00:25:50.000 Here's my chance for a break.

00:25:51.000 What do you think they're going to do with paramedics who have no training in subduing an assailant?

00:25:58.000 That woman has a nice briefcase. 1.00

00:26:00.000 Mr. Floyd onto that gurney and you saw... Stelter's eyeing it.

00:26:00.000 Yes.

00:26:05.000 The way he was not... Stelter case.

00:26:05.000 Yes.

00:26:11.000 Is she a stenographer?

00:26:13.000 To prevent it from falling to the ground, he was completely limp.

00:26:17.000 The defendant had to know that.

00:26:20.000 He was there.

00:26:21.000 He was on top of him.

00:26:23.000 And he was on top of him.

00:26:28.000 On top of him.

00:26:30.000 Sometimes you ask for the truth, sometimes you insist.

00:26:32.000 You'd rather the officer be beneath him?

00:26:33.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 But where's an officer supposed to be when waiting for paramedics?

00:26:38.000 Spooning?

00:26:47.000 The medical examiner would find the cause of George Floyd's death to be cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint and neck compression.

00:27:04.000 What you saw the defendant and the other officers doing to George Floyd caused his death.

00:27:13.000 The medical examiner ruled the death a homicide.

00:27:18.000 Again, we've been really clear about this.

00:27:20.000 I don't even have this in front of me.

00:27:21.000 For people who haven't been following this and you don't know, if you're just tuning into this for the first time, they have to rule it something as far as a cause of death.

00:27:27.000 Homicide, it's not a criminal term.

00:27:29.000 It means that it involved, it was a death that involved someone else there.

00:27:32.000 Yeah.

00:27:32.000 That doesn't mean homicide in the way that you know it to be, and they actually had the witnesses testify, and they were very clear about that.

00:27:38.000 So they know right now, they're throwing this out, so people go, oh, homicide!

00:27:41.000 I watched CSI Miami!

00:27:43.000 No, I know what I'm talking about.

00:27:43.000 Yeah!

00:27:45.000 It's murder!

00:27:46.000 Homicide means he died in the presence of someone else.

00:27:46.000 No.

00:27:49.000 Even if it was a drug overdose and the officer had him in the back of the car, that's a homicide.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, that's why I said don't say it.

00:27:54.000 Yeah, I know.

00:27:55.000 A second ago and then... But he said it!

00:27:56.000 Doing something like this.

00:27:57.000 Wasn't hearing ya.

00:28:00.000 Remember, in jury selection, we talked about bias and we talked about setting biases and preconceived notions behind.

00:28:09.000 Did they show it again?

00:28:10.000 Well, imagining a police officer committing a crime might be the most difficult thing you have to set aside, because that's just not the way we think of police officers.

00:28:21.000 Why are you hiding in a pond with box turtles?

00:28:24.000 It makes it hard to find you, Waldo.

00:28:26.000 We believe the police are going to respond to our call for help.

00:28:30.000 I poured chemicals on myself and I'm not a mutant.

00:28:33.000 I've just done a lot of damage to my body.

00:28:35.000 This is strong.

00:28:35.000 This runs deep.

00:28:36.000 It's difficult to set this aside.

00:28:38.000 I want you to consider that even after, with the bystanders, after they saw what they saw, after they saw this shocking display of abuse of police power and a man murdered in front of them, Genevieve Hanson, She called the police.

00:28:58.000 Donald Williams, he saw this.

00:29:00.000 You heard him.

00:29:01.000 He testified.

00:29:02.000 He called the police.

00:29:05.000 A nine-year-old.

00:29:07.000 Judea.

00:29:09.000 What did she suggest?

00:29:11.000 We need to call the police.

00:29:13.000 On the police.

00:29:15.000 That's our expectation.

00:29:16.000 Even after seeing this.

00:29:17.000 Even after witnessing this.

00:29:19.000 Our expectation is that the police are going to help.

00:29:24.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:29:25.000 Isn't that predicated on the fact that the police are going to help victims?

00:29:30.000 Not the criminals.

00:29:31.000 So in this case, let's be clear.

00:29:32.000 The victim was a kid who had two counterfeit 20s, who called the cops, just wanted it to be... And then he had an unruly, super, super high, violent George Floyd.

00:29:40.000 Just like when we talk about Jacob Blake.

00:29:42.000 To protect us.

00:29:43.000 To protect the woman who was sexually assaulted, who called the cops because he violated a restraining order.

00:29:47.000 We've lost... This is how you end up with a Dirty Harry or a Charles Bronson.

00:29:51.000 You end up with a scenario where the police, right, they've had their teeth taken out, they've been defunded, and you end up where...

00:29:56.000 Society says, we want a cop who does things his own way because he's skyrocketing crime like we're seeing right now.

00:30:01.000 Oh, so it's the police's job to take care of the assailant before the victim.

00:30:07.000 And this is how they change it.

00:30:08.000 Look, George Floyd had a long rap sheet.

00:30:10.000 He had a long rap sheet of being violent.

00:30:12.000 He had been arrested before multiple times.

00:30:14.000 He had spent time in prison.

00:30:15.000 He was committing a crime.

00:30:16.000 He bullied a kid.

00:30:17.000 And then at that point, they were very nice with him initially.

00:30:20.000 Telling him to get in the car, freaking out, and now they have to deal with an assailant.

00:30:25.000 They weren't called because George Floyd was the victim.

00:30:28.000 Now, if they'd have come in and kneeled on the kid and roughed him up, that would be different.

00:30:32.000 That's not what happened in this scenario.

00:30:33.000 That's not what happened with Jacob Blake.

00:30:35.000 That's not what happened... I mean, you can go down the list.

00:30:37.000 It's never what happens.

00:30:39.000 Almost all of these scenarios involve officers dealing with the committer of crime, and then it gets complicated.

00:30:47.000 We need to keep that in mind.

00:30:49.000 Because it doesn't mean that anyone deserves to die, just to be clear.

00:30:52.000 George Floyd did not deserve to die, okay? 0.81

00:30:55.000 Jacob Blake, I would argue at that point, look, you're reaching for a knife, kinda dude deserved to die at that point.

00:30:59.000 However, anytime you are committing a crime and you actively and violently resist arrest, you are consciously forfeiting your right to live because you now understand that the odds of a complication go up.

00:31:11.000 Yeah.

00:31:12.000 And that's something we need to be teaching everybody watching, is if you commit a crime and you actively resist arrest, which is now, you're now committing another crime, usually a violent crime, right?

00:31:22.000 If you're resisting arrest, you forfeit your right to live in the sense that you have to accept the ramifications of those actions.

00:31:28.000 It shouldn't happen, but accidents happen.

00:31:31.000 And if you disagree with that, you're saying that the officer doesn't have a right to go home to their family that night.

00:31:36.000 Exactly.

00:31:37.000 Exactly.

00:31:37.000 That's what you're telling him.

00:31:38.000 Alright, let's go back to this professional liar. 0.88

00:31:41.000 That's not true. 0.97

00:31:51.000 That's a lie.

00:31:51.000 That's not true.

00:31:52.000 Can someone bring that up?

00:31:52.000 We have the flyer.

00:31:54.000 I don't know if we have the video too.

00:31:58.000 There it is.

00:31:58.000 Yep.

00:31:58.000 There you go.

00:31:59.000 Maximum restraint technique.

00:31:59.000 There's a flyer.

00:32:00.000 Maximum restraint technique.

00:32:01.000 Was used over 200 times.

00:32:03.000 I think, what was it, the year before?

00:32:03.000 Yep.

00:32:04.000 Yep.

00:32:07.000 All of the human beings.

00:32:08.000 Matter of fact, we have Clip R, use of force expert, very broad.

00:32:12.000 Brought up that he was justified in his restraint.

00:32:13.000 Again, because this is, you can find it.

00:32:15.000 It's not even something that's like one of those hidden techniques like Steven Seagal, like, oh, this is the technique that I don't teach because it's too dangerous.

00:32:22.000 They pass it out.

00:32:24.000 The camera can't register it.

00:32:24.000 You never see it.

00:32:26.000 It involves cake and me in the bathroom.

00:32:29.000 I'll be back.

00:32:31.000 You ever seen Tub Girl?

00:32:32.000 It's tub me.

00:32:34.000 It's one boy, one big cup of ice cream.

00:32:39.000 Clip R. This is also confirmation of what we're talking about.

00:32:42.000 Now based upon your training and experience and your expertise in the use of force matters.

00:32:50.000 What are your 11 herbs and spices?

00:32:53.000 Have you formed opinions in this particular case to a reasonable degree of professional certainty?

00:33:00.000 I have.

00:33:01.000 And can you just briefly overview your opinions in this particular case?

00:33:06.000 I felt that Derek Chauvin was justified and was acting with objective reasonableness following Minneapolis Police Department policy and current standards of law enforcement and his interactions with Mr. Floyd.

00:33:20.000 So it's easy to sit and judge in an office on an officer's conduct.

00:33:26.000 It's more of a challenge to, again, put yourself in the officer's shoes to try to make an evaluation through what they're feeling, what they're sensing, the fear they have, and then make a determination.

00:33:38.000 Also, really quick, you guys can bring it up.

00:33:39.000 This restraint was used, what, 200-something times since 2016 or 2019?

00:33:43.000 So it's been used hundreds of times to act as though this is an outlier.

00:33:48.000 It's not.

00:33:49.000 It's not.

00:33:50.000 It's how they train police.

00:33:51.000 It's been used hundreds of times, just to be clear.

00:33:53.000 If you have a problem with it, then your problem is with the police department.

00:33:56.000 It's with bad police training.

00:33:57.000 And I have that problem too.

00:33:59.000 It's not with Derek Chauvin.

00:34:01.000 Is there a hashtag right now going out with this thing?

00:34:04.000 Does anyone know?

00:34:05.000 I would imagine people are still watching it on Twitter and Instagram.

00:34:08.000 I'm going to discuss the law with you in a bit here.

00:34:14.000 And they explain, the court's already provided you some instructions on second degree murder.

00:34:19.000 And you know, done in the laws of this state.

00:34:21.000 237 times.

00:34:22.000 237 times.

00:34:23.000 A certain level of assault.

00:34:24.000 Rented 44 people unconscious, they claim.

00:34:26.000 And a person dies as a result of your assault.

00:34:30.000 You're guilty of murder.

00:34:32.000 It's as simple as that.

00:34:37.000 And what the defendant did here was a straight up felony assault.

00:34:37.000 No, it's not.

00:34:41.000 This was not policing.

00:34:43.000 It was unnecessary.

00:34:45.000 It was gratuitous.

00:34:46.000 It was disproportionate.

00:34:48.000 And he did it on purpose.

00:34:51.000 What?

00:34:52.000 No question.

00:34:53.000 On purpose.

00:34:53.000 How do you know that?

00:34:54.000 He's pushing for first-degree murder.

00:34:55.000 You're not truthful.

00:34:56.000 This is laying the trap right now, where if people, and any reasonable person goes, well look, come on, this wasn't on purpose, this wasn't premeditated murder, they now have this backrest, they now have this backdrop of, oh, but wait a second, he did it on purpose, so anything other than first-degree murder?

00:35:12.000 Riot.

00:35:13.000 That's the problem.

00:35:14.000 It's not that people have different opinions.

00:35:15.000 It's the irresponsibility of people saying either it's first-degree murder or the system is broken and everything is racist.

00:35:22.000 Riot.

00:35:23.000 Well, I don't even think first-degree is charged in this.

00:35:23.000 Right.

00:35:25.000 I think it's just... It was reduced.

00:35:26.000 Yeah, it's been reduced.

00:35:28.000 That's the problem, is he's going for something that he actually can't be convicted of.

00:35:32.000 And that's the problem with the woman... What's her name we just saw? 0.99

00:35:36.000 Taser, taser, taser. 1.00

00:35:37.000 Maxine Waters.

00:35:38.000 Oh, Maxine Waters. 0.99

00:35:38.000 Thank you. 0.99

00:35:39.000 That's the problem as well, is she's stirring people up knowing that the end result is not going to be that.

00:35:44.000 Yeah, just like the end result of her wig. 0.99

00:35:46.000 Sometimes the part's on the left or the right.

00:35:47.000 Easy Bill O'Reilly.

00:35:49.000 She puts it on backwards sometimes.

00:35:51.000 Just looking out for the folks.

00:35:53.000 All I'm trying to say.

00:35:54.000 Keep it pithy.

00:35:55.000 James Brown.

00:35:55.000 All right.

00:35:56.000 Let's go back to this guy.

00:35:59.000 Well, this all started over a call of an alleged counterfeit $20 bill.

00:36:03.000 Not alleged.

00:36:04.000 An actual one.

00:36:04.000 Not alleged.

00:36:05.000 I didn't realize that lawyers are, I guess during closing arguments, they're allowed to just lie completely without objection.

00:36:11.000 On purpose.

00:36:12.000 Alleged.

00:36:12.000 This is felony assault.

00:36:14.000 This is just, like, this would have never been allowed in the questioning.

00:36:17.000 Called out for his mom.

00:36:19.000 Oh yeah, that's where they get the closing arguments.

00:36:20.000 It's all, you know, lies.

00:36:22.000 In a Steve Harvey suit.

00:36:23.000 Everything that you remember... I was gonna say a little bit more of a Don Cherry.

00:36:26.000 It's something there, yeah.

00:36:27.000 In this courtroom, you can't go out of bounds!

00:36:30.000 It's made by Fat Farm.

00:36:32.000 Do you like it?

00:36:33.000 Can I pull it off?

00:36:34.000 Okay, anyway, so he's on the ground.

00:36:37.000 Be better.

00:36:38.000 Be better.

00:36:39.000 The kind of ego-based pride.

00:36:45.000 The defendant was not going to be told what to do.

00:36:48.000 He was not going to let his bystanders tell him what to do.

00:36:51.000 He did get told what to do!

00:36:52.000 Put me on the ground! 0.99

00:36:53.000 Okay, I'll put you on the ground! 1.00

00:36:55.000 I guess it's all to say he wasn't going to be told what to do by bystanders.

00:37:00.000 What do you mean? 0.99

00:37:01.000 The I'll fuck you up? 0.99

00:37:01.000 Which instruction? 0.99

00:37:03.000 From the bystanders?

00:37:03.000 That one?

00:37:06.000 No!

00:37:06.000 Police are not supposed to acquiesce to bystanders.

00:37:09.000 That's not ego!

00:37:10.000 I don't, I don't do, right, it'd be like me right now going, well, I guess, you know, instead of this, I'm gonna do a no spin zone and go to O'Reilly because people are like, ah, someone says, I want you to do Bill O'Reilly.

00:37:18.000 No! 0.97

00:37:19.000 He sucks, and I don't want him to touch me. 1.00

00:37:22.000 And he will! 1.00

00:37:23.000 Again!

00:37:23.000 Again, yeah.

00:37:25.000 Yes, he's a very handsy man who writes books about God.

00:37:28.000 Oh yeah, that's true. 0.95

00:37:30.000 And assassinating Jesus. 0.91

00:37:31.000 Yeah, he does, yeah. 0.99

00:37:32.000 He should write his own, Killing My Career.

00:37:32.000 JFK.

00:37:34.000 Yes.

00:37:35.000 He dressed for court like it was the most important thing.

00:37:35.000 How'd he do that?

00:37:37.000 You also can tell that he wrote them at the same time with his ghostwriter, because the thief on the cross was Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:37:43.000 Exactly.

00:37:45.000 That was a weird stopover in an airport.

00:37:47.000 That's weird.

00:37:47.000 Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:37:48.000 I don't think Jack Ruby shot Pontius Pilate.

00:37:54.000 I'm not trying to win.

00:37:58.000 I'm scared.

00:38:02.000 But the defendant was trying to win.

00:38:08.000 He wasn't going to be told what to do.

00:38:10.000 He wasn't going to take a challenge to his authority.

00:38:15.000 He was trying to win.

00:38:18.000 George Floyd paid for it with his life.

00:38:21.000 I mean, I guess a win is an arrest?

00:38:23.000 Regardless of anything I've said, though, that's not what happened.

00:38:30.000 He could be responsible for his death.

00:38:31.000 I've always said that and I stand by that.

00:38:33.000 But he wasn't trying to win anything.

00:38:37.000 If he was trying to, like, he would just let him go if it was a contest.

00:38:41.000 If he was trying to win anything, it would be like, all right, guys, just You shouldn't be able to lie to jurors like that.

00:38:46.000 Like, what evidence do you have that he was trying to win?

00:38:48.000 Did he smirk, like, while the crowd was like, haha, look, he's staying down?

00:38:51.000 As a matter of fact, he turned over to his female partner, who was not there, and she said, there's one thing I want you to do for me.

00:38:58.000 She said, come here.

00:38:58.000 He said, what?

00:38:59.000 He said, what?

00:39:00.000 She said, come here.

00:39:03.000 And then he heard a bell gong.

00:39:08.000 This all happened, I would refer you to the stenographer.

00:39:11.000 And the jury's like, this is a lie?

00:39:12.000 He's like, well, it's a closing statement, so whatever.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, I'll say what I want.

00:39:16.000 Just remember.

00:39:17.000 Doesn't this guy look like a character actor playing a lawyer?

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 Like, where are the Ghostbusters?

00:39:22.000 I had them committed.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, he'd be prosecuting the Ghostbusters.

00:39:27.000 The Ghostbusters are a menace to this town!

00:39:29.000 And then something comes in and he learns his lesson.

00:39:33.000 Maybe he falls into a cake.

00:39:36.000 The Scoleri Brothers!

00:39:39.000 Oh no! 1.00

00:39:40.000 I need to hear what bullshit comes next. 1.00

00:39:40.000 Alright, hold on. 1.00

00:39:44.000 Back to the car.

00:39:46.000 He's with his friends.

00:39:48.000 And there's a tap at the window.

00:39:52.000 He looks to his left.

00:39:53.000 And a starter.

00:39:57.000 This is what he sees.

00:39:58.000 No!

00:40:08.000 bring that clip, let's bring up the clip of him doing this before. Just so you know, George

00:40:12.000 Floyd has a long and storied history of resisting. And by the way, you're already resisting arrest

00:40:17.000 if you don't show your hands. So this is the previous clip of George Floyd being arrested

00:40:21.000 while we find this one. That is not how that started. And that matters. Clip.

00:40:26.000 Hey, look, see, there's no gun.

00:40:30.000 Right now, he's not showing his hands.

00:40:32.000 Boom! 0.99

00:40:32.000 Right there. 0.99

00:40:33.000 Gun, glove compartment.

00:40:34.000 Cops have been shot for less.

00:40:36.000 Hands are up.

00:40:37.000 Now he's putting them below again.

00:40:41.000 I'm not going to shoot you. 0.96

00:40:45.000 I'm not gonna shoot you. 0.95

00:40:46.000 Put your hands on the dash, last time I'm gonna tell you that. 0.53

00:40:48.000 It's simple.

00:40:49.000 Isn't this a different clip?

00:40:52.000 Yeah, this is an arrest before, and then we're gonna bring up the arrest now.

00:40:55.000 They want you to think that the cop walked up with a gun.

00:40:58.000 No, that's not how it happened.

00:40:59.000 This is a guy whose M.O.

00:41:01.000 is actively resisting arrest by not showing his hands.

00:41:04.000 And keep in mind, he's a violent serial felon!

00:41:11.000 All right, that's enough of that clip.

00:41:12.000 And let me know when we have the actual clip of the arrest.

00:41:14.000 We should have it from our previous show maps.

00:41:20.000 They want you to think that the guy walked up like it was Goldeneye.

00:41:24.000 First person shooter tapping with his gun.

00:41:27.000 Oh gosh, that startled me.

00:41:28.000 Can you open the windows, sir?

00:41:30.000 No.

00:41:30.000 The cop walked up and told him, I am not going to shoot you.

00:41:34.000 Put your hands on the dash, or at that point I think since he's on the driver's side, hands on the wheel.

00:41:39.000 That is so misleading.

00:41:40.000 Do you have it?

00:41:41.000 Alright, here's the actual clip.

00:41:46.000 See?

00:41:47.000 See?

00:41:47.000 No gun in his hands.

00:41:48.000 Let me see your hands.

00:41:52.000 Now he brings out the gun when he can't see the other hand which could be reaching.

00:41:55.000 Let me see your other hand. Both hands!

00:41:58.000 Now he brings out the gun when he can't see the other hand which could be reaching.

00:42:02.000 What did we do?

00:42:04.000 Put your hand up there!

00:42:06.000 Still not complying.

00:42:08.000 And then he says, I'm not going to shoot you, I'm not going to shoot you.

00:42:11.000 Which I almost think police officers shouldn't say.

00:42:13.000 Right, you should leave that on the table.

00:42:16.000 I'm probably not going to shoot you, but maybe?

00:42:20.000 We'll see. 1.00

00:42:20.000 If you have a gun and you pull it on me, if you try to kill me, I will shoot you. 1.00

00:42:24.000 I'm already thinking about it. 1.00

00:42:28.000 I think police policy should be, you aim the gun at them, and you say, don't worry, the safety's off, oh shit. 1.00

00:42:34.000 That should be the policy. 1.00

00:42:35.000 Just to put the fear of God in them a little bit. 0.99

00:42:38.000 Alright, let's go back to this liar. 0.96

00:42:39.000 They take him over to the car. 0.95

00:42:42.000 George Floyd is a big guy.

00:42:45.000 You can see here, he's almost as big as Officer Lane.

00:42:49.000 He's bigger.

00:42:51.000 He's a big person.

00:42:52.000 The back of a squad car is not.

00:42:55.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:42:56.000 That's what they wanted to make.

00:42:58.000 Come on, George Floyd.

00:43:00.000 It's a full-size SUV.

00:43:01.000 It's not even a crossover.

00:43:03.000 He got out of an SUV.

00:43:05.000 It's the new Explorer.

00:43:06.000 It's enormous.

00:43:07.000 It just makes common sense.

00:43:09.000 He's 223 pounds and he's not even a lion.

00:43:13.000 Aren't there other cars there that are smaller?

00:43:15.000 Like, didn't they pick the big one?

00:43:16.000 Yeah!

00:43:18.000 Oh my gosh!

00:43:18.000 Get out of a smaller car!

00:43:20.000 Alright, hold on.

00:43:20.000 I want to hear him justify now that he required being on the ground where it was far more comfortable than the back of a full-size Expedition.

00:43:27.000 He just wasn't able to bring himself to do it.

00:43:30.000 What?

00:43:31.000 That's like a limo pulling up for you and instead of being like, no, no, no, just roll that dumpster over and I'm gonna ride in that.

00:43:38.000 Here's the excuse that he just gave.

00:43:40.000 He just couldn't bring himself to do it.

00:43:42.000 So you get to just not get in a cop car when you're under arrest.

00:43:45.000 I'm sorry officer, I just can't bring myself to do it.

00:43:47.000 I can't.

00:43:48.000 No, look at how tiny that thing is. 0.55

00:43:49.000 It looks like Ryan Reynolds' Buried Alive film.

00:43:52.000 Yes.

00:43:52.000 By the way, explaining himself, saying he can't breathe right now?

00:43:54.000 There?

00:43:55.000 Is that explaining himself?

00:43:56.000 He's saying he can't breathe?

00:43:59.000 Because again, that would imply that there are breathing complications that have nothing to do with Chauvin.

00:44:05.000 By the way, explaining himself, saying he can't breathe right now?

00:44:08.000 There, is that explaining himself?

00:44:09.000 He's saying he can't breathe?

00:44:10.000 Because again, that would imply that there are breathing complications that have nothing

00:44:13.000 to do with Shaban.

00:44:17.000 Not saying it helped.

00:44:18.000 Saying he was already using it, so you can't trust.

00:44:20.000 Everything that came out of George Floyd's mouth was a lie in that altercation, just to be clear.

00:44:24.000 And everything this lawyer has said.

00:44:26.000 And I'm not saying it's incorrect.

00:44:28.000 It is a lie.

00:44:30.000 George Floyd said, I didn't do nothing.

00:44:32.000 Yes, you did.

00:44:32.000 Said, I'm not that kind of guy.

00:44:33.000 Yes, you are.

00:44:34.000 My mom just died.

00:44:35.000 No, she didn't.

00:44:36.000 I can't breathe.

00:44:37.000 Yes, you can.

00:44:38.000 I didn't do any drugs.

00:44:39.000 Yes, you did.

00:44:39.000 Okay?

00:44:40.000 This guy just said, called out for his mother.

00:44:42.000 No, he didn't.

00:44:43.000 Called out for his girlfriend.

00:44:44.000 He just said, couldn't fit in the back of the car.

00:44:46.000 It's very small.

00:44:46.000 Nope.

00:44:47.000 That's not true.

00:44:48.000 He said, this is how the officer approached him.

00:44:49.000 Showed a picture of a gun.

00:44:50.000 That's not true.

00:44:51.000 This is not how the police force is trained to restrain people.

00:44:53.000 That's not true.

00:44:54.000 Everything George Floyd said was a lie.

00:44:56.000 Everything this lawyer has said thus far is a lie.

00:44:58.000 And I'm not saying that they don't have a case.

00:45:00.000 But he's not going with the case because the witnesses never really, it never really went that well for the prosecution, including their own witnesses!

00:45:08.000 But they pulled him out of a small car.

00:45:10.000 Does nobody see this?

00:45:13.000 It's a terrible defense!

00:45:15.000 Horrible!

00:45:16.000 We pulled him out of a tiny clown car.

00:45:18.000 There's room for many people in there.

00:45:20.000 We all know it.

00:45:20.000 It's magic.

00:45:21.000 They could fit Shaquille O'Neal in the back of that police car.

00:45:23.000 Of course!

00:45:24.000 That's not even a good...

00:45:26.000 He just couldn't bring himself to do it.

00:45:30.000 Unbelievable.

00:45:33.000 I don't doubt that he had issues and stuff.

00:45:35.000 Oh yeah.

00:45:36.000 Completely.

00:45:37.000 It's sad.

00:45:37.000 It's terribly sad.

00:45:37.000 It's sad. It's terribly sad.

00:45:39.000 Mental illness. Mental health issues.

00:45:42.000 Like, drug, and alcohol.

00:45:45.000 That's called resisting.

00:45:47.000 That's not an excuse.

00:45:48.000 There is no new definition of resisting arrest that you can come up with.

00:45:53.000 but just not be able to bring themselves to comply.

00:45:56.000 Wait, what?

00:45:57.000 At that moment, at that time.

00:45:59.000 That's called resisting.

00:46:00.000 That's not an excuse.

00:46:01.000 There is no new definition of resisting arrest that you can come up with.

00:46:05.000 He just couldn't bring himself to comply.

00:46:07.000 Remember Chief Iradonno took the stand, he testified.

00:46:10.000 You know, listen, I committed a crime and they wanted to arrest me, but I couldn't bring myself to allow myself to be arrested myself.

00:46:19.000 I had a divorce.

00:46:20.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:46:21.000 You're free to go.

00:46:23.000 Is that a grown-up thing to do?

00:46:24.000 We didn't know that.

00:46:25.000 I mean, thanks for telling us.

00:46:26.000 I do wish during one of my arrests I could have been like, uh, my parents are divorced.

00:46:29.000 They'd be like, no they're not.

00:46:30.000 I'd be like, yeah, but you know, spiritually they are.

00:46:34.000 They don't get along.

00:46:35.000 Can I go now?

00:46:35.000 They're dead to each other.

00:46:36.000 They should ask every single perp, Dave, can you bring yourself to get in the back of this full-size SUV?

00:46:40.000 You could be like, it's not roomy enough!

00:46:42.000 They're like, you're, you're, come on, you're not that large.

00:46:44.000 Look at you.

00:46:45.000 You can get in there.

00:46:46.000 You can get in the glove box, you little man.

00:46:48.000 You'll get in there and your legs will be dangling like the Oscar Mayer commercial.

00:46:55.000 My baloney has a first name and I spell I can't breathe.

00:47:00.000 ...and a reasonable officer in the defendant's place with all his training and all his experience, including that 40-hour crisis intervention course and a subsequent refresher course, should have known that and should have recognized it.

00:47:12.000 Floyd was trying to get into the car.

00:47:14.000 He was trying to work up the courage.

00:47:16.000 He said he'd count to three.

00:47:18.000 But he just couldn't do it.

00:47:21.000 I care!

00:47:23.000 Well, it's not about working up the courage to be arrested.

00:47:28.000 His argument here should be, the cops should have completely disregarded George Floyd's feelings and shoved him in the back of that car and kept him there until he was drawing lines on the wall like the Count of Monte Cristo.

00:47:37.000 He should have been Edmund Duntess in the back of that car.

00:47:39.000 That's what they should be saying, but right now, they're making the case against themselves, saying, he couldn't get in the back of the car, okay, so he had to go on the ground.

00:47:45.000 He shouldn't be on the ground, so you're saying he should just go free when he commits a crime.

00:47:48.000 This is a horrible argument.

00:47:51.000 Largely been my point the whole time is put him in the back, no matter what, get him out of there.

00:47:56.000 I believe he would still be alive.

00:47:58.000 That's the only reason why this guy may be, you know, he may be partially responsible, but that's a large part is you can't, like you have to get him in there.

00:48:06.000 You have to get him out of there.

00:48:07.000 That's just my opinion, but I think I'm right seeing as he's dead.

00:48:11.000 Right.

00:48:12.000 Well, you know what?

00:48:13.000 Tomato, tomato.

00:48:13.000 Let's turn this up so we can hear them.

00:48:15.000 Lord.

00:48:16.000 You have a wing!

00:48:19.000 So, they don't listen.

00:48:23.000 They just shove him into the car.

00:48:24.000 They shove him and then they do listen and take him out!

00:48:28.000 And that's the problem!

00:48:30.000 He should have been stuffed in that car and kept in that car with the child lock on!

00:48:35.000 Look, this is my question.

00:48:36.000 This is your question, ultimately, to the left.

00:48:38.000 And it's the same question with the rioters and the Maxine Waters.

00:48:40.000 It's like, okay, alright.

00:48:42.000 Committed a crime.

00:48:43.000 What do we do?

00:48:45.000 Well, you arrest him.

00:48:46.000 We need better training.

00:48:46.000 Okay.

00:48:47.000 Tries to de-escalate.

00:48:48.000 George Floyd doesn't show his hands.

00:48:50.000 What do you do?

00:48:52.000 OK.

00:48:52.000 You bring him back.

00:48:53.000 Then you bring him back and now he doesn't want to get in the car.

00:48:55.000 What do you do?

00:48:56.000 Well, they wouldn't listen to him.

00:48:57.000 OK.

00:48:58.000 So what do you do?

00:48:58.000 Well, then you don't put him in the car.

00:49:00.000 OK.

00:49:00.000 So he requests to go on the ground.

00:49:01.000 What do you do?

00:49:02.000 Well then you restrain him.

00:49:03.000 Then he says he doesn't want to be restrained.

00:49:05.000 What do you do?

00:49:06.000 At a certain point, you've got to start adulting, sweetheart.

00:49:09.000 At a certain point, you either accept that the police have the authority to arrest people, or they don't.

00:49:15.000 This guy seems to be implying that you can't do anything a criminal doesn't like.

00:49:20.000 Basically.

00:49:20.000 Same thing with Maxine Waters.

00:49:21.000 Okay, if it's not guilty, what do you do?

00:49:24.000 We riot.

00:49:25.000 Okay?

00:49:26.000 If it's manslaughter, what do you do?

00:49:27.000 We riot.

00:49:28.000 If it's second degree, what do you do?

00:49:29.000 We riot.

00:49:30.000 If it's Tuesday.

00:49:31.000 Yeah.

00:49:32.000 We riot.

00:49:33.000 Oh, you're getting it.

00:49:34.000 Basically.

00:49:35.000 If there's a mean pair of dunks in that window, what do you do?

00:49:38.000 Well, we riot.

00:49:39.000 Well, obviously.

00:49:40.000 free. All right here they're gonna show this clip again of God...

00:49:45.000 Again, all right.

00:49:49.000 This is the result of him refusing to get in the car, which you just said was a problem.

00:49:53.000 They didn't listen to him.

00:49:54.000 They should not have listened to him!

00:49:56.000 They should have shoved him in the car, period! 0.99

00:50:01.000 Four officers.

00:50:04.000 And what did George Floyd say once they pulled him out of the car?

00:50:09.000 Thank you.

00:50:11.000 Thank you.

00:50:13.000 Now, a reasonable officer in the defendant's position at that time should have recognized and understood he wasn't trying to escape.

00:50:22.000 He wasn't trying to punch anyone, stab anyone.

00:50:24.000 He kicked them!

00:50:25.000 Clip end! 1.00

00:50:26.000 He actively kicked a cop!

00:50:29.000 Uh, kicked his leg.

00:50:32.000 And could you describe that kick and how that might be interpreted by a reasonable police officer?

00:50:38.000 Yes, so the officers were still attempting to control Mr. Floyd at the time and as they were trying to place him down in a prone position, I believe one of the officers was attempting to control his legs and Mr. Floyd kicked their arms away in an attempt to try to possibly um break free from from the officer's uh grasp oh but then after that he said he said thank you after he kicked them and they got him down on the ground by request he said thank you by the way little known fact they can't arrest you if you say pretty please true was that uh cedric the entertainer's brother cedric the explainer it was cedric cedric cedric don't count your tips in public cedric

00:51:27.000 Hold that thought. 1.00

00:51:29.000 I'm sure it's hilarious, but right now I'm angry at this Don Cherry-suited piece of shit. 1.00

00:51:35.000 ...to expand and take in air so they can breathe. 0.99

00:51:39.000 That is a step that protects against the known danger of positional asphyxia.

00:51:46.000 And they have him there.

00:51:48.000 He's right there.

00:51:49.000 So then what happens after?

00:51:52.000 They take him incredibly out of the recovery position and prone him on the ground.

00:52:01.000 For what?

00:52:03.000 The prone position is a transitory position.

00:52:06.000 It's a position you use to secure someone in handcuffs, and when you're done with that, you immediately roll them on their side.

00:52:12.000 It's also a position they use when people have COVID to assist with their breathing.

00:52:15.000 Time out!

00:52:16.000 It is a transitional position to where?

00:52:18.000 To where?

00:52:18.000 What is the ultimate goal?

00:52:19.000 Handcuffs?

00:52:20.000 They already had him in handcuffs.

00:52:21.000 The next thing?

00:52:21.000 Roll him, put him on his feet, put him in the car.

00:52:23.000 They just tried that!

00:52:24.000 Right.

00:52:25.000 What would you like them to transition to?

00:52:26.000 They have to wait for the paramedics.

00:52:27.000 They were waiting for people because this guy was high out of his mind.

00:52:30.000 Did you call timeout like Zach Morris?

00:52:32.000 Yes.

00:52:32.000 I did.

00:52:33.000 I'm sorry, it just pisses me off.

00:52:35.000 When I get angry, I quote Saved by the Bell.

00:52:39.000 By the way, also a little known fact that officers, if you just want to get a mass arrest, just walk into the North Ward in St.

00:52:44.000 Louis and yell, all the oxen free! 1.00

00:52:46.000 Shit! 1.00

00:52:47.000 Oh man. 1.00

00:52:48.000 You got me.

00:52:50.000 On a system, man.

00:52:51.000 I was hiding in the dryer!

00:52:53.000 There's this idea that he should have been, and I can see it honestly, but like, you sit him down, you calm him down, that sort of thing.

00:52:59.000 I get that's the idea.

00:53:01.000 They did, though.

00:53:03.000 Before they put him in the car, they had him up against a wall saying, calm down.

00:53:06.000 That's where they asked him, are you on something?

00:53:09.000 No.

00:53:09.000 He had minutes.

00:53:11.000 He had minutes before they even tried to put him in the car.

00:53:14.000 And then he had minutes where he had to go on the ground after they kicked him.

00:53:20.000 I don't know how long it has to be.

00:53:21.000 Does it need to be 20 minutes?

00:53:22.000 I don't either.

00:53:23.000 That's my point.

00:53:24.000 I'm asking questions.

00:53:25.000 No, no, I know, but I'm saying he did have minutes where he was up against the wall and saying, hey man, calm down.

00:53:30.000 Are you on anything?

00:53:31.000 I'll roll down the window.

00:53:32.000 on? Do you have any issues?" Right? They were asking him that up against the wall.

00:53:35.000 I'll roll down the window. I'll turn on the air.

00:53:35.000 And then he said, I'll roll down the window, calm down. I don't know. Again, we can all get to the

00:53:40.000 point of where he's on the ground, but that's by request.

00:53:43.000 Up until that point, I don't think they could have been more empathetic. That's where I differ

00:53:47.000 with a lot of people. I really can't think of a more empathetic police officer than saying, hey man,

00:53:51.000 are you on anything? What's going on?

00:53:53.000 All right, we're going to get you in the back of this car.

00:53:55.000 Okay. Hey, no, look, I'm going to stay with you. I'm going to put the air conditioning on. I'm

00:53:58.000 going to open the window, get in the car.

00:54:00.000 I don't expect that!

00:54:02.000 Yeah, I don't know what they were supposed to do.

00:54:03.000 And if he couldn't bring himself to get in the car the first time, lawyer, you just said this, do you think magically the second time he's going to?

00:54:10.000 What's the end result?

00:54:12.000 Yeah, the problem is if you ask him what are you on, you're not going to get an answer because it's then a further charge.

00:54:18.000 So there has to be, and I mean I hate to say it, but there has to be something that said like, this is to save your life.

00:54:24.000 We need to know if you're on something so we can take you out of restraint.

00:54:27.000 Whatever it is, not saying that they need to do that.

00:54:30.000 Right.

00:54:30.000 I'm just saying that would be something that would, it's too hard to do.

00:54:35.000 There's no realistic way to do it because you're not going to admit to a crime while you're being arrested.

00:54:41.000 Right.

00:54:41.000 That's just the reality.

00:54:42.000 And certainly not if you've committed several violent crimes, like robbing a woman in front of her kids in the house.

00:54:46.000 I mean, like, this is not a guy... This is also something you need to... Can we also agree here, too, with the George Floyd, Eddie Haskelling a little bit?

00:54:53.000 Okay?

00:54:54.000 The kind of guy who has... who's already stepped over the line of robbing a woman at gunpoint, scoping out a woman who's alone with her toddler in the house, robbing her at gunpoint, roughing her up, and then when an officer... you know, you're acting like Michael Clarke Duncan.

00:55:07.000 Yes, sir!

00:55:08.000 Could you leave the light on, sir?

00:55:08.000 No, sir!

00:55:10.000 It's like, come on, look.

00:55:11.000 Look, you just brushed a kid off after giving him a counterfeit 20, and he really nicely just said, man, come on.

00:55:17.000 They're going to take it out of my pay.

00:55:20.000 Before you arrest me, can I have some of your wife's corn? 1.00

00:55:24.000 Hey, so Austin in the edit bay, he said we missed this.

00:55:28.000 The prosecutor said, believe your eyes, what you saw.

00:55:30.000 But the problem is people aren't seeing the full tape.

00:55:33.000 They're not seeing the full context. 0.99

00:55:34.000 They're seeing what the prosecution wants them to see, which is all bullshit. 0.98

00:55:37.000 As a matter of fact, a perfect example of that is here's a witness who is saying that George Floyd, this is clip I, said, never said, I never heard him say, I ate too many drugs. 0.98

00:55:47.000 And him being presented with something that he couldn't possibly have heard from their smartphone amidst yelling of how you would F the officer up if you were in that situation.

00:55:54.000 So this is a perfect example of why you can't just believe what you're seeing, your angle, your vantage point, what you're able to hear.

00:56:01.000 Clip I, here's a perfect example.

00:56:03.000 Did you attempt to understand and hear what various parties were saying at various times?

00:56:10.000 Yes.

00:56:11.000 He heard it, he says.

00:56:12.000 Did you ever hear Mr. Floyd say, I eat too many drugs?

00:56:19.000 No.

00:56:24.000 Did he say it though?

00:56:29.000 Did you hear that?

00:56:29.000 There it is.

00:56:30.000 Yes, I did.

00:56:31.000 Did it appear that Mr. Floyd said I ate too many drugs?

00:56:34.000 Yes, it did.

00:56:35.000 There you go.

00:56:37.000 Believe what you see and hear!

00:56:39.000 Okay.

00:56:40.000 This guy doesn't want the truth.

00:56:41.000 That's what's really clear about this.

00:56:43.000 He wants the opposite of the truth.

00:56:45.000 Well, and that's what I'm saying.

00:56:46.000 I want the truth as well, and if that means he's guilty of a crime, then I want him to go to jail.

00:56:50.000 I am not here trying to preach that we should let Chauvin go and nothing should happen.

00:56:55.000 I just want truth to come out.

00:56:56.000 That's it.

00:56:57.000 But that's him telling him that he ate too many drugs, correct?

00:56:57.000 Period.

00:57:00.000 Yeah.

00:57:00.000 What point did he do that?

00:57:01.000 That's him confessing and letting it out.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, on the ground.

00:57:04.000 Well, I think that that is definitely something that should be taken into account.

00:57:09.000 Not against the other police who I don't think could even hear it.

00:57:12.000 But against Sheldon, I think so.

00:57:14.000 This guy right now is saying, believe your eyes, believe what you see.

00:57:16.000 And the point is that was someone who was there, someone who had reviewed it.

00:57:19.000 Someone who said, I heard it all.

00:57:21.000 I'm saying, did you hear this?

00:57:22.000 No.

00:57:22.000 And they play it.

00:57:23.000 Did you hear it now?

00:57:24.000 Yes.

00:57:25.000 So the point is, this guy is saying, believe what you saw on YouTube.

00:57:29.000 Believe what you saw on WorldStar.

00:57:30.000 Believe what you saw on NBC.

00:57:33.000 Believe the selectively edited clips.

00:57:34.000 Just believe what you've seen.

00:57:36.000 Don't believe all of the additional evidence.

00:57:39.000 Don't believe what's been presented.

00:57:41.000 Don't believe the aggregate of everything that's been presented here.

00:57:44.000 He wants people, he wants low information jurists.

00:57:49.000 That's what he is doing right now.

00:57:50.000 He's actively trying to eliminate the most relevant evidence that could only come out in court to say, let's go back to when you first saw the video and you felt really emotional.

00:58:00.000 That's how you should charge this guy.

00:58:02.000 Let me go back to hear what he's saying now.

00:58:03.000 That common sense or is that nonsense?

00:58:05.000 And by the way, you guys let me know.

00:58:06.000 Comment below.

00:58:07.000 That's the best thing you can do is comment.

00:58:08.000 I know right now you can't because it's live.

00:58:10.000 We'll be taking your Mug Club chat.

00:58:11.000 But as soon as this is up on YouTube, just comment if this is convincing you.

00:58:15.000 If you see this as subversive as I do.

00:58:19.000 I can't believe what this guy is doing.

00:58:21.000 I mean, I can.

00:58:22.000 That requires a tolerance.

00:58:22.000 I don't like it.

00:58:25.000 You know what the toxicology report says in terms of the levels and you know what the testimony was about that.

00:58:33.000 Die of a drug overdose.

00:58:34.000 Mean overdose level for fentanyl overlay H is 3.1 nanograms per milliliter.

00:58:39.000 Floyd had 11 nanograms per milliliter.

00:58:41.000 Now keep in mind he's trying to say he had a tolerance but again beforehand they said George Floyd hadn't committed any crime.

00:58:46.000 George Floyd was clean.

00:58:48.000 Remember?

00:58:49.000 Now they're saying he wasn't.

00:58:50.000 Well, who said he wasn't?

00:58:51.000 Mama, his girlfriend, said, we've been doing drugs.

00:58:54.000 So which is it?

00:58:55.000 Had he been clean, straightened up, and flied right?

00:58:57.000 Or was he with Mama, crack girlfriend, crack fiend girlfriend, who talked about them doing drugs, and he built up a tolerance so much that he was willing to pass counterfeit $20 to get his next hit?

00:59:08.000 You do have to have one or the other.

00:59:11.000 Because now if you're saying, ignore all the new evidence, ignore that Mama was his girlfriend, that he was doing drugs, okay, well then we go back to the fact that he was clean.

00:59:19.000 Well, the mean overdose level of fentanyl is 3.1.

00:59:21.000 He was 11.

00:59:22.000 Okay, case closed.

00:59:23.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:59:24.000 Actually, he was doing so many drugs that he had such a high tolerance.

00:59:28.000 Oh, but you just said he was lucid.

00:59:29.000 You just said he was explaining himself articulately.

00:59:31.000 You just said he was calling out for his mother.

00:59:33.000 So which is it?

00:59:34.000 There is no way to take this prosecution's closing statement at face value.

00:59:38.000 It doesn't work.

00:59:39.000 Because the parts of his statement right now don't match up with the initial parts.

00:59:43.000 ... manslaughter in the second degree.

00:59:46.000 The judge read you, you know, what the law says those things are.

00:59:50.000 And the law breaks down these different charges into things called elements. 1.00

00:59:55.000 Or as Maxine Waters calls it, BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER NO MATTER WHAT! 1.00

00:59:59.000 Yes. 1.00

01:00:00.000 I am a representative person.

01:00:06.000 Loot it.

01:00:13.000 This is an opinion, as he says.

01:00:16.000 I think that George Floyd along with a lot of people are just simply you get somebody who's a drug addict at the end of his rope he has no hope he has nowhere to go he's really not gonna turn around and change to be a better part of society because frankly he kind of can't.

01:00:28.000 I know that's hard to believe, but he's just at a point in his life where he's out of options.

01:00:32.000 At this point, we've shut down most of the country, where we're now riling up people who feel like they're useless, they don't have any value, they're completely out of options, and now we're telling them to burn down cities.

01:00:41.000 We're telling them they're not worthy, and we're telling them not only that, but that they are, in fact, this man.

01:00:46.000 Right.

01:00:47.000 And you know what else?

01:00:47.000 You know what people die from?

01:00:48.000 It's not just loneliness.

01:00:50.000 And when you've made people lonely, it takes way more time off your life than COVID, statistically.

01:00:56.000 If you look at it, if you look at the mean age of death, I'm not saying COVID is not

01:00:58.000 deadly.

01:00:59.000 I'm saying people who are lonely, particularly in their older age, they die much sooner,

01:01:03.000 just like people who actually live in two story homes live longer once you get to a

01:01:06.000 certain age.

01:01:07.000 These are basic facts of life, loneliness, mental health issues, drug addiction.

01:01:12.000 I don't agree with you.

01:01:13.000 I mean, you had options.

01:01:14.000 Look, you're someone who you've been open about, that you were an addict, and I think everyone has a choice at some point, and this is George Floyd who chose this right now.

01:01:21.000 Look, there are several choices there.

01:01:22.000 Counterfeit 20s, doing drugs, hanging around with the same people, committing more crimes.

01:01:27.000 There are people who've had worse stories than George Floyd who've come out of it.

01:01:30.000 I never believe that someone is completely out of options, and certainly not from what I've read with George Floyd.

01:01:34.000 He opted for that because it was the easier money.

01:01:37.000 No, I think he believed it, that's my point.

01:01:39.000 I'm not saying that he was, but I think he believed that.

01:01:41.000 Right, well, why do you think he believes it?

01:01:43.000 Because people like Maxine Waters tell him that's your only option.

01:01:45.000 Because people like Joe Biden say that's your only option.

01:01:47.000 White people bad, everyone's holding you down, everyone's holding you back. 1.00

01:01:50.000 They don't tell you, look, right now in places in Florida they are paying you $50 to show up for a job interview at McDonald's. 0.96

01:01:56.000 We can have the news team back there, in fact, bring it up, $50 to show up for an interview.

01:02:00.000 Wow.

01:02:01.000 Because people won't show up right now, they don't want to work!

01:02:03.000 Wow.

01:02:03.000 They feel comfortable enough with the government money.

01:02:05.000 That's a big problem.

01:02:06.000 That's why there's a shortage right now.

01:02:07.000 Excuse me, I'm going to McDonald's.

01:02:10.000 Is that true?

01:02:11.000 What?

01:02:11.000 I'm going to go sign up for a ton of interviews.

01:02:14.000 I'm getting free shakes.

01:02:16.000 He thinks he doesn't have options.

01:02:17.000 Correct.

01:02:18.000 And I'm speaking from an addict point of view, and where he's at.

01:02:21.000 He's got a medical problem, right?

01:02:22.000 Drug addiction is not just a mental problem, or a brain issue, like choosing right.

01:02:28.000 It is a medical issue.

01:02:29.000 It has to be treated as such.

01:02:31.000 And it's treated as punishment, and I understand that because a lot of it is a crime, but when you are a drug felon and all that, you know, everything that he had happening to him, it is very, very hard to make a transition to think you're not useless.

01:02:42.000 Not everybody's Danny Trejo.

01:02:45.000 Look, that being said, there are plenty of people with drug problems, and there are plenty of people with drug problems who commit crimes to try and get the next fix.

01:02:52.000 There's a big difference between that and scoping out a house with a mom who you know is vulnerable, going in with a gang with guns, and putting her at gunpoint, jamming it into her stomach in front of her kid.

01:03:01.000 That is not, I'm out of options. 1.00

01:03:03.000 That's a sinister bastard. 1.00

01:03:05.000 Have you smoked crack? 1.00

01:03:07.000 Hey, I love this from Business Insider.

01:03:09.000 McDonald's in Florida is paying people $50 just to show up for a job interview, but it's still not attracting many applicants.

01:03:15.000 Oh, wow.

01:03:16.000 Not good enough, I see.

01:03:17.000 50's not enough.

01:03:18.000 Not enough.

01:03:19.000 No option system.

01:03:20.000 I would go just for the 50 bucks.

01:03:22.000 Yeah, get your next score.

01:03:23.000 And then they'd call me and I'd be like, I'm not gonna worry about McDonald's, I'm not a loser.

01:03:27.000 I'm kidding, I'm joking.

01:03:28.000 And then you'd be like, oh really?

01:03:29.000 After only six months?

01:03:30.000 These are your employee benefits?

01:03:31.000 Those are competitive.

01:03:33.000 Next thing I get a call, yeah Dave, you're quitting.

01:03:36.000 Well, they're talking about cause of death stuff here, so I figured we'd have just a second.

01:03:40.000 I think what George Floyd did in crime, robbing that woman, deplorable, right?

01:03:45.000 Here's the thing.

01:03:45.000 Drugs make you do things that you would never otherwise do.

01:03:48.000 Hold on, let me make my point.

01:03:50.000 I have a sister who went through this.

01:03:52.000 I understand that they will make you do things that you would never ever think that you would do.

01:03:56.000 Mentally, it puts you in a place where you're no longer making the decisions like you normally would.

01:04:00.000 And that's not an excuse.

01:04:01.000 That's a warning.

01:04:02.000 Don't start using drugs unless you want to end up in a really, really bad...

01:04:06.000 Yes, and I've had a lot of...

01:04:07.000 You're 100% right.

01:04:08.000 ...and I've had experience with it too.

01:04:10.000 I mean, my dad had a guy who worked... who we tried to help for a long time...

01:04:13.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 ...steal his truck and then actually found out he had a pair of razors and some rope.

01:04:18.000 I remember that, yeah.

01:04:19.000 And that being said, drugs don't make you premeditatedly violent.

01:04:26.000 In other words, there are a lot of people who do drugs, who try and figure out a way to do...

01:04:30.000 you know, petty robbery, something like that...

01:04:32.000 Yeah.

01:04:33.000 ...pickpocketing, stealing a car.

01:04:34.000 Typically speaking, someone who is doing drugs, who doesn't want to hurt someone else but wants to get more drugs,

01:04:40.000 will at least try those first.

01:04:41.000 Not... 0.98

01:04:43.000 Show up with a gang of guys with guns, scoping out the most vulnerable among us, and jamming a gun in a woman's stomach.

01:04:49.000 That is not something that all... Look, just like when I say when people say, hey, you have mental health issues, you shouldn't have access to a gun.

01:04:54.000 Well, I have people in my family who are bipolar.

01:04:56.000 You know what happens?

01:04:57.000 They get really quiet and sad, and then sometimes they're really fun to be around.

01:05:00.000 Doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to own a firearm.

01:05:02.000 Just like when we say drug addicts, not all drug addicts are marauding violent thugs.

01:05:07.000 George Floyd chose to be that.

01:05:09.000 And I think that we need to differentiate between, yes, you're not, and there's also a difference between, you know, your executive functioning and, you know, impulsivity.

01:05:16.000 That's not impulsivity.

01:05:18.000 I think there is, though, a way where you can weigh in where he comes from.

01:05:22.000 Yeah, a lot of drug addicts aren't violent, but a lot of drug addicts come from money.

01:05:26.000 And I mean, depending on how long that you have this drug in you and how much it overtakes you, there's just a piece of your soul going away every single day.

01:05:33.000 And Gerald's right.

01:05:33.000 It will make you do things like that that you may think you could never do.

01:05:36.000 He could believe that I'm going in there and I'm not being violent because I'm not actually going to hurt her.

01:05:43.000 That could be whatever mental gymnastics you need to use to get that fixed.

01:05:46.000 Sure.

01:05:47.000 Now that doesn't excuse it, and that doesn't mean you shouldn't be in prison.

01:05:50.000 Because it certainly means you should be in prison if you cross that line.

01:05:53.000 But there needs to be a treatment for people on drugs, especially if they're going to be on the street the way that they are now, where it's either not completely locked up in prison, or a separate drug prison, or a rehab that's actually affordable.

01:06:06.000 Yeah, that'd be nice.

01:06:06.000 Yeah.

01:06:07.000 But I think it's important because this shit happens when we don't pay attention to the root of the problem, which, like you said, loneliness, drug addiction, and then when you pepper in being locked inside... Well, the root of the problem is they just said family. 0.99

01:06:19.000 I'm willing to bet didn't have a dad around. 0.99

01:06:21.000 George Floyd wasn't a dad to his kids, so it perpetuates that vicious cycle.

01:06:25.000 I'll tell you right now, I was a great kid who did very well in school up until my dad died, or at least my dad got very sick and was out of the house.

01:06:33.000 I'm an exact example of that, because there wasn't somebody there that I needed.

01:06:37.000 Right.

01:06:37.000 And I understand that, and I understand how much that hurts.

01:06:40.000 I can imagine.

01:06:41.000 Look, no one is saying that he didn't have some tough breaks.

01:06:44.000 The issue here is, I don't want everyone to say, oh, someone's on drugs, and fear them.

01:06:48.000 Because if you say, oh, they're going to end up being George Floyd, then people are going to be less likely to stage an intervention because they're afraid that they get violent.

01:06:54.000 I've known plenty of drug addicts who don't get violent that way.

01:06:56.000 It's a very small percentage of them.

01:06:58.000 Very small.

01:06:59.000 It's very small.

01:07:00.000 And so we can't just blame it on the drugs at that point.

01:07:03.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:07:04.000 Because that's a disservice to other people who genuinely want help.

01:07:07.000 It doesn't seem like George Floyd wanted it.

01:07:09.000 His drug addiction to this, in this moment, if that's what we're trying, is as... I mean, I hate to say it, it's as invaluable as anything else at this point, because you're looking at this exact moment.

01:07:21.000 Did this officer intend to kill him or be completely unaware?

01:07:26.000 Well, I don't even think that's a question.

01:07:27.000 I don't think he intended to kill Floyd.

01:07:28.000 I don't think he did either.

01:07:29.000 I think he knew what he had done in 2019 was the same thing that he did in 2020.

01:07:33.000 As soon as the cop comes up, he tries to ingest the drugs.

01:07:35.000 Oh, you're talking about George Floyd.

01:07:37.000 He was talking about Chauvin.

01:07:39.000 Yo, no, I'm saying I think when Chauvin had him on the ground, George Floyd admitted to why he's, I did too many drugs.

01:07:45.000 I think he ate all of it.

01:07:47.000 As a matter of fact, there were pills and then, I don't know if we have a, let me, let's go really quickly.

01:07:51.000 There were actually, this was in the trial, pills covered in Floyd's DNA were discovered in the back of the squad car.

01:07:57.000 Cliff H, really quickly.

01:08:00.000 So based on the testing of item 51 and that known sample, what did you find?

01:08:05.000 Sorry.

01:08:05.000 From item 51, the swab collected from that pill, I obtained a single source male DNA profile that matches George Floyd.

01:08:15.000 This DNA profile would not be expected to occur more than once among unrelated individuals in the world population.

01:08:21.000 Jeez.

01:08:21.000 All right.

01:08:22.000 So that's important.

01:08:23.000 So you're saying there's a chance.

01:08:25.000 Yeah.

01:08:29.000 Let's go listen to this lawyer lie some more. 1.00

01:08:32.000 Dr. Tobin, who also happens to be a critical care physician, he spent years treating patients in intensive care who were experiencing respiratory failure.

01:08:45.000 And Dr. Tobin literally wrote the book on the subject and he was able to tell you.

01:08:51.000 I'm pretty sure there's more than one book.

01:08:52.000 This looks like what he was able to observe.

01:08:55.000 Like, hey, where's your section on respiratory and circulatory systems and health?

01:09:01.000 Just the one.

01:09:03.000 It's right over there.

01:09:04.000 It's between fiction and nonfiction because you decide.

01:09:07.000 I'm a big fan of Tobin also.

01:09:12.000 Oh, you mean, where do I keep my Tobin's?

01:09:14.000 Yes!

01:09:16.000 And by Tobin's, I mean multiple copies of the one book.

01:09:21.000 We refer to it as THE book.

01:09:24.000 It's just one thing, it says THE in big letters, book.

01:09:27.000 And it's just that image that you see in like the Aleve commercials with a head and a tube and a circle when you open it up.

01:09:36.000 And we've got Ben Askren.

01:09:40.000 Okay, we've got Ben Askren.

01:09:41.000 Really quick, let me... He's being, you know, squeezed in a vice.

01:09:44.000 All right, so look, really quickly, we're gonna go, I know this is an eclectic show, we're going to go back to live fact-checking the closing arguments at this trial, and let us know what the hashtag is going on here, or if no one is actually watching it on social, in which case... Yeah, we have no hashtag yet.

01:09:58.000 Wow, that is a sad state of our country.

01:10:01.000 But right now we have him on the show.

01:10:02.000 He had a fight on Saturday night.

01:10:06.000 Look, obviously a rough night for him, but we wanted to have him on the show.

01:10:10.000 I've wanted to have him on for a while.

01:10:11.000 You know him as Master of Funk, Ben Askren, and A-Wisconsin, awawisconsin.com is where he, it's his wrestling, he coaches kids.

01:10:21.000 A-W-A, did I get this wrong?

01:10:23.000 That's touching.

01:10:23.000 Yeah.

01:10:24.000 Well, anyway, he coaches kids, he's a good guy, he's obviously a multiple-time world champion, and here to talk to us right now, Funky Van Askren, how are you, sir?

01:10:31.000 I'm doing pretty good, how are you?

01:10:33.000 I'm doing alright.

01:10:34.000 I know this is a weird mix, don't worry, you don't need to talk about the trial, but obviously... Yeah, I'm good.

01:10:39.000 I'm nervous about that, because I haven't been paying any attention, so I don't want to make a comment.

01:10:43.000 Well, especially also because you're good friends with Tyrone Woodley, and so that could be a really rough sparring session if you two disagree.

01:10:49.000 Uh, you know what?

01:10:50.000 I have a lot of friends on both sides of the aisle, and I just tell all my friends, I'm gonna respect you no matter what you think.

01:10:56.000 And Tyra and I obviously have...

01:10:58.000 Very different views on a lot of the world's problems, and we love each other, we respect each other, so I don't really, you know, there's not issues. 0.99

01:11:06.000 Well, there's not issues because you can kick most people's asses.

01:11:09.000 When I used to do drop-ins and then someone recognized me from YouTube and held an armbar for about 10 seconds too long and it popped, I said, oh, I can't do this anymore. 0.96

01:11:17.000 Then I noticed when we were changing and he had an upside-down cross tattooed.

01:11:19.000 I'm like, oh!

01:11:21.000 I thought I tapped!

01:11:23.000 Um, so, but I'm not, I'm not funky Ben Askren.

01:11:25.000 So, Ben, I don't know, we don't need to talk about the, obviously I would imagine disappointed with the results, uh, with the fight Saturday night.

01:11:32.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's the obvious talking point, and you're more than welcome to break it up, because I decided to come on the show, so that's my problem.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, I'm disappointed.

01:11:42.000 Just kind of, I didn't spend a lot of time on social media yesterday.

01:11:45.000 I had some high school friends over, we played disc golf, grilled out, had a good time.

01:11:49.000 You know, some people are just like, the only thing I took it seriously, and here's the thing.

01:11:55.000 When I took the fight, I said, number one, it's for the money.

01:11:57.000 Number two, I think it's going to be a good time.

01:11:59.000 I used to box, you know, with my friends in high school just for fun.

01:12:01.000 Yeah.

01:12:02.000 And I trained hard for 11 weeks.

01:12:04.000 I didn't, I didn't miss a practice and, uh, it just didn't go my way. 0.98

01:12:09.000 I mean, we knew he had a good overhand right and I'm a dumb ass and I didn't block it. 0.96

01:12:13.000 Uh, my defense was a little too loose. 0.99

01:12:16.000 I heard my coaches, both Tyron and Biggie were saying, Hey, stop reacting to his fakes.

01:12:21.000 And I did it.

01:12:22.000 And I, you know, I paid the price and, um, You know I think one of the things that really separates me from a lot of people is like I could have very easily sat on my couch and said I don't want to do that because there's a potential that I'll be embarrassed.

01:12:36.000 Right.

01:12:38.000 And that would be the only reason I wouldn't have done it.

01:12:39.000 There's no other there's no other valid reason. 1.00

01:12:43.000 And I said, I'm going to do it, so fuck it, I'm going to do it. 1.00

01:12:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:46.000 I think you and I are very similar in that way, in that I, too, find myself unashamed of being embarrassed for different reasons.

01:12:54.000 Now, actually, I just noticed Quarter Black just lit up when you said disc golf.

01:12:58.000 I guess he's into it, too.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, man, disc golf.

01:13:00.000 I don't know what this is.

01:13:01.000 It's classic.

01:13:02.000 I feel like it's not something an adult should do.

01:13:04.000 You should know.

01:13:05.000 You should know.

01:13:05.000 By the way, you're—and I know, I know you're—okay, what were you about to say there, Ben?

01:13:09.000 I was just going to say, disc golf is one of the greatest activities.

01:13:12.000 It's, you know, it's free in most parks.

01:13:15.000 It costs about $50 to get a set of discs.

01:13:18.000 And it's something I'm very passionate about.

01:13:19.000 So it's really, you know, maybe it'll just give you a little more peace and clarity in your life if you got off the disc golf course and threw 18 holes once in a while.

01:13:26.000 Well, I tell you what, maybe we'll do that for Nash Wednesday, where you teach me to disc golf.

01:13:30.000 I've actually never golfed.

01:13:32.000 The only golf I ever did was in high school, and it was in a Canadian high school, and it was very cheap.

01:13:36.000 We did wiffle ball golf because they didn't trust us with actual balls.

01:13:40.000 And I was pretty good at wiffle ball golf.

01:13:43.000 So that's the only golf I've ever played.

01:13:45.000 And I live near a golf course and I just, so I still get balls in my yard.

01:13:49.000 And what I do is I collect them and I separate them by brand.

01:13:51.000 And then when I see a ball go over the fence that's of similar brand, I dump that entire bucket of the brand of ball just to ruin their day.

01:13:59.000 They're kind of pumped.

01:14:00.000 So golf is way more pretentious and expensive.

01:14:03.000 Disc golf is just a bunch of dudes out in the park throwing some discs.

01:14:07.000 Really good crowd of people.

01:14:09.000 By the way, your podcast, for people who don't know, you're a pretty unabashedly libertarian supporter of cryptocurrency, which I don't understand.

01:14:16.000 Is it Flow Wrestling Radio Live?

01:14:20.000 So I do actually three podcasts.

01:14:23.000 I do, I'm on Flow Wrestling, Tuesday and Wednesdays and Thursday mornings.

01:14:26.000 I am on, usually we're not going today and we're switching to Tuesdays, but the Funky Crypto Podcast, we talk about crypto.

01:14:33.000 And then I do an MMA one with a guy named Brian who got kicked off Twitter unfairly.

01:14:37.000 I remember him.

01:14:39.000 And we just kind of go whenever we feel like it.

01:14:41.000 We don't really have a schedule, just once in a while.

01:14:44.000 Okay, so let me ask you this.

01:14:45.000 I don't want to talk about, like you said, you know, you just threw it in my face.

01:14:48.000 You don't want to talk about the fight.

01:14:49.000 Can I ask you about this, though?

01:14:50.000 You can talk about it.

01:14:51.000 That event.

01:14:53.000 Was, and I hope you don't take offense to this, was legitimately the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

01:14:59.000 It set an entire generation back. 0.65

01:15:02.000 I mean, I was watching going, so is this just women just hump and twerk? 1.00

01:15:07.000 I scolded the owner of the business when they came to my locker room. 0.91

01:15:10.000 That's live on camera.

01:15:12.000 I just, I don't know if you saw the one where the one, the guy, the person of color in the one floor of the cuckoo's nest had his hat. 1.00

01:15:18.000 He was yelling, bitch was his that was his catchphrase bitch and this girl 1.00

01:15:22.000 is in a mesh bodysuit she turns around grabs with her fingers and spreads the bottom of her butt 1.00

01:15:28.000 cheeks like how's that person gonna tell their kids to be home at curfew i don't understand i uh um

01:15:33.000 no i did i don't recall seeing that part but yeah i mean so uh pete davidson can interview me and

01:15:41.000 the behind the cameras was i believe the executive producer of the show um pete davidson was no pete

01:15:48.000 davis interviewed me Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:51.000 We sat down, okay?

01:15:52.000 And then the executive producer of the show was, like, behind the camera.

01:15:55.000 Okay.

01:15:55.000 And I said, hey man, uh, Bert, Bert, hey, you know, I have a lot of my wrestling kids watching this.

01:16:01.000 I mean, my brother and I have owned five academies.

01:16:04.000 I can't even imagine what their parents are thinking right now.

01:16:07.000 I feel so effing guilty that their parents are either having to, like, kick them out or, like, explain to them what the hell is going on right here.

01:16:14.000 Or they've been banging on the bathroom door for the last hour and a half going, get out now!

01:16:18.000 Yeah, um, yeah, I mean, and I like to be kind of socially liberal, but, oh, that was, uh... No, no, no, no.

01:16:26.000 This is beyond socially liberal.

01:16:28.000 Like, I would say, you couldn't do this in a strip club in the 70s.

01:16:32.000 And I just, and I mean, I was, I honestly thought, I'm not going to make it to your fight.

01:16:36.000 It was about, it was about two and a half hours.

01:16:37.000 There's no, no fight.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, the first fight was a DJ versus a boxer, which was really, really strange.

01:16:45.000 Yeah, but then it was it was a very long time till the next fight came up.

01:16:50.000 Mostly musical performances and dancing.

01:16:52.000 And yeah, I you know, I maybe I'm America's dad, but I did find the entertainment to be very distasteful.

01:16:59.000 And actually, I think everyone in my locker room kind of felt similarly.

01:17:03.000 Really?

01:17:03.000 And these are fighters, but here's the thing.

01:17:05.000 What are you going to do in, you know, 10 years when your kids grow up?

01:17:07.000 They're going to find this on the internet.

01:17:09.000 And I'm like, let me go watch some of dad's old fights.

01:17:11.000 And they'll have to get through, you know, 140 minutes of stripping.

01:17:17.000 I'm sure they could just type in the name of the fight and they would find just the clip.

01:17:23.000 I'm sure.

01:17:24.000 I'm sure they're not going to need to watch the whole production.

01:17:27.000 So that is positive.

01:17:29.000 I mean, obviously, there's the obvious that I'm sure kids are finding worse than this on YouTube and Instagram, unfortunately.

01:17:37.000 But yeah, I didn't love it.

01:17:38.000 No, I can't.

01:17:39.000 I just, I felt genuinely depressed when I was watching.

01:17:42.000 I was going, oh my gosh, if this is what, uh, I've heard of people being out of touch with the youth culture.

01:17:46.000 I was like, this is, uh, you know, this is not Beatles.

01:17:49.000 I want to hold your hand.

01:17:50.000 Or I was saying, even going back to Salt-N-Pepa, you know, push it.

01:17:52.000 That was considered scandalous.

01:17:55.000 It was, back when it happened.

01:17:56.000 Push it good.

01:17:57.000 And then I'm watching it.

01:17:59.000 My wife, this is the truth, I go, hey, you have to watch this. 0.99

01:18:01.000 This is a disaster because everyone's high at the, which I assume the executive producer was too.

01:18:06.000 I said, sweetheart, you got to come up.

01:18:08.000 Everyone's high.

01:18:08.000 Everyone's drunk.

01:18:09.000 This is going to be like, I'm tuning in for the fight.

01:18:10.000 This is crazy.

01:18:11.000 And then she walks up and then it's just like, and then she goes, oh, what are you watching?

01:18:17.000 I swear, it wasn't this!

01:18:19.000 Before you came up, there was a fight!

01:18:22.000 It was 20 minutes of just undulation.

01:18:26.000 My wife was hoping that Kanye and Bieber would do a Sunday service to redeem what we watched on Saturday night.

01:18:33.000 You know what?

01:18:34.000 I don't personally smoke pot, but I don't have anything really against it for certain adults.

01:18:40.000 But the glorification of it was kind of strange to me.

01:18:44.000 I mean, they were really...

01:18:45.000 Put it up there on a pedestal and that was like, kind of eye roll.

01:18:48.000 Well yeah, Oscar had been doing some other stuff.

01:18:50.000 Oscar De La Hoya, that's what happens when you combine uppers and downers.

01:18:53.000 Well yeah, Oscar had been doing some other stuff.

01:18:57.000 He didn't even get it in the name, he was going, go USSR baby! 1.00

01:19:00.000 And there's a guy that was on the Navy ship, USSFA, he's like, USSR baby! 1.00

01:19:04.000 Go! 0.95

01:19:04.000 Go, baby! 0.95

01:19:05.000 U.S.S.R.!

01:19:06.000 Like, does he think he's watching Rocky IV?

01:19:08.000 So, anyway, well listen, Ben, I know it's been a weird day today, and look, I really appreciate you getting in there and taking a swing at it.

01:19:18.000 And look, let's do a segment here in the future where you can teach me disc golf, and I'll be sure to not enjoy it, but be a good sport.

01:19:26.000 You might really enjoy it.

01:19:27.000 Where do you guys live?

01:19:28.000 We're in the general state of Texas.

01:19:30.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 But you're still in Wisconsin, right?

01:19:33.000 So I'm a Michigan guy.

01:19:34.000 Are you in Austin?

01:19:36.000 Austin, Texas?

01:19:36.000 Come on, I'm not going to do that right now.

01:19:37.000 Terrorists are watching.

01:19:38.000 But I spend a lot of time in... You could just say, like, the general of the city.

01:19:41.000 Austin's, like, 60 miles wide.

01:19:43.000 Well, listen, you know what?

01:19:45.000 I don't know.

01:19:46.000 You know what?

01:19:46.000 Let's just put a pin in where Alex Jones is in Austin and just assume that I live there.

01:19:50.000 But I'm in the Midwest quite a bit.

01:19:51.000 You know, all my family, they live in Michigan.

01:19:54.000 I was born in Michigan.

01:19:55.000 And, you know, the UP is ours.

01:19:57.000 Sorry about that, Wisconsin.

01:19:58.000 That's weird.

01:19:59.000 It's really, really weird that that belongs to Michigan.

01:20:02.000 I know.

01:20:05.000 But, oh well!

01:20:06.000 Enjoy your non-U.P.

01:20:08.000 Wisconsin.

01:20:09.000 We'll be in touch and we'll do the Disc Golf.

01:20:11.000 Where's your Twitter, Ben, where people can find you?

01:20:14.000 It's just Ben Askin on everything.

01:20:16.000 I've got 23 holes of Disc Golf at my house.

01:20:18.000 Not open to the public, but you're invited if you want to come, Steven.

01:20:22.000 And then my brother and I own five wrestling academies.

01:20:26.000 People were upset that I was smiling afterwards with my wife. 0.98

01:20:29.000 I told all of you people before I took this fight, I don't give a shit about the result. 0.98

01:20:33.000 When I'm in there, I'm going to try to fight hard. 0.87

01:20:36.000 But at the end of the day, on Monday, I'm going to go back to podcasting and coaching wrestling.

01:20:40.000 And my wife said something funny to me, and I laughed, and people are upset about it.

01:20:43.000 They really need to get a life, and I think they're trying to export their own emotions on me.

01:20:48.000 Well, I think, if anything, they should be more upset about the fact that after Jake Paul won, he sobbed like he had just defeated Marvin Hagler.

01:20:59.000 Also, I didn't get the In Memoriam.

01:21:00.000 It's like they have DMX and then also Shadow, and I was like, well, that's Jake Paul's bodyguard, and it's sad, but this is just, everything is weird.

01:21:08.000 So, all right, Funky Ben, thank you so much.

01:21:10.000 We'll be in touch, brother.

01:21:11.000 Appreciate it.

01:21:12.000 Rest up.

01:21:13.000 Have a great day.

01:21:14.000 All right, let's go back to the, like I said, it's a weird mix today.

01:21:14.000 You too.

01:21:14.000 Bye.

01:21:19.000 Has nobody ever done a sketch, it's just so sad DMX is dead.

01:21:23.000 I know.

01:21:24.000 Where were you going with this?

01:21:25.000 I was going to say, I just got real depressed.

01:21:27.000 It looks like right now in the trial that they're trying to make the case for second-degree murder.

01:21:30.000 Oh, okay, sorry, but then we'll go back to your DMX sketch, which I'm sure is light entertainment.

01:21:35.000 You go to the DMV, but it's DMX.

01:21:38.000 Get it?

01:21:40.000 That he did not consent to this.

01:21:41.000 Now, the state does not have to prove, well, we don't have to prove about intent, we don't have to show that the defendant intended to cause George Floyd harm.

01:21:49.000 Don't have to show that.

01:21:51.000 You don't need to find... But you said he meant to!

01:21:53.000 So you do now!

01:21:54.000 Because you said he meant to!

01:21:56.000 You said he did it on purpose!

01:21:58.000 That he meant to win!

01:21:59.000 So it does matter!

01:22:01.000 Because of you!

01:22:02.000 But just in case you don't believe us.

01:22:03.000 Yeah.

01:22:04.000 Oh, the loop-de-loops.

01:22:05.000 We don't have to show that the defendant intended to kill him.

01:22:08.000 The only thing about the defendant's intent that we have to prove is that he applied force to George Floyd on purpose.

01:22:17.000 That this wasn't an accident.

01:22:19.000 And it's pretty simple.

01:22:21.000 You know, if you're doing something that hurts somebody, and you know it, and you keep doing it, you're doing it on purpose.

01:22:30.000 Put your right knee in, take your right knee out.

01:22:33.000 Shake it all about.

01:22:34.000 I guess I know what segment just made the news for us.

01:22:40.000 Somebody's telling you they can't breathe, and you keep doing it.

01:22:45.000 He said he couldn't breathe before he got in the car!

01:22:50.000 Well, so does 98% of the people who get pulled over now, so that doesn't really apply.

01:22:55.000 He knows what happens when you push somebody.

01:22:59.000 They yell, I can't breathe and they toss the spray paint can to the graffiti artist for the mural.

01:23:06.000 This is my good side.

01:23:07.000 That's awful.

01:23:08.000 Jesus Christ.

01:23:09.000 Sorry.

01:23:10.000 I know you guys don't like that word.

01:23:11.000 Assault in the third degree.

01:23:12.000 Yes.

01:23:13.000 We love that.

01:23:14.000 It requires that the defendant inflicted substantial bodily harm.

01:23:19.000 That was just road rash.

01:23:21.000 On his fingers?

01:23:22.000 Yeah, but...

01:23:23.000 And that's what happens if you're in a concrete...

01:23:24.000 I mean, I don't know...

01:23:25.000 Again, this is all predicated on the idea that cops shouldn't do anything that is uncomfortable

01:23:30.000 or unpleasant.

01:23:31.000 I don't understand this.

01:23:32.000 If you kick a cop and you are actively resisting arrest and you are on concrete, you should expect a little bit of rug burn.

01:23:39.000 None of that is relevant.

01:23:43.000 I had worse from when Gibbon handcuffed me the wrong way.

01:23:46.000 That's true.

01:23:47.000 You came in here with some red wrists. 0.99

01:23:49.000 There were those marks like I had slept on a waffle iron.

01:23:53.000 Well his fingers were ripped open.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, I was ripped open here.

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:57.000 Was it?

01:23:58.000 You bet it looks ripped.

01:23:59.000 He's unconscious.

01:24:01.000 He's lost consciousness.

01:24:02.000 That's substantial.

01:24:04.000 Ever known a dabble?

01:24:05.000 Yeah.

01:24:06.000 You ever need a spotter?

01:24:07.000 It's a workout called dabble.

01:24:08.000 I'm proprietary.

01:24:12.000 I'd love to be a spotter.

01:24:13.000 I don't lift much weight, but I like to watch.

01:24:17.000 Thanks, Chauncey.

01:24:21.000 Second degree murder.

01:24:23.000 The defendant caused George Floyd's death.

01:24:25.000 He did.

01:24:27.000 The state proved that beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:24:30.000 I didn't know.

01:24:31.000 And at the time of causing the death... Please stop calling yourself the state.

01:24:36.000 They didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:24:38.000 This guy is really... I mean, I guess I'm surprised that they're just allowed to be this dishonest in closing statements.

01:24:43.000 It depends on where you come from, right?

01:24:45.000 If you came into this thinking he was guilty, then yeah, of course, everything they said just lined up with your view.

01:24:50.000 But if you came in objectively, you have some questions.

01:24:53.000 Yeah, well, I'm just saying everything that he just said is dishonest in the sense that he said, you know, he called for his mother.

01:24:57.000 No, he was trying to call his girlfriend.

01:24:58.000 He, you know, he had been taking a bunch of drugs, so he had a tolerance, but you said that he actually didn't have a tolerance.

01:25:04.000 He allegedly counterfeit.

01:25:05.000 No, it was actually counterfeit.

01:25:06.000 So it's just that I'm not talking about the opinion as to whether George Floyd, whether Chauvin not effectively turning over and performing CPR on George Floyd.

01:25:17.000 I'm not talking about the opinion that that is what a police officer should do in that scenario.

01:25:21.000 I'm talking about the misstatements that are verifiably false that he's made.

01:25:26.000 If this, if we were actually to have an honest conversation here, look, if you remove the riots, okay, if you remove the pressure from Maxine Waters, if you remove the defund the police movement, you take all this away, this would distill to, and it would be a very boring trial, it would distill to, look, Cop was well within his rights to do what he did. You have

01:25:43.000 a serial felon. He was committing a crime right there He was actively resisting arrest. They tried to put him in

01:25:48.000 a cop could they try to put him in the car?

01:25:50.000 He refused to go in he swallowed a bunch of drugs his drugs were that this was a level of drugs in his system

01:25:55.000 He had congenital heart disease. He had arthrosclerosis He had kovat while he was on the ground

01:26:01.000 He was claiming he couldn't breathe, but he already claimed that and it would really just come down to okay

01:26:06.000 What is the police protocol if you have someone on the ground and at a certain and they stop moving when you're

01:26:12.000 surrounded by a crowd?

01:26:13.000 And waiting for paramedics It really should come down to that.

01:26:15.000 Are you required by police protocol at that point to yourself perform CPR?

01:26:20.000 And the answer to that, and it was very clear in the trial, is in some scenarios, you're actually not forbidden, but you're actually advised not to if there's a potentially unruly crowd so that the paramedics can do their job and you can get people to disperse.

01:26:32.000 That's what this really should distill to, and is a conversation where we could all have opinions.

01:26:38.000 Well, look, okay, and maybe the problem there lies with the police department not training people properly.

01:26:43.000 The problem is you can never have an honest conversation when you've lit a powder keg, and right now everyone is afraid.

01:26:50.000 They're afraid that if they don't convict this guy on second-degree murder or first-degree murder, that these jurors, they're afraid they're going to be responsible for another Two dozen deaths.

01:27:00.000 For another, what is it, five, six, seven hundred officer casualties.

01:27:03.000 For another two billion dollars in damages to businesses.

01:27:06.000 These jurors, right, that's the problem.

01:27:08.000 They're not listening to the actual facts of the case.

01:27:12.000 This is charged by design because of the Maxine Waters of the world.

01:27:15.000 Well, I agree with that, yeah.

01:27:17.000 I think really what it comes down to in the meat of this is we need to just get rid of firefighters, and when there's riots, call a twerk engine, and they can come and put everything out with their wop.

01:27:27.000 Yes, that's a great idea, though.

01:27:30.000 It's really what it comes down to, guys.

01:27:31.000 We need to have a public stockpile of penicillin, but sure.

01:27:34.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you don't want to touch any of the lumber for a few days.

01:27:41.000 Were you about to say something there?

01:27:41.000 Yeah, so far on Twitter, the only thing trending is Steve Schleicher, the name of the prosecutor.

01:27:47.000 But also, you know, we just said he's trying to prove second-degree murder, and we have this from the Minnesota Office of the Revisor of Statutes.

01:27:56.000 Second-degree murder causes the death of a human being without intent to affect the death of any person while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct.

01:28:06.000 So that's what they have to prove, that he was trying to commit a felony offense.

01:28:09.000 Why does it exclude felony sexual conduct?

01:28:11.000 That's a good question.

01:28:12.000 Like, if you, if you, like, it's like, oh no, no, no, it's not second-degree murder! 0.98

01:28:14.000 I was just trying to rape this broad! 1.00

01:28:17.000 Like, oh! 1.00

01:28:18.000 Trying to get sorry!

01:28:19.000 Never sets a slap on the wrist!

01:28:20.000 I'm just doing me, baby!

01:28:21.000 I don't know!

01:28:23.000 Are you committing second-degree murder?

01:28:24.000 No, no, no! 1.00

01:28:25.000 She's a hooker! 1.00

01:28:26.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:28:27.000 Oh, it's fine. 1.00

01:28:27.000 You can kill those for free. 1.00

01:28:29.000 Your rap sheet's loaded with dead hookers. 1.00

01:28:32.000 I don't know what you... It's not a real... It's not a second-degree murder. 1.00

01:28:35.000 How do you get a refund from a hooker, huh? 1.00

01:28:37.000 You kill her, right? 1.00

01:28:38.000 Right. 1.00

01:28:39.000 Alright, I'm gonna go.

01:28:40.000 That's a second-degree murder.

01:28:42.000 Really, if anything, it's second-degree robbery.

01:28:44.000 What the hooker charged me? 0.99

01:28:46.000 So anyways, that's probably the least of my worries, but it is weird to me that they exclude the felony sexual assault.

01:28:51.000 However, it does show that someone needs to be committing a felony for it to be second-degree murder.

01:28:55.000 Felony assault.

01:28:56.000 Felony assault.

01:28:57.000 In which case, guess what?

01:28:59.000 Why do you think they're having a hard time recruiting police officers right now?

01:29:02.000 Because people keep killing them.

01:29:04.000 Yeah, because people keep killing them.

01:29:06.000 Not only that, but You're worried now, when you go out and do your job, if I try and restrain somebody and they happen to be hopped up on drugs, it could be felony assault and second-degree murder.

01:29:16.000 Who would take that risk at this point?

01:29:18.000 I wouldn't.

01:29:18.000 I mean, they need to at least put 50 bucks out to the applicants.

01:29:22.000 It might help sweeten the pot.

01:29:25.000 No, I really do feel bad for a lot of police officers, which is words that I thought I would never say. 0.91

01:29:30.000 And as I've grown up and been an adult and taken responsibility for my own shortcomings, you have to realize that the police are there for a reason and defunding them is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 Well, part of me thinks that when they're arresting people for defending themselves against the Antifa, it's like, all right, you know what?

01:29:45.000 Defund them.

01:29:45.000 Let the cards fall where they may.

01:29:47.000 You kneelers before BLM and arresters of ladies wearing double masks.

01:29:51.000 So just so you know, I'm not saying that police are your friends all the time.

01:29:55.000 And police who are willing to go along with the state and remove your liberties, that's a problem too.

01:29:59.000 And that's why we have a Second Amendment. 1.00

01:30:01.000 Someone shouldn't be allowed to come into your house, or like they do in Canada, and say, you have more than three people here.

01:30:06.000 We're going to arrest you.

01:30:07.000 We're going to break up your place of worship. 1.00

01:30:08.000 The Ontario thing is ridiculous. 0.99

01:30:10.000 It's a police state, right? 1.00

01:30:11.000 It is.

01:30:12.000 It really is the closest. 0.92

01:30:13.000 When people throw a Nazi all the time, like, you voted for Trump, you're a Nazi.

01:30:16.000 I think when people in masks and guns show up and shut down your church and threaten arresting you, that's as close to the Gestapo as you get.

01:30:16.000 I don't know.

01:30:24.000 But didn't tell the neighbors to call in other neighbors.

01:30:26.000 Well, it obviously, it got worse.

01:30:28.000 They can now stop you for no reason whatsoever to find out why you're out from your home.

01:30:32.000 Yeah.

01:30:33.000 Whether you have a mask on or not. 0.97

01:30:34.000 It's disgusting.

01:30:35.000 It looks like the prosecution's about to say that Chauvin was on his neck. 0.92

01:30:38.000 Okay.

01:30:39.000 Alright, let's go.

01:30:41.000 Indifference.

01:30:45.000 Does the defendant ever listen?

01:30:49.000 Ever consider medical attention?

01:30:53.000 The paramedics were already called.

01:30:54.000 The EMT.

01:30:56.000 Decision.

01:30:57.000 The failure to give CPR.

01:30:59.000 Not even Dr. Fowler.

01:31:01.000 This isn't protection.

01:31:03.000 This isn't courage.

01:31:05.000 And it certainly, certainly is not and was not compassion.

01:31:09.000 It was the opposite of that.

01:31:19.000 So back to the instructions.

01:31:21.000 Everything here is an emotional play.

01:31:23.000 You know who else didn't give CPR if I remember correctly?

01:31:26.000 They loaded him up first and then did CPR in the bus because it was too dangerous on the street.

01:31:26.000 The paramedics.

01:31:30.000 Sons of bitches. 1.00

01:31:32.000 I like how now there's no problem explaining voting. 1.00

01:31:38.000 The state proved that.

01:31:40.000 I wonder if they ask any of those jurors for picture ideas.

01:31:40.000 No.

01:31:43.000 Did the defendant act with a mental state consisting of reckless disregard for human life, a conscious indifference to the loss of life... No.

01:31:54.000 Limb difference.

01:31:55.000 ...that the dangerous, that the eminently dangerous act could cause?

01:32:00.000 Yes, he did.

01:32:03.000 And you will find... Well, how do you have a reckless disregard for human life and then intentional?

01:32:09.000 Which is what they have up top.

01:32:10.000 So how do you check both of them?

01:32:11.000 Either it was intentional, or it was a disregard and it was reckless.

01:32:16.000 Someone can't be intentionally reckless.

01:32:18.000 There's a fifth element?

01:32:19.000 Have you ever seen me dance, son?

01:32:21.000 I assume it's what I just called dad wedding dance.

01:32:25.000 Yeah.

01:32:27.000 Sorry guys, I'm intentionally reckless.

01:32:32.000 Hey, DJ's got any Paul Anka?

01:32:34.000 Lock me up!

01:32:37.000 First degree rippin' up a rug.

01:32:41.000 I really can't, Dan.

01:32:42.000 That sounds like a Disney one-liner, like some chipmunk or something like that.

01:32:46.000 Yeah, what's it?

01:32:47.000 First degree, whippin' up a rug! 0.88

01:32:48.000 Shake what your mama gave ya!

01:32:50.000 Turn the left.

01:32:50.000 Alvin!

01:32:51.000 I have a kid.

01:32:52.000 Don't think I don't watch Alvin and the Chipmunks movies.

01:32:55.000 I just watched Chipwrecked recently.

01:32:56.000 Oh, really?

01:32:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:58.000 Oh, wow.

01:32:58.000 Is that the worst thing you can watch?

01:32:59.000 Well, you know what?

01:33:00.000 You really, uh, now I think, uh... You could watch the beginning of a fight.

01:33:03.000 This is a, this is a looking glass into my future.

01:33:06.000 I think I need to go home and turn my wife into a real life Lifetime movie. 1.00

01:33:10.000 Hey, look, stairs!

01:33:12.000 Oh no!

01:33:13.000 Eric Roberts and Meredith Baxter-Burney in Uh-Oh Stairs!

01:33:18.000 They took my stairs, Charlie!

01:33:22.000 My stairs!

01:33:26.000 Just standing in front of an empty staircase trying to go up.

01:33:30.000 Name that movie reference.

01:33:34.000 It's one of the best.

01:33:36.000 A lot of people don't know it.

01:33:37.000 Biden has to have something to follow up.

01:33:39.000 That's true.

01:33:43.000 With the defendant, his specialized knowledge about the dangers of positional asphyxia and the common sense that if you put your knee on somebody's neck Uh, nope.

01:33:51.000 There's a strong probability of injury.

01:33:53.000 He knew that too.

01:33:55.000 Great bodily harm, bodily injury that creates a high probability of death.

01:34:00.000 Uh, nope.

01:34:02.000 Then you are blaming the police department because it's been used

01:34:05.000 several hundred times and this is how they teach people.

01:34:08.000 Again, you can disagree, you can have a problem with that control position.

01:34:12.000 I do, mainly because it's not very effective.

01:34:14.000 Anyone out there who's done high school, college wrestling, or has gotten to a blue belt in Brazilian Judo, anyone out there, let me know.

01:34:20.000 Judo, you know, that's not a pin that would work.

01:34:22.000 That's my problem with it.

01:34:23.000 However, my problem is with... Why is that playing?

01:34:27.000 It's a pin.

01:34:29.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:34:32.000 My problem is with the police department training people that way.

01:34:36.000 It's not good training.

01:34:37.000 So if you're upset about it, you also need to understand the target of your ire.

01:34:42.000 It's not Chavez.

01:34:43.000 Yeah, especially if he's done it several times and not had any problems.

01:34:47.000 I have no idea if that's the case, but I'm guessing it is not the first time that he's done it.

01:34:51.000 Hundreds of officers have.

01:34:52.000 Because they were also taught that.

01:34:52.000 Yeah.

01:34:54.000 They didn't die.

01:34:55.000 Right.

01:34:55.000 Yeah.

01:34:57.000 I just think there is the possibility if he did know him and didn't like him, Well, he just said he didn't know him.

01:35:04.000 He did?

01:35:04.000 Yeah, the prosecutor said that.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, when he said he didn't know him, and so he just called, he had no idea who he was.

01:35:09.000 Officer.

01:35:10.000 Well, then what's all that I've been hearing?

01:35:12.000 Where were you?

01:35:14.000 That's the point we were making!

01:35:16.000 I know, I'm kidding.

01:35:17.000 I know.

01:35:18.000 Exhibit 119.

01:35:20.000 You take a look at all of the in-services, all of the hours.

01:35:24.000 He knew what to do.

01:35:25.000 He just didn't do it.

01:35:27.000 He knew better.

01:35:28.000 He didn't do better.

01:35:30.000 What is that, his CPR thing?

01:35:32.000 Wasn't that Biden's campaign slogan?

01:35:37.000 Build back better.

01:35:39.000 I don't know better.

01:35:40.000 I don't know better building.

01:35:43.000 Rocks in my brain.

01:35:44.000 Bob, the builder?

01:35:45.000 He was exploring doors.

01:35:50.000 Sorry about your husband, let me touch your kid's face.

01:35:55.000 Come on, let me smell.

01:35:59.000 That's only, you know, it's only a sniffer.

01:36:02.000 It's just snot.

01:36:04.000 We all do it.

01:36:05.000 It's natural.

01:36:06.000 I need you to pull over at this park.

01:36:08.000 I gotta go sniff the swings.

01:36:13.000 Not the wooden ones, you know, the rubber.

01:36:17.000 It's porous.

01:36:22.000 They keep my secrets.

01:36:25.000 Finding the murder was committed, the manslaughter was committed, you have another thing to consider.

01:36:32.000 And that is, was this just okay?

01:36:35.000 Was this fine?

01:36:37.000 Is this okay?

01:36:38.000 Because the defendant was a police officer?

01:36:40.000 Was this an authorized use of force?

01:36:44.000 Was it justified?

01:36:47.000 Was it justified?

01:36:52.000 It was not.

01:36:53.000 Oh.

01:36:53.000 I thought he was asking me.

01:36:57.000 I had some time to ponder.

01:37:01.000 I didn't know we had Mr. Walking Cheat Sheet over here.

01:37:05.000 I thought he was ordering a sandwich with that stupid glass cage he's in. 1.00

01:37:09.000 I hate it every time I see it. 1.00

01:37:12.000 No one's gonna get germs at this murder trial.

01:37:14.000 We can save one life, Dave.

01:37:19.000 If only one. 0.95

01:37:19.000 Over my next dead body. 0.95

01:37:20.000 if only one, over my next dead body.

01:37:24.000 We need the facts and circumstances to see whether these actions, the defendant's actions,

01:37:30.000 were objectively reasonable.

01:37:33.000 Expert witness said yes.

01:37:34.000 Not only that, not objectively reasonable, were they objectively taught to the police

01:37:40.000 department?

01:37:41.000 No, the expert witness even used those words.

01:37:44.000 Kroll used those words and said it was an objectively reasonable use of force.

01:37:49.000 Germs aren't six feet and under.

01:37:52.000 They can go up...

01:37:55.000 I'm just saying.

01:37:56.000 The whole thing is annoying.

01:37:58.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:37:59.000 His lies.

01:37:59.000 It's called the germ nino effect.

01:38:02.000 Oh, that's true.

01:38:03.000 If they get high enough, they just get sucked out of the room.

01:38:04.000 Depending on the temperature of the room.

01:38:06.000 And then all of a sudden you're like, what is that?

01:38:07.000 Is that a flying Humboldt squid?

01:38:09.000 Yeah, man.

01:38:09.000 That's weird.

01:38:11.000 Little marine biology humor there.

01:38:13.000 I liked it.

01:38:13.000 The niche.

01:38:16.000 Alright, play this.

01:38:16.000 I gotta pee.

01:38:17.000 You guys all left and peed and I'm the only one who didn't.

01:38:19.000 Keep it going!

01:38:20.000 I figured we were gonna be here for quite a while.

01:38:21.000 I didn't pee, but I did go into the bathroom.

01:38:24.000 Right, boys?

01:38:26.000 No?

01:38:26.000 Alright.

01:38:27.000 You're a terrible person. 0.99

01:38:28.000 I was giving the Heimlich to someone. 1.00

01:38:30.000 What?

01:38:32.000 You don't ever do that?

01:38:34.000 No!

01:38:35.000 Go to the bathroom and just give someone the Heimlich who's not ready for it?

01:38:39.000 Stop it, Dave.

01:38:41.000 Sneak up behind him and go, you look like you need the Heimlich.

01:38:45.000 Come on, Gerald.

01:38:48.000 Come on, Gerald.

01:38:48.000 Gerald, how tall are you?

01:38:50.000 6'4".

01:38:51.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:38:52.000 I could barely even have to kneel down.

01:38:54.000 That'll work.

01:38:57.000 I don't think this is what Steven meant.

01:39:00.000 All I'm saying is, we go to the bathroom, you get the Heimlich, I bring a stepladder.

01:39:04.000 Let's get weird.

01:39:05.000 Come on, man.

01:39:07.000 Come on.

01:39:08.000 Disappoint your lord.

01:39:09.000 But under the law you don't look at it from the defendant's perspective either.

01:39:17.000 Yeah you do. That's the other side of it. And the evidence in this case has shown

01:39:24.000 over and over that the defendant is not that officer because he did not act as a

01:39:31.000 reasonable officer. Does anyone else hate that woman's shoes as much as I do?

01:39:35.000 They just, it's like what are they, sandals or are they...

01:39:38.000 What's going on there?

01:39:39.000 Make a choice.

01:39:41.000 And live with it.

01:39:42.000 I bet you that, I guarantee you there's just vodka in that bottle, too.

01:39:47.000 It's water.

01:39:48.000 It's a long day here and the employers like to bloviate.

01:39:51.000 Just knowing when she pulls out, it's like, ah, I might have to just drive into 80 people lighting the city on fire.

01:39:58.000 Might as well have a party while doing it.

01:40:00.000 That was his justification for using this level of force.

01:40:04.000 He's a big guy.

01:40:05.000 He's a sizable guy.

01:40:06.000 He might be on something.

01:40:09.000 We have to control him.

01:40:10.000 Control is the restraint.

01:40:12.000 So that's the force.

01:40:13.000 There's two justifications for that.

01:40:16.000 George Floyd was big and that he might be on something.

01:40:20.000 Which he was!

01:40:21.000 He outweighed Chauvin by 50 pounds.

01:40:26.000 Well, bigger than you would be a threat, right?

01:40:33.000 Yeah.

01:40:33.000 I'd say he outweighed Floyd by like 60 pounds or 70 pounds, right?

01:40:36.000 Because the gear on, I think Floyd with all his gear was 183, so not just body weight.

01:40:42.000 Yeah, he was a big guy.

01:40:42.000 I'm sorry, Chauvin.

01:40:45.000 Chauvin with all the stuff on him.

01:40:50.000 I'm heavier than Chauvin because I don't eat right.

01:40:54.000 Hold on, the point he's making right now that being big is not a crime...

01:40:58.000 Tell that to Tess Holliday. 1.00

01:41:00.000 Tell that to me, because everybody acts like being short is a crime.

01:41:02.000 Don't do the reenaction, Stephen.

01:41:04.000 Look at that.

01:41:05.000 Somebody got the Heimlich.

01:41:08.000 What is this, the Jake Paul fight?

01:41:10.000 Yeah, no kidding.

01:41:12.000 I thought you didn't like that stuff.

01:41:17.000 Hey, hey, language.

01:41:20.000 I didn't know you meant to be off camera.

01:41:22.000 I said, because they don't want to be associated with the show.

01:41:27.000 The Schweppes Camper Incorporation?

01:41:30.000 And all their subsidiaries?

01:41:32.000 There's Frito-Lay!

01:41:33.000 There's Canada Drive!

01:41:35.000 I don't know why it sounds like the Charlie in the Box.

01:41:38.000 I know!

01:41:38.000 Nugget wants to play with a Gerald in the Box!

01:41:43.000 He got a head injury.

01:41:44.000 He was cleaning the WAP stage last week and he slipped.

01:41:48.000 Nobody cares about that brand anyway.

01:41:50.000 Alright, let me watch the board.

01:41:51.000 Did I miss anything important?

01:41:52.000 No, not really.

01:41:53.000 Dave was going to do untold things to me and that's not... I was simply asking if I could meet him in the men's room.

01:41:58.000 You know what, by the way, we can take some of the Mug Club chat since we're going a little bit late today.

01:42:02.000 We'll still go to MugClubOnlyLivewithCutter.com slash Mug Club, but if we want to bring up some Mug Club chat as this goes on, that way people on YouTube know that we don't allow the YouTube chat because...

01:42:11.000 We don't want to give them any more support than we have.

01:42:13.000 Filthy.

01:42:14.000 Alright, let me go on with this.

01:42:15.000 And the language.

01:42:16.000 Hypotheticals.

01:42:18.000 Talked about a lot of stuff that didn't happen.

01:42:22.000 Like you presenting a case.

01:42:23.000 What did happen.

01:42:24.000 I'd pay a hundred bucks if he just got up. 1.00

01:42:26.000 Everything that guy said is bullshit. 0.99

01:42:29.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:42:30.000 Couldn't you just... Thank you.

01:42:35.000 Have you been drinking?

01:42:36.000 I've had a few Chardonnays, what of it?

01:42:40.000 Is a mimosa drinking?

01:42:42.000 Come on, it's a breakfast thing.

01:42:43.000 Right, guy?

01:42:44.000 It's got O.J.

01:42:45.000 in it.

01:42:45.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 Who wants to get loose? 0.53

01:42:47.000 I have those little crystal sherry glasses with a hard-boiled egg.

01:42:51.000 Yeah.

01:42:52.000 You usually leave the egg. 1.00

01:42:54.000 Hey, short pants girl with the dumb clog shoes. 1.00

01:42:58.000 Do you wanna have a mimosa with me? 0.99

01:43:00.000 In my van?

01:43:01.000 Down by the river.

01:43:02.000 What?!

01:43:02.000 Are you out of your tree, sir?!

01:43:04.000 Think about it!

01:43:05.000 by the river.

01:43:06.000 ...arm, twisted his wrist, so it would buck up against the handcuff.

01:43:10.000 A pain compliance technique without the opportunity to comply is simply the inflection of pain.

01:43:16.000 What?

01:43:19.000 Oh! 0.60

01:43:20.000 Are you out of your tree, sir?

01:43:21.000 Think about it.

01:43:22.000 No ability to comply.

01:43:23.000 Yeah.

01:43:24.000 Get in the car?

01:43:25.000 No.

01:43:25.000 We're going to leave the window open?

01:43:27.000 No.

01:43:27.000 We're going to turn on the air?

01:43:28.000 No. 0.97

01:43:28.000 Kick the officer and put him down? 0.97

01:43:30.000 If you're not allowed, this is my point, and Dave I know where you line up here, but this is my point.

01:43:34.000 I think this is very important.

01:43:36.000 If you don't believe that in that scenario, an officer can use a compliance technique, you don't believe that police officers have the right to use compliance techniques.

01:43:45.000 It's like when they say, why don't you just use a taser?

01:43:47.000 But then they say, don't use a taser.

01:43:49.000 Listen, if you don't believe that someone has the right to use their firearm when someone else is running away from the police and has a gun and turns toward, it doesn't matter if he drops the gun, then you don't believe that police should ever have a firearm.

01:44:01.000 If you don't believe that you can use a compliance technique when someone has actively resisted arrest, is larger than you, has kicked a cop and refused to get in the car, then you don't believe that cops, you just think they should say, hey, you're under arrest.

01:44:13.000 And you say, no.

01:44:13.000 And they say, well, I apologize.

01:44:15.000 I've actually got some body cam footage.

01:44:17.000 Even Floyd's friends were like, hey, just sit down.

01:44:19.000 Yeah, just comply.

01:44:20.000 Alright, let's bring up that footage.

01:44:22.000 Okay, Steve Putter, let's see what my partner does. 0.98

01:44:24.000 Damn, he still won't get in the car. 0.99

01:44:29.000 Just sit down, dude! 0.99

01:44:31.000 They gotta push him in his car. 0.87

01:44:37.000 But they wouldn't want to use a compliance technique.

01:44:39.000 That's a couple resistances.

01:44:40.000 What is he doing?

01:44:41.000 He's resisting.

01:44:42.000 That's a born to do.

01:44:43.000 All he had to do was... 1.00

01:44:45.000 Now the nigga doing it. 1.00

01:44:47.000 And by the way, if it was dangerous walking while black, then those people would have been hurt. 0.99

01:44:52.000 You know what happened? 0.80

01:44:52.000 He said, get up against the wall. 0.80

01:44:53.000 The one lady didn't have ID. 1.00

01:44:54.000 The other guy right away gave him ID.

01:44:55.000 Because apparently black people do have ID. 1.00

01:44:58.000 Oh, that's right.

01:44:58.000 Gave it to him and he said, all right, just can you stand over there?

01:45:00.000 He said, yep. 0.99

01:45:01.000 And then she said, he's crazy. 0.99

01:45:02.000 Which by the way, some people are going, she told him he was crazy. 0.95

01:45:05.000 And I'm going, yeah, I'm a cop. 0.99

01:45:06.000 And she told me, he's crazy.

01:45:09.000 So now I'm more on guard!

01:45:10.000 Is that an excuse?

01:45:11.000 Does that make sense?

01:45:11.000 Can I not believe them?

01:45:12.000 Yo! 1.00

01:45:13.000 We said he was crazy! 0.52

01:45:14.000 Then I guess he's free to go!

01:45:18.000 Wow, that really does destroy the narrative of everybody was screaming that it was brutality, though.

01:45:23.000 Yeah.

01:45:23.000 It really does.

01:45:24.000 Well, that was at the start of it.

01:45:26.000 And then afterwards, when he was down on the ground, that's when people who weren't there for the lead-up start going, like, they didn't know.

01:45:31.000 Get off him! 1.00

01:45:32.000 Well, that's what it is up until that point with Chauvin.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying is it got unruly because then a crowd started surrounding it.

01:45:40.000 Oh, no, I get that.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:45:41.000 But early on, they were just like, ugh.

01:45:43.000 Like, they had been there before.

01:45:45.000 You could tell.

01:45:45.000 They were exasperated.

01:45:46.000 They were exhausted.

01:45:47.000 I think they are, yes.

01:45:49.000 And rightfully so.

01:45:50.000 And this is during a lot of other shootings that happened and riots happening.

01:45:54.000 So the police are aware.

01:45:56.000 The crowd is aware.

01:45:57.000 They're getting more aggressive.

01:45:59.000 So you don't know what's going on.

01:46:00.000 Let's see what they're saying now, because now this is when the crowd starts to form.

01:46:05.000 Yeah.

01:46:05.000 The defendant doesn't appear too concerned.

01:46:10.000 It wasn't the... Did they just show a still?

01:46:13.000 I don't want to interrupt, but is that the little girl who's supposed to not be shown in everything?

01:46:19.000 Well, they've already shown her like 15 times.

01:46:21.000 Right, but... Okay, I'm done.

01:46:24.000 Comments of a 17-year-old are being filmed by some civilians.

01:46:28.000 There's a policy about filming.

01:46:31.000 They understand that civilians can film them.

01:46:35.000 They know that.

01:46:36.000 It's right there.

01:46:37.000 This isn't something new or earth-shattering or even particularly noteworthy.

01:46:45.000 Sergeant Steiger, you recall him from LAPD?

01:46:49.000 He used to patrol on Skid Row.

01:46:51.000 He talked about people throwing rocks and bottles.

01:46:55.000 They have a phone.

01:46:57.000 Phones.

01:46:58.000 They're expressing concern.

01:47:00.000 They're not doing anything.

01:47:01.000 They were yelling that they were going to F him up.

01:47:03.000 And this is an incredibly high crime area, and the cops knew that going into it.

01:47:07.000 Come on.

01:47:08.000 Don't act like these are just bystanders going, oh, well, that looks terrible.

01:47:11.000 I can't believe that the police would do something like that.

01:47:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:13.000 It's high crime.

01:47:13.000 Have you seen the prices at Cup Foods?

01:47:17.000 Highway robbery.

01:47:19.000 Nary a USDA organic label to be found.

01:47:22.000 No.

01:47:23.000 Shameful.

01:47:23.000 A dollar for a banana?

01:47:26.000 No.

01:47:27.000 Two for a dollar.

01:47:28.000 Why's it gotta be a banana?

01:47:30.000 Well, that's what they have.

01:47:31.000 Oh, I, uh oh.

01:47:33.000 Did I do it again?

01:47:33.000 No, he did it.

01:47:34.000 Did I make a racist?

01:47:36.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:47:37.000 I told you, the chief of police, that this conduct, the 929, violates the use of force policy.

01:47:47.000 Violates the department's core values.

01:47:51.000 He violated his duty of care.

01:47:55.000 He failed to render aid Remember Commander, now Inspector, Katie Blackwell, who was in charge of all training, looked at this and said, I don't even know what this is.

01:48:08.000 I don't know what this modification is.

01:48:10.000 This isn't how they train.

01:48:13.000 These aren't the rules.

01:48:15.000 Well, the book disagrees with you.

01:48:17.000 Yes.

01:48:18.000 In writing.

01:48:19.000 In writing.

01:48:19.000 And pictures.

01:48:20.000 It was a pop-up.

01:48:21.000 Just in case.

01:48:21.000 Yeah, you remember the section.

01:48:24.000 It's a whole section of one book.

01:48:29.000 I hate court so much.

01:48:33.000 I'm sorry.

01:48:33.000 It's just so, he's so boring.

01:48:35.000 How about the chase you cut to it?

01:48:43.000 So long at that time.

01:48:45.000 Dave is taking personal offense to this guy.

01:48:50.000 It's just so boring.

01:48:52.000 Edit!

01:48:54.000 If I'm a juror, I'm like, I'm going to find him not guilty just so he can leave.

01:48:57.000 He's the litigator.

01:48:59.000 Can we vote now?

01:49:00.000 I'm ready to vote, your honor.

01:49:02.000 He's the litigation equivalent of Peter Jackson.

01:49:04.000 Yes, yes, yeah.

01:49:06.000 It's like, I don't know how long you think it's going to take to, how do you think this shot's going to go?

01:49:10.000 About four seconds?

01:49:11.000 I'm thinking 40 seconds.

01:49:13.000 Yeah, why not?

01:49:14.000 He's making a big deal of 929, but remember originally it was reported 846.

01:49:18.000 Yeah, right.

01:49:22.000 Not reasonable.

01:49:24.000 Only reasonable force is authorized.

01:49:26.000 So a knee is classified as deadly force?

01:49:31.000 Also, not to mention the pain compliance move of slightly twisting his wrist.

01:49:37.000 You talked about the movie Philadelphia.

01:49:39.000 Just think of Denzel Washington's wrapping up arguments.

01:49:43.000 Like a minute, people are clapping.

01:49:47.000 They're happy to go home and not guilty.

01:49:50.000 In that case, guilty.

01:49:50.000 And he's got his hearts in it.

01:49:52.000 That's never how it goes.

01:49:53.000 In real life, you know, you'd be a few minutes like, YOU WANT ME OUT!

01:49:56.000 YOU WANT ME ON THAT WALL! 0.63

01:49:58.000 And I'm like, alright, okay, well thanks for the outburst.

01:50:00.000 Follow-up, what were you doing at 9.42am?

01:50:05.000 I was eating cereal.

01:50:06.000 Okay, and then at 9.56 and that's about it.

01:50:09.000 Yeah.

01:50:11.000 Well, I had finished my cereal.

01:50:13.000 You can't handle the truth.

01:50:16.000 But I do have another hour 42 minutes.

01:50:18.000 So I apologize.

01:50:20.000 The crescendo was ill-timed.

01:50:22.000 Do you guys believe in ghosts?

01:50:27.000 It might inherit your body that were once aliens. 0.58

01:50:30.000 I do.

01:50:30.000 I'm Tom Cruise and I'm in the closet.

01:50:33.000 Was defendant kneeling on Mr. Floyd's neck and back.

01:50:36.000 22 24 my stomach hurts my neck hurts anything everything hurts 1.00

01:50:40.000 Defendant heard that he heard those words my back my pussy and my crack 1.00

01:50:45.000 Sorry trying to breathe sorry that seriously just fell out of my mouth 1.00

01:50:50.000 Stevens gonna like Like his bag of speedballs.

01:50:59.000 Oh no!

01:50:59.000 Now, finish your speedballs, or you don't get your heroin.

01:51:04.000 No!

01:51:04.000 You can't!

01:51:05.000 Come on, finish your speedballs! 1.00

01:51:11.000 How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your speedboats?

01:51:15.000 You can't have your pudding!

01:51:22.000 Look, it's just we live in different worlds.

01:51:25.000 They're also trying to speak to jurors and to people in America who think we- it's like you don't live in a world where you've actively armed- strong-armed and violently robbed a woman with her kid in the house.

01:51:36.000 And then lived on drugs your whole life, committed felonies, selling counterfeit bills, then try to hide a speedball in your mouth.

01:51:44.000 These are the kinds of people that police officers encounter on a daily basis.

01:51:48.000 And the problem now is we're making it seem like police officers, this prosecution, Maxine Waters, that they're going to approach Everyone, the way that they approached George Floyd, by the way, rightfully so, certainly in their approach.

01:52:01.000 We can argue the last minute and a half, but certainly in their approach with someone who was violent if they want to go home to their families.

01:52:07.000 And so now you have kids out there thinking, oh, I just get pulled over for a speeding ticket and I'm going to get shot, lit up.

01:52:13.000 Statistics don't show that to be true. 0.94

01:52:14.000 They actually show it to be more true if you're white than black with police officers, by the way. 0.77

01:52:18.000 Statistics show that police officers are anywhere from 16 to 18 times more likely to be shot by a criminal like George Floyd than them to actually kill said criminal.

01:52:27.000 This is reality.

01:52:28.000 And so people now are copy-pasting, well, I wouldn't want that to happen to me.

01:52:32.000 Did you slip counterfeit bills?

01:52:36.000 Did you rob a woman at gunpoint in front of her kid? 0.98

01:52:39.000 Were you developing a crazy high tolerance with your crack-fiend girlfriend? 0.93

01:52:43.000 Did you lie to the cops? 0.89

01:52:45.000 Did you try and swallow a speedball and then spit it out?

01:52:48.000 If not, that's probably not going to happen to you.

01:52:50.000 What's more likely is The two other passengers who were in the car who were up against the wall.

01:52:54.000 And he said, can I have some idea?

01:52:55.000 All right, just stay back.

01:52:56.000 And they said, okay, quit resisting, man.

01:52:58.000 That's how most interactions go.

01:53:01.000 But if you now tell young black men that they're all going to get the George Floyd treatment without giving them context, regardless of whether mistakes were made, you are going to create, well, you already have a powder keg.

01:53:12.000 We're going to riot no matter what.

01:53:13.000 Yeah.

01:53:14.000 Well, and you've also created a scenario where you, you're almost guaranteed not to have a fair trial, because if you're a juror right now, can you imagine This jury comes back.

01:53:22.000 Let's assume they come back not guilty.

01:53:24.000 Can you imagine the outcry?

01:53:25.000 People will find out who these jurors were and their lives would be over.

01:53:29.000 Ryan Stelter will beat them with his purse.

01:53:31.000 His European man bag.

01:53:31.000 That's true.

01:53:34.000 It's a murse.

01:53:35.000 Murse! 0.62

01:53:36.000 You are right, though.

01:53:37.000 I mean, every one of them now has to worry about being doxxed, their families being hurt.

01:53:41.000 I mean, it's really... Well, the one expert witness, what is it?

01:53:44.000 They just painted his house in pig's blood?

01:53:46.000 They left a pig's head. 0.95

01:53:47.000 They left a pig's head on his front porch. 0.75

01:53:49.000 Oh, is this the Kroll guy?

01:53:50.000 I can't remember his family name.

01:53:51.000 It was Kroll.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:52.000 Colonel Sanders.

01:53:53.000 They left Kathy Bates' head on his front porch?

01:53:55.000 Yeah.

01:53:56.000 That's not nice.

01:53:57.000 Nobody deserves Kathy Bates' head. 1.00

01:53:59.000 Very broad.

01:54:00.000 Actually, they were doing him a favor because the firstborns in the rest of the block died.

01:54:03.000 Wow.

01:54:03.000 Ah!

01:54:07.000 They left a pig's head? 0.97

01:54:09.000 Yeah, pig's head. 0.97

01:54:10.000 They left a pig's head, yeah. 0.99

01:54:12.000 We're right back to John Lennon and the piggies and Helter Skelter and Charles Manson. 0.98

01:54:18.000 Have you seen the little piggies playing in the dirt?

01:54:21.000 It's like, well, I wasn't singing about cops.

01:54:24.000 What about this?

01:54:25.000 Always in starched shirts. 0.85

01:54:27.000 That doesn't sound like piggies. 0.86

01:54:28.000 It's the alternate ending to Babe Pig in the City, where they decapitate him. 0.90

01:54:34.000 They keep showing this girl!

01:54:36.000 This underage girl, they're not supposed to show her! 1.00

01:54:38.000 I know, they're not supposed to show her. 0.99

01:54:39.000 They're probably like, ah, crap, we screwed up earlier. 0.88

01:54:41.000 Here she is. 0.99

01:54:42.000 There you go.

01:54:43.000 Just let it fly.

01:54:44.000 Alright, let me go back and listen to them.

01:54:46.000 Sorry, we gotta hear what's going on.

01:54:47.000 ...by fate.

01:54:48.000 At one single moment in time, to witness something.

01:54:54.000 To witness nine minutes and twenty-nine seconds.

01:54:58.000 That girl ripped those pants from Grimace. 1.00

01:55:00.000 A shocking abuse of authority.

01:55:03.000 McDonald's character.

01:55:04.000 To watch a man die.

01:55:07.000 And there was nothing they could do about it.

01:55:10.000 Because they were powerless.

01:55:12.000 They were utterly powerless.

01:55:13.000 Because even they respected the badge.

01:55:15.000 Even seeing this happening, they tried.

01:55:18.000 They cried out at first.

01:55:20.000 Pointed out, hey, you can get up off him.

01:55:22.000 Became more and more desperate as they watched this go on and on and on.

01:55:27.000 And there was nothing.

01:55:28.000 There was nothing they could do.

01:55:30.000 All they could do... Much like this.

01:55:33.000 ...was watch and gather what they could.

01:55:38.000 Which were wrong, proven in court.

01:55:40.000 And when they were questioned, it often didn't hold up.

01:55:41.000 court.

01:55:42.000 ... gather those precious recordings.

01:55:45.000 And they gathered those up and they brought them here.

01:55:49.000 And they brought them here and they got up on the stand and they testified...

01:55:53.000 And when they were questioned it often didn't hold up.

01:55:55.000 They were wrong.

01:55:56.000 Yeah.

01:55:57.000 Facts matter!

01:55:59.000 They became a part of the scene.

01:56:03.000 Did you guys notice last night how white the Country Music Awards were?

01:56:07.000 I didn't watch them.

01:56:07.000 Well, good.

01:56:11.000 There was no appearance from Hootie?

01:56:12.000 Uh, Darius Rucker?

01:56:15.000 Right.

01:56:16.000 He'll always be Hootie to me.

01:56:17.000 I don't know, I never watch that stuff.

01:56:20.000 He will always be Hootie to me.

01:56:21.000 No.

01:56:22.000 I once met a blowfish.

01:56:23.000 Well, he said he was.

01:56:25.000 Randomly selected people.

01:56:27.000 That's my favorite Jerry Maguire line.

01:56:28.000 When Rod Tidwell, his kid, goes up for an autograph, he's like, yeah man, he goes, you Hootie?

01:56:34.000 No, I'm not Hootie.

01:56:39.000 I was back before you couldn't put that in the script because it would be accused of being racist.

01:56:45.000 Well, if any black guy puts on a cowboy hat, you know what might be said to you during the day.

01:56:51.000 Let's be honest. 0.50

01:56:54.000 I only want to be with you.

01:56:57.000 But sometimes, we take it back.

01:57:00.000 Sometimes, when something is really important, we reserve those decisions for ourselves.

01:57:04.000 The state?

01:57:06.000 We have power.

01:57:08.000 Too much power.

01:57:08.000 Way, way, way too much power.

01:57:15.000 The judge just has his turtle mask over his eyes.

01:57:17.000 He's blushing through the mask.

01:57:19.000 I do have power.

01:57:19.000 He's blushing through the mask. I do have power.

01:57:23.000 I am powerful, I am wonderful. People like me.

01:57:28.000 I have the power! 1.00

01:57:30.000 He's kissing the judge's ass. 1.00

01:57:32.000 He has powerful legs. 1.00

01:57:36.000 Powerful legs and a great head of hair.

01:57:38.000 Yeah, look at him.

01:57:43.000 Judge, did you work out? 0.99

01:57:45.000 Because you could pass for gay. 0.99

01:57:46.000 And I don't mean in a sexual way, just, you know, you got that cut look.

01:57:50.000 Not like the 90s where they were kind of puffy, you know, like 98 degrees and Backstreet Boys was like 90s fit. 0.96

01:57:55.000 You look like gay fit. 1.00

01:57:58.000 You know, like the nice, uh, where it comes to a nice point here. 0.99

01:58:02.000 Yeah, the nice, uh, the cum gutters. 1.00

01:58:04.000 Come on! 0.99

01:58:07.000 There it is.

01:58:08.000 Come on, that made everyone laugh.

01:58:08.000 None of that.

01:58:10.000 It wasn't even a bodily fluid.

01:58:10.000 Doesn't matter.

01:58:12.000 Sexual fluids.

01:58:13.000 It was one word!

01:58:14.000 That's a good thing!

01:58:17.000 PG-13.

01:58:18.000 That's so PG-13!

01:58:19.000 I was objecting to gutters.

01:58:24.000 I guess at this point, when kids are watching WAP and the Triller Fight Club... There is nothing I've done that is as bad as what you showed me today.

01:58:33.000 Well, I have danced like that once or twice.

01:58:36.000 For money.

01:58:37.000 Thank you.

01:58:37.000 Very little money.

01:58:38.000 Alright, so he just wrapped up.

01:58:40.000 Just wrapped up!

01:58:41.000 So, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

01:58:41.000 Thank God!

01:58:45.000 That's about all we've got.

01:58:46.000 Ugh, sit down.

01:58:47.000 Was that the boxer?

01:58:49.000 Yeah.

01:58:49.000 La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

01:58:56.000 more was that the boxer is that the yeah good call paul simon my friend it was simon and garfunkel

01:59:04.000 Yeah.

01:59:04.000 Before they split up.

01:59:05.000 He had Garfunkel in when I did Arthur.

01:59:07.000 Did you really?

01:59:08.000 It was during the phase where everyone was specifically instructed to not even utter the name Paul Simon.

01:59:14.000 How was he?

01:59:15.000 I actually wasn't there the day he was recording.

01:59:17.000 You're like, I don't even need to meet that.

01:59:20.000 I don't need the lesser of Simon and Garfunkel.

01:59:24.000 There are only two.

01:59:25.000 How'd those solo careers go?

01:59:26.000 Yeah, tell Oates that I'll be there later.

01:59:33.000 Can we hear what they have to say about this?

01:59:35.000 Yeah, let's hear what they have to say.

01:59:36.000 Really fast, we got this from a Washington Post article that just came out.

01:59:39.000 What's going to happen now is a 20 minute break, then the defense will go, another 20 minute break, a rebuttal, another 20 minute break, and instructions to the jury.

01:59:48.000 When's the puppy bowl?

01:59:50.000 When's the puppy bowl?

01:59:52.000 I said when's the puppy bowl?

01:59:54.000 Here, look, here's what we'll do.

01:59:56.000 I'm going to wrap up a couple of things here that I wanted to go to earlier in the show map, and then we will go to Mug Club only and cover some of the defense.

02:00:03.000 So let me go back to this.

02:00:05.000 We showed you early on And I think this matters regardless of what CNN is talking

02:00:09.000 about.

02:00:09.000 Look, what's real, what should concern everybody here, because you could also be someone sitting

02:00:14.000 in that hot seat at some point.

02:00:17.000 Not only could you be someone, of course, people always say put yourself in George Floyd's

02:00:20.000 shoes.

02:00:21.000 Sure.

02:00:22.000 However, you also have to put yourself in the decision making process of George Floyd

02:00:25.000 that led up to that.

02:00:26.000 And then in this case, this is something that sort of fell on Derek Chauvin's doorstep,

02:00:30.000 You have to put yourself in those shoes and understand that at some point, particularly now, or not only if you're a cop, a business owner, if you're a man who can't get through to your home because of rioters and protesters, you may be on trial for simply hitting the gas pedal on your car.

02:00:47.000 So let me go back to this.

02:00:48.000 Earlier today, I'm trying to see, we had Brian Stelter, Purse, Okay, so let me show you this.

02:00:56.000 This is like I was talking about with the cops who aren't necessarily always our friends.

02:01:00.000 This could be you.

02:01:01.000 Here's an example of a man who is trying to get to his house right now.

02:01:04.000 And this is the powder keg that's been lit, right?

02:01:06.000 You just saw Maxine Waters.

02:01:07.000 We showed you before the show where she was saying they need to be more confrontational.

02:01:10.000 They need to be in the streets.

02:01:11.000 Harass them, she said, right?

02:01:13.000 Don't let them go.

02:01:15.000 Make sure you get a mob.

02:01:16.000 Tell them they're not welcome.

02:01:18.000 And so now you have people with an excuse to commit wanton acts of violence without any repercussions.

02:01:23.000 Now what happens if this comes to your neighborhood?

02:01:26.000 What do you do?

02:01:27.000 You could be well within your rights to simply drive home, but if you exercise your constitutional rights, you end up being the one arrested.

02:01:36.000 Here's an example of Stillwater, Minnesota.

02:01:38.000 There was a guy who was trying to get home because protesters blocked a cul-de-sac.

02:01:42.000 It doesn't even look like an ur... I don't even know how this is a protest.

02:01:47.000 clip f the guy gets arrested. He's just trying to get home.

02:01:55.000 As an angry motorist who refused to move his car, the police were on the scene and lo and behold,

02:02:05.000 a miracle of God, they took him away, put him in the back of the squad car,

02:02:09.000 they moved his vehicle out of the street so we can peacefully continue our march.

02:02:15.000 I Aren't you supposed to be marching when you march?

02:02:18.000 Like, if you were marching, it wouldn't be that big a deal.

02:02:19.000 It's just like a duck crossing.

02:02:21.000 And you're like, okay.

02:02:22.000 They go past, and then you get—no!

02:02:24.000 You were blocking the road, and the guy ended up selling them—you know, they got into a scuffle.

02:02:28.000 No one was punched.

02:02:29.000 And the cop still came in the back of the paddy wagon.

02:02:31.000 She doesn't look like marching is one of her hobbies.

02:02:33.000 No, not exactly.

02:02:35.000 Not used to it.

02:02:36.000 I'm new at this, guys!

02:02:36.000 She might put it on the dating app, and you go, really?

02:02:40.000 Swipe. 0.99

02:02:41.000 Long marches on the beach.

02:02:44.000 Free Nikes.

02:02:45.000 Long marches.

02:02:46.000 And by that I mean sitting on the sidewalk or in the middle of the road in your cul-de-sac.

02:02:51.000 I can block traffic.

02:02:52.000 I can block traffic.

02:02:53.000 That looks like she'd be very effective. 1.00

02:02:54.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:54.000 If it was the marching team, she'd be picked last.

02:02:58.000 If it was the blocking traffic, blocking as much of the lane with the least amount of people possible, She'd be number one pick.

02:03:04.000 Yeah, she could be a professional soccer goalie without even playing, ever. 0.96

02:03:09.000 Just whip her hair. 1.00

02:03:10.000 Just go stand there.

02:03:11.000 Let me show this again.

02:03:12.000 We showed this early on, but I want to show Clipsey of Maxine Waters, because again, this is what she's saying right now.

02:03:18.000 She is directly trying to affect the outcome of the jury, and then I'm going to compare it with the repercussions we've seen with Donald Trump.

02:03:25.000 So Clipsey, Maxine Waters had this to say in Minnesota, this weekend should be federally charged, impeached, and should be put in prison. 0.97

02:03:31.000 Fight for justice.

02:03:33.000 But I am very hopeful and I hope that we're going to get a verdict that will say guilty, guilty, guilty.

02:03:42.000 And if we don't, we cannot go away.

02:03:45.000 And not just manslaughter, right?

02:03:46.000 Oh no, not manslaughter.

02:03:48.000 No, no, no.

02:03:49.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:03:50.000 It couldn't be reasonable.

02:03:51.000 I don't know whether it's in the first degree, but as far as I'm concerned, it's first degree murder.

02:03:55.000 Mr. Congresswoman, what happens if we do not get what you just told?

02:03:58.000 What should the people do?

02:03:59.000 What should protesters on the street do?

02:04:01.000 I didn't hear you.

02:04:02.000 What should protesters do?

02:04:05.000 Well, we gotta stay on the street.

02:04:07.000 And we've got to get more active.

02:04:09.000 We've got to get more confrontational.

02:04:12.000 We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

02:04:16.000 Yeah, stay on the street.

02:04:17.000 That's wonderful advice for kids coming from a lady who got her mask trimmed off the left side of Two-Face's suit. 0.94

02:04:24.000 The lesser of the sight.

02:04:26.000 It is amazing that she's wearing that much stuff on her face to protect herself from a germ, but she has no problem telling other people to go out and hurt others.

02:04:34.000 Right, exactly.

02:04:35.000 What does it mean to get more attention?

02:04:36.000 That's because her movie is like the sixth sense, where she finds out at the end, she's like, That was the term.

02:04:41.000 All along.

02:04:43.000 And then there was a shooting right against police, a drive-by shooting right after that.

02:04:47.000 We don't need to show that clip.

02:04:48.000 But then again, I just want to reiterate this because this is a long-standing history of Maxine Waters.

02:04:53.000 And you see similar things from AOC.

02:04:55.000 Just Maxine Waters is around the bend enough that she doesn't even know that she's supposed to veil it. 0.99

02:04:59.000 She just says, ah, blow shit up! 0.99

02:05:02.000 So here's Maxine Waters, just a quick montage of her calling for violence. 1.00

02:05:07.000 The people are going to turn on them.

02:05:09.000 They're going to protest.

02:05:10.000 They're going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they're going to tell the president, no, I can't hang with you.

02:05:19.000 I will go and take Trump out tonight.

02:05:21.000 The Cheesecake Factory.

02:05:24.000 They have protesters making up at their house.

02:05:27.000 He's saying no peace, no sleep.

02:05:32.000 You see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station.

02:05:40.000 You get out and you create a crowd.

02:05:44.000 And you push back on them.

02:05:46.000 And you tell them they're not welcome.

02:05:48.000 And just to be clear, lest I be removed from YouTube here, I don't want, I'm not calling anyone to violence, I don't want anyone to hurt her, but could you just take off her weave and throw it into oncoming traffic?

02:05:59.000 Just the weave.

02:06:00.000 Just the embarrassment.

02:06:01.000 Just a little bit of embarrassment.

02:06:04.000 Look out guys, it's a tumbleweave.

02:06:07.000 Eight car pileup.

02:06:11.000 They're avoiding it because they think it's tire rubber.

02:06:15.000 Now, so that was pretty clear, right?

02:06:15.000 It's alive!

02:06:17.000 Form a mob.

02:06:18.000 I mean, would we all agree that we're not playing gotcha?

02:06:21.000 No.

02:06:21.000 Yeah, that's pretty clear.

02:06:22.000 That's pretty active.

02:06:24.000 Especially after what happened with the Trump thing and the insurrection.

02:06:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:06:28.000 And I want to show that clip for contrast.

02:06:30.000 At no point did she even specify peacefully, by the way.

02:06:33.000 She went out of her way to be more confrontational.

02:06:35.000 Stay in the streets.

02:06:36.000 Harassment.

02:06:36.000 So she's not even talking about a permit.

02:06:38.000 Right?

02:06:38.000 Or in an area where you have the right to be.

02:06:40.000 Let's compare Maxine Waters with the kind of rhetoric, and by the way, you can buy your Fight Like Hell shirt at CrowderShop.com.

02:06:47.000 That's why we're selling it, because every member of Congress, the Senate, has used that at some point.

02:06:51.000 I don't know if you know.

02:06:52.000 Mr. Monta, we could just run for two hours, because people say, Not like hell all the time.

02:06:56.000 But apparently Maxine Waters gets a pass. 1.00

02:06:58.000 Let's compare it with people who had the right to be there.

02:07:01.000 This was planned.

02:07:02.000 A permit.

02:07:03.000 And Donald Trump addressing them.

02:07:05.000 And keep in mind, too, when Donald Trump addressed them, there had never been any kind of violent action on behalf of right-wingers.

02:07:10.000 You can think of the Tea Partiers. 0.63

02:07:11.000 You can think of the people who went out there to protest lockdowns.

02:07:15.000 Even the state capitol.

02:07:16.000 They had big, scary rifles in Michigan.

02:07:18.000 They weren't shooting anybody.

02:07:20.000 You may not like it.

02:07:21.000 But very, very different from the kinds of riots that we've seen.

02:07:24.000 So let's compare Maxine Waters to what got Donald Trump tried and removed from all of the digital town square.

02:07:33.000 And we fight.

02:07:34.000 We fight like hell.

02:07:36.000 And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

02:07:39.000 We will never give up.

02:07:41.000 We will never concede.

02:07:42.000 It doesn't happen.

02:07:43.000 You don't concede when there's death involved.

02:07:47.000 I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

02:07:57.000 So again, let's keep this in context.

02:07:59.000 And by the way, you could show those clips out of context and it's enough.

02:08:03.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.000 But I don't want to do what the prosecuting attorney is doing.

02:08:05.000 I want to actually give you the full story and provide some context.

02:08:08.000 In context, at that point, there were a lot of people upset about the way that the election went.

02:08:13.000 And I'm not even talking about massive voter fraud.

02:08:15.000 We're not even talking about that.

02:08:16.000 We're talking about changes to the rules.

02:08:19.000 We're talking about anomalies.

02:08:20.000 We're talking about mail-in voting and people believing that there should be ID laws.

02:08:23.000 People who were upset.

02:08:25.000 And Donald Trump was speaking to a crowd where there was no plan for violence that we knew of.

02:08:30.000 And there had been no violent acts before that.

02:08:32.000 You're talking about a crowd of several hundred thousand people and you're talking about maybe 20 who ended up committing an act of violence.

02:08:38.000 Compared with Maxine Waters, who after there have already been dozens of deaths. 0.83

02:08:45.000 After there have already been hundreds of officer casualties, after cities have been burning non-stop, and they would have the opportunity, people like Maxine Waters, people like Kamala Harris would have the chance to come out and say, you know what, hey, there's a right way to do this peacefully.

02:09:01.000 Not only that, not only did she encourage it all along the way, she showed up in Minnesota to say that unless there is a guilty verdict, no no no, not manslaughter, We need to be in the streets.

02:09:13.000 You need to stay in the streets and be more confrontational.

02:09:15.000 Not only is that, in my opinion, illegal and an active call to violence, but oh my God, could you give any worse advice for children?

02:09:24.000 Could you give any worse advice for teenagers, for young adults who don't want to be caught in crossfire for crying out loud?

02:09:30.000 And let's just also keep this in context.

02:09:32.000 2021, 110 White people have been killed by police officers.

02:09:36.000 53 black people.

02:09:37.000 I don't know what you're going to say, but they make up 12% of the population. 0.98

02:09:40.000 But they make up the significant majority of violent crimes in this country.

02:09:44.000 Well, and police interactions is the baseline there.

02:09:46.000 You're not looking at the population.

02:09:47.000 The population doesn't have any usable information at all.

02:09:50.000 But none of it matters if you started off with racism. 0.98

02:09:52.000 Well, there are more police interactions with black people because all cops are racist. 0.99

02:09:55.000 What about the black cops? 0.99

02:09:56.000 Well, there are Uncle Toms. 0.99

02:09:57.000 What about the fact that there are more violent crimes being committed? 0.98

02:09:59.000 What about the fact that black Americans speed more? 0.97

02:10:01.000 These are statistical realities and so there are going to be more interactions and still significantly less shot by

02:10:06.000 police officers.

02:10:07.000 What's really pissed me off, I think that WAPO article actually made the point.

02:10:11.000 You can actually go down there and search by year, by race, by gender.

02:10:14.000 There's all these different things and it'll show you how many people there were.

02:10:17.000 Last year, two or three hundred more white people shot by police. 0.93

02:10:22.000 But then in that same article, they said that you're much more likely to be shot by the police if you're black.

02:10:28.000 And that's the narrative that's going around, that Maxine Waters and everybody is trumpeting.

02:10:31.000 And that's just not true.

02:10:33.000 If you interact with the police, the most likely thing that's going to happen is going to be determined on your behavior, not based on your skin color, not based on anything other than how you act.

02:10:42.000 And nobody's saying this.

02:10:44.000 In every one of these cases that we've seen in the media recently, if you don't attack the police, if you don't violently resist arrest, you will 99.9999 times go to jail alive.

02:10:56.000 By the way, people don't understand this, you don't have the right to resist arrest.

02:11:01.000 You have the right to...

02:11:01.000 No!

02:11:03.000 Deny search?

02:11:05.000 Well, no, you can't search my car.

02:11:06.000 You should know your rights.

02:11:07.000 You have the right to deny entry if someone wants to come into your house without a warrant.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, they can get a warrant, but you have the right to deny it.

02:11:10.000 They can get a warrant, though.

02:11:13.000 You have the right to an attorney.

02:11:14.000 You have the right to not speak with them at all if they take you in for interrogation.

02:11:17.000 You do not have the right, if a police officer at that point, you're under suspicion, is arresting you, you don't have the right to resist arrest.

02:11:23.000 Your rights exist before that, and then your rights exist after that, within the process.

02:11:27.000 Let's just be really clear about that.

02:11:29.000 Some people say, well, you know, it's my rights.

02:11:31.000 Your right is not to resist arrest.

02:11:33.000 At that point, if there's reasonable suspicion, they have the right to take you to, uh, to, uh, what was I going to say?

02:11:40.000 Downtown.

02:11:41.000 Jail.

02:11:41.000 Yeah, not jail, but they have the right to take you to the police office, police headquarters, police station.

02:11:46.000 Thanks.

02:11:47.000 I've never used a term like downtown.

02:11:49.000 Put a clink.

02:11:50.000 See?

02:11:50.000 Paddywagon.

02:11:51.000 I gotcha.

02:11:52.000 I kind of like the downtown.

02:11:53.000 My James Cagney police terminology, it's turning into body wash up there.

02:11:59.000 It would be the most useful piece of advice that you can give to kids right now.

02:12:02.000 When you interact with a police officer, just understand their life is on the line every single time.

02:12:06.000 And if they are violating your rights, the time to fight that, unless you think they're killing you right then, right?

02:12:12.000 And then you obviously have to do something.

02:12:14.000 But if they're violating your rights, sue them!

02:12:16.000 If they're doing something and being disrespectful and illegally searching your car, even after you told them, you're not supposed to then try to push them out of your car, sue them later.

02:12:24.000 You'll win.

02:12:25.000 Yeah.

02:12:26.000 Well, this is also, and by the way, comment, you guys watching, if you're watching right now live, you know what?

02:12:29.000 If you could just hit that like button, because that also helps too.

02:12:31.000 Just right now, everybody.

02:12:33.000 Hit like! 0.95

02:12:34.000 Right now, do it! 0.83

02:12:35.000 You can do it live!

02:12:35.000 And then you comment to me, let me know, we're going to take your chat here at Mug Club, but let me know what lesson you've taken from this.

02:12:42.000 What advice would you give to someone based on not just this trial, but right now the environment in our country, the Black Lives Matter riots, the protests, the counter protests.

02:12:52.000 Look, right now the advice being given to kids, okay, and you saw it, it was being black in America was trending yesterday, it's driving while black. 0.99

02:12:59.000 So the lesson from Maxine Waters is we have got to, we have got to teach our cops to stop being racist. So look, that takes

02:13:06.000 it out of your hands right now. I know that we have a lot of black viewers, particularly young

02:13:10.000 black viewers, who are watching. And right now you go, what do I do? I can't fight this. I can't fight 0.97

02:13:14.000 it. It's a racist system. Now there's nothing you can do. But the advice is don't be black in 0.93

02:13:18.000 America. You know what? I would say this, we'll leave on this. I would say that looking at this trial 0.98

02:13:24.000 gives us a lot that we can take.

02:13:26.000 There's a lot that you can use to deliver advice to kids, whether you're white or black.

02:13:30.000 And I would say this, no one's saying this, but if I were Maxine Waters, if I were Joe Biden, if I were Kamala Harris, I'm me!

02:13:36.000 So I would say, okay, look.

02:13:38.000 If you have a drug problem, get help, okay?

02:13:41.000 First off, if you have it, those resources are available.

02:13:42.000 If you have a drug problem, get help.

02:13:44.000 Before that, let's avoid doing drugs, particularly hard drugs, okay?

02:13:47.000 Let's try and avoid that.

02:13:48.000 Surround yourself with people who aren't doing hard drugs.

02:13:51.000 So kids out there, that's very important, the power of association.

02:13:54.000 You see it with mama, which is who we thought was his mother, but his girlfriend.

02:13:57.000 This is not someone who's going to pull him out of doing drugs.

02:13:59.000 This is someone who encouraged him to live that life, likely caused him to relapse.

02:14:03.000 Okay, so kids, these are things that you can do with your life, right?

02:14:08.000 Stay in school, sure.

02:14:10.000 Things that are out of your control.

02:14:11.000 Ideally, you have a strong relationship with your parents.

02:14:13.000 Stay in school, but let's not do drugs.

02:14:15.000 Let's avoid gangs.

02:14:16.000 Let's avoid committing even petty.

02:14:19.000 Petty crimes because they lead to more serious crimes.

02:14:22.000 Now, if you find yourself in a situation... Let's also, let's not, let's not abuse fellow members of your community by screwing them out of their hard-earned dollar in giving out counterfeit bills.

02:14:31.000 Okay?

02:14:32.000 Let's, when a cop pulls you over and says, see your hands?

02:14:35.000 Look, it's good for you to comply and show your hands.

02:14:37.000 Let's just go with blanket rules, like the rules that my dad taught me.

02:14:41.000 Hands at 10 and 2, roll down the window and let the...

02:14:44.000 Hello, officer.

02:14:45.000 If you have a concealed carry permit, hand it to them when they request your license along with your proper identification.

02:14:51.000 If the police officer asks you to get out of the car, get out of the car.

02:14:55.000 If, at that point, you notice that you have drugs, don't try and swallow them.

02:15:00.000 Don't try and swallow them!

02:15:01.000 Also, don't lie to the cops and say that you haven't done anything wrong, that you haven't taken any drugs.

02:15:06.000 These are all steps that you can, if you want to avoid this situation, Then, don't actively resist arrest and refuse to be put in a cop car.

02:15:14.000 Because we see what happens in that scenario.

02:15:16.000 Also, don't kick cops!

02:15:20.000 If you avoid all of these things, you might be better off.

02:15:24.000 So again, the general, the general rules, the advice that we should be giving is white, black, doesn't matter. 0.98

02:15:28.000 It's not about driving while black.

02:15:30.000 Let's not drive while high.

02:15:32.000 Let's have better friends, better association.

02:15:34.000 Let's make sure that you have people around you in your life who help elevate you.

02:15:39.000 Let's not actively resist arrest and put police officers in scenarios where they have to fear for their lives.

02:15:44.000 Let's not lie to cops, try and hide drugs, and then actively, violently kick them.

02:15:50.000 And you know what?

02:15:50.000 You end up with scenarios like, hey, hey, that could have just been me.

02:15:55.000 No, you know what?

02:15:55.000 That couldn't have just as easily been you.

02:15:57.000 But you know who can be you?

02:16:00.000 Ben Carson?

02:16:02.000 Ben Carson could be... Condoleezza Rice?

02:16:05.000 These are people who came from really... Joe Frazier?

02:16:08.000 Muhammad Ali?

02:16:11.000 LeBron, take your pick.

02:16:12.000 There are lots of people who've been in similar scenarios, who have had choices to make, and instead, we are not giving this advice to anyone.

02:16:19.000 We're saying, it's being black in America. 0.86

02:16:22.000 That's not what it is, and that makes people feel powerless, and then they riot, because, well, there's nothing I can do. 0.92

02:16:29.000 The problem is being black in America. 1.00

02:16:31.000 Well, obviously, you didn't watch the tape, because the two people who were in the car, they were also black in America, and nothing ever happened. 0.94

02:16:36.000 They were entirely compliant.

02:16:38.000 The cops let them go on their merry way with their Lululemon handbag.

02:16:41.000 Or as Brian Stelter says, Ooh, I maybe want that.

02:16:43.000 Can I turn that into a purse? 0.98

02:16:45.000 All right.

02:16:45.000 We're going to go to Mug Club.

02:16:47.000 Continue watching this and we'll take your chat.

02:16:49.000 Thank you so much.

02:16:50.000 We have a change my mind tomorrow.

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