Louder with Crowder - May 20, 2026


Massie Goes Down: But Who Did It?


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1 hour and 4 minutes

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173.22249

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11,118

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1,069

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Misogyny

31

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Toxicity

69

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Hate speech

64

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00:00:06.000 Gonna find another girl like her in a million years.
00:00:09.000 It's all so magical.
00:00:14.000 I've never a fun party ride that fears someday a boo.
00:00:20.000 Do you trust me?
00:00:22.000 Say to me, have my life wonderful.
00:00:26.000 Time of my life, you should say, love.
00:00:35.000 Father, and to say, boo.
00:00:39.000 Say to me, I'm a wonderful person.
00:00:39.000 Boo.
00:00:41.000 You should say, I'm a father.
00:00:53.000 You should, you should.
00:00:56.000 I ran away.
00:00:58.000 And I am not going back.
00:01:01.000 Let's make some magic!
00:01:18.000 Give up! 1.00
00:01:37.000 There's this girl.
00:01:40.000 I've never been fun.
00:01:42.000 That says, Someday, a boo.
00:01:45.000 There's no time in my life without you.
00:01:48.000 I've never been fun.
00:06:35.000 Premium enjoying now for $99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad-free experience and an ever-expanding roster of content, creators, and free speech.
00:07:22.000 Good morning.
00:07:22.000 Hello.
00:07:23.000 You get no sip.
00:07:24.000 But it's not because I don't like you.
00:07:25.000 It's because if I do it, I feel like I'm going to choke inadvertently and then have to cough for the.
00:07:29.000 Come on.
00:07:30.000 Admonish.
00:07:31.000 No, you deserve this.
00:07:33.000 I had to for.
00:07:34.000 I don't.
00:07:35.000 No, listen.
00:07:36.000 There's about this entire story that's about to be spun.
00:07:39.000 This narrative is fake news.
00:07:41.000 Josh will tell it whenever he decides to.
00:07:43.000 This is not fake news.
00:07:44.000 No, this is what.
00:07:45.000 Every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie.
00:07:47.000 No, it's all facts.
00:07:49.000 First of all, Gerald was over there kissing on a guy in the corner.
00:07:52.000 That's not true.
00:07:54.000 Yeah, no.
00:07:54.000 No, what really happened was we were all joking around about something, and the Washington Wizards, and they were saying, you know, what is the season ticket holder called?
00:08:03.000 And Lane was like, oh, season ticket holders, they're called Grand Wizards.
00:08:06.000 And we all laughed.
00:08:07.000 And then Gerald looked up as if he had an original thought.
00:08:09.000 And he was like, oh, does that mean like the season ticket holders are referred to as Grand Wizards?
00:08:15.000 And we were all quiet.
00:08:16.000 And Gerald was like, well, that was a pretty good joke.
00:08:17.000 Why is nobody laughing?
00:08:18.000 And then we were like, yeah, Lane goes, I just said that.
00:08:21.000 I literally heard the last half of what Lane said and not the first half.
00:08:24.000 Yeah, I heard like the season ticket holders, and I missed it.
00:08:27.000 And then we all had a good laugh.
00:08:27.000 Completely.
00:08:28.000 And we laughed about how Gerald takes somebody else's idea and then passes it off as his own.
00:08:32.000 And then I said, We're going to have to start calling you Timon.
00:08:35.000 And he was like, Timon.
00:08:37.000 And I go, From Timon and Pumbaa?
00:08:39.000 And he goes, Simone.
00:08:42.000 Dead pan.
00:08:43.000 And I go, No.
00:08:45.000 He goes, Yeah, it's Simone.
00:08:45.000 What's Simone?
00:08:46.000 And then Lane's like, Simone and Pumbaa?
00:08:52.000 What's the king's name?
00:08:53.000 Timba?
00:08:54.000 Fake.
00:08:57.000 I can't do it.
00:08:58.000 I can't do it.
00:08:58.000 All right.
00:08:59.000 Do you deserve this one?
00:09:00.000 This will be a fantastic show, guys.
00:09:02.000 I promise you.
00:09:03.000 What a great start.
00:09:03.000 I'll be in top form.
00:09:06.000 So let me give you the rundown really quickly.
00:09:07.000 We're going to talk about the Winter Soldier.
00:09:09.000 And I say that because nobody knows the actor's name, but the actor most famous for playing the not Captain America character, he hates Donald Trump apparently, and it's a big deal.
00:09:17.000 Thomas Massey lost, primaried out.
00:09:21.000 You have a lot of maybe mixed emotions about that.
00:09:23.000 We'll talk about some of the things we agree with from Thomas Massey and some of the things we don't.
00:09:28.000 And what really is to blame.
00:09:30.000 And then also, I don't know if you've seen this yet, but the mosque shooter, the manifesto has come out.
00:09:37.000 And we've found a lot of it to be incredibly troubling, obviously, and absolutely crazy.
00:09:44.000 So we're going to get into that a little bit.
00:09:46.000 But before we do all of that, in my chair today, Lane the Brain, how are you, sir?
00:09:51.000 Good.
00:09:52.000 Yeah, better.
00:09:52.000 Good?
00:09:53.000 Now that you got credit for your original work of Grand Wizard.
00:09:56.000 Trying to follow trademarks on every statement that I make.
00:09:58.000 Okay, yeah, make sure you do that.
00:10:00.000 It was very fun, very casual.
00:10:01.000 You really.
00:10:02.000 It was, we all laughed.
00:10:03.000 It was banter.
00:10:04.000 It was a thing.
00:10:04.000 I appreciate that.
00:10:06.000 It was authentic.
00:10:06.000 It was a question on the comedy team.
00:10:08.000 Thanks.
00:10:08.000 I appreciate that.
00:10:09.000 And obviously, Josh Feierstein in the other chair.
00:10:11.000 Whatever.
00:10:12.000 Anyway, moving on.
00:10:15.000 No.
00:10:16.000 Saturday, May 30th at the Roxy Theater in Muskogee, Oklahoma, not underscore Feierstein on X. Make sure you go out and support live comedy.
00:10:26.000 I had previously advertised a show in Dallas at Hyenas in Dallas this Thursday, May 21st, but that show was canceled.
00:10:26.000 Please.
00:10:35.000 Due to circumstances that I can't control, some local comedy, drama, manager.
00:10:40.000 Really?
00:10:40.000 Yeah, I don't really know all the details.
00:10:43.000 They wanted you to perform nude, and you just said I have my limits.
00:10:46.000 It was someone else's show.
00:10:47.000 I was doing a comedy improv show with him, having some fun, but it's not happening now, so I'm sorry.
00:10:52.000 My phone call worked.
00:10:54.000 On with the show.
00:10:54.000 Fantastic.
00:10:57.000 Cancel culture, please.
00:10:58.000 No, It's the brand with that.
00:10:58.000 Glad to hear.
00:11:00.000 Gerald Morgan.
00:11:02.000 It's protection of an asset.
00:11:04.000 We like you so much.
00:11:05.000 We want you to stay here.
00:11:06.000 And so, therefore, I don't want you to succeed at anything else that you do.
00:11:08.000 Does that mean I'm working Thursday night?
00:11:10.000 Yeah.
00:11:11.000 A little bit.
00:11:12.000 Sweet.
00:11:13.000 All right.
00:11:13.000 Go support Josh.
00:11:15.000 I didn't make a phone call just to head off the rumors.
00:11:17.000 All right.
00:11:18.000 So, foodie and self styled creator of the thick sauce.
00:11:21.000 I'm not sure how you can say that you are the creator of the thick sauce and also what is the thick sauce. 1.00
00:11:26.000 That means she's fat. 0.99
00:11:27.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:11:28.000 Ah, yeah.
00:11:29.000 I see I'm not up on the Simba and Timba, whatever stuff, too.
00:11:34.000 Ari Tion, is that, I just pronounce it like.
00:11:36.000 Why would I know how to say that?
00:11:38.000 Lena. 1.00
00:11:40.000 You know, Ari Tion showed off her treadmill spicy bowl in our latest installment of Try Really Hard Not to Be Racist.
00:11:51.000 Should I do it?
00:11:52.000 I'm gonna do it.
00:11:56.000 Some of them armed with guns.
00:11:57.000 I'm gonna be feeling like it ain't no smart. 0.98
00:12:01.000 Sexual contact with an unresponsive man. 0.62
00:12:05.000 I ain't never seen a treadmill spicy bowl.
00:12:10.000 They ain't never seen a treadmill spicy bowl before.
00:12:13.000 Let's get into it.
00:12:14.000 Thick grass, big grass.
00:12:15.000 Let's see that.
00:12:15.000 Hold on.
00:12:17.000 The Airy Tiangue to Midwest.
00:12:18.000 What are we talking about?
00:12:20.000 Go here.
00:12:21.000 Man made horrors beyond your.
00:12:22.000 Comprehension.
00:12:25.000 I'm guessing that's not an equinox.
00:12:26.000 You gotta do that one more time.
00:12:27.000 I don't think they've seen that big graphic grab.
00:12:29.000 What are we doing?
00:12:31.000 I'm talking about we're working out and we're eating good.
00:12:35.000 You're not working out.
00:12:36.000 She thought it was the treadmill.
00:12:37.000 Big grab.
00:12:39.000 And then she don't want the extra sauce, but it's okay. 1.00
00:12:41.000 Y'all just talking about a motherfucker need a fruit bowl. 1.00
00:12:45.000 A fruit bowl. 1.00
00:12:45.000 Fruit bowl. 1.00
00:12:46.000 The Aritian way.
00:12:47.000 What are we talking about? 0.99
00:12:48.000 We're in the gym with it.
00:12:48.000 Hello.
00:12:51.000 Hold on.
00:12:52.000 Oh my gosh.
00:12:52.000 You in the gym?
00:12:53.000 Planet Fitness in my mouth?
00:12:53.000 What gym was it?
00:12:55.000 Nice.
00:12:57.000 Ow, hello.
00:12:59.000 Yeah, you could eat an eerie tea on bowl with a spicy bowl.
00:13:01.000 You could still work out.
00:13:02.000 Like, what are we talking about?
00:13:03.000 I think we just saw a roll get added to that.
00:13:09.000 Ow. 1.00
00:13:10.000 You saw how she was running for like four seconds. 1.00
00:13:13.000 And I wouldn't say running, maybe kind of a brisk walk for four seconds and then back to walking.
00:13:17.000 Listen, you're not, you can't work.
00:13:19.000 Listen, even in the best of circumstances, you couldn't do that.
00:13:22.000 You can't work out and eat at the same time.
00:13:25.000 Yes, you can.
00:13:26.000 I do a similar thing.
00:13:27.000 What are you even talking about?
00:13:27.000 Can.
00:13:28.000 Yeah, I do a similar thing in the gym.
00:13:30.000 What?
00:13:30.000 It's more effective, though.
00:13:57.000 I'm just glad that you figured out that if you turned up the treadmill a little bit faster that you could catch it.
00:14:01.000 Yeah, that's the trick.
00:14:02.000 You got to go a little faster.
00:14:03.000 Fantastic. 0.97
00:14:04.000 To be fair to her, that is only the third most ghetto thing that happened at that Planet Fitness that day. 0.87
00:14:10.000 Listen, and the try not to be racist thing, it's not because this person is black. 0.58
00:14:14.000 I would be equally mad at a white person for doing this.
00:14:18.000 It's just this idea of like this cultural thing where that's cool.
00:14:22.000 So whoever's responsible, I don't like.
00:14:22.000 I hate it.
00:14:25.000 I don't like any of that. 0.96
00:14:26.000 Do you know who has, like, when, Well put, and I don't mean to sound like Joe Biden, like he's a smart black guy.
00:14:30.000 Yeah.
00:14:32.000 You want to rephrase Mr. Grand Wizard? 1.00
00:14:33.000 No, when like well put together, you know, black people see shit like this, are they not the most angry? 1.00
00:14:39.000 Wouldn't they have to be the most perturbed? 1.00
00:14:41.000 Because it's like you are bringing, I'm trying to do my shit right over here and I have to deal with this. 0.95
00:14:46.000 I have to feel like they are the most annoyed demographic at all of this. 0.95
00:14:48.000 Yeah.
00:14:49.000 And there's a lot of people, look, there are a lot of things.
00:14:51.000 Maybe comment below on things that you hate that other people do.
00:14:53.000 It doesn't have to be racist, though.
00:14:55.000 Let's be real careful.
00:14:56.000 People who annoy you.
00:15:00.000 Come on, you can say it.
00:15:03.000 Who's your least favorite race, Gerald? 1.00
00:15:04.000 My least favorite race? 1.00
00:15:06.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:15:09.000 Starting off right.
00:15:09.000 How about this?
00:15:10.000 I'll tell you my least favorite thing that a particular race tends to do. 1.00
00:15:16.000 That's fair. 1.00
00:15:18.000 We all know.
00:15:19.000 I mean, it's fair.
00:15:20.000 No, it's any, and really, this is crossing cultures.
00:15:23.000 It's where there's been cultural spread.
00:15:25.000 It's anybody who walks around talking on speakerphone. 0.85
00:15:29.000 Any race that does that, don't think that's a cultural spread.
00:15:31.000 I'm pretty sure we all know.
00:15:32.000 No, no, I did.
00:15:34.000 No, I did.
00:15:35.000 Listen, listen, listen.
00:15:36.000 I have evidence of this.
00:15:37.000 Yeah, I did. 0.96
00:15:38.000 If a black person heard you say that, they would immediately call you racist. 0.96
00:15:41.000 Hey, why are you talking about me? 0.98
00:15:43.000 They started it and it's spreading to Hispanic culture.
00:15:46.000 I've seen that recently. 0.92
00:15:48.000 The Latins do it.
00:15:49.000 Thank you very much. 1.00
00:15:50.000 And I'm saying it's bad and we should not like it or the perpetrators of it. 1.00
00:15:55.000 Old Chinese ladies do it too. 1.00
00:15:57.000 I think that should be the border question. 1.00
00:15:58.000 You want to come to this country? 0.95
00:15:59.000 Do you speak on speakerphone in public? 0.99
00:16:02.000 Yes.
00:16:03.000 Then you're not allowed in the country.
00:16:04.000 No more questions need to be asked.
00:16:06.000 All right, moving on.
00:16:07.000 Actor Sebastian Stan.
00:16:09.000 That's the Winter Soldier for all of you fans out there.
00:16:12.000 I thought that was the lobster from Little Mermaid.
00:16:15.000 No, it's the meerkat from Lion King.
00:16:17.000 Oh. 0.99
00:16:18.000 I hate all of you. 0.99
00:16:19.000 Isn't that the Chicago comedian? 0.99
00:16:21.000 Hit the stinger, Tim!
00:16:33.000 Now, listen.
00:16:34.000 I feel like we're your kids.
00:16:35.000 You're really kind of alarmed.
00:16:37.000 We're actually trying to mess with you.
00:16:38.000 When do I get to beat you?
00:16:40.000 I'm just kidding.
00:16:41.000 You're much larger than me, so I don't get to be.
00:16:43.000 It does insinuate that I beat my children.
00:16:45.000 That's the joke. 1.00
00:16:45.000 Oh, but it's true. 1.00
00:16:46.000 Because I don't.
00:16:47.000 Well, I'm a nice, wholesome father.
00:16:50.000 You might be upset at Donald Trump because he hasn't gone far enough.
00:16:53.000 I understand that, just like I am upset at every other person in this room.
00:16:57.000 It happens.
00:16:57.000 I get it.
00:16:58.000 But Hollywood is upset at him for all kinds of different reasons, most notably because he's a fascist. 0.97
00:17:06.000 He's Hitler. 0.97
00:17:07.000 I'm a fascist authoritarian. 1.00
00:17:08.000 He's a racist. 1.00
00:17:10.000 Trump loves Hitler. 1.00
00:17:12.000 Anti Muslim, anti Semitic. 1.00
00:17:13.000 A tried and true, like, dyed in the wool racist. 1.00
00:17:17.000 The guy's a monster. 1.00
00:17:18.000 Corrupt, incompetent, and treasonous. 1.00
00:17:22.000 King or a monarch. 1.00
00:17:23.000 A racist, abusive coward who could permanently damage the fabric of our society. 1.00
00:17:28.000 He's the worst. 1.00
00:17:29.000 He talks like a fascist. 1.00
00:17:30.000 He acts like a fascist. 1.00
00:17:31.000 He's friends with fascists. 0.98
00:17:32.000 He compliments fascists.
00:17:34.000 He probably couldn't even define what a fascist is, but.
00:17:37.000 Thank goodness Hollywood can step in and tell us now we have a new hot take from the winter soldier Sebastian Stan at the Cannes Film Festival.
00:17:46.000 But you were last here with The Apprentice, and it was months before the election, and Trump has been president for over a year now.
00:17:54.000 And I'm just curious how your understanding of him has evolved in that time.
00:17:59.000 More like the leukemia soldier.
00:18:05.000 My last winter soldier.
00:18:06.000 It's just not a laughing matter, to be honest.
00:18:08.000 It's not a wizard.
00:18:09.000 I'll get on there.
00:18:10.000 You know, it's.
00:18:13.000 I think we're in a really, really bad place.
00:18:16.000 You articulate it.
00:18:18.000 And to be honest with you, it's like when you're looking at what's happening, right?
00:18:24.000 Which is if we're talking about the consolidation of the media, censorship, the threats, the supposed lawsuits that seemingly never end but don't actually go anywhere.
00:18:37.000 You know, the writing was on the wall.
00:18:39.000 We encountered all that with the movie, you know.
00:18:42.000 To the point where we were three days before the festival unsure if the movie was going to play at the festival.
00:18:48.000 So, you know, it's maybe people are paying attention more to that film.
00:18:55.000 I think it will stand the test of time for that, but we went through all of it way before Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert and so on, you know.
00:19:02.000 So, wish it wasn't like that. 0.76
00:19:06.000 I wish you wouldn't have killed Iron Man's parents. 0.95
00:19:08.000 That's true. 0.66
00:19:13.000 If we get to go back and say things we don't want to do.
00:19:15.000 Fantastic.
00:19:16.000 I get it.
00:19:17.000 Listen, listen, I understand.
00:19:18.000 We're going to address all of his comments here in just a second.
00:19:20.000 But first, Donald Trump, President Trump, clearly tried to get to the bottom of his disdain with a new song.
00:19:26.000 And here's a sneak preview.
00:19:28.000 I know I inspire you, Sebastian Stan, but why are you so mad trying to understand that I do want you as a fan?
00:19:37.000 It seems like he's reaching out in the only way he knows how, lyrically.
00:19:43.000 Turns out he was too late.
00:19:45.000 He already drove his car over a bridge.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, that's.
00:19:50.000 Huh? 0.96
00:19:51.000 He had his girlfriend in the back and she was pregnant with his kid. 0.99
00:19:53.000 Oh. 0.68
00:19:54.000 Really?
00:19:55.000 Yeah.
00:19:55.000 There's a backstory to this?
00:19:57.000 You never heard this song by Eminem?
00:19:57.000 What?
00:19:58.000 Oh.
00:19:59.000 Oh my gosh.
00:19:59.000 Admonish?
00:20:02.000 Too deep.
00:20:03.000 That was too deep.
00:20:05.000 I stopped listening to Eminem a long time ago.
00:20:06.000 Sorry.
00:20:07.000 That song's from a long time ago.
00:20:09.000 Was that like an original song?
00:20:12.000 I didn't pay attention to the lyrics.
00:20:14.000 Okay.
00:20:14.000 I was listening to Christian music, trying not to be a hoodlum.
00:20:17.000 Okay.
00:20:17.000 All right.
00:20:18.000 So let's go through each of his points on stuff that I know.
00:20:22.000 Consolidation of media, right?
00:20:24.000 So he's apparently thinking that that's a big problem right now.
00:20:28.000 Certainly, he's probably talking about Meta, Google, Disney, and Wanda.
00:20:32.000 Lane, what the hell is Wanda?
00:20:34.000 Well, he's all pissed about the media consolidation.
00:20:36.000 You would have thought when Wanda, Dalian Group, which is a Chinese conglomerate, bought AMC theaters, or when they bought Legendary Pictures, they would have been equally upset.
00:20:46.000 Hollywood would have been up in arms.
00:20:47.000 Did they say anything?
00:20:48.000 Oh, they didn't say anything.
00:20:49.000 Oh, okay.
00:20:49.000 So he's not actually mad at all the big tech consolidation that we saw, or the Hollywood consolidation, or the communist buyout of Hollywood.
00:20:57.000 None of those things.
00:20:58.000 None of that stuff or any of the other media services that we've talked about where they controlled everything and big tech employees gave 99% of their donations to Dems in the 2024 cycle.
00:21:09.000 Hollywood was 89.4% went to Democrats.
00:21:12.000 And Paramount was the other 11%.
00:21:13.000 Oh, yeah, pretty much, right.
00:21:15.000 But it's a problem when Paramount acquires Warner Discovery.
00:21:18.000 Is it because one of the people involved in that deal is supposed to be kind of a right leaning person?
00:21:22.000 Yeah, because David Ellison is close.
00:21:24.000 So because there's a perceived Trump ally.
00:21:24.000 Ah.
00:21:26.000 Now, now we have to step in.
00:21:28.000 Gotcha.
00:21:28.000 That's media consolidation.
00:21:29.000 The Trump ban is bad.
00:21:30.000 Fantastic.
00:21:31.000 I hope.
00:21:32.000 I hope we've illuminated this a little bit.
00:21:34.000 Let's go to censorship.
00:21:35.000 He gave some examples of that.
00:21:36.000 Colbert, he was losing viewers.
00:21:39.000 Kimmel, blatantly lied to his syndicated audience.
00:21:43.000 And also, Hollywood was really silent, didn't do much of those videos that you saw us put a mashup together for on the Twitter files, the Board of Disinformation, COVID, Joe Rogan, and Spotify, because every time we say it, we have to say it the correct way that Jen Psaki said it when she was saying it as the press secretary.
00:22:01.000 None of those seemed to matter to them.
00:22:03.000 And it didn't matter that, you know, Harvey Weinstein was diddling people for, you know, two decades until it did matter when it was socially acceptable for it to matter.
00:22:11.000 I don't know if he diddled people or whatever.
00:22:13.000 Wait, were the accusations brand new?
00:22:15.000 No, they weren't.
00:22:16.000 Oh, they've been going forever.
00:22:17.000 Everybody just let it happen with him and Kevin Spacey and everybody else.
00:22:20.000 Kevin Spacey.
00:22:21.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:22:22.000 Kevin Spacey was just gay. 0.99
00:22:23.000 He was very gay. 0.63
00:22:24.000 I don't think he was like, I don't know.
00:22:26.000 That's where the guys, I'm gay quote comes from for me.
00:22:29.000 It's Kevin Spacey's defense to all this assault charges. 0.66
00:22:32.000 Guys, I'm gay.
00:22:34.000 But I can't do an accent, and so therefore it's a little bit of infamy, and it's like I said it.
00:22:38.000 He was great in seven, though.
00:22:39.000 He's fantastic.
00:22:40.000 Now we have variations of that.
00:22:41.000 Let's go to his movie that will, quote, stand the test of time.
00:22:47.000 Apprentice, the box office, $4 million domestically, $13 million internationally.
00:22:54.000 Hey, there you go.
00:22:55.000 Fantastic.
00:22:56.000 I'm sure it didn't cost any money to do that.
00:22:57.000 By the way, the budget for this was $16 million.
00:23:00.000 And no, the box office of $17 million combined dollars doesn't mean profit of a million dollars.
00:23:06.000 No, no, no.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, that's what the theaters collected.
00:23:08.000 There's some split between the theaters, 60, 40, 40, 60, 50, 50, somewhere in there.
00:23:13.000 They lost money.
00:23:14.000 You have to double for marketing, also.
00:23:15.000 There you go.
00:23:16.000 So there's another $16 million that they spent on that.
00:23:18.000 It was a certified flop.
00:23:19.000 But won't they get a cut of the rentals at Hollywood Video?
00:23:23.000 I don't think so.
00:23:24.000 I don't think it's around anymore.
00:23:25.000 Bummer, dude.
00:23:26.000 Blockbuster, maybe check it out.
00:23:26.000 Sorry, bud.
00:23:27.000 If they would stop making shit, that could be a start. 0.99
00:23:32.000 I would just like these people to represent America well overseas. 0.99
00:23:36.000 I don't hear very many people, other than like USA Hockey.
00:23:40.000 Going overseas and representing the United States with any kind of pride, right?
00:23:45.000 With any kind of like, hey, every country has their faults, but look at how amazing our country is.
00:23:51.000 Look at what we have done for the world.
00:23:53.000 You'd be like, yeah, but you made a mistake over here.
00:23:55.000 Point to any country that hasn't.
00:23:55.000 Fantastic.
00:23:57.000 Do me a favor and do that.
00:23:58.000 Now, point to any country that has had the impact on the world and a positive sense that the United States has had.
00:24:04.000 You can't.
00:24:06.000 And I'm not looking for people to go over and just completely go, Donald Trump's the best, but how about I love my country?
00:24:11.000 How about, you know what?
00:24:12.000 We're in difficult times right now, and I pray that our leadership will do the right thing, that they will submit themselves to God and make sure that they lead our country well.
00:24:20.000 Sometimes that doesn't happen, and it saddens me when it doesn't.
00:24:23.000 When Obama was droning kids in Yemen, wherever were they?
00:24:26.000 Where was the outrage at the Khan film festival? 0.87
00:24:28.000 I don't even fault Obama for being some kid murder.
00:24:30.000 That's not what I'm saying. 0.75
00:24:31.000 But you could equally relate.
00:24:33.000 That's how they would spin it, though.
00:24:34.000 That's how they would spin it.
00:24:35.000 Because I've had this question from my liberal friends before, too.
00:24:37.000 It's like when they're saying something about Iran or saying something about Venezuela, and they're like, yeah, but I bet you criticized Obama.
00:24:43.000 I'm like, no, I didn't, actually.
00:24:44.000 Correct.
00:24:44.000 Right.
00:24:45.000 I actually served in the military under Obama.
00:24:45.000 I didn't.
00:24:48.000 Not that I was like, I want to serve for Obama.
00:24:49.000 That wasn't the thing, but it was just the happenstance.
00:24:51.000 But you see, I never spoke up about it because I was like, I don't really have a problem.
00:24:55.000 With what he's doing.
00:24:55.000 Conservatives' pride in America stays consistent throughout administrations.
00:24:59.000 Democrats ebb and flow based on who they have at home.
00:25:01.000 They're Fairweather fans.
00:25:02.000 It's really, it's.
00:25:03.000 If you're doing exactly what I want you to do, exactly what I want you to do, then I'm proud to be American.
00:25:09.000 But if the other half of the country comes together and says we don't want to go that direction, then all of a sudden I'm not proud to be an American.
00:25:09.000 Yep.
00:25:16.000 We'll just leave then.
00:25:17.000 We've had this opportunity for you for a very long time.
00:25:20.000 But people in Hollywood, like the Winter Soldier here, have zero consideration for the livelihoods.
00:25:25.000 Of the American citizen, whether it comes down to the border, inflation, crime, they only really care about issues that affect them, AI and media consolidation, when it somehow affects them in a way that it didn't prior because it served their interests.
00:25:42.000 It really should be the destruction of media consolidation.
00:25:47.000 That's really what they're frustrated about, that they don't have the stranglehold that they used to have, and that people are now looking at places like CNN that was supposed to be somewhere in the middle of Fox and MSNBC.
00:25:57.000 As absolutely 100% no different than MSNBC.
00:26:01.000 Only MSNBC says it.
00:26:03.000 That's the only difference.
00:26:04.000 They claim to be far left, where CNN says we're objective.
00:26:08.000 They hate it that people don't look at them as trusted sources anymore.
00:26:11.000 Writ large, I would agree, I think most of us would, that overconsolidation is a bad thing for competition and quality, whether that's Hollywood, tech, or the defense industry.
00:26:20.000 So, on a face value statement, we agree, but this is not a face value.
00:26:25.000 This is their own ulterior motives that they're trying to shoehorn in with the cause du jour.
00:26:28.000 That's all it is.
00:26:29.000 Yeah, and it's, there's not a consistent position.
00:26:32.000 We'll get to Thomas Massey here in just a minute.
00:26:34.000 But there's no consistent position.
00:26:36.000 They don't want what will make it easier for people to have a voice against their opinion.
00:26:44.000 And just remember what Hollywood's opinions have been over the years. 0.99
00:26:47.000 Just remember what kind of movies, what kind of representation pushes they have gone for, normalizing homosexuality. 0.50
00:26:52.000 And as a Christian, I'm not for homosexuality being thrown in my son's face when he's watching a kid's movie, which happens all the time. 1.00
00:27:01.000 I'm not okay with transing kids. 0.97
00:27:03.000 I'm not okay with pushing the LGBTQ agenda on children. 1.00
00:27:08.000 I'm not okay with drag queen story hour. 1.00
00:27:10.000 I'm not okay with all of the things that Hollywood seems to celebrate. 0.73
00:27:13.000 I'm not okay with gratuitous violence.
00:27:15.000 I'm not okay with sex scenes in every single movie, just kind of wedging in nudity every single time you can.
00:27:22.000 I'm a guy. 0.94
00:27:23.000 I have a naked girl at home. 1.00
00:27:24.000 It's called my wife. 1.00
00:27:25.000 That's the one that I want to look at.
00:27:26.000 I understand you may say that makes me a prude.
00:27:28.000 Fine, fantastic.
00:27:29.000 I don't care.
00:27:30.000 I'm a Christian.
00:27:31.000 I'm trying to make sure that other men don't struggle as much as I did.
00:27:35.000 Dealing with that issue. 0.83
00:27:36.000 She should get dressed.
00:27:37.000 It's like.
00:27:38.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it's, you know, it's.
00:27:39.000 Teach their own jockey.
00:27:41.000 I'm waiting for you all day. 1.00
00:27:42.000 That's a pretty awesome lady, actually.
00:27:44.000 It's fantastic.
00:27:45.000 I text, I'm on my way home immediately. 1.00
00:27:48.000 It's like reverse Islam. 1.00
00:27:49.000 Exactly. 0.99
00:27:50.000 I love it.
00:27:51.000 It's my little contribution.
00:27:51.000 Yeah.
00:27:53.000 You won't know about it because it's within the confines of my house, honey.
00:27:56.000 What's gratuitous violence? 1.00
00:27:58.000 Gratuitous violence?
00:27:59.000 Like, I just don't like violence for the sake of violence.
00:28:02.000 Oh, wow.
00:28:03.000 I'm sorry.
00:28:03.000 Right?
00:28:04.000 It's not that I'm like going out and campaigning against it.
00:28:07.000 I just don't prefer that.
00:28:08.000 But Hollywood does.
00:28:09.000 Hollywood likes it.
00:28:11.000 Hollywood loves all of these things that a number of people are not.
00:28:14.000 I don't know if you're actually that caught up with the film industry because the whole idea of like nudity for nudity's sake and violence, those are like 80s and 90s tropes that are really not a thing.
00:28:22.000 Bro.
00:28:23.000 It's not.
00:28:24.000 Bro.
00:28:25.000 We'll have another conversation about this later.
00:28:26.000 Hold on, I got to get back to that.
00:28:27.000 Say that it's 80s and 90s and not.
00:28:29.000 Say it's 2000s and the teens.
00:28:32.000 It's not really, though.
00:28:33.000 Okay.
00:28:34.000 Well, we'll have an argument about that later.
00:28:36.000 I mean, I don't disagree that maybe it's got to be a thing.
00:28:37.000 Anything on HBO.
00:28:38.000 Yeah.
00:28:39.000 Talk about the film industry, but yeah.
00:28:41.000 Well, I mean, Hollywood in general.
00:28:42.000 It's a home box office.
00:28:43.000 That's what I was told at the end.
00:28:46.000 But look, I will say this to move on just a little bit to get off my soapbox.
00:28:50.000 It is fun to watch these celebrities wigging out, but you don't have to when it comes to your mortgage. 1.00
00:29:01.000 My girl likes it. 0.98
00:29:08.000 Yo, what up, fam?
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00:29:20.000 Backup singers for the hook, dancers for the video, and we're gonna film it all right here in my crib so y'all can see how I be living.
00:29:28.000 You're filming what here?
00:29:30.000 Dad, I told you a hundred times!
00:29:33.000 My music video!
00:29:36.000 You said you and Mom's is gonna be out this weekend looking for a new Shays Lounge for my studio.
00:29:40.000 Studio?
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00:29:51.000 Mortgage rates is too high right now.
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00:29:59.000 You mean your cousin Daniel?
00:29:59.000 DJ?
00:30:02.000 What's your band called?
00:30:03.000 Double D's, Daryl, and the douche?
00:30:06.000 Dad, I told you.
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00:30:57.000 Or we're not trying.
00:30:58.000 I'm working on it.
00:31:00.000 We actually seem like we are.
00:31:02.000 Is there any other movies we could put them in that they'll be like, what the heck were these guys thinking?
00:31:02.000 We'll see.
00:31:06.000 Okay.
00:31:07.000 Schindler's List.
00:31:10.000 Schindler's Listings.
00:31:13.000 I just came up with one.
00:31:14.000 Nice.
00:31:15.000 Let's do it.
00:31:16.000 Oh boy.
00:31:17.000 This house recently became available.
00:31:20.000 This is free.
00:31:21.000 The other family that was here, they took a train ride somewhere else.
00:31:24.000 They left.
00:31:24.000 We don't know.
00:31:25.000 It didn't say when they were coming back.
00:31:27.000 Move in.
00:31:30.000 Okay, that one's going to be rough.
00:31:32.000 But I'm all for it, Josh.
00:31:33.000 Go ahead and see if we can make that happen and do what we can here.
00:31:37.000 Thomas Massey.
00:31:39.000 So, if you've been following really social media over the last day, two days, it's been pretty much the story.
00:31:48.000 There hasn't been a ton going on out in the rest of the world for it to be knocked off its perch as the top of mind thing.
00:31:54.000 It's one of the races that we knew was going to be very big.
00:31:58.000 And we knew it for a different reason than maybe you're going to be told about.
00:32:02.000 By some of your favorite content creators out there, especially people on the right, which is very interesting to me.
00:32:07.000 And I just want to make sure that we go through this, we take a look at it, inform you, and tell you why we think this happened.
00:32:15.000 Same issues that we've been calling out for a while, with people like Thomas Massey kind of getting rolled up into this and also agreeing with Thomas Massey on a number of issues.
00:32:24.000 But I want to make sure we see a pattern developing here and that we don't miss the lesson. 0.68
00:32:29.000 Apparently, when you look at this, just being anti Israel doesn't seem like it's a winning strategy.
00:32:38.000 Okay.
00:32:39.000 You can be for reforming the relationship with Israel.
00:32:42.000 You can be for making AIPAC register under FARA.
00:32:45.000 You can be for making sure that we have less foreign influence, including Israel's influence on the United States, less foreign influence in our politics here at home.
00:32:55.000 You can be for all of those things, but it can't be the only thing that you're for.
00:32:59.000 We're seeing that right now in Florida.
00:33:01.000 That race isn't over yet, but obviously, Fishback doesn't look like he's going to win in the runoff or in the primary.
00:33:07.000 We saw it in Ohio when Vivek Ramaswamy beat Push.
00:33:12.000 And we just saw it with the poster child, the candidate that is supposed to have the ground game, the candidate that's supposed to have the support of this movement, the candidate that, if anybody is going to get you to come out of the woodworks and make sure that he stays in office, it would have been Thomas Massey.
00:33:28.000 And he lost to Gal Rain, and he came out coping a bit last night.
00:33:35.000 All right.
00:33:42.000 Listen, I would have come out sooner, but I had to.
00:33:45.000 Call my opponent and concede.
00:33:47.000 And it took a while to find Ed Galrine in Tel Aviv.
00:33:55.000 He came out and conceded because he lost by almost 10 points 54 9 to 45 1.
00:34:04.000 It wasn't close.
00:34:06.000 And for those of you pearl clutching about that comment about finding him in Tel Aviv, I don't understand.
00:34:13.000 There's a lot that I don't like about Thomas Massey, the fact that he chose to say something like that on a candidate.
00:34:18.000 That he said was propped up by Israel the entire time, that really didn't offend me. 0.99
00:34:22.000 I thought it was funny. 0.91
00:34:23.000 I thought it was kind of funny.
00:34:24.000 That's what I said.
00:34:25.000 I was like, I disagree with it, but I think it's kind of a funny way of saying it.
00:34:28.000 You know, it's like saying if somebody's supported by Hollywood, I couldn't find my opponent because he was too busy out there with Weinstein in Hollywood or something like that.
00:34:36.000 I mean, kind of funny.
00:34:39.000 Focus your attention in places that it really matters.
00:34:41.000 And it's a lot of the politicians.
00:34:43.000 Like, honestly, I think Ted Cruz said that about him.
00:34:45.000 And I was like, really, Ted?
00:34:47.000 That's the biggest problem you've got?
00:34:49.000 Massey did get the youth vote.
00:34:52.000 But then he did also claim that the seat was bought.
00:34:56.000 We have the younger demographic, you know, the people that, you know, want somebody that'll go along to get along.
00:35:02.000 I've never heard of that strategy, but that seems to be what the voters want. 0.94
00:35:07.000 That's what's been promised to them, but not the young voters.
00:35:10.000 Why did this, why did the race get so expensive?
00:35:13.000 Because they decided to buy the seat.
00:35:15.000 So I just want to take one second.
00:35:18.000 And again, just because I'm arguing over the specifics doesn't mean that I agree with it.
00:35:23.000 It doesn't mean that I'm celebrating that Thomas Massey was defeated.
00:35:26.000 There's some reasons why I think that's a good thing.
00:35:28.000 There's a reason why I think that's a bad thing.
00:35:31.000 But to say it's a go along, get along mentality, nobody ever asked you that I know of that was criticizing you from a principled place to say, hey, just go along to get along, Thomas.
00:35:41.000 We don't want you to ruffle any feathers or have any of your own opinions about things.
00:35:44.000 We don't want you to have your own principles and stands that you take on your own.
00:35:48.000 The critique is actually something much different than that.
00:35:51.000 So don't straw man the other side.
00:35:53.000 And the reason I say that is because it keeps you from addressing the issue.
00:35:57.000 That caused you to lose and that is causing your side to lose.
00:36:00.000 It seems like every single time you guys get pissed off and run or support a candidate or support a stance, you lose.
00:36:09.000 Don't miss the lesson.
00:36:10.000 And saying that it's a go along to get along mentality will make you miss the lesson.
00:36:14.000 His strongest support, by the way, was in the 18 to 29 bracket, but they're only 5.4% of likely voters.
00:36:21.000 Galrain's strongest support was in 65, though he had great support down through 45.
00:36:25.000 38.9% of likely voters in the 65 category.
00:36:30.000 Do you understand how to win an election?
00:36:33.000 You can't go after just that group.
00:36:35.000 Now, I understand that you may be thinking that by going after the youth, that later on in life, they'll adopt this position and they will be your base going forward.
00:36:44.000 That's not exactly true, though.
00:36:47.000 You have to remember that youth always prefer an outsider, they always want the rebel to come in and change things because they may see some imperfections in the system during certain times, or they may look at a system like right now and go, How in the world am I supposed to buy a house, survive, get a job with AI?
00:37:03.000 They've got a lot of legitimate concerns.
00:37:05.000 And so they say, well, let's get an outsider to come in here and fix this.
00:37:08.000 The problem is that doesn't continue on into adulthood.
00:37:12.000 Give you an example 1992, younger people supported Ross Perot.
00:37:16.000 I remember this versus Clinton and Bush.
00:37:19.000 How much of the vote did Perot get here among all voters?
00:37:22.000 19%.
00:37:24.000 That's actually the best performance we've ever had from a third candidate, if I'm not mistaken.
00:37:28.000 It is, but his strongest support group was the same strong support group that Massey had.
00:37:32.000 Bush has.
00:37:32.000 The youth.
00:37:33.000 Fishback is citing.
00:37:36.000 Yeah, the youth vote.
00:37:37.000 He got all of it.
00:37:38.000 The support for libertarians, outside candidates among that Gen Z, or not Gen Z, but what would be Gen Z now, has always held true.
00:37:46.000 Yeah.
00:37:47.000 But those were probably always the most politically active, terminally online people that are going to go out and vote the 5% of voters, right?
00:37:53.000 It's just not a big slice of the pizza.
00:37:55.000 But once they start getting more responsibilities, they start understanding the pragmatic realities of how government works, the libertarian ideology starts to fall apart a little bit because it just really doesn't go anywhere.
00:38:06.000 It doesn't go anywhere and it doesn't mesh with the world that we have in front of us. 0.53
00:38:10.000 And this isn't to say we have problems with boomers. 0.99
00:38:12.000 I have a. 1.00
00:38:12.000 There's a lot. 1.00
00:38:13.000 Of course we.
00:38:13.000 What are you talking about?
00:38:14.000 That's again, that's fine. 0.87
00:38:14.000 This is why I'm saying the boomers know what's right all the time. 0.87
00:38:16.000 That's not what we're saying here. 0.79
00:38:18.000 I think the boomers get a lot of stuff wrong. 0.99
00:38:19.000 I think they vote in their own self interest. 1.00
00:38:21.000 But guess what they do?
00:38:22.000 They vote.
00:38:23.000 Right. 0.98
00:38:25.000 You don't as a group of young people.
00:38:28.000 And I understand being pissed off about the world around you and I understand wanting change.
00:38:32.000 But you also have to understand that with a little time and a little wisdom, you might see things differently.
00:38:39.000 And I hope it's not because you're, I don't know, compromising on your morality or your principled stances.
00:38:45.000 That's not what I want.
00:38:46.000 I just want you to see the world for what it really is.
00:38:49.000 I want you to see when you can get stuff done and when you can't.
00:38:53.000 You can't just tell the other half of the people in this country exactly what you want to do and have them do it.
00:38:58.000 Do you see what happens when we go into cities to deport criminals?
00:39:02.000 You can't just tell people, I'm going to deport everybody.
00:39:05.000 They won't go along with it.
00:39:06.000 You have to be strategic about this.
00:39:08.000 Not because I'm just trying to make nice with the other side, but because I actually want to get something done.
00:39:14.000 I don't want to just talk about it and have rhetoric about it.
00:39:16.000 I want to actually get something done.
00:39:18.000 And by the way, if Massey's seat was bought, as the claim is now, how did the establishment fail to buy these seats?
00:39:25.000 In Texas, Cornyn outspent Paxton 16 to 1 during the primary, 4 to 1 during the runoff.
00:39:30.000 The latest poll has Paxton ahead 52 40.
00:39:34.000 And Trump went against the establishment money to give his endorsement to who he thinks will win.
00:39:39.000 He's only giving it because he thinks Paxton would win.
00:39:41.000 Yes.
00:39:42.000 Because the people in Texas do want, prefer Paxton over Trump. 0.98
00:39:45.000 Corinne.
00:39:46.000 Absolutely.
00:39:46.000 And in Louisiana recently, Senator Bill Cassidy had three times more money than his other two rivals, but he came in third place and will not even be in the runoff.
00:39:57.000 So, if the seat was bought and that was the only reason that people came out and voted the way that they did, why doesn't that play out down here?
00:40:08.000 Maybe there's another reason. 0.60
00:40:10.000 Maybe there's a part of this that you're not looking at when you just go, Israel, Epstein, that's what it is, the swamp.
00:40:18.000 Maybe there's a part of this that you're missing.
00:40:22.000 And if you took a minute to look at it, you might change strategies and I think be more effective because what I'm saying is that I agree with a lot.
00:40:30.000 Of what you guys want.
00:40:32.000 The people that are supporters of Thomas Massey.
00:40:34.000 We agree with a lot of what you want.
00:40:35.000 You've got a coalition you can build.
00:40:38.000 And in fact, I think they were on their way to building.
00:40:40.000 The tide was turning.
00:40:42.000 And then you went all in and left these other issues that people really care about on the table.
00:40:50.000 Let's get into other reasons, though, why maybe he lost.
00:40:54.000 Some of the reasons that you're going to hear right now are going to come from people like Nick Fuentes.
00:40:59.000 I disagree with some of these reasons, I agree with some of them.
00:41:03.000 But I'm going to give you what I think really is going on and why he lost.
00:41:06.000 You're not going to like it because it's not a conspiracy theory and it doesn't point at this world being run by other people.
00:41:12.000 But let's hear what Nick has to say first.
00:41:15.000 All of the pro Trump politicians, party loyalists, influencers, guys like Captive Dreamer, emblematic of them, they're all saying something completely different.
00:41:27.000 And I told you that this is what they would do.
00:41:30.000 All of them, the White House and the mainstream media, They have a completely different take on this.
00:41:35.000 They say, why did Thomas Massey lose?
00:41:37.000 Well, it's not because the Jews injected $33 million to punish him for voting against foreign aid.
00:41:44.000 They say this is a referendum on Trump's influence over the party.
00:41:50.000 They have a very different take.
00:41:51.000 They say that Trump pointed at the district, pointed at Massey, said he wanted him to lose, and so he lost.
00:41:58.000 They say, well, Massey didn't vote for the big, beautiful bill.
00:42:01.000 And what was contained in the big, beautiful bill?
00:42:03.000 Well, $200 billion for DHS to secure the border.
00:42:07.000 And carry out mass deportations.
00:42:09.000 So they take it further and say not only did Massey upset the president, not only was he disloyal to the party and voted against the party's agenda, but they say he voted against border security and mass deportations.
00:42:23.000 So he was a left wing open borders traitor who went against the president.
00:42:29.000 And so the president used his immense influence over the party and the base to throw him out.
00:42:35.000 And this is what the media says, and this is what the Trump and party loyalists are saying.
00:42:40.000 They say it's all about Trump.
00:42:42.000 And I told you last night, if you watch my show, I predicted that to the letter.
00:42:48.000 I said that is exactly what they were going to say.
00:42:51.000 I said, it looks like more likely than not, Massey's going to lose.
00:42:55.000 And when he does, that's the line they're going to go with.
00:42:57.000 And by the way, that's what the history books will record.
00:43:01.000 Let's dive into that then.
00:43:03.000 Seems like you're making a prediction there.
00:43:05.000 Let's see if that's been something that we talked about before.
00:43:07.000 The angle on the big, beautiful bill, he was one of two, Massey, one of two no votes on the bill.
00:43:12.000 What was the other one?
00:43:13.000 Paul, was that in the house?
00:43:13.000 Ran.
00:43:15.000 In the house, he's one or two no votes.
00:43:16.000 Okay, so I thought you were doing overall people that weren't supporting it because I tend to confuse those two people.
00:43:21.000 We talked about that earlier, they're very interchangeable.
00:43:23.000 He was against it, yeah.
00:43:24.000 That's that's fine.
00:43:25.000 We'll deal with that in a second.
00:43:26.000 Massey also said, Although there were some conservative wins in the budget reconciliation bill, I voted no on final passage because it will significantly increase U.S. budget deficits in the near term, negatively impacting all Americans through sustained inflation and high interest rates.
00:43:43.000 At the time.
00:43:45.000 We talked about this. 1.00
00:43:47.000 At the time, we thought that that was a stupid argument. 0.98
00:43:50.000 I believe that the BBB passed, was it July 1st or so? 0.99
00:43:54.000 So, sorry, July 4th, right?
00:43:56.000 We have a comment from Trump here in just a second about it on July 1st to kind of give you an insight as to why maybe he was against Massey.
00:44:02.000 But we talked about this.
00:44:04.000 It would increase the debt ceiling as a part of this entire bill.
00:44:08.000 Instead of doing what Republicans seemingly always do, get to a debt ceiling increase needing to happen.
00:44:16.000 And I say needing to happen because if you're going to deal with this problem and make sure that we don't ever have to increase the debt ceiling again, you can't wait to a few months before it.
00:44:23.000 You've got to make structural changes way before that.
00:44:25.000 And nobody seems to be willing to do that right now.
00:44:27.000 So, one person's not going to affect that.
00:44:30.000 I'd like to see a coalition built around people that would like to make it to where we don't have to borrow more money.
00:44:34.000 Fantastic.
00:44:34.000 That'd be great.
00:44:35.000 I just haven't seen any proposals for that that had any kind of likelihood of ever getting to see the light of day.
00:44:41.000 So, instead of waiting until August of 2025 and going hat in hand and saying, hey, can we please get this raised and having to give up God knows what to be able to get it, Donald Trump said, let's put it in this bill that's wildly popular among Republicans.
00:44:58.000 So that was the issue. 0.99
00:45:00.000 Republicans would have lost reconciliation and the ability to secure the border funding that we needed to do what I would argue is incredibly important for the American people in making sure that we get people out of this country that should not be here in the first place. 0.72
00:45:14.000 That, what is it, $150 to $450 billion per year that is going out the door to these people?
00:45:22.000 That is important.
00:45:24.000 And on July 1st, three days before the bill passed in 2025, Trump predicted Massey would be, quote, history.
00:45:31.000 I just don't think he does a good job for the country.
00:45:36.000 He's always in a.
00:45:38.000 They call him Red Bull Jr.
00:45:39.000 That's why I'm confused.
00:45:42.000 Nothing constructive at all.
00:45:45.000 Thomas Massey from Kentucky.
00:45:46.000 He's going to have a big opponent, a good opponent.
00:45:52.000 Who's going to win?
00:45:52.000 Yeah.
00:45:55.000 The poll just came out, and it showed anybody I endorse against Massey.
00:46:00.000 Massey loses by 23.
00:46:01.000 So he's going to be as famous as he was.
00:46:06.000 Hmm.
00:46:08.000 Pretty clear.
00:46:09.000 This isn't a new talking point.
00:46:10.000 No.
00:46:11.000 July 1st, 2025.
00:46:14.000 So the long story short on this, if they wait past when they pass the BBB, you give Democrats more and more leverage, and pretty soon you're still increasing the debt.
00:46:23.000 It was going to happen.
00:46:24.000 I don't like it either.
00:46:25.000 It was going to happen.
00:46:25.000 It was going to happen.
00:46:26.000 Yes.
00:46:27.000 And you are not going to have border funding, and you are going to have the continued infiltration to whatever extent you think it was happening.
00:46:34.000 At our southern border.
00:46:35.000 Which isn't that one of the sticking points that they've said is that we haven't built enough of the wall?
00:46:39.000 Correct.
00:46:39.000 But then pointed back, we got the money and the big beautiful bill.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, not if Massey had his way.
00:46:43.000 Right. 0.80
00:46:44.000 It would be a much worse situation for no gain.
00:46:48.000 And the reason we go through this, I want to make it clear, and I think you would agree with me, is because I like to crap on people like Dave Smith and the libertarians for Massey, the Twitter accounts that are kind of pushing this narrative.
00:46:59.000 But it's not because people that are Massey voters, I want to gloat in their face.
00:47:02.000 No, not at all.
00:47:03.000 I think they have a lot of good points on why they support Massey.
00:47:05.000 The reason I want to go through this and you want to go through this.
00:47:07.000 It is to say, here's our justification.
00:47:10.000 Here's our validation for believing the way that we do.
00:47:13.000 You can take that or you can leave that.
00:47:14.000 We just want you to hear both sides of the story. 0.96
00:47:16.000 Not that we think you're stupid or that we're always correct, but this is our interpretation and take that and compare it to what you've already learned and see where you end up. 0.92
00:47:25.000 Maybe you end up with us, maybe you don't. 0.99
00:47:27.000 But this is not to talk down to anybody that voted for Thomas Massey.
00:47:30.000 Right.
00:47:30.000 My passion is in the why.
00:47:32.000 My passion for this story is why did Thomas Massey lose?
00:47:36.000 And I don't dislike people like Thomas Massey in general.
00:47:40.000 I just don't think they're very effective.
00:47:41.000 So, if you want to be more effective, you have to listen and go through this instead of just blaming Israel and blaming the Epstein files, which brings us to he insinuated that Donald Trump was protecting pedophiles and that's why the files weren't released.
00:47:56.000 How do you explain to voters why the president is fighting your discharge petition or fighting the release of these documents from the Justice Department?
00:48:04.000 Well, you know, I vote with my party 91% of the time, which means I agree with the.
00:48:09.000 Have agreed with the president 91% of the time.
00:48:12.000 But when they're protecting pedophiles, when they are blowing our budget, when they are starting wars overseas, I'm sorry, I can't go along with that.
00:48:22.000 Now, that seems like a principled stand, and I would say that it is in some ways.
00:48:26.000 We don't like the fact that everybody agrees pedophiles are bad, right?
00:48:29.000 I don't care who they are, by the way.
00:48:31.000 I don't care how powerful, who they are, what kind of leverage they have over this country.
00:48:36.000 You know, bring them down though the heavens may fall, is my opinion.
00:48:39.000 Fine.
00:48:40.000 Fantastic.
00:48:40.000 Go for that.
00:48:42.000 But We looked and I don't really know that we found anything at all throughout the Biden term that he mentioned about releasing the Epstein files, at least not with the same vigor.
00:48:55.000 If you can find it, please let me know.
00:48:56.000 It was not an issue for him.
00:48:56.000 I'd like to know.
00:48:58.000 It didn't seem like it was that big of an issue.
00:49:00.000 And so my question is why now?
00:49:02.000 Why now, when the president of the United States is actually trying to do that?
00:49:06.000 It seems by all accounts that he was trying to do that.
00:49:07.000 He talked about it in the lead up to his election.
00:49:10.000 It was one of the things that people say he betrayed them on.
00:49:12.000 But it wasn't even, this was not a major issue.
00:49:14.000 Campaign promise of Donald Trump.
00:49:15.000 Yeah, we all wanted them released, but they didn't campaign on, I'm going to do this.
00:49:19.000 They asked him if he'd release him.
00:49:20.000 He goes, Yeah, I think I would.
00:49:21.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:49:22.000 So, where was this under Joe Biden?
00:49:25.000 Is my point.
00:49:26.000 That's what we want to see that consistency.
00:49:28.000 You can still have a problem like we do with the rollout and with the lack of transparency and not really seeming to get to the bottom of this and people not being put in jail.
00:49:36.000 I'm with you 100%.
00:49:39.000 But when you go to, well, he's just protecting pedophiles. 0.75
00:49:44.000 Okay, you're probably going to piss off a lot of people. 0.93
00:49:46.000 Now, you on.
00:49:47.000 On X, you'll probably seem like you're in the majority.
00:49:51.000 But X isn't reality, it seems.
00:49:53.000 Because Thomas Massey's incredibly popular on X, but he lost the vote.
00:49:57.000 Fishback is incredibly popular on X. He's probably going to lose to Byron Donald.
00:50:02.000 I think he's in third place, too.
00:50:03.000 Yeah, I don't think it's particularly close right now.
00:50:06.000 I don't know.
00:50:07.000 Things can change.
00:50:08.000 But then there's another thing sanctions.
00:50:08.000 We'll see what happens.
00:50:11.000 He's also against all sanctions on any foreign nations.
00:50:17.000 I don't understand that.
00:50:19.000 It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to be against sanctions on all nations.
00:50:24.000 That's one of the ways that we leverage other people so that we don't have to go to war because that's one of the other things that you don't like.
00:50:31.000 Administration starting war.
00:50:32.000 Fantastic.
00:50:33.000 We're right there with you.
00:50:36.000 We don't love administrations starting wars at all.
00:50:39.000 And again, his argument for this is that sanctions lead to war.
00:50:42.000 Well, again, it's not a one size fits all.
00:50:44.000 Sometimes in certain conditions, maybe they could.
00:50:46.000 In others, you need to look at the facts on the ground and decide if they're applicable in that situation.
00:50:51.000 He doesn't do that.
00:50:52.000 Everything is my way or the highway, regardless of anything.
00:50:55.000 It's a red line stance.
00:50:56.000 It's a red line stance, which is really great in theory.
00:50:59.000 But once you get into the real world, you realize everybody answered to someone.
00:51:02.000 And if you want to get anything done, you do have to look at the pragmatic reality of how my stance will work in the moment.
00:51:12.000 Yeah.
00:51:12.000 And if it's something like, you know, abortion or if it's something like the death penalty, you know, I get it.
00:51:19.000 Yeah.
00:51:19.000 Those are principle stances you can absolutely have.
00:51:22.000 And even if you're not going to lose, you can't give up your moral stance.
00:51:26.000 Like your good relationship with God, for lack of a better term, to compromise on that.
00:51:31.000 But things like debt increases or things like sanctions are not those.
00:51:35.000 It's a way to grandstand and pretend that you have these amazing values that make you better than the rest of the people.
00:51:41.000 Especially when you don't have a plan or a coalition to execute that plan.
00:51:44.000 It's the same argument that we've had about voting Democrat, and we'll get to that in a minute.
00:51:47.000 There's no plan, there's no coalition.
00:51:49.000 There could have been.
00:51:51.000 Now, let's talk about Israel because that does factor into this.
00:51:55.000 And I understand that.
00:51:56.000 I get it.
00:51:57.000 It makes a lot of sense to me that people are pissed off about that.
00:52:00.000 It's not a non-factor at all.
00:52:01.000 100%.
00:52:02.000 Right.
00:52:02.000 So, I'm not saying that.
00:52:04.000 He's voted against foreign aid to Israel.
00:52:07.000 He's also moved to force AIPAC to register under Farah.
00:52:10.000 Guess what? 0.74
00:52:10.000 We agree with both of those. 0.74
00:52:11.000 Yeah, two great things.
00:52:13.000 Fantastic.
00:52:14.000 See the coalition building?
00:52:15.000 I don't know that I would have said that a couple of years ago.
00:52:18.000 Probably because I wasn't paying as much attention to the issue as I should have been.
00:52:22.000 But throughout this entire conversation, I got educated on exactly what AIPAC was.
00:52:27.000 I got educated on exactly how it works.
00:52:29.000 I got educated on how much money we actually send to Israel.
00:52:32.000 And I got educated on what Israel was doing that maybe I had a problem with.
00:52:36.000 Isn't that what we were supposed to be doing here?
00:52:39.000 You know how many people that are like me that got educated on some of these issues and would have been right there with you on a coalition to force AIPAC to register under Farah and stop giving money to Israel?
00:52:53.000 But when you go so far as it's always Israel, it's Israel, everything all the time, you start to lose people because they're like, wait a minute, that's not, that doesn't seem real.
00:53:01.000 That seems like this guy is just kind of coming up with these crazy conspiracy theories.
00:53:05.000 Or at the very least, he's saying things that he can't.
00:53:07.000 Provide evidence on.
00:53:07.000 And I don't really know what to think because I've got a family and I've got a job and I don't really have a ton of time to pay attention to politics.
00:53:13.000 I see some headlines.
00:53:14.000 I listen to the radio for a few minutes on the way to where I don't know what he's doing.
00:53:17.000 That's not how you build a coalition.
00:53:19.000 And it's proving to be true in reality.
00:53:22.000 But one of the things pro Israel interest groups did spend against him, obviously, they spent money for his opponent, Galrain, about $15 million.
00:53:29.000 Now, I've seen numbers as high as $33 million.
00:53:32.000 I don't know if that's a combined total ad spend.
00:53:34.000 And I believe that AIPAC itself was about $7 million and then pro Israel donors into other PACs like Addison was about $9.
00:53:41.000 Okay.
00:53:42.000 Still a lot of money going into it, whatever the number is.
00:53:44.000 Everything was from pro Israel group.
00:53:45.000 So it's a lot.
00:53:46.000 A lot of money.
00:53:47.000 A lot of money came from outside of this district because that typically happens when it's the premier race for that cycle.
00:53:54.000 And this was.
00:53:55.000 Right.
00:53:56.000 And I understand that normally you got to get down to the wire and actually do it.
00:53:59.000 But when it's a district that's going to vote Republican, whoever wins the primary is probably going to win the election.
00:54:05.000 That's why money went into this.
00:54:07.000 But Massey doesn't have the corner on this issue.
00:54:12.000 His biggest donor was Jeff Yass, the founder of SIG Susquehanna.
00:54:12.000 Right.
00:54:15.000 1.4 million plus in donations through a PAC.
00:54:18.000 He's Jewish and he's funded a conservative Israeli think tank.
00:54:24.000 That think tank is involved in American politics in addition to Israeli politics. 0.55
00:54:28.000 The exact thing that Massey's saying he doesn't want in this race, that guy came out in support of him.
00:54:34.000 Now, we don't like that guy for other reasons related to TikTok and his $35 billion plus position in ByteDance, the parent company.
00:54:43.000 The issues that we have here are on both sides.
00:54:46.000 Take a hard look at this.
00:54:49.000 But here's the solution that's being presented by Massey supporters right now in light of his loss.
00:54:57.000 Vote Democrat in 2026.
00:55:01.000 Here's a quote from Libertarians for Massey on X Vote Democrat in midterms.
00:55:08.000 Destroy MAGA.
00:55:09.000 The big libertarian case for Democrats winning the House is the midterms isn't about, I'm sorry, in the midterms isn't about agreeing with their platform.
00:55:17.000 Okay.
00:55:18.000 It's about the bigger picture.
00:55:19.000 If Republicans keep the House, the current neocon warmongering and big spinning agenda will have a completely clear runway.
00:55:25.000 But if Democrats win, the federal government hits a brick wall.
00:55:29.000 They will paralyze the administration, tie up the cabinet in constant investigations, hopefully imprison some monsters like Hegseth, and slow the legislative machine to a crawl.
00:55:43.000 Really?
00:55:45.000 Vote Democrat.
00:55:46.000 That's the best you got. 0.55
00:55:48.000 We have a system.
00:55:49.000 To put Hegseth in prison.
00:55:50.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.
00:55:51.000 Monsters like Hegseth.
00:55:53.000 We have a system.
00:55:55.000 That you can participate in, and you can put forward the very best candidate that you can find.
00:56:00.000 If you're so right, and if you're so pure that everybody, once they see the facts, will support your guy both financially and at the ballot box, then you should be able to win a race.
00:56:00.000 And guess what?
00:56:16.000 But if every time you lose, you blame Israel, you blame the swamp, you blame the lack of the release of the Epstein files, which seems like the thing that we're going to hear.
00:56:29.000 Over and over and over, instead of taking a hard look at the positions and what potentially started this problem for Thomas Massey and others like him in the first place, you will miss the lesson that hopefully will get your candidates in position to actually win, form a coalition, and get something done.
00:56:51.000 I want things to change as well.
00:56:54.000 I'm not a go along to get along kind of guy.
00:56:57.000 We call out President Trump when he screws up.
00:56:59.000 We've done it.
00:57:00.000 We have a good Trump, bad Trump segment for crying out loud.
00:57:03.000 Whenever we hear Ted Cruz open his mouth on Israel, I recoil.
00:57:08.000 I don't care what he says about that.
00:57:11.000 I think he should be a senator that represents Texans and doesn't give a damn about the interests of Israel, unlike what he said he was going to the Senate to do.
00:57:18.000 That pisses me off.
00:57:20.000 But you can't just go Israel bad every single time.
00:57:24.000 You've got to have a plan, you've got to have a purpose in what you're doing.
00:57:28.000 Stop with these supposed victories for show.
00:57:32.000 Well, we didn't win, but we took a principled stance, and Joe Kent resigned.
00:57:37.000 What did that do?
00:57:39.000 It took the guy that was the chief of counterterrorism in the United States, some would say an important position, and put him on the sideline.
00:57:45.000 But hey, he can go do podcasts.
00:57:48.000 And he can go on Sean Ryan and talk about how he was a principled man and how this shouldn't have happened.
00:57:53.000 What did that change?
00:57:57.000 I don't think it changed a lot at all.
00:57:59.000 And if you keep having that strategy, you will never change anything.
00:58:02.000 Work within the system that you have, put people into these primaries that can win.
00:58:07.000 Even Nick didn't like the opponent that Vivek Ramaswamy had. 1.00
00:58:11.000 And he's Indian for crying out loud. 1.00
00:58:13.000 That should have been an easy one for you guys. 1.00
00:58:16.000 Change your strategy.
00:58:18.000 Stop blaming all of these other factors that are having some effect.
00:58:24.000 Again, to repeat, but look at the biggest one of all inconsistencies on how he was voting. 0.95
00:58:31.000 And he went against Trump on something that was really stupid to go against Trump on, something that we needed to get done, that was going to have to get done in the first place. 0.97
00:58:39.000 And you didn't have a plan. 0.98
00:58:40.000 Show me the bill from two years ago.
00:58:42.000 Show me the plan in the coalition from two years ago to make sure that the United States would not reach the debt limit, and then we can have a conversation about it.
00:58:49.000 Well, outside of that, I don't want to hear it.
00:58:52.000 Maybe don't insinuate that the president is or is protecting pedophiles with zero evidence to back up those claims.
00:59:00.000 Because if you don't want the ire of the executive branch on you, maybe you should not have done that.
00:59:05.000 What do you want to cite?
00:59:06.000 Unsubstantiated FBI reports that the Biden administration looked at and said these are the most incredible, incredible?
00:59:12.000 What is it?
00:59:13.000 Uncredible.
00:59:13.000 Incredible?
00:59:14.000 Yeah.
00:59:14.000 Incredulous testimony that we've ever seen.
00:59:16.000 Yes.
00:59:18.000 And smear the names of other people that are actually.
00:59:20.000 Yeah, he went to the floor, by the way, and read names out, and it was four random people that just happened to be in a lineup that he doxed essentially.
00:59:26.000 And it's like, these people go after them.
00:59:27.000 It's like, okay, that's fantastic.
00:59:29.000 That's some morally reprehensible stuff that he did with that.
00:59:29.000 Do you see what happens?
00:59:32.000 Yeah.
00:59:32.000 And I do think, again, I'm not going to come at any Thomas Massey voter because I understand the libertarian draw.
00:59:38.000 I completely do.
00:59:39.000 I don't agree with it, but I get it. 0.99
00:59:42.000 Thomas Massey is not a good dude, and he's a dork.
00:59:46.000 And so if they want to run him in 2028, good luck with that. 0.90
00:59:49.000 Yeah.
00:59:51.000 Do your best, I suppose.
00:59:52.000 Well, so, and that's my final point, and then we'll get moving here.
00:59:55.000 Is that do you think that in 2028, in two years' time, that age demographic thing that you guys are banking on, the young people voted for these guys?
01:00:02.000 So, of course, later, well, one, we already disabused you of that notion.
01:00:05.000 But two, you think it's going to be in two years?
01:00:08.000 Not going to happen.
01:00:09.000 Do you think it's going to be in six?
01:00:11.000 Probably not going to happen either.
01:00:12.000 They'll probably still be really close to in that group, and it's going to be dominated by the 45 to 65 plus crowd.
01:00:18.000 I think it's 70 plus percent of the voting block is in that age group.
01:00:22.000 How long are you going to wait?
01:00:24.000 Or we can just build a coalition together.
01:00:26.000 And AI is going to make everyone live forever.
01:00:27.000 That's true.
01:00:29.000 Vote Republican that you don't like forever.
01:00:32.000 I want change.
01:00:33.000 I'm pissed off that we don't get change as often.
01:00:36.000 But I hate this strategy of vote Democrat because they're the lesser of two evils.
01:00:40.000 You haven't been paying attention.
01:00:44.000 They are not the lesser of two evils.
01:00:46.000 If there are two evils, they are the most evil possible that you could put on the ballot.
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01:02:28.000 You should, yeah.
01:02:28.000 I'm trying.
01:02:30.000 When you sign up, after I think about a week, you get an email.
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01:02:44.000 But if you're not a Rumble Premium member, you're going to continue on the Rumble lineup to Haley Coronia and go there and you can just keep watching.
01:02:51.000 You don't have to do anything, but do us a favor.
01:02:53.000 You know, give us a shot.
01:02:55.000 You think I get admonished out here?
01:02:55.000 You think it's funny here?
01:02:58.000 I get admonished more back there.
01:03:00.000 And if that's what you want to see in Rumble Premium, you know.
01:03:03.000 Admonish.
01:03:05.000 That's what you want to see later.
01:03:06.000 I don't know. 0.95
01:03:08.000 What sick, sadistic mindset this chat has, but it does. 0.79
01:03:12.000 It wants to see me admonished prior to the show even starting, I guess, because I woke up and I breathed air. 0.94
01:03:18.000 Oh, that's because you said Karania wrong.
01:03:22.000 Karania?
01:03:24.000 Nope.
01:03:24.000 Nope.
01:03:25.000 That's how he says it every single time.
01:03:26.000 Are you telling me?
01:03:27.000 That's how Steven says it, but this is Steven's show.
01:03:29.000 What's his.
01:03:31.000 That can't be a thing.
01:03:33.000 No, I know it's a show.
01:03:34.000 I'm not saying that.
01:03:35.000 I'm saying. 0.56
01:03:37.000 Is it Karania or is it Karania?
01:03:37.000 What?
01:03:39.000 Karania.
01:03:40.000 No.
01:03:41.000 Yeah.
01:03:42.000 Haley.
01:03:46.000 Admonish.
01:03:47.000 Yeah.
01:03:49.000 I don't know.
01:03:49.000 I'd admonish Haley at this point.
01:03:52.000 We can't do that, though.
01:03:53.000 We don't really have the capability.
01:03:55.000 Haley Caronia, not Caronia. 1.00
01:03:58.000 That other hoodlum over there. 1.00
01:04:00.000 Okay. 0.83
01:04:02.000 Sorry about that.
01:04:03.000 I didn't mean to throw you off, man.
01:04:05.000 You did.
01:04:06.000 I mean, now I just.
01:04:06.000 I didn't mean to just take this train off the rails.
01:04:11.000 Ha