Louder with Crowder - Media Lies About IDF Striking "Refugee Camp" & Did Elon Buy X To Save America?

00:00:00.000 Okay, here we go.

00:00:09.000 So you were saying we have, it's Native American History Month?

00:00:13.000 Yeah.

00:00:14.000 Oh.

00:00:15.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 It's American Indian Heritage Month.

00:00:20.000 American Indian Heritage Month?

00:00:21.000 Yeah, American Indian Heritage Month.

00:00:24.000 But then I was seeing another trend, which is the start of a month of Is it Gay Week? 0.95

00:00:30.000 No, that was last month.

00:00:32.000 It was LGBTQ Awareness Month.

00:00:35.000 This one is... Oh, it's Transgender Awareness Month? 0.97

00:00:40.000 Yes, yeah.

00:00:40.000 It was LGBTQ Appreciation Month, so it's... Okay, hold on a second.

00:00:43.000 I want to make sure.

00:00:43.000 So it's American Indian Heritage Month.

00:00:45.000 Yes.

00:00:46.000 Which I'm just... I didn't even know we were still... Are we still saying Indian?

00:00:48.000 Is it Indian? 0.91

00:00:50.000 American Indian Heritage and then Transgender Awareness Month.

00:00:54.000 Month.

00:00:55.000 Yes.

00:00:56.000 Yeah.

00:00:57.000 Okay, well, so I just want to make sure I get this right, folks, because we make all the references available.

00:01:00.000 But in honor of your guesses as good as mine, seems appropriate.

00:01:04.000 Let's, let's run a, let's run Smells Like Two-Spirit.

00:01:08.000 Yeah.

00:01:09.000 My flower is slow, my skin is thin.

00:01:38.000 White velvet, my deadly sin.

00:01:42.000 Excerpt is poor, I'm uninsured.

00:01:46.000 My children alone are so absurd.

00:01:52.000 Oh, so low, so low, so low, I'm so low, get low, get low Move slow, lay low, I'm being low, get low, get low, my bro

00:02:06.000 Trigger warning, what's my danger?

00:02:10.000 Hear us cry now, that offend us We want control, have some compassion

00:02:18.000 Hear us cry now, that offend us Hold the phone down, take the R.T.

00:02:26.000 It's my culture, I'll shake it all to shreds, yeah Hey, hey

00:02:39.000 www.djpain1beats.com Can we all put this to rest?

00:02:52.000 Your logic makes me feel the best.

00:02:55.000 You're one person, you're businessman.

00:03:00.000 My wife, my past, word is consent.

00:03:05.000 Let's hope that white nose falls Shallow the hole and no need to close

00:03:12.000 Born old, they know, hello, skid row Still no, no, no, no 0.78

00:03:19.000 Trigger warning, life's not dangerous Terrified now, that it's dangerous

00:03:27.000 We want control, that censorship Can we cry now?

00:03:33.000 You're my grown man TRIGGER WARNING!

00:03:40.000 WINGS ARE DANGEROUS!

00:03:47.000 HEAR US WHINE OUT!

00:03:53.000 THAT OFFENSIVE!

00:03:57.000 WE WANT CONTROL!

00:04:02.000 That's ambition, it's near it's prime now.

00:04:06.000 It's got a fantasy, homophobia, patriarchy.

00:04:12.000 You drink culture, that's the culture.

00:04:16.000 I'm offended.

00:04:38.000 Remember, none of this is possible without you.

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00:04:55.000 Do the strange animal, that's what I know. Do the strange animal, I got the ball.

00:05:22.000 Do the strange animal, I got the ball.

00:05:30.000 Alright, okay, I got that out of the way.

00:05:33.000 way.

00:05:35.000 Gerald is in Florida.

00:05:37.000 He's in Mar-a-Lago right now, so we have a little bit of a different Roundup.

00:05:41.000 By the way, I hope Pelosi's been using Roundup for a while.

00:05:45.000 That's how Nick DiPaolo starts his show.

00:05:49.000 How many of you hope Nancy Pelosi's been using Roundup in her garden for the last 40 years?

00:05:54.000 Roaring applause.

00:05:55.000 No, sometimes he walks half the room.

00:06:00.000 We have a lot to get to today.

00:06:01.000 Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan's Halloween special to talk about why he bought X and what he saw there.

00:06:07.000 So that's pretty important.

00:06:08.000 Some new updates on former Vice President Joe Biden's 82,000 emails.

00:06:12.000 Hint, it involves Hunter in Ukraine.

00:06:14.000 And then we're going to get into a couple of new stories.

00:06:17.000 Did the IDF really bomb a refugee camp?

00:06:20.000 Because Israel now has started a land invasion of Gaza, which is why we'll actually have a military expert on the show, John Spencer, later on.

00:06:28.000 We're actually replacing Gerald today, Josh Feierstein.

00:06:33.000 He's not in third chair.

00:06:34.000 We're going to have a segment, Josh Knows War, where you'll be conducting the interview, Josh.

00:06:38.000 Yeah, sounds fun.

00:06:39.000 And you're going to be in a Bricktown Comedy Club in Oklahoma City?

00:06:42.000 Yes, this Sunday I'm at Bricktown Comedy Club.

00:06:44.000 November 5th.

00:06:45.000 Sorry, I forgot the date.

00:06:47.000 I'm not good with dates.

00:06:47.000 So here, look, before I move on, my question to you is, there's a lot of misinformation, and it's not lost on me, on both sides regarding Israel and Palestine.

00:06:55.000 Now, it doesn't change the fact that I want every single last member of Hamas to die horrible deaths, okay? 0.95

00:07:01.000 I also understand that there are both sides here kind of reporting some updates or death counts that are really, at the very least, hard to verify.

00:07:08.000 So, genuine question to you.

00:07:10.000 Are there any publications, sources, outlets that you still trust to deliver accurate news?

00:07:15.000 Comment below.

00:07:17.000 I get it.

00:07:17.000 It's hard in the age of this is the information war age.

00:07:20.000 I mean, Alex Jones was right about a lot.

00:07:22.000 And we're going to dive right into it.

00:07:23.000 But in third chair, you hear this.

00:07:25.000 You know him.

00:07:25.000 You love him.

00:07:28.000 I descended from his loins.

00:07:29.000 That is...

00:07:31.000 Hops Crowder, how are you, sir?

00:07:33.000 That's such a great groove, though.

00:07:34.000 If we could just play that every once in a while.

00:07:35.000 Well, it's a song about impregnating women in clubs, so I don't know if you... I don't know if he knows the lyrics.

00:07:40.000 I don't know the words.

00:07:41.000 And before any of that, Josh, we were talking about this.

00:07:43.000 It's Transgender Awareness Month.

00:07:47.000 Is it just me?

00:07:48.000 Don't you feel like we've already had one?

00:07:49.000 Yeah, and also, we're aware.

00:07:52.000 Yes, exactly.

00:07:54.000 We can all tell.

00:07:55.000 I don't think we've ever been more aware of anything.

00:07:57.000 Like, kids in the 60s weren't more aware to not play with blasting caps.

00:08:02.000 Trans visibility.

00:08:03.000 Everybody wants to be seen.

00:08:04.000 Harry Potter cloak?

00:08:05.000 They want to be seen.

00:08:05.000 Yes.

00:08:06.000 We see you.

00:08:07.000 Yeah, no.

00:08:07.000 We see more than we'd like to.

00:08:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:10.000 Somebody could do some research, but I think June is their month.

00:08:12.000 That's pride.

00:08:14.000 That's pride.

00:08:14.000 That's a different thing.

00:08:15.000 Yeah.

00:08:16.000 Trans visibility month, where now it's like the roles are reversed.

00:08:19.000 That's the macro, now this is the... We all have to show our gratitude.

00:08:22.000 Yeah, no.

00:08:23.000 You gotta thank them for their transness.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, thank them for their courage.

00:08:27.000 Yes, thank you.

00:08:28.000 Remember wearing that dress with those shoes?

00:08:31.000 I know.

00:08:32.000 I took a risk.

00:08:34.000 Now I know exactly how they feel in the West Bank.

00:08:38.000 I have to shave every day.

00:08:40.000 Speaking of West Bank, your left is kind of banking.

00:08:43.000 It's banking left a little bit.

00:08:45.000 Joe Louis didn't really appreciate Gaye Williams' costume yesterday.

00:08:49.000 Oh no, he didn't?

00:08:51.000 He did not want to see him.

00:08:52.000 He took a wide swath around him.

00:08:53.000 No, exactly.

00:08:54.000 Very odd.

00:08:56.000 Which, by the way, that's a great litmus test because he's colorblind. 1.00

00:09:04.000 All he saw was the weird gay crap. 1.00

00:09:06.000 He's just got a good judge of character. 1.00

00:09:07.000 Yeah, he's just a good judge of character.

00:09:09.000 How many months?

00:09:10.000 We have four months now.

00:09:11.000 How many months for the wound to heal, okay?

00:09:13.000 I think it's a four month recovery.

00:09:18.000 My preferred friction month.

00:09:22.000 Hey, you saw the ride, you bought a ticket anyway.

00:09:24.000 You know what?

00:09:25.000 If you're watching on YouTube, you should be watching on Rumble.

00:09:28.000 So at some point today, if you haven't already, you're going to see this.

00:09:33.000 Just head on over to Rumble, okay?

00:09:35.000 What the hell's the difference? 0.69

00:09:36.000 I just got hit with this tool man toy and everybody's like, oh no, you gotta go American Indian Heritage Month and transgender, but whatever. 1.00

00:09:42.000 Okay.

00:09:42.000 Also, it's a shame that they're, you know, minimizing the Native American Month or Indian American- Yeah, they have to split it.

00:09:49.000 I can't remember exactly what it's called.

00:09:50.000 You know somebody's capitalizing- Aborigines. 0.98

00:09:52.000 Oh yeah.

00:09:53.000 Oh yeah, there's one Native trans person that's just like, it's November! 1.00

00:09:57.000 Hey! 0.99

00:09:58.000 I'm called One Who Splits Snatch.

00:10:01.000 Hi, hi, hi.

00:10:03.000 Do you think all the trans people are participating in No Shave November?

00:10:09.000 I hope so.

00:10:10.000 Native Americans certainly are, because they're a hairless people. 1.00

00:10:13.000 Yeah.

00:10:14.000 Designed perfectly by God.

00:10:15.000 That's why.

00:10:16.000 They call me Big Eunice, Little Gash.

00:10:29.000 That's my native name.

00:10:30.000 They call me Squats with...

00:10:32.000 EVERY...

00:10:34.000 ...

00:11:26.000 Put it backwards.

00:11:28.000 Oh, he looks the same now, only just completely white.

00:11:30.000 Just white.

00:11:30.000 He looks like Santa Durst.

00:11:36.000 What do you want for Christmas?

00:11:37.000 I want the nookie! 0.98

00:11:42.000 Santa's gonna come down your chimney.

00:11:43.000 He's gonna be rollin', rollin', rollin'.

00:11:46.000 Alright.

00:11:46.000 It's just one of those days!

00:11:48.000 Oh, why do you have that on the soundboard?

00:11:54.000 Oh my gosh, it's like someone tried to kill Chucky with bleach.

00:12:01.000 I had hits in the early 2000s. 1.00

00:12:03.000 I'm gonna kill your sister. 1.00

00:12:06.000 Alright. 1.00

00:12:09.000 And Britney Spears is dead.

00:12:10.000 So here's a Muslim woman before we move on, and we have, I'm sure Mr. Spencer will love this as his introduction, John Spencer.

00:12:18.000 And I'm looking forward to you actually doing the interview with him, you know, because you both, by the way, thank you for your service, Josh, for your service.

00:12:22.000 Yeah, I'm going to learn a lot from him.

00:12:23.000 Pops Crowder, you didn't thank him for his service.

00:12:24.000 Oh, thank you for your service.

00:12:25.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:12:25.000 Thank you.

00:12:26.000 All right.

00:12:28.000 You get one free miss a thank you for your service.

00:12:31.000 Okay, that's what we call the grace miss. 1.00

00:12:33.000 Thank you for your service.

00:12:34.000 So here's a Muslim woman in a hijab showing tick tock how to live your best life without showing your your face. 1.00

00:12:43.000 This is why I didn't see my wife's face before marriage! 0.98

00:12:45.000 Let go! 0.99

00:12:45.000 When my dad approved of our marriage, he actually told my husband that he could see my face once before marriage, so why did you reject it? 0.99

00:12:50.000 One reason is I knew you from working together for several years. 0.89

00:12:53.000 It's because he's gay. 1.00

00:12:53.000 He doesn't want to see your face. 1.00

00:12:54.000 Smelled her.

00:12:55.000 I wanted to be with you regardless of how you looked.

00:12:57.000 Not only did I do that, but I also got married to you without seeing your face.

00:13:00.000 Muscle women cannot go to the gym in a face veil. 1.00

00:13:04.000 Oh my god.

00:13:05.000 Imagine that smell.

00:13:07.000 Actually it's a struggle for me to eat outside anywhere and sometimes like I can always just pull up my veil like this, eat through here.

00:13:13.000 But I actually found a better solution.

00:13:15.000 We actually have a tent!

00:13:16.000 There is a window so I can just put it down when I'm eating, have my bagel, turn around and flip my bagel and eat it.

00:13:22.000 Bagel?! !

00:13:23.000 That's a Jewish food.

00:13:25.000 Women are supposed to cover certain parts of their bodies even in front of other women. 1.00

00:13:27.000 I'm supposed to cover from chest to knee in front of other women, but I prefer to be a little bit more modest.

00:13:31.000 So while swimming in an all-female pool, I would wear long swim pants with swim shirt on top. 1.00

00:13:35.000 That would mean my veil would come off, my hijab would come off, but my swim cap would stay on.

00:13:38.000 What if the lifeguard is a man?

00:13:39.000 Then I won't go swimming.

00:13:40.000 When she's adding the layers, it's like the Weezer pork and beans video.

00:13:44.000 video.

00:13:45.000 Every shirt you can imagine.

00:13:47.000 That's a great pull.

00:13:48.000 What's most offensive is the horrible form.

00:13:51.000 First off, do some compound movements.

00:13:53.000 They look pretty light.

00:13:55.000 Those weights are light.

00:13:56.000 Yeah, I know.

00:13:58.000 Why did I make my wife wear a veil? 1.00

00:14:00.000 Oh, one guess. 1.00

00:14:02.000 She's ugly. 1.00

00:14:04.000 Wear this veil, put on this fake mustache. 1.00

00:14:11.000 It's their right!

00:14:11.000 It's their choice!

00:14:12.000 You know, this is the intersect, right?

00:14:14.000 Intersectionalism.

00:14:15.000 It's just whoever they view as most oppressed.

00:14:17.000 So they support Islam, right? 0.65

00:14:18.000 If they're talking about Israel and Palestine.

00:14:20.000 But in general, Islam versus Christianity.

00:14:22.000 But then they have a pride flag.

00:14:23.000 Where, of course, the Muslims don't allow for any pride flag. 0.99

00:14:25.000 You think they have Trans Awareness Month?

00:14:27.000 But the issue is, it's just, hey, they're oppressed!

00:14:30.000 That's the worldview of the left, is whoever is most successful must be bad.

00:14:33.000 Rich?

00:14:33.000 Bad.

00:14:33.000 If you're a majority, okay, you're white?

00:14:35.000 Bad. 0.92

00:14:35.000 If you're straight? 0.92

00:14:36.000 Bad.

00:14:37.000 And so, this is how they end up supporting ladies who, by the way, this is not their choice by law in Islamic countries.

00:14:44.000 They don't have a choice.

00:14:45.000 Maybe in the United States, but women drown! 1.00

00:14:49.000 When you look all throughout the Arab world, the Middle East, they will drown wearing it. 1.00

00:14:54.000 It's like they're getting waterboarded.

00:14:55.000 And I love how they always try to make it seem like it's really convenient.

00:14:57.000 It's like eco-friendly stuff.

00:14:59.000 It's really convenient!

00:15:00.000 You don't have to flush your toilet.

00:15:02.000 Just use some old oak ash and potpourri and have a dry toilet.

00:15:06.000 It's like, what?

00:15:06.000 Okay, what?

00:15:08.000 Sometimes I can't eat in public, but luckily I bring this tent everywhere I go.

00:15:12.000 Yes, exactly!

00:15:12.000 I just need the tent from Congo!

00:15:14.000 This is my snack tent! 1.00

00:15:19.000 It's the same people that will support this, because they're the most oppressed, the same people that if they saw a conservative Christian white man talking to his wife a certain way, they'll go, wow, what a piece of crap. 1.00

00:15:29.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:15:30.000 And you're like, okay.

00:15:30.000 Like, yeah, what, do you want your wife to wear prairie dresses?

00:15:33.000 Well, you just supported that woman who was in a ninja outfit. 1.00

00:15:35.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:15:36.000 And she's loving it. 1.00

00:15:37.000 That's empowering.

00:15:38.000 She's just loving the status of the victim card.

00:15:40.000 And none of it is to honor God.

00:15:42.000 Notice that?

00:15:42.000 That didn't come out once.

00:15:43.000 It was all, this is my ritual, this is what I do, this is my prescription.

00:15:47.000 To honor my father.

00:15:48.000 Yeah.

00:15:49.000 This is how I go in a tent.

00:15:51.000 Arranged marriage.

00:15:52.000 Do you bring a tent everywhere?

00:15:54.000 Right.

00:15:55.000 Yeah, she just has it on her back like she's just a hiker. 0.90

00:15:57.000 And you know underneath that scarf, there's just a blower there.

00:16:00.000 You can see it was hanging on his nose.

00:16:03.000 That's why he didn't want to see the face.

00:16:06.000 He's like, I've seen enough already.

00:16:07.000 This protrusion.

00:16:10.000 He's married Daniel Stern.

00:16:14.000 Don't shoot me in profile. 0.82

00:16:16.000 Don't ever shoot me in profile. 0.62

00:16:20.000 It was the sound of an airstrike flying into Gaza.

00:16:25.000 Alright, let's move on to Elon Musk was on with Joe Rogan yesterday and this is always, you know, it's always interesting to see Elon Musk.

00:16:34.000 Some people say, I think he's disingenuous because he's come to this later life.

00:16:38.000 I don't.

00:16:38.000 I think you're watching a man develop in his later years, sort of becoming aware.

00:16:43.000 And certainly, I bet you, as he's gone into the Twitter files.

00:16:45.000 Same thing with, honestly, President Donald Trump.

00:16:47.000 Some people say former president.

00:16:48.000 Some people say sitting president.

00:16:49.000 I say sitting president.

00:16:50.000 Okay.

00:16:51.000 I think that he was somewhat fiscally conservative, and then all of his leftist friends turned on him.

00:16:57.000 And then he realized that these people weren't his friends, and you saw him become more right-wing, more conservative.

00:17:03.000 You comment below, because I see a lot of criticism toward Elon Musk.

00:17:07.000 But I think that he has some people in charge of Twitter sometimes who aren't necessarily following out his prescriptions, as seen by many people here at the Light Earth Crowder crew who have been suspended repeatedly.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, well, Yakuza, you know, you may have committed crimes.

00:17:23.000 I did read those.

00:17:24.000 Yes, yes.

00:17:26.000 I had to wash my eyes out.

00:17:27.000 Yes.

00:17:28.000 Well, the good thing is, you know, you won't have to take part in Trans Visibility Day.

00:17:33.000 He was right, though.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, but then tomorrow's Trans Auditory Month, so I don't know what that is.

00:17:37.000 Auditory Month? 0.97

00:17:38.000 Going around checking them?

00:17:39.000 Yeah.

00:17:40.000 Weird noises.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, it's just, it's just a noise perpetually of fathers going, ugh.

00:17:48.000 All month.

00:17:48.000 Okay, so yesterday Elon Musk, he was on the Joe Rogan Show and he talked about quite a bit.

00:17:54.000 Let's just, let's set this up with the first clip.

00:17:56.000 What was it ultimately that led you to make the decision to do it?

00:18:01.000 I mean, this is going to sound somewhat melodramatic, but I was worried about that it was having a corrosive effect on civilization.

00:18:10.000 That it was just having a bad, a bad impact.

00:18:16.000 Okay.

00:18:16.000 And you know what, that would make sense because a lot of the time people, every person says, right, well, I want to make a difference.

00:18:22.000 That's why I do what I do.

00:18:23.000 Well, you could do that and you don't have to run a multi billion dollar enterprise.

00:18:27.000 You know, I've always said with this, this is a business that we run, unlike a lot of conservative media entities, it's not a, Non-profit, and by the way, we're funded by viewers like you.

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00:18:37.000 It's what allows us to do this.

00:18:39.000 We have a full half of the show.

00:18:42.000 Alex Jones, of course, who everyone else ran like their hair was on fire, and we say, nope, you know what?

00:18:46.000 Hey, we want him on our team.

00:18:47.000 Brian Callan, you have Josh here all the time.

00:18:49.000 We have the Hodge twins.

00:18:50.000 We have a Friday show.

00:18:51.000 Nick DiPaolo every single day.

00:18:54.000 Guns and gear.

00:18:56.000 So, I get it, this is a business, but it's not just business.

00:18:59.000 However, if you look at Elon Musk, he did risk something.

00:19:04.000 He didn't need to buy Twitter.

00:19:06.000 If anything, it might have harmed him financially, right?

00:19:07.000 There was a risk there.

00:19:08.000 This was not a guy who needed to purchase it.

00:19:11.000 He bought it when it was losing money.

00:19:12.000 Yes, exactly.

00:19:14.000 And as far as we know, it may still be losing money.

00:19:17.000 So, he talked about, too, how the left was using Twitter to spread his message.

00:19:21.000 So, the point is, I believe what he's saying there, because I look at what he risked.

00:19:24.000 When people say, I'm trying to help, I want to do better for the world, and all they do is line their pockets, like a perfect example, Al Gore.

00:19:30.000 Al Gore sitting on the board at Apple, he only makes money off of that if, you know, if climate change is not the existential threat that you believe it to be, Al Gore's out of a job.

00:19:40.000 Sort of like if racism were to go away, which it largely has in the Western world, Al Sharpton is out of a job.

00:19:46.000 Also, if anyone requires someone who's literate with Prompter, Al Sharpton's out of a job.

00:19:53.000 He's not good.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, he's not good.

00:19:55.000 He's got a word problem.

00:19:56.000 So Elon Musk got into his vision, kind of, for the platform, right?

00:19:59.000 And that he discussed that there was a government collusion under Twitter, which he suspected.

00:20:04.000 But now, I keep getting confused.

00:20:06.000 Twitter X. If I say Twitter X, just guys, you can comment below.

00:20:08.000 You can admonish me yourself because I'm probably going to go back and forth here.

00:20:13.000 He also talked about how, and having spent time of course in California, I thought this was pretty illuminating, how Twitter was exporting San Francisco's mind virus to the world.

00:20:24.000 If you've walked around downtown San Francisco, right near the ex-FKA Twitter headquarters, it's a zombie apocalypse.

00:20:31.000 Now, you have to say, well, what philosophy led to that outcome?

00:20:34.000 And that philosophy was being piped to Earth.

00:20:37.000 You know, a philosophy that would be ordinarily quite niche and geographically constrained, so that sort of the fallout area would be limited, was effectively given an information A weapon.

00:20:53.000 An information technology weapon to propagate what is essentially a mind virus to the rest of Earth.

00:21:01.000 And the outcome of that mind virus is very clear if you walk around the streets of downtown San Francisco.

00:21:07.000 It is the end of civilization.

00:21:08.000 And this is important because you'll hear a lot of people say, well, you know, you have fringe liberals, right?

00:21:13.000 You have them on both sides.

00:21:14.000 Okay.

00:21:15.000 Let's go with that.

00:21:15.000 All right.

00:21:16.000 Let's say that the view that children, you know, at drag shows is fringe, even though everyone in the DNC supports it.

00:21:21.000 Let's say that puberty blockers for children, let's say that like a 90% marginal tax rate.

00:21:26.000 Let's say that all of these ideas would be considered fringe or abortion up until and including birth.

00:21:32.000 Okay, but if those fringe liberals are in charge of 90 plus percent of the information on planet Earth, is it still fringe?

00:21:42.000 So let's go to overlay G1 here.

00:21:44.000 Matt, I'm going to go in a little bit of a different order.

00:21:46.000 If you look at San Francisco Silicon Valley, we're sort of using it.

00:21:49.000 Interchangeably.

00:21:50.000 They host the big tech headquarters for Twitter, or X, Google, which means YouTube, Apple, Facebook, Meta, which means Instagram.

00:21:57.000 That's all in effectively one small region of Earth.

00:22:02.000 And then you look at the employees, including the higher-up executives, they donated entirely, entirely to Democrats in 2022.

00:22:09.000 in 2022, 99.73% to 0.27%.

00:22:09.000 99.73% to 0.27%.

00:22:14.000 By the way, there's a rounding error of plus or minus 0.27%.

00:22:17.000 I was going to say that one person got fired for sure.

00:22:22.000 It's just like, think about Nazi propaganda.

00:22:25.000 Was everyone in Germany a Nazi?

00:22:27.000 Of course not.

00:22:28.000 But the propaganda leaving the country, guess who was in charge of the information, of the messaging?

00:22:28.000 No.

00:22:32.000 Do I think that it's a mainstream view of America that there should be drag shows on Main Street and at the Children's Public Library?

00:22:38.000 But it is a die-hard view.

00:22:38.000 No.

00:22:42.000 It is a fundamental tenet of the leftist worldview, which is held with almost hallowed regard.

00:22:49.000 From people at Big Tech.

00:22:51.000 And of course those in the DNC who work with them.

00:22:54.000 And I think that's why this interview was so important.

00:22:56.000 He's talking with a guy, Joe Rogan, who was admonished by Jen Psaki.

00:23:01.000 And I also believe Karen Jean-Piercing.

00:23:02.000 We really hope that Spotify does more to make sure that Joe Rogan is not spreading misinformation.

00:23:10.000 Think about that.

00:23:11.000 Insane.

00:23:11.000 From the office of the President of the United States.

00:23:13.000 Yes.

00:23:14.000 That comes.

00:23:14.000 The official representative.

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 Their role is to speak!

00:23:18.000 In the White House.

00:23:18.000 To the press.

00:23:19.000 That's crazy.

00:23:20.000 You're right, you're talking about a guy who came about these views later in life.

00:23:23.000 Speaking to a guy who's coming to the right later in life.

00:23:28.000 You know, guys like Tim Poole, Russell Brand.

00:23:31.000 It's happening all over the place.

00:23:32.000 People are starting to think like adults.

00:23:35.000 People of influence.

00:23:37.000 Trump's sway with the black community, there's a lot of change happening.

00:23:40.000 That's such a generational thing to be complimented by insulting them.

00:23:46.000 I think it's so sweet that you're now acting like a grown-up. 1.00

00:23:53.000 You know the classic Dennis Miller line, if you've reached a certain age and you haven't thought about such things, then you've lived an asshole's life. 0.98

00:24:02.000 And you know, I'm glad these guys have come around. 0.98

00:24:04.000 They're sitting there across from one another.

00:24:06.000 We don't have to agree on everything, but I think free speech is a big one, and certainly people who can be in positions of control.

00:24:12.000 And this is also, by the way, why I want to go back, remind me to go back to the idea of nonprofits and 501c3s, because I know we have Mr. Spencer on, so we might have to clip this along.

00:24:20.000 So Elon also went on to say that under Jack Dorsey, Twitter, which is now X, was functioning effectively as a state publication.

00:24:28.000 Like Pravda.

00:24:28.000 Jack didn't really know this, but the degree to which Twitter was simply an arm of the government was not well understood by the public.

00:24:38.000 It was like Pravda, basically.

00:24:44.000 It's a state publication, is the way to think of old Twitter.

00:24:46.000 It's a state publication.

00:24:48.000 That was one of the things about the old Twitter was the propaganda and the adherence to whatever the CDC was saying and the dismissing of legitimate scientists.

00:25:03.000 Now people will say, and this is why, just so you know, Joe Rogan is the biggest show on earth.

00:25:08.000 So this is not at all to diminish what he does, but this is why, with this program, we make all the references publicly available, because these two people are having a conversation, an organic conversation, and that's great, that's important.

00:25:20.000 We also want to make sure that you are prepared when the media tries to fact-check and say, that's not true, that you have the references, a bibliography, right in front of you.

00:25:27.000 That's why we put the link in the description, and you can see all of the references at loudearthcracker.com, because they just discussed those.

00:25:33.000 Now, I'm going to tell you, that's correct.

00:25:35.000 The media is going to try and say, once it picks up steam, that it's not.

00:25:38.000 That's why we make the references available.

00:25:39.000 Just a different approach.

00:25:42.000 The Twitter files verified, by the way, that the FBI colluded with Twitter to suppress stories specifically at the Biden administration's request.

00:25:49.000 Most notable, the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:25:51.000 So when that came out, we're going, why was this throttled on Twitter?

00:25:55.000 Jack Dorsey gave an explanation.

00:25:56.000 Well, it could be misinformation.

00:25:57.000 And of course, they never reinstated it, which affected the entire outcome of the election, by the way.

00:26:02.000 If that story was allowed on social media, everywhere, Meta, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all those places, if that was allowed to proliferate just organically as any other story, the election is different regardless of changing the election laws, regardless of mass mail-in voting.

00:26:17.000 Joe Biden doesn't win a single swing state.

00:26:20.000 Think about that.

00:26:21.000 The Hunter Biden laptop story, that didn't come from just Twitter thinking it was misinformation.

00:26:25.000 Who determines what is misinformation?

00:26:27.000 In this case, it was the FBI.

00:26:31.000 Elon also goes on to make the claim, we will see if this is verified here.

00:26:36.000 Spoiler alert, it is.

00:26:37.000 That's foreshadowing.

00:26:40.000 Spoiler alert, it's a dude.

00:26:42.000 We're aware.

00:26:43.000 Yes, we're aware.

00:26:44.000 We see you.

00:26:45.000 We are so aware.

00:26:48.000 Seen.

00:26:49.000 He also makes the claim that this was the result of liberals suppressing anything to the right of their beliefs, also in collusion with government.

00:26:58.000 Basically, oppression of any views that would even, I would say, be considered middle of the road.

00:27:07.000 But certainly anything on the right.

00:27:09.000 I'm not talking about far right, I'm just talking mildly right.

00:27:14.000 Republicans were suppressed at ten times the rate of Democrats.

00:27:18.000 Now, that's because all Twitter was fundamentally controlled by the far left.

00:27:23.000 Everything is to the right if you're far left.

00:27:25.000 Everything is to the right.

00:27:27.000 Now here's the thing.

00:27:28.000 I wouldn't say far left.

00:27:29.000 That's the one correction I'd make.

00:27:30.000 Mainstream left.

00:27:32.000 Mainstream left is far left.

00:27:33.000 And just to be clear, when people try to say, oh, they've gone far right and gone far left.

00:27:37.000 No, the right has gone slightly left and the left is far left.

00:27:41.000 So if you're looking at the Overton window where it shifted, okay, here are Republicans.

00:27:46.000 I guess I should.

00:27:47.000 It's my right, your left, so maybe I should do it.

00:27:48.000 Okay, here are Republicans.

00:27:49.000 I have to do it in reverse.

00:27:50.000 Here were Democrats, conservatives, liberals.

00:27:52.000 We're using the American kind of nomenclature here.

00:27:55.000 All right.

00:27:55.000 It didn't do this.

00:27:58.000 It did this.

00:28:01.000 Let me give you some examples, because that's a big myth that a lot of people use to fence it and say, I'm talking about the far left.

00:28:06.000 Okay.

00:28:07.000 We talk about no cash bail.

00:28:09.000 Okay, that's a big one.

00:28:10.000 Tolerance of crime in big cities.

00:28:12.000 Okay, you talk about not just, you know, at this point, not just talking about weed, black tar heroin being legal, you know, like in your home state.

00:28:19.000 Ideology, which includes hormone therapy and gender surgeries for kids, right? 0.97

00:28:24.000 Cities and states becoming safe havens for trans minors.

00:28:28.000 And by the way, teachers hiding children from their parents if they want to go If they want to undergo sex reassignment surgery, let's call it what it is.

00:28:40.000 Or if they want to go to a puberty-blocking clinic.

00:28:43.000 I don't know if it's called a puberty-blocking clinic.

00:28:45.000 You get the point.

00:28:46.000 The point here is, look at all of those policies.

00:28:48.000 Now name me one.

00:28:50.000 One.

00:28:51.000 Just one.

00:28:52.000 Comment below.

00:28:53.000 National member of the DNC who isn't on board with that.

00:28:58.000 You want to say, oh, everyone has gone extreme.

00:29:01.000 We're talking about as recently as 2010.

00:29:04.000 Barack Obama ran on an anti-gay marriage platform.

00:29:09.000 The only president to enter into office who was pro-gay marriage was Donald Trump.

00:29:15.000 Historically.

00:29:16.000 Historically.

00:29:17.000 Think about that.

00:29:17.000 Now I don't believe Barack Obama any further than I can throw him, which by the way is pretty far.

00:29:23.000 You're pretty you're pretty strong.

00:29:24.000 He's bird.

00:29:25.000 He's pretty light.

00:29:25.000 Yeah now Michelle.

00:29:27.000 I'd need a window.

00:29:27.000 I might need an addle-addle.

00:29:29.000 Everybody's dick is swinging around. 0.99

00:29:31.000 Like Thor's hammer. 0.99

00:29:35.000 By the way, Elon sounds very...

00:29:41.000 High?

00:29:43.000 No, I was going to say tired.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, he does.

00:29:46.000 Tired and just like when he's talking about the end of civilization and seeing a precursor in San Francisco, it just seems like he's so distraught.

00:29:55.000 Yeah, it does.

00:29:56.000 Behind the grin, it seems like he knows something that he's not quite sharing.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:02.000 There's a deeper issue.

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:03.000 He leaves trails of breadcrumbs if you see things that he retweets.

00:30:06.000 For example, things like, you know, cabals of pedophiles.

00:30:08.000 Now, that doesn't mean that we're talking about some Satan-worshipping spirit.

00:30:11.000 What he's talking about is people in positions of power who have a vested interest, for example, in allowing open borders because of sex trafficking in which they partake.

00:30:21.000 Things like that.

00:30:22.000 Things that have been verifiably proven to a small degree in individual cases.

00:30:26.000 I mean, Epstein, I think it's relevant.

00:30:31.000 I think it's relevant that the most powerful people in the world were visiting Sex Island.

00:30:36.000 26 times.

00:30:37.000 26 times.

00:30:39.000 That's just Bill Clinton.

00:30:40.000 That's two dozen.

00:30:42.000 That's two Baker's dozen.

00:30:46.000 Yes, the math is, yeah, it seems... I was doing the math.

00:30:49.000 I haven't been to Chick-fil-A 26.

00:30:51.000 Hahahahaha! 0.90

00:30:57.000 But they move you through faster.

00:30:59.000 They have a very efficient drive-thru system.

00:31:00.000 Very good drive-thru system.

00:31:03.000 But think about it, so now you have, we had Barack Obama, who was, now I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.

00:31:11.000 That's why I'm married, clearly, to what is a woman.

00:31:15.000 It's a woman, come on. 1.00

00:31:16.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Fine lady.

00:31:29.000 Isn't that right, Michelle?

00:31:32.000 I'm a fine lady.

00:31:33.000 You heard it.

00:31:36.000 So we went from anti-gay marriage Barack Obama to puberty blockers for children, and then really, you've been with us the last two years, sex reassignment surgery for children, and hiding the children from the parents if they don't want their children to undergo sex reassignment surgery.

00:31:51.000 Oh, and by the way, parental rights are just a, it's a byproduct, it's a construct of white supremacy.

00:31:57.000 So is the nuclear family.

00:31:59.000 We have not gone far right and far left.

00:32:02.000 We have all gone left, and the left has gone incredibly far left, which makes them now the mainstream left.

00:32:07.000 I'm not going to use the term the far left, because I don't know what would be considered far left.

00:32:11.000 Hold on a second.

00:32:11.000 Joe Biden supports gender reassignment for children.

00:32:16.000 So does Psaki. 0.89

00:32:17.000 So does Karen Jumper.

00:32:18.000 So does Kamala Harris.

00:32:20.000 So does Gavin Newsom.

00:32:22.000 So if we can't say that's far left, right?

00:32:25.000 These are the most prominent national figures.

00:32:27.000 What would be far left?

00:32:29.000 For crying out loud, Marx wouldn't be further to the left of them socially.

00:32:33.000 And as a general rule of thumb, anything leftist throughout history, it's about as useful as a mistake we've made.

00:32:39.000 We were not above Chet, who's, you know, Charles Xavier's brother.

00:32:43.000 We've hired him, we have him on retainer.

00:32:44.000 Leftism is about as useful as Chet, our resident X-Man.

00:32:47.000 Come on, Joe Louis. I can't turn.

00:32:54.000 Okay.

00:33:01.000 Okay.

00:33:08.000 you That's why he had the wiggles in the office today.

00:33:13.000 Not getting a lot of exercise.

00:33:15.000 Joe Louis isn't doing him any favors though. 1.00

00:33:17.000 He's kind of a dick. 0.99

00:33:18.000 I like it. 1.00

00:33:23.000 You're the one who dove into an empty pool.

00:33:32.000 So Musk also went on to say, and this is kind of the macro picture, that under his ownership, X, he laid out a vision, which is good.

00:33:39.000 You have people who just complain and don't lay out a vision for the way things should be, and I don't necessarily know that this is detailed, but I think it's a good start.

00:33:45.000 He said X, Twitter, should represent the collective consciousness of humanity.

00:33:51.000 that is that xfk twitter

00:33:56.000 uh... represent the sort of collective consciousness of humanity

00:34:02.000 so it now that that means that they're going to be views on there

00:34:06.000 that you don't like uh... or disagree with

00:34:12.000 but that's humanity but the taliban is on twitter

00:34:19.000 That's a valid question.

00:34:22.000 It is funny coming with that wig on.

00:34:22.000 Valid.

00:34:24.000 Yeah.

00:34:24.000 It's just a little funny.

00:34:25.000 Who was he?

00:34:25.000 Was he Ric Flair?

00:34:26.000 It's hard to tell because he's playing.

00:34:28.000 He has a Puerto Rico baseball jersey on, which I don't know who.

00:34:32.000 Oh no, Gabe Williams.

00:34:33.000 It's too obscure a reference.

00:34:34.000 Yeah, it's too obscure.

00:34:35.000 Yeah, it's probably a pun or something.

00:34:36.000 I'm sure I'm probably missing something.

00:34:38.000 Hey, so he talks about humanity.

00:34:39.000 You know who doesn't care?

00:34:40.000 Gabe Williams is pissed off.

00:34:43.000 You know who doesn't care about humanity?

00:34:45.000 And he commented on this, too, a little bit like the tortoise in the race.

00:34:48.000 He does seem tired.

00:34:49.000 But he commented on who doesn't care about humanity.

00:34:51.000 Elon Musk specified.

00:34:53.000 George Soros.

00:34:54.000 Soros? 0.91

00:34:55.000 I don't know.

00:34:55.000 I mean, he had a very difficult upbringing.

00:35:00.000 And in my opinion, he fundamentally hates humanity.

00:35:05.000 That's my opinion.

00:35:07.000 Really?

00:35:07.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 I mean, well, he's doing things that erode the fabric of civilization.

00:35:11.000 Yeah.

00:35:12.000 Now, can we confirm?

00:35:14.000 That's why we make all the references available.

00:35:16.000 Soros spent about $40 million on leftist DA campaigns all over America, right?

00:35:20.000 To be soft on crime.

00:35:22.000 To be clear, Soros DAs in this country, they represent about one in five in America, but they preside over 40% of the nation's murders. 0.99

00:35:33.000 And he also funded nearly just $15 million to pro-Hamas protests.

00:35:38.000 This is a guy, of course, who's a eugenicist who does believe that overpopulation is a problem.

00:35:43.000 He's funded all kinds of studies and funded movements to try and reduce population of Earth.

00:35:48.000 This is a guy who also most notably pointed out where the Jews were hiding, you know, to the Germans during the Holocaust.

00:35:54.000 This is not a good guy.

00:35:56.000 But he is a looker.

00:35:57.000 Yes, he is.

00:35:58.000 Yes.

00:35:59.000 He has a face that only a mother could hate.

00:36:02.000 Oh, speaking of a face, so Rogan was going as his doppelganger.

00:36:07.000 Oh, that makes sense.

00:36:07.000 That's right.

00:36:11.000 Not bad.

00:36:11.000 It's very meta.

00:36:12.000 It's very meta.

00:36:13.000 All right.

00:36:14.000 So my question to you is, look, let me ask you this.

00:36:16.000 Seeing where he lines up, Do you think that Twitter has improved under Musk's watch, and how far of a way do you think that it has to go?

00:36:25.000 How confident are you with him at the tiller of the ship?

00:36:27.000 I think that this shows, this does show, this was more than just, I'm a conservative, you know, delivering a red meat line to a camera for a few clicks on Instagram.

00:36:36.000 This was a guy, I do think, who was really kind of baring his soul, and I think a development.

00:36:40.000 It doesn't mean that Twitter's, I think that pragmatically Twitter is a little bit rougher in some ways.

00:36:44.000 I don't think he's really fixed the bots.

00:36:45.000 I think the trending issues probably have a long way to go.

00:36:48.000 But the heart of it, of wanting free speech to exist there, is a move in the right direction.

00:36:52.000 There are only two places really doing that right now.

00:36:54.000 That's Rumble and hopefully Twitter.

00:36:57.000 But Rumble has been a lot more consistent with that, which is of course why Mug Club 0.99

00:37:01.000 is Rumble.

00:37:02.000 Rumble is Mug Club.

00:37:03.000 You can join Mug Club. 0.70

00:37:04.000 We've already talked about that, but we're really happy to be in a partnership with them.

00:37:07.000 And I do think that Twitter has improved quite a bit.

00:37:10.000 You weren't active on Twitter before, Josh.

00:37:12.000 I wasn't.

00:37:12.000 I hated Twitter.

00:37:15.000 First of all, I wasn't good at it.

00:37:16.000 I still am not good at it.

00:37:18.000 As a comedian, I'm supposed to be making jokes and all I do is share videos of stuff I'm angry about.

00:37:23.000 Or baseball.

00:37:26.000 No one cares.

00:37:27.000 It's kind of a different environment.

00:37:29.000 A lot of conservative voices are back on Twitter.

00:37:33.000 I know a lot of people have left for that Threads thing.

00:37:35.000 Not a lot.

00:37:36.000 Some have.

00:37:36.000 lot or whatever it is but some have it seems like a it seems like a place where

00:37:41.000 people are you know able to say we're right-leaning things now so yeah I was

00:37:48.000 just seeing this on CNN right now whether it's covering pro-hamas protests

00:37:51.000 Can I see what this is?

00:37:51.000 I just showed a kid.

00:37:52.000 How do you think this ends?

00:37:54.000 When you're working on the amount of precedent that there is with Israel, with Gaza, with the Palestinians, with Hamas, I don't foresee this ending in a way that will feel very final.

00:38:05.000 Israel has lost. 0.85

00:38:07.000 The innocent civilians in Gaza have lost.

00:38:11.000 Nobody can win a war like this.

00:38:14.000 And so what does the end look like?

00:38:17.000 It looks like loss.

00:38:18.000 Where do you find the hope in a situation like this?

00:38:21.000 I have no hope that this conflict will be resolved in the next century.

00:38:24.000 Like, not at all.

00:38:25.000 I think this will be an almost immutable fact of the Middle East, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 0.73

00:38:32.000 This is where I turn to religion and prayer, God, you know, really the core of Judaism, and that's... So, look, let me address it.

00:38:42.000 This is one of the... I agree with them.

00:38:44.000 The premise.

00:38:46.000 I agree with the premise that this is not a conflict that is going to end.

00:38:49.000 Now, sometimes you'll have people say that, and you can comment below.

00:38:52.000 They'll say, so this conflict is not, you know, going to end, and it's nothing but loss.

00:38:55.000 Okay?

00:38:58.000 So if you believe that you're in a conflict that will never end, the goal is to ensure that the enemy It's like saying, yeah, I know this is a tyrant.

00:39:15.000 I know it's a tyrant who's going to take everything anyway, so let me give him some to start.

00:39:21.000 Imagine if Winston Churchill said, you cannot negotiate with a tiger when your head is in its mouth, so just give him everything!

00:39:33.000 You can say it's never going to end, therefore roll over, or it's never going to end, so you accept the violence.

00:39:38.000 Wherever you line up on this conflict, I agree, it's never going to end. 0.60

00:39:42.000 I think a silly, a silly thought process to develop from that, I think a silly conclusion to which you come is, therefore, let's try and have peace. 0.62

00:39:53.000 You just said you can't give peace a chance. 0.96

00:39:56.000 Yeah.

00:39:57.000 So then don't!

00:39:59.000 They say it's never going to end, and they want a ceasefire.

00:40:01.000 If you have a ceasefire right now and it's never going to end, people are just dying for nothing.

00:40:05.000 Exactly.

00:40:06.000 All these people that were sad about it, I'm sad about it.

00:40:08.000 Of course!

00:40:08.000 It's not a great thing, I'm not happy about it, but they all die in vain if you just ceasefire.

00:40:13.000 You've got to get rid of Hamas as best you can, and another group of initials will pop up under a different banner. 0.96

00:40:21.000 Okay, since we do have Spencer coming up here in a little bit, let's address the Joe Biden emails tomorrow, just to be clear.

00:40:27.000 Let me just give you a quick recap, Kay.

00:40:29.000 There was a lawsuit by the Southern Legal Foundation.

00:40:31.000 Now they just uncovered that Joe Biden sent 82,000 emails using pseudonyms during his time as VP.

00:40:37.000 Only Fox Business was the one who broadcasted it.

00:40:39.000 Nothing in media.

00:40:39.000 We're not going to show the clip, but we do know that there are some emails in there from

00:40:42.000 2014 to 2019 when Hunter served at Burisma.

00:40:47.000 Emails regarding that, we do know that there were emails in 2015 with Vice Presidential

00:40:51.000 Aide John Flynn that included Hunter on these emails that specifically addressed Ukraine.

00:40:56.000 There were at least 10 emails that cc'd Hunter Biden in relation in many ways to Ukraine,

00:41:00.000 to Burisma, and of course the Ukrainian prosecutor, Victor, I believe Victor Shokin.

00:41:05.000 and being dismissed. These are issues that are addressed in these emails, and the National

00:41:10.000 Archives said that they're going to be producing more on a monthly basis. So I don't want to

00:41:15.000 not do this topic justice, and I think there's probably going to be more tomorrow to cover.

00:41:21.000 So let me know if you'd like us to cover that tomorrow. And if you have any information,

00:41:25.000 feel free to send it in or comment below, because we're kind of still collecting the data. All right.

00:41:29.000 So to lead into what a war in Gaza right now, the ground invasion, because Josh is here,

00:41:35.000 and of course he has done... How many... Did you do three tours?

00:41:38.000 Two tours?

00:41:39.000 Three tours to Afghanistan.

00:41:40.000 Thank you for your service.

00:41:42.000 Oh, I mean, it was... Pops!

00:41:44.000 I did.

00:41:45.000 I did.

00:41:45.000 I got it out.

00:41:46.000 Can I have my pen back?

00:41:47.000 You can.

00:41:48.000 I was too busy.

00:41:49.000 I was too busy, I was too busy in the hospital.

00:41:51.000 I don't want to be a bad guy.

00:41:55.000 Whose dad didn't thank you for your service because...

00:41:59.000 Well Josh, my dad was a career military fighter pilot, retired colonel.

00:42:03.000 No one cares.

00:42:04.000 I've lived under that banner my whole life and I'm quick to thank.

00:42:07.000 It's like he says, oh I'm a quarter black so I can say the N word.

00:42:12.000 Thank him for your service and you move on. 0.70

00:42:15.000 Thanks Kramp's Crowder.

00:42:17.000 This was something we were asked.

00:42:18.000 What media outlets do you trust in relation to the Israel-Palestine, Israel-Hamas conflict, really?

00:42:25.000 I get it.

00:42:26.000 I get it.

00:42:26.000 There's been misinformation on both sides, and that would be a tactic of war that would be pivotal today.

00:42:32.000 I mean, we just saw those tactics of war being used by Twitter, according to Elon Musk.

00:42:35.000 Why wouldn't a government military use it?

00:42:38.000 So let me ask you this, though.

00:42:40.000 You probably heard about Jabalia, the refugee camp there, right?

00:42:45.000 There was a strike.

00:42:46.000 Okay, so that's probably what you've heard to begin with.

00:42:48.000 Now let me ask you this, in your mind right now, take just a second, if you're on audio actually, take a second in your mind's eye, I want you to picture what a refugee camp looks like.

00:42:58.000 Okay, what do you think of?

00:43:00.000 All right, now we can bring up, do you think of something like this?

00:43:03.000 Right, most likely?

00:43:05.000 Or do you think of something like this?

00:43:08.000 This is the refugee camp we are discussing in Jabalia.

00:43:11.000 No, a city?

00:43:12.000 Yes, a city.

00:43:14.000 An apartment block?

00:43:17.000 Bigger than the Chaz in Seattle. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Yes, it's comparing, for example, homeless tents in Austin in a park to the Upper East Side.

00:43:27.000 Let's contrast that to begin with, right?

00:43:30.000 You've heard about this refugee camp, or most likely you can ask me.

00:43:35.000 I'll ask you.

00:43:35.000 You can comment if you have heard about the refugee camp in Gaza.

00:43:38.000 So let's set this up.

00:43:39.000 Yesterday, the IDF claimed responsibility, which right away should tip you off because they said the hospital, that was not us.

00:43:44.000 They said this one guilty for striking the Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza.

00:43:49.000 But even if that Hamas commander was there amidst all those Palestinian refugees who are in that in that Jabalia refugee camp.

00:43:58.000 He looks like Colonel Sanders.

00:44:00.000 And dropped a bomb there, attempting to kill this Hamas commander, knowing that a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children, presumably would be killed.

00:44:11.000 Is that what I'm hearing?

00:44:14.000 That's not what you're hearing, Wolf.

00:44:15.000 We, again, we're focused on this commander.

00:44:19.000 Again, you'll get more data who this man was.

00:44:22.000 He killed many, many Israelis. 0.99

00:44:24.000 We're doing everything we can.

00:44:26.000 It's a very complicated battle space.

00:44:28.000 There could be infrastructure there.

00:44:30.000 There could be tunnels there.

00:44:32.000 We're still looking into it, and we'll give you more data as the hour moves ahead.

00:44:36.000 Now just to be clear, everyone here is saddened when innocent life is lost.

00:44:42.000 Just to be clear.

00:44:44.000 And I do get that not every single person in Gaza or Palestinian is supportive of Hamas or wants to eradicate all the Jews as their representatives who were elected do.

00:44:55.000 Just to be clear.

00:44:57.000 But it also does matter when you have one side using human beings as human shields.

00:45:02.000 Again, you think of a refugee camp, you don't think of a major city with shops and bodegas and convenience stores and whatever their equivalent written in that Arabic to Quick Trip is.

00:45:12.000 It's still Quick Trip.

00:45:13.000 It's probably 7-Eleven.

00:45:14.000 The Stop and Rob.

00:45:15.000 Yes, the Stop and Rob.

00:45:17.000 Stop and Rob hijab. 1.00

00:45:18.000 It's a franchise.

00:45:19.000 It's a grab and blow.

00:45:23.000 They were all flooded with videos immediately claiming that the IDF indiscriminately murdered, some of them claiming deliberately murdered, innocent women and children.

00:45:32.000 Here's how they painted it.

00:45:34.000 Part of the Jabalia refugee camp, among the largest and most densely populated in Gaza, now turned to rubble.

00:45:42.000 The latest target of Israel's relentless air campaign.

00:45:50.000 Israel dropped five bombs of no warning.

00:45:53.000 The United Nations is saying there is nowhere safe for Palestinians right now.

00:45:58.000 Right away that says the Ministry of Health 400 Palestinians, mostly women and children.

00:46:07.000 There's nowhere safe. 0.98

00:46:09.000 Some Jews feel like there's nowhere safe when you have a government saying, our goal is to eradicate all Jews. 0.98

00:46:17.000 Yeah, what's that security blanket? 0.81

00:46:18.000 Yeah, it's like, oh, can I just, you know what, I'll just go on over here.

00:46:21.000 No, no, that's still in the eradication zone.

00:46:24.000 Where is not near etiquette?

00:46:26.000 No, etiquette means everywhere.

00:46:27.000 It's all mine.

00:46:28.000 There's no what's mine is yours, it's what's yours is mine, what's mine is mine.

00:46:31.000 Because you are Jew. 0.99

00:46:33.000 So, Piers Morgan... But when your old rubble looks just like your new rubble, it's kind of hard to tell.

00:46:39.000 Did you renovate in here?

00:46:40.000 Yeah, same rubble.

00:46:42.000 This is, I guess this is modern, rustic chic?

00:46:46.000 That'll be rebuilt by next week.

00:46:49.000 It's contemporary Arab world since forever. 0.97

00:46:52.000 So, I get we're talking about Israel, okay, and Palestine, the whole thing.

00:46:55.000 It's not a real country.

00:46:56.000 All right.

00:46:56.000 So, Piers Morgan also forcefully condemned this action, writing, Israel deliberately bombing Gaza's largest refugee camp, even if a Hamas commander was there, is outrageous and indefensible.

00:47:10.000 Okay?

00:47:11.000 So, what do we know about this refugee camp?

00:47:13.000 All right, well, here's a couple of fast facts for you.

00:47:14.000 Number one, This was a refugee camp established in 1948.

00:47:19.000 It was established after Egypt conquered Gaza during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

00:47:26.000 I said Gaza because I was still in Pierce Morgan mind.

00:47:30.000 Gaza.

00:47:31.000 Hamas. 0.73

00:47:32.000 Gaza.

00:47:32.000 I still have a little bit of Macho Man Randy Savage from yesterday.

00:47:34.000 It was all night.

00:47:35.000 You're in Gaza, yeah.

00:47:37.000 Tell you that gets the macho man a little bit irritated, no.

00:47:41.000 I don't want to be an Arab-Israeli war prisoner, no, because the cream rises to the top. 1.00

00:47:46.000 That's the IDF.

00:47:48.000 When the IDF comes knocking on your door, you're going to know who the real macho man is.

00:47:53.000 All night, my boss was there, I was doing it, look, just to add some levity here, with my kids, and we were trick-or-treating, and I put it on, and I was doing it, and they loved it, then at one point I take off my glasses and I go, hey, it's Dada!

00:48:06.000 And my son goes, no.

00:48:10.000 Dada's no fun at all.

00:48:12.000 Be Macho Man!

00:48:14.000 Alright, I guess I'm not gonna have a voice tomorrow, gonna be hoarse, yeah!

00:48:19.000 You were like getting into character all night yesterday.

00:48:22.000 If I took it out, if I took anything off, like, no, no, no, Macho Man!

00:48:26.000 One of the dads on one of the porches says, you keep that up, you'll talk to nobody tomorrow.

00:48:31.000 That was a guy, he was drinking an IPA in his porch, yeah, cause he likes beer that tastes like soap, yeah, Macho Man doesn't like beer that tastes like soap, no, figuratively speaking.

00:48:43.000 That's not your man being articulate, figuratively speaking.

00:48:48.000 So the Jabali refugee camp established in 1948 after the Arab-Israeli war.

00:48:52.000 Okay.

00:48:53.000 These aren't refugees.

00:48:54.000 The context here, what I'm trying to tell you is fleeing Israeli airstrikes.

00:48:58.000 It's located just two to three miles from Gaza's north border.

00:49:03.000 Is that the area where the Israelis told everybody to evacuate, like, two or three weeks ago?

00:49:08.000 Right.

00:49:08.000 And so Israel sent some warnings to the south.

00:49:10.000 They have been sending warnings.

00:49:11.000 So, but no warnings?

00:49:11.000 My mom's no warning?

00:49:12.000 Well, you need a warning then.

00:49:14.000 You need to do continual warnings, because that's what people do in war.

00:49:18.000 Yeah.

00:49:18.000 Okay.

00:49:19.000 Yeah.

00:49:19.000 You need to be... We were doing it wrong.

00:49:21.000 Yeah, now you need to have your own Paul Revere on retainer for the other guy.

00:49:26.000 And nowadays the rules of engagement... The Jews are coming! 1.00

00:49:28.000 The Jews are coming! 1.00

00:49:30.000 It would be best if your Paul Revere was Macho Man. 0.94

00:49:33.000 Listen, I gotta tell you something, Keith.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, the Jews are coming. 1.00

00:49:37.000 They're bringing hellfire with them with the Macho Man, yeah! 1.00

00:49:40.000 The Jews are coming, yeah! 1.00

00:49:43.000 And they're wearing fringe.

00:49:44.000 And they're wearing fringe.

00:49:46.000 And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you do with the IDF.

00:49:49.000 No, you're just going to be a Palestinian kid throwing rocks at an Israeli tank. 0.94

00:49:53.000 Yeah! 0.78

00:49:56.000 It was all night.

00:49:57.000 It was four o'clock.

00:49:59.000 It never got old.

00:50:01.000 There was new material at every house.

00:50:02.000 Even now there's not going to be a Thursday show.

00:50:05.000 I had a kid sneeze.

00:50:07.000 He was so fascinated with the Macho Man, he walked up, sneezed in my face like it was a bioweapon, and then wiped it on my macho suit.

00:50:14.000 What?

00:50:15.000 I don't know.

00:50:15.000 I don't know if he had a cold.

00:50:16.000 I mean, he can't do anything about it.

00:50:17.000 There's no absorbency in that suit.

00:50:19.000 No, it's a sauna suit.

00:50:19.000 It was slick.

00:50:20.000 Alright.

00:50:21.000 That kid was working with the Iron Sheik. 0.94

00:50:22.000 Yes, he was.

00:50:24.000 Well, do you remember when the Macho Man went up to the kid in the vampire suit and complimented him on his outfit?

00:50:30.000 Oh, the Dracula suit?

00:50:31.000 Yeah, the Dracula, yeah.

00:50:32.000 That's right.

00:50:33.000 Anyway, it's a whole thing.

00:50:33.000 He's just trying to queue me up for more Macho Man.

00:50:35.000 He was the one who knocked that kid.

00:50:36.000 He was like, hey, do you want Macho Man?

00:50:39.000 I'm like, do you want Macho Man to whatever it is, you know, step in a bucket of snakes?

00:50:42.000 I'm like, yeah!

00:50:43.000 Well, I guess because Macho Man's pops wants me to step in a bucket of snakes, I don't want to disappoint the kids, no.

00:50:50.000 All night.

00:50:51.000 All right.

00:50:53.000 Here's another key fact, okay?

00:50:56.000 The camp, the refugee camp, is completely indistinguishable from the rest of the city. 0.56

00:51:02.000 Here's an aerial picture showing how the refugee camp, showing you exactly how it blends in with the rest.

00:51:09.000 Even the media, they can't agree on what the borders of the camp actually are.

00:51:15.000 Wherever the bombs fell.

00:51:17.000 Yes!

00:51:18.000 It's pretty easy to me.

00:51:19.000 And it's an urban environment. Again, you would think refugee can't be think-tense. No, it's 1.00

00:51:23.000 incredibly densely populated. It's about 82,000, give or take, people per square kilometer.

00:51:29.000 To give you context, New York City is about 10,000 people per square kilometer.

00:51:33.000 Oh, dang.

00:51:34.000 So you need to keep this in context. Okay, if terrorists are setting up tunnels and rockets,

00:51:38.000 and they're doing it in an area where there are as many women and children as possible, 0.99

00:51:44.000 Again, this is war! 0.93

00:51:46.000 Do you allow them to kill your women and children?

00:51:48.000 Or do you go after the terrorists and, I'm sorry, but collateral damage unfortunately results with women and children because they're firing their rockets deliberately using women and children as human shields.

00:51:58.000 Look at those maps!

00:52:00.000 That's where they picked!

00:52:01.000 That's where they picked to set this up.

00:52:03.000 And the media just read it.

00:52:03.000 This is completely indefensible.

00:52:06.000 I disagree.

00:52:07.000 I don't think it's completely indefensible when you understand context.

00:52:10.000 Here's another key fact.

00:52:12.000 This has been a target, this refugee camp, for the IDF since the very start of the war.

00:52:18.000 The IDF has claimed that Hamas, their leadership, have used Jabalia to shelter themselves, to hide.

00:52:25.000 Now, there could be bias here from the IDF.

00:52:26.000 That's why I ask you, what sources do you think are reliable?

00:52:30.000 Now, I tend to, I tend to, when Hamas IDF or government of Israel, I tend to give more weight to

00:52:38.000 the government of Israel, but I do certainly do not think that they are unbiased.

00:52:41.000 But it's because Hamas, you know, they brag about murdering innocent women and children.

00:52:46.000 So it's not that much of a stretch when the IDF says, by the way, they're murdering their

00:52:51.000 own women and children.

00:52:53.000 We do know also, according to Al Jazeera, that this refugee camp was used for Hamas activities regularly.

00:52:59.000 Here's Al Jazeera in 2014.

00:53:00.000 It says, Gaza's internal tunnel network is reportedly even more complex than cross-border routes and involves multiple branches that run under refugee camps in Khan Yunis, Jabalia, other densely populated areas.

00:53:13.000 They hide weaponry.

00:53:15.000 And they are designed for Hamas leadership to remain protected and mobile. 0.51

00:53:19.000 This is from Al Jazeera in 2014.

00:53:22.000 Which means this has been going on since at least then, where it was not up for debate.

00:53:27.000 Because you know Al Jazeera really wants to paint them in a more positive light.

00:53:31.000 Here's a Hamas terrorist giving a Russia Today journalist, and by the way, just so you know, I'm glad that Rumble allows Russia Today to be on their platform.

00:53:42.000 Because I want to hear what Hamas terrorists have to say.

00:53:45.000 That's the beauty of freedom of speech.

00:53:46.000 That's the beauty of being representative of all of humanity.

00:53:49.000 Warts and all.

00:53:51.000 Here's a Hamas terrorist giving a Russia Today journalist a guided tour of those tunnels.

00:53:58.000 This is where the journey begins.

00:54:01.000 The journey to the underground of Gaza.

00:54:04.000 A rope that represents the dividing line between life and death.

00:54:08.000 The military arm of the Islamic Jihad movement is 60 meters underground.

00:54:12.000 of course, the walls are made of cement, in addition to the ceiling, which gives these

00:54:19.000 tunnels a lot of strength.

00:54:21.000 And the information I know, perhaps for the first time...

00:54:23.000 The UN says that the function of these tunnels is to attack.

00:54:28.000 Tunnels that include the elements of the dam.

00:54:31.000 Okay, so, here's the thing.

00:54:34.000 If you think it's indefensible that any type of strike results in the death of women and children, that is a position to hold. 1.00

00:54:40.000 I understand that there are people who believe that there should be no war ever whatsoever.

00:54:44.000 However, what is not a defensible position is the idea that this was simply a refugee camp that was targeted with the intent of killing women and children.

00:54:53.000 How do we know?

00:54:54.000 From Hamas's own representatives, from Al Jazeera, from every source that we have available that lets us know that terrorists were there.

00:55:01.000 Now, could there be a middle ground?

00:55:04.000 Could the IDF have said, nah, you know what, there's probably another way to extract this person, but who cares, at this point we're past hitting the F it button?

00:55:12.000 Maybe!

00:55:15.000 But that's the danger of going out half-cocked with very little of the information and not providing historical context.

00:55:19.000 All the references we will make available for you at LadderWithCrader.com.

00:55:23.000 Link in the description.

00:55:24.000 Comment!

00:55:24.000 But you asked at the outset, what is your picture in your mind?

00:55:27.000 My mind immediately goes to these people using women and children all the time. 1.00

00:55:30.000 I never accept their explanation.

00:55:32.000 And it's not a matter of opinion.

00:55:34.000 It's not bias.

00:55:35.000 They've proven themselves so.

00:55:37.000 I don't understand why people still believe that.

00:55:41.000 They're lucky they didn't get a Moab. 1.00

00:55:42.000 With tunnels that strong?

00:55:44.000 I don't know if people believe it.

00:55:46.000 I think we've reached... you know, there used to be... the argument used to be people believed that they weren't using women and children as human shields.

00:55:53.000 And what I see from the left now, they're not denying it, but they're saying ceasefire anyway.

00:55:57.000 You want to believe that that's not true.

00:55:59.000 That's like... No, I think they're accepting the premise.

00:56:01.000 I think they're going, sure, they use women and children as shields, and sure, they do do that, and they're terrorists, but you know what?

00:56:05.000 Ceasefire anyway.

00:56:07.000 I saw someone arguing the other day about that. 0.99

00:56:08.000 They were saying, if somebody kidnapped your mom and had a gun to their head and you were a cop, would you still shoot and kill your mom? 0.98

00:56:17.000 And I was like, that's a terrible... They're just accepting that they're using human shields and they still shouldn't retaliate.

00:56:25.000 When they say things like, we value death more than you value life.

00:56:28.000 Come on, folks.

00:56:29.000 It's a modern society on the other side of the line.

00:56:32.000 It's a completely different culture.

00:56:33.000 We have our guest who is going to be here in a little bit.

00:56:35.000 So before that, we want to set this up regarding the land invasion that has started in Gaza.

00:56:38.000 And what I mean by that is there were airstrikes going on.

00:56:41.000 The war in the Middle East is obviously intensifying quite a bit.

00:56:44.000 And so we were thinking who would be better to run us through it than before our guest, of course, Mr. Spencer.

00:56:50.000 We have our own resident ranger here, which brings us to a new segment we call Josh Knows War.

00:56:56.000 🎵 Back to your service.

00:57:13.000 We spared no expense.

00:57:19.000 And you'll probably be better to interview our guest, Mr. Spencer, on here.

00:57:22.000 I have all of his credentials in a couple of minutes.

00:57:25.000 But first, let me just rattle this off so people kind of understand the context.

00:57:28.000 You know what a ground war looks like, having done three tours.

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 And this has only really started the ground invasion with Gaza, as opposed to airstrikes, four days ago.

00:57:36.000 I believe we have a clip.

00:57:37.000 Israel's military forces expanded its ground activities in Gaza as it prepares for a full-scale ground invasion.

00:57:45.000 Fireballs lit up northern Gaza's blacked-out skyline.

00:57:50.000 There are blasts rolling past seconds later.

00:57:54.000 Israel's defense forces said fighter jets struck 150 targets underground, including Hamas's maze of hundreds of miles of tunnels, while columns of Israeli tanks rolled into the strip.

00:58:06.000 Alright, so you guys have probably been following this, you know that this has been going on for about four days, and of course not everyone has supported the ground invasion, and that's an opinion that people, of course, can hold that's valid.

00:58:17.000 For example...

00:58:21.000 For example, Emmanuel Macron.

00:58:23.000 Macron?

00:58:24.000 Not a fan.

00:58:24.000 Macron?

00:58:25.000 He said, a ground invasion, it is aimed at terrorist groups that are totally identified.

00:58:29.000 It is their choice.

00:58:30.000 That matches the description I just gave.

00:58:32.000 If it is a massive ground invasion which puts civilian lives at risk, then I think that it is a mistake, and it is a mistake for Israel as well. 1.00

00:58:40.000 Let's just think of how stupid those two paragraphs are. 0.99

00:58:43.000 If it's aimed at terrorist groups that are totally identified, it is their choice. 1.00

00:58:48.000 If it is a massive ground invasion which puts civilian lives at risk... Did you spot the stupid? 0.99

00:58:53.000 What if it's aimed at terrorists who are easily identified behind the women and children human shield? 1.00

00:59:00.000 What would Napoleon do? 0.99

00:59:01.000 He would fuck people up. 0.99

00:59:02.000 Yes, that's what he would do. 1.00

00:59:04.000 Also, I like the counter... He wouldn't stand for this shit for one moment. 1.00

00:59:06.000 He would not, but I am what you call, how you say? 1.00

00:59:09.000 A pussy. 1.00

00:59:09.000 Yeah, I am a pussy boy, yes. 1.00

00:59:13.000 I am a... Because it doesn't protect Israel in the long term, and because it is incompatible with the respect of civilians, of the humanitarian and national law, and the law of war, I believe this would be a mistake. 0.97

00:59:22.000 We actually go now live to Macron's cabinet for commentary.

00:59:26.000 I also looked with the member of the French Parliament on the question of modernity and culture, in particular.

00:59:38.000 You hear that laugh?

00:59:38.000 That was exactly how he laughed.

00:59:44.000 That's not how he laughed.

00:59:49.000 Are you pissing on the fireplace?

00:59:50.000 Did you say you are with Hamas? 0.51

00:59:52.000 We are guests!

00:59:53.000 I'll guess, I'll guess!

00:59:56.000 Try the hummus, it's delicious!

01:00:02.000 He he he He he he Don't believe me?

01:00:06.000 Ask the dishes! 0.99

01:00:10.000 The dishes are Jews, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:00:15.000 Trying to eradicate my dishes. 0.97

01:00:18.000 The clock is just a former Nazi.

01:00:20.000 He had a little mustache like that.

01:00:24.000 He did have a little mustache.

01:00:26.000 Silence Hitler!

01:00:28.000 He was supposed to have died in Argentina with the other SS! 0.94

01:00:33.000 Alright, that's a deep pull.

01:00:34.000 Now, the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres also called for a ceasefire.

01:00:41.000 To ease epic suffering, make the delivery of aid easier and safer, and facilitate the release of hostages, I reiterate my appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.

01:00:54.000 No, no, look, here's the thing, wherever you line up, You don't get to call for a ceasefire after the deliberate targeting of women and children to a record number.

01:01:07.000 You don't get to rape somebody.

01:01:10.000 You don't get to march into someone's house, shoot their family members, and then when the cops come, call for a ceasefire. 0.59

01:01:17.000 And that is akin to supporting terrorism.

01:01:45.000 We're just missing Rafiki.

01:02:05.000 I'm sure we could fit Ilan Omar in there.

01:02:11.000 So despite pressure from the internet, let's just hear their side, now let's hear the Jewish side.

01:02:17.000 Here's Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying, go fornicate yourself.

01:02:21.000 Israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with Hamas after the horrific attacks of October 7th.

01:02:28.000 Calls for a ceasefire are calls for Israel to surrender to Hamas, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to barbarism.

01:02:38.000 The Bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war.

01:02:43.000 This is a time for war. 0.89

01:02:46.000 But whenever I hear barbarism, for some reason I still think of, like, just, like, a barber's union.

01:02:53.000 We will not stand for haircuts in this country.

01:02:55.000 We will not stand for haircuts.

01:02:56.000 Is it wrong that I want him to narrate every audiobook ever, ever again?

01:03:00.000 Netanyahu, what a voice, you know?

01:03:02.000 He does have a pretty damn good voice.

01:03:03.000 You know, he sounds like Dr. Grambois a little bit.

01:03:05.000 When we were kids?

01:03:06.000 Only with a Jewish accent? 0.91

01:03:07.000 Yeah, with a Jewish accent.

01:03:09.000 So here, and this is, sorry, because I wanted to go through this because our guest is waiting, but I really do want to get your perspective here to get a better idea of how a ground invasion might actually unfold, what the IDF soldiers can expect.

01:03:19.000 We have our resident ranger here, Josh Fierstein.

01:03:21.000 Thank you for your service.

01:03:22.000 And then we also have as a guest, a guest retired U.S.

01:03:25.000 Army officer.

01:03:25.000 I want to make sure I get all these right.

01:03:26.000 He's a current All right, John Spencer, can you hear me, see me, sir?

01:03:29.000 State Guard. He is Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point and

01:03:34.000 author of Understanding Urban Warfare. I think I've covered it all, Mr. John Spencer.

01:03:40.000 All right, John Spencer, can you hear me, see me, sir?

01:03:47.000 Thank you for being here.

01:03:48.000 I can see you and hear you.

01:03:50.000 Thanks for having me.

01:03:51.000 All right.

01:03:51.000 Well, thank you.

01:03:52.000 I apologize for the Lion King introduction, but we're okay with it.

01:03:55.000 Now, here, before, because I really would like for you to speak with Josh.

01:04:00.000 You know, Josh here has done three tours of duty himself.

01:04:03.000 And by the way, thank you both for your service.

01:04:05.000 Could you give the viewing audience, the person right now watching, listening, a bit of your background, kind of what it is that you do?

01:04:13.000 Sure.

01:04:13.000 So I spent 25 years in the Army as an infantry soldier, both as a soldier and an officer, two combat deployments to Iraq, one in the invasion, and then one in 2008 during the height of basically sectarian violence in Baghdad.

01:04:28.000 And then I went into basically academics after my career where I've been studying all urban warfare from the ancient warfare to today for over a decade and writing, have a podcast and Walking the ground.

01:04:43.000 I go in and out of Ukraine.

01:04:45.000 I go Nagorno-Karabakh.

01:04:46.000 I've been to Israel.

01:04:47.000 I've been to many of these places that were viciously slaughtered.

01:04:50.000 I've eaten lunch in Serdot and a lot of that.

01:04:53.000 So I'm a student of all of this and hopefully can help people understand what they're seeing like you were talking about.

01:04:59.000 Yeah.

01:04:59.000 I'm not trying to go crazy about it.

01:05:01.000 Well, it's hard to sort of parse, you know, reality from fiction right now, and I understand why people don't trust either side as far as the media.

01:05:08.000 Josh, what would be, kind of, as someone who's been on the ground, what would be your main question as far as, I guess, what are the unknowns here?

01:05:17.000 Well, for me, all my tours were in Afghanistan, and they were all after 2009 or later.

01:05:22.000 So it's a lot different than what you did, Colonel.

01:05:25.000 And going into Iraq and going through the invasion, I think we're kind of looking at a similar thing.

01:05:30.000 At least from the outside, it appears to be a similar situation.

01:05:33.000 And I'm kind of thinking, what would be Israel's ultimate goal in this ground invasion going into Gaza?

01:05:42.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.

01:05:43.000 I think it's actually pretty clear, despite some of the comments from the political leaders, from the military guys and analysts of these types of operations, it's very clear.

01:05:50.000 Destroy Hamas' military capability so they can never do another October 7th 9-11 event or send another rocket towards Israel's civilians. 0.77

01:06:00.000 You have to move forward. 0.72

01:06:02.000 You have to destroy people, rockets, tunnels, everything.

01:06:06.000 It's actually a very clear-cut military objective as opposed to some of the other ones I've seen.

01:06:11.000 Like, which ones would you say are not necessarily clear-cut?

01:06:16.000 The day after, right?

01:06:16.000 When you have to stay around and build a nation and try to instill democracy and things like that are foreign to that environment.

01:06:23.000 Right.

01:06:24.000 Militaries can destroy other military capabilities.

01:06:27.000 Militaries are horrible at building nations. 0.75

01:06:30.000 That makes sense.

01:06:31.000 Do you think there's no interest for Israel to rebuild anything after coming through or setting up a new government if they eradicate, er, eradicate? 0.61

01:06:39.000 Well, Hamas, I'm pro-eradicating Hamas. 0.90

01:06:42.000 Yeah, if they destroy Hamas and their Hamas government in Gaza?

01:06:46.000 Well, yes.

01:06:47.000 So the day after, right?

01:06:49.000 So that's always the question for any military and in military operation.

01:06:51.000 Israel says they have no intentions of governing Gaza ever again.

01:06:55.000 But yeah, I mean, Hamas is not the only terrorist organization, even in Gaza, right?

01:06:59.000 You have PJI, Lion's Den. 0.87

01:07:02.000 It's full of terrorists.

01:07:04.000 So who governs it and then, again, doesn't become a threat again to Israel will be determined their approach.

01:07:10.000 But right now, it's There's no other alternative.

01:07:13.000 That's kind of the issue here, too, is that everybody wants to talk about a ceasefire, all this, like, there is no other alternative.

01:07:19.000 Here's an alternative.

01:07:20.000 Every Hamas member surrenders, and there's a complete disarmament of Hamas military capability in Gaza, which is literally, you can see it from Israel.

01:07:30.000 It's not like it's Some people have this ideal again, like you said about the refugee camp, which is just a classification in which you can get more aid from the United Nations.

01:07:39.000 You have an ideal of a refugee camp. 1.00

01:07:40.000 It's not like a concrete city.

01:07:44.000 You have an ideal that Gaza is some faraway place from Israel. 0.87

01:07:47.000 It's literally in eyesight and the rockets come and have come every day since October 7th out of Gaza heading towards an Israeli civilian site.

01:07:58.000 It would be like being in Manhattan and having rockets being felled from Hoboken.

01:08:02.000 Yes.

01:08:02.000 Let me ask you just as a layman.

01:08:04.000 When you say this, because it seems like there can be no, the idea of ceasefire just seems so silly considering what happened, right, in October, now we're in November, so back in October.

01:08:13.000 Gosh, time moves quickly.

01:08:14.000 It's almost a month now.

01:08:15.000 Yeah.

01:08:15.000 But why was there such a delay as far as going into, you know, Graza?

01:08:20.000 Gaza.

01:08:22.000 You know, I graze.

01:08:23.000 It's a meal plan.

01:08:24.000 Going into Gaza by land.

01:08:26.000 Why was there a delay?

01:08:27.000 Will that hinder or will it help Israel's chances of success?

01:08:30.000 And obviously there's a difference between the airstrikes and the missiles, but boots on the ground.

01:08:36.000 Why the delay?

01:08:37.000 I mean, it takes, so there's many.

01:08:40.000 Number one, it takes a long time to gather an army of this size, especially the way that Israel relies on their reserve force, right?

01:08:48.000 Their bankers and everybody stops what they're doing and goes back to their units and forms up and gets all the tanks and all the bulldozers and everything in position.

01:08:57.000 It isn't like they just planned this in the last two weeks either.

01:09:00.000 They've had plans for decades for the possibility of this operation.

01:09:03.000 And then, like you said, Israel started asking for evacuations, you can't demand evacuations, on October 7th.

01:09:10.000 Right.

01:09:11.000 Especially in the Hamas strongholds, which is, if you look at, like you said, Jabala is in that northeastern sector of Gaza where IDF said from day one, this is where the majority of the combat is, please evacuate from these areas. 0.79

01:09:24.000 And 800,000 supposedly have But that's another reason why you like the right thing to do, not even the legal requirement, right?

01:09:32.000 Like the U.S. 0.68

01:09:33.000 doesn't call a building before we strike in any wars that I've ever been in.

01:09:36.000 In that ability to attack a city, the right thing to do is provide time for all noncombatants, although Hamas doesn't wear a uniform, to get out of the cities. 0.74

01:09:49.000 So that's the reason.

01:09:50.000 But it's also about putting in all the U.S.

01:09:52.000 capabilities.

01:09:53.000 You know, Israel, this is not new to Israel, having to go to war after being attacked, right?

01:09:58.000 It was attacked by five nations during the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War.

01:10:02.000 But it's always had to stand alone.

01:10:04.000 And as a U.S.

01:10:05.000 citizen, I was really proud of when the U.S.

01:10:07.000 said Israel's had to stand alone before, but they'll never have to stand alone again.

01:10:11.000 Right.

01:10:11.000 So getting those U.S.

01:10:12.000 ships, as people think, like the carrier strike groups into the area to be able to stop somebody like Iran or Syria or something from getting involved, That takes time.

01:10:23.000 Well, that's an important distinction because, look, I've said not one American soldier's life lost for the war between Israel and Hamas is my point of view, but I think that morally they need to be supported in defending themselves.

01:10:34.000 That's very different, however, from, hey, look, let them duke it out.

01:10:39.000 Iran, we've got our eye on you, right? 0.99

01:10:41.000 Flicking that jet.

01:10:42.000 That's different because Iran is a threat to American national security. 1.00

01:10:45.000 Would you agree with that assessment that that is a reasonable view for people to have?

01:10:49.000 We do not get involved Ourselves, directly, with Israel-Hamas.

01:10:53.000 But certainly, we have to have our eye on Iran and, you know, Hezbollah, when we're talking about Lebanon, we're talking about Yemen.

01:10:59.000 A lot of people who could jump in.

01:11:01.000 That's right.

01:11:02.000 And defensively, that also means that we can knock rockets out of the sky that are heading to Israel's civilian sites. 0.72

01:11:09.000 Right.

01:11:10.000 And did you have another question there, Josh?

01:11:12.000 Because, again, I don't know, because you've been in the actual... You know, I'm just... We're all here. 1.00

01:11:18.000 I'm your pussy boy. 0.99

01:11:20.000 Yeah, well, I didn't want to go into, you know, I never wanted to join the military largely because, you know, small hands. 1.00

01:11:27.000 But, you know, the Canadian military, a little bit different.

01:11:31.000 I didn't want to be, you know, I didn't want to be in a Cessna 182 with a shotgun.

01:11:36.000 That's why I didn't want to join the Air Force, you know, so if I was in the States, I might have been a little bolder.

01:11:39.000 Canadians, the Nazis of Kandahar.

01:11:44.000 But yeah, so these IDF soldiers going into Gaza, what does it look like for them?

01:11:53.000 What kind of obstacles will they face?

01:11:55.000 And how quickly do you think they can accomplish their objectives going into an urban warfare situation?

01:12:01.000 And if I could add to that, I think for a layman, right, because a lot of people will say, hey, you know what, when people talk about the Second Amendment, the Taliban, right, these guys out there who are just basically using monkey bars and old AKs, they were able to hold off, in many ways, the strongest military that's ever existed, right, the American military.

01:12:17.000 A big part of that was just home court advantage.

01:12:19.000 How big of a role does that play here, because the home court advantage is these urban areas that are used in people as human shields? 0.90

01:12:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I think there's a there's a kind of a bell's curve of scum on the earth and some use human shields, some don't.

01:12:34.000 Hamas uses and builds all of its infrastructure for the sole purpose of restricting what IDF soldiers can do in accordance with the law of war because that a professional military with values, ethics, follows the law of war. 0.58

01:12:49.000 And despite the two-sided conversation.

01:12:51.000 So what does this look for the IDF?

01:12:53.000 Of course Hamas has prepared for decades for this likelihood, right? 0.92

01:12:59.000 But very asymmetrically. 0.82

01:13:01.000 They're not dumb like the Iraqi military who tried to stand toe-to-toe with the U.S. 0.79

01:13:04.000 military. 0.87

01:13:05.000 They're going to try to fight asymmetrically, like hide in holes, hide in tunnels, pop up from hard buildings and use snipers.

01:13:13.000 Use IEDs that are very familiar to U.S.

01:13:15.000 soldiers and try to trick the IDF forces or pull them into the urban area where there's a lot of advantages from being able to pick which window you shoot from and surprise the IDF that has to move forward.

01:13:29.000 Now, on the IDF side, it looks like a very slow, Deliberate clearing operation, but the IDF uniquely, again, are designed for this, right?

01:13:41.000 The IDF isn't like the U.S. 0.57

01:13:42.000 military that has to be prepared to fight globally against our enemies.

01:13:46.000 They're fighting home, literally, like they can see their house from where they're fighting.

01:13:50.000 Right.

01:13:51.000 And they prepared, they have unique bulldozers that we don't have that are two stories tall that can be remote controlled that will go forward into the urban area.

01:14:00.000 Take the shot from the terrorists.

01:14:02.000 And then, okay, now I know where you are, I can drop the building if I want, or engage it with a tank round. 0.98

01:14:09.000 Bit of a movement to contact type of thing.

01:14:12.000 It is, it is.

01:14:12.000 It really is.

01:14:13.000 And this is why it's unique, too.

01:14:15.000 This is something that the IDF hasn't really done in a very long time.

01:14:20.000 Even the past operations into Gaza, I mean, they used to occupy Gaza, right? 0.91

01:14:23.000 They used to- In 2005 they left.

01:14:26.000 That's right.

01:14:26.000 And in 2008, they went back and Operation Cast Lead.

01:14:29.000 In 2014, they went back, but they were very limited operations.

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 Like, they didn't try to punch to the middle of Gaza City.

01:14:34.000 This will be hell.

01:14:35.000 I mean, look up, I mean, 10, 20-story buildings where the enemy could be launching anything down on top of you.

01:14:43.000 This is the ideal, and I know you were talking about before, is the ideal that this can be some type of surgical operation.

01:14:51.000 Like, no.

01:14:51.000 In the history of urban warfare, it will look like It was carpet bombed, even when it wasn't.

01:14:56.000 It'll look like raised earth.

01:14:59.000 It'll look like hell on earth.

01:15:02.000 Is there any, or to what extent, I guess, could civilian casualties, I guess, be avoided?

01:15:08.000 The way you're describing it, is it a lost cause or are there things that can be done?

01:15:13.000 Can I add to that question?

01:15:14.000 Yeah, please do.

01:15:15.000 To add to that question, do you think it's going to be less casualties or less destructive than bombing?

01:15:24.000 Right, so actually this is the paradox why I tell people if you want to cause less destruction in urban areas you need a bulldozer and a tank.

01:15:31.000 Because if not, if you don't have those, if you don't go into an urban area and you try to bomb it, one, there's never been in history that that achieves this level of mission.

01:15:40.000 You don't, you can't even convince the enemy to give up by just straight bombing.

01:15:45.000 And Hamas terrorists is willing to die and actually sacrifice all of their Palestinian civilians in Gaza for their cause, which is the destruction of Israel and all Jewish people.

01:15:56.000 So is it a lost cause?

01:15:57.000 No.

01:15:58.000 Again, there are legal requirements that must be taken by the IDF, like asking civilians to leave, like identifying only military targets.

01:16:07.000 You can't shoot at a hospital, a mosque, anything like that, unless it's being used for military purposes. 0.99

01:16:13.000 So this is the thing that people want to gloss over in the media is that the IDF have done Beyond requirements to get civilians out of the way, right?

01:16:24.000 And that's why amazingly in Jabalo, after that strike, there's hundreds of military age males standing around the crater.

01:16:30.000 Like, what are you doing there?

01:16:31.000 Like that, that, that is just where you've been asked to leave for your own safety, for the safety of your families, if they're still there.

01:16:39.000 Right.

01:16:39.000 So IDF actually does other things that we don't do again, calling buildings before they strike them, like calling everybody and sending everybody into building a text to include the enemy.

01:16:49.000 We're about to hit this building.

01:16:50.000 You have an hour to get out.

01:16:53.000 There's all kinds of things the IDF do to limit civilian casualties.

01:16:58.000 So they have pretty extensive rules of engagement then.

01:17:01.000 They do too, yeah.

01:17:03.000 Positive identification of the enemy.

01:17:06.000 But this is the thing that there's been in the 2017 Battle of Mosul again, it was against ISIS.

01:17:11.000 So I guess the media didn't care as much.

01:17:14.000 There was 10,000 civilian casualties in the Battle of Mosul, which was Iraqi security forces backed by US military airpower.

01:17:22.000 Yeah.

01:17:22.000 Well, I want to continue this, but we're going a little bit over time here.

01:17:25.000 I'd like to continue on Mug Club here in a moment for those, because we can take their chat as well.

01:17:30.000 Where's the best place for people to find you, Jon Spencer?

01:17:32.000 I know your book, Understanding Urban Warfare, is available everywhere.

01:17:35.000 Is there anywhere else people can go?

01:17:37.000 Yeah, johnspenceronline.com.

01:17:39.000 I've tried to throw all my stuff onto that website.

01:17:41.000 Okay, johnspenceronline.com.

01:17:43.000 This is fascinating for me, and I want to hear more between you and Josh.

01:17:47.000 By the way, thank you all for your service.

01:17:48.000 We appreciate it.

01:17:49.000 And if you are watching right now, and we do have an open invitation to any Hamas representative, pro-Palestinian Hamas representative on this show to present their side of the issues.

01:17:58.000 It's not going to be a Pierce Morgan situation.

01:18:01.000 Uh, where we would like to, uh, keep people accountable.

01:18:03.000 And, members of the IDF, I'd love to have a split screen with all of you.

01:18:06.000 This conversation is important.

01:18:07.000 Of course, you know where I line up.

01:18:08.000 I don't lie about my biases.

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