Louder with Crowder - May 09, 2015


Nick Searcy Talks Hollywood Liberals || Louder With Crowder

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Rush Limbaugh David Limbaugh Nick Searcy Anne Gosnell Movie Andrew Klavan Justified Omar Dick Cheney Art Mullen Andrew WK Tom Hanks Joker William Morris Paradigm David Letterman Kermit Gosnell Jack Nicholson John Goodman Dirty Harry Sarah Palin and 11 more
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Actor Nick Searcy joins Steven and Alex to discuss his career, including his time on the TV show Justified and his new film, "Gosnell's Movie," directed by Clint Eastwood. They also discuss how they first met, how they met, and how they became friends.

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00:00:00.000 I usually just start bragging about what a big star I am, and that really is very...
00:00:04.000 Like, I've never heard of you!
00:00:06.000 Why do you keep saying...
00:00:07.000 The volleyball had a bigger part than you and Castaway.
00:00:11.000 Well, that's probably true.
00:00:14.000 So glad to have this next guest on with us.
00:00:17.000 You've seen him in a ton of films, the TV show Justified, which I know a lot of you out there love.
00:00:23.000 And he's actually directing the new film, Gosnell Movie.
00:00:27.000 You can check out more at GosnellMovie.com.
00:00:29.000 Why am I introducing him?
00:00:30.000 Nick Searcy, thanks for being on the show.
00:00:32.000 Thanks for having me, Steven.
00:00:34.000 I can't imagine how excited you must be.
00:00:37.000 Well, you're right.
00:00:38.000 You can't imagine it.
00:00:40.000 So we're glad to have you on.
00:00:42.000 I mean, listen, so we did the introduction now that the formalities are out of the way.
00:00:47.000 I'm trying to think of where we met initially.
00:00:50.000 Would it have been through Breitbart somehow?
00:00:53.000 It's one of those things where you just sort of miss it.
00:00:56.000 Yeah.
00:00:56.000 I think so, yeah.
00:00:57.000 I think it was through Andrew.
00:00:59.000 Yeah, we were probably at some gathering or other, and I had seen some crazy video you'd done or something, and then I came up and said hello.
00:01:06.000 I remember introducing myself to you.
00:01:09.000 You introduced yourself to me?
00:01:09.000 You did?
00:01:11.000 I think so, yeah.
00:01:12.000 I mean, you were very disrespectful, I remember.
00:01:15.000 Well, yeah.
00:01:16.000 I was.
00:01:18.000 That goes without saying.
00:01:19.000 I think I remember it, actually.
00:01:21.000 That was the function.
00:01:23.000 The secret meeting where Clint Eastwood was there, I remember.
00:01:27.000 Yes.
00:01:28.000 And I don't know if I ever told you, like, there's a certain level.
00:01:31.000 I'm pretty comfortable around.
00:01:32.000 I mean, you know, there are a lot of celebrities working in the entertainment industry.
00:01:34.000 I'm sure you're comfortable with them.
00:01:35.000 But there's a certain level of celebrity with which I don't know how to interact.
00:01:39.000 And I remember Clint Eastwood literally turned around and he was right there.
00:01:44.000 And I just said...
00:01:47.000 Hi, I'm Steven.
00:01:49.000 And he said, I'm Clint.
00:01:52.000 And I was like, okay.
00:01:54.000 And I remember my friend was playing on his phone.
00:01:54.000 I just shook his hand and left.
00:01:56.000 And when Clint was walking out, I remember this.
00:01:59.000 He looked at me and said, so did you rescue the princess?
00:02:05.000 That was my Clint Eastwood story.
00:02:08.000 The funny thing is, I was actually at a function this week, one of those secret functions, and I had to do an introduction on stage.
00:02:18.000 I was introducing the speaker.
00:02:21.000 And when I got there, they put me at the table, and right beside me was Clint Eastwood.
00:02:26.000 And I just froze.
00:02:27.000 I didn't even know what to say.
00:02:30.000 I was like...
00:02:31.000 Hi, Mr.
00:02:32.000 Eastwood, I'm Nick Searcy, you know, and that was it.
00:02:34.000 And I was so preoccupied with, like, thinking about, oh, no, I should have made a better speech because these jokes are terrible and I'm going to bomb in front of Clint Eastwood.
00:02:45.000 It changes the level of pressure.
00:02:47.000 I mean, what do you say to him when you have that body of work?
00:02:49.000 Like, hey, I loved you in every which way but loose.
00:02:52.000 Right, right.
00:02:54.000 Nobody has ever worked with an orangutan like you have. 1.00
00:02:57.000 Clyde was no joke.
00:02:59.000 I got a kick out of every which way you can.
00:03:02.000 I'm not even going to lie.
00:03:03.000 The funniest part of that film is where Clint Eastwood, for those of you who haven't seen it, he knocks a man out with a bass.
00:03:12.000 He's just fishing.
00:03:13.000 He's just completely...
00:03:15.000 Anyway, we can get into it. 0.96
00:03:16.000 And he beats the crap out of women in all those Dirty Harry films. 0.91
00:03:19.000 A lot of people just skim over those parts. 0.94
00:03:22.000 Well, that was the peak for Clint, I think.
00:03:25.000 I mean, you know, and just in terms of acting is that period.
00:03:28.000 But, you know, now he's...
00:03:30.000 He's surpassed all of that.
00:03:32.000 Yeah, it's like you can't say anything.
00:03:34.000 Right, and he's outwardly conservative, so people know that.
00:03:37.000 And people know if they follow you on Twitter.
00:03:39.000 Is it real Nick Cersei on Twitter?
00:03:42.000 No, it's yes, Nick Cersei.
00:03:43.000 Yes, Nick Cersei.
00:03:44.000 Even more presumptuous.
00:03:48.000 Yes, Nick Cersei.
00:03:49.000 Yes, it is I. So you're out of the closet as a conservative, so I don't want to ruin any careers here.
00:03:57.000 No, that's already ruined.
00:03:58.000 Don't worry about it.
00:03:59.000 Well, you're doing pretty well.
00:04:00.000 Well, it's interesting you say that because people do talk, right, about the blacklisting.
00:04:05.000 And I know coming up, you know, before I had my own platform that I had experienced it, but I do tend to believe that sometimes people blow their victimization out of proportion.
00:04:12.000 Sometimes.
00:04:14.000 The more time I spend around conservatives in Hollywood, I don't see that as the case.
00:04:20.000 Have you felt that pushback a lot?
00:04:22.000 Because you're so vocal.
00:04:24.000 Well, you know, I wouldn't know it, Stephen.
00:04:27.000 I mean, you know, I don't feel it from, you know, my agents or my managers or anybody like that.
00:04:34.000 I don't hear it from them.
00:04:36.000 I don't know what people are saying to me, saying about me behind closed doors.
00:04:41.000 If you don't get a role, they don't call you up and tell you why.
00:04:44.000 So I don't know.
00:04:46.000 It could be happening.
00:04:47.000 But frankly, I don't care because I'm old and, you know.
00:04:54.000 I'm fine You're not old, you're a character actor But what I'm saying is I'm kind of like reached the point where, you know, I can work with the people that I want to work with and I don't have to work with people who don't want to work with me anyway.
00:05:08.000 So that's fine.
00:05:09.000 It's what John Goodman called in The Gambler, the remake, the screw you position.
00:05:16.000 I'm obviously paraphrasing here because of the FCC. Exactly.
00:05:19.000 I'm kind of, you know, I'm kind of there.
00:05:22.000 Kind of there.
00:05:23.000 Yeah.
00:05:23.000 Well, I mean, justified, what is it?
00:05:25.000 Was it six season seven?
00:05:27.000 Six.
00:05:28.000 We did six full seasons.
00:05:30.000 What a great experience.
00:05:33.000 That's the longest series I've ever had, which is great at my age.
00:05:39.000 I can imagine.
00:05:42.000 Let's just be honest.
00:05:44.000 At six seasons with a show, obviously, it puts you in a pretty good position, not only professionally, financially.
00:05:50.000 Where a lot of actors don't really have that luxury and people know you when they see you.
00:05:54.000 Justified, so let me ask you about that.
00:05:56.000 So you're on the set of Justified.
00:05:58.000 Do you ever get into it with any of your co-stars and just, I mean, do you ever get into it as aggressively as you do on Twitter with the Hollywood libs on that set that ever happened?
00:06:07.000 No, they know better.
00:06:08.000 You know, a couple of times, it happened early on, like in the pilot.
00:06:14.000 I got into it with, not in a terrible mean way, but you know, I won't say who it was, but one of the stars said something about, it was back when David Letterman made a joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting sex with A-Rod or something,
00:06:31.000 and you know, and they kind of Right. 0.58
00:06:49.000 Listen, he's old!
00:06:53.000 I can't be held accountable.
00:06:54.000 I'm just going to steal stuff.
00:06:56.000 But you know what happened?
00:06:58.000 Basically, by the end of the show, everybody kind of knew where I stood, and they actually wrote it into the show.
00:07:05.000 I mean, in season five, they had...
00:07:07.000 Hold on, we have to go to break.
00:07:08.000 I want to talk about that when we get back Nick Searcy, Lotter with Crowder.
00:07:12.000 Back with the one and only Nick Searcy.
00:07:14.000 Yes, Nick Searcy on Twitter.
00:07:16.000 And Nick, before we left, you were going to tell us a story.
00:07:18.000 So you were, in this show, Justified.
00:07:20.000 And obviously I don't want to typecast you here, but that's just a show that so many people love.
00:07:25.000 And you said that, I mean, they wrote it into the show, right?
00:07:27.000 It was season five?
00:07:29.000 Mm-hmm.
00:07:30.000 Yeah, well, what happened was in season four, you know, there was this moment where Rush Limbaugh sort of mentioned the show, mentioned Justified on the air, and he mentioned me by name.
00:07:41.000 He said, you know, I was glad to see...
00:07:43.000 Art Mullen back.
00:07:44.000 Nick Searcy plays Art.
00:07:46.000 He's one of my favorite characters.
00:07:47.000 So I wound up, you know, through a series of, like, my friends tweeting me and going, oh, my God, Rush Limbaugh said your name.
00:07:53.000 And then I tweeted David Limbaugh.
00:07:56.000 And he, you know, basically, I went on the show the next day.
00:07:59.000 And Limbaugh interviewed me for about 12 minutes, you know, which was longer than he interviewed Dick Cheney, by the way.
00:08:07.000 But I think Dick Cheney just hung up.
00:08:09.000 Ah, what do you want?
00:08:09.000 Click.
00:08:10.000 Yeah.
00:08:11.000 But anyway, that kind of aired.
00:08:14.000 And then a couple of weeks later, one of the writers saw me and he said, you know, we listened to your Rush Limbaugh interview in the writers room.
00:08:21.000 I said, oh, really?
00:08:22.000 What did you guys think?
00:08:24.000 Well, we talked about it and we think you should do it again if you can.
00:08:30.000 Yeah, because I'm bringing in all that audience that you guys have been driving away for years.
00:08:34.000 Right.
00:08:35.000 But then in season five, they wrote a scene where my character is sitting in a truck on a stakeout, and he's listening to Limbaugh on the radio.
00:08:43.000 Right.
00:08:44.000 And then, you know, I think it's the first time in television history that a character has actually listened to Limbaugh during a show and then not immediately gone and strangled a puppy or raped somebody or done something awful, you know?
00:08:56.000 So it was just sort of like a normal guy listening to the radio.
00:09:00.000 Right.
00:09:01.000 Because after all, the people who listen to Rush Limbaugh, the 20 million, must be 20 million neo-Nazis, of course.
00:09:07.000 That's right.
00:09:08.000 Now, do you think that was, so Wright, what drove their decision?
00:09:12.000 Do you think it was just economics where they go, hey, this is a big audience and we don't need to alienate them?
00:09:16.000 Or do you think it was just kind of a throwaway?
00:09:18.000 They thought it was cool.
00:09:19.000 I mean, what's their motivation?
00:09:20.000 Because we know they lean to the left.
00:09:22.000 Well, you know, I think it was, I think really their motivation was accuracy.
00:09:27.000 I mean, they've spent a lot of time in Kentucky.
00:09:28.000 They've talked to a lot of the marshals.
00:09:31.000 And, you know, I mean, let's face it, it's like, let's just say there's a higher percentage of conservatives among U.S. marshals than there are among Hollywood liberals, you know, Hollywood's going movie business.
00:09:45.000 So I think they were just sort of being accurate.
00:09:47.000 And it seemed right to them that, you know, a person like Art Mullen, Would probably listen to Rush Limbaugh.
00:09:55.000 That's a good point.
00:09:56.000 Very fair point.
00:09:57.000 That actually, funnily enough, is sure to not anger anyone.
00:10:01.000 We need to get your Twitter persona out here just to make sure that you're throwing bombs. 0.99
00:10:05.000 We'll get there.
00:10:06.000 We'll get there.
00:10:26.000 And then Clavin was named director, Andrew Clavin.
00:10:30.000 Sorry, writer.
00:10:31.000 And you are director.
00:10:32.000 So how did that happen?
00:10:35.000 And I mean, there's a big difference between, right, just discussing a Letterman joke on set and doing something this bold.
00:10:42.000 What's the reaction been like?
00:10:45.000 Well, how it happened was that, you know, Ann and Phelan and I had been friends and I sort of was involved in the fundraising campaign a little bit and they asked me to recommend some directors and so I recommended a couple of people and they met with them and For whatever reason, they were too busy or they didn't want to do a movie this grim.
00:11:07.000 They came back and said, do you know anybody else?
00:11:10.000 I said, well, I directed a movie a few years ago.
00:11:12.000 Would you like to see it?
00:11:14.000 I showed them a movie I directed almost 20 years ago.
00:11:19.000 They watched it.
00:11:20.000 We had a couple of meetings after that.
00:11:23.000 They decided to go with me.
00:11:26.000 I sort of felt like after talking to them...
00:11:29.000 That I really could direct this movie, and so I kind of, the more I thought about it, the more I felt like it was calling me.
00:11:37.000 Right.
00:11:38.000 What's funny when you say talk with them, we'll get back to the grim subject matter in a second, but when you say talking with them, it usually means talking with Anne, because I love Philim, but on the phone, I can never understand a word he says on the phone.
00:11:49.000 I'm the same way.
00:11:50.000 I have to go, what?
00:11:51.000 What?
00:11:52.000 Do we have a translator?
00:11:53.000 Right.
00:11:54.000 Well, they both have accents, right?
00:11:55.000 But when you talk to Philem on the phone, it's mumble like it.
00:11:57.000 It's kind of like sitting there like the movie Snatch.
00:11:57.000 You sit there.
00:11:59.000 But Anne, even though she has the accent, she enunciates it perfectly because she's very clear about it.
00:12:05.000 So I'm like, okay, Anne, I can understand you on the phone.
00:12:07.000 Philem, I love you, but I have to speak with you in person so I can read lips.
00:12:11.000 Right.
00:12:12.000 That's a very good impression of Anne.
00:12:14.000 Oh, thank you.
00:12:14.000 Hopefully they'll still be friends after that.
00:12:17.000 Now, you do talk about this, right?
00:12:19.000 The grim subject matter.
00:12:22.000 I mean, people talk about actors going into method acting.
00:12:25.000 And listen, sometimes it's a little overblown.
00:12:27.000 But you do definitely, in a way, submerse yourself into the project you're working on, right?
00:12:33.000 You're talking about 22-hour days.
00:12:34.000 A lot of people don't realize the amount of work that goes into a film.
00:12:37.000 Have you had to guard yourself?
00:12:44.000 Yeah, I mean, especially at the beginning.
00:12:49.000 I mean, you know, in the opening, when we started really working on the script and turning it into a shooting script and really visualizing it.
00:12:58.000 Yeah, it's very difficult because it's a movie that you have.
00:13:02.000 It's also a movie that you can't see everything that you're talking about because people just wouldn't be able to take it.
00:13:08.000 So you kind of have to find a way to tell the story without it being a festival of gore or some sort of exploitative-looking horror film.
00:13:08.000 Right.
00:13:20.000 And so we managed to make it, I think, into a really compelling crime drama and a courtroom drama, which is more about detecting him and arresting him and convicting him.
00:13:34.000 And it's not so much about...
00:13:38.000 I mean, of course, the darkness of what he did is part of the story, but it's not the main part of the story, let's say.
00:13:46.000 Of course, for those listening or seeing this right now, Kermit Cosnell, of course, a famous abortion doctor who, and really, there's no other way to put it, a mass murderer by anybody's standards.
00:13:57.000 So that's got to be tough to deal with.
00:13:59.000 And like I said, I mean, sometimes people, and I know, I mean, don't you teach, don't you have acting classes?
00:14:05.000 No, I have a public service acting school, which is just maybe – it's just video classes, which I offer free of charge as a public service to America.
00:14:14.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:16.000 Very nice.
00:14:17.000 With Nick Searcy.
00:14:18.000 You can find it on YouTube.
00:14:19.000 This is true.
00:14:20.000 This is one thing, okay, while we're talking about Gosnell, let's get off because it gets too serious, but – One thing, though, when people, they can be so self-aggrandizing.
00:14:28.000 I mean, we talk about wanting to be accurate, right?
00:14:30.000 And that's true.
00:14:30.000 But then when you have actors, and I've had friends like this who are going, you know, I'm playing a cop, so I went on a ride-along.
00:14:36.000 I'm going, you think that you know what it's like to be a cop because you went on a ride-along, not in Detroit, in Gross Point.
00:14:44.000 Like, there is a certain level of self-importance, don't you think, that comes with, even though it's hard work, actors sometimes who make it seem a little bigger than it needs to be?
00:14:54.000 Yes, absolutely, Stephen.
00:14:55.000 But, you know, I mean, that's true of a lot of actors.
00:14:58.000 Not of me, of course.
00:15:00.000 I'm not a self-aggrandizer.
00:15:03.000 And I have every right to be.
00:15:05.000 And I'm just, I don't choose to.
00:15:07.000 Well, there's nothing you could say that would be self-aggrandizing short of calling yourself a demigod.
00:15:12.000 That's true.
00:15:13.000 It's not bragging if it happens to be true.
00:15:15.000 Well, like an example, right?
00:15:17.000 I got into an argument when the Heath Ledger thing The Joker came up.
00:15:19.000 So first, let me preface this.
00:15:21.000 Probably one of the best performances ever in cinematic history.
00:15:25.000 I went in ready to hate it because I thought there's no way he's going to top Jack Nicholson.
00:15:29.000 You know, he's a hipster, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:31.000 Like, this is just a bunch of hype.
00:15:32.000 And I left saying, wow, that's amazing.
00:15:34.000 But what did bother me is when it came out, the story, right, of how he passed away, which is tragic, even more tragic that he left children behind.
00:15:43.000 They go, well, it was just the role consumed him.
00:15:45.000 He was the Joker for, you know, nine months after that.
00:15:47.000 And I'm going, really?
00:15:48.000 Because I've been in enough film sets in my life.
00:15:49.000 You believe that when they yelled cut, he was going to the craft services table going, can I have a ham sandwich?
00:15:55.000 I mean, it doesn't happen that way.
00:15:58.000 Right.
00:15:59.000 I do think that that is overblown, I think.
00:16:02.000 And every actor is different.
00:16:03.000 I mean, some actors live in that role, you know, because they feel like they have to.
00:16:08.000 Yeah.
00:16:08.000 Some are, you know, like me.
00:16:11.000 Is that good enough?
00:16:13.000 Okay.
00:16:16.000 The check's still six figures, right?
00:16:18.000 Right.
00:16:19.000 We haven't lost my address, have we?
00:16:22.000 Well, don't say it out loud because I'm sure there are people who would love that address right now and send you some white powder in the mail.
00:16:29.000 Oh, well, I get a lot of stuff in the mail.
00:16:32.000 You wouldn't believe it.
00:16:33.000 Do you get actual, like, physical fan mail?
00:16:37.000 Yeah, I do.
00:16:38.000 On the internet now, you can find anything.
00:16:43.000 It's pretty harmless.
00:16:45.000 People send me pictures to sign, usually with a self-addressed stamped envelope.
00:16:50.000 As long as the letter that they write me is grammatically correct, I usually fulfill the request.
00:16:59.000 You ever get anything?
00:17:00.000 I mean, I've never gotten physical mail because I keep everything under wraps.
00:17:04.000 Have you ever gotten something a little weird?
00:17:06.000 I mean, because I would picture somebody who, sending an email anyone can do, but someone who takes the time to, you know, lick the envelope or, you know, stamp it with an old rubber seal as a screw loose.
00:17:17.000 Yeah, you know, I've gotten some prank calls. 0.68
00:17:20.000 You know, I've gotten some anonymous, like, envelopes with, like, you know, I hate you. 1.00
00:17:26.000 Why don't you shut your mouth? 1.00
00:17:28.000 You know, old man, I hope you die soon. 1.00
00:17:30.000 You know, stuff like that. 0.98
00:17:31.000 These are actually, at one point in history, that would be shocking.
00:17:36.000 But compared to the YouTube comments section, that's incredibly friendly.
00:17:40.000 You old man!
00:17:40.000 Okay.
00:17:41.000 It's a lot milder than Jew fag, which I get every day. 1.00
00:17:47.000 We literally, the last interview we did, and I don't know if we're going to have to bleep this word, syndicated dress, really. 0.98
00:17:54.000 We talked in the interview.
00:17:56.000 It was with Andrew WK. We talked about people calling me a Jew fag, even though I'm not Jewish or gay. 0.98
00:18:03.000 And then literally like eight comments down, someone who clearly... 0.99
00:18:06.000 We didn't watch the video. 0.99
00:18:09.000 You and Andrew WK are a couple of shoe fags. 0.99
00:18:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:18:14.000 It's just a horrible place.
00:18:15.000 It really is, you know.
00:18:17.000 But I always just tell them, hey, good luck in the seventh grade, you know.
00:18:21.000 Right.
00:18:22.000 What are you going to do?
00:18:23.000 Yeah, I mean, well, you're a pretty bright guy.
00:18:25.000 And obviously, you know, conservatism lends itself to that.
00:18:28.000 And you play it up.
00:18:30.000 Like, I just got corrected today where we were talking about the, you know, Lord of the Flies conch shell.
00:18:34.000 And I was like, it's conch shell.
00:18:37.000 I mean, how do you handle because you get so much of that.
00:18:41.000 And I'm sure it's even worse in person on set as a smart guy.
00:18:44.000 Do you just have to brush it off?
00:18:45.000 Or do you actually take time to correct everybody?
00:18:48.000 You know, I don't get it much on set.
00:18:51.000 I mean, people don't come after me in person. 0.98
00:18:53.000 They don't have the balls to do that, really. 0.79
00:18:58.000 But on Twitter, I just try to have fun with it and just make fun of people that are attacking me. 0.98
00:19:07.000 Yeah, you're one of the few people.
00:19:09.000 You go to the School of Andrew where you retweet it and you deal with it head-on and you deal with it through humor.
00:19:15.000 I usually just start bragging about what a big star I am, and that really is scary.
00:19:20.000 Like, I've never heard of you.
00:19:22.000 Why do you keep saying...
00:19:23.000 The volleyball had a bigger part than you and Castaway.
00:19:27.000 Well, that's probably true.
00:19:28.000 Yeah, it's true.
00:19:29.000 He had more close-ups.
00:19:32.000 Well, he also had the furthest shot I've ever seen in film.
00:19:35.000 Right.
00:19:39.000 But I always just tell him, you know, you really hurt my feelings.
00:19:41.000 I'm going to have to go swim in my nice, fabulous pool now.
00:19:45.000 Right.
00:19:46.000 Is it a saltwater pool?
00:19:47.000 Chlorine.
00:19:49.000 It's saltwater pool.
00:19:50.000 Oh, gosh.
00:19:51.000 It's more expensive, but I'm rich.
00:19:56.000 You're literally pouring salt water on the wood.
00:20:01.000 Let's keep you from one more segment so we can get back to more poor stuff.
00:20:04.000 Nick Searcy will be right back.
00:20:06.000 We are back.
00:20:07.000 Nick Searcy, thanks for staying.
00:20:10.000 I mean, I don't even know where to take it from there, but gosh, it's funny.
00:20:15.000 I mean, there was a time where people like you, though, even if these people say, well, you're not a big enough star.
00:20:19.000 Wilson was a bigger star.
00:20:21.000 I mean, listen, okay, we're being honest.
00:20:23.000 You're not Tom Hanks, right, from Castaway, but people know you when they see you.
00:20:28.000 And Twitter has changed the level of accessibility.
00:20:31.000 with people like you.
00:20:32.000 There used to be a point where I feel like if anyone saw you, they would be so starstruck because you see anyone in a film, you know, it's, oh, oh my gosh, that guy's a film star.
00:20:40.000 And now with Twitter, since they can directly insult you all day, do you feel like that's sort of taking away some of the mystique of Hollywood?
00:20:47.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:20:50.000 I do.
00:20:50.000 And I'm not so sure that's a bad thing.
00:20:52.000 I mean, you know, it's sort of like Hollywood has always sort of through the years sort of sold itself as this like, you know, look at these royal people who are movie stars and, you know, everybody needs to, you know, they treat them as something other than human, you know.
00:21:10.000 And basically, you know, we're all just people.
00:21:13.000 Even if I have more money than you, you know, it's I'm still just a person.
00:21:18.000 And Tom Hanks has more money than me, and he's a person.
00:21:21.000 And, you know, it's like acting is just a job.
00:21:23.000 And it happens to be a job that if you get very lucky, it can pay you very, very well.
00:21:29.000 But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, it's just a job.
00:21:34.000 I'm not so sure that it's...
00:21:36.000 I think the democratization that has happened with Twitter is not necessarily such a bad thing.
00:21:41.000 Well, I think that's a good point.
00:21:43.000 We are all human, except for agents.
00:21:45.000 They're subhuman.
00:21:46.000 Right.
00:21:46.000 Right.
00:21:47.000 Absolutely.
00:21:48.000 It's even worse.
00:21:50.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:21:51.000 What's always funny is, you know, I mean, I've been with, you know, William Morris Paradigm and the agents who come in, their sales pitch.
00:21:58.000 Have you ever gotten this one where it's like, well, we're agents, but we act very managerially?
00:22:03.000 Yes, I have heard that phrase.
00:22:05.000 We function more like managers.
00:22:08.000 Right.
00:22:09.000 And you're like, oh, so I don't need a manager.
00:22:10.000 No, no, you should still have a manager and give them a cut. 0.70
00:22:13.000 Yeah, and a lawyer.
00:22:14.000 Right.
00:22:14.000 And a publisher.
00:22:15.000 Yeah.
00:22:16.000 We're going to answer the phones for you, okay?
00:22:18.000 Yeah.
00:22:19.000 I mean, that is true.
00:22:20.000 That's one thing.
00:22:21.000 You know, when I went out in the entertainment industry, I remember when I went out to L.A., you know, and I had a few roles right away clip along.
00:22:28.000 There's actually a good story.
00:22:30.000 We can maybe talk about the actors' union.
00:22:32.000 I wasn't allowed to step foot on set of ABC Family's Greek, even though I had been in a union in Canada since I was 12 years old.
00:22:38.000 And it's supposed to be reciprocated with ACTRA as Canadian and SAG. And they said, well, it is, but it's like a several thousand dollar fee.
00:22:47.000 I said, well, okay, just take it out of my check.
00:22:49.000 You'll get that in the first episode here.
00:22:51.000 I said, no, no, no, you have to pay it up front.
00:22:54.000 So, my brother, fortunately enough, was one of the first YouTube partners.
00:22:58.000 He made, like, he had a video getting 7 million plays and he lent me the money and I paid him right back as soon as I did the role.
00:23:03.000 But when you think about it, that really is the entertainment industry and I think this sort of, it does stem from this narcissistic liberal mindset.
00:23:10.000 I hate to politicize it.
00:23:11.000 They do eat their young.
00:23:12.000 Do you feel like that's a real problem?
00:23:15.000 Eat their young in what sense?
00:23:17.000 What do you mean?
00:23:18.000 Well, I mean, they just think they can't.
00:23:19.000 I mean, there's no one who comes out of that industry as a general rule who comes up through the system.
00:23:25.000 I mean, you're already successful now.
00:23:27.000 You're an older gentleman.
00:23:28.000 But it just seems to destroy young people.
00:23:32.000 Like, it's corrosive to the soul.
00:23:34.000 Maybe it's just me, but I feel like that's a noticeable trend.
00:23:37.000 I think it's very hard to start in this business as a child or a young adult.
00:23:45.000 If you get a lot of success early on, it's all based on what you look like at a certain point in your life.
00:23:52.000 If that look changes to the point that it's no longer marketable, And you still think you should be treated the way you were treated when you were royalty because you were on a television show.
00:24:02.000 It can really mess you up, you know?
00:24:04.000 And, you know, I think that's true to some degree at any stage.
00:24:09.000 I didn't really get started in the film business until I was 31 or something.
00:24:14.000 I'd done a lot of plays, but I'd never get arrested.
00:24:16.000 Well, how did that happen then?
00:24:17.000 I mean, most people at that point are winding down.
00:24:19.000 If they haven't hit their home run by that point, they're packing their bags.
00:24:23.000 What's the story there?
00:24:24.000 31, Nick Searcy...
00:24:27.000 Well, actually, I was thinking of packing my bags.
00:24:29.000 We had been in New York.
00:24:30.000 My wife and I had been in New York for a long time.
00:24:33.000 And, you know, I'd done a lot of plays, but never gotten a film career started.
00:24:37.000 And then she came up pregnant somehow.
00:24:40.000 I don't know how that happened.
00:24:41.000 But we decided we couldn't have the baby in New York City.
00:24:45.000 So we moved back down to North Carolina.
00:24:48.000 I was thinking of going back to school and maybe getting a master's degree or something.
00:24:52.000 I got a little agent in North Carolina.
00:24:56.000 Since I'd been in New York, you know, they thought I was something special.
00:24:58.000 So they sent me out a lot.
00:25:00.000 And there were a lot of movies that were shooting in North Carolina back then.
00:25:02.000 I sort of got a little part in Days of Thunder, a little part in Prince of Tides, you know, some other things that came in.
00:25:09.000 And then I wound up reading for a little part in Fried Green Tomatoes.
00:25:13.000 And John Abnett, the director of that movie, said, I want to read Nick for Frank.
00:25:17.000 And I ended up reading for the main villain and got that part eventually in Fried Green Tomatoes.
00:25:24.000 And that sort of Gave me enough of a profile that I could...
00:25:28.000 Now, was one hour photo before or after that?
00:25:32.000 After that.
00:25:32.000 Way after.
00:25:33.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:34.000 Okay.
00:25:34.000 I remember seeing it and going like, I don't remember Nick was in that.
00:25:34.000 That would make sense.
00:25:37.000 It happens.
00:25:38.000 Yeah, that was 2000.
00:25:40.000 I think Fried Green Tomatoes was 1991.
00:25:44.000 That's kind of when it all started for Nick Searcy.
00:25:46.000 That's when it all started.
00:25:48.000 Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned it.
00:25:51.000 That was me with Montreal.
00:25:52.000 I started when I was 12, but I was fired at 14 because my voice changed doing voice work.
00:25:58.000 Well, that's what I mean, yeah.
00:26:00.000 It's like you just sort of go out of something and they're like, well, okay, we don't need that anymore.
00:26:04.000 Which I would think, for me, it bred a really strong conservative worldview.
00:26:04.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 I mean, I was raised in a Christian household.
00:26:12.000 No one can say I was raised Christian.
00:26:14.000 You have to choose at some point.
00:26:15.000 Everyone does.
00:26:16.000 But then what happened was being fired at 14 and sink or swim and going out in auditions and the rejection, I thought, well, this isn't fair.
00:26:24.000 Life isn't fair, and I'm just going to have to keep swinging the bat and be okay with failing.
00:26:28.000 And I thought they shouldn't be able to take half of my money once I do make it.
00:26:35.000 Literally, as a 13-year-old, I've been watching my Arthur checks.
00:26:38.000 And I was amazed that not everyone in the entertainment industry felt that way going through those experiences.
00:26:45.000 I know.
00:26:45.000 I mean, yeah, it is confusing.
00:26:47.000 I don't see how they think that that's fair, that, you know, you struggle to try to build something, you starve, you know, you work a odd job trying to build a career, and then finally when you build one, they start going, oh, congratulations, I'll have half.
00:27:02.000 Right.
00:27:03.000 Yeah.
00:27:04.000 Yeah, but it seems like...
00:27:05.000 There should be more outrage.
00:27:07.000 Yeah, there definitely should be.
00:27:07.000 Yeah.
00:27:09.000 And, you know, I'm not a huge fan, obviously, of unions in general and SAG. That was a real ordeal for me when I switched over from Canada to the United States.
00:27:17.000 But same thing, Montreal had a big film industry like North Carolina.
00:27:22.000 Or was it North Carolina or South Carolina, you said?
00:27:24.000 North Carolina.
00:27:24.000 North Carolina.
00:27:25.000 People in South Carolina don't really travel much.
00:27:28.000 They can't really cross state lines.
00:27:30.000 Yeah, it's tough to do with those.
00:27:31.000 What do you call those things on the trains that you have to manually pump on the train tracks?
00:27:36.000 Right.
00:27:37.000 Yeah, that's how they get around.
00:27:40.000 And what's funny, I don't know if you've ever shot anything in Montreal, but it was a huge hotbed for film because you have old port Montreal, you can make it look like London, you can make it look like Paris, and then you can make it look like New York City.
00:27:51.000 And then the unions came in and said, oh, there's this big industry, we can tax them more.
00:27:55.000 And they tax themselves out of a huge industry.
00:27:57.000 They don't shoot in Montreal anymore.
00:27:59.000 Yeah, and that's what's happening in California.
00:28:01.000 I mean, every movie that's...
00:28:04.000 I mean, if you're Iron Man, you can shoot wherever you want, because no matter what the tax rules are or the union rules, it doesn't matter.
00:28:11.000 But if you're a budget of $5 million or less...
00:28:16.000 You just almost cannot shoot in California because of the tax benefits and the conditions in a right-to-work state.
00:28:25.000 It makes your money go so much farther.
00:28:27.000 And so the entire film business right now is in Atlanta.
00:28:31.000 And if they're not in Atlanta, it's because Atlanta's too full and they're spilling over into other areas.
00:28:38.000 Everybody's fleeing California.
00:28:40.000 Yeah.
00:28:40.000 Do you think there'll be a rebound effect?
00:28:43.000 Do you think, kind of like with, I see now in my generation, with feminism and the anti-gun crowd and the political correctness, there's been a rejection of it.
00:28:51.000 There's been a rebound a little bit.
00:28:52.000 Do you think that'll happen with the entertainment industry because it's destroying itself in California?
00:28:57.000 Well, one can hope, but I think what's happening in California is that all the sensible people are leaving. 1.00
00:29:05.000 I'm stuck here with all these morons. 1.00
00:29:08.000 I can't leave because my wife and daughter love it here. 1.00
00:29:12.000 My daughter considers it her home.
00:29:17.000 Even though she's grown, I'm not going to move away from her.
00:29:19.000 She doesn't live at home, but I don't want to be in a separate state from my daughter.
00:29:25.000 How many children do you have?
00:29:27.000 I have two.
00:29:28.000 I have a 25-year-old and a 15-year-old.
00:29:31.000 Right, and the 15-year-old is the boy.
00:29:33.000 Yeah.
00:29:34.000 Now, you don't talk so much about him.
00:29:36.000 I'm not revealing any private information.
00:29:38.000 I mean, he's an adoptive son, right?
00:29:40.000 Yes, yes.
00:29:41.000 We adopted Omar when he was 15 months old.
00:29:46.000 Okay.
00:29:47.000 So, Omar.
00:29:48.000 So, I'm guessing he's not Scandinavian.
00:29:50.000 Yeah.
00:29:51.000 He's African-American or black, as some would say.
00:29:58.000 And, you know, we adopted him when we lived in North Carolina.
00:30:02.000 Gosh, that makes it tough to go with the racist narrative as a conservative.
00:30:07.000 But you know what's funny?
00:30:08.000 And I will say this.
00:30:09.000 And I was guiding you there because I remember seeing a tweet to you, something like that, saying, oh, yeah, why don't you show us your black son again to prove you're not racist?
00:30:18.000 And liberals say that like, oh, this is just, yeah, you're going to bring out your black friend or your black son to prove you're not racist.
00:30:24.000 And just because they say that, it doesn't make it any less valid of an argument.
00:30:28.000 Because the fact is, it is a Trump card.
00:30:30.000 You clearly aren't racist.
00:30:33.000 You know what I mean?
00:30:34.000 Right.
00:30:34.000 Yeah, I always say, yeah, when they started that with me, I always tweak them back.
00:30:37.000 I go, think about how prescient I was to 14 years ago adopt a black child because I knew I would need him as a tool to fight liberals. 0.99
00:30:49.000 That's so dumb. 1.00
00:30:51.000 You filled it out in the questionnaire. 1.00
00:30:52.000 And the reason for adopting child?
00:30:54.000 Trump card!
00:30:57.000 It's your race in the hole against the race card.
00:31:00.000 No, but it's true.
00:31:00.000 And a lot of conservatives back away like, oh, well, I don't want to say I'm not racist because I have a lot of black friends.
00:31:04.000 Or I don't want to say I'm not racist because, you know, I've adopted.
00:31:07.000 But the fact is, it is an example of racism by definition.
00:31:12.000 You wouldn't be close to someone if you hated them based on race.
00:31:16.000 And I remember reading that going...
00:31:18.000 I don't remember.
00:31:18.000 It might have been on Twitter.
00:31:19.000 You could maybe correct me.
00:31:20.000 I remember reading it going, yes, it does.
00:31:22.000 It does prove that he's not racist.
00:31:25.000 Well, you know, it's a funny thing about transracial adoption.
00:31:28.000 I mean, liberals really have a big problem with it.
00:31:31.000 They don't want to do it.
00:31:32.000 And the reason they have a big problem with it, the reason that they have so offended by the fact that I happen to be proud of my son Omar, is that they themselves can't imagine doing that.
00:31:45.000 They can't imagine adopting a child of a different race, and they're projecting that onto me. 0.96
00:31:49.000 And I just laugh at them and just make fun of them and throw it right back in their face.
00:31:55.000 That's why I'm hilarious.
00:31:59.000 Okay, before we go, because that's a very interesting point.
00:32:02.000 Why do you think it is that they can't imagine doing that?
00:32:07.000 Well, I think for the most part, leftists, whether they know it or not, are very invested in dividing us by race or gender or religion or whatever way they can do to divide us up into tribes so that they can control us and pit one of us against another.
00:32:25.000 I think they're very invested in that.
00:32:28.000 And if we really had racial harmony where there really was, you know, the races got along fine and didn't resent each other, Liberals wouldn't have anything to do.
00:32:38.000 They would never be able to get elected if that were true.
00:32:42.000 I could not have said it perfectly, more perfectly myself.
00:32:46.000 Sorry, I have to get that grammar correct because you are YesNickSearcy. 0.96
00:32:49.000 You can follow him on Twitter at YesNickSearcy.
00:32:51.000 And a photograph picture with grammar like that, I'll tell you.
00:32:54.000 Right.
00:32:55.000 And will you come back as we approach Gosnell movie, its release, and give us some more info on that?
00:33:02.000 Absolutely.
00:33:03.000 You know, as it gets closer and we have more info and we know who's in it and, you know, all that stuff, I'd love to come back.
00:33:10.000 Absolutely.
00:33:10.000 GosnellMovie.com.
00:33:11.000 Nick, thanks so much for stopping by, brother.
00:33:13.000 Appreciate it.
00:33:14.000 My pleasure, Stephen.
00:33:15.000 Good to talk to you.
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