Louder with Crowder - 🔴 Nick Fuentes Sits Down with Crowder 2025-12-04 18:05

00:00:00.000 Benefit, but in the long term, I worry about that.

00:00:03.000 Yeah, I definitely think it's better in the long term.

00:00:05.000 And I agree with you completely on 600,000 Chinese students.

00:00:08.000 I don't know if you saw we did an entire hour on that.

00:00:11.000 H-1Bs, I was throttled as a result from, well, I can't say Elon Musk directly, but I believe I perhaps called him a retard, whatever it was. 1.00

00:00:21.000 I insulted him quite publicly and, you know, for my troubles, made $27 in the course of a month on X. Ashley Sinclair made like 26 grand in two weeks.

00:00:30.000 Who knew, right?

00:00:30.000 That's kind of odd.

00:00:32.000 So, yeah, I agree with you on H-1Bs. 0.96

00:00:35.000 I will tell you, worse than 600,000 Chinese students would be another 15 to 20 million illegals and changing the census rule, which is what we were looking at, where that redistricts the entire map. 0.98

00:00:44.000 And there's no chance to any type of conservative, Republican, nationalist populist being elected again.

00:00:50.000 And I do think that there was a lot of progress made.

00:00:53.000 I would go, I mean, a lot of wins, not only the board.

00:00:55.000 99% is not marginal to me as far as reduction.

00:00:58.000 I think that's pretty significant.

00:01:00.000 But I'd like to go to, I understand where you're coming from.

00:01:03.000 I understand that perspective, but I also don't understand what the threshold is as far as, okay, burn it all down or we want to delegitimize the system.

00:01:13.000 Because I know we lived through that.

00:01:15.000 Like you just said, Republicans thought it was an illegitimate election.

00:01:19.000 I did as well.

00:01:20.000 Not a whole bunch of folks at the Daily Wire back then.

00:01:22.000 So I think we were on the same page.

00:01:26.000 And I also, obviously, when we had the lockdowns, all of that, we then lived through four years of Biden, right?

00:01:32.000 So it was already seen as not legitimate.

00:01:35.000 We saw the results.

00:01:37.000 I think the results of not electing another Biden is better.

00:01:40.000 But I would like to roll a clip because I think it's in this vein and might help set it up.

00:01:45.000 It was where you discussed, oh, Epstein, too.

00:01:47.000 That's one thing.

00:01:48.000 Of course, I absolutely agree.

00:01:49.000 I don't know if you know, I recreated the Epstein cell down to the millimeter and tried to hang myself with a force meter.

00:01:54.000 I saw that, yeah.

00:01:56.000 It's possible, not likely.

00:01:58.000 So I thought it was a huge mistake. 1.00

00:01:59.000 I think Pam Bonnie's an idiot. 1.00

00:02:01.000 And I mean, actually, like an idiot, like she potentially could be a mongoloid using the term hate speech. 1.00

00:02:06.000 She's a moron. 1.00

00:02:08.000 And I've always said that using the term, and that rollout was terrible. 1.00

00:02:12.000 That doesn't undo the things that a lot of people who elected not just Trump, but the cultural wins that they want.

00:02:20.000 I think there's a lot of good there, and I don't think burning it down is the best approach.

00:02:24.000 But here you mentioned a new potential coalition, and I think sort of lay out a prescription as to how to go forward.

00:02:29.000 I'd like to ask you about it.

00:02:30.000 And again, we'll make the link to the full show available so that no one mischaracterizes anything.

00:02:36.000 RoCanna and Thomas Massey working together against the interests to compel the files.

00:02:43.000 What do you think that has?

00:02:44.000 A 90% approval rating?

00:02:47.000 If you had progressive Democrats and nationalist Republicans working together, let's say to compel the release of the Epstein files, what kind of approval rating do you think that has?

00:03:00.000 90%.

00:03:03.000 And what if they got together and they opposed foreign aid to Israel?

00:03:07.000 What approval rating do you think that would have?

00:03:09.000 90%?

00:03:10.000 Do you think that Republicans or independents running under that brand, do you think that that would become more popular or less popular over time?

00:03:19.000 Four becomes eight, eight becomes 16.

00:03:24.000 It snowballs.

00:03:26.000 And we need to propel someone into the White House that is just a populist. 0.86

00:03:30.000 If the right can come down on health care and on a social safety net and maybe on some subsidies for education, and if the left can come down on the anti-white open border stuff and they can agree that we have a country, that party will win 90% of the vote and rule for a century. 0.61

00:03:48.000 That's the compromise.

00:03:49.000 That's the populist compromise.

00:03:52.000 Okay.

00:03:52.000 And I think you were, you know, you articulated that pretty well.

00:03:55.000 I would say Epstein already has a coalition.

00:03:57.000 Everyone voted to release the files except Clay Higgins, who is a punchline, deservedly so.

00:04:01.000 Like, that's the first time everyone knew Clay Higgins. 0.67

00:04:03.000 Like, he really must love pedophiles. 0.97

00:04:05.000 I wish I loved anything as much as he loves defending sex islands. 0.54

00:04:10.000 I would like to hear your prescription for how that works, because I would say this: if the only compromise was the left on immigration, and if I believe that there was any semblance of a reality in which they compromise on immigration and compromising on free markets to varying degree, okay.

00:04:26.000 But what do we do with a Rokana on the Second Amendment, on the First Amendment, on transing the kids, on reparations that someone like a Rokana or any member of the Democratic Party, but Rokana specifically says is a priority economically and morally on abortion.

00:04:44.000 What do you do with all of the other compromises that aren't listed?

00:04:47.000 How does that coalition work?

00:04:50.000 And bring me through the end point.

00:04:53.000 Well, and I'm not a huge fan of either of them, actually.

00:04:55.000 You could also say Thomas Massey on H-1Bs.

00:04:58.000 You could say Thomas Massey on immigration, also.

00:05:00.000 You could say him on Israel, also, as far as his biggest donor.

00:05:03.000 It's not APAC, but a lot of influence.

00:05:04.000 Certainly.

00:05:05.000 Certainly.

00:05:06.000 But what I'm referring to is maybe more something like Trump 2016, who is basically a populist.

00:05:13.000 And you look at Trump in 2016, and to me, that's kind of the prescription where it's like in 2016, he comes out and he says, we're going to get the money out of politics.

00:05:24.000 He says, I'm not going to take donor money.

00:05:26.000 I'm not going to take super PAC money.

00:05:27.000 I don't listen to special interests.

00:05:28.000 He says, law and order, close the border.

00:05:31.000 As far as health care, he didn't even give a plan.

00:05:33.000 He said, we'll just take care of everybody.

00:05:35.000 He said, we'll get rid of the lines around the states and we'll just take care of everybody.

00:05:38.000 Who even knows what that means?

00:05:39.000 And he says, we're going to put America first in foreign policy.

00:05:42.000 Now, I think that here's the thing.

00:05:45.000 I'm under no illusions.

00:05:47.000 We're not going to win 80% of the left or 40% or even 30%.

00:05:52.000 But I'm thinking that if we can win, because I think there are a lot of people on the far left or even some of the abundance liberals, they're getting tired of a lot of the far left too.

00:06:02.000 There's a lot of these liberals in the center that are saying, how are you going to have public transportation when you have people getting stabbed in the neck and there's no police?

00:06:09.000 Like we can't defund the police and even have these cities that we want to have.

00:06:13.000 I think there's a lot of people on the far left too that are saying, you know, maybe the woke has gone too far.

00:06:17.000 I'm sure was that a quote?

00:06:19.000 Did Rokana say that?

00:06:20.000 Or was that just a general question?

00:06:21.000 No, I'm not.

00:06:21.000 I'm not, I'm not talking specifically about Rokana.

00:06:24.000 That's just an example. 0.99

00:06:25.000 Because I could, when I hear it, I almost thought you said, like, I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds like something a liberal would say, like, stab the cop in the neck. 0.99

00:06:33.000 No, no, when people are being stabbed in the neck by like black people, for example. 1.00

00:06:37.000 Oh, that's also something I could hear a leftist supporting. 0.98

00:06:39.000 But yes, okay, go on.

00:06:40.000 I just didn't know if it was specific.

00:06:42.000 Okay.

00:06:42.000 Yeah.

00:06:43.000 Well, and here's the thing.

00:06:44.000 I mean, fundamentally, it comes down to the fact that let's just talk about it in general.

00:06:50.000 So that's my prescription is like populist Trump.

00:06:52.000 And let's just get a small percentage of the left liberals, you know, who I think have come a long way in the past five years since COVID.

00:07:00.000 But I would say that in general, I think maybe where we disagree is I look at this Republican team.

00:07:05.000 What has it actually done for us?

00:07:07.000 Because you seem to be defending, like, well, we're supposed to vote Republican and we're supposed to say, well, this is better than the alternative.

00:07:13.000 And he's making these wins.

00:07:14.000 Well, hang on.

00:07:15.000 And I look at it and say, it's been 10 years of Trumpism.

00:07:20.000 And, you know, I know Biden brought them in, but we're 10 million illegals up since Biden and there's no mass deportations.

00:07:26.000 I look at the wars.

00:07:28.000 We're getting into more wars, not fewer.

00:07:30.000 He wanted to keep us in Afghanistan and Bagram.

00:07:33.000 He's building bases in Syria.

00:07:34.000 We're getting into Venezuela.

00:07:36.000 You know, I look at what we have not done in 10 years and I say, you know, this is a prescription where it hasn't been working.

00:07:43.000 And so I'm very against this line where you say, well, we're going to vote Republican and we're going to, what exactly?

00:07:51.000 I mean, what's your prescription?

00:07:52.000 If Trump is failing us miserably, what are we supposed to do here?

00:07:56.000 Yeah.

00:07:56.000 Well, here's the thing is I don't agree that he's that our representatives are all failing us miserably.

00:08:02.000 I think they failed in quite a few ways.

00:08:03.000 If you're talking about like the Johnsons of the world and the rhinos, absolutely. 0.99

00:08:06.000 But the things that you just listed, and I would, again, ask you for your prescription because I give mine Monday through Friday.

00:08:12.000 I mean, every day, 11 a.m. Eastern.

00:08:14.000 I've done one on voting, what we need to do.

00:08:16.000 I've done one on immigration, done one on big tech and section 230.

00:08:21.000 I'm very curious as to your prescriptions so that people can contrast them.

00:08:25.000 You mentioned law and order.

00:08:28.000 I don't know of any president who sent the National Guard in as aggressively when we're talking about D.C. and Chicago.

00:08:33.000 That way you talk about law and order.

00:08:36.000 Well, I'm saying any effort being made.

00:08:39.000 I know what we've lived through as far as what Rokana would support Black Lives Matter, the Police and Justice Act.

00:08:44.000 Again, I don't think in 2020.

00:08:48.000 So let me ask you, what's your prescription?

00:08:49.000 Why hopscotch all the people who I think watching right now would agree with you if they think that you're on board with them on LGBTQ, on immigration, on Second Amendment rights, on First Amendment rights?

00:09:02.000 Why hopscotch then to compromise with someone who has actively fought to destroy all those things like a Rokana? 1.00

00:09:08.000 Wouldn't it make more sense to form a coalition with more than half the country who already exists?

00:09:14.000 Because you don't want to take them for granted.

00:09:15.000 Take Trump out of it.

00:09:16.000 I'm talking about the people, the voters.

00:09:18.000 What's your prescription?

00:09:20.000 I would say that it's a structural problem, which is that the reason, first of all, I mean, we have to deal with the fact that Trump is not delivering.

00:09:28.000 Like, if you don't want a Gish Gallup, let's just start there. 0.97

00:09:31.000 You say, well, I don't think it's a complete failure.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, it is.

00:09:34.000 And you bring up BLM.

00:09:35.000 BLM happened in 2020 because Trump let it happen because Sean Hannity was calling him every day and saying, this is better for us in November if BLM burns down the cities. 0.89

00:09:44.000 So the Summer of Love happened in 2020 when Trump was president.

00:09:48.000 And then Trump comes back.

00:09:49.000 It started under Barack Obama with going back to Trayvon Martin.

00:09:52.000 The George Floyd, the George Floyd Summer of Love.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, it was a continuation.

00:09:57.000 Well, I think they kind of picked up on it.

00:10:00.000 Don't you think?

00:10:01.000 It wasn't like that.

00:10:02.000 I was there and I had people on my show back then with hands up, don't shoot.

00:10:06.000 And I remember the assassination of the Dallas PD.

00:10:08.000 Donald Trump was elected specifically his first term because of how disruptive Black Lives Matter was and law and order. 1.00

00:10:14.000 And I would say there was significantly more than under Barack Obama.

00:10:17.000 But if you say they're the same, that's just where we disagree.

00:10:19.000 Well, what are we debating about?

00:10:21.000 I mean, in the George Floyd Summer of Love, maybe I'm wrong about the calendar.

00:10:25.000 It was in 2020 when Trump was president.

00:10:28.000 And it was the worst, arguably the worst BLM violence, I think, in the 21st century. 0.68

00:10:32.000 I think that was worse, actually, than Mike Brown or Trayvon Martin.

00:10:36.000 And Trump was president, and he didn't intervene because he was told it'd be better for him.

00:10:40.000 And now in 2025, there's no National Guard.

00:10:43.000 He chickened out on that.

00:10:45.000 He chickens out on all that stuff.

00:10:47.000 He was going to send him to Chicago, gonna send him to every major city.

00:10:50.000 Never happened.

00:10:52.000 Even here, you know, they're doing the deportations in Broadview here in Illinois.

00:10:56.000 They brought in like 400 National Guard and ICE is still getting chased.

00:11:00.000 And they got boxed in by a bunch of different protesters, one with the semi-automatic rifle.

00:11:06.000 There's no law and order.

00:11:07.000 Irina Zarutska died under Trump.

00:11:09.000 The crime in New York under Trump.

00:11:11.000 The crime in Chicago under Trump.

00:11:13.000 It's a failure.

00:11:14.000 And we're 10 years in.

00:11:16.000 And so you say, what is it going to take?

00:11:19.000 Because we elected him once.

00:11:20.000 I just want to know, just because this is the point I'd like to address when you say Irina Zarutska, and obviously we've covered that.

00:11:24.000 And I think we're in agreement when you look at the judge and you look at the man who was released, I believe, 14 times, right, under the guise of equity, Black Lives Matter, precisely the kinds of policies that only exist because they have been supported by the radical left who run the entire Democrat Party, right?

00:11:39.000 So yeah, some of that happened under Trump's watch, and I agree. 0.81

00:11:41.000 It's definitely far from perfect.

00:11:43.000 And I think he's failed in a lot of ways.

00:11:45.000 But who has been orchestrating?

00:11:47.000 You talk about these constructionists, right?

00:11:50.000 They want that.

00:11:50.000 And people like Rokana, people who you talk about in your coalition, it's their raison d'étre.

00:11:56.000 So why hopscotch the voters who would not vote for that coalition precisely for the reasons we're discussing?

00:12:03.000 Because they're against all of it, because Trump hasn't done enough to fight.

00:12:06.000 I mean, COVID happened under Trump too.

00:12:08.000 Huge mistakes.

00:12:09.000 Fauci, awful.

00:12:10.000 But I certainly think that 20 million illegal aliens in four years is worse than a reduction of 90-something percent.

00:12:18.000 I certainly think that the people who orchestrated Black Lives Matter and the people who ran those cities and the people who have blocked ICE from doing anything is worse than the guy sending in ICE with any effort at all. 0.82

00:12:31.000 But let's talk about even that.

00:12:33.000 Why do we get all these people from Venezuela? 1.00

00:12:36.000 Because Trump hired John Bolton to destroy Venezuela's economy and then on his last day in office gave Venezuela temporary protected status.

00:12:45.000 That was one of his last acts as president.

00:12:47.000 And that means they can't be deported.

00:12:49.000 And then you got 6 million Venezuelans in an exodus and how many of them ended up here.

00:12:53.000 And by the way, Trump ran in 2016 saying, we're going to build the wall and we're going to solve immigration.

00:13:00.000 It didn't happen.

00:13:01.000 There's no wall.

00:13:02.000 He didn't solve it.

00:13:03.000 What he did was executive orders, which Biden immediately overturned when he took power and then brought in 10 million.

00:13:09.000 Okay, so Trump gets elected again.

00:13:11.000 What does Trump do?

00:13:13.000 You're right.

00:13:13.000 He did secure the border.

00:13:14.000 That's true.

00:13:15.000 But we're 10 million deep.

00:13:17.000 That's a little too late.

00:13:18.000 He promised mass deportations.

00:13:20.000 We've had maybe 300,000 deportations this year.

00:13:23.000 Is that going to go up during the midterm elections?

00:13:26.000 Is that going to go up when everybody's running in the primary in 27?

00:13:29.000 I don't see it happening.

00:13:31.000 And either way, it hasn't happened.

00:13:32.000 So this is my frustration where I'm like, I was with you in the first term.

00:13:39.000 Because in the first term, when I was in college, I was like, yeah, like vote for Trump never coming down.

00:13:46.000 If he falls short, we'll go on Twitter and tell him to try better.

00:13:49.000 But 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, you know, Republicans have called for our vote all these times and things are not getting better like at all.

00:13:57.000 And that's sort of the frustration where I start to say, let's turn the table around.

00:14:02.000 And I'm not hopscotching over the voters.

00:14:04.000 I want all the right-wing voters.

00:14:06.000 What I want to hopscotch is the donors.

00:14:08.000 I want to hopscotch the party, which is the RNC, which is, you know, Little Tech, Silicon Valley, which is the Israel lobby, which is Wall Street, because they're driving the stuff.

00:14:19.000 Like the reason that Trump is not really what he delivers, you know, or what he promises is because, you know, if you were to deport all these illegal aliens, it's going to be bad for big agriculture, Wall Street.

00:14:32.000 Inflation might tick up.

00:14:33.000 And so Marjorie Taylor Green's construction company.

00:14:37.000 That's right.

00:14:38.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:14:39.000 And that's why I want to bypass.

00:14:40.000 Okay, so bypass.

00:14:42.000 And nobody is saying that President Trump is perfect.

00:14:44.000 And I'm not a micropolitical guy, a cultural guy, largely.

00:14:46.000 And I think there's been a major shift culturally.

00:14:49.000 I mean, half of all gay characters are going to be going away.

00:14:51.000 And Glad is lamenting that.

00:14:53.000 I don't know how much more happy I can get.

00:14:56.000 I think that the re-platforming is a big thing, right?

00:14:59.000 I mean, as someone who's been also debanked, demonetized through PayPal, Shopify, all that, you know, very similar to you.

00:15:06.000 The fact that you're able to sit here now and have this conversation, I mean, it took a lot of work from coalition people like me, you know, turning down a $50 million contract and migrating the world's biggest conservative, right-leaning nationalist YouTube channel over to Rumble so that you're able to do that.

00:15:22.000 That's a win, right?

00:15:23.000 And you could look at that like a light switch, de-platformed, including the president himself, re-platformed.

00:15:31.000 To me, that's probably the biggest thing.

00:15:33.000 The fact that you are able to sit here and talk when you weren't.

00:15:37.000 But I got re-platformed under Biden.

00:15:39.000 I got my Twitter account back in May 24.

00:15:41.000 Musk bought Twitter in 2022.

00:15:44.000 And Rumble really started to grow after Trump got banned in 21.

00:15:48.000 That's when all the little tech money jumped in because they said we're going to do True Social, Trump Media Group, Rumble, these things.

00:15:54.000 So, you know, now that Trump is back in office, there might be more censorship.

00:15:59.000 Like, you have people who are going to be able to do that.

00:16:01.000 But Elon Musk put you back specifically.

00:16:03.000 He bought that to balance the powers that be.

00:16:05.000 I mean, there was a point in time in this census.

00:16:08.000 But that's the reason for it, right?

00:16:09.000 There's no world in which you're re-platformed unless Donald Trump is running again and someone like Elon Musk sees an already existing populist movement.

00:16:17.000 That is important.

00:16:18.000 And right now, this will actually be clips on YouTube.

00:16:21.000 That could never have happened.

00:16:22.000 I mean, I was literally deplatformed for having Kerry Lake on in a midterm.

00:16:26.000 That's why we couldn't stream the elections.

00:16:28.000 So to say that, well, that's because of Biden, are you giving Biden credit for Elon Musk buying X and bringing you back?

00:16:33.000 Because I think that you got to give some credit here if you want to build a coalition.

00:16:38.000 Can you build a coalition with the people going, hey, we are really anti-censorship and we're really hesitant to get back in bed with the party that pushed for all of it?

00:16:46.000 Because there are other people not as popular as you who've also been deplatformed and re-platformed as a result.

00:16:52.000 No, I'm not giving Biden credit.

00:16:54.000 All I'm saying is you attribute that to Trump or for Republicans being in power.

00:16:59.000 All I'm saying is one's got nothing to do with the other.

00:17:02.000 And actually, it was a response.

00:17:04.000 Musk buying Twitter was a reaction to the overreach of the Democrats because they banned the president from Twitter.

00:17:12.000 And I would add to that also: you know, you know, censorship is a big problem.

00:17:18.000 I don't think we're in the clear with Rumble or Twitter.

00:17:21.000 There's going to be a lot of regulatory.

00:17:23.000 Yeah.

00:17:23.000 And what is Trump doing to solidify this free speech beachhead that you have built, that Elon has built?

00:17:32.000 Nothing.

00:17:32.000 Was that in the big beautiful bill?

00:17:34.000 Is the FCC getting on top of that?

00:17:36.000 You know, they flirted with doing that in 2020 when they said they were going to do section, what is it, 270 or 280 or whatever.

00:17:44.000 They talked about doing that.

00:17:46.000 They never did it.

00:17:47.000 And so that's my problem where, and I'm with you.

00:17:49.000 Like, no, can I just pause that?

00:17:51.000 Because that's kind of in my realm of expertise because this is something where I've been here this entire time.

00:17:56.000 Totally.

00:17:57.000 And not to take credit, but certainly a pioneer in being demonetized and hiring.

00:18:03.000 My biggest expense, especially coming up, has been legal outside of payroll because I saw this type of censorship coming.

00:18:10.000 I'm the only one who was named in the Facebook files by name.

00:18:13.000 It's how I met my lawyer, the Twitter files, and Susan Wojitsky and Congress women.

00:18:18.000 I don't know if there were any men.

00:18:19.000 I know there were a few women. 1.00

00:18:20.000 Think Pelosi and what's her name?

00:18:21.000 The Hirono, the lady from Hawaii who always talks about sex, asking for me to be that's how she opens every single hearing. 1.00

00:18:30.000 It's like, how horny are you, lady? 1.00

00:18:33.000 So that is something that I've lived through.

00:18:35.000 And I think you're maybe discounting how bad it can get.

00:18:39.000 And 230 is important, right?

00:18:41.000 I've issued a prescription on how to fix that.

00:18:44.000 And yeah, I'm disappointed that there hasn't been something fully solidified.

00:18:48.000 But I would say there's a reason you're back.

00:18:51.000 There's a reason that people are not afraid to speak out.

00:18:54.000 And people like Trump, people who are more populist, the populists who exist in the right, they listen to their base.

00:19:01.000 And I think it's good that you're pushing him.

00:19:03.000 But what would be enough?

00:19:05.000 In other words, would there be a threshold enough so that you don't just sort of elope with the Rokanas and the Bernie bros of the world?

00:19:13.000 It's not about eloping.

00:19:14.000 And I would say, what does enough look like?

00:19:17.000 I would know it when I saw it.

00:19:18.000 It would be not like bombing Iran is like a punchline for what Israel wants.

00:19:22.000 That's pretty bad.

00:19:24.000 I would say that not mass deporting people, you don't need to deport 10 million in one year, but a million per year.

00:19:30.000 And how about anything and literally anything on free speech?

00:19:34.000 You know, Ron DeSantis had some legislation and Texas had some legislation about free speech.

00:19:40.000 Could we get something like that, regulatory or legislative?

00:19:44.000 You know, I just look across the board and, and here's, and maybe this addresses the heart of the matter.

00:19:49.000 I sort of look at Trump and I say, I see what you have done for them.

00:19:54.000 Can you bless us in the same way?

00:19:57.000 Because they will move heaven and earth to lower the corporate tax rate.

00:20:00.000 They will move heaven and earth to give a trillion dollars for AI.

00:20:04.000 And they will give Saudi Arabia a non-non-NATO major defense ally.

00:20:09.000 They'll give Qatar a security guarantee.

00:20:10.000 They'll bomb Iran for Israel. 1.00

00:20:12.000 They'll bomb Yemen for Israel. 1.00

00:20:14.000 What will you do for us?

00:20:15.000 A middle-class tax cut?

00:20:17.000 Will you give us law and order, National Guard, mass deportation?

00:20:21.000 Like, how about pick one?

00:20:22.000 Something.

00:20:23.000 So, you know, maybe we just differ an approach because I think you share these frustrations, but you're saying, let's work with them.

00:20:29.000 Let's not burn it all down.

00:20:30.000 And you look at me as someone that's saying, let's throw the baby out with the bathwater.

00:20:34.000 And I get where you're coming from, but is that a wrong assessment?

00:20:39.000 And first off, I do want to correct because it does matter.

00:20:41.000 2 million are gone.

00:20:42.000 A lot of people self-deported, which to me is like a magic trick.

00:20:44.000 Yep, 2 million are gone.

00:20:46.000 That's fair.

00:20:47.000 And a 94%.

00:20:48.000 Okay, well, I'll make sure the references are available.

00:20:50.000 And if people disagree, they can check that out.

00:20:51.000 But there's a lot of self-deportation going on.

00:20:54.000 Also, a 93% to 99% reduction.

00:20:57.000 So if 1 million, 2 million are gone, I would argue the number is 2 million, and you reduce it.

00:21:01.000 I don't think that's marginal.

00:21:03.000 And I think that's probably the biggest issue if you want to preserve a country.

00:21:07.000 Is it enough?

00:21:08.000 Is it ideal?

00:21:09.000 No, but it's better than another 15 million.

00:21:12.000 And the people who brought in 15 million are the people you are suggesting to be part of a coalition after it's burned down.

00:21:19.000 So what's the prescription?

00:21:21.000 What does it look like when you say throw the baby out with the bathwater?

00:21:24.000 What does it look like?

00:21:25.000 You get Trump out, you get four years of Kamala, right?

00:21:27.000 If you had your way, four more years of Newsom.

00:21:31.000 What does it look like?

00:21:32.000 I'm asking you for the prescription.

00:21:33.000 Because I'll tell you, mine is primaries.

00:21:35.000 Mine is having people who listen to their base.

00:21:37.000 Mine is making sure that we can make incremental change.

00:21:40.000 The biggest disappointments would be H-1Bs for sure, the big 600,000 Chinese students, huge disappointment. 0.99

00:21:46.000 Section 230, right?

00:21:47.000 I have prescription for all of those.

00:21:49.000 What is yours?

00:21:50.000 What does that look like?

00:21:51.000 Revolution or coalition and then burn it down for the baby out with the bathwater. 0.75

00:21:56.000 The alternative is that's where I think I'm missing you.

00:22:02.000 Here's my prescription.

00:22:03.000 I just think that we need the young people to climb the ladder.

00:22:08.000 I want to march through the institutions, get them in the college Republicans, to the campaigns, to the congressional offices, the think tanks.

00:22:17.000 I think that we need to engage in primaries.

00:22:19.000 In 2026, I'm going to be very active and we're going to tell everybody who's America first and who isn't and who to vote for.

00:22:26.000 And I think the people that are not America first, I think they should lose their elections.

00:22:30.000 In 2028, yeah, okay.

00:22:32.000 So then, you know, we agree on that.

00:22:34.000 In 28, I think we should back a presidential candidate who is going to basically emulate what Trump did in 2016, which is anti-corruption, America first, close the borders.

00:22:45.000 And if that person can make inroads with the left, I think that's an interesting idea.

00:22:51.000 Because maybe what you're, maybe the area of disagreement is there are a lot of people in our right-wing coalition who are kind of part of the problem, I would say.

00:23:03.000 There are, like, for example, when Trump bombed Iran, you had like 70% of Republicans supporting that. 0.98

00:23:09.000 That's a load of crap. 0.98

00:23:10.000 And you have a lot of Republicans. 1.00

00:23:12.000 I'm okay with that.

00:23:13.000 I know you are.

00:23:13.000 And I've heard your argument.

00:23:15.000 We could have that one out.

00:23:16.000 But like, I think that's a huge problem.

00:23:18.000 And I think that there's a lot of people that, you know, they're going to vote for Trump literally no matter what.

00:23:23.000 And what that does is it creates moral hazard because then Republicans know that they can come in.

00:23:29.000 They can screw us forever.

00:23:31.000 And I guess the question is for me, my prescription is like, I want results now.

00:23:37.000 If you don't give them to us, we don't care.

00:23:40.000 We will burn it down.

00:23:41.000 And I'm being the unreasonable person in the room.

00:23:44.000 I feel like you, because you're being reasonable, you are allowing the establishment to get away with everything.

00:23:50.000 And they'll always be stringing you along, telling you, oh, well, you know, it's better than the alternative.

00:23:55.000 Well, in the next two years, we're going to get it.

00:23:57.000 2 million, that's fake.

00:23:58.000 That's from the community survey.

00:24:00.000 They polled 65,000 people.

00:24:02.000 You know, there's a response bias.

00:24:04.000 It's not happening.

00:24:05.000 And you say, well, it's better than nothing.

00:24:07.000 It almost isn't because what happens?

00:24:09.000 We get a Democrat in four years.

00:24:10.000 Hold on a second.

00:24:11.000 I'm not saying it's better than nothing.

00:24:12.000 I'm not saying it's better than nothing.

00:24:14.000 I'm saying that it's better than what you suggested was a superior alternative, Kamala Harris.

00:24:20.000 That's the standard that we do need to use here because you said Kamala Harris would be a better choice. 0.98

00:24:25.000 I'm not saying it's better than nothing, good enough.

00:24:27.000 I mean, you're talking to Dan Crenshaw.

00:24:28.000 We'll never be back on this show because I called him to task on the TAPS Act.

00:24:31.000 They're like, well, how is this not red flag laws?

00:24:33.000 No, there's no one who likes those in positions of authority who betray their base.

00:24:39.000 And I think that base, by the way, is a pretty big coalition, includes conservative.

00:24:42.000 It's bigger than ever with Donald Trump.

00:24:44.000 Donald Trump isn't really a classical conservative.

00:24:46.000 I think it's better than Kamala Harris.

00:24:47.000 And I can't think of anyone less America first than who you suggested, Ro Khanna.

00:24:53.000 That's why I bring it up.

00:24:54.000 That's why because you're getting hung up on that.

00:24:57.000 Okay, so any member of the Democrat Party.

00:24:59.000 I can't think of anyone less America first than the current Democrat Party. 0.72

00:25:02.000 Republicans are flawed.

00:25:03.000 I believe that go through it.

00:25:05.000 Warren, Kamala Harris, who you said would be a better choice. 0.72

00:25:08.000 Gavin Newsom, Whitmer.

00:25:09.000 I believe they fundamentally hate everything about America.

00:25:13.000 I can't name one thing.

00:25:15.000 I'm not talking, RoCanna, I'm not talking about him specifically.

00:25:19.000 And like I said, I'm not even talking about Thomas Massey.

00:25:22.000 I'm using them as an example, as a model.

00:25:25.000 Well, as a model, as sort of a proof of concept, because you have a Republican and a Democrat who, by the way, I don't even agree with them on most things.

00:25:34.000 Like I criticize Thomas Massey a lot, but it's an example of bipartisanship on a populist issue, an anti-elite issue that everybody supports.

00:25:44.000 And who is against it?

00:25:46.000 The Republican establishment.

00:25:47.000 Trump, Johnson.

00:25:49.000 And I'm saying that's an example of cooperation where the right can maybe lean into these issues that, you know, maybe they're nonpartisan issues and rally everybody against the establishment and our own party.

00:26:01.000 And it's just, to me, that's always the disconnect: you want to talk about Kamala Harris and Ro Khanna.

00:26:07.000 And I'm saying, let's imagine a different situation.

00:26:10.000 No, no, no.

00:26:10.000 I don't want to talk about them.

00:26:12.000 You brought them up and repeatedly so.

00:26:15.000 You brought them up.

00:26:16.000 Well, I brought up you.

00:26:18.000 Come on, let's be fair.

00:26:20.000 I disagree with you.

00:26:21.000 I understand your approach, though, too.

00:26:23.000 I understand your approach because I feel that way, like I said, about the conservative guard in media.

00:26:29.000 In other words, we'd be pretty much on the same page.

00:26:32.000 Anyone in conservative media, and we've seen it where they are gatekeepers, but there's a mechanism to fix that.

00:26:38.000 And we've seen that change.

00:26:39.000 And Rumble is a big part of that.

00:26:40.000 And I agree with you.

00:26:41.000 And more needs to be done about Section 230.

00:26:43.000 But I brought them up because you use those examples.

00:26:46.000 And as someone who believes that they fundamentally disdain America, Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:26:50.000 To be fair, she's really dumb. 0.99

00:26:53.000 So she may not actually know what she believes or thinks. 1.00

00:26:56.000 But I do believe that Whitmer hates America.

00:26:59.000 I do believe that a socialist like Bernie does.

00:27:01.000 And I know people say he's a populist, but I don't go along with that.

00:27:04.000 But I, okay, I understand your point.

00:27:06.000 Let's just chuck that up to a disagreement.

00:27:08.000 There are some other areas if we want to go through where we probably agree, probably disagree, because I think you presented it pretty well.

00:27:16.000 I just think we disagree on that, if that's okay.

00:27:18.000 Yeah, sure.

00:27:19.000 So some of the positions that you've presented for me, where I think we might disagree, but you could clarify, have given me pause.

00:27:26.000 Second Amendment, that's a big one to me, a fundamental one, because I come from a country, I would also say socialized healthcare, because I put several family members six feet under who would have lived in the United States being raised in Quebec.

00:27:38.000 It's awful.

00:27:39.000 But the Second Amendment, considering the amount of threats, and we've talked about this, everyone has since Charlie Kirk, right?

00:27:46.000 People just see the one that got through.

00:27:48.000 I would imagine that you live under perpetual threat and need extra forms of security.

00:27:54.000 I probably have that right.

00:27:56.000 Yes.

00:27:56.000 Yeah.

00:27:57.000 And so for me, Second Amendment is pivotal.

00:28:01.000 And I do see some rhetoric, not just from you, but from some people who are sort of dismissive that is disconcerting.

00:28:07.000 I'd like to roll a clip on this and then give you the floor to clarify because we probably actually agree more than we disagree.

00:28:14.000 Sure.

00:28:15.000 There's this question of our government has no efficacy and it's not responsive to the needs or the wants of the people.

00:28:22.000 So it's not really a democracy and it also isn't working.

00:28:26.000 So what do you do in that situation?

00:28:28.000 Well, people start to say, and this is, you know, as you know, this is the natural evolution of things.

00:28:34.000 The people cry out for a tyrant.

00:28:36.000 The people cry out for a dictator.

00:28:39.000 Give us change.

00:28:40.000 Give us reform.

00:28:41.000 And I certainly feel that.

00:28:43.000 I think that's compelling.

00:28:45.000 I'm a little skeptical of it as time goes on because as I get older and more mature, I think we maybe take for granted the institutions that we've built up.

00:28:54.000 And maybe I've become ironically more conservative in my disposition and saying, maybe let's not race ahead of ourselves and get rid of things which have been around for hundreds of years.

00:29:04.000 I would argue the constitutional system is already impaired because it's being abused by all the other organs of government.

00:29:10.000 You know, even the Supreme Court voted eight to one that said these injunctions are out of control.

00:29:15.000 And you've got these like procedural things in the Senate to filibuster. 0.92

00:29:19.000 The president can't fire as many people as he'd like to fire without all this oversight.

00:29:24.000 It's like, you know, we do need an executive organ of government.

00:29:27.000 So I would say that we should start with a more powerful president.

00:29:32.000 And I would not be opposed to, you know, something like a king that sits over the presidency.

00:29:38.000 I think that maybe they didn't get it wrong, but I think maybe we've outgrown a lot of those considerations.

00:29:45.000 I'll even go as far as to say something like the Second Amendment.

00:29:49.000 I mean, you know, and maybe I get criticized for this, but I'm just free thinking here.

00:29:54.000 Ideally, you would want a society that is so orderly.

00:29:57.000 Do you really want people running around with guns all the time?

00:30:00.000 I mean, I know the argument about, and I am pro Second Amendment, I have guns, but you know, something like that.

00:30:06.000 It's like that, that is a clear instance where the left kind of makes a point about how we've outgrown some of the things that are in there. 0.91

00:30:13.000 I'm going to get a lot of shit for saying that, but I just think that's true. 0.81

00:30:16.000 And like a modern city, you know, should everybody be packing heat like that? 0.98

00:30:21.000 I mean, ideally, you'd have so much public order, it wouldn't be necessary.

00:30:25.000 Okay.

00:30:25.000 So, first, let me just be really clear on my position.

00:30:28.000 I do like a place where people are running around with guns all the time because I've been a place where they haven't Canada and it's a nation of pussies. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Also, I will tell you this: on this topic, I have seen your video where the police, I don't think arrest, police showed up at your house. 0.96

00:30:43.000 One of my producers here, who's a lawyer, said people should watch that as textbook on how to deal with police.

00:30:50.000 And he's not Jewish. 0.90

00:30:51.000 He's Greek, one of the very rare Greek lawyers.

00:30:54.000 He's not very good.

00:30:55.000 I like him.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, he's not very good.

00:30:57.000 So I wouldn't hire him in a divorce.

00:30:59.000 She'll get everything.

00:31:01.000 But I do want to give you, in other words, I want to let people know that this is not a position taken from someone who has not been under threat.

00:31:10.000 But I will say this: what I heard there and in watching you, concerning to me, because what I see communicated is in your ideal utopia, to use a word, would involve a much stronger state with much more executive power.

00:31:26.000 And I agree on the executive authority, but the endgame, a much stronger state and much softer civilian arms, softer Second Amendment rights.

00:31:36.000 And it sounds a lot to me like the left saying, well, it was for muskets and we can just revise it.

00:31:44.000 Explain if that's a mischaracterization.

00:31:48.000 How do we know when we decide and how do we decide?

00:31:50.000 We probably don't want people running around with guns anymore. 0.99

00:31:53.000 Well, I'm not in favor of gun control in America.

00:31:58.000 I just don't even think that's practical.

00:32:00.000 It's what, 400, 500 million guns or something.

00:32:03.000 I don't think it's possible to control guns here.

00:32:05.000 It's kind of gotten away.

00:32:07.000 But I will just say it really comes from a feeling.

00:32:10.000 I don't really have a fleshed out, like hot take on it.

00:32:13.000 But I do think about a modern city like New York or DC or LA and think, where do we draw the line?

00:32:21.000 You know, I know in Texas, for example, you have open carry.

00:32:24.000 And I've done it.

00:32:25.000 I was down in Texas with John Doyle actually years ago before we became enemies.

00:32:29.000 And we were walking around with guns in our back pocket in the gas station.

00:32:33.000 And I'm thinking, I actually don't know that I want to live in a city where people are literally walking around with guns hanging out of their pants.

00:32:40.000 I guess I already do live in one.

00:32:42.000 I live in Chicago.

00:32:43.000 They don't do a legal living.

00:32:44.000 I'm going to say that might just be a Chicago thing because everyone in this studio is trapped right now.

00:32:48.000 And I love it.

00:32:49.000 Like you're almost making me erect in your description.

00:32:54.000 I caught myself.

00:32:54.000 I'm like, oh, wait, that sounds like the South side.

00:32:56.000 It sounds like Inglewood, actually.

00:32:58.000 But, you know, so I guess I'm in favor of like concealed carry.

00:33:02.000 We should be able to own guns.

00:33:04.000 I just, maybe it's a cultural thing because I did grow up in the Midwest.

00:33:08.000 And my parents actually trained people in how to use firearms, but we're not like a gun nut family.

00:33:15.000 Forgive me if that's a pejorative statement, but we're not enthusiasts.

00:33:19.000 And so there's something to me about it that I just feel like at a certain point it becomes less safe more than more safe.

00:33:27.000 So, but like I said, I don't really have a fleshed out take.

00:33:30.000 I'm ideologically in favor of the Second Amendment.

00:33:32.000 I do support it.

00:33:33.000 I don't have any prescriptive gun control measures.

00:33:36.000 I just think there's a limit to it.

00:33:38.000 And I get a little uncomfortable by some of it sometimes.

00:33:41.000 Okay.

00:33:41.000 Well, I think that's a fair answer if it's just sort of a feeling thing.

00:33:44.000 I think that in combination, hopefully you can understand where it's prescriptive as far as a stronger state or theocracy or I feel like I know I've heard you use the word dictatorship.

00:33:56.000 It could be again tongue-in-cheek with softer Second Amendment rights. 0.68

00:34:01.000 That's a huge concern to me.

00:34:04.000 But I think that's a fair answer if you don't actually have a prescription for it.

00:34:08.000 All right.

00:34:08.000 Just I would ask that you not create any kind of a coalition with someone who would take any guns away because I have them hanging out of my pockets all the time.

00:34:17.000 As a matter of fact, I've created new pockets for my guns.

00:34:21.000 I keep forgetting you're Canadian. 0.99

00:34:23.000 That seems like a big hang, maybe because you come from a country without it.

00:34:27.000 But I don't know.

00:34:28.000 I am American. 0.99

00:34:28.000 I was raised in the land of pussies. 0.99

00:34:30.000 So I was born in Detroit and was raised in the land of the spineless. 0.99

00:34:36.000 Trans, trans-American, huh? 0.78

00:34:38.000 You identify as American, huh? 0.98

00:34:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:41.000 Well, I've actually tried to publicly reject, denounce my Canadian citizenship many times, and I don't know how to, I've just said it on air.

00:34:47.000 Like I denounce it.

00:34:48.000 I'm so ashamed of that.

00:34:50.000 And my mom, who was French Canadian, I mean, gosh, many decades ago, is embarrassed by it.

00:34:55.000 So I'm not Canadian.

00:34:56.000 I'm never running for office.

00:34:57.000 I just don't want people to actually think I'm Canadian because that would be awful.

00:35:02.000 Okay, sure, sure thing.

00:35:04.000 Well, I mean, me, as far as just one last thing.

00:35:07.000 We agree. 1.00

00:35:07.000 Look, Canadians are awful. 1.00

00:35:09.000 We have to agree. 1.00

00:35:10.000 They're the worst.

00:35:11.000 But they're your people, Steve.

00:35:13.000 They're your people. 1.00

00:35:14.000 Oh, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:35:15.000 All right. 1.00

00:35:17.000 I hate, I hate that country. 1.00

00:35:21.000 It is awful.

00:35:21.000 It's also, by the way, probably why I'm much more in favor of a two-party system because I come from where I was raised, a parliamentary system.

00:35:28.000 And when I had it explained to me, I said, so someone can become the leader of this country with like 28% of the vote.

00:35:35.000 How is this not retarded? 1.00

00:35:37.000 You know, and it doesn't work very well either.

00:35:39.000 It doesn't mean that either is perfect.

00:35:41.000 But yeah, Second Amendment is a really big thing.

00:35:43.000 But I also understand, too, because I was under that impression coming from a place where not a lot of people had guns.

00:35:50.000 But I will tell you this.

00:35:52.000 My prescription is there is no limit.

00:35:55.000 You would probably consider me an extremist on that.

00:35:57.000 And almost all mass shootings take place in gun-free zones.

00:36:02.000 The lowest number you'll find is 94%.

00:36:05.000 Increased gun laws do not at all correlate with decreased crime.

00:36:09.000 Matter of fact, quite often the opposite.

00:36:11.000 And guns save far more lives each year than they take.

00:36:14.000 So that's one of those, if you're a pragmatist, which I know you've said, guns, homicides each year.

00:36:18.000 And this is my soapbox, and I'll get off just since I know you said you're not convinced either way.

00:36:22.000 There'll be anywhere from 15 to 20 something thousand each year, homicides.

00:36:27.000 Defensive uses, low end, half a million to 3 million.

00:36:31.000 And that's a low count because so many defensive uses of firearms, like you mentioned, just someone showing it, right?

00:36:36.000 They don't need to be fired.

00:36:37.000 They save far more lives than they take.

00:36:40.000 And that's one where I say, yeah, I want an armed society because I know what it looks like where they're not.

00:36:44.000 And in Canada, Montreal, where I was raised, they pretty much invented the school shooting.

00:36:50.000 We had Eco Polytechnique Concordia. 0.99

00:36:51.000 I had friends at Dawson College where there was a guy who roamed the Maritimes with like a shotgun and shot multiple people for days and no one could do shit. 0.99

00:37:00.000 That's how bad it is. 0.95

00:37:02.000 So that's me making a pitch since you seem like you're reasonably open to it.

00:37:06.000 Well, I agree with all that.

00:37:08.000 I guess the feeling comes from, you know, there's this sense in American conservatism of like, well, they can't take the guns.

00:37:16.000 And I feel like there's a sense that guns are going to protect us from tyranny.

00:37:21.000 And I feel like they haven't.

00:37:22.000 I feel like, especially someone like myself, the government can touch you.

00:37:26.000 The government can do what they want to you.

00:37:28.000 The government took my money, put me on an o-fly list.

00:37:31.000 And if they wanted to get me, they could get me.

00:37:33.000 And so I just feel like people.

00:37:36.000 They have gotten you.

00:37:37.000 And they've gotten me too.

00:37:39.000 You know, thank God we're here.

00:37:40.000 But no, and my heart goes out to you.

00:37:42.000 I mean, being subpoenaed by the ATF and being threatened to be investigated by the FBI along with the Nashville police, they can, but then apply that to society at large and you end up like Australia with COVID camps. 0.89

00:37:55.000 Yeah, and I'm not like, I'm not against all guns.

00:37:58.000 I just think that conservatives need to think beyond that issue because they tend to consider that the last line of defense.

00:38:04.000 I feel like if you lose everything else, the guns won't protect you either.

00:38:09.000 That's why I'm more proactive.

00:38:11.000 Like we really need to do other things.

00:38:13.000 And that's why the Second Amendment's less of a concern to me.

00:38:15.000 Yeah, and I understand that.

00:38:16.000 I would just say if you're not pretty steadfast on that, you will lose everything else.

00:38:20.000 Historically, there's no exception.

00:38:22.000 And that's why it's so important to me.

00:38:24.000 But I think we're pretty close on that.

00:38:26.000 And maybe if every year around week, I can take you shooting.

00:38:28.000 What about this guy? 0.96

00:38:29.000 What about I have a little gun right here?

00:38:31.000 I had to take it out because when I sit down, it digs into my gut fat and leaves a gun imprint.

00:38:35.000 That's a cute little gun, right?

00:38:36.000 That doesn't intimidate you.

00:38:37.000 Look at this tiny little thing.

00:38:39.000 That's a good gun.

00:38:40.000 It's a little Celtic. 0.99

00:38:42.000 It's, you know, if you come down, we can shoot it sometime. 0.56

00:38:44.000 And they won't even know about it in Chicago.

00:38:46.000 Don't carry it illegally.

00:38:48.000 Okay, so that's a big issue for me.

00:38:50.000 I would say the biggest issue since you can go back when I was a teenager as well.

00:38:53.000 We share that in common.

00:38:54.000 Second Amendment, First Amendment. 0.69

00:38:56.000 Again, socialized healthcare, very important to me just because of the results.

00:39:00.000 I understand where you're coming from saying that our system is broken.

00:39:04.000 I just have seen how much more broken it can be.

00:39:07.000 Immigration, I think, is probably the biggest issue of our time, both legal and illegal.

00:39:12.000 I think we agree, maybe different methods, if that's fair, but it's a I am for you.

00:39:16.000 I don't want Texas to look like India. 1.00

00:39:18.000 We have a segment high on India where it's pretty much just human beings throwing shit. 1.00

00:39:23.000 It's a terrible, terrible place. 1.00

00:39:27.000 And I don't believe that they're smarter.

00:39:28.000 I don't believe that we should be replacing Americans.

00:39:31.000 So I think we're on board there.

00:39:32.000 But freedom of speech, big thing for me. 0.91

00:39:34.000 The fact that we're able to have this conversation and the fact that I will take so much crap for even having it.

00:39:41.000 I hope that you can appreciate it and I would do it again.

00:39:45.000 That's a big one.

00:39:46.000 Now, I want to play a clip for you that The Hill took and they edited some stuff in this clip.

00:39:51.000 I'm sure you're aware.

00:39:52.000 And then, towards the end of this, for fun, I want to go through some rapid-fire viral clips that have no context so that you can address them because these are the ones that people see of you sometimes.

00:40:00.000 Sure.

00:40:01.000 So, this is the one from The Hill that they ran regarding, I guess you would say, freedom of speech, but seems pretty severe.

00:40:07.000 And then, I would like to roll not the whole two-hour show, but a longer clip so that people can see what they cut out and then we can talk about it.

00:40:15.000 Is that fair?

00:40:16.000 Sure.

00:40:17.000 Here's the Hill clip with I think the two hosts who presented it. 0.99

00:40:20.000 I think one of them is gay or just acts like it. 1.00

00:40:23.000 There is an occult element at the high levels of society and specifically among the Jews. 0.99

00:40:32.000 So many of the people that are perpetrating the lies and the destruction on the country are evildoers. 0.98

00:40:40.000 They are people that worship false gods. 0.61

00:40:42.000 They are people that practice magic or rituals or whatever. 0.99

00:40:47.000 And more than anything, those people need to be, when we take power, they need to be given the death penalty. 0.98

00:40:54.000 Straight up. 0.98

00:40:56.000 And I'm far more concerned about that than I am about even non-white people or mass migration. 0.99

00:41:04.000 These people that are communing with demons and engaging in this sort of witchcraft and stuff, and these people that are suppressing the name Christ and suppressing Christianity, they must be absolutely annihilated when we take power. 0.98

00:41:18.000 This is God's country. 0.97

00:41:20.000 This is Jesus' country. 0.99

00:41:21.000 This is not the domain of atheists or devil worshipers or perfidious Jews. 0.99

00:41:27.000 This is Christ's country. 0.98

00:41:29.000 Now, for those watching, that is what the Hill ran, right?

00:41:34.000 And of course, people were horrified.

00:41:35.000 They did edit out a very particular portion of it, which I think is relevant.

00:41:41.000 So forgive me if you need to take a sip of water.

00:41:43.000 I want to play the longer version and let's see if people can see what was edited out and then give you the floor to explain it.

00:41:50.000 It just makes me sick to my stomach.

00:41:52.000 There is an occult element at the high levels of society and specifically among the Jews. 0.68

00:42:02.000 And, you know, whenever I see that stuff, it just makes me want to proclaim louder and more firmly and more rigidly that it is nothing other than Jesus Christ.

00:42:11.000 No, no pagan stuff, no false gods, no deities, no demons.

00:42:17.000 It is Jesus Christ.

00:42:18.000 And we need to start saying that name more.

00:42:20.000 I feel like I haven't said his name enough on the show lately, but that is what breaks the spell.

00:42:26.000 It's the name.

00:42:27.000 It's the name Jesus.

00:42:29.000 Talk about it.

00:42:30.000 Say it.

00:42:31.000 Pray to him.

00:42:34.000 Talk about the sacrifice on the cross.

00:42:36.000 That's the answer. 0.96

00:42:37.000 Because so many of the people that are perpetrating the lies and the destruction on the country, they are evildoers. 0.96

00:42:46.000 They are people that worship false gods. 0.85

00:42:48.000 They are people that practice magic or rituals or whatever. 0.99

00:42:52.000 And more than anything, those people need to be, when we take power, they need to be given the death penalty. 0.98

00:43:00.000 Straight up. 0.98

00:43:02.000 And I'm far more concerned about that than I am about even non-white people or mass migration. 0.99

00:43:10.000 These people that are communing with demons and engaging in this sort of witchcraft and stuff, and these people that are suppressing the name Christ and suppressing Christianity, they must be absolutely annihilated when we take power. 0.84

00:43:24.000 I'm not calling for political violence, but that cannot have any quarter in our society. 0.75

00:43:30.000 And we need to put up a crucifix every home, in every room, in every school, in every government office to signal Christ's reign over our country.

00:43:41.000 Not that God needs it, but it must be outwardly expressed from the interior that this is God's country.

00:43:49.000 This is Jesus' country. 0.97

00:43:50.000 This is not the domain of atheists or devil worshipers or perfidious Jews. 0.99

00:43:56.000 This is Christ's country. 0.96

00:43:59.000 So anyway, I know the guy earlier said, can you be agnostic and be America first?

00:44:04.000 I'm amending my answer.

00:44:05.000 No, you must be a Christian and you must submit to Christianity. 1.00

00:44:10.000 Okay.

00:44:11.000 So, and I know it feels tedious, but this is the game that the media plays.

00:44:16.000 I noticed they cut out the part where you said you were not calling for political violence, which I think is an indictment on the hill.

00:44:24.000 But I would also ask, you say that, but you also talk about executing people.

00:44:29.000 So if you're not advocating political violence as it relates to putting people to death, how would you do it?

00:44:38.000 Well, you know, that was a few years ago.

00:44:40.000 And I would say that I'm not really in favor of the death penalty at all anymore.

00:44:44.000 But I remember that monologue well because I saw a lot of this satanic occult stuff.

00:44:51.000 I'm talking about like Pizzagate stuff.

00:44:53.000 Like we have to acknowledge there are a lot of people in the elite that are straight up devil worshipers.

00:44:58.000 I firmly believe in this like eyes wide shut kind of thing that does happen.

00:45:03.000 I don't think it's necessarily a grand conspiracy, but no, there's spiritual warfare for sure, for sure.

00:45:08.000 Yeah.

00:45:09.000 And I think there's a lot of those types of people out there, especially in like Hollywood.

00:45:13.000 I saw it up close and personal when I was with Ye, and I just hate that stuff so much. 0.92

00:45:18.000 Wait a second.

00:45:19.000 I want to give you the answer, but what do you mean you saw it up close?

00:45:22.000 Were you at an eyes wide shut party with Ye?

00:45:24.000 No, I wasn't at a party, but being with him, you see, you know, like with Balenciaga, they did that at Balenciaga.

00:45:30.000 All right.

00:45:31.000 They had that like SNM teddy bear.

00:45:33.000 And there's things like that.

00:45:34.000 It's like a wink and a nod to basically just evil, just straight up evil.

00:45:39.000 And so, so, no, I, you know, that they always do this.

00:45:42.000 I do a show every night, as you know, and you sometimes get whipped up and you say something like that.

00:45:47.000 So I don't know that I have a policy of like when I get in charge, I'm going to give everyone the death penalty.

00:45:52.000 But suffice to say, the people that are involved in that kind of stuff, they can't be negotiated with.

00:45:58.000 It's not going to be a power sharing agreement with people that worship Moloch and Baal and the Epsteins and who is it? 0.88

00:46:06.000 The Podestas.

00:46:07.000 Like those people are going to have to be like imprisoned or something like that because that stuff just makes me sick to my stomach.

00:46:13.000 So that was the gist. 0.97

00:46:14.000 But it's not like my program is, so we're going to become president, that we're going to kill a bunch.

00:46:20.000 I'm not in favor of the death penalty even at all, really.

00:46:22.000 Okay.

00:46:22.000 So even if, let's say, you know, a perfect world coalition, you reach that point, the Nick Fuentes government, you wouldn't be executing people for not being Christian.

00:46:34.000 No, no.

00:46:35.000 And that's not what that was about.

00:46:37.000 I mean, even in that clip, I'm talking specifically about the occult, which I hate.

00:46:41.000 Okay.

00:46:42.000 But you wouldn't execute people for worshiping false gods either.

00:46:47.000 You wouldn't execute people at all.

00:46:48.000 No, no, not at all.

00:46:49.000 Okay.

00:46:50.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 Because for me, I mean, I just go, oh, well, essentially they cut out the, I'm not advocating political violence.

00:46:55.000 But then I still come back to you, I did say execute, so I do want to ask him about that.

00:46:58.000 Yeah, it's an unfortunate statement, but it's one of those things.

00:47:02.000 If I could take it back, I would.

00:47:03.000 But I just, that occult, I don't know about you, but when I see that kind of stuff, like it, it pisses me off.

00:47:09.000 When I see like Order of Nine Angles and stuff like that, I'm like in my bones, I hate it.

00:47:15.000 Yeah, well, I hate evil wherever it may be. 0.73

00:47:18.000 And I do think I do believe, this is my belief, that the progressive left is a death cult.

00:47:23.000 That's the only common denominator that I see.

00:47:26.000 If you look at the abortion policy, if you look at the mutilation of children, if you look at, yeah, even it's whenever you see an LGBTQ flag next to a country that's represented by Hamas. 0.67

00:47:36.000 Now, I'm not saying all Palestinian people.

00:47:38.000 I'm saying those two can't be reconciled, where you go, how do they have this?

00:47:42.000 How do they have these co-the only commonality is that they can't stand the United States and it's a death cult.

00:47:47.000 And I think what does bother me a little more sometimes is I see a lot of immature Christians. 1.00

00:47:53.000 And I know you've talked about this as a Catholic who obviously has much more of an understanding of your theology, or maybe sometime we can have a conversation about that.

00:48:01.000 We agree or disagree.

00:48:02.000 But I see a lot of young Christians who come in and they think that everything is like satanic, like a proactive satanic worship.

00:48:10.000 I'm going, well, hold on.

00:48:10.000 The biggest threat is making yourself God.

00:48:14.000 Like abortion is just sacrifice at the altar of self.

00:48:17.000 Are there people involved in the occult knowingly?

00:48:20.000 Yeah, but there are far more people who succumb to temptation and evil and worship the devil without knowing it.

00:48:27.000 And I think a lot of people kind of sound nuts and unreasonable because they don't understand theology sometimes.

00:48:34.000 Yeah, no, and I agree with that. 0.89

00:48:35.000 I just, to me, it's completely irredeemable when you just, it's explicit.

00:48:41.000 Because there, like you say, there are a lot of people that do it unknowingly and maybe it's guided by the best intentions.

00:48:47.000 You know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:48:50.000 It might be out of empathy or, you know, some kind of ideology.

00:48:54.000 And I agree with you, but to me, it's like that explicit occult stuff.

00:49:00.000 It's, you know, that to me is irredeemable.

00:49:03.000 I mean, it's obviously, whereas Christians, we don't believe it's actually irredeemable.

00:49:07.000 But to me, like I said in the clip, there can be no quarter for that, especially in the halls of power.

00:49:13.000 As far as the left is concerned, I mean, you're right about that, but I don't hate it as much, actually.

00:49:19.000 The left?

00:49:21.000 Yeah.

00:49:21.000 Okay.

00:49:22.000 Well, we just, I do.

00:49:23.000 The left is evil.

00:49:24.000 I agree with you, but that other stuff is just on its next level.

00:49:27.000 No, no.

00:49:28.000 Obviously, anyone who is, anyone who's like, you know, doing a bloodletting devil worship ceremony is the worst. 0.93

00:49:34.000 I'm just saying that I believe the left in general is an evil, evil movement and ideology. 0.90

00:49:39.000 And for proof, look to Canada. 1.00

00:49:41.000 It's both evil and a nation of pussies. 1.00

00:49:44.000 It's almost hard to make that happen, but somehow they pulled it off. 0.99

00:49:47.000 And I also think the coalition that you see with the left and big business, this is where you say donors, but I just mean corporatism, period, like BlackRock.

00:49:56.000 I mean, we had an investigation people can go and watch.

00:49:59.000 Funny enough, McKinsey Company was one where we got a lot of blowback.

00:50:02.000 But BlackRock then threatening Rumble if they don't remove us to take legal action.

00:50:07.000 And I don't even think it was a Jewish lawyer, which is kind of funny, just as an aside.

00:50:10.000 So I think that's why it didn't go anywhere.

00:50:12.000 It wasn't very good.

00:50:13.000 Say what we want about it.

00:50:14.000 They tend to be good as lawyers.

00:50:17.000 That is a really unholy coalition and leads to a lot of our problems with big tech and censorship.

00:50:21.000 I will say this.

00:50:22.000 I find that I agree with you on a lot.

00:50:25.000 And I know you have a lot of time.

00:50:27.000 I don't want to take up too much of your time.

00:50:28.000 I don't know if you saw Coleman Hughes just released this whole thing on you last night.

00:50:34.000 Did you see that?

00:50:35.000 I did.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:36.000 Yeah.

00:50:36.000 And it seems to me when I saw that, that they have some sites set on Rumble because they started bringing Rumble Nick, Rumble Nick.

00:50:42.000 They said it was said like 20 times.

00:50:45.000 And of course, I believe Coleman Hughes works under Barry Weiss and CBS and they spend a lot of money on YouTube, would have a vested interest in alternative platforms going away.

00:50:55.000 So that kind of raised an eyebrow and I want to look into it more.

00:50:58.000 But he did say that you, Nick, you'll give one face to the audience on Rumble and then sometimes a different face when you go on podcasts and moderate quite a bit.

00:51:09.000 Do you think you've been doing that here?

00:51:11.000 Because I know you'll, well, I could take that back, or do you think this is fair and it's consistent?

00:51:18.000 I think I'm being fair.

00:51:20.000 You know, they've been saying this about me for 10 years, where they say, you're presenting a more normie-friendly face.

00:51:26.000 I would just say I'm a three-dimensional human being.

00:51:28.000 And when you watch a show, it's a performance.

00:51:31.000 And it's me, as you know, well, maybe because you have, you got other people, but for me, it's like I'm in a room by myself.

00:51:37.000 And when I do a show, I'm just talking to myself.

00:51:40.000 And when I'm talking to myself, you know how it is.

00:51:42.000 You get whipped up and you make jokes or use hyperbole.

00:51:46.000 You're being rhetorical.

00:51:47.000 Like that tends to happen.

00:51:49.000 Then when you're in a serious conversation where they say, do you want to kill everybody?

00:51:52.000 You're like, no, no.

00:51:53.000 Like here I was joking or here I meant this.

00:51:56.000 But no, I think that's a dishonest characterization of it.

00:51:59.000 Yeah.

00:52:00.000 Let me ask you, you say, you've said one time, I think you were giving an interview.

00:52:02.000 It was funny.

00:52:03.000 You said, sometimes jokes don't land.

00:52:05.000 And you were just, you just were straightforward about it.

00:52:08.000 I know that all too well.

00:52:09.000 Believe me, a crowd full of drunks in Schenectady will let you know when you're 19.

00:52:14.000 Let me ask you, like, what in your mind when you're doing it?

00:52:17.000 Like, what's the perfect joke?

00:52:22.000 I don't know if I, for me, it's if it makes me laugh.

00:52:25.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 I mostly do my show for my own sense of humor.

00:52:28.000 Like the things that I say, it's because I think they're funny and I can't, I literally can't help, but I have to say it.

00:52:33.000 And I make myself laugh.

00:52:35.000 And so to me, the best jokes are the ones that I laugh out loud if I watch the clip.

00:52:40.000 Okay.

00:52:40.000 And do you like, do you, do you ever write a joke?

00:52:44.000 Do you ever think of a perfect structure?

00:52:46.000 This is just sort of, you mean these are sort of joking statements?

00:52:50.000 I don't write jokes.

00:52:51.000 It's all extemporaneous.

00:52:52.000 So if I think of something funny, like, you know, just like a funny scenario or a bit, I just, I have to, I have to perform and I have to act it out.

00:53:01.000 And sometimes the edgier, let's be honest, if it's edgy, it's funny.

00:53:05.000 Right.

00:53:06.000 That's in my opinion.

00:53:07.000 I mean, I've always had an edgy sense of humor.

00:53:09.000 If it's a little offensive, it's a little bit sharp.

00:53:13.000 If the audience doesn't like it, sometimes I like it more if half the audience gets really mad about it.

00:53:18.000 Yeah.

00:53:18.000 That's rage bait.

00:53:19.000 You know, so I understood.

00:53:21.000 That's actually the only reason I have people in the room because I talk to myself all the time.

00:53:24.000 So it's just so people don't think I'm crazy.

00:53:27.000 Because I don't know about you.

00:53:28.000 Most of my ideas usually come to me in the shower or driving.

00:53:31.000 And I think it's that sensory deprivation, right?

00:53:34.000 You ever drive and you go, wait, where was I for an hour?

00:53:36.000 And you have a bunch of things you have to pull over and write down.

00:53:40.000 Yeah, it's almost like if you're doing something, it like frees a different part of your mind, you know?

00:53:46.000 If you're not doing anything, if you're idle, you're a little too in your head.

00:53:50.000 So that maybe that's how it works.

00:53:52.000 Yeah.

00:53:52.000 I think Normac Donald said once, he said, the perfect joke is where the punchline is the exact same as the setup.

00:53:58.000 And he had a joke about Julia Roberts marrying Lyle Lovett and the punchline was just when they realized that Julia Roberts had married Lyle Lovett.

00:54:04.000 Like that was just the punchline.

00:54:06.000 But to me, I think in topical stuff, because I've caught a lot of flack for jokes. 0.54

00:54:10.000 And I believe at one point, Matt Walsh even joined, like a bunch of conservatives joined in gave me crap for a tweet.

00:54:15.000 And this is why I say feel compelled to defend when I go, well, hold on.

00:54:19.000 Even though it's not a joke, it's a statement made in jest.

00:54:21.000 I'm using the term broadly.

00:54:23.000 The one I wrote was I said, if, and it was in response to Lena Dunham back then, if an angry feminist is raped in a forest, but no one there to hear it, is she still heinously unattractive?

00:54:34.000 And people got so mad and conservative saying, we have to be better than this.

00:54:38.000 I was like, that's a solid bit.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 Like, I don't, and then Anna Kasparian, who's been welcomed into the fold with open arms.

00:54:48.000 I don't know why. 0.99

00:54:49.000 I was called a garbage person.

00:54:51.000 One of my favorite jokes that I ever wrote, and a lot of it is not necessarily written, was remember Christine Blasey Ford and Brett Kavanaugh? 0.96

00:54:56.000 I was a big thing.

00:54:58.000 And it was something like the setup was like she accused Kavanaugh of attempted rape in a letter to Dianne Feinstein.

00:55:02.000 And I'm paraphrasing.

00:55:04.000 And the letter that she gave to her psychologist contradicts the story that she gave to the New York Times.

00:55:10.000 And that contradicts the story given to her attorney. 0.99

00:55:13.000 And the attorney version contradicted with the story that she had given to the authorities who are still, it should be noted, pursuing the distinct possibility of her being a, quote, dirty lying whore. 0.99

00:55:25.000 And Anna Kasparian goes, I'm better. 1.00

00:55:27.000 That's a garbage person who would make that joke. 0.99

00:55:30.000 It's just a fact. 1.00

00:55:31.000 Christine Blasey Ford was a dirty lying whore. 1.00

00:55:36.000 There's not much more to it than that. 1.00

00:55:38.000 Let me go.

00:55:39.000 So on that vein, this is, and again, I want people to know, don't take this out of context.

00:55:46.000 I want to run some clips completely out of context the way they have been run as hit pieces on you so that you can clarify.

00:55:54.000 So this is going to seem really shitty, but I know that people have seen these and I probably already know the answer.

00:56:00.000 So we can have a bit of fun with it. 0.79

00:56:02.000 Here's one that people might have seen they use against you that, you know, the whole, the dating is gay thing.

00:56:09.000 If we're really being honest, never having a girlfriend, never having sex with a woman, really makes you more heterosexual. 0.98

00:56:19.000 Because honestly, dating women is gay. 1.00

00:56:23.000 Having sex with women is gay. 1.00

00:56:26.000 And having sex with men is gay. 1.00

00:56:28.000 And then, you know, it's really, it's all gay. 1.00

00:56:31.000 And if you want to know the truth, the only really straight heterosexual position is to be in a sexual incel. 0.96

00:56:40.000 Now, I have to treat this with the seriousness it deserves. 0.99

00:56:47.000 Do you believe that having sex with a woman is gay? 0.99

00:56:50.000 Because some could argue that intercourse with a woman is the most heterosexual thing that someone could do. 0.99

00:56:58.000 Well, you would think that by definition.

00:57:00.000 But at the same time, you know, it's the closeness with women. 0.64

00:57:04.000 I sort of see women as like the abyss. 1.00

00:57:07.000 And it's like the longer you stare into them, the more they stare back into you.

00:57:11.000 That's an experienced woman.

00:57:13.000 Yeah.

00:57:14.000 I mean, a lot of these like hypersexual men, they become more like women. 0.94

00:57:18.000 They become a little more gay. 0.94

00:57:19.000 So yeah, we have to acknowledge there's something very true there, something very true.

00:57:25.000 Well, I think the reason people also use this, and it really bothers me.

00:57:29.000 They go, oh, Nick is an incel. 0.96

00:57:31.000 As I understand it, you have always said that you are going to be waiting until you're married. 0.98

00:57:35.000 So they take something that's a virtue and use it against you, combined with, I think, what you just said was in jest and go, well, he's an incel who's gay. 0.66

00:57:44.000 Well, the incel thing is true. 0.99

00:57:45.000 I mean, women hate me. 1.00

00:57:46.000 Women can't stand me. 1.00

00:57:47.000 I'm 5'9.

00:57:49.000 I'm 5'9.

00:57:50.000 Women think I shouldn't exist. 1.00

00:57:51.000 That doesn't matter anymore. 1.00

00:57:52.000 I should be dead. 0.61

00:57:53.000 Yeah, I can see right now. 0.98

00:57:54.000 You've got big hands.

00:57:54.000 No, no, no.

00:57:55.000 You have notoriety right now, my friend.

00:57:57.000 You just go do some live shows.

00:57:58.000 They'll be throwing themselves at you, but still maintain that virtue.

00:58:01.000 You know, you have to learn to swat them away.

00:58:02.000 Don't stare into that abyss.

00:58:04.000 But no, that's what they'll do.

00:58:06.000 They'll go, oh, this is, you're not, that's not true.

00:58:07.000 You're not an incel.

00:58:08.000 Not at this point.

00:58:10.000 You choose.

00:58:10.000 You're a choose cell.

00:58:12.000 A volcel.

00:58:13.000 I'm Rizless.

00:58:14.000 I'm Rizless.

00:58:15.000 I have no Riz, Steven.

00:58:16.000 Okay.

00:58:17.000 All right.

00:58:17.000 And I won't do it.

00:58:18.000 I won't do the playful banter.

00:58:20.000 I just, I won't.

00:58:21.000 You won't.

00:58:21.000 All right.

00:58:21.000 I got it.

00:58:22.000 Well, that's, I don't know what Riz, I've learned about drip.

00:58:25.000 So neither one of us is wearing a whole lot of drip, but you seem to have a nice watch.

00:58:29.000 Thanks.

00:58:29.000 This is the other one that people have talked about.

00:58:31.000 I think it's, is this the one with Destiny?

00:58:34.000 I don't know.

00:58:34.000 I put these because they're each like a few seconds.

00:58:37.000 So I'll just play it because people go, ask them about this, and then you can clarify.

00:58:43.000 Again, I assume all of these are in just.

00:58:45.000 I'd be remiss if I didn't bring it up because I'm people like, I can't believe you let him get away with it.

00:58:51.000 All right, roll that one.

00:58:52.000 They want to get the Medal of Honor, the Congressional Medal of Freedom, because they went out with some, you know, some average woman and have a couple of kids and they live in some house where they're watching Disney Plus.

00:59:08.000 And he says, you go to the farmer's market.

00:59:11.000 It's a revolutionary act.

00:59:12.000 I don't think so, Buster.

00:59:14.000 Like, we need to go at the center, and that requires real dedication, real sacrifice that, yes, might involve actually not having kids for some people.

00:59:25.000 You know, does it ever cross people's mind that in a war, young men die?

00:59:30.000 Is this any different?

00:59:32.000 Is sacrificing a family life different than dying in a war for a political outcome?

00:59:39.000 I don't think so.

00:59:41.000 And I'm sorry, that's the wrong clip I meant, but we can address that one too.

00:59:44.000 The clip I wanted was of destiny about him being based or something.

00:59:47.000 But that one is one that some people obviously would say to bring up because us being replaced.

00:59:53.000 And by the way, I'm not using the term replacement theory because just like nationalists, the left tries to coin that, that that advice would maybe fly in the face of fixing the problem of us being replaced demographically.

01:00:06.000 Yeah, you know, I hear that all the time.

01:00:08.000 And I don't think the solution to demographic replacement is everybody that watches my show has kids.

01:00:16.000 Because even if everybody watches my show has kids, it doesn't solve the problem.

01:00:20.000 It's a political problem.

01:00:21.000 Like, why is our fertility rate low?

01:00:23.000 It's really, it's a policy problem and it's a societal-wide problem.

01:00:28.000 And so I don't like the idea.

01:00:29.000 It's sort of like, you know, you look at how society is, people go, oh, well, you know, if you don't like the way your city is, go move somewhere else or go do something else or change.

01:00:39.000 You know who you're talking about on that one.

01:00:41.000 Yeah, I mean, that's, but there's a lot of people that say that.

01:00:45.000 And I think it ignores the reality of politics, which is that if we want to change society, we have to change politics.

01:00:51.000 And a lot of people like to say, no, just be the change you want to see in the world.

01:00:55.000 I don't believe in spontaneous action like that.

01:00:58.000 I think that you do actually need people that are going to fight a very difficult battle.

01:01:02.000 And some may have families and some might not, but they have to put the political cause first.

01:01:08.000 And then you can change society by changing the capital.

01:01:10.000 And so that I really don't like when people say, oh, well, you know, if we all just had kids at the same time, it's like, okay, but who's listening to this?

01:01:17.000 Like 10,000 people?

01:01:19.000 The fertility rate is low globally.

01:01:21.000 And so it's going to need to be addressed by the state.

01:01:24.000 Yeah, I think people need to do both.

01:01:26.000 I was going in the silly direction, but not to go back to the serious, I think people need to do both.

01:01:30.000 And even people who go to war can do both.

01:01:32.000 And I think that you actually can see, you know, it was Andrew Breitbart who I kind of came up under his tutelage because I was just a comedian and he had Big Hollywood back then before was Breitbart trademark anything.

01:01:42.000 And he said that everything was downstream from culture.

01:01:44.000 I've heard people say both downstream and upstream.

01:01:46.000 I'm not sure which is correct.

01:01:47.000 But I would argue that's true.

01:01:48.000 And a big reason that birth rates are low is because culturally we have been bombarded with that for a long time because the world is going to end and it's morally wrong, right?

01:01:58.000 Population is a problem, overpopulation.

01:02:01.000 That's what we were told for a very long time.

01:02:03.000 So it justified, it was this confluence of that along with the feminist movement and sexual liberation, the idea of taking control of that. 0.94

01:02:11.000 And we really saw an anti-natalist country.

01:02:13.000 So I do think culturally it's important.

01:02:16.000 I agree with you.

01:02:17.000 I don't just think be the change you want to seek.

01:02:18.000 I think you need to have a plan and a prescription.

01:02:21.000 I would include in that encouraging people to have families, especially, you know, native born, not feather Indian, but native born Americans.

01:02:31.000 No, I totally agree.

01:02:32.000 Yeah.

01:02:33.000 I totally agree with that.

01:02:34.000 But I understand the point that you're making, that that can't be the only thing.

01:02:37.000 But I also don't want to take for granted that there's been some headway made on that, where you actually have a lot of young people now who are very pro-family and understand the necessity.

01:02:45.000 Whereas when you and I, I mean, you're younger than me, not that much younger than me.

01:02:49.000 When you were young and I was young, that wasn't considered a virtue or a duty at all.

01:02:53.000 As a matter of fact, the opposite.

01:02:54.000 So I've seen the pendulum swing, and I definitely want to continue that momentum.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, me too.

01:02:59.000 No disagreement.

01:03:01.000 Okay, this is the one.

01:03:03.000 It's not destiny.

01:03:04.000 It's something about the, again, the young milk that people run and go, you got to ask me about that?

01:03:09.000 Okay.

01:03:10.000 Right when the milk is good, I want to start drinking the milk.

01:03:12.000 Same thing goes with women. 1.00

01:03:14.000 I don't want to turn 30 and find some 20-year-old, 29-year-old woman that I have something in common with. 0.93

01:03:19.000 And it's like, hey, properly aged, like wine.

01:03:24.000 Women don't age like wine, they age like milk. 1.00

01:03:27.000 Okay, so the last part everyone says.

01:03:30.000 The first part, people go like, you want that milk when they're young? 0.99

01:03:33.000 I mean, we just did a whole segment on Rosh Hashanah where Indian men suck on their own mother's tits as part of a wedding ceremony, which is another reason that we should import none of them. 1.00

01:03:42.000 But what is it was a joke? 0.99

01:03:45.000 In jest, people are saying that you actually, you know, you want young women so you can suckle their milk.

01:03:52.000 Oh, well, no, they are the milk in the analogy.

01:03:54.000 It's not about their they age like milk.

01:03:56.000 No, um, no, of course not.

01:03:58.000 I think the age of consent should be like 25, honestly.

01:04:02.000 You know, it's like these 20-year-old children are out there getting married and having sex in college.

01:04:05.000 I don't know how anybody's okay with this.

01:04:07.000 Yeah.

01:04:08.000 You know, 20 years old, that's a child.

01:04:10.000 That's a literal child. 1.00

01:04:11.000 And men are having sex with them. 1.00

01:04:13.000 It makes me mad, honestly. 0.98

01:04:14.000 Well, now you've gone too far the other way.

01:04:16.000 25, like if it's a 20-year-old and a 20-year-old and they get married, I mean, like, Mary was pretty, she wouldn't meet that for like another 10 years.

01:04:24.000 We wouldn't have Jesus Christ.

01:04:26.000 Yeah, but now with the, you know, with the seed oils and everything, it's different.

01:04:30.000 So I, no, I think it should be way, way higher.

01:04:32.000 I, it pisses me off.

01:04:33.000 20 years old, that's a literal kid.

01:04:35.000 I can't believe you would even say that, to be honest.

01:04:38.000 What?

01:04:38.000 But two 20-year-olds getting married?

01:04:40.000 That's a literal child, Stephen.

01:04:42.000 How could she consent?

01:04:43.000 She's 20.

01:04:44.000 Oh, okay.

01:04:45.000 All right.

01:04:45.000 You're being facetious.

01:04:46.000 I'm teasing.

01:04:47.000 I thought we were being facetious.

01:04:48.000 I didn't know.

01:04:48.000 Well, yeah, I know, but that's you were just doing the opposite of it.

01:04:50.000 And considering that people will take it seriously, I said, I don't want them to take that.

01:04:54.000 And they're like, see, Nick is inconsistent.

01:04:57.000 But no.

01:04:58.000 I thought we were joking.

01:04:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:00.000 No, that is one thing, too.

01:05:01.000 Like, it's just often it's just older women who are jealous that men like younger women. 0.88

01:05:05.000 So, yeah.

01:05:06.000 Bingo.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

01:05:07.000 How many four-year-olds are like, well, you just want to hire her because it's like, yeah, now do the guy's wallet. 0.99

01:05:11.000 Shut up. 0.98

01:05:12.000 And we have the same thing with. 0.99

01:05:14.000 By the way, any questions you would like me to ask next week?

01:05:16.000 I have Jillian Michaels on the show, which the funny thing is, I don't feel the need to disavow you because you've said, like, you're not, you're not conservative.

01:05:25.000 I don't think we're in the same exact space.

01:05:26.000 There's some overlap.

01:05:28.000 But for the same reason, I wouldn't need to disavow, I mean, use Rokana as an example.

01:05:33.000 I mean, Rokan and I are not of the same stripe politically.

01:05:36.000 And so we can talk about it. 0.98

01:05:38.000 But any questions for the lesbian personal trainer, Jillian Michaels, who says that you declare all women want or need to be raped? 0.99

01:05:47.000 You got to press her. 0.98

01:05:48.000 You got to press her on letting me come on her show.

01:05:52.000 I saw you tweet that.

01:05:53.000 And I really appreciated, by the way, defending what I said about that topic.

01:05:58.000 If I say defended what I said about rape, it's going to sound really bad.

01:06:01.000 But like, I appreciate what you said because no, I am a rape defender.

01:06:05.000 I am a huge rape defender.

01:06:07.000 That's part of the overlap.

01:06:09.000 That's where we agree. 0.96

01:06:11.000 Provided the man is attractive, wealthy, and not a Somali crackhead. 1.00

01:06:16.000 But you didn't mention it.

01:06:17.000 And that was one where I just sort of, you know, filled in. 0.98

01:06:19.000 I'm like, well, I don't think I've never seen Nick say women need to be raped. 0.95

01:06:22.000 I assume that you were discussing, again, 62% of women have rape fantasies. 0.97

01:06:29.000 You were so real for that.

01:06:30.000 That was so real for you to say that.

01:06:32.000 Well, it's so repeatable that someone, like, we've done study after study.

01:06:35.000 This is not an outlier.

01:06:37.000 And what that means is a sexually dominant man. 0.92

01:06:39.000 I mean, look at, I mean, women's erotic literature right now is far worse than male pornography. 0.61

01:06:44.000 Neither one is good, to be clear.

01:06:45.000 Have you seen this book with the centaur thing?

01:06:47.000 Like, that's the new trend.

01:06:48.000 Yeah.

01:06:49.000 Oh, yeah. 0.70

01:06:49.000 It's disgusting. 0.70

01:06:51.000 Yeah.

01:06:51.000 It's like, look, even, you know, as a teenager, I'm not going to lie and say they've never seen pornography.

01:06:56.000 Of course, I've dabbled.

01:06:57.000 You know, we live in the 21st century and it's terrible.

01:07:00.000 We all fall short. 1.00

01:07:02.000 But, you know, usually it's a naked man having sex with a naked lady. 1.00

01:07:08.000 There's no centaur cock, no centaurs. 1.00

01:07:13.000 Yeah, well, in 50 Shades of Gray, that was like 10 years ago.

01:07:16.000 I know, I know.

01:07:17.000 And now it's advanced.

01:07:18.000 Now it's like refined.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, that's where that came from.

01:07:21.000 And we're all going to pretend like we don't know what's going on there.

01:07:23.000 Like they don't want to be choked now and everything like that.

01:07:25.000 I mean, yeah.

01:07:26.000 So you were real for defense.

01:07:28.000 No one wants to talk about it because it's uncomfortable, but it's true.

01:07:31.000 Well, because Christians will come down on you, too. 0.99

01:07:32.000 And that's the problem, too.

01:07:33.000 Is if you're like, oh, you shouldn't talk about it.

01:07:35.000 It's like, so what?

01:07:35.000 So we're supposed to address and combat evil without addressing it.

01:07:38.000 Every now and then, a lady's a little bit like, hey, come on, guys. 0.99

01:07:41.000 We all know this.

01:07:42.000 So just read their books. 0.99

01:07:44.000 Look at if Fabio's on the cover, read the book, go five pages in, someone's getting raped. 0.89

01:07:50.000 And, you know, we could argue whether it's healthy or not. 0.75

01:07:54.000 It depends if the mood strikes.

01:07:56.000 Is there anything else that, you know, we do have some chat from people?

01:08:00.000 Would you like to take a few chats and also let people know where's the best place for folks to find you since you are no longer deplatformed?

01:08:09.000 Yeah, I'm on X Nick J. Fuentes and Rumble, Nick J. Fuentes.

01:08:13.000 And yeah, let's do some chats for sure.

01:08:15.000 By the way, I think you and I agree too.

01:08:17.000 Elon Musk done a lot of good things.

01:08:20.000 I'm glad that he, you know, ex potential Antichrist.

01:08:25.000 Do we want to take some chats?

01:08:26.000 It's a candidate.

01:08:28.000 It's there.

01:08:29.000 Definitely on the H-1B stuff.

01:08:31.000 That was one where I think there's a lot more overlap.

01:08:34.000 I couldn't believe that I was seeing a lot of these astroturf people saying, yeah, H-1Bs, that's one of those things.

01:08:41.000 Huge disappointment with this administration.

01:08:43.000 I cannot express it enough.

01:08:44.000 And I do hope that the feedback mechanism that has seemed to work in the past with Donald Trump applies here because it's horribly ill-advised.

01:08:53.000 Noodles, do you have some chats for Nick?

01:08:56.000 And thanks again for taking the time.

01:08:58.000 I do.

01:08:59.000 Yeah, first chat from Court 070.

01:09:01.000 Question for Nick.

01:09:02.000 With as large of a ship that America is, how fast can we write the ship?

01:09:06.000 Can it be done in four years?

01:09:10.000 It's a good question.

01:09:11.000 No, I don't think it can be done in four years.

01:09:13.000 And so, in that way, I think maybe we agree on that.

01:09:17.000 We need reasonable expectations.

01:09:19.000 So I'm with you.

01:09:20.000 I'm not one of these people that can never be satisfied.

01:09:23.000 I'm not happy with the, like you said, even about H-1Bs, but no, the country can't be changed in four years. 1.00

01:09:28.000 It's going to take 15.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, I would agree.

01:09:32.000 It could be destroyed in four years.

01:09:34.000 I would say that it's a lot easier to destroy than it is to build something.

01:09:38.000 That's why I think these conversations are important, no matter how much we disagree.

01:09:43.000 Except for people who call for the actual death. 0.85

01:09:45.000 That's my standard when people go, because someone said, I can't believe you would have Nick on when Stephen Crowder, you say that you would never have someone on who calls for the death of anyone of a political stripe because Nick has called for the deaths of all Jews.

01:09:58.000 I'm like, well, by the way, I don't fully agree with some of the things that you say about the griffs, as we call them in French, but I've never heard you call for the death of all Jews.

01:10:08.000 When I'm talking about people like Hassan Pike or Destiny saying political violence against my opponent, that's a line because I had an imam on my show who called for my death and it got pretty dicey.

01:10:18.000 I was like, I'm not going to do that again.

01:10:20.000 That's my standard.

01:10:22.000 All right.

01:10:22.000 I think that's a fair question.

01:10:23.000 Next chat.

01:10:24.000 All right.

01:10:24.000 Next chat from Ignatim.

01:10:26.000 Do you consider Islam a major threat to the U.S.?

01:10:31.000 No.

01:10:31.000 And I said this on Alex Jones the other day.

01:10:33.000 I really don't.

01:10:34.000 And I think that, don't get me wrong, I don't want America to be Islamized. 1.00

01:10:39.000 I don't like Islam. 1.00

01:10:40.000 I'm not pro-Islam. 1.00

01:10:42.000 I'm Catholic.

01:10:43.000 But I think that politically, that is something that is trotted out whenever people start to scrutinize Israel too much because it's certainly more of an issue in Europe.

01:10:54.000 It's far less of an issue here.

01:10:56.000 And I think that is something that they try to get us to identify Muslims as our principal enemies. 0.99

01:11:02.000 And by they, I mean Zionists, because that is Israel's principal adversary in the Middle East. 0.98

01:11:07.000 And I don't think they have the same ranking in America as they do in Israel or in Europe, not by a long shot.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, I would say yes.

01:11:15.000 Mernats, because I was, again, I was raised.

01:11:18.000 I remember the school where I went in Greenfield Park, Quebec.

01:11:21.000 I watched some kids cheer when the second tower was hit, had a very, very large percentage of Islamic students, so much so that some of my homeroom class at lunch hour was turned into a prayer room.

01:11:33.000 And that's always where you and I differ is Europe, obviously, it's a bigger threat.

01:11:38.000 That's why I don't want us to emulate Europe.

01:11:40.000 And Canada emulates it in a lot of ways as far as the parliamentary system and as far as the sort of multicultural mosaic, to use their term.

01:11:49.000 If we emulate them outside of an actual Catholic theocracy, which I know you've said you don't want, you can't fill the void with nothing and it gets filled by the more brutal religion. 0.97

01:12:02.000 And that is something they're called to.

01:12:03.000 That's why we have 200 million Muslims on earth who believe that violence against non-Muslims and apostates is justified. 1.00

01:12:08.000 So do I think it's an imminent threat now?

01:12:10.000 No.

01:12:11.000 But we could be Europe if we follow their lead on that culturally, would be my case.

01:12:15.000 Maybe slight difference.

01:12:17.000 Next chat.

01:12:18.000 All right.

01:12:18.000 Next chat from DefenderXX.

01:12:20.000 Question for Nick.

01:12:21.000 How would you properly incentivize smart people of industry and technology into political leadership?

01:12:27.000 Would you want them in elected positions or appointed?

01:12:31.000 I think they should serve in the bureaucracy.

01:12:34.000 You know, because I don't really look at elected representatives as the people that are really in charge.

01:12:39.000 It tends to be more the departments, the agencies, and maybe advisors.

01:12:44.000 Maybe there should be some kind of new creation, but we live in a technological society.

01:12:50.000 I think we need some level of technocracy.

01:12:53.000 It's sad that we have these like 90-year-old, like you have Chuck Grassley in the Senate.

01:12:58.000 What does he know about wafers?

01:12:59.000 What does he know about chips?

01:13:00.000 What does he know about any of this stuff?

01:13:02.000 I think they should be advising Congress and they should be in the federal bureaucracy.

01:13:07.000 I heard that answer, and I'm a child.

01:13:08.000 So I heard you say wafers and chips and I was thinking nillow wafers and potato chips because I'm sure he's very familiar with those.

01:13:16.000 Nilla wafers.

01:13:17.000 It's noon.

01:13:19.000 All right.

01:13:19.000 Okay.

01:13:20.000 Let's grab two more chats and then let Nick go on his way because he probably wants to be with his people.

01:13:28.000 All right.

01:13:29.000 Next chat from Carfel.

01:13:31.000 Question for Stephen and Nick.

01:13:32.000 Okay.

01:13:32.000 With all the new additions to the conservatives, what do you believe is key to prevent infighting and find our center?

01:13:38.000 Ooh. 0.99

01:13:39.000 First off, I don't like saying finding our center because that sounds like eat prey love bullshit. 0.98

01:13:43.000 But outside of that, your floor, Nick. 0.97

01:13:48.000 You know, I guess the biggest thing is we have to prioritize what matters to us.

01:13:55.000 And for me, you know, when I look at the, it's like you said earlier, the number one threat to the country is the demographic change.

01:14:02.000 And so to me, that, if we're going to find the center, that's the center.

01:14:05.000 And I'm willing to compromise on other issues if we're going to stop the flow of immigrants. 1.00

01:14:12.000 And I don't care what the argument is.

01:14:13.000 I don't care the why, but we got to prevent them from coming in.

01:14:16.000 And then I would say on top of that, the priority is we got to put America first in foreign policy.

01:14:21.000 So in trade and war, we really need to fight the corruption.

01:14:24.000 And so I think as long as we rank those things, we can redefine like what it is to be America first.

01:14:31.000 Or not redefine that, maybe enshrine America first as the center of what it is to be right wing.

01:14:36.000 And then you could say a guy like Mark Levin, he really doesn't land on the same side as us because he's not on board with that.

01:14:41.000 Neither does Shapiro.

01:14:42.000 So that I would prioritize and maybe we can reconceive what it is to be on the right.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:14:49.000 I'd have to ask Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and see where they line up because I think on some of the close-handed issues, they do.

01:14:56.000 What I don't want to see happen is the only litmus test be if someone morally opposes Israel.

01:15:03.000 I think that it needs to include people, this coalition, people who think we should cut all funding and we should only look out for our own interests and remove foreign entanglement, remove ourselves from foreign entanglements.

01:15:14.000 But those people can also say, I hate Hamas and I think that Islam as a prescription is a greater threat to the West. 1.00

01:15:20.000 We may disagree as long as I think the important closed-handed issues, I would say, for me, immigration, absolutely, both morally and pragmatically.

01:15:30.000 People say demographic change and they go, great, replacement theory.

01:15:33.000 I'm talking about like this country will cease to be.

01:15:36.000 That is the thing.

01:15:37.000 And you combine the mass illegal immigration, the mass H-1Bs with the census rule change.

01:15:42.000 That is huge that people have overlooked.

01:15:44.000 I mean, I will say for all the flaws of this administration, I don't know anywhere else where you get a Tom Holman, big fan, had him on the show.

01:15:50.000 That's a guy who really is uncompromising, and he talks about the moral imperative to deport everybody.

01:15:55.000 He made it on this show.

01:15:56.000 He said that once they've seen what I've seen, they would.

01:15:58.000 So immigration, I would say First Amendment.

01:16:01.000 I would say Second Amendment.

01:16:03.000 I would say the idea of the destruction of the family.

01:16:07.000 We have to end anyone who pursues that can't be a part of it.

01:16:11.000 And then see what kind of a coalition we can build on that.

01:16:14.000 But I don't go along with people who go, we can compromise on all these other fundamentals, provided it's just immigration or Israel. 0.76

01:16:22.000 Because you can find some people who are to the left of everything on those.

01:16:25.000 They can't be in the coalition if they're not on board with a strong immigration plan.

01:16:29.000 But I think we can determine the closed-handed issues versus open-handed issues, like you're talking about, intervention.

01:16:36.000 For example, tariffs.

01:16:37.000 I think people could be pro or against tariffs.

01:16:40.000 I am pro these tariffs, but I wouldn't exclude them.

01:16:44.000 Okay.

01:16:46.000 Final chat.

01:16:47.000 All right.

01:16:48.000 Final chat from Elenoism.

01:16:50.000 Question for Nick.

01:16:51.000 You say that bombing the Middle East for Israel is not America first, but you also say you're against bombing Venezuela for killing Americans with fentanyl.

01:16:59.000 Care to elaborate?

01:17:01.000 Yeah, well, as far as Venezuela is concerned, I'm much more in favor of intervention there than in the Middle East. 0.92

01:17:08.000 And I've gotten a little flack for that because I do believe that the Western Hemisphere is our domain.

01:17:13.000 It's our sphere of influence.

01:17:14.000 That's the Monroe doctrine for 200 years.

01:17:17.000 As far as the boats are concerned, though, have I said I'm against that?

01:17:22.000 I guess what I don't like.

01:17:23.000 My impression was that, just to be clear, my impression of you, tell me if I'm wrong, was that you said, you know, like limited parameters.

01:17:31.000 We have to define objectives clearly, but you supported that more than other interventions.

01:17:36.000 You could be persuaded.

01:17:37.000 That was my impression of your view.

01:17:39.000 Am I wrong?

01:17:40.000 100%.

01:17:41.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:17:42.000 The only thing with the drug boats is it's a lie that Venezuela is responsible for a lot of the drug trafficking.

01:17:48.000 That's just a pretext.

01:17:50.000 And I don't even mind that.

01:17:51.000 Like you said, I could be persuaded to support an operation as long as it's clearly defined, effective.

01:17:57.000 If it works, I like it.

01:17:59.000 If they're able to get Maduro out and we get a good guy in, if they could do that and they know they're in the NSC, then sure.

01:18:05.000 But I'm very hesitant because regime change doesn't have a good track record.

01:18:09.000 But we do have legitimate interests here.

01:18:11.000 So I'm not opposed to intervention on principle.

01:18:14.000 Yeah, I would say I'm not opposed to intervention.

01:18:17.000 And I think the principle is, is it in America's interests and how necessary is it?

01:18:21.000 Where we would differ is I definitely think that Iran is the case. 0.96

01:18:26.000 I understand they also with Israel.

01:18:28.000 I know that your view of Iran is different.

01:18:29.000 You think that there's sort of a safeguard against Israel, a nuclear Iran. 1.00

01:18:32.000 I think that there's a reason that no nation around them, including people who would be more in line with them, want them to have nukes ever, ever, ever.

01:18:40.000 But I think that the principles, now we may disagree on the target or the place.

01:18:45.000 I think first off, the principle is to be very, very hesitant to do it.

01:18:50.000 And it goes through the filter.

01:18:52.000 Is this serving America's interests? 0.95

01:18:54.000 Because libertarians who act like there's no intervention that ever serves America's interests, well, that's silly. 0.60

01:19:02.000 Yeah, I'm not a libertarian.

01:19:04.000 I'm not even a non-interventionist.

01:19:05.000 I'm with you.

01:19:06.000 It's just got to be America first, and then we could do whatever we want. 0.78

01:19:09.000 Yeah, well, yes, yes, pretty much.

01:19:12.000 And Venezuela, yeah, you're right.

01:19:13.000 I don't think a lot of people are being killed from fentanyl from Venezuela.

01:19:16.000 But I will say, like, I also, again, culturally take an interest in, like, remember Code Pink?

01:19:20.000 Remember them?

01:19:21.000 Code Pink all.

01:19:23.000 The name rings a bell.

01:19:24.000 What are they again? 0.99

01:19:25.000 They were the yappy bitches who would show up at anything war. 1.00

01:19:28.000 You know, George Bush, it was Code Pink everywhere. 0.99

01:19:30.000 No war for oil.

01:19:32.000 Disappeared with Barack Obama and the drone strikes, then kind of reappeared.

01:19:37.000 You're just like, well, hold on a second.

01:19:39.000 Where did they go for all this time?

01:19:40.000 But I also look at these Venezuelan drug boat busters.

01:19:45.000 And by the way, they're also largely China-funded Code Pink.

01:19:48.000 So that always takes place.

01:19:51.000 I would argue that China is probably the primary threat.

01:19:53.000 Or not argue.

01:19:54.000 I think we're probably on the same page.

01:19:56.000 But these are one of those stories where culturally, when you tune in, and that's why we always have CNN on live every day, and I go, see, nothing up my sleeve.

01:20:02.000 So people know we're live because you and I both know a lot of people say they're live.

01:20:05.000 They're not live in this industry.

01:20:08.000 They go, and these people who were killed in this war crime. 0.86

01:20:10.000 I go, well, hold on a second, war crime. 0.86

01:20:13.000 Drug runners in the middle of the ocean on cigar boats with four outboard motors, no fishing equipment to be seen.

01:20:22.000 There could not possibly be collateral damage.

01:20:25.000 And then I go, oh, okay.

01:20:26.000 It's not about a war crime because you would say, look at the women and children.

01:20:30.000 Now you're saying, look at the drug runners on drug boats.

01:20:33.000 And that to me highlights that, again, the left hates the United States of America or they wouldn't be making a big deal out of drug runners in Venezuelan cigar cigar boats.

01:20:43.000 Yeah, no, I totally agree.

01:20:44.000 I mean, they're defending the worst of the worst this year.

01:20:47.000 It's like, don't deport criminals, don't blow up criminals, don't arrest people that are stabbing people in the neck.

01:20:54.000 So I'm with you on that.

01:20:55.000 And as far as Venezuela is concerned, even Iran, like I think a case could be made about Iran.

01:21:01.000 That's a whole other topic.

01:21:02.000 I know we're wrapping it up, but yes.

01:21:04.000 Yeah, but I'm not, I don't know that I 100% even agree with Dave Smith on this.

01:21:09.000 Like, I get where you're coming from.

01:21:11.000 I'm not in favor of proliferation.

01:21:13.000 I just have maybe a different prescription for how to solve it.

01:21:15.000 But I think we're fairly aligned on foreign policy.

01:21:19.000 Yeah.

01:21:19.000 Yeah, I think pretty close.

01:21:21.000 Or at least in principle.

01:21:23.000 And then that's where coalition matters because you go, okay, are we on these?

01:21:26.000 Okay, now let's look at these specifics.

01:21:28.000 And you're going to have disagreements on specifics, but I don't think anyone can be letting the door's disagreements on these foundational.

01:21:35.000 And I don't want to say prints because it sounds like old school conservative, but I mean non-negotiables is what I mean.

01:21:40.000 Like someone going, oh, we disagree on this, we agree on the specifics, but I want to take away all your guns and ban everyone for hate speech. 0.89

01:21:46.000 You know, like a Pam Bondi.

01:21:48.000 I don't think she should be in this.

01:21:51.000 Well, all right, Nick, I appreciate you taking the time.

01:21:54.000 I want to see if hopefully thought fair, productive.

01:21:57.000 I think it was pretty friendly.

01:21:58.000 We disagreed, but I'm happy about it.

01:22:01.000 Yeah, totally.

01:22:02.000 Great conversation.

01:22:03.000 Great getting to meet you.

01:22:04.000 Absolutely fair.

01:22:06.000 And yeah, I believe in conversations like these.

01:22:09.000 And I thank you for, I know you're going to get flack for it.

01:22:12.000 I thank you for giving me the platform and the opportunity.

01:22:14.000 So it's good to finally speak with you.

01:22:16.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:22:16.000 And hopefully, yeah, that's why I say give you the floor because I don't want anything to happen like what happened after with Tucker.

01:22:20.000 I won't do it.

01:22:21.000 And I don't want any drive-bys after.

01:22:22.000 That's how this works because people try and stir the controversy machine.

01:22:27.000 I think this had a beginning, middle, and end. 0.96

01:22:29.000 And Tucker was really shitty with what he did. 0.66

01:22:32.000 Like, here's the thing. 0.97

01:22:33.000 Whether I agree with him on some issues or you on some, it's just so bitchy to do that once you're gone. 1.00

01:22:39.000 You have my word.

01:22:40.000 I won't be doing that.

01:22:41.000 Yeah.

01:22:42.000 And likewise, I'll be singing your praises.

01:22:44.000 I'm a number one.

01:22:45.000 I'm a mug club guy now.

01:22:46.000 Okay.

01:22:46.000 Well, don't go that far because we were.

01:22:49.000 I endorse you completely.

01:22:51.000 Yeah.

01:22:51.000 No, It's just like, when you think Steven Crowder, think Nick Fuente.

01:22:57.000 All right.

01:22:58.000 All right.

01:22:58.000 Well, if I don't see you, Merry Christmas, Nick.

01:23:01.000 Thank you for taking the time.

01:23:02.000 Be well.

01:23:03.000 Thanks, man.

01:23:04.000 Merry Christmas.

01:23:04.000 Nick Fuentes, everybody.

01:23:11.000 All right.

01:23:12.000 To people out there who are, you know, I know people are going to look at that and go, well, everyone has their own thing as far as where you should press, where you shouldn't, where you disagree.

01:23:21.000 But my job as a host is to be fair and to host someone graciously as well as be consistent.

01:23:28.000 So people have a problem.

01:23:32.000 I don't really give a rest. 1.00

01:23:35.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

Louder with Crowder - December 04, 2025

🔴 Nick Fuentes Sits Down with Crowder 2025-12-04 18:05

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