Louder with Crowder - August 14, 2015


Monica Crowley Talks Donald Trump | Louder With Crowder


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On today's show, we have Monica Crowley join us to talk about why she thinks Donald Trump should be the next president, why she's not a Trump supporter, and why she doesn't think Hillary Clinton should win the 2020 election.

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00:00:00.000 Why don't you run for office?
00:00:01.000 Would you vote for me?
00:00:03.000 Yes, I'd vote for you on the butt alone, according to you.
00:00:06.000 Why wouldn't I? I need to get a deal with Skechers. 1.00
00:00:09.000 Well, yeah, they get rid of Kim Kardashian.
00:00:13.000 So glad to have this next guest.
00:00:15.000 Actually, one of the first guests I think we have had on Lauder with Crowder.
00:00:18.000 But it was a while ago, and we were new.
00:00:21.000 We were still kind of getting our sea legs, and she was very tolerant.
00:00:23.000 Fox News contributor.
00:00:24.000 You can read her column at the Washington Times every Thursday.
00:00:28.000 I believe I have that right.
00:00:29.000 Monica Crowley, thank you so much.
00:00:31.000 Hey, Stephen.
00:00:32.000 Always great to be with you.
00:00:33.000 Well, come on.
00:00:34.000 Let's not lay it on too thick right to begin with.
00:00:37.000 We are the best!
00:00:38.000 Right, yes.
00:00:39.000 There is no human who has accomplished more than me.
00:00:41.000 We had to move this a bunch of times.
00:00:43.000 So you were saying, why is your schedule so hairy right now?
00:00:47.000 Is it because of the debates and all the whole controversy with Fox News and Trump?
00:00:51.000 What is it?
00:00:52.000 Well, you know, it's funny.
00:00:53.000 Every August, you think August is going to be sort of calm and relaxing and less stressed than the rest of the year, and it's so not true.
00:01:02.000 Remember, World War I started in August, the guns of August.
00:01:05.000 Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait on August 2nd.
00:01:08.000 Things happen in August.
00:01:10.000 And this year, we've had very interesting domestic developments, haven't we, with the rise of Donald Trump and the debate and the controversies, and I think some of the behind-the-scenes shenanigans happening on the Democratic side.
00:01:22.000 With Hillary, Obama, and the Democratic race.
00:01:25.000 So there are a lot of things that are keeping me running.
00:01:28.000 This is true.
00:01:29.000 Okay, so right off the bat, I know you're pretty even-handed, but people always want to take one soundbite.
00:01:34.000 Are you a Trump fan?
00:01:36.000 Is that your guy, or are you waiting to see it all play out?
00:01:40.000 I would put it this way.
00:01:42.000 I have been giving Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt.
00:01:45.000 I wouldn't say I'm a Trump fan or supporter, per se.
00:01:49.000 But I think that he has tapped into something really important here.
00:01:49.000 Okay.
00:01:53.000 He's giving voice to, I think, what remains of the Tea Party.
00:01:57.000 Normal Americans who just want to take their country back and make America great again, his slogan.
00:02:03.000 It's simple, but it's powerful.
00:02:06.000 And Trump, who is a fighter, who is an extremely successful businessman, so his last name, Trump, is shorthand for the American dream, who also gives off a blue-collar vibe, even though he's worth $10 billion, I think there are so many things that have gone into the Trump phenomenon that if the other candidates were intelligent, and that's a big if, they would be taking notes.
00:02:29.000 They'd be paying close attention to not Donald Trump's style, per se, or the fact he wears the trucker hat and he does all these things that are, you know, wild, but pay close attention to what he is conveying out there that is gaining him so much traction.
00:02:49.000 Yeah, it's funny you mention the blue-collar vibe.
00:02:51.000 I always sort of felt that way when I was at Fox News.
00:02:53.000 You have these hosts making these huge salaries, and they're looking out for the folks.
00:02:57.000 I'm like, you haven't met a folk in 40 years.
00:02:59.000 I have not had that salary.
00:03:00.000 I mean, I could walk away from the table forever if he had Trump's kind of money.
00:03:03.000 He did file Chapter 11 four times and then said he didn't file personal bankruptcy.
00:03:07.000 Here's my issue.
00:03:09.000 First off, I'm not a Trump guy.
00:03:10.000 I'm not convinced, right?
00:03:12.000 This is just my personal opinion.
00:03:13.000 It has nothing to do with where we're going to go with this.
00:03:15.000 When you have the Clintons sit front and center at your wedding, when you supported abortion, when you were pro-gun, it's like what's the flash of genius moment for me is what I'm waiting for.
00:03:24.000 I'm not saying I couldn't possibly be convinced to go Trump.
00:03:27.000 But, you know, if someone invents something, right?
00:03:29.000 There's actually a great film about this called Flash of Genius.
00:03:31.000 They can pin down to everyone who's either invented something or had some great epiphany, what they call the Flash of Genius moment, where they say, when did you hit this point in your life?
00:03:41.000 When did you create this idea?
00:03:43.000 And I was waiting for that from Trump.
00:03:45.000 On the when he became conservative, when he became a Republican, and we didn't really get it.
00:03:50.000 So that was for me with that.
00:03:52.000 But there is a really weird shakeout, and I know you have to be careful because you work there, but you guys must feel the grassroots that have, frankly, a lot of them have turned on Fox News with the Megyn Kelly-Trump thing.
00:04:03.000 A lot of them are really irritated.
00:04:04.000 What's that like still being under the Fox umbrella as that's going down?
00:04:09.000 Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it has calmed down since it first broke on Friday and going into the weekend.
00:04:15.000 I think a lot of it calmed down.
00:04:16.000 But I think a lot of the Fox audience is the Tea Party crowd.
00:04:21.000 It is, you know, normal Americans in the middle of America who have nowhere to go in the media except Fox News and count on Fox News.
00:04:29.000 Not to carry the water of the conservative movement, but to at least be fair, okay?
00:04:35.000 And for all these years, Fox has, and I think the impression out there, fair or not, was that some of the questions for Trump about going bankrupt, about the women's issues and everything else, were unfair because they weren't focused on the issues.
00:04:50.000 The other candidates got issues-oriented questions on ISIS, on reforming Social Security, on dealing with Iran.
00:04:57.000 And Trump was fending off these questions that were personal in nature.
00:05:01.000 Now, you can say, listen, if you're running for president, you have to take all comers.
00:05:04.000 You have to be willing to answer every question, and I totally agree with that.
00:05:08.000 I'm just saying that I think for a lot of viewers, Trump looked like he was being singled out for attack on things that were not related to issues that most Americans really care about.
00:05:21.000 Right.
00:05:22.000 I understand where you're coming from, and I understand where they're coming from, but I think it's, you know, we've always talked about this.
00:05:27.000 They even have a stand-up bit about this, how no one is going to be able to run for president in a couple of decades because all of them have had a Facebook account.
00:05:34.000 They've all been on message boards.
00:05:35.000 Really?
00:05:36.000 You want to run for president?
00:05:38.000 SweetCherry69 at Yahoo.com.
00:05:40.000 Did you not in fact write that this fart montage was of epic win on the, I mean, you know, there's no way it can happen.
00:05:45.000 We're kind of hitting the first time we've seen a reality show president.
00:05:49.000 The reality TV. You know what, I think that's true, but I think running for president has been American Idol for a long time.
00:05:56.000 Good point.
00:05:57.000 Since the advent of television, when my old boss had the first televised debate in 1960 against JFK, Nixon v.
00:06:03.000 JFK. It is all image.
00:06:05.000 It's charisma.
00:06:07.000 It's enthusiasm.
00:06:09.000 It's passion.
00:06:09.000 Right, but my point was the questions, I feel, if it felt like they were singling out Trump, it's because he's been so out there in the public.
00:06:16.000 I mean, that's how he's made most of his money, right?
00:06:18.000 He really became more successful as a business person after Apprentice took off and that allowed him to leverage it, and I'm not begrudging him at all.
00:06:24.000 But that's a big part of what makes up the Trump brand, not so much with, say, a Cruz or a Fiorina or maybe a Ben Carson.
00:06:33.000 So...
00:06:34.000 Wouldn't it be incredibly fair to ask that, since that's how he's made so many of his bones?
00:06:39.000 Look, every question to me, if you're running for president, you better be prepared for all of it.
00:06:43.000 I make no excuses for any question.
00:06:46.000 You get a question, you know how to answer it, or at least should at that level.
00:06:49.000 Take Donald Trump, the persona, out of it for a second, and I know that's hard because he's such a big personality, but I've identified three things, Stephen, of what he is doing and saying, the subtext of what he is doing out there.
00:07:02.000 That I think are critical, apart from him.
00:07:05.000 The first is that the American people are sick and tired of being called the enemy in their own country.
00:07:11.000 If you don't agree with the leftist agenda, you're a racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe, a bigot.
00:07:17.000 You know this better than anybody because you write and do things about this all the time.
00:07:21.000 The American people are saying, wait a minute, we're not the enemy in our own country.
00:07:24.000 We have actual enemies who are here and abroad.
00:07:27.000 We're not it.
00:07:29.000 Trump champions America, and he champions Americans, and he's saying, no, you guys aren't the enemy.
00:07:34.000 That's number one.
00:07:35.000 Number two, his catchphrase, you're fired, that is the subtext of everything he's doing and saying out there, because it's at the GOP establishment, you're fired.
00:07:45.000 It's to the lamestream media, you're fired.
00:07:47.000 It's to the leftists in the White House and running the country right now, you're fired.
00:07:52.000 That's a very powerful thing as well.
00:07:54.000 And the second thing is, he has literally made the most important statement in this entire campaign when he said, I'm rich.
00:08:02.000 I'm really rich.
00:08:04.000 Because after decades, and certainly in the last seven years, Of the wealthy being demonized and achievement being demonized, he goes out there unlike Mitt Romney and has unapologetically said, yeah, I'm rich and I embrace it.
00:08:18.000 And you know what?
00:08:19.000 I want an America where everybody can make $10 billion.
00:08:23.000 I'm telling you, Stephen, that is an incredibly powerful poll.
00:08:27.000 So you can say what you want about Trump and, oh, he's a clown and whatever, and try to dismiss him.
00:08:33.000 Oh, I've not said that.
00:08:34.000 I'm the clown.
00:08:35.000 But pay close attention to those three things because they're incredibly powerful polls on the voters.
00:08:42.000 I think they are.
00:08:43.000 I think a big part of it, I think, like you've said, he's a symptom.
00:08:48.000 He's a symptom right now of something the Republican Party has created.
00:08:51.000 And I get that.
00:08:52.000 They're upset.
00:08:53.000 And that's why, listen, I understand why, again, I understand we have to be careful since I understand why a lot of people are upset with Fox News.
00:08:59.000 I think they see it, you know, listen, it's no secret that cable isn't really doing that well for anybody.
00:09:04.000 And I think they've seen it go a little bit more centrist or appear that way.
00:09:08.000 And they've I feel like Fox News has been pushing Jeb Bush.
00:09:11.000 Now, having worked there, I know they don't have a secret meeting behind anyone's back and say, we're pushing Jeb, see?
00:09:16.000 But they feel that way.
00:09:17.000 And so they see Fox now as more of an establishment kind of centrist Republican network.
00:09:23.000 And they see them trying to force Trump out.
00:09:26.000 So I can understand why people feel that way.
00:09:27.000 I think he's a symptom of people who are really tired of the status quo with politics.
00:09:32.000 Now, that being said, I find it ironic that what's sort of...
00:09:36.000 In order to attack what they see as a centrist sort of semi-liberal network now, which is absurd, they've needed a full-on card-carrying Democrat until 2008 and Donald Trump to do it.
00:09:48.000 So I understand the dialogue that needs to take place.
00:09:50.000 I just think it's taking place for all the wrong reasons right now and not a lot.
00:09:56.000 It's not being very productive.
00:09:58.000 The Kelly-Trump thing just seemed to me like it was incredibly unproductive.
00:10:02.000 Is that just me?
00:10:04.000 No, I agree with you.
00:10:05.000 I think it was a big distraction.
00:10:06.000 I think it wasted a lot of time on all fronts.
00:10:09.000 Things happen.
00:10:10.000 You get these, and I mean, we're all on Twitter, right?
00:10:14.000 You get these little flashpoints.
00:10:16.000 You get these dust storms that happen and sort of consume everybody for a day or two days or a couple of days, and then they die down and go away, and you're on to the next dust storm.
00:10:25.000 That's what I think that was.
00:10:27.000 But set apart, again, the specifics of Trump and what just happened there.
00:10:31.000 Sure.
00:10:32.000 They want a fighter.
00:10:34.000 Show me somebody who's going to push back.
00:10:36.000 When Trump said, hey, if the Black Lives Matter folks, try to step on me and take my podium on my mic, I'm fighting back.
00:10:44.000 That's the kind of thing people want to see.
00:10:46.000 You mentioned Jeb Bush.
00:10:47.000 Jeb Bush, you could physically see him recede on that stage that night.
00:10:51.000 Scott Walker, too.
00:10:52.000 God love him.
00:10:53.000 I mean, I admire Walker so much that he could go all the way.
00:10:56.000 But Walker, they're so low-key.
00:10:59.000 They don't show any energy.
00:11:01.000 Voters now are like, oh my god, okay, so we've been through the wars of Bush, and now we've been through the wars of Obama.
00:11:06.000 We're exhausted.
00:11:07.000 We want somebody to do the fighting for us.
00:11:10.000 And that's why Trump has tapped into that.
00:11:13.000 Like him or not, agree with him or not, he's going to have to flesh out his positions on all these issues.
00:11:19.000 I'm totally with you on that.
00:11:21.000 But it's the bigger vibe he's putting out there where he is finally standing up for the country and for normal regular Americans.
00:11:28.000 Well, I understand that.
00:11:28.000 But do you think that maybe – do you think considering how inconsistent he's been – I mean just woefully so – do you think that maybe he understands what you're talking about from a business sense and is using it to help Trump as opposed to maybe actually really trying to spearhead a new conservative movement?
00:11:43.000 I'm not saying that's the case, but wouldn't that be a valid criticism considering he's been so – I mean he has yet to really attack Hillary Clinton.
00:11:50.000 Certainly not like Fiorina or someone like Cruz.
00:11:52.000 Oh, no, I disagree with you.
00:11:53.000 He's the only one out there calling her a criminal.
00:11:56.000 No, look, they've all attacked Hillary in different ways. 0.99
00:12:00.000 Carly Fiorina said that she has lied about Benghazi, lied about the server, and now we've got the FBI launching a full-on investigation.
00:12:07.000 They have been criticizing her, but I think Trump goes right out there and literally called her a criminal.
00:12:12.000 Basically said she should be in jail. 0.80
00:12:15.000 Look, Donald Trump...
00:12:17.000 I don't know whether he's got the fire in the belly to go all the way or can keep from really stepping in and going all the way, but what I do see, Stephen, is a real change in the dynamic out there.
00:12:30.000 Where when you say, well, we don't know if he's a conservative, he's been Democrat before, he's given to Democrats, all that is true.
00:12:36.000 And as a conservative, I don't necessarily trust his instincts.
00:12:39.000 I mean, he said he would fund partially Planned Parenthood.
00:12:43.000 Okay, I got a big problem with that.
00:12:44.000 But I also think that a lot of people don't care.
00:12:48.000 I think a lot of people are like, you know what, I don't care.
00:12:51.000 I just want somebody who's going to fight for me.
00:12:54.000 Yeah, I don't think he will.
00:12:55.000 I think he fights for Trump.
00:12:56.000 That's my issue.
00:12:57.000 I don't think he'll fight for anyone but Trump.
00:12:59.000 I've got to disagree with you there, too, because I know him a little bit.
00:13:01.000 Not well, but I know him a little bit.
00:13:02.000 And I know he loves his country body and soul.
00:13:05.000 He is a true American patriot.
00:13:06.000 And I think that's the issue.
00:13:06.000 See, that's the issue.
00:13:07.000 And I don't say this because...
00:13:09.000 Sweetheart, I love you.
00:13:10.000 But I think that's the issue people have with media, is people saying, well, because I know Trump, because I know...
00:13:14.000 Listen...
00:13:16.000 They're golfing buddies with executives at Fox.
00:13:18.000 OK, let's just be real here.
00:13:19.000 I think that's a big part of what people don't like.
00:13:22.000 And they feel like Trump is exposing it a little bit.
00:13:24.000 You know, when he says he buys off politicians and he's proud of it, he exposed it.
00:13:28.000 But the fact is, anytime you see someone expose something, you know, that's working in media, often they're exposing something so that they're hiding something else.
00:13:37.000 And Trump doesn't talk about his cozy relationships with people over there at maybe Fox News, at CNN, and we all know he has them.
00:13:43.000 You know him personally, but of course I know you to be an ethical journalist.
00:13:47.000 I don't know that everyone on either side is.
00:13:48.000 We have to go to a break, and I want to bring you back because I like what you have to say.
00:13:52.000 Monica Crowley, louder with Crowder.
00:13:52.000 I dig it.
00:13:53.000 Stay tuned!
00:13:54.000 We are back with Fox News contributor, Washington Times columnist.
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00:14:00.000 Thursdays and also follow her on Twitter.
00:14:02.000 Monica Crowley, thanks for being back.
00:14:04.000 Alright, I hear where you're coming from on Trump and I agree with you on a lot.
00:14:07.000 I think the issue, we're kind of getting into Sarah Palin territory where there's no room for an in-between for a critical look.
00:14:13.000 Either people are all in for Trump and, I mean, if I say anything about Trump, the tweets are, so you love Bush and you think Obama's done a great job?
00:14:20.000 I've been critical of Jeb for a long time.
00:14:23.000 I'm not a fan of him.
00:14:25.000 I don't even know if I'd vote if it were Jeb Bush.
00:14:28.000 Frankly, I honestly don't.
00:14:30.000 Do you feel like we've hit that ground, like Sarah Palin, where either everyone is all in or people can't stand them, there's no room for in between?
00:14:36.000 I'm not sure I'd go that far.
00:14:39.000 I do see the emotional reactions to Trump.
00:14:43.000 And certainly when this whole thing came down, another weird dynamic happened where you had a lot of women, including black women, defending Trump and pushing back on Megyn Kelly and saying, leave Trump alone, kind of thing.
00:14:55.000 Like that old Britney Spears. 0.84
00:14:57.000 Oh yeah, those two women were hilarious. 1.00
00:14:59.000 Leave Britney alone, you know, leave Donald Trump alone. 1.00
00:15:01.000 Chris Crocker.
00:15:02.000 Yeah.
00:15:03.000 Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton was defending Megyn Kelly.
00:15:05.000 So there are very weird dynamics and weird bedfellows going on here.
00:15:11.000 And people do feel emotionally invested in this race, because I think a lot of voters feel like this is the last chance.
00:15:17.000 You know, we've been saying this for a couple of election cycles now, but I think probably this one is it, because if you don't, Have a conservative in there, even a Republican.
00:15:26.000 I mean, Jeb, to me, is the worst possible candidate you can put up.
00:15:30.000 But if he's the nominee, I will vote for him because this is last chance station.
00:15:33.000 If you don't repeal and reverse pretty much everything Obama has done, then the country is gone.
00:15:40.000 Well, that's a perfect example right there, right?
00:15:41.000 A pivotal issue is the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, as people call it.
00:15:46.000 Trump's the only one on that stage who unapologetically said that he thought single-payer, socialized health care worked great in Canada.
00:15:53.000 Then he regurgitated some old, tired talking point from the Republican Party about across state lines.
00:15:57.000 But the fact remains, he genuinely thinks that single-payer socialized health care is a good thing in several countries.
00:16:03.000 And he hasn't walked that back.
00:16:05.000 Being from Canada, I'm going, we're talking about him making a menstruation maybe joke about Megyn Kelly when he just supported socialized health care, said it worked?
00:16:15.000 That is such a deal-breaker to me.
00:16:17.000 I'm amazed nobody else is really talking about it.
00:16:20.000 Yeah, I know.
00:16:21.000 Again, I think at this early stage, people don't care much.
00:16:24.000 They will, okay?
00:16:26.000 That will turn, you know, when people start to get really serious about casting their vote.
00:16:30.000 People are invested in their vote.
00:16:31.000 It's like spending money.
00:16:33.000 Your vote is like a $100 bill.
00:16:35.000 You're not going to just lay it down willy-nilly.
00:16:37.000 You're going to know what you're buying here.
00:16:39.000 So I think that will change.
00:16:41.000 But as of right now, people don't really care.
00:16:43.000 But that's hypocrisy.
00:16:45.000 And that's hypocrisy.
00:16:46.000 And that's why I don't do any media outside of my own anymore.
00:16:50.000 I genuinely feel like the conservative base can be just as easily manipulated as the leftist base right now.
00:16:56.000 When they made the whole thing about Obamacare, bumper stickers everywhere, no-Bamacare, all this stuff, all the silly nicknames, right?
00:17:03.000 And I was at a tea party.
00:17:04.000 I spoke at the very first tea party with Michelle Malkin.
00:17:07.000 I was a supporter of it.
00:17:08.000 I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a part of it.
00:17:10.000 But when no-Bamacare, that's the biggest issue.
00:17:12.000 And then they say, well, now we don't care if Donald Trump supports even more liberal health care than Barack Obama.
00:17:19.000 That, to me, shows an inconsistency of, I think, a contingency of people who, frankly, are being manipulated.
00:17:24.000 I think you're thinking too much about this right now.
00:17:27.000 I think they're not responding to his issue positions yet.
00:17:34.000 He doesn't have one.
00:17:36.000 Right, and that will become clear, and then people will take second looks at other candidates, and it will wash out the way it's supposed to wash out.
00:17:45.000 But what I'm saying is right now they're responding to something else.
00:17:48.000 And it's not that they're being bought.
00:17:50.000 I mean, you know, the Tea Party crowd.
00:17:51.000 I do have spoken at Tea Party.
00:17:53.000 These are normal Americans who want somebody who's actually going to stand up and fight.
00:17:57.000 Ted Cruz has stood up on Obamacare and fought and took all the slings and arrows from his own side, his own leadership, the media, the left, the Democrats.
00:18:05.000 I mean, you name it.
00:18:06.000 And he's still standing.
00:18:08.000 I think Ted Cruz is actually very smart to hang out in the draft of Donald Trump and be the only one not critical of him.
00:18:17.000 Because the more they smile on Trump, the more his numbers go up.
00:18:20.000 People feel like they want to defend him.
00:18:22.000 But Cruz has been very smart.
00:18:24.000 He's saying, no, this is foolish.
00:18:25.000 Pay attention to what he's creating out there and what he's tapping into.
00:18:29.000 I think Cruz is actually handling this the smartest way, because he actually is the fighter, along with Scott Walker.
00:18:36.000 They have proven records of standing up to the left and fighting back.
00:18:39.000 That's what voters want, and I think once the Trump phenomenon becomes less of a novelty, I think that's what the Republican primary voters want.
00:18:54.000 I think when it comes to a general, people want someone who they feel is strong in leadership and is an effective communicator.
00:18:59.000 And that's the issue I think Ted Cruz is going to have.
00:19:02.000 And I love the guy.
00:19:03.000 I've known Ted Cruz.
00:19:04.000 My family lives in Texas for a long time when he was getting started.
00:19:07.000 I know the people who work with him.
00:19:09.000 I just can't get past the Mr.
00:19:11.000 Rogers delivery that people, when you look at national polls, feel is a little disingenuous.
00:19:16.000 So I think we need to separate maybe right now what is necessary for these primaries.
00:19:20.000 And I think Trump is tapping into something versus who's going to beat Hillary Clinton.
00:19:25.000 And I think that narrows the field a little bit.
00:19:27.000 I think, listen, there are a lot of things with which I disagree with her.
00:19:30.000 As a matter of fact, you know who I think was handling this really well was Carly Fiorina until the Megyn Kelly thing. 0.92
00:19:35.000 I would have gone a different angle as a woman with that because there is such a large contingency of people who are so tired with feminism that I think they just rejected and went after Megyn Kelly. 1.00
00:19:46.000 Period.
00:19:47.000 Because they're tired of anyone playing those cards.
00:19:49.000 And I think she waded into that a little bit, Carly, and I think she would have been better to attack Trump's manhood because then you'd see him fly off the handle and yell all kinds of misogynistic epithets where he would be off the rails.
00:20:01.000 But, you know, imagine if someone just came out and said, well, if Donald Trump can't handle these kinds of questions from Megyn Kelly, I guess I, Carly Fiorina, am more of a man than Donald Trump to run for president.
00:20:10.000 Oh! 0.60
00:20:11.000 You know that would happen and I would pay a nickel to watch that wrestling match at Raw. 1.00
00:20:17.000 I agree with you.
00:20:19.000 Attacking Trump doesn't serve any purpose.
00:20:21.000 Perry might have killed his chances doing that.
00:20:23.000 It just doesn't look good for anyone right now.
00:20:25.000 You know, if you say something about Trump, we've noticed that with the website.
00:20:29.000 We can't post all pro-Trump stuff because I'm not huge on Trump.
00:20:32.000 But if we post anything critical, people just say you're a rhino and they turn on you.
00:20:36.000 Why do you think Cruz is the only one who sees that?
00:20:39.000 Well, you know, he's a brilliant guy, so I think he understands what's going on here.
00:20:44.000 He's also totally plugged into the conservative base, the Tea Party, the evangelicals, and he knows what they're thinking.
00:20:51.000 Everything that I laid out to you earlier in this interview about being turned into the enemy in their own country and wanting to fire the GOP leadership and the media and the left and the Democrats, all the things that Trump is giving voice to, Cruz understands, and Cruz has been doing it.
00:21:06.000 This whole time.
00:21:07.000 So I think what he knows is, look, Donald Trump is not somebody who's going to be pushed out of this race.
00:21:14.000 Hold that thought.
00:21:14.000 One second.
00:21:15.000 We have to do this break.
00:21:16.000 You know these damn commercial breaks.
00:21:17.000 Keep the lights on.
00:21:18.000 Monica Crowley, brilliant, also an attractive blonde who works at Fox News.
00:21:21.000 Stay tuned.
00:21:22.000 She has to leave soon, so Monica Crowley, Fox News contributor, is here.
00:21:26.000 Monica, sorry to take up so much of your time.
00:21:29.000 Okay, you wanted to finish the thought you were making about Trump.
00:21:32.000 I forgot it.
00:21:33.000 Oh, gosh.
00:21:34.000 These commercials.
00:21:36.000 This is why people hate...
00:21:37.000 I'm sorry I spaced out.
00:21:38.000 Oh, I think what I was saying was about Ted Cruz sort of maximizing what Trump is onto here.
00:21:46.000 And I think that the others basically should get out of the way, let Trump make the path for them, but understand what he's doing here and back off the criticism of Leave the guy alone, like that Britney Spears YouTube thing.
00:22:01.000 Yeah, and it will redound.
00:22:03.000 He is masculine now, did you know that?
00:22:04.000 Chris Crocker?
00:22:05.000 He was like full-on looked like a woman, and now he's gone back to looking like a guy, and he's, I guess, sort of, well, not gender fluid, he's sexual orientation fluid.
00:22:15.000 Oh, I did not know that.
00:22:16.000 Oh, by the way, I know what I wanted to say now.
00:22:19.000 You're gender fluid? 1.00
00:22:20.000 No, I'm not.
00:22:21.000 I am definitely a girl.
00:22:23.000 Okay.
00:22:24.000 You mentioned Hillary Clinton running against Hillary.
00:22:27.000 She's not going to be the nominee.
00:22:29.000 No, you think of Sanders?
00:22:30.000 No.
00:22:31.000 I wrote a column two weeks ago saying that what is happening here is that Barack Obama is taking Hillary Clinton out.
00:22:38.000 And I recommend my column to everybody in the Washington Times that ran two weeks ago.
00:22:42.000 So do I. It's called It's Obama Taking Hillary Out. 0.54
00:22:44.000 And what is happening now with this DOJ investigation, the FBI now seizing her server and her emails and the thumb drives...
00:22:53.000 That investigation would not be going forward if Barack Obama didn't want it to go forward.
00:22:59.000 As we know from the IRS investigations, the VA investigations, Obama stops anything that he doesn't want moving forward.
00:23:07.000 He wants this investigation.
00:23:08.000 He loathes the Clintons.
00:23:10.000 He wants her out because he needs a successor who will give him a third term.
00:23:15.000 He needs somebody he can control.
00:23:17.000 And no, it's not Bernie Sanders.
00:23:18.000 It's Joe Biden.
00:23:20.000 I lay out the entire scenario about how Barack Obama's taking her out, he's doing her in, and he is going to support his own vice president, giving him the full weight of the White House, all of the technical infrastructure that they used in 08 and 12, the social media and all the rest of it.
00:23:35.000 Hillary Clinton has been begging for that for seven years. 1.00
00:23:38.000 He refused to turn it over to her, and now we know why.
00:23:43.000 They're sounding a little bit fluoride in the tap conspiracy theory-ish, but I think you're right.
00:23:48.000 I think it's actually probably a good read.
00:23:48.000 I do.
00:23:50.000 I don't know that it'll necessarily work, though.
00:23:53.000 I don't know that Biden...
00:23:55.000 I tell you what, though.
00:23:57.000 If the nominees become Donald Trump and Joseph Biden...
00:24:03.000 As a comedian, there is nothing that I would want more than that.
00:24:08.000 I mean, don't get me wrong.
00:24:08.000 I think our country would go to hell in a handbasket.
00:24:10.000 I think it would be such a fun debate to watch.
00:24:14.000 I can't even get my head around it.
00:24:15.000 Gosh, I guess...
00:24:16.000 Then maybe VPs would be like Bernie Sanders versus Fiorina.
00:24:20.000 I would just...
00:24:21.000 Oh, I would murder for them.
00:24:23.000 You know what the...
00:24:24.000 I know, it would be so delicious.
00:24:25.000 But you know what the Democratic ticket's going to be?
00:24:27.000 It's going to be Joe Biden because Obama's going to back Biden, and he's going to make it clear to minority voters that Biden is his guy, so he will get the black vote, the Latino vote, and everything.
00:24:36.000 They will follow Obama's lead.
00:24:38.000 And the vice president, because if they marginalize Hillary with an indictment or a special prosecutor, whatever they're going to do, they're going to need to make it up to women, so it's going to be Elizabeth Warren. 1.00
00:24:50.000 You will have a Biden-Warren ticket.
00:24:53.000 Elizabeth Warren makes it up to women, and she makes it up to the far left. 1.00
00:24:57.000 Mark my words, you heard it.
00:24:58.000 Here first on Ladderwood Crowder, the 10th ticket will be Biden-Warren.
00:25:03.000 I was going to say Satan, but I guess the two are interchangeable at this point.
00:25:06.000 Well, I mean, yeah, it's redundant.
00:25:08.000 I feel like Warren has Satan on the red devil phone.
00:25:12.000 She just sends out the Satan signal to this guy like...
00:25:15.000 There's a baby!
00:25:16.000 Ow! 1.00
00:25:16.000 Let's kill it! 1.00
00:25:17.000 Speed dial.
00:25:18.000 Yes, exactly.
00:25:19.000 Elizabeth Warren.
00:25:19.000 Gosh, gosh.
00:25:20.000 And I always used to get her messed up just in my brain of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
00:25:25.000 And I know they look nothing alike, but so many of their stories were so interchangeable for a while, where in my head I'd go, now which cackling, shrill, evil broad said this?
00:25:35.000 Go through my mental Rolodex.
00:25:38.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, Elizabeth Warren.
00:25:40.000 Yeah.
00:25:40.000 Gosh, that would be a rough, rough four years if it were Biden and Elizabeth Warren.
00:25:46.000 And you know she would have just his gonads in a vice. 1.00
00:25:49.000 There's no way he'd be making actual decisions if she's on there.
00:25:52.000 She's wearing those pants, don't you think? 0.98
00:25:55.000 Absolutely.
00:25:56.000 Although, remember, Barack Obama for years has said, oh, I can win a third term.
00:26:01.000 And he just said it a couple weeks ago.
00:26:03.000 Again, that is a very revealing tell.
00:26:06.000 Whenever he says that.
00:26:07.000 He needs a third term and obviously can't run, although he's shredded the Constitution in every other way.
00:26:12.000 But he needs somebody he can control, and he knows that he can control Biden.
00:26:18.000 Biden will be a handmaiden to Barack Obama.
00:26:20.000 He'll do whatever.
00:26:21.000 He's not going to reverse anything.
00:26:22.000 He's not going to sing to his own playbook.
00:26:25.000 He will sing according to the Obama playbook, and Obama knows that.
00:26:29.000 I don't think it's necessarily wrong for Barack Obama to think he could win a third term, though.
00:26:34.000 As much as it pains me to say it, I do think if he were able to run, the guy is so good at campaigning and everything is in such disarray right now.
00:26:42.000 I wouldn't be surprised if he were to win.
00:26:43.000 I know that sounds sacrilegious.
00:26:45.000 I'm not saying I'd like it.
00:26:46.000 I don't think he's entirely wrong in that statement.
00:26:48.000 Am I out of line?
00:26:49.000 No.
00:26:50.000 No.
00:26:50.000 I mean, look, if he could do it, if he could pull it off, and like I said, he's ravaged the Constitution in every way possible before this, so if he thought he could do it, he would.
00:27:00.000 He would.
00:27:02.000 That would, of course, annoy Bill Clinton, who has been agitating for a change in the 22nd Amendment so he could run for a third term.
00:27:09.000 Right.
00:27:09.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:27:11.000 Well, I mean, if Hillary goes in, it might as well. 1.00
00:27:11.000 Gosh. 1.00
00:27:13.000 I don't know.
00:27:14.000 I don't really know.
00:27:14.000 A lot of people thought he would be pulling the strings with Hillary.
00:27:16.000 I think it was more so she was pulling the strings with him back then.
00:27:19.000 I mean, not only is she obviously...
00:27:21.000 By the way, I'm not entirely convinced that Hillary Clinton is interested in Madden.
00:27:25.000 Monica Crowley didn't say it.
00:27:25.000 Just so...
00:27:26.000 Just for the record, I would not be...
00:27:28.000 Let's be honest here.
00:27:29.000 No one would be surprised, right?
00:27:30.000 If Hillary Clinton were done with her political career and it came out that she had some secret lover named Ethel, we'd all go, yeah, sure.
00:27:36.000 It doesn't surprise us.
00:27:37.000 She clearly wasn't interested in her husband, and it was clearly a marriage of convenience.
00:27:40.000 I don't think anybody would be surprised.
00:27:42.000 Just like I don't think anyone would be surprised if Al Gore's the masseuses he was turning out to turned out to be men.
00:27:47.000 But I do think that Hillary Clinton... 1.00
00:27:50.000 I don't know.
00:28:15.000 You don't think Hillary Clinton has the kind of leverage where she can make him do whatever she wants when she knows there's a sexual harassment lawsuit? 1.00
00:28:21.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:28:22.000 And I think that's why he gave her the whole healthcare portfolio in 93 and 94.
00:28:27.000 It was like to placate her, get her out of his hair, you know, go and do your thing.
00:28:32.000 This is a major policy initiative.
00:28:33.000 Go and do it.
00:28:34.000 Oh, yeah.
00:28:35.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:28:36.000 Do you think he's really a vegan?
00:28:37.000 Do you think Bill Clinton is really a vegan now?
00:28:39.000 Uh, yeah, because he looks kind of frail and pale.
00:28:43.000 So I don't think he's...
00:28:44.000 I don't think he's consuming any meat.
00:28:46.000 I know you have to go soon.
00:28:47.000 Let me ask you this, though.
00:28:48.000 Last time, it's totally unpolitically related.
00:28:50.000 Last time I saw you, you were wearing those shoes, those fitness shoes, those, like, Skechers.
00:28:55.000 You still doing that deal?
00:28:57.000 I love Skechers. 1.00
00:29:00.000 Yeah, I have their sneakers, their walking shoes, and their flats.
00:29:03.000 Well, what was it, though, that shoe that was, like, the big trend?
00:29:05.000 It was supposed to work out your...
00:29:08.000 Oh yeah, the butt, right. 0.79
00:29:09.000 But then there was a lawsuit against Skechers saying it was an unverifiable claim, so they had to take it away.
00:29:15.000 But I have to say, my butt's looking pretty fierce, so I think it might be working.
00:29:19.000 Good for you, but how dare you play the butt card as a woman and then you know you're going to get the backlash. 1.00
00:29:28.000 With the Megyn Kelly thing... 1.00
00:29:31.000 Now, do you do Kelly's show very often?
00:29:33.000 I know you do Bill's show, so I know I have to be careful with this.
00:29:36.000 Do you do her show very often?
00:29:38.000 Once in a while.
00:29:39.000 Once in a while.
00:29:40.000 Yeah.
00:29:40.000 Yeah, I'm not a huge fan.
00:29:41.000 I'm not a huge fan because after I left Fox News, there's some guy, and I sat across from her many times there, some guy did some online video.
00:29:47.000 That's the problem with media now, is no one can play nice with each other.
00:29:50.000 But the one thing is, I think it was an appropriate question.
00:29:53.000 Do you think it might have been better played for her to come out and speak against the people kind of playing the delicate flower, she's a woman, Trump was out of line?
00:30:01.000 Because it seemed like a lot of people were saying, listen, she's a strong woman, why doesn't she handle herself with this? 0.93
00:30:05.000 There just seemed to be an awkward silence when that was going on.
00:30:10.000 Is there something we don't know about?
00:30:12.000 Well, Megyn Kelly's a big girl. 0.97
00:30:14.000 She's tough as nails, so I'm not really worried about her.
00:30:17.000 I actually focus more on Donald Trump, and I think the way he should have answered that question was, You know what, Megan, first of all, I can't remember any of those quotes.
00:30:26.000 Secondly, if they are attributable to me, I'd like to hear the whole context because we know about the one about a woman on her knees was taken completely out of context.
00:30:34.000 That's true.
00:30:34.000 About begging him for a job, not, you know, sexually servicing him.
00:30:39.000 And the third point I would say was I would have looked at her and said, Megan, if you want to talk about the mistreatment of women, I'm happy to talk about ISIS selling women into sex slavery. 0.99
00:30:48.000 Or the Taliban shooting Malala in the head because she demanded education.
00:30:52.000 Any of those issues I'm happy to talk about.
00:30:55.000 Why don't you run for office?
00:30:56.000 Would you vote for me?
00:30:58.000 Yes, I'd vote for you on the butt alone, according to you.
00:31:01.000 Why wouldn't I? I need to get a deal with Skechers. 1.00
00:31:04.000 Well, yeah, they get rid of Kim Kardashian.
00:31:06.000 She was there for a while.
00:31:08.000 That's a good point.
00:31:10.000 Okay, last question.
00:31:11.000 We'll let you go.
00:31:12.000 Obviously, people are talking about this.
00:31:14.000 When he said, or whatever, do you think it was a menstrual joke?
00:31:18.000 Or do you think he just wasn't sharp enough to go through his mental Rolodex and say, um, no's?
00:31:23.000 Look, I don't know.
00:31:24.000 All I know is when I'm on, you know, radio or television or something, your mind is working so fast, especially in a pressure cooker like a debate or, you know, on a television interview.
00:31:36.000 I, you know, given what I know about Donald Trump, I do not think he would be that crass.
00:31:43.000 So I actually think he was like in the middle of a thought and then jumped to the next thought.
00:31:48.000 And it came out that way, I do not think.
00:31:51.000 I actually take his explanation at face value.
00:31:53.000 I don't think he was going there.
00:31:55.000 I think he meant, you know, nose, other orifice of her head, you know, bleeding out of the head and that kind of thing.
00:32:01.000 Just get him the kindergarten songbook.
00:32:06.000 Head and shoulders, knees and toes, eyes, ears, mouth and nose.
00:32:09.000 I want our president to at least be able to go through a preschool nursery rhyme Rolodex of words so that he can pick the right one.
00:32:18.000 So either way, isn't that a little bit of an issue?
00:32:21.000 I know.
00:32:22.000 Look, would I have said those things?
00:32:24.000 No...
00:32:24.000 But I also think, again, I keep getting back to, I think a lot of voters look at him and go, he's a little bit of an a-hole, he's a little bit of a jerk, but you know what?
00:32:34.000 That could make him a really great president.
00:32:36.000 That's all I'm going to say.
00:32:37.000 No, I think well-worded, very clever.
00:32:40.000 We tried to get the back talk out of Monica Crowley in class, as always. 1.00
00:32:47.000 Read her columns, Washington Times, every Thursday, right, Monica?
00:32:50.000 Yes, everythursdaywashingtontimes.com.
00:32:52.000 I've got an interview with Carly Fiorina this week.
00:32:54.000 Oh, we had her last week, so tell her I say hello, and I'm interested to see what she does, and we'll have you back sometime with Skype, because everyone wants to see your, you know, come on, that's a big selling point for me.
00:33:05.000 I know, I know, I can't even turn on my TV, but okay, we will work on Skype.
00:33:11.000 I'll make you walk me through installing it and getting it up and Okay.
00:33:16.000 Thank you so much, Monica.
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