Geraldine and Vanessa are joined by comedian Josh Feierstein ( ) to talk about the start of the month of American Indian Heritage Month, the Israeli army's land invasion of Gaza, and a new segment called "Smells Like Two Spirit."
00:06:14.000And then we're going to get into a couple of new stories.
00:06:17.000Did the IDF really bomb a refugee camp?
00:06:20.000Because Israel now has started a land invasion of Gaza, which is why we'll actually have a military expert on the show, John Spencer, later on.
00:06:47.000So here, look, before I move on, my question to you is, there's a lot of misinformation, and it's not lost on me, on both sides regarding Israel and Palestine.
00:06:55.000Now, it doesn't change the fact that I want every single last member of Hamas to die horrible deaths, okay?
00:07:01.000I also understand that there are both sides here kind of reporting some updates or death counts that are really, at the very least, hard to verify.
00:09:36.000I just got hit with this tool man toy and everybody's like, oh no, you gotta go American Indian Heritage Month and transgender, but whatever.
00:12:10.000So here's a Muslim woman before we move on, and we have, I'm sure Mr. Spencer will love this as his introduction, John Spencer.
00:12:18.000And I'm looking forward to you actually doing the interview with him, you know, because you both, by the way, thank you for your service, Josh, for your service.
00:12:22.000Yeah, I'm going to learn a lot from him.
00:12:23.000Pops Crowder, you didn't thank him for his service.
00:12:45.000When my dad approved of our marriage, he actually told my husband that he could see my face once before marriage, so why did you reject it?
00:12:50.000One reason is I knew you from working together for several years.
00:15:19.000It's the same people that will support this, because they're the most oppressed, the same people that if they saw a conservative Christian white man talking to his wife a certain way, they'll go, wow, what a piece of crap.
00:16:20.000It was the sound of an airstrike flying into Gaza.
00:16:25.000Alright, let's move on to Elon Musk was on with Joe Rogan yesterday and this is always, you know, it's always interesting to see Elon Musk.
00:16:34.000Some people say, I think he's disingenuous because he's come to this later life.
00:16:51.000I think that he was somewhat fiscally conservative, and then all of his leftist friends turned on him.
00:16:57.000And then he realized that these people weren't his friends, and you saw him become more right-wing, more conservative.
00:17:03.000You comment below, because I see a lot of criticism toward Elon Musk.
00:17:07.000But I think that he has some people in charge of Twitter sometimes who aren't necessarily following out his prescriptions, as seen by many people here at the Light Earth Crowder crew who have been suspended repeatedly.
00:17:19.000Yeah, well, Yakuza, you know, you may have committed crimes.
00:18:23.000Well, you could do that and you don't have to run a multi billion dollar enterprise.
00:18:27.000You know, I've always said with this, this is a business that we run, unlike a lot of conservative media entities, it's not a, Non-profit, and by the way, we're funded by viewers like you.
00:18:34.000Do consider joining Mug Club at lodderworthcreditor.com slash Mug Club.
00:19:14.000And as far as we know, it may still be losing money.
00:19:17.000So, he talked about, too, how the left was using Twitter to spread his message.
00:19:21.000So, the point is, I believe what he's saying there, because I look at what he risked.
00:19:24.000When people say, I'm trying to help, I want to do better for the world, and all they do is line their pockets, like a perfect example, Al Gore.
00:19:30.000Al Gore sitting on the board at Apple, he only makes money off of that if, you know, if climate change is not the existential threat that you believe it to be, Al Gore's out of a job.
00:19:40.000Sort of like if racism were to go away, which it largely has in the Western world, Al Sharpton is out of a job.
00:19:46.000Also, if anyone requires someone who's literate with Prompter, Al Sharpton's out of a job.
00:20:06.000Twitter X. If I say Twitter X, just guys, you can comment below.
00:20:08.000You can admonish me yourself because I'm probably going to go back and forth here.
00:20:13.000He also talked about how, and having spent time of course in California, I thought this was pretty illuminating, how Twitter was exporting San Francisco's mind virus to the world.
00:20:24.000If you've walked around downtown San Francisco, right near the ex-FKA Twitter headquarters, it's a zombie apocalypse.
00:20:31.000Now, you have to say, well, what philosophy led to that outcome?
00:20:34.000And that philosophy was being piped to Earth.
00:20:37.000You know, a philosophy that would be ordinarily quite niche and geographically constrained, so that sort of the fallout area would be limited, was effectively given an information A weapon.
00:20:53.000An information technology weapon to propagate what is essentially a mind virus to the rest of Earth.
00:21:01.000And the outcome of that mind virus is very clear if you walk around the streets of downtown San Francisco.
00:23:37.000Trump's sway with the black community, there's a lot of change happening.
00:23:40.000That's such a generational thing to be complimented by insulting them.
00:23:46.000I think it's so sweet that you're now acting like a grown-up.
00:23:53.000You know the classic Dennis Miller line, if you've reached a certain age and you haven't thought about such things, then you've lived an asshole's life.
00:24:02.000And you know, I'm glad these guys have come around.
00:24:04.000They're sitting there across from one another.
00:24:06.000We don't have to agree on everything, but I think free speech is a big one, and certainly people who can be in positions of control.
00:24:12.000And this is also, by the way, why I want to go back, remind me to go back to the idea of nonprofits and 501c3s, because I know we have Mr. Spencer on, so we might have to clip this along.
00:24:20.000So Elon also went on to say that under Jack Dorsey, Twitter, which is now X, was functioning effectively as a state publication.
00:24:48.000That was one of the things about the old Twitter was the propaganda and the adherence to whatever the CDC was saying and the dismissing of legitimate scientists.
00:25:03.000Now people will say, and this is why, just so you know, Joe Rogan is the biggest show on earth.
00:25:08.000So this is not at all to diminish what he does, but this is why, with this program, we make all the references publicly available, because these two people are having a conversation, an organic conversation, and that's great, that's important.
00:25:20.000We also want to make sure that you are prepared when the media tries to fact-check and say, that's not true, that you have the references, a bibliography, right in front of you.
00:25:27.000That's why we put the link in the description, and you can see all of the references at loudearthcracker.com, because they just discussed those.
00:25:33.000Now, I'm going to tell you, that's correct.
00:25:35.000The media is going to try and say, once it picks up steam, that it's not.
00:25:38.000That's why we make the references available.
00:25:42.000The Twitter files verified, by the way, that the FBI colluded with Twitter to suppress stories specifically at the Biden administration's request.
00:25:49.000Most notable, the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:25:51.000So when that came out, we're going, why was this throttled on Twitter?
00:25:57.000And of course, they never reinstated it, which affected the entire outcome of the election, by the way.
00:26:02.000If that story was allowed on social media, everywhere, Meta, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all those places, if that was allowed to proliferate just organically as any other story, the election is different regardless of changing the election laws, regardless of mass mail-in voting.
00:26:17.000Joe Biden doesn't win a single swing state.
00:26:49.000He also makes the claim that this was the result of liberals suppressing anything to the right of their beliefs, also in collusion with government.
00:26:58.000Basically, oppression of any views that would even, I would say, be considered middle of the road.
00:28:12.000Okay, you talk about not just, you know, at this point, not just talking about weed, black tar heroin being legal, you know, like in your home state.
00:28:19.000Ideology, which includes hormone therapy and gender surgeries for kids, right?
00:28:24.000Cities and states becoming safe havens for trans minors.
00:28:28.000And by the way, teachers hiding children from their parents if they want to go If they want to undergo sex reassignment surgery, let's call it what it is.
00:28:40.000Or if they want to go to a puberty-blocking clinic.
00:28:43.000I don't know if it's called a puberty-blocking clinic.
00:29:46.000Tired and just like when he's talking about the end of civilization and seeing a precursor in San Francisco, it just seems like he's so distraught.
00:30:03.000He leaves trails of breadcrumbs if you see things that he retweets.
00:30:06.000For example, things like, you know, cabals of pedophiles.
00:30:08.000Now, that doesn't mean that we're talking about some Satan-worshipping spirit.
00:30:11.000What he's talking about is people in positions of power who have a vested interest, for example, in allowing open borders because of sex trafficking in which they partake.
00:31:16.000No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Fine lady.
00:31:36.000So we went from anti-gay marriage Barack Obama to puberty blockers for children, and then really, you've been with us the last two years, sex reassignment surgery for children, and hiding the children from the parents if they don't want their children to undergo sex reassignment surgery.
00:31:51.000Oh, and by the way, parental rights are just a, it's a byproduct, it's a construct of white supremacy.
00:33:23.000You're the one who dove into an empty pool.
00:33:32.000So Musk also went on to say, and this is kind of the macro picture, that under his ownership, X, he laid out a vision, which is good.
00:33:39.000You have people who just complain and don't lay out a vision for the way things should be, and I don't necessarily know that this is detailed, but I think it's a good start.
00:33:45.000He said X, Twitter, should represent the collective consciousness of humanity.
00:36:14.000So my question to you is, look, let me ask you this.
00:36:16.000Seeing where he lines up, Do you think that Twitter has improved under Musk's watch, and how far of a way do you think that it has to go?
00:36:25.000How confident are you with him at the tiller of the ship?
00:36:27.000I think that this shows, this does show, this was more than just, I'm a conservative, you know, delivering a red meat line to a camera for a few clicks on Instagram.
00:36:36.000This was a guy, I do think, who was really kind of baring his soul, and I think a development.
00:36:40.000It doesn't mean that Twitter's, I think that pragmatically Twitter is a little bit rougher in some ways.
00:36:44.000I don't think he's really fixed the bots.
00:36:45.000I think the trending issues probably have a long way to go.
00:36:48.000But the heart of it, of wanting free speech to exist there, is a move in the right direction.
00:36:52.000There are only two places really doing that right now.
00:37:54.000When you're working on the amount of precedent that there is with Israel, with Gaza, with the Palestinians, with Hamas, I don't foresee this ending in a way that will feel very final.
00:38:58.000So if you believe that you're in a conflict that will never end, the goal is to ensure that the enemy It's like saying, yeah, I know this is a tyrant.
00:39:15.000I know it's a tyrant who's going to take everything anyway, so let me give him some to start.
00:39:21.000Imagine if Winston Churchill said, you cannot negotiate with a tiger when your head is in its mouth, so just give him everything!
00:39:33.000You can say it's never going to end, therefore roll over, or it's never going to end, so you accept the violence.
00:39:38.000Wherever you line up on this conflict, I agree, it's never going to end.
00:39:42.000I think a silly, a silly thought process to develop from that, I think a silly conclusion to which you come is, therefore, let's try and have peace.
00:39:53.000You just said you can't give peace a chance.
00:42:46.000Okay, so that's probably what you've heard to begin with.
00:42:48.000Now let me ask you this, in your mind right now, take just a second, if you're on audio actually, take a second in your mind's eye, I want you to picture what a refugee camp looks like.
00:44:00.000And dropped a bomb there, attempting to kill this Hamas commander, knowing that a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children, presumably would be killed.
00:44:44.000And I do get that not every single person in Gaza or Palestinian is supportive of Hamas or wants to eradicate all the Jews as their representatives who were elected do.
00:44:57.000But it also does matter when you have one side using human beings as human shields.
00:45:02.000Again, you think of a refugee camp, you don't think of a major city with shops and bodegas and convenience stores and whatever their equivalent written in that Arabic to Quick Trip is.
00:45:23.000They were all flooded with videos immediately claiming that the IDF indiscriminately murdered, some of them claiming deliberately murdered, innocent women and children.
00:46:56.000So, Piers Morgan also forcefully condemned this action, writing, Israel deliberately bombing Gaza's largest refugee camp, even if a Hamas commander was there, is outrageous and indefensible.
00:47:48.000When the IDF comes knocking on your door, you're going to know who the real macho man is.
00:47:53.000All night, my boss was there, I was doing it, look, just to add some levity here, with my kids, and we were trick-or-treating, and I put it on, and I was doing it, and they loved it, then at one point I take off my glasses and I go, hey, it's Dada!
00:48:14.000Alright, I guess I'm not gonna have a voice tomorrow, gonna be hoarse, yeah!
00:48:19.000You were like getting into character all night yesterday.
00:48:22.000If I took it out, if I took anything off, like, no, no, no, Macho Man!
00:48:26.000One of the dads on one of the porches says, you keep that up, you'll talk to nobody tomorrow.
00:48:31.000That was a guy, he was drinking an IPA in his porch, yeah, cause he likes beer that tastes like soap, yeah, Macho Man doesn't like beer that tastes like soap, no, figuratively speaking.
00:48:43.000That's not your man being articulate, figuratively speaking.
00:48:48.000So the Jabali refugee camp established in 1948 after the Arab-Israeli war.
00:51:46.000Do you allow them to kill your women and children?
00:51:48.000Or do you go after the terrorists and, I'm sorry, but collateral damage unfortunately results with women and children because they're firing their rockets deliberately using women and children as human shields.
00:53:00.000It says, Gaza's internal tunnel network is reportedly even more complex than cross-border routes and involves multiple branches that run under refugee camps in Khan Yunis, Jabalia, other densely populated areas.
00:53:22.000Which means this has been going on since at least then, where it was not up for debate.
00:53:27.000Because you know Al Jazeera really wants to paint them in a more positive light.
00:53:31.000Here's a Hamas terrorist giving a Russia Today journalist, and by the way, just so you know, I'm glad that Rumble allows Russia Today to be on their platform.
00:53:42.000Because I want to hear what Hamas terrorists have to say.
00:53:45.000That's the beauty of freedom of speech.
00:53:46.000That's the beauty of being representative of all of humanity.
00:54:34.000If you think it's indefensible that any type of strike results in the death of women and children, that is a position to hold.
00:54:40.000I understand that there are people who believe that there should be no war ever whatsoever.
00:54:44.000However, what is not a defensible position is the idea that this was simply a refugee camp that was targeted with the intent of killing women and children.
00:55:04.000Could the IDF have said, nah, you know what, there's probably another way to extract this person, but who cares, at this point we're past hitting the F it button?
00:55:46.000I think we've reached... you know, there used to be... the argument used to be people believed that they weren't using women and children as human shields.
00:55:53.000And what I see from the left now, they're not denying it, but they're saying ceasefire anyway.
00:55:57.000You want to believe that that's not true.
00:55:59.000That's like... No, I think they're accepting the premise.
00:56:01.000I think they're going, sure, they use women and children as shields, and sure, they do do that, and they're terrorists, but you know what?
00:57:37.000Israel's military forces expanded its ground activities in Gaza as it prepares for a full-scale ground invasion.
00:57:45.000Fireballs lit up northern Gaza's blacked-out skyline.
00:57:50.000There are blasts rolling past seconds later.
00:57:54.000Israel's defense forces said fighter jets struck 150 targets underground, including Hamas's maze of hundreds of miles of tunnels, while columns of Israeli tanks rolled into the strip.
00:58:06.000Alright, so you guys have probably been following this, you know that this has been going on for about four days, and of course not everyone has supported the ground invasion, and that's an opinion that people, of course, can hold that's valid.
00:58:30.000That matches the description I just gave.
00:58:32.000If it is a massive ground invasion which puts civilian lives at risk, then I think that it is a mistake, and it is a mistake for Israel as well.
00:58:40.000Let's just think of how stupid those two paragraphs are.
00:58:43.000If it's aimed at terrorist groups that are totally identified, it is their choice.
00:58:48.000If it is a massive ground invasion which puts civilian lives at risk... Did you spot the stupid?
00:58:53.000What if it's aimed at terrorists who are easily identified behind the women and children human shield?
00:59:13.000I am a... Because it doesn't protect Israel in the long term, and because it is incompatible with the respect of civilians, of the humanitarian and national law, and the law of war, I believe this would be a mistake.
00:59:22.000We actually go now live to Macron's cabinet for commentary.
00:59:26.000I also looked with the member of the French Parliament on the question of modernity and culture, in particular.
01:00:34.000Now, the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres also called for a ceasefire.
01:00:41.000To ease epic suffering, make the delivery of aid easier and safer, and facilitate the release of hostages, I reiterate my appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.
01:00:54.000No, no, look, here's the thing, wherever you line up, You don't get to call for a ceasefire after the deliberate targeting of women and children to a record number.
01:03:09.000So here, and this is, sorry, because I wanted to go through this because our guest is waiting, but I really do want to get your perspective here to get a better idea of how a ground invasion might actually unfold, what the IDF soldiers can expect.
01:03:19.000We have our resident ranger here, Josh Fierstein.
01:04:13.000So I spent 25 years in the Army as an infantry soldier, both as a soldier and an officer, two combat deployments to Iraq, one in the invasion, and then one in 2008 during the height of basically sectarian violence in Baghdad.
01:04:28.000And then I went into basically academics after my career where I've been studying all urban warfare from the ancient warfare to today for over a decade and writing, have a podcast and Walking the ground.
01:05:01.000Well, it's hard to sort of parse, you know, reality from fiction right now, and I understand why people don't trust either side as far as the media.
01:05:08.000Josh, what would be, kind of, as someone who's been on the ground, what would be your main question as far as, I guess, what are the unknowns here?
01:05:17.000Well, for me, all my tours were in Afghanistan, and they were all after 2009 or later.
01:05:22.000So it's a lot different than what you did, Colonel.
01:05:25.000And going into Iraq and going through the invasion, I think we're kind of looking at a similar thing.
01:05:30.000At least from the outside, it appears to be a similar situation.
01:05:33.000And I'm kind of thinking, what would be Israel's ultimate goal in this ground invasion going into Gaza?
01:05:42.000Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
01:05:43.000I think it's actually pretty clear, despite some of the comments from the political leaders, from the military guys and analysts of these types of operations, it's very clear.
01:05:50.000Destroy Hamas' military capability so they can never do another October 7th 9-11 event or send another rocket towards Israel's civilians.
01:06:31.000Do you think there's no interest for Israel to rebuild anything after coming through or setting up a new government if they eradicate, er, eradicate?
01:07:20.000Every Hamas member surrenders, and there's a complete disarmament of Hamas military capability in Gaza, which is literally, you can see it from Israel.
01:07:30.000It's not like it's Some people have this ideal again, like you said about the refugee camp, which is just a classification in which you can get more aid from the United Nations.
01:07:44.000You have an ideal that Gaza is some faraway place from Israel.
01:07:47.000It's literally in eyesight and the rockets come and have come every day since October 7th out of Gaza heading towards an Israeli civilian site.
01:07:58.000It would be like being in Manhattan and having rockets being felled from Hoboken.
01:08:04.000When you say this, because it seems like there can be no, the idea of ceasefire just seems so silly considering what happened, right, in October, now we're in November, so back in October.
01:08:40.000Number one, it takes a long time to gather an army of this size, especially the way that Israel relies on their reserve force, right?
01:08:48.000Their bankers and everybody stops what they're doing and goes back to their units and forms up and gets all the tanks and all the bulldozers and everything in position.
01:08:57.000It isn't like they just planned this in the last two weeks either.
01:09:00.000They've had plans for decades for the possibility of this operation.
01:09:03.000And then, like you said, Israel started asking for evacuations, you can't demand evacuations, on October 7th.
01:09:11.000Especially in the Hamas strongholds, which is, if you look at, like you said, Jabala is in that northeastern sector of Gaza where IDF said from day one, this is where the majority of the combat is, please evacuate from these areas.
01:09:24.000And 800,000 supposedly have But that's another reason why you like the right thing to do, not even the legal requirement, right?
01:09:33.000doesn't call a building before we strike in any wars that I've ever been in.
01:09:36.000In that ability to attack a city, the right thing to do is provide time for all noncombatants, although Hamas doesn't wear a uniform, to get out of the cities.
01:10:12.000ships, as people think, like the carrier strike groups into the area to be able to stop somebody like Iran or Syria or something from getting involved, That takes time.
01:10:23.000Well, that's an important distinction because, look, I've said not one American soldier's life lost for the war between Israel and Hamas is my point of view, but I think that morally they need to be supported in defending themselves.
01:10:34.000That's very different, however, from, hey, look, let them duke it out.
01:10:39.000Iran, we've got our eye on you, right?
01:11:44.000But yeah, so these IDF soldiers going into Gaza, what does it look like for them?
01:11:53.000What kind of obstacles will they face?
01:11:55.000And how quickly do you think they can accomplish their objectives going into an urban warfare situation?
01:12:01.000And if I could add to that, I think for a layman, right, because a lot of people will say, hey, you know what, when people talk about the Second Amendment, the Taliban, right, these guys out there who are just basically using monkey bars and old AKs, they were able to hold off, in many ways, the strongest military that's ever existed, right, the American military.
01:12:17.000A big part of that was just home court advantage.
01:12:19.000How big of a role does that play here, because the home court advantage is these urban areas that are used in people as human shields?
01:12:28.000Yeah, I mean, I think there's a there's a kind of a bell's curve of scum on the earth and some use human shields, some don't.
01:12:34.000Hamas uses and builds all of its infrastructure for the sole purpose of restricting what IDF soldiers can do in accordance with the law of war because that a professional military with values, ethics, follows the law of war.
01:12:49.000And despite the two-sided conversation.
01:13:05.000They're going to try to fight asymmetrically, like hide in holes, hide in tunnels, pop up from hard buildings and use snipers.
01:13:13.000Use IEDs that are very familiar to U.S.
01:13:15.000soldiers and try to trick the IDF forces or pull them into the urban area where there's a lot of advantages from being able to pick which window you shoot from and surprise the IDF that has to move forward.
01:13:29.000Now, on the IDF side, it looks like a very slow, Deliberate clearing operation, but the IDF uniquely, again, are designed for this, right?
01:13:51.000And they prepared, they have unique bulldozers that we don't have that are two stories tall that can be remote controlled that will go forward into the urban area.
01:15:15.000To add to that question, do you think it's going to be less casualties or less destructive than bombing?
01:15:24.000Right, so actually this is the paradox why I tell people if you want to cause less destruction in urban areas you need a bulldozer and a tank.
01:15:31.000Because if not, if you don't have those, if you don't go into an urban area and you try to bomb it, one, there's never been in history that that achieves this level of mission.
01:15:40.000You don't, you can't even convince the enemy to give up by just straight bombing.
01:15:45.000And Hamas terrorists is willing to die and actually sacrifice all of their Palestinian civilians in Gaza for their cause, which is the destruction of Israel and all Jewish people.
01:15:58.000Again, there are legal requirements that must be taken by the IDF, like asking civilians to leave, like identifying only military targets.
01:16:07.000You can't shoot at a hospital, a mosque, anything like that, unless it's being used for military purposes.
01:16:13.000So this is the thing that people want to gloss over in the media is that the IDF have done Beyond requirements to get civilians out of the way, right?
01:16:24.000And that's why amazingly in Jabalo, after that strike, there's hundreds of military age males standing around the crater.
01:16:31.000Like that, that, that is just where you've been asked to leave for your own safety, for the safety of your families, if they're still there.
01:16:39.000So IDF actually does other things that we don't do again, calling buildings before they strike them, like calling everybody and sending everybody into building a text to include the enemy.
01:17:49.000And if you are watching right now, and we do have an open invitation to any Hamas representative, pro-Palestinian Hamas representative on this show to present their side of the issues.
01:17:58.000It's not going to be a Pierce Morgan situation.
01:18:01.000Uh, where we would like to, uh, keep people accountable.
01:18:03.000And, members of the IDF, I'd love to have a split screen with all of you.