Louder with Crowder - Mark Rippetoe Talks Girly Men and Crossfit || Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 Why would anyone be listening in Germany?

00:00:02.000 Well, I don't know, Stephen.

00:00:04.000 That's your demographic problem. 0.89

00:00:06.000 Very glad to have this next guest on not what you're used to on Ladder with Crowder, shifting gears from politics a little bit, but a guy who I've read for a while.

00:00:16.000 You can pick up his book, actually, Starting Strength.

00:00:19.000 It's probably the single book that anyone who's looking to get strong and healthy should read.

00:00:24.000 StartingStrength.com.

00:00:25.000 Coach Mark Ripito, thank you for being on the show, sir.

00:00:29.000 Oh, gosh, Stephen.

00:00:31.000 Appreciate it, man.

00:00:32.000 Thank you for having me on.

00:00:34.000 What's that sigh for?

00:00:36.000 Right off the bat, you don't sound happy to be here.

00:00:38.000 Oh, I am happy to be here.

00:00:40.000 Of course I'm happy to be here.

00:00:42.000 I mean, we're fellow travelers, right?

00:00:45.000 I'm in strength.

00:00:46.000 You're into Planet Fitness.

00:00:51.000 I've got a barbell gym.

00:00:53.000 You go to Planet Fitness.

00:00:55.000 I know.

00:00:56.000 I tell you what, I didn't know it was as bad as it was until I went.

00:01:01.000 They don't have a squat rack.

00:01:03.000 No, no.

00:01:04.000 Stephen, look.

00:01:06.000 Planet Fitness is not about fitness.

00:01:09.000 That's just part of the name.

00:01:10.000 They're a sales organization.

00:01:12.000 And they're a very effective sales organization.

00:01:16.000 In fact, I'll tell you a story if you're up for it, if we want to segue back into your trolling situation you had with them earlier in the week.

00:01:25.000 A long time ago, when I first opened my gym in 1984, a friend of mine was running a promotion, a sales promotion, that really presaged the model that Planet Fitness uses right now.

00:01:41.000 They're primarily designed to Appeal to people that are not going to use the membership.

00:01:47.000 Right.

00:01:47.000 That's their whole deal.

00:01:48.000 Their sales model is sell cheap memberships to people who will not use a gym membership, but that are cheap enough that people will not stop the draft on.

00:01:59.000 That's the whole model.

00:02:01.000 Right.

00:02:01.000 And we had a deal.

00:02:03.000 It was drawing kind of a lead box based promotion.

00:02:07.000 Back a long time ago that said that you want a free membership to the Wichita Falls Athletic Club as a consolation prize and somebody's going to win a vacation to Hawaii.

00:02:17.000 All you have to do to claim this free membership to the gym is to come in and pay the maintenance fees of $96, which was something like $53 a year.

00:02:28.000 No, $46.

00:02:29.000 I can't do the math.

00:02:31.000 But it was $96 for two years worth.

00:02:34.000 And you had a two-year membership for $96.

00:02:36.000 Now, people that are regular gym members don't put their name in lead boxes anyway.

00:02:45.000 So the thing generated quite a bit of cash up front, and it generated a grand total of about five people that used that membership for the next two years.

00:02:56.000 Wow.

00:02:57.000 Out of the hundreds of people that signed up for this thing, five of them.

00:03:01.000 I'll tell you what, though.

00:03:02.000 I've been a member of some of those gyms that aren't quite Planet Fitness, but they have a few squat racks, and their goal is to get as many to sign up with cheap rates.

00:03:10.000 And sometimes you do join up, and you know how to use it properly, and you're the only person in the gym, and it's great.

00:03:15.000 There was a gym actually in Texas that I went to, which actually, funnily that you talk about it.

00:03:19.000 And that's why I wanted to bring you on, too.

00:03:20.000 A lot of people don't realize this.

00:03:22.000 I mean, you're more libertarian.

00:03:23.000 I'm libertarian conservative.

00:03:25.000 What bothers me about the fitness industry is the scamming.

00:03:29.000 I mean, for example, I have my wife right now, and she cannot find a trainer who will get her doing the right things.

00:03:35.000 And won't listen to me.

00:03:39.000 What was that?

00:03:40.000 I hear you muttering angrily.

00:03:42.000 It's a problem within this industry.

00:03:45.000 This industry is such that You walk in to a fitness industry gym, and the kid's got a shirt on that says trainer.

00:03:55.000 Right.

00:03:56.000 How does a layperson know the difference between him and me?

00:04:01.000 By your sweet pecs?

00:04:04.000 There's not any way to tell.

00:04:05.000 Oh, jeez.

00:04:07.000 Don't do that again.

00:04:09.000 There's not any way for a layperson to tell, and it's a problem.

00:04:13.000 It really is.

00:04:14.000 Yeah, well, and that being said, my first gym ever, I've talked about this on air, was Energy Cardio.

00:04:19.000 It was the only gym around Montreal where I was on the South Shore that would allow my parents to sign off.

00:04:23.000 I was 13.

00:04:24.000 I was a fat little kid, and it was the only gym that would allow my parents to sign off on me going without them being present.

00:04:31.000 And they didn't have a squat rack.

00:04:34.000 They had all the other freeways, so their dumbbells did go up, to their credit, to 110 pounds.

00:04:39.000 So I was allowed to do deadlifts, and I did those.

00:04:42.000 I wasn't really able to squat for the first few years, which obviously you're a big proponent of that.

00:04:45.000 But I remember that, and it wasn't the best gym, but it was better than nothing.

00:04:49.000 In our school, in Canadian schools, there were no athletic programs.

00:04:52.000 We didn't have any serious free weights, so it wasn't like American kids have it. 0.99

00:04:56.000 And that started me on my journey, and then the really serious games came actually.

00:05:00.000 It wasn't your program, but very similar, Bill Starr's.

00:05:03.000 Five times five.

00:05:05.000 It changed my life.

00:05:07.000 I think a lot of people out there don't realize we talked about this with Brett McKay.

00:05:10.000 The strenuous life.

00:05:12.000 Challenging yourself every day to better yourself as a man, as a woman, as a person is very important.

00:05:18.000 That's where you talk about progressive overloading with training is a great example of that.

00:05:23.000 If you do it, you'll get better and you'll become stronger.

00:05:29.000 I think it's very important to For any human being to know where their limits are.

00:05:35.000 Yes.

00:05:37.000 Because if you don't know where the limits are, then you have no idea what you can, in fact, do.

00:05:43.000 And the only way to know where your limits are is to exceed them occasionally.

00:05:48.000 Right.

00:05:49.000 And it takes a lot of effort.

00:05:52.000 Most people aren't willing to do it.

00:05:55.000 No, and it's a lot easier.

00:05:56.000 Like you talk about the fitness industry, you know, my wife has never done a squat. 1.00

00:05:59.000 And the fact is, I'll tell you this.

00:06:01.000 This is a true story.

00:06:02.000 It just happened yesterday.

00:06:03.000 She went in with a personal trainer. 1.00

00:06:05.000 I handed them your book.

00:06:07.000 I said, I want her doing this.

00:06:08.000 I'm paying for a glorified babysitter. 1.00

00:06:09.000 She won't listen to me.

00:06:11.000 And they never do any of it.

00:06:15.000 There's a saying amongst these strength coaches.

00:06:19.000 You can't coach...

00:06:23.000 Your wife.

00:06:24.000 No.

00:06:25.000 Okay.

00:06:25.000 Well, that's a pretty simple thing.

00:06:27.000 You cannot...

00:06:29.000 That doesn't work.

00:06:30.000 It just doesn't work.

00:06:31.000 Well, I will tell you this.

00:06:33.000 So that happened, and they had her doing everything except squatting. 0.79

00:06:36.000 We have to go to the break, so I'll finish this and let you take the rage when we come back. 0.99

00:06:39.000 But...

00:06:40.000 She's tall, she's six foot, and she's slim, and she's gorgeous. 0.92

00:06:43.000 She modeled for a long time.

00:06:45.000 That's nature.

00:06:46.000 And the first thing the trainer asked, he said, listen, I'll give you a discount if you let me put you on my blog as an after picture.

00:06:53.000 Taking credit for God's work.

00:06:56.000 We will be right back with Coach Mark Ripoteau.

00:07:01.000 Stay tuned.

00:07:02.000 Very excited back with the one and only Coach Mark Ripoteau.

00:07:05.000 I told you that story before the break.

00:07:07.000 And isn't that the truth?

00:07:08.000 And people come in and say, hey, can you make me look like Mrs.

00:07:11.000 Crowder?

00:07:12.000 And it's just the way she was born.

00:07:14.000 You can't.

00:07:15.000 Right.

00:07:15.000 Well, that's an interesting topic.

00:07:19.000 And I think you have stumbled onto...

00:07:23.000 One of the problems with the strength and conditioning business in general.

00:07:29.000 The strength and conditioning business nowadays is largely...

00:07:33.000 This is a deceptive mess.

00:07:41.000 Extremely talented athletes are extremely talented athletes because they were born that way.

00:07:47.000 And in terms of their athletic talent...

00:07:51.000 All of the skipping around in the floor and balanced drills and high-level D1 college-looking activities that are designed to hone the abilities of very, very talented athletes are a complete, absolute waste of time.

00:08:08.000 Extremely talented athletes aren't made any better by these types of...

00:08:14.000 Just look around at D1 college programs.

00:08:17.000 They're not made any better by these exercises.

00:08:20.000 And activities that are designed to display talent.

00:08:24.000 They are displaying talent that's already there.

00:08:27.000 They aren't developing anything.

00:08:30.000 And, you know, the model is that strength and conditioning coaches, strength and conditioning coaches, am I saying that right?

00:08:39.000 Strength and conditioning coaches are primarily designed, they primarily designed their activity and time In the gym around activities that are designed to display the talent of the athlete, which in the model of the industry is designed to display the talent of the coach.

00:09:02.000 It doesn't.

00:09:03.000 It just, you know.

00:09:04.000 Like CrossFit.

00:09:05.000 A lot of those things now where it started, I know you worked with it, but I have guys come and go, look, I can do a single leg overhead barbell squat on top of a kettlebell.

00:09:16.000 I say, why?

00:09:18.000 Why?

00:09:19.000 Well, it's good.

00:09:21.000 It's good that you can do that.

00:09:22.000 You're talented enough to do that.

00:09:24.000 That's wonderful.

00:09:25.000 But now, the question becomes, as a strength and conditioning coach, what do I do to make you better?

00:09:32.000 Have you do the other leg?

00:09:35.000 You just displayed to me a fantastic talent for balance.

00:09:40.000 You know, D1 programs primarily recruit on the basis of...

00:09:47.000 A suite of activities that are centered around measuring vertical jump because these indicate the set of explosive athletic genetics that you're looking for.

00:09:59.000 You take a guy with a 36 inch vertical, he's going to make any coach look pretty good because he's a good athlete.

00:10:06.000 Whether the coach does anything for him or not, Is largely irrelevant because he already looks good because that's why you recruited him.

00:10:14.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:10:15.000 Before we get off into, you have to understand, a lot of people listening aren't that far along the trail.

00:10:19.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:10:22.000 What would be your advice to someone who's not elite?

00:10:26.000 Get stronger.

00:10:27.000 Even if you are elite, the one thing that you can always control is to get stronger.

00:10:33.000 Anybody can get stronger.

00:10:35.000 Unless you're a strength specialist, anybody can get stronger.

00:10:39.000 For anyone, old person that doesn't do athletics, young 18-year-old kid looking to go to college and play sports, the most important thing they can do is the thing that they can make the most difference doing, and that is a strength program.

00:10:55.000 And you know what?

00:10:55.000 Right.

00:10:56.000 I will say this.

00:10:57.000 Brazilian jiu-jitsu, grappling, which is, I guess, sort of my sport.

00:11:01.000 I mean, if you're not in a pro sport, you're not in college.

00:11:03.000 You either have to pick something.

00:11:05.000 My dad's more accomplished in the competitive realm.

00:11:07.000 A lot of them just don't get stronger.

00:11:09.000 I'm going to work on technique.

00:11:10.000 And that obviously is important.

00:11:11.000 And we've talked about this off-air.

00:11:13.000 There is a point of diminishing returns.

00:11:15.000 And as someone who's strength trained my whole life, I know where that is.

00:11:18.000 Where I go, okay, now it's time to maintain this because 10 more pounds on this barbell... 1.00

00:11:22.000 At the end of the year is not going to be time best served compared to spending time on my sport.

00:11:27.000 But getting to that baseline is so important.

00:11:31.000 People have an extremely skewed perspective about where that baseline is.

00:11:41.000 Sure.

00:11:42.000 A guy like you, you're 27, 6'2", 205.

00:11:49.000 No, I'm 6'2", 220.

00:11:51.000 6'2", 220.

00:11:54.000 Steven, you ought to be squatting, you know, 475 or 75.

00:12:01.000 And the fact that you're not indicates to me that you're not at baseline.

00:12:07.000 See what I mean?

00:12:09.000 Yeah, and that's impressive.

00:12:12.000 You don't have the appreciation for what the baseline actually is.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, but I will say this, Mark, and I do, I love your book, and I recommend it actually to my producer here, to everyone who's starting strength.

00:12:21.000 You give me crap for the unilateral work that I did earlier, but you have to understand, I did have two severely herniated discs.

00:12:27.000 I lost all actual motor function in my legs.

00:12:30.000 They were pricking me with pins.

00:12:31.000 So there was a time where I had to focus on maximal loading that I could with minimal spinal compression.

00:12:36.000 And that was where I found a system that worked for me to maintain strength and actually increase flexibility, mobility, to the point where I felt like I could get back to barbells.

00:12:46.000 Now, I will say this.

00:12:48.000 Did you ever get back to barbells?

00:12:51.000 Right now I am, yeah.

00:12:53.000 What are you deadlifting now?

00:12:55.000 Well, yeah, I don't deadlift.

00:12:56.000 I do squats and benches and overhead press.

00:12:56.000 I don't deadlift right now.

00:12:59.000 I mean, you know, I have a torn rotator.

00:13:00.000 I told you that before I tore my rotator.

00:13:02.000 I have a torn rotator.

00:13:03.000 I did 23 pull-ups.

00:13:05.000 Did you?

00:13:06.000 At 220.

00:13:07.000 I did 18 pull-ups at a fat man's body weight.

00:13:11.000 Okay, I don't want to get into this competition because here's a fact.

00:13:13.000 I said in my 54-year-old father, and he would be the least efficient at lifting barbells, and he would choke everyone in your gym out.

00:13:20.000 And that's the skill set that's most important to me, is combat.

00:13:23.000 I understand that, but what I'm saying to you, that a guy with extremely high skill lift, extremely high skill lift, that doubles his squat, All of a sudden he got better without improving his skills.

00:13:41.000 But let me say this.

00:13:41.000 I agree.

00:13:42.000 I agree completely.

00:13:44.000 My whole point.

00:13:45.000 But if you look at heavyweight champions right now, like Boucher, people like that, there is a point.

00:13:45.000 I agree completely.

00:13:50.000 And I don't know that you've ever tried to gain strength while doing grappling or wrestling six, seven sessions a week.

00:13:58.000 It is very, very difficult to do.

00:14:00.000 It's very catabolic.

00:14:02.000 It's very hard.

00:14:03.000 If I do grappling, even when I tone down the strength train to three times a week...

00:14:08.000 It is very hard for me to get above 205.

00:14:11.000 What I'm suggesting is that it might be to your advantage to maybe get stronger, which takes twice a week.

00:14:26.000 Work those two strength training sessions in so that your strength would progress.

00:14:32.000 And that total benefit obtained by doing that It might very well make up for the loss of time on the mat.

00:14:42.000 Oh, and that's what I'm doing right now because I can't spend time on the mat.

00:14:45.000 To give you an idea, that's a great example with your program.

00:14:49.000 Obviously, there's only so much recovery you have.

00:14:52.000 So when I was doing your program and lifting pretty heavy right now and just did some drilling and mitt work was incredibly sore.

00:15:01.000 It was very difficult to recover from both activities, and that's why I've put that on hold, because of the injuries.

00:15:06.000 But I do, I advocate your program or something similar, generally your program exactly, for everyone I know who's starting lifting.

00:15:13.000 We're actually getting this gentleman here who's, we won't bring him in, but my producer, Jared, who is 145 pounds and needs to start lifting heavy.

00:15:21.000 But I do want to get into sort of the macro issue here.

00:15:22.000 I'm writing a column right now, and you can tell me if you agree or disagree.

00:15:25.000 I believe that we've reached a point in the Planet Fitness thing, it wasn't about the transgender deal or the cross-dressing.

00:15:30.000 It was about, I truly believe, and you talk about this with weightlifting, and I think in every aspect of life, you have to look at yourself, correct yourself, and at the end of the day, you have to look yourself in the mirror and say, did I do everything I could do to get better?

00:15:44.000 Have I done everything I can to prepare for whatever your job may be?

00:15:47.000 If so, yes, let's get to work.

00:15:48.000 But now, if I were raised in modern, politically correct liberal America, I believe I would be fat, weak, and feel good about myself.

00:15:58.000 Sure.

00:15:58.000 Because we've gotten to a point, and I will say this flat out, liberalism creates fat, weak, young men who feel good about being, not just, I'm not talking about physically, in character.

00:16:09.000 And if you look at people like Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, that's, I use this term, the strenuous life.

00:16:13.000 They talked about every day pushing yourself a little bit.

00:16:16.000 Do you have a lot of people who come in, or young men, who just don't have that sensibility of, hey, this is going to be hard, and that's what's beautiful in it?

00:16:27.000 I don't know that most people that start this program think in those terms.

00:16:33.000 I think that they come in understanding that this is what they need, but they haven't couched it in terms of They're placed on the political spectrum.

00:16:52.000 You and I can be philosophical about this, and we didn't, because we've got time to do that.

00:17:00.000 But a kid that's, you know, working full-time at Sonic Drive-In, he's 19 years old, he's underweight, he knows he needs to be bigger, he doesn't think about it in those terms.

00:17:09.000 He just knows that everything he's tried before hasn't worked.

00:17:13.000 And he knows that he's heard that what we can do can help him, so he comes in.

00:17:19.000 But stepping back from the immediate nature of such a thing, I agree with your bigger point.

00:17:28.000 I agree with your point that the pressure now is to be accepting of complacency, because complacency is easier, and complacency Is the kind of thing that enables people to feel good about themselves when somebody else tells them that that's really all you need to do.

00:17:54.000 Why push hard?

00:17:55.000 Why test your own limits?

00:18:02.000 We're here to make those limits nice and low.

00:18:06.000 We're here to make you comfortable.

00:18:08.000 And comfort is the most important thing you can be and satisfied with yourself and high self-esteem and all that other stuff.

00:18:19.000 This is kind of an odd time.

00:18:25.000 The history of the human race, I think.

00:18:30.000 For those of you listening terrestrially, Mark has the most disgusted look on his face that I can imagine.

00:18:36.000 This is an odd, odd time.

00:18:39.000 It really is.

00:18:40.000 We've got, on the one hand, a society where PSAs on the radio are telling us one in four people are struggling with hunger.

00:18:55.000 Those of you listening on terrestrial radio have heard this PSA on the station today.

00:19:03.000 I'm one of one in four.

00:19:03.000 One in four.

00:19:05.000 I'm the person that rides up the elevator with you.

00:19:07.000 And I'm struggling with hunger.

00:19:09.000 Yet, what's the obesity rate in the United States?

00:19:12.000 Right.

00:19:13.000 Well, you guys, make up your mind, all right?

00:19:16.000 We can't have it both ways.

00:19:19.000 And the...

00:19:21.000 The politically expedient nature of both of these messages, the fact that they conflict with each other, doesn't seem to bother anybody.

00:19:27.000 And it's just real strange.

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 It's also funny to me, you know, you have Michelle Obama who declared it a national crisis, right?

00:19:34.000 A bigger threat than global terrorism.

00:19:36.000 No, the obesity thing.

00:19:38.000 But I always think...

00:19:39.000 She needs to listen to more radio.

00:19:43.000 Because if she did, she'd understand that one in four is struggling.

00:19:49.000 Sure.

00:19:49.000 Well, I don't think she's struggling with hunger, and that wasn't what I was implying, but I guess I just said it now.

00:19:53.000 We'll be right back with Coach Mark Ripto after this break, where we'll see how much more inappropriate we can get.

00:20:00.000 Back in this next hour, we went through the hour, and now we're still back with Coach Mark Ripto.

00:20:06.000 Before this, we were talking about hunger versus obesity in this country, and that's a good point.

00:20:10.000 I talk about that, though, too.

00:20:12.000 If obesity is our biggest epidemic, as some leftists say, I go, I mean, if you had to pick your problem out of a pile, wouldn't that be the one you would first pick, a problem of overabundance and choice?

00:20:24.000 I can't imagine a better problem to have.

00:20:27.000 Ah, the perils of capitalists.

00:20:29.000 Overabundance.

00:20:30.000 Yes.

00:20:31.000 As opposed to the manufactured nonsense of struggling with hunger.

00:20:36.000 Right.

00:20:37.000 This is...

00:20:39.000 As I said, this is an interesting time in the history of the human race.

00:20:45.000 We've got a giant dichotomy, and I know this is what bothers leftists.

00:20:52.000 We have a huge segment of the world's population that don't get enough to eat.

00:20:57.000 And then again, here we are in the United States, where you can walk into a grocery store, you can walk into Walmart and buy pre-made pancakes.

00:21:08.000 Wait, the pancakes are already made or do you mean the mix?

00:21:10.000 I can understand that the dichotomy bothers people, okay?

00:21:14.000 But my position is that the dichotomy is not my problem.

00:21:20.000 The dichotomy is the problem of the third world who refuses to embrace the idea that private property and free market capitalism provides for pre-made pancakes. 0.92

00:21:34.000 Yeah.

00:21:36.000 I mean, I'm using this as a metaphor for the whole thing.

00:21:40.000 But I don't know if you really want to get me started.

00:21:43.000 No, I don't think I do.

00:21:44.000 I don't think I do.

00:21:46.000 I know.

00:21:47.000 Talk about this for quite a while.

00:21:49.000 No, I agree with you.

00:21:50.000 Well, I mean, listen, they don't have the problem of obesity.

00:21:53.000 You know, try getting some Zambian famine victims head around it.

00:21:56.000 They won't even be able to comprehend that your problem is you have too much to eat.

00:21:59.000 Try to find a dose of anorexia nervosa in Zambia.

00:22:05.000 I'd look for it.

00:22:07.000 I also don't think you have a lot of bodybuilders oiled and tanned bitching about their calves. 1.00

00:22:13.000 Probably not the body dysmorphia on either side.

00:22:18.000 So we get back to, you know, you talk about getting stronger.

00:22:21.000 Let me ask you this.

00:22:21.000 Okay.

00:22:22.000 To go back to strength training, How do you handle it?

00:22:26.000 I've gotten to a point in my life where I am just so tired with the BS. And I feel like it's everywhere.

00:22:32.000 And it's no more prevalent than in the supplement industry and the fitness industry.

00:22:39.000 Planet Fitness is an example.

00:22:40.000 But it's, I mean, literally, I cannot find one decent personal trainer to whom I can take my wife.

00:22:49.000 And we are just literally...

00:22:50.000 If you're looking at Planet Fitness for a decent personal trainer, You seem to have some serious misconceptions about this.

00:22:58.000 No, not Planet Fitness.

00:22:59.000 Like I told you, the vast majority, Planet Fitness is on the extreme end of this continuum.

00:23:08.000 You've got the standard industry model gyms, which are basically sales organizations, and then you've got on the far other end of the spectrum, places like Wichita Paul's Athletic Club, out the door here, that It has a sign on the door that says, Wichita Falls Athletic Club is a private strength training facility.

00:23:29.000 Membership is by invitation only.

00:23:32.000 We turn people away here that don't sufficiently appreciate what it is we're trying to do.

00:23:41.000 Okay, well let me real quick, because people are going to attack you.

00:23:43.000 In the middle is, you know, there is the functional training expression of the Right in the middle is really where more trainers ought to be and they're not.

00:24:02.000 Right.

00:24:03.000 In a position that serve a larger percentage of the population.

00:24:07.000 Sure.

00:24:08.000 Now, let me ask you this, because people will say, you turn people away.

00:24:11.000 See, that's why Planet Fitness exists. 1.00

00:24:12.000 You just want to judge fat people.

00:24:14.000 Now, I know that you have some old ladies who train at your gym. 1.00

00:24:17.000 It's not about where you are.

00:24:18.000 It's about how serious you are with self-improvement, right?

00:24:22.000 Yes.

00:24:23.000 It's about whether you came into the gym for...

00:24:29.000 The fact that we have a logical, arithmetical model for making you stronger.

00:24:34.000 Start where you are now, go up a little bit every time, right?

00:24:37.000 Or if you came in for pizza night.

00:24:41.000 If you came in for pizza night, yeah, we're going to probably draw a conclusion based on that.

00:24:49.000 Is that judgment?

00:24:50.000 Well, I guess, you know, whatever you want.

00:24:51.000 That's just semantics, okay?

00:24:54.000 But no, my 91-year-old gal that trains in here. 1.00

00:24:59.000 We'll be in here tomorrow about noon, thanks.

00:25:03.000 Is capable of doing an unassisted bodyweight squat below parallel.

00:25:10.000 Wow, good for her. 0.99

00:25:11.000 And that's been a long process, but we've gotten her to the point where she hasn't fallen down in a year.

00:25:18.000 She doesn't use her walker anymore.

00:25:20.000 That's been in her closet for about 10 months.

00:25:23.000 And the same process that we use for Sure.

00:25:33.000 I see that and people see the planet fitness thing and say no judgment because we don't want to be mean.

00:25:33.000 Sure.

00:25:37.000 I hear that story that you just tell me.

00:25:40.000 And I think how mean are you other personal trainers to rob this woman of that experience of the opportunity to put her Walker in the closet at the age of 91.

00:25:53.000 Good for her.

00:25:55.000 Are there any pictures online or videos?

00:25:57.000 Yeah, we've got a little video online of, Just look up Gus, G-U-S, Mrs. 0.75

00:26:04.000 Virginia Gustafson-Razon.

00:26:07.000 Look up Gus, W-F-A-C, and there'll be a nice little video that comes up.

00:26:11.000 91 years old.

00:26:12.000 Geez, well, that just goes to show people listening.

00:26:15.000 The same process that you, Steven Crowder, need to be doing.

00:26:20.000 I am doing it right now.

00:26:21.000 Oh, nice.

00:26:22.000 Look, all right, let me ask you a question.

00:26:24.000 I often come coach you.

00:26:27.000 And you've said...

00:26:28.000 You've never offered to come coach me.

00:26:30.000 Okay, no, no, hold on a second.

00:26:31.000 Don't make me mute your mic.

00:26:34.000 Don't make me mute your microphone.

00:26:36.000 Because you just asked me if I did deadlifts on air.

00:26:38.000 When you were the one who specified, you said, oh, you got a torn rotator cuff?

00:26:40.000 Yeah, good mornings are good.

00:26:41.000 You should do those.

00:26:42.000 You don't need to be deadlifting or doing power cleans.

00:26:44.000 No, I didn't say anything about good mornings.

00:26:46.000 Look, I had this shoulder rotator cuff repair.

00:26:49.000 And you know what I did?

00:26:51.000 Three weeks post-op, I deadlifted 315.

00:26:55.000 Because...

00:26:56.000 Dead lefts don't bother a torn rotator.

00:26:59.000 Well, they do mine.

00:27:00.000 Well, maybe that's not what you've got.

00:27:02.000 Well, maybe it's not what I've got.

00:27:04.000 It's a diagnosis.

00:27:04.000 But everyone listening, I'm following his protocol.

00:27:07.000 I called him with questions.

00:27:08.000 He said, yeah, that actually seems good if you can do it and it's not irritating your back.

00:27:11.000 Those are good replacements.

00:27:12.000 And then he comes on here and tries to throw me under the bus.

00:27:14.000 So, I'll tell you what.

00:27:15.000 I will say this.

00:27:16.000 I don't remember saying I told you, Steve.

00:27:18.000 Well, you certainly didn't offer to come out and train me.

00:27:20.000 You were asking me about the Cherry Festival.

00:27:22.000 Hey, right now, I'm telling you on air, I'll come train you.

00:27:26.000 Okay.

00:27:27.000 Okay.

00:27:28.000 You come out here, I will be glad to...

00:27:30.000 And you can train my wife.

00:27:32.000 Yeah.

00:27:33.000 And you can...

00:27:34.000 I start with her.

00:27:39.000 Okay.

00:27:40.000 I start with her.

00:27:41.000 Put her up on starting strength and say, look at my handiwork.

00:27:45.000 Oh, God.

00:27:46.000 Yeah, she's way out of my league. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Okay.

00:27:50.000 There was something else I was going to ask you.

00:27:52.000 I don't even remember what it was now that we got off the beaten path.

00:27:55.000 I was going to say this.

00:27:56.000 Do you talk about strength training?

00:27:56.000 Okay.

00:27:58.000 If I may sort of parlay that into something, I don't know if you've ever been on the grappling mats, but I would invite you to go on there once because everyone should get their ass kicked once.

00:28:10.000 I've got my ass kicked way harder than one.

00:28:10.000 It's good for your soul.

00:28:10.000 Absolutely.

00:28:13.000 It's good to realize how a Marcelo Garcia-looking character, who you would see in the gym and see as weak, can feel so strong and absolutely end your life at any time they want to, just to realize that strength is important, but it does not make a complete human.

00:28:27.000 No, no.

00:28:27.000 I'll tell you what is even more important than strength.

00:28:31.000 Youth.

00:28:33.000 I don't know.

00:28:34.000 Guys like you, enjoy it while you've got it.

00:28:37.000 Once you accumulate all the injuries I've got, You know, at one time, I was about, you know, halfway tough.

00:28:45.000 Now I'm just old.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, I'll tell you what, though.

00:28:47.000 We've had guys who came in who were halfway tough.

00:28:50.000 We've had division, we've had pro football players come in and just get their, just the life choked out of them.

00:28:56.000 There's nothing they can do about it.

00:28:57.000 Not everybody can do everybody else's sport.

00:28:59.000 This is true.

00:29:00.000 Thank God I don't have to deal with that.

00:29:01.000 I just deal with the thing that makes everybody's sport better, and that's getting strong.

00:29:06.000 That's getting strong.

00:29:07.000 That is absolutely true.

00:29:09.000 And on that, we completely agree.

00:29:10.000 And it has to be done with, certainly, heavy weights for people who are starting with measurable loading increase.

00:29:17.000 This is the process.

00:29:19.000 I thought...

00:29:19.000 Really?

00:29:20.000 And five pounds of workout.

00:29:23.000 That's the process.

00:29:24.000 I thought I could just go CrossFit and go ape crap crazy with a barbell and train for randomness.

00:29:31.000 You're blowing my mind.

00:29:32.000 Do things in random.

00:29:35.000 Now, that doesn't seem to work.

00:29:37.000 In other words, you can't learn to play the piano by a combination of attempting to play the saxophone, the guitar, and digging a hole in the backyard.

00:29:50.000 What age do you cross over into the nonsensical?

00:29:55.000 I'm kidding.

00:29:56.000 About 50.

00:29:58.000 Okay.

00:29:59.000 All right.

00:30:00.000 Well, we have to get going.

00:30:02.000 And maybe we'll keep you on for another online segment.

00:30:05.000 But for Terrestrial, we must say goodbye.

00:30:07.000 Where can people best find you, Mark?

00:30:10.000 Startingstrength.com is my website.

00:30:12.000 I'm there way too much of the day.

00:30:15.000 So feel free to post.

00:30:17.000 Feel free to contact me through that website or books.

00:30:21.000 And...

00:30:22.000 DVDs are for sale on that website.

00:30:25.000 We're also available on Amazon.com.

00:30:28.000 Our German translation is available on Amazon.de.

00:30:33.000 You don't need to say.com.

00:30:35.000 You're going to throw the HTTP in there?

00:30:37.000 The German translation is at Amazon.de.

00:30:43.000 If they're in Germany, I'm sure it reroutes them. 1.00

00:30:46.000 Why would anyone be listening in Germany?

00:30:48.000 Well, I don't know, Stephen.

00:30:50.000 That's your demographic problem. 0.89

00:30:53.000 Once you get big enough.

00:30:55.000 Mark Ripito, startingstrength.com.

00:30:58.000 Whether you're 91 years old or 19, I highly recommend it.

00:31:01.000 Mark, thanks for being with us, brother.

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Louder with Crowder - March 27, 2015

Mark Rippetoe Talks Girly Men and Crossfit || Louder With Crowder

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