Louder with Crowder - April 24, 2024


MAKE UKRAINE GREAT AGAIN! Senate Passes Massive Bill With your Tax Dollars


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

184.47186

Word Count

11,963

Sentence Count

1,149

Misogynist Sentences

36

Hate Speech Sentences

72


Summary

This week, we talk about the Supreme Court hearing arguments on abortion care, Stormy Daniels, TikTok, and much, much more! Plus, we have a special guest, David Robinson, join us on the show to talk about TikTok.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 🎵 Music 🎵 Can you smell me now?
00:00:14.000 No.
00:00:16.000 Sorry, I had Mexican food for lunch.
00:00:18.000 Can you smell me now?
00:00:19.000 Not a thing.
00:00:19.000 No.
00:00:20.000 Can you smell this?
00:00:20.000 Dang.
00:00:22.000 No.
00:00:22.000 That's what I'm telling you.
00:00:23.000 I can't smell anything.
00:00:23.000 I'm all blocked up.
00:00:24.000 Here.
00:00:25.000 Come with me.
00:00:28.000 Can you smell me now?
00:00:31.000 No.
00:00:31.000 Still nothing.
00:00:33.000 Here.
00:00:33.000 Dang.
00:00:34.000 Try this.
00:00:36.000 All clear.
00:00:38.000 Can you smell me now?
00:00:44.000 Bye!
00:00:44.000 Bye!
00:00:46.000 Yes.
00:00:46.000 God!
00:00:48.000 Yes, why do you... Why do you smell like that?
00:00:51.000 Like what?
00:00:53.000 Just your body... It's trying to tell you something.
00:00:56.000 There's something... There's something wrong.
00:00:58.000 It's not like a natural smell.
00:01:00.000 It's not like a must.
00:01:01.000 It smells like... Like a medical... Like a waste bin.
00:01:04.000 Like something in you is dying.
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00:01:28.000 Wash your nose!
00:01:30.000 Do the strange animal, that's what I know. Do the strange animal, I come to follow.
00:01:57.000 Do the strange animal, I come to follow.
00:02:05.000 Mmm, glad to be with you.
00:02:10.000 Oh look, CNN is talking about Supreme Court hearing arguments on emergency abortion care.
00:02:17.000 So!
00:02:19.000 Tell us what you really think.
00:02:20.000 We're really excited.
00:02:21.000 We actually have a guest on the show, David Robinson, who is going to be releasing for the first time his exclusive report on TikTok, the interference, and just how bad it is, and the capabilities, for example, of the Communist Chinese government.
00:02:33.000 So this is the first time that anyone in the United States is going to be seeing this because of the vote that just passed regarding the TikTok bill.
00:02:40.000 Sorry, I mean bill that included 60 billion to Ukraine and tech TikTok on there.
00:02:46.000 We're talking about that.
00:02:47.000 We're talking about Donald Trump.
00:02:49.000 Hey, look, you can comment if you think he's right.
00:02:53.000 They're claiming he's in violation of the gag order, and right away he just went to attacking the judge, the former vice president, everything.
00:03:00.000 And I think it's actually a pretty smart approach.
00:03:02.000 Either you have to lay low and win in court, or if you think it's really an exercise in futility, then just make it.
00:03:09.000 Make it all white noise, where at a certain point people just get exhausted and go, we don't care, okay, Stormy Daniels is going to say some embarrassing stuff, Donald Trump's going to say some... Let's go back to what we used to care about with someone running for president, and we also have an eye on India, because the Indian Prime Minister has been roasting Islamists.
00:03:25.000 I don't know if you know what's going on there in India, but it's pretty funny!
00:03:29.000 It's pretty funny, and we're looking forward to that segment, because...
00:03:35.000 Run through.
00:03:35.000 There's a lot that you won't see.
00:03:37.000 That'll be in a Friday Scrapyard Show for Mug Club members.
00:03:41.000 And I love that it's the lead-in to our guest.
00:03:43.000 To our very revered guest is an Eye on India.
00:03:43.000 Yes.
00:03:46.000 So if at some point, and by at some point I mean during the Eye on India segment, you absolutely will see this.
00:03:50.000 Head on over to Rumble because, well, YouTube doesn't want any of this.
00:03:56.000 It's a live show.
00:03:57.000 Weekdays, 10 a.m.
00:03:57.000 Eastern.
00:03:58.000 You can always watch it even if we are not on YouTube.
00:04:00.000 Number two, Captain Morgan, how are you, sir?
00:04:02.000 I'm doing well.
00:04:03.000 How are you?
00:04:04.000 Fine.
00:04:04.000 Are you breathing better now?
00:04:05.000 I know.
00:04:06.000 I realize I don't breathe when I talk.
00:04:07.000 I had to remind you because a second ago you were talking and I'm like, you went, Like that?
00:04:11.000 I did that.
00:04:12.000 Yeah.
00:04:13.000 I learned how to take shallow breaths for a long time.
00:04:15.000 I also realized that I didn't put on any powder as well.
00:04:18.000 Oh, gross.
00:04:20.000 I don't think I look bad.
00:04:21.000 You guys tell me.
00:04:21.000 Oh, gross!
00:04:22.000 Do I look bad?
00:04:23.000 Don't tell me.
00:04:24.000 No, no, no.
00:04:25.000 Comment below.
00:04:26.000 Leave a comment.
00:04:27.000 Do you like Gerald just the way God made him?
00:04:29.000 Somebody give me a frying pan and some chicken.
00:04:31.000 Hey.
00:04:32.000 That oil.
00:04:33.000 Hey now.
00:04:34.000 Stop it.
00:04:35.000 When you hear him and you hear this song, you know him, you love him.
00:04:38.000 But you mostly thank him for his service.
00:04:41.000 You always thank him for his service.
00:04:42.000 You can watch his comedy special, American.
00:04:45.000 That's the title on Mug Club, the first comedy special there.
00:04:47.000 Mr. Firestein, how are you?
00:04:48.000 Good, yeah.
00:04:49.000 Please watch my special if you haven't.
00:04:51.000 Watching on Mug Club.
00:04:52.000 It is demonetized on YouTube already.
00:04:54.000 Really?
00:04:55.000 Wow.
00:04:56.000 Is it really?
00:04:56.000 Come on.
00:04:57.000 Yeah, it's already demonetized.
00:04:58.000 That's probably our fault.
00:04:59.000 I'm not sure if it's because I said the R word or if...
00:05:04.000 But you have the right to say the R word.
00:05:04.000 Or because of my friends.
00:05:06.000 I know.
00:05:07.000 I have the right to do a lot of things, and I believe in that.
00:05:09.000 You have the R pass.
00:05:10.000 That's a nice way of saying what Nick said.
00:05:10.000 R pass.
00:05:12.000 He's like, it's your fault!
00:05:13.000 You're radioactive!
00:05:15.000 I'm like, I'm not the reason you got kicked out of a bar.
00:05:19.000 Yeah.
00:05:21.000 Sorry about that.
00:05:21.000 But, you know, the good thing is people can still see it.
00:05:23.000 Things happen.
00:05:24.000 We made like 40 bucks.
00:05:26.000 So, you know, I'm rolling in it.
00:05:28.000 All that big YouTube money, the Benjamins.
00:05:32.000 And I want to, again, reiterate David Robinson.
00:05:34.000 Not the David Robinson you're thinking of.
00:05:35.000 Not the Admiral.
00:05:37.000 Possibly the best-looking man to have ever played professional sports.
00:05:39.000 That David Robinson?
00:05:40.000 Looks pretty good, yeah.
00:05:41.000 This is a man who actually is a CEO of a malware analysis firm called Malcor, and he is going to be breaking down the entire kind of TikTok report here today that he is releasing.
00:05:41.000 Yeah.
00:05:52.000 And this has to do with things like tracking, permissions, compromised security, and data that goes straight to China.
00:05:59.000 This is not a Dominion voting machine with some kind of a graph that doesn't exist.
00:06:02.000 This is something that has been studied by an expert.
00:06:03.000 It's actively happening, so I get it.
00:06:06.000 People who are anti-censorship?
00:06:08.000 Yep, I understand it.
00:06:09.000 This is not about banning TikTok.
00:06:11.000 This is about ensuring that TikTok is not effectively used.
00:06:14.000 Well, let's be honest, a weapon of war.
00:06:15.000 Yeah.
00:06:16.000 A weapon of war as it relates to the information age.
00:06:18.000 A lot of interesting stuff there and I'm looking forward to picking his brain.
00:06:21.000 Before that, here's a woman.
00:06:25.000 There's a problem.
00:06:26.000 With face tattoos who is surprised that she can't she's not being hired and she suspects that the reason they gave her and I'll give her credit here that the reason is not the real reason she may have a point guess the real reason
00:06:45.000 So I wanted to come on here and talk about something that is really starting to annoy me.
00:06:51.000 So I applied for a job at TJ Maxx a few weeks ago and they denied my application.
00:06:58.000 They couldn't even call me.
00:06:59.000 They just sent me some automated email.
00:07:03.000 So I went in today and I was like, so what was the reason I didn't get hired?
00:07:07.000 Pause!
00:07:08.000 Maybe because you look like Castlevania.
00:07:14.000 Play.
00:07:15.000 And she was like, oh, like, you just, like, don't have enough experience.
00:07:19.000 There was candidates that had, like, more experience than you.
00:07:22.000 Pause.
00:07:23.000 That's likely also true, including the realm of life experience, as displayed by the upside-down Satan on your neck.
00:07:30.000 Play.
00:07:32.000 And, you know, I asked her if it was about my tattoos, obviously, because I know a lot of places don't like tattoos.
00:07:39.000 She said that wasn't the reason.
00:07:41.000 If they told you that your tattoos had nothing to do with it, they're lying.
00:07:45.000 Play.
00:07:47.000 I don't feel like that's true, but whatever, I'll leave it at that.
00:07:51.000 So, I'm just wondering how, like, teenagers and young adults who haven't had a job before Um, how are they supposed to get employed if these places are only hiring people with experience?
00:08:10.000 So, younger people just can't get a job because they haven't worked enough?
00:08:15.000 So, like, they'll deny a 16-year-old a job because they don't have enough work experience?
00:08:21.000 Like, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
00:08:24.000 It almost is as if it makes perfect sense.
00:08:28.000 So a 16-year-old gets denied a job for someone with more experience?
00:08:31.000 Yeah.
00:08:32.000 Also not Satan tattoos.
00:08:35.000 And whatever it is on your arm that we can never tell, by the way.
00:08:37.000 I know you want to talk about the art, it's just one big giant ink blotch.
00:08:40.000 I'm guessing it's a mistake that she covered up with another mistake.
00:08:44.000 Well, what I also appreciate is she had the judgment to consider that one tattoo a mistake, but the others stay put.
00:08:52.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:08:53.000 These ones are the good ones.
00:08:54.000 Yeah, these are the good ones.
00:08:55.000 Those are the ones that made the cut.
00:08:56.000 Here's how this actually works.
00:08:59.000 Young people without experience have to work jobs typically that are at the bottom of the barrel so that they can work their way up, but these inevitably end up being jobs that you think are beneath you.
00:09:10.000 I guarantee you there are jobs out there for you.
00:09:12.000 Have you considered a foundry?
00:09:14.000 Construction sites aren't really discriminating on face tattoos.
00:09:17.000 That's right!
00:09:18.000 Carpentry in Haiti!
00:09:20.000 Cheap little fire pits.
00:09:22.000 That's really how they bake the dirt cookies.
00:09:24.000 Oh, I see.
00:09:25.000 You do have to cook them.
00:09:28.000 Are there no consequences for actions like, look, by the way, and I'm not anti-tattoo, but there's a big difference between that and having a few tattoos, and you can't be angry at someone for taking it into consideration, especially if, I don't know, it's a sales job.
00:09:43.000 I think she mentioned TJ Maxx.
00:09:44.000 Take that shit to Marshalls!
00:09:47.000 She couldn't cover her tattoos if she wore a burka to work.
00:09:50.000 No, she couldn't!
00:09:51.000 It's not like she had a little sleeve or something over here.
00:09:53.000 And then she had, I think, eight piercings on the top.
00:09:56.000 Four on the top, four on the bottom, plus the nose ring.
00:09:58.000 And I'm like, you're a walking resume.
00:10:01.000 And when I see it, I'm like, no.
00:10:04.000 No, you've made bad life decisions.
00:10:05.000 You'll probably screw up the job too.
00:10:07.000 And there were undoubtedly people along the way who said, you know, you probably shouldn't get that Satan face tattoo.
00:10:12.000 Maybe her last job.
00:10:14.000 She said, OK, Mom, I forgot you knew everything!
00:10:19.000 And then a few years later, the video.
00:10:22.000 You made your bed.
00:10:23.000 Enjoy it!
00:10:24.000 That's gonna hurt to get them removed.
00:10:26.000 I think that she maybe was a bad tattoo artist.
00:10:29.000 Really?
00:10:29.000 And just can't make it in the industry.
00:10:30.000 Everyone's like, no, it's not.
00:10:31.000 You're terrible.
00:10:32.000 You have to find another job.
00:10:33.000 Try TJ Maxx.
00:10:34.000 She's like, I've been trying!
00:10:35.000 You don't know what it's like out there in the real world!
00:10:40.000 And she finally got dumped by her tattoo boyfriend.
00:10:42.000 You probably shouldn't have used yourself as the blank canvas to test new work.
00:10:42.000 Yeah.
00:10:47.000 Don't worry.
00:10:48.000 She'll get hired as a kindergarten teacher.
00:10:49.000 We'll be fine.
00:10:49.000 Yes, she will.
00:10:50.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:10:52.000 Your skin?
00:10:52.000 What?
00:10:53.000 Yeah.
00:10:54.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:10:55.000 What?
00:10:55.000 So what?
00:10:56.000 We lose to young people?
00:10:57.000 Lose to people with experience?
00:11:00.000 I don't understand how those two phrases go together.
00:11:03.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:11:04.000 Places of employment employ people with experience.
00:11:07.000 This is where you've reached the point.
00:11:09.000 So it's TJ Maxx.
00:11:12.000 No offense to anybody, you know, all jobs are good jobs, but it's not like that's not true.
00:11:16.000 It's not like a job that it really acquires, you know, experience.
00:11:20.000 Not a ton, but you know, being nice.
00:11:21.000 Can you fold a shirt?
00:11:23.000 Can you fold a shirt?
00:11:24.000 Can you be presentable?
00:11:25.000 No.
00:11:26.000 Can you answer questions from people who are not terrified of you?
00:11:29.000 Yes, exactly.
00:11:30.000 We often get old women in here, old frail ladies and men, they come in here and they're gonna be afraid of you because this T.J.
00:11:37.000 Maxx is at a strip mall near a bus stop and you look like a robber.
00:11:42.000 So when the elephant man walks in for the interview right after she's like, oh, yeah Well, at least he's gonna get the job now.
00:11:46.000 He looks normal compared to this lady It's just always funny to be like don't judge a book by its cover when they focused entirely on the cover It did no work on the pages!
00:11:58.000 Not whatsoever!
00:12:00.000 Look at my cover!
00:12:01.000 The only thing on the page is, what do they call that header that just lists the title of the book?
00:12:06.000 So it's like the cover again.
00:12:08.000 She in fact messed up the cover once before and had to cover it up and make a new cover.
00:12:12.000 It's like if the cover would say Treasure Island and there would be blank pages except for that part that says Treasure Island.
00:12:18.000 Like, I saw that on the cover.
00:12:19.000 Like, yeah.
00:12:20.000 Wait, don't judge me by my cover.
00:12:21.000 It's only cover.
00:12:23.000 You clearly want this to be the first thing that people see.
00:12:25.000 You want to get attention from people and then bemoan them for giving you the kind of attention that you demanded.
00:12:31.000 Anyway, my point is, you made mistakes.
00:12:33.000 Live with them.
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00:13:19.000 All right.
00:13:20.000 Did the cap just fall flat off it?
00:13:21.000 That was kind of funny.
00:13:22.000 The cap was enthusiastic as well.
00:13:24.000 Yeah, baby!
00:13:25.000 Preach it!
00:13:26.000 Put me in a nose!
00:13:27.000 Wanted to get away from face tattoo lady.
00:13:28.000 I don't blame you.
00:13:31.000 No, not up that nose.
00:13:31.000 So, alright.
00:13:32.000 There's hardware in there.
00:13:35.000 Maybe if she'd take the diamonds out of her bull ring.
00:13:37.000 It'll come out of her lips.
00:13:38.000 Was it a diamond?
00:13:39.000 No, obviously not.
00:13:40.000 I have no idea.
00:13:41.000 It's fake bedazzled.
00:13:41.000 Oh, it was a cubic zirconium.
00:13:43.000 Yeah.
00:13:43.000 Yeah, that's a disqualifying fact right there.
00:13:44.000 Or just straight up glass.
00:13:46.000 Yeah, I have no idea.
00:13:48.000 Let's go to this really quickly.
00:13:48.000 All right.
00:13:50.000 It's day two of the Trump trial.
00:13:53.000 Day two of the Trump trial.
00:13:54.000 Are we day three today or day two?
00:13:56.000 Day two was yesterday.
00:13:56.000 It was yesterday.
00:13:57.000 So we're day three.
00:13:57.000 That's right.
00:13:58.000 And there were arguments about whether Trump violated the gag order, which is kind of silly because other people are not gagged and the media clearly is not gagged.
00:14:05.000 I mean, if you want to act as though this is a sealed courtroom and you have no information, just tune into CNN for any minute at any point during the day.
00:14:12.000 It's all they do.
00:14:13.000 I wish I was obsessed with anything.
00:14:15.000 As much as they are obsessed with the Trump trial.
00:14:18.000 So, after the court was adjourned yesterday, President Trump stepped out and... Now, typically with a gag order, you wouldn't say anything.
00:14:26.000 Yes.
00:14:27.000 Hence the term gag.
00:14:28.000 But.
00:14:28.000 But.
00:14:29.000 He immediately bitched about the gag order, effectively, and just was throwing seven different kinds of smoke immediately.
00:14:35.000 And by the way, this trial is all Biden.
00:14:37.000 You know, this is all Biden, just in case anybody has any questions.
00:14:41.000 And they're keeping me in a courtroom.
00:14:44.000 It's freezing, by the way.
00:14:46.000 In a courtroom, all day long.
00:14:48.000 My nipples are hard.
00:14:49.000 Well, he's out campaigning.
00:14:51.000 That's probably an advantage, because he can't campaign.
00:14:55.000 Nobody knows what he's doing.
00:14:56.000 You can't put two sentences together.
00:14:58.000 Unconstitutional gate order by a highly conflicted judge that should recuse himself.
00:15:05.000 Very simple.
00:15:06.000 All the schools should have never happened.
00:15:09.000 What's going on in this country now should have never happened.
00:15:12.000 But of course the Ukraine war would have never happened.
00:15:15.000 The Israeli attack would have never happened.
00:15:18.000 Inflation would have never happened.
00:15:20.000 We have the worst president in the history of our country and he's the one that has us in all these different lawsuits.
00:15:27.000 Thank you very much.
00:15:28.000 Boy, I hate to see him when he's not gagged.
00:15:32.000 How do you think you're going to be able to make him not speak to the public?
00:15:35.000 Yeah.
00:15:36.000 Like, if he does anything in his life, it is rage tweet.
00:15:40.000 Right, exactly.
00:15:41.000 That's the only thing.
00:15:42.000 By the way, it's kind of brilliant.
00:15:43.000 Every time he appears in front of a camera, turn it into a campaign stop, effectively, because they're trying to hamstring him, make lemonade out of lemons at that point.
00:15:50.000 These are all valid points.
00:15:52.000 Just leans into it.
00:15:53.000 I love it.
00:15:54.000 He just, like, takes it head on because it's like, hey, don't talk about the judge.
00:15:57.000 You mean that corrupt judge?
00:15:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:59.000 Is that not the purpose of the gag order, is to knowingly that he's gonna, you know, violate it and then put him away for some bullshit charge?
00:16:08.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:08.000 Isn't that kind of like the point?
00:16:09.000 Exactly.
00:16:10.000 They want him to go into court with trumped up charges.
00:16:12.000 They want him to go in, have to deal with it while the media speculates, all this press, and he says nothing.
00:16:16.000 And either, there's kind of two approaches here.
00:16:18.000 You either have to keep your head down because you know you've got just, it's a deadlock.
00:16:22.000 The win, then kind of go through the process, and then take a victory lap when you win.
00:16:26.000 Or, if you know that it's a lost cause, You just, right from the get-go, you don't follow the orders as far as gag orders, you defend yourself, and at a certain point it becomes white noise.
00:16:34.000 What they're hoping happens is, you know, Stormy Daniels will take the stand, a bunch of people will take the stand, they'll have some embarrassing personal information, and everyone will fling mud, they hope it damages Donald Trump, but the truth is at that point, it's just all going to be a circus, and people will be exhausted with it.
00:16:48.000 Donald Trump is, he's using the play of exhaustion.
00:16:51.000 The media wants to exhaust you over this?
00:16:52.000 All right, fine, he will too.
00:16:53.000 By the time they get to their star witnesses, You don't care.
00:16:57.000 Because inflation.
00:16:57.000 Why?
00:16:58.000 You don't care.
00:16:59.000 Why?
00:16:59.000 Because 7.5 million illegal immigrants have crossed the border, or at least that we know of in this last year.
00:17:04.000 You don't care anymore.
00:17:06.000 Because you probably have to work two or three jobs.
00:17:06.000 Why?
00:17:09.000 Why?
00:17:09.000 You don't care anymore.
00:17:10.000 Because we're involved in more foreign conflict than we were really at any point during President Trump's history, at any point that I can think of going back to, I don't know, 2007?
00:17:18.000 That's why you don't care at that point.
00:17:21.000 You don't care what some washed up, tired ex-porn star has to say about taxes.
00:17:27.000 Oh, that washed up.
00:17:28.000 Those titties floated her up.
00:17:30.000 Well, the courtroom's cold.
00:17:31.000 Ah!
00:17:32.000 They're planning ahead.
00:17:33.000 I love how he said that, the courtroom.
00:17:34.000 And by the way, it's cold.
00:17:35.000 The courtroom's cold!
00:17:37.000 It's the only way you make those tired, stormy tits presentable.
00:17:44.000 Firms the epidermis.
00:17:46.000 She needs it.
00:17:47.000 Loose skin.
00:17:48.000 In other news, Steven Seagal's Wanda Punani is now officially 20 years old.
00:17:55.000 Wanda Punani, she can make me nice.
00:17:58.000 Me love the way you walk sometimes and the way you talk is so hot.
00:18:02.000 He went through the process of recording that entire song and releasing it.
00:18:08.000 Wait, I thought he was Russian or Japanese or Native American or... Or black.
00:18:12.000 Or black at one point.
00:18:13.000 All of those.
00:18:14.000 Oh, wow.
00:18:15.000 Look, I'm part Russian and I'm part black because I used to play the blues out on the porch in Detroit.
00:18:22.000 And I think that I need to do a song about how I like vaginas.
00:18:27.000 Doesn't get talked about enough.
00:18:29.000 With a Jamaican accent.
00:18:29.000 They used to call me Stephen the Stoop.
00:18:31.000 Yes.
00:18:33.000 I would sit on the stoop with my boys.
00:18:34.000 Yeah, and then I would play...
00:18:37.000 The blues, and then I talk about how much I love the punani.
00:18:40.000 Bad things happen.
00:18:45.000 We know.
00:18:46.000 Yes.
00:18:47.000 We know.
00:18:48.000 It's not a shocker.
00:18:49.000 So immediately after the judge ended that hearing, Donald Trump took to Truth Social as well.
00:18:55.000 I just, look, I have to read it.
00:18:56.000 Okay, alright, he goes.
00:18:58.000 Highly conflicted, to put it mildly.
00:19:00.000 All caps, by the way.
00:19:02.000 Judge Juan Merchan has taken away my constitutional right to free speech.
00:19:06.000 Everyone is allowed to talk and lie about me, but I am not allowed to defend myself.
00:19:11.000 This is a kangaroo court, and the judge should recuse himself.
00:19:11.000 Not allowed.
00:19:17.000 I don't know how that gag order is working out.
00:19:22.000 Well, this is exactly the problem.
00:19:24.000 The judge brought him in on the gag order issue because of him going to social media and putting up posts like that.
00:19:29.000 So the very first thing he does, I guarantee you, he had this written beforehand and as soon as it went, boonk, gavel down, he's like, boop!
00:19:37.000 Send.
00:19:37.000 Yes.
00:19:38.000 Right.
00:19:39.000 Just put it right out.
00:19:39.000 Like, what are you going to do, judge?
00:19:41.000 I've got to imagine that his lawyers, they have to put makeup on the bruises on their foreheads because like, okay, the key is right now, just Lalo, don't say anything.
00:19:49.000 He's like a child who just has to rebel and disobey.
00:19:52.000 And by the way, I love this about him.
00:19:54.000 Don't say anything.
00:19:55.000 Don't get yourself into hot water, right?
00:19:56.000 Which would typically mean don't talk about Stormy Daniels.
00:19:59.000 Don't talk about the finances.
00:20:00.000 And not only does he do all of that, he makes it all the way down the list to the temperature.
00:20:07.000 Don't say anything.
00:20:08.000 Alright, I won't say anything about this being a kangaroo court.
00:20:10.000 Corrupt.
00:20:11.000 You're an awful judge.
00:20:12.000 And it's cold in here!
00:20:12.000 She's a whore.
00:20:14.000 The lawyer's just going... Exactly right.
00:20:19.000 He just didn't say... Well, I mean, at least at that point, you can't refute one thing.
00:20:23.000 No, you can't.
00:20:24.000 There's truth in there, because everyone else is like, yeah, it was pretty cold in there.
00:20:28.000 Yes, it was pretty cold.
00:20:29.000 He's right.
00:20:30.000 Cut and blast.
00:20:30.000 The coffee was ruined within five minutes.
00:20:32.000 Yep.
00:20:33.000 You know what?
00:20:34.000 He has a point.
00:20:35.000 He has a point.
00:20:36.000 You may not like his tone, but what he's saying is correct.
00:20:39.000 Hit the like button if you think they should make that climate in the courtroom a little more comfortable for the President of the United States.
00:20:45.000 Yeah, I think that's fair.
00:20:45.000 I think it's fair.
00:20:46.000 Befitting his, you know, title.
00:20:48.000 I'm a 68 to 71 guy in the house.
00:20:50.000 That's right.
00:20:51.000 Are you?
00:20:51.000 Yeah.
00:20:51.000 I think that's a good range.
00:20:51.000 Okay.
00:20:52.000 Yeah.
00:20:53.000 Depending on the thermostat.
00:20:54.000 Let's go to India.
00:20:55.000 That place is hot.
00:20:56.000 Oh yeah.
00:20:58.000 It's so hot.
00:20:59.000 Oh jeez.
00:21:00.000 You want the banana?
00:21:04.000 We've talked quite a bit on this program, and I've been doing this back to 2009 really, about the incompatibility of Islam and really Western civilization.
00:21:14.000 And I'm not just talking about the religion, I'm talking about the political prescription.
00:21:18.000 Dr. Ben Carson got into so much trouble because he said actually the Koran and Sharia law are incompatible with the Constitution and they accused him of racism at that point.
00:21:26.000 Islam is not the same as every other religion out there in that there is a very clearly defined political prescription and system of government.
00:21:33.000 Here's the thing, we're not the only ones to have highlighted this.
00:21:37.000 Pretty much every country in the world that doesn't want to live under Islamic rule has
00:21:42.000 come to that conclusion, which brings us to this week's Eye on India.
00:21:54.000 All right.
00:21:55.000 Toolman is so happy we finally got to use that.
00:21:57.000 You should keep two eyes on India.
00:21:57.000 We did.
00:21:59.000 It's been a while since we ran that one.
00:21:59.000 Yes.
00:22:01.000 So, India, they're in the middle of, right now, a six-week election.
00:22:05.000 Which is hilarious, by the way.
00:22:07.000 Six weeks, they freaking, what are you, taking up a Dominion machine with a Sherpa to get the one vote?
00:22:11.000 It's a huge country.
00:22:13.000 It is, but they literally make sure everybody votes.
00:22:15.000 I'm not kidding.
00:22:16.000 There's a guy, I think, that occupies, and he's the only person in that region who will be able to vote, and they made sure he had a polling booth there.
00:22:22.000 They're committed!
00:22:23.000 They are committed.
00:22:24.000 Even the guy who reps his wiener on the Bo staff.
00:22:27.000 He gets to vote.
00:22:28.000 Yeah.
00:22:28.000 Twice.
00:22:29.000 It's wiener yoga.
00:22:30.000 It is.
00:22:30.000 That's a thing.
00:22:31.000 What?
00:22:32.000 We'll talk about it on Mug Club.
00:22:33.000 Don't look it up.
00:22:34.000 We'll definitely get removed.
00:22:35.000 Okay.
00:22:36.000 So the Prime Minister, and I want to make sure I have this name right, it's Narendra Modi.
00:22:42.000 Indians watching, please let me know how I did with that.
00:22:44.000 He has angered Islamists, Muslims in general, again.
00:22:49.000 Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been accused of making Islamophobic comments during an election rally, triggering widespread anger from Muslims and members of the opposition.
00:23:00.000 Mr. Modi said if the opposition Congress is voted back into power, it would distribute citizens wealth among what he
00:23:07.000 called infiltrators.
00:23:10.000 And those who have more children, referring to Muslims in India.
00:23:14.000 The money of the government will be given to the cowards.
00:23:17.000 Do you agree with this?
00:23:20.000 This is the manifesto of Congress.
00:23:24.000 Can I appreciate the guys?
00:23:27.000 Thanks, Indian John Hammond.
00:23:30.000 That's uncanny.
00:23:32.000 Spot on.
00:23:33.000 And I appreciate what he's doing.
00:23:35.000 I just wish that other countries would stop remaking our classics.
00:23:38.000 Welcome to Jurassic Park.
00:23:41.000 We understand the culture here, you know?
00:23:57.000 I get it, different strokes, just make your own.
00:24:00.000 laughter...
00:24:04.000 So, gosh...
00:24:06.000 laughter...
00:24:08.000 If you expected more mature...
00:24:11.000 So, here's the thing.
00:24:12.000 The media, of course, was right away quick to condemn Modi's comments, right?
00:24:15.000 You see this from CNN, Time, Reuters, WaPo.
00:24:18.000 Let me ask you, do you actually agree with these legacy media outlets and think his comments are racist?
00:24:24.000 I don't believe so.
00:24:25.000 Let me walk you through some key facts here.
00:24:28.000 And I think this is important for everyone in the Western world to understand.
00:24:33.000 Let me set this actually, let me set the stage here.
00:24:35.000 Multiculturalism is a luxury only afforded to the modern world.
00:24:40.000 Kind of like climate policy, right?
00:24:42.000 Because you have the benefit now of living in a modern society with technology.
00:24:46.000 You've gone through the industrial revolution and now you're actually in, effectively, the digital revolution.
00:24:52.000 A lot of these other places in the world, they haven't necessarily gone through that, but no country has pulled themselves into the modern age Through multiculturalism.
00:24:59.000 They've had to do it with a clear identity, with a clear set of values, and a unified country, a unified nation.
00:25:06.000 And then, they fracture and become a mosaic.
00:25:08.000 It only happens with rich, white, affected, liberal countries.
00:25:11.000 No country has ever become successful through this idea of multiculturalism.
00:25:14.000 That is something that they recognize in India.
00:25:18.000 And if you look into the history, you go, oh, okay, this isn't just racism.
00:25:21.000 They've lived it, and they are living it.
00:25:23.000 So a key fact, uh, here, first key fact, I guess.
00:25:26.000 This man, Modi, super popular in India.
00:25:29.000 So if you are saying that he is racist, guess what?
00:25:31.000 You are saying that 75% of Indians are effectively racist.
00:25:36.000 That's higher than Malay.
00:25:36.000 Wow.
00:25:37.000 Yeah.
00:25:38.000 And Malay's doing great in Argentina right now.
00:25:40.000 Jeez.
00:25:40.000 Right.
00:25:41.000 And he, by the way, is also pretty big about a national identity.
00:25:44.000 He's basically kind of make India great again.
00:25:44.000 Another key fact.
00:25:48.000 I guess if it's... Miga.
00:25:49.000 Miga.
00:25:51.000 Yeah.
00:25:51.000 Miga.
00:25:51.000 Miga!
00:25:53.000 We make it great.
00:25:55.000 Make India.
00:25:55.000 Sometime.
00:25:56.000 Maybe not, but we'll try.
00:25:58.000 It will be okay.
00:26:01.000 How'd you use the soft A on that one?
00:26:03.000 He promotes Hindu culture.
00:26:05.000 Nationalism.
00:26:06.000 And by the way, 80% of Indians are Hindu.
00:26:08.000 So that matters to him.
00:26:10.000 Matters to seemingly a lot of Indians.
00:26:12.000 And if you want to vilify him, you're vilifying the people of India who believe they should have a national identity.
00:26:16.000 What happened to all cultures being equal?
00:26:18.000 Here's another key fact for you.
00:26:21.000 This man, his party, they have a pretty long history with Muslims.
00:26:25.000 Let me give you some of this here.
00:26:27.000 In 2021, the Indian government placed the only Muslim-majority state under direct government rule.
00:26:32.000 Now, you might see that, New York Times may see that and say, oh my gosh, fascism, racism.
00:26:37.000 Let me get to why.
00:26:38.000 They also in 2022 banned a Muslim group.
00:26:42.000 It was a popular front of India for direct ties to terrorism.
00:26:45.000 That's reasonable.
00:26:46.000 It would be nice if we did that with our groups on college campus and money from Qatar.
00:26:49.000 But hey, India is actually ahead of us on that.
00:26:52.000 We could take some notes from India.
00:26:54.000 Now, if you don't remember this, in 2008, there was the Mumbai terror attack.
00:26:59.000 Hostages were taken, 174 people were killed, over 300 people were injured.
00:27:05.000 There's been a long and short history with India, and you look at what's happened there, and I can't get into all of it, but Islam, Hinduism, there's been conflict.
00:27:13.000 This is not something that is new to them, and so they say, hold on a second, we need to put this Only Muslim-majority state under control.
00:27:20.000 Well, because historically, if they get the power of the majority, they start killing people.
00:27:20.000 Why?
00:27:27.000 And it concerns them because they've lived it.
00:27:30.000 They have to live with it in India.
00:27:33.000 You don't, UK.
00:27:35.000 Or DNC here in the United States.
00:27:37.000 So you say racism, they say, I watched a friend die.
00:27:41.000 Or I saw what happened to my country over a period of decades and I don't want it to happen again.
00:27:45.000 They recognize the direct political threat that Islam, a political prescription, represents.
00:27:52.000 Most of it, 75%, that includes this guy who drinks cow pee!
00:27:58.000 Here in the western state of Gujarat, cow urine is being used to treat a whole range of ailments.
00:28:05.000 Many people know that cow urine is beneficial and that it has lots of herbs in it.
00:28:13.000 So, by and large, people are not reluctant to take it.
00:28:16.000 That's my dentist!
00:28:21.000 I don't know that what he just said was...
00:28:23.000 True.
00:28:25.000 Can we- Many, many people doing Calpi.
00:28:28.000 They all know the benefits.
00:28:28.000 Uh, I don't think so.
00:28:30.000 It has herbs in it.
00:28:33.000 What's- Wait.
00:28:34.000 What ailment?
00:28:35.000 You have clinical death.
00:28:35.000 What's your control group?
00:28:36.000 Death?
00:28:37.000 Yeah.
00:28:38.000 Perfect health.
00:28:38.000 Look at me.
00:28:40.000 Bring that guy back up.
00:28:41.000 Bring that guy back up.
00:28:41.000 Yeah.
00:28:42.000 He's the spokesperson for the Calpis movement.
00:28:45.000 And then they go on and that specialist say- Look at that.
00:28:45.000 Yeah.
00:28:47.000 They use- They- Top medical official.
00:28:53.000 And he is not representative of all of medicine in India, by the way.
00:28:55.000 Of course not.
00:28:56.000 They actually use medicine that works.
00:28:57.000 This guy just really has a thing for cow urine.
00:29:01.000 Yeah.
00:29:02.000 Keep it coming.
00:29:06.000 What ailments does it cure?
00:29:07.000 Well, thirst, hunger.
00:29:11.000 Are there better options for thirst?
00:29:13.000 Yes, maybe.
00:29:14.000 Yeah, there's options.
00:29:15.000 You could have something that is not cow pee.
00:29:18.000 Oh, that's so disgusting.
00:29:20.000 But where would you get your herbs?
00:29:21.000 I prefer cow pee.
00:29:22.000 Can I get my herbs from the herbs?
00:29:25.000 Yeah, could I just get it from the cow pee?
00:29:26.000 I mean, you have to supplement your herbs.
00:29:28.000 You have to take a bottle of herb supplements with your water.
00:29:31.000 Could I just take it from the herb garden and not drink the cow pee?
00:29:35.000 You could.
00:29:36.000 It's right here.
00:29:37.000 I got a bucket.
00:29:37.000 I got a pee guy.
00:29:38.000 He collects it in a bucket.
00:29:39.000 You could do that too!
00:29:40.000 What are we, like the filtering of a cow?
00:29:42.000 Different strokes!
00:29:43.000 For me, it's cow pee!
00:29:45.000 The cows ate all the herbs.
00:29:50.000 Beat the cows to the herbs, come on!
00:29:53.000 And also to give you an idea, Modi added 110 million new toilets in India, just to be clear.
00:29:58.000 This is something that people there want.
00:29:59.000 They're saying, we want to be brought in... What?
00:30:02.000 I'm bringing good news, Gerald.
00:30:03.000 I know, I'm sorry, but when you look at your platform, when you point to your results, inflation is down, the economy is roaring, no new wars, we added toilets.
00:30:12.000 Hey, perspective, Gerald.
00:30:14.000 Yes, I'm not sure.
00:30:17.000 It would be kind of funny to see Trump campaigning on that, though.
00:30:20.000 I added 110 million toilets in my campaign!
00:30:24.000 That's a lot of toilets, man!
00:30:26.000 You must have had a lot of vacancies to fill!
00:30:28.000 Hey, I could use a couple more toilets myself, to be honest.
00:30:31.000 Yeah, well, we don't need any more in DC.
00:30:33.000 They're called the Democrat Party.
00:30:37.000 Just imagine that.
00:30:39.000 110 million new toilets.
00:30:39.000 That's enough of a problem.
00:30:40.000 This is what these people need.
00:30:40.000 Think about it.
00:30:42.000 If you're a privileged white person in the western world, hey, you don't think about the fact that you need toilets.
00:30:47.000 This is part of his platform that people like.
00:30:50.000 There is nothing to fear!
00:30:53.000 Other than shit in the streets, that we don't like.
00:30:56.000 We don't like that.
00:30:57.000 Ask not if you can shit in the street, ask if there's a toilet nearby.
00:31:01.000 Come on, we are, we are humans.
00:31:03.000 Well, he's, this guy's part of the movement.
00:31:05.000 Like we're seeing kind of the Donald Trump of, right?
00:31:07.000 He's the Donald Trump of India right now.
00:31:09.000 He's focusing on trying to make India better and people love it.
00:31:13.000 And he's also protecting their national identity to some degree.
00:31:17.000 And he's leaning into it.
00:31:18.000 He doesn't, he doesn't, uh, he doesn't deal in guilt.
00:31:21.000 That's the thing.
00:31:22.000 So to give you an idea, in January, this January, geez, this one, okay, hold on to your butts.
00:31:22.000 He doesn't just sit.
00:31:28.000 He attended the dedication of a Hindu temple.
00:31:30.000 Fine.
00:31:31.000 Built on the ashes of a mosque.
00:31:34.000 That is fine.
00:31:35.000 Which prompted Genghis.
00:31:37.000 Genghis Khan rolled over in his grave and said, That's a bit much.
00:31:43.000 That's severe.
00:31:45.000 What land are we going to use?
00:31:46.000 I don't know.
00:31:47.000 Burn that.
00:31:47.000 Yes.
00:31:48.000 It's like getting married on your dead wife's grave.
00:31:51.000 AIDS!
00:31:58.000 Well done!
00:31:59.000 Or was it Hep C?
00:32:01.000 I don't know.
00:32:02.000 Probably AIDS.
00:32:03.000 Jenny was whore.
00:32:05.000 She slept with Fauci.
00:32:06.000 So here's another, here's another key fact.
00:32:10.000 This brings us to something that I think, you know, there's no way around this.
00:32:13.000 Islam is, it's not just incompatible with the Western, it's incompatible with non-Islamic countries.
00:32:21.000 Okay, now, we've done this before.
00:32:23.000 We've done the Koran Challenge.
00:32:24.000 Read five pages in any direction.
00:32:24.000 Open the Koran.
00:32:26.000 See if you can spot the problem with a modern, civilized society.
00:32:30.000 If you don't primarily believe in, for example, violence to those who don't follow your religion.
00:32:36.000 If you believe in actual equal rights for men and women.
00:32:40.000 No, I'm not talking about privileges, and I'm not talking about Title IX and trans and sports, and I'm not talking about affirmative action.
00:32:45.000 I'm talking about a woman having the right to, you know, drive and not be beaten.
00:32:49.000 Let's go even further, though.
00:32:50.000 Aside from the Qur'an, let's go to how this plays out in practice.
00:32:53.000 We've talked about this before.
00:32:54.000 across the world, 198 million Muslims, 198 million Muslims worldwide support the use of at least
00:33:04.000 some violence in the realm of conflict, in the realm of people converting, in
00:33:09.000 the realm of basically anyone not following lockstep with Islam.
00:33:13.000 198 million Muslims worldwide support some use of violence.
00:33:17.000 The people who support use of violence strongly is still well over 50 million.
00:33:22.000 Yes.
00:33:23.000 But don't cite that number or they'll kill you.
00:33:27.000 And in India, by contrast, Hindus there believe in ahimsa as a principle of non-violence.
00:33:34.000 That's a big part of Hinduism.
00:33:36.000 Now, you may prefer Islam, but you have to recognize that Hinduism is different from Islam, and they want to protect it.
00:33:43.000 I'm not Hindu.
00:33:45.000 But I also understand why Hindus might be concerned, especially, again, if you look at the history of the region.
00:33:49.000 Three in four Indian Muslims want actual Sharia courts.
00:33:54.000 Three in four Indian Muslims want Sharia courts.
00:33:56.000 By the way, the one in four is a woman, and the poll has a margin of error of plus or minus one bitch, so it's a little bit tough to...
00:34:04.000 But think about it.
00:34:05.000 Three in four want sharia courts.
00:34:06.000 Do you know what happens in sharia court?
00:34:08.000 You have no- Oh, you were raped?
00:34:08.000 Yeah.
00:34:10.000 How many witnesses do you have or we maybe stone you to death if you come forward?
00:34:14.000 Oh, wait a second.
00:34:14.000 Right.
00:34:15.000 You don't want to lose your children?
00:34:17.000 Before we even get to no-fault divorce here in the States, he can say divorce, divorce, divorce three times, go to sharia court.
00:34:23.000 Good enough for us.
00:34:24.000 You lose your rights, mom.
00:34:25.000 That's a sharia court.
00:34:27.000 This isn't something that white conservative conspiracy theorists have made up.
00:34:31.000 Three in four Indians support actual Sharia courts.
00:34:35.000 Are you familiar with Sharia law?
00:34:38.000 Please comment below if you are.
00:34:40.000 Have you seen it in practice?
00:34:42.000 Are you aware of these laws?
00:34:44.000 Do you know how women are treated?
00:34:45.000 How do you think this pans out for LGBTQAI plus?
00:34:50.000 Have you heard- Ooh, a subdued rainbow.
00:34:51.000 Yes.
00:34:53.000 I mean, this happened in the UK, where they had Sharia law courts, like the Sharia courts were instituted in certain areas.
00:34:59.000 And I don't know if you remember this, but several years back, and it's still this way, but we don't hear about it as much, there were no Go Zones.
00:35:04.000 I don't know of any other group of people that comes in and says, we're not going to abide by your nation's laws, we want to set up our own courts to handle this stuff.
00:35:04.000 Right.
00:35:13.000 And also, by the way, you're not allowed in this part of the city that we've moved to.
00:35:18.000 Like, that doesn't happen.
00:35:19.000 That's not somebody coming in to try to be a part of your society.
00:35:21.000 That's somebody coming in to take over your society.
00:35:24.000 And these guys, let's just be clear, too, India and Pakistan have never been friends.
00:35:24.000 Right.
00:35:28.000 No.
00:35:28.000 These guys are going to fight until the earth ends at some point.
00:35:31.000 Yes.
00:35:31.000 Effectively.
00:35:32.000 And Muslim, you know, Hindu population, and, you know, the nuclear thing.
00:35:35.000 They're probably the first to pop it off.
00:35:36.000 That's kind of a big deal.
00:35:38.000 A lot of people haven't really taken it into consideration.
00:35:39.000 Also notice with Islamic countries, you don't see Christians or Hindus trying to reformat their laws.
00:35:47.000 Because it's a lost cause.
00:35:48.000 In other words, oh, Islamic country?
00:35:49.000 Okay, absolutely.
00:35:50.000 I lose all my rights.
00:35:51.000 So you simply decide not to live there.
00:35:53.000 The best you can hope for is internationally to contain the violence so that it doesn't spread to other countries.
00:35:58.000 However, in other countries that are even remotely tolerant, what happens whenever the Islamic population grows?
00:36:04.000 They say, no, no, we want to start changing the country to our laws.
00:36:07.000 Pick any country, any Islamic country, where Islam has had political power, right?
00:36:12.000 I'm not talking about American Muslims where obviously they wouldn't be able to affect the laws here in this country and establish Sharia courts.
00:36:17.000 Anywhere that there is a Muslim majority rule and they create a government as they see fit, point me to any country in the last century that has had a decade and a half of basic enjoyment of human rights, civility, non-violence.
00:36:34.000 You can't.
00:36:35.000 Bikinis in Iran in the 70s, great.
00:36:37.000 That didn't last long.
00:36:38.000 No.
00:36:39.000 It never does.
00:36:40.000 This is not the exception with Islam.
00:36:42.000 Once it achieves power, it is always the rule.
00:36:48.000 And in India, they've lived it.
00:36:48.000 Let's be clear about that.
00:36:50.000 They're concerned about it.
00:36:51.000 And I just, it gets my coat when you see a bunch of Americans going, this is intolerant, I can't believe this, this Prime Minister.
00:36:57.000 Have you spent some time there?
00:36:57.000 Hold on a second.
00:36:59.000 Are you aware of what a Sharia court is?
00:37:01.000 And let's even go to, you know, Muslims in America.
00:37:05.000 You have, in the United States, you have 60% of United States Muslims say that Hamas was justified in attacking Israel on October 7th.
00:37:13.000 Not, they don't like Israel and they think there should be a two-state solution.
00:37:19.000 60% of American Muslims say Hamas was justified attacking Israel on October 7th.
00:37:24.000 Meaning, they've seen the attack!
00:37:26.000 They know what happened.
00:37:27.000 They know it's Hamas.
00:37:29.000 60% say good going here in the states.
00:37:34.000 We're still talking about white supremacists?
00:37:37.000 Biggest threat to our nation, Steven.
00:37:38.000 Yeah, biggest threat to our nation.
00:37:40.000 It's like, I think you're kind of a threat.
00:37:41.000 Well, where do you get that?
00:37:42.000 Well, because you said that you support terrorism.
00:37:45.000 I wonder how they feel about 9-11.
00:37:48.000 I think they were cheering.
00:37:48.000 There were quite a few.
00:37:49.000 I think they're afraid to take that poll.
00:37:51.000 They're afraid to take that poll.
00:37:52.000 I was in Canada.
00:37:53.000 I was in Canada when it happened, and I watched some people cheer.
00:37:57.000 They were happy about it.
00:37:58.000 That's insane.
00:37:59.000 The guy came into school, he had an I plain New York shirt, and I got in deep trouble because I read him the riot act and we almost came to fisticuffs.
00:38:08.000 This was in Greenfield Park outside of Montreal.
00:38:11.000 Now in the UK, 46% of UK Muslims are Pro-Hamas.
00:38:17.000 In general.
00:38:18.000 46% is bad enough.
00:38:23.000 60% supporting, actually, the October 7th attacks.
00:38:27.000 Of course, performed by Hamas.
00:38:29.000 46 and 60?
00:38:30.000 Think about that for a second.
00:38:32.000 Those should be single-digit numbers.
00:38:33.000 They shouldn't exist.
00:38:34.000 But if they do exist, they should be single-digit numbers and we should be able to point to them like the Westboro Baptists and say, they don't represent us.
00:38:40.000 Right.
00:38:42.000 They do represent you, Islam.
00:38:44.000 This is the problem that we have.
00:38:45.000 And in India, they're dealing with it with a huge Islamic country right next door.
00:38:50.000 They have first-hand experience.
00:38:51.000 It's like the issue with the border.
00:38:54.000 People in New York were all about, you know, make sure people can come into this country.
00:38:57.000 It's totally fine.
00:38:58.000 Don't do anything with the border.
00:38:59.000 People in Arizona, Texas, California, New Mexico were saying, hey, wait a minute.
00:39:02.000 We've got a serious problem.
00:39:03.000 Let's bring the problem to your front door and see if your attitude changes.
00:39:06.000 Chicago, New York, San Francisco, your attitude's changing quite a bit.
00:39:10.000 That's why India is where they are.
00:39:11.000 And as much as I don't like what the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs, that's why China is where they are.
00:39:16.000 They're doing it in a bad way, but they're also protecting their national identity from the threat that they're seeing with Islam.
00:39:22.000 Now, for them, they just don't want to lose control of the elites in China, so that's a bad thing.
00:39:26.000 But this guy's saying, hey, popular elections, let's vote.
00:39:29.000 By the way, you guys can't just have free stuff coming into our country.
00:39:34.000 Calls them invaders.
00:39:35.000 This is their kind of border issue to some degree.
00:39:35.000 Yes he does.
00:39:38.000 People coming in, not assimilating into their culture, don't give a crap about the culture and want to take over.
00:39:45.000 You have to put a stop to that somehow.
00:39:46.000 I wish these people didn't hate their own country so much.
00:39:50.000 Yeah.
00:39:51.000 It's a good- They're all leaving.
00:39:52.000 They're all- You guys, it's all great, and you want to spread, but- Stay in Pakistan!
00:39:54.000 Why are you leaving it?
00:39:55.000 Yeah.
00:39:56.000 Why- Stop leaving it!
00:39:57.000 Yeah.
00:39:57.000 You guys all want to be together?
00:39:58.000 Hang out, homie?
00:39:59.000 They want the luxuries afforded to them by a- an enlightened society, um, without actually living in it, and then they want to change- Tearing it down.
00:40:06.000 Literally tearing it down.
00:40:07.000 It's like some of the Californians who moved to Texas.
00:40:09.000 They flee California, and then they say, I want to bring the policies that I fled to Texas.
00:40:14.000 Now, not most of them.
00:40:15.000 Most of the Californians coming here, actually, they're pretty reasonable.
00:40:17.000 They feel like they made it to safe ground.
00:40:19.000 They feel like they made it to safe ground.
00:40:20.000 But every now and then you run into a Californian who's like, yeah, you know, I left California.
00:40:23.000 Oh, why?
00:40:24.000 Well, you know, there was no more, uh, there were no more job opportunities.
00:40:27.000 I had to come here for work.
00:40:28.000 But you know, I really miss, and they go down the list of things that led to no job opportunities.
00:40:36.000 Let's take this number, 46%.
00:40:36.000 I wouldn't even take the 60 who supported Hamas.
00:40:39.000 Hey, feminists, if 46% of men supported beating women, would that be a problem?
00:40:44.000 If 46% of Trump voters supported actually bombing Congress, would that be a problem?
00:40:53.000 If 46% supported in Charlottesville, as opposed to saying not neo-Nazis, not white supremacists, running someone over with a Dodge Challenger, would that be a problem?
00:41:02.000 Because all of those things pale in comparison to the October 7 attacks.
00:41:06.000 And that's a 60% number.
00:41:08.000 Let alone 46% in the UK who just support Hamas in general.
00:41:11.000 To me, what's so shocking about that, is that poll was framed in a way to give you an out Like, hey, do you... I bet you the poll taker thought, you know what, I'm gonna carry the water here.
00:41:23.000 Do you just support everything about Hamas?
00:41:27.000 Yes.
00:41:28.000 You don't have to support everything.
00:41:30.000 I can put you down as no, and 46% were like, check the why box.
00:41:34.000 The guy's like, say no, come on, just say no.
00:41:38.000 I'll mark you down as a maybe.
00:41:40.000 Yes!
00:41:41.000 They had a more nuanced question, like, ah, this might produce like a 46% result.
00:41:45.000 We don't want that.
00:41:46.000 Yeah, we don't want that.
00:41:47.000 Now remember, if you say yes, you support them.
00:41:49.000 You also support rape, violence for no reason, antisemitism, genocide.
00:41:54.000 Oh, still yes.
00:41:54.000 Uh-huh.
00:41:55.000 Oh, okay.
00:41:57.000 I am very white.
00:42:00.000 So, and you can comment below, we talk about this with climate change policy, right?
00:42:06.000 Where, hey, to you, gas prices going up a buck, buck fifty, doubling.
00:42:12.000 It sucks.
00:42:13.000 It's inconvenient.
00:42:14.000 In rural parts of Mexico, people die.
00:42:17.000 Because their entire life is about eating, sustaining themselves, usually trying to afford some kind of usable energy.
00:42:24.000 Happens all across South America, happens across Asia, right?
00:42:27.000 If energy costs go up, they die.
00:42:29.000 So it's a luxury for you.
00:42:30.000 Oh, an electric car?
00:42:31.000 Well, most people don't have the money to buy a brand new electric car.
00:42:34.000 Purchase carbon offsets?
00:42:36.000 Must be nice, Al Gore, when you fly first class or fly private.
00:42:40.000 Same thing here.
00:42:40.000 Multiculturalism is a luxury that is only afforded to those In the United States, in the UK, from nations that have propelled themselves into the modern era
00:42:52.000 Without multiculturalism.
00:42:53.000 And then we fracture.
00:42:54.000 And then we destroy ourselves from within.
00:42:56.000 That's pretty much any empire, any great nation, any formidable foe, they have to have a unified identity.
00:43:02.000 The thing is in the United States, it's not based on a race.
00:43:04.000 It's based on a series of ideas.
00:43:06.000 How do we know?
00:43:07.000 We wrote them down.
00:43:08.000 Isn't that great?
00:43:09.000 Multiculturalism cannot create a great nation.
00:43:12.000 It's not a luxury that a place like India can afford right now when most of their country lives in abject poverty to the point where an election, a campaigning issue is more toilets.
00:43:22.000 They're not concerned about your pride parade and multiculturalism.
00:43:25.000 So people of India, at least 75% of you, we hear you.
00:43:31.000 We get it.
00:43:31.000 This is a legitimate gripe.
00:43:33.000 Do not listen to the legacy media outlets who are trying to browbeat you for your concern of your own personal safety and the future of your family.
00:43:42.000 Makes sense.
00:43:43.000 I don't know everything about this Prime Minister, but you know what?
00:43:45.000 From what I know, hey, seems to be headed in the right direction.
00:43:49.000 This has been Eye on India.
00:43:51.000 All right, we have our guest coming up here in a few minutes, David Robinson.
00:44:02.000 Not that one.
00:44:02.000 Not that one.
00:44:03.000 Different one.
00:44:04.000 Possibly best-looking guy ever.
00:44:05.000 Can someone bring up David Robinson in his uniform?
00:44:08.000 Yeah.
00:44:09.000 We have it.
00:44:10.000 Yeah.
00:44:10.000 Oh, we do?
00:44:11.000 Oh, bring it up.
00:44:11.000 Well, I don't know if we have it right now.
00:44:12.000 No, we don't have it.
00:44:13.000 You spoke out of turn.
00:44:14.000 They had it out there.
00:44:15.000 I saw it out there, so they'll be able to send it in.
00:44:17.000 Oops.
00:44:17.000 Wow.
00:44:18.000 And this man, though, David Robinson, is going to be Providing for the first time today, an exclusive look at this in-depth report of TikTok and how they are using your data and the risk that they actually pose.
00:44:29.000 Now, to be clear, no one here wants TikTok, at least as far as I, to be banned.
00:44:33.000 That's not what we're pushing for.
00:44:34.000 No.
00:44:34.000 No.
00:44:35.000 We're just making sure that they can't send data back to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:44:38.000 Americans' consumer data.
00:44:40.000 And also, you know, bank account information, apparently, from TikTokers.
00:44:42.000 We'll read about that, too.
00:44:43.000 We'll talk about that.
00:44:45.000 Look at that guy.
00:44:46.000 That's straight out of Central Cast.
00:44:47.000 He would never fit in a sub, though.
00:44:49.000 No, he would not.
00:44:50.000 He's gotta stay on the deck of a carrier.
00:44:51.000 Or walk like an L the whole way.
00:44:53.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:44:56.000 He's 7'1".
00:44:57.000 And he doesn't have the weird proportions that a lot of tall guys have.
00:45:00.000 No.
00:45:00.000 He just looks like a jacked tall guy.
00:45:04.000 Good for him.
00:45:05.000 I didn't think he was 7'1".
00:45:07.000 The gingersnap was like, no, he's like 7'2".
00:45:07.000 I had to be corrected.
00:45:09.000 And I'm like, no, he's not.
00:45:10.000 I was thinking like 6'11".
00:45:11.000 He was a tall dude.
00:45:13.000 7'1".
00:45:13.000 Good player.
00:45:15.000 Thick stache, too.
00:45:16.000 None of this happens without you, of course.
00:45:21.000 Report that we have here today, the undercover unit.
00:45:23.000 Of course, you get a whole extra hundred percent of show.
00:45:25.000 You get Nick DiPaolo every day.
00:45:27.000 You get everything that comes with Mug Club.
00:45:28.000 But none of this happens without you, because we are not funded by a foreign caliphate.
00:45:31.000 Let's go to foreign interference here.
00:45:34.000 Last night, the Senate passed, of course, the massive foreign aid package, 60 billion to Ukraine.
00:45:40.000 It's just funny to me that that was the border bill.
00:45:43.000 And now it's just, let's just give them the money anyway.
00:45:45.000 And then they also said, let's sprinkle in kind of this TikTok ban.
00:45:51.000 On this vote, the yeas are 79, the nays are 18.
00:45:55.000 The motion to concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment to H.R.
00:45:59.000 815 is agreed to.
00:46:02.000 Our allies around the world have been watching Congress for the last six months and wondering the same thing.
00:46:08.000 When it matters most, will America summon the strength to come together, overcome the centrifugal pull of partisanship, and meet the magnitude of this moment?
00:46:20.000 Tonight, under the watchful eye of history, the Senate answers this question with a thunderous and resounding yes.
00:46:32.000 Oh, no, wait, sorry.
00:46:34.000 TikTok, it was a part of it.
00:46:36.000 But they were talking about giving your money for more foreign conflicts.
00:46:39.000 I'm sorry.
00:46:39.000 They just rolled these things together.
00:46:41.000 I think we have a video that is relating to TikTok, kind of a big deal.
00:46:43.000 A little bit more about TikTok.
00:46:44.000 Let's see.
00:46:45.000 The Senate passed a bill that could either ban or force the sale of TikTok.
00:46:49.000 The House passed it on Saturday.
00:46:51.000 It was packaged with foreign aid for Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan.
00:46:55.000 That bill now heads to President Biden's desk, and he's expected to sign it tomorrow.
00:47:01.000 There should be some kind of a law in the books that just says, well, you can't just put in one thing $60 billion to Ukraine and $21 billion, whatever it is, to Israel and Gaza collectively.
00:47:14.000 I believe the number, I guess it was Israel's $15 billion and another $9 billion to Gaza.
00:47:18.000 You can't just put that in and then kind of as a footnote, you know, the TikTok issue.
00:47:25.000 It's kind of a big deal.
00:47:26.000 People are going to ask questions.
00:47:28.000 You have to do it separately.
00:47:31.000 Doesn't that make, comment below, wouldn't that make sense to say, no, no, no, separate.
00:47:36.000 Bill, to give 60 billion to Ukraine.
00:47:38.000 Oh, that's right.
00:47:38.000 They do it because they try and sandwich something in between something that is actually popular and has support, and then put something else in that would not have the majority of support.
00:47:46.000 So to give you an idea, again, we talked about this before.
00:47:49.000 The parent company of TikTok is ByteDance, and they're going to have nine months to sell the company to some kind of United States-based company, or one that actually follows these protocols, parameters that have been laid out, or they're just going to be banned in the U.S.
00:48:02.000 Right.
00:48:02.000 app stores.
00:48:03.000 Much like when you get pregnant.
00:48:04.000 Nine months.
00:48:05.000 You've got nine months to sell it.
00:48:07.000 I've forgotten about the baby.
00:48:08.000 No?
00:48:08.000 Is that not how it works?
00:48:10.000 Effectively, yeah.
00:48:11.000 I mean, it depends if it's a good-looking baby or not.
00:48:12.000 If you find out late, you've got eight months to sell it.
00:48:14.000 If the baby looks like David Robinson, you fetch a pretty penny.
00:48:16.000 Hey, you can sell it whenever.
00:48:18.000 Looks like me?
00:48:19.000 No, it's going to be a T.J.
00:48:20.000 Metcalf-turned-policy.
00:48:23.000 Tattoo Face is going to be restocking you in the back.
00:48:27.000 And this is something else that I know people have sort of made this center just on censorship.
00:48:32.000 And we had Vivek on to talk about this, but there's a new report.
00:48:35.000 This is from a 2023 report, by the way, by a cybersecurity firm.
00:48:38.000 It's called Malcor.
00:48:39.000 David Robinson is going to be here.
00:48:41.000 TikTok was by far, by far the least secure, most at-risk app on the market.
00:48:49.000 Wow.
00:48:49.000 That means that Gerald's Grindr profile is more secure than the average TikTok.
00:48:53.000 Yeah, look at you, handsome man.
00:48:59.000 Get out there, boys.
00:49:00.000 Find him.
00:49:01.000 I am not 52 and also not on Grindr.
00:49:04.000 Looking for a strong enchantment.
00:49:05.000 We just saw that you are on Grindr.
00:49:06.000 Are you going to lie to us right here in studio, Gerald?
00:49:09.000 We can clearly see you're on Grindr.
00:49:11.000 It's wrong to lie.
00:49:12.000 I mean, you lied on your profile.
00:49:14.000 That's even worse, too.
00:49:15.000 You shouldn't be telling these young men that you're more wise and older.
00:49:18.000 You're giving them false hope.
00:49:20.000 To whatever.
00:49:21.000 You're poisoning their little gay souls.
00:49:23.000 All these twinks have this old man fantasy and you're just teasing them.
00:49:27.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm not 50.
00:49:28.000 I love how it's a very, very flattering picture.
00:49:30.000 It was actually.
00:49:31.000 It is.
00:49:31.000 Oh, thank you.
00:49:32.000 And also horribly humbling.
00:49:37.000 It's like, you know, it could have been worse where it's like a really unflattering picture.
00:49:43.000 You look very good.
00:49:44.000 You do look good for 52.
00:49:45.000 Yeah, you look like a really good-looking 52-year-old who puts it all together well, who likes to be banged by guys.
00:49:49.000 I'm none of... Describe it, Gerald!
00:49:53.000 Thank you for saying I look good.
00:49:55.000 I disagree with the rest, though.
00:49:57.000 Yeah, and I know what some people are saying, like, hey, hey, are you insulting someone by insinuating that they may be a homosexual?
00:50:03.000 Yeah.
00:50:03.000 A little bit.
00:50:05.000 Well, it's funny because it's Gerald.
00:50:07.000 Yeah, it's funny because it's Gerald.
00:50:09.000 You know, also it's funny because gay sometimes is funny.
00:50:13.000 Is that okay with you?
00:50:14.000 We don't care.
00:50:15.000 So here now with a first look at Malcor's 2024 report, and this is exclusive.
00:50:21.000 No one has seen this yet.
00:50:23.000 We're going to be discussing TikTok, the issues, cybersecurity issues, Malcor's CEO, David Robinson.
00:50:28.000 Let's bring him on.
00:50:29.000 All right.
00:50:35.000 I almost said Mr. Malkor.
00:50:37.000 Mr. Robinson, can you see, hear us, sir?
00:50:39.000 How are you?
00:50:41.000 I've got you, Steve, and you guys got me loud and clear?
00:50:43.000 Yes, we do.
00:50:44.000 I appreciate that you have the hoodie that says the name of your company so that people don't miss it.
00:50:50.000 Well, I've got to rep the brand one shot, right?
00:50:52.000 Well, it's going to be competing with the lower third that we had prepared that also says Melcore.
00:50:57.000 But tell us a little bit for people who don't know before we get to this report, which is very alarming from what you've told us.
00:51:05.000 Tell me about your company and how you got wrapped up with this TikTok issue for people who don't know.
00:51:12.000 Yeah, well, I mean, first, thanks for having me.
00:51:15.000 I think it's a hey-ho.
00:51:16.000 I just got back from the pub, actually, and there was a fat lady singing because it's been quite a few years.
00:51:22.000 Yeah.
00:51:22.000 We've been, you know, it's a mini war for TikTok, existential for them.
00:51:28.000 I'm still alive, though.
00:51:29.000 We've been writing reports about TikTok for the last three to four years.
00:51:35.000 2022 was our major report that basically got pushed into the Australian media and then globally.
00:51:41.000 A lot of Organizations, governments, researchers have read that report, which really brought to light the data collection issues, privacy issues, how TikTok basically, in their source code, acts.
00:51:58.000 Talk us through this new 2024 report that people watching right now have not seen.
00:52:02.000 This is now going to be available to the world.
00:52:04.000 We've made it available at loudearthcrowder.com, and of course, full credit, I recommend people go and check you guys out, the work you're doing.
00:52:11.000 Walk us through it, and how does it compare to the other reports?
00:52:14.000 How is it different?
00:52:16.000 What are you measuring the metrics?
00:52:18.000 Because this could get a little nerdy, you know, for people who don't necessarily follow it.
00:52:22.000 2024 report, what is it?
00:52:25.000 So we have a... MalCore is basically a malware analysis platform where we can put any phone app into it, and it spits out all the permissions, all the code severity warnings, all the things that are in the app and how it acts, basically.
00:52:39.000 So our...
00:52:41.000 Platform will give you a score based on the software development kits that is loaded in the app, the permissions the app requires from the phone, whether it's given or not, and also the code severity warnings.
00:52:53.000 So we just objectively score all the social media companies, all the big ones and the little ones.
00:52:59.000 And we basically print those scores.
00:53:01.000 We printed them in 2023.
00:53:03.000 Your FCC loved that report and the methodology.
00:53:06.000 And our 2020 report, 2024 report is now out.
00:53:10.000 TikTok had the highest score in 2023.
00:53:14.000 In 2024, to be honest, they've done a lot of great work trying to reduce their permissions, but they unfortunately still came out with the highest score.
00:53:23.000 A score of 60, double the industry average.
00:53:25.000 Okay, so let me ask this.
00:53:27.000 What makes TikTok, because we see that with the other apps, what makes TikTok More dangerous or more of a concern than the other apps out there.
00:53:34.000 Because you hear the argument from other people just saying, well, you know, this is just censorship because all of them do this.
00:53:39.000 But there's obviously a difference.
00:53:41.000 We see that metric.
00:53:42.000 People may not have context.
00:53:43.000 TikTok is a more significant threat.
00:53:46.000 Why?
00:53:48.000 So the biggest thing that happened in our 2022 report that basically really slammed the door was device mapping.
00:53:55.000 So in 2022, when we analyzed the app, TikTok could map a device.
00:53:59.000 So it basically was collecting all the running apps.
00:54:03.000 All the apps installed on your device.
00:54:05.000 So when you can basically pull all the contacts, access to calendar, and continually try to get access to the contacts when you had the app installed, and then it was able to map the phone.
00:54:16.000 It's basically like a phone imaging app on your device.
00:54:19.000 So that was the 2022 report that slammed the door.
00:54:23.000 And then in 2023, they had a significant number of software development kits compared to industry.
00:54:29.000 And so this is a third party company that has access to the metadata or the advertising data.
00:54:37.000 So software development kits is like an install plugin, basically, that you can have it.
00:54:43.000 If you make a random app and you can put Google and Facebook software development kits into your app, Facebook can actually get some of that advertising data.
00:54:51.000 So TikTok had the most.
00:54:52.000 They had every single software development kit, including VK Contact, which is a Russian owned Hold on a second.
00:55:08.000 Because this is something that maybe people don't know.
00:55:10.000 So they can map your whole phone.
00:55:11.000 Because people know, they go, well, yeah, cookies.
00:55:13.000 I accept cookies.
00:55:14.000 And so they follow me, let's say, in my browser to maybe advertise, like, I'm looking for swim trunks.
00:55:18.000 And then, ah, hey, what do you know?
00:55:19.000 Swim trunks.
00:55:20.000 You're seeing this phone mapping.
00:55:21.000 They can basically backdoor.
00:55:23.000 If I'm getting this correctly, Yeah, I wouldn't use the word backdoor.
00:55:27.000 everything in your phone, any running apps, your contacts, effectively they get a scan of your
00:55:32.000 personal information. Yeah, I wouldn't use the word backdoor, I'd use the word scan, basically,
00:55:37.000 on the phone. Yeah. And is this something... now again, this doesn't exist in a vacuum,
00:55:42.000 do all apps do that? Is that the norm? Well, it's a social media company,
00:55:49.000 and their job is to give funny videos and provide advertising data.
00:55:54.000 There's no reason for them to collect every single app that's running in your phone.
00:55:58.000 Right.
00:55:58.000 If they're providing high-quality cat videos.
00:56:02.000 Yes.
00:56:02.000 And look, two things can be true.
00:56:04.000 They provide high-quality cat videos, and also, you know, there's potential communist interference.
00:56:12.000 That begs the question, why would China care about the data of an 18-25 year old, that's their key demo, TikToker?
00:56:19.000 Why would they want to scan their entire phone?
00:56:25.000 Friends in the intelligence community have basically said to me that China is the biggest purchaser of commercial data in America.
00:56:34.000 So they are buying and collecting a significant number en masse of data of Americans.
00:56:40.000 We saw this in a project we did called the ZenY DataLeak, an entire Chinese company dedicated to tracking Americans and pulling as much social data as they can off them.
00:56:51.000 They are a huge data collector from our perspective.
00:56:55.000 And the reason why they want to collect it is, okay, you're a teenager.
00:57:00.000 You don't really care if TikTok has your data or what's going on in your phone,
00:57:05.000 but they can pull every single contact.
00:57:07.000 So they have basically a social map of every single contact in that phone.
00:57:13.000 So if they're collecting every single contact list of every single group of people
00:57:18.000 and they can export this data, then you might not be important,
00:57:23.000 but Stephen, I'm sure you talk to congressmen all the time.
00:57:27.000 Imagine getting their phone number.
00:57:29.000 Yeah Yeah, Miss Universe.
00:57:33.000 She's supposed to be private, right?
00:57:34.000 Well, no, Miss Universe, I have a few.
00:57:37.000 Mine was the runner-up.
00:57:38.000 But sometimes the runner-up is the better looking one than the winner.
00:57:41.000 And they're a little bit weirder.
00:57:45.000 So they have...
00:57:46.000 They have access to your contacts, and this is terrifying, your phone contacts, and just for people who are missing this, I know your report is available, ByteDance has direct ties to the CCP, right?
00:57:56.000 Like, there's a difference between someone in Silicon Valley, though it's a problem, having access to your purchasing preferences, and a company, and this is the reason for this bill right now, directly linked to the CCP, having access to all of your personal contacts.
00:58:10.000 People out there may say, oh, we don't really know that they're connected to the CCP.
00:58:14.000 Well, yes, right?
00:58:16.000 I mean, it's pretty simple, yes.
00:58:20.000 You've got an election coming up, and algorithms are everything.
00:58:23.000 So, all that data, great algorithms, you know, AI, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
00:58:30.000 Well, not only that, my thought is, right, you have a foreign, right, a foreign government who has access to this information, okay?
00:58:36.000 And then if they have a preference in an election, you have all these contacts.
00:58:39.000 When people talk about the Epstein list, think about the leverage.
00:58:42.000 And the blackmail.
00:58:43.000 I mean, just think of what happened with Anthony Weiner and the leverage that they tried to apply there, right?
00:58:47.000 That was a big deal.
00:58:48.000 Think about, obviously, Eric Swalwell, though he still has a job, I don't know why.
00:58:52.000 Right away, I don't just go to algorithms and tech, I go to a foreign party, a foreign government could select who they want to blackmail or apply leverage to if they have all of your personal contact information.
00:59:07.000 This actually brings up the ZenY data leak again.
00:59:09.000 There's evidence of Chinese companies actively with their entire business model building those types of databases.
00:59:16.000 Wow.
00:59:19.000 That is terrifying.
00:59:20.000 Captain Morgan, you had a question.
00:59:21.000 Yeah, so I was just curious.
00:59:22.000 When you said on the phone mapping, first, that's very shocking.
00:59:25.000 It takes a minute to get over that.
00:59:26.000 But second, as opposed to just having information to contacts, which is bad enough as it is, do they have access to text messages, any of the content of those text messages that are on your phone, any other data that might be there, emails, things like that?
00:59:42.000 To be honest, probably not.
00:59:43.000 They probably don't have access to text messages.
00:59:47.000 But if you are texting in the chat function of TikTok, probably.
00:59:52.000 Jeez.
00:59:53.000 Right.
00:59:55.000 What's the relationship between TikTok, and we've heard about this, Telegram, and like you just mentioned this, this sort of Russian FSB?
01:00:03.000 Ah, so Ukraine is having a massive argument about whether they should ban Telegram, just like you guys are talking about TikTok.
01:00:10.000 But I think you guys are way more successful in banning apps because only India and America really have had this type of debate and successfully pushed legislation through.
01:00:18.000 But Telegram is a massive Russian language app.
01:00:24.000 It is run by a guy called Pavel.
01:00:26.000 He lives in Dubai and he basically says that he basically created VK Contact and says he had to flee Russia because VK Contact was taken over by the Russian security services.
01:00:44.000 Ukraine are trying to ban Telegram because they think it's a threat to their population because Pavel originates from Russia and there's a lot of accusations there.
01:00:53.000 He says that VK contact was taken from him by the Russian security services and that's why he now lives in Dubai.
01:01:04.000 Yeah, wouldn't the counterargument maybe be because Telegram is, you know, encrypted and a lot of people have used it, right, for that reason, that they think it's more secure as opposed to, for example, a court just saying, all right, we're going to grab everything on your phone.
01:01:25.000 That maybe Ukraine would want to be banning Telegram because they would want to have more access to people's personal information as opposed to something encrypted.
01:01:33.000 Would there be a valid claim for pro-Telegram people to make?
01:01:39.000 It's not really the encryption, it's more most of Russian disinformation inside Ukraine occurs over Telegram.
01:01:47.000 It's more the information environment domain.
01:01:49.000 It's the same reason for TikTok.
01:01:51.000 There's no it's not about the encryption or whether they're collecting data in this sense.
01:01:54.000 It's there are huge amounts of influence occurring on populations from Authoritarian regimes.
01:02:03.000 And if they can control an app and influence your elections, influence your population, then it's an existential threat during these kind of very pressure situations like an election or a war for Ukraine's perspective.
01:02:15.000 So if you control the app, you control the algorithm, you control the disinformation.
01:02:19.000 So that's the kind of the essence of it.
01:02:21.000 There's no speech argument there from my perspective.
01:02:24.000 Well, I would say, you know, I would be concerned if the Ukrainian government is the only one determining, you know, what is disinformation or what is that then we get into what we had with the CDC and COVID a little bit.
01:02:34.000 So yeah, I would be I would be concerned.
01:02:37.000 I would I would be certainly I'd have to pause.
01:02:39.000 Well, hold on a second.
01:02:40.000 If we're just talking about information, well, the way you combat bad information is good information, unless, of course, Ukrainians are not allowed on TikTok outside of Russian propaganda.
01:02:48.000 So it's a little different from saying it's a national security threat because private information is going to a foreign entity.
01:02:55.000 But I understand the point to be made.
01:02:56.000 I did want to ask you a question because I heard a story about this.
01:02:59.000 Have you gotten any feedback or direct contact since this bill passed?
01:03:06.000 Uh, not since the bill passed, um, as in, like, in the last two days or in the last couple weeks.
01:03:12.000 Well, you know what?
01:03:13.000 Let's, since they were starting on it, let's say in the last few weeks.
01:03:17.000 Have you had any odd contact, David?
01:03:21.000 Like, it's a pretty private kind of war between TikTok and me, as it seems, and I can disclose to your audience that members paid by TikTok to write disinformation and crappy reports about my company Was hard copy mailed in the mail to shareholders of mine.
01:03:41.000 So people paid on the record by TikTok researchers, hard copy mailing stuff to my shareholders.
01:03:48.000 Wow.
01:03:49.000 You know, it was, it's unfortunate because it was just a bad report, poorly written, badly executed.
01:03:55.000 Like if it was high quality, then you'd have to respect the play.
01:03:58.000 Yes.
01:04:01.000 Wow.
01:04:01.000 All right, so can you stick around as we go to Mug Club here and take some questions from chat?
01:04:05.000 Because a lot of them have some questions for you, because I'm sure you can imagine with this report now being released, they have concerns.
01:04:13.000 Again, it's Malcor's 2024 report on TikTok.
01:04:16.000 This is the CEO of Malcor, David Robinson.
01:04:19.000 David, is there anything before we go to Mug Club where you want to direct people?
01:04:22.000 I know we have it up on our website, but if there's anything else?
01:04:25.000 Yeah, if you go to blog.malkor.io, the report is there live and you can log into Malkor for free and load up any app you want and have a look.
01:04:36.000 All right, well, great.
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