Billy and Gerald are joined by State Department Undersecretary of state, Sarah Rogers, to discuss the recent mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado, as well as a story about a man who thinks he's a woman. Plus, Gerald tries to convince Billy that he's not a Christian.
00:00:23.000Say to me, how many, my wonderful time in my you should say Say to me, how many, my wonderful time in my you should say Father and guns is fair.
00:03:47.000But don't worry, it has nothing to do with being trans and there's no association with mental illness.
00:03:51.000And as of mission control, make sure that I'm still correct as of the time of this broadcast.
00:03:56.000Still, no mention at many of the major outlets that this shooter was trans and deranged.
00:04:00.000So, we're going to get into that, the ins and outs, what you need to know.
00:04:02.000There is fake news out there, as is the case with all of these events now, unfortunately.
00:04:08.000Outside of that, we have a very special guest today, the Undersecretary of State Sarah Rogers, who has been on a mission really over there in Europe.
00:04:16.000Tidings of free speech and some initiatives that are important.
00:04:20.000And you're also going to hear her quote somebody else and use the word, which is how I like my undersecretaries to be.
00:04:30.000I really like it when they use the word head.
00:09:51.000He invested in mentorship and support.
00:09:53.000He allowed himself to be stretched, corrected, and refined.
00:09:56.000You almost think he's the one who was out there cheating.
00:09:59.000He confronted himself with discomfort, the discomfort that you were committing adultery, and learned how to lead me away from committing adultery, love me in spite of your adultery, and stand firm in truth in ways he never had before in the face of adultery.
00:10:12.000It wasn't easy, she writes, because he committed adultery.
00:10:14.000It was humbling, I guess, because he committed adultery, so it was embarrassing.
00:12:25.000Now, the thing that most women in the church or many women in the church don't like is that even if he's not working on himself, it's still not, if you subscribe to the Bible, still not your place to tell him how to work on him.
00:12:34.000And it's certainly not your job to equip him with the tools that's between him and God and the men who hold him accountable.
00:12:40.000And it's certainly not your job to equip him after you have repeatedly committed adultery and embarrassed him all over social media in spite of the courses that you want to sell.
00:12:54.000This is the problem with the modern sort of feel-good self-help non-denominational church.
00:13:01.000Yeah, the Protestant church really does get a lot of things wrong.
00:13:03.000Unfortunately, I like the idea of a Protestant church that has a little bit more freedom, but I hate it when you completely run away from tradition and you completely go for stuff like this, like this new age idea of what a relationship with God is.
00:13:16.000By the way, I scrolled and I tried to find, I don't have an Instagram account personally, but I tried to find, so maybe it's there and I couldn't, her saying, here's what I did to work on me.
00:13:48.000Well, the good news is she has, if you find yourself in a situation like this where a woman cheats on you, falls in love with another man, abandons you and your family, the good news is there is hope for you if you subscribe to this course and if you follow her advice.
00:14:03.000For example, here is some advice that she gives to men on how to prevent cheating or the withholding of sex, should your wife be doing so.
00:14:16.000Yeah, make sure you get the breast in there.
00:14:20.000She writes, and she's like half German, has your wife ever shut down when you approached her or even when you were in the middle of being close to each other?
00:14:29.000I will not get into it right now, but here are three things you can do as a loving husband to tend your relationship so it can be long-lasting, fruitful covenant you both desire.
00:14:38.000Number one, during the day, no matter if you are at work or somewhere, this is advice towards men, by the way.
00:14:44.000During the day, no matter if you are at work providing a roof and protection, which I will abandon and take half, somewhere away, or if you are both in the same place, make sure to create moments of connection and safety for her, a hug, a smile, a deep gaze into each other's eyes, or prayer.
00:14:59.000This is part of your intimacy that will set the tone for many more things you experience together.
00:16:42.000Meaning, like then immediately come back together so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
00:16:46.000So not only is it described as a duty, not only is it reiterated as a duty, it's contextually reiterated without even using the word duty, saying that your own body is not under your authority but your husband's and vice versa.
00:16:58.000Then the Bible goes on to say, and contextually, if you both agree to it, for example, maybe a time of prayer and fasting, just like denying yourself sweets, which isn't in and of itself evil, of course.
00:17:09.000If you both agree, immediately go back because pragmatically, you are more likely to stumble or be tempted if you're denying either of your spouse sex.
00:21:58.000This is still on her Instagram page, you know, right beneath the new newsletter or course you can get on how to tell your husband to woo you back after you've cheated.
00:24:11.000And just so you know, it's always the man's fault.
00:24:14.000And to me, it's not even the promiscuity of her past that is the bothersome thing.
00:24:18.000It's the fact that she leaves it up there and then says all the stuff about how she left and how God saved her marriage and here, oh, by the way, buy it.
00:25:08.000How many pastors do we need to see rise to stardom and fall?
00:25:11.000How many people do we need to see come into Christ and then run away from it because they don't have any idea what it is?
00:25:16.000We cannot put these people out there and we cannot listen to them as experts on Christianity.
00:25:21.000And I think the problem, Stephen, is that you're pointing out is that the Protestant church doesn't know how to distinguish between somebody who's seasoned and somebody who should be listened to and somebody who's doing just like this because they're like, it feels good.
00:25:51.000Can you imagine genuinely any church that would host a man who had his old Chippendales video still up saying, I divorced my wife, cheated on her, but you know what?
00:26:02.000She really put in the work and I was willing to give her a second chance.
00:26:06.000Can you imagine that man's testimony at a church?
00:26:22.000The problem is the Jezebel spirit has been taking over the modern Christian Protestant church.
00:26:26.000And you can't blame secularism when you have failed your people in trying to moderate, in trying to pander to an audience who, by the way, will never actually care about the gospel and the truth.
00:30:00.000I'm going to get to who this person is, what we actually know, dispel maybe some of the fake news out there.
00:30:06.000This, I guess, would fall under the reverse Nirvana fallacy where people on the left would say, well, we haven't had a huge number of trans shooters.
00:30:13.000We haven't had a bunch of men in women's sports.
00:30:15.000That used to be in the changed my mind in 2016.
00:30:18.000It's like, well, okay, just because this hasn't been the norm yet, you are assuming that it'll all be great.
00:30:23.000We're looking at warning signs and saying, well, considering the comorbidities, considering the domestic violence rates, considering the suicidal ideation and attempts at suicide that are seen nowhere else in nature, maybe these people are showing us some warning signs as to mental instability, and we don't actually want to accelerate it.
00:30:42.000And now we are seeing these acts of mass violence occur at a very rapidly accelerating rate.
00:30:49.000It's hard to find empirical data on that because the powers that be don't want you to.
00:31:21.000The family says that the shooter targeted other members of his family and that, surprise, had mental health issues.
00:31:26.000I'm not sure if they sort of uncouple the mental health issues, like had mental health issues aside from being, you know, trans and believing that he was something that he couldn't possibly be.
00:31:38.000I'm not sure, but this is how it was described.
00:33:53.000Sometimes I'm trying to avoid copyrighted.
00:33:55.000It turns out better than this other person.
00:33:59.000But what I also do find funny about this particularly disturbed transie is that they decided to do spreads that looked like an early 90s moto mag.
00:34:10.000Like that is their niche in front of the Lambo, you know, in the female thong, in front of the motorcycle.
00:34:16.000Right on the heels, by the way, of his upcoming Motocross special on Disney Plus.
00:34:56.000As of the time of this broadcast, or at least when we started, several outlets made no mention of the trans ideation here after it was well known, meaning it was reported everywhere else on new media, you know, social media and confirmed.
00:35:11.000So places that didn't mention it at all, because even though their job is to inform you, they didn't think this was pertinent information.
00:35:49.000That would be most common, you'd imagine, because it's the largest demographic in this country.
00:35:54.000The reason that it matters if it's an Islamic terror attack or the reason that it matters if it involves a trans individual is because these people have told you their ideology.
00:36:05.000You don't have to go to the detective work of figuring out the motivation when they tell you.
00:36:11.000There are plenty of outliers and there are plenty of single incidents of violence.
00:36:23.000But as far as ideologically motivated crimes, if there's a pattern, that is important information if your duty is to keep the public informed and safe.
00:37:03.000As governor, a parent, and a former coach, my heart breaks for the victims, families, and everyone impacted by the devastating shooting at Lynch Arena in Pawtucket.
00:37:17.000I want to talk to the families out there right now.
00:37:21.000Too many Rhode Islanders know what it feels like to lose a loved one, a neighbor, or a friend to gun violence.
00:37:29.000And a tragedy like this is incredibly difficult for people of any age to process.
00:37:40.000Today, we are praying for Rhode Island and those who are suffering from this tragedy.
00:38:17.000He may, by the way, be a fan of some right-wing commentators.
00:38:21.000I'm sure if you took all the trans shooters, and there are many, if you took all of the violent trans people, some would like country, some would like hip-hop, they all like share.
00:40:20.000Like, yeah, where are you in a relationship with a narcissist?
00:40:23.000And that means like if a guy combs his hair, how about a guy who gets off on people seeing him in a dress and he's willing to sacrifice his family?
00:40:32.000The leftist said that's a virtue, by the way.
00:40:58.000Well, if the choice is that, or leaving and getting a sex change operation and then living a life of complete depravity, why is it so silly for people to stay together for the kids?
00:41:09.000Why is the notion so silly of, you know what?
00:43:23.000And this isn't to make fun or to tease.
00:43:26.000This is concerning that medical professionals aren't allowed to practice medicine the proper way and they're not allowed to give these people treatment.
00:43:31.000They're supposed to just go, yep, yep, yeah, sure.
00:43:36.000Yep, a background check for a gun, totally fine.
00:43:39.000Go shoot up your family in an ice hockey rink.
00:43:41.000Anytime a guy is looking at like doing something that's a little different, you look around to your friend group, like, okay, is this acceptable?
00:43:46.000Can I wear this color shirt or something?
00:43:52.000I want every trans person in America when they look around to the friend group, they find loving people that tell them the truth that that is not okay.
00:44:20.000This is the problem, too, with people on the right who go, well, you can do whatever you want as an adult.
00:44:23.000I have said that in individual interactions on, you know, let's say an acquaintance basis, I'll use the name that you legally have because at that point, I probably don't even know what your other name is.
00:44:33.000But I'm not going to act like you are the gender that you claim to be if you very clearly are not.
00:44:37.000I don't believe adults can do whatever they want to do so long as you stay away from kids because I believe you have no legacy on it.
00:44:43.000I believe, as everyone did up until the DSM 5, every single person who identifies or claims to be transgender needs to be classified as having a mental illness.
00:46:09.000Hey, maybe we can go in there and also see if they have write-ups about domestic violence in trans households and really in lesbian households.
00:46:16.000That's the only other place where it's really high.
00:46:18.000Maybe we can see if they write about the suicide rates.
00:46:20.000Maybe we can see if they write about the self-harm rates.
00:46:22.000Maybe we can see if these same places write about the comorbidity rates that you see with no other mental illness.
00:48:02.000Only when it negatively affects their feels.
00:48:05.000A woman cannot protect women from the transgender ideology any more than a woman can protect another woman from an angry 250-pound rapist on PCP.
00:48:46.000It just needs to be something that violates basic foundational principles of our country that women have the right to be protected from men.
00:49:50.000And I know we're going, I know we're getting our guest on.
00:49:53.000So let me just introduce some people out there if you're not familiar.
00:49:56.000So this next lady who we're going to have on the show, Sarah Rogers, she is the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy since October 2025, I believe.
00:50:05.000So she's really kind of in charge of informing sort of foreign bodies, foreign publics of the State Department policy.
00:50:14.000So almost like an ambassador type role, to be clear.
00:50:17.000And she's really been championing freedom of speech.
00:50:20.000I know we covered this yesterday, the RSF list as far as freedom of the press index.
00:51:00.000I'm going to read actually some statements from you as we get ready.
00:51:04.000So she's made quite a name on X with some heaters out there like this one she wrote.
00:51:09.000Germany infamously retains very few Jews, yet imported barbarian rapist hordes.
00:51:16.000As an American, I'm allowed to call them that, under Merkel.
00:51:19.000Even today, Germany suppresses political opposition who point this out.
00:51:24.000It's hilarious that she's like, as an American, I can actually say this, like, as opposed to your citizens who cannot say this.
00:51:30.000And we just, we just covered this yesterday.
00:51:32.000This is very important because it's central.
00:51:34.000It's foundational to our actual freedom of the press, the First Amendment.
00:51:37.000I wanted to play this clip that Sarah Rogers recorded while she was in Europe in December.
00:51:46.000I got off my European train and checked into my European hotel and noticed that a member of European Parliament called Helmut Bronstetter tweeted, quote, There's no censorship in Europe.
00:51:58.000Well, I'm traveling here on a diplomatic passport, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to say a few things that ordinary Europeans can't by revisiting some remarks for which people in Europe and also the UK have been investigated or arrested or jailed by their governments over the past few years.
00:52:14.000Similarly, a British woman was dragged out of her bath by 11 police officers after she referred in a private text message to a man who allegedly violently assaulted her as, quote, a faggot.
00:52:26.000And victims of violent crime aren't the only people who lack free speech rights in Europe.
00:52:31.000In Sweden, an activist called Erasmus Paladin was jailed after he burned a Quran and referred to Islam as gay Islam.
00:52:39.000Finally, in Germany, a man faced a criminal investigation for referring to Green Party leader Ricardo Lang as quote fat.
00:54:07.000Where some people out there actually believe that we have less press freedom than the place that has, I mean, just record number of journalists being killed for covering killing.
00:54:18.000God, I hope there's a retarded leftist out there somewhere going, you know what?
00:54:28.000Well, and you know, like all the hate speech stuff that was being talked about, all the bannings, all the shadow bannings, all the demonetizations, that was all going on under it.
00:54:34.000Primarily, let's look at the Biden years.
00:54:36.000Under the Biden years, we're only two spots better.
00:55:17.000Here's a really important question because I also see these people, these black pillars, who, you know, because they've kind of gotten in bed with populists, even like Bernie Sanders.
00:55:26.000I've even seen people talking about universal basic income and kind of using the talking points of the left.
00:55:34.000Would you trade or would you accept a scenario where if you say the wrong thing, you can be hauled out of the bathtub by 11 officers, for example, like fat via text, like fag via text.
00:55:44.000Would you trade that for more government-subsidized paternity and maternity leave?
00:56:42.000But as soon as we get her back on, we'll do that.
00:56:44.000But we can take some chat or, you know, I did want to make one quick point about the free speech thing that these countries are arguing.
00:56:51.000And we said this here in the United States a long time ago.
00:56:53.000And when Pam Bondi came out and made some comments about hate speech, we immediately jumped on those comments, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you have to understand what you're saying because there lies the path to not having free speech.
00:58:21.000Well, let's grab some chat while we're waiting for our guest here.
00:58:23.000And for those of you, by the way, who are not Rumble Premium, we're going to try and get Sarah Riders on the chat and we'll upload the clip if we get her going on Rumble Premium.
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00:59:06.000If these are people where you're revisiting these conversations, and I probably should do a better job of explaining this to you, there's rhetoric, there's debate, and there's trying to eliminate the continuation of a conversation.
00:59:19.000So the first time you speak with these people, use a Socratic method.
00:59:21.000Try and get them to rationalize their position.
00:59:23.000Try and walk through the reason process.
00:59:26.000Then if you find them continuing to use the same talking points, well, they don't have ears to hear, just find the shortest, most direct path to shutting it down and move on dismissively.
00:59:52.000And they'll often, if they're willing to have this conversation, they'll find out it's based on nothing most of the time.
00:59:58.000But if it's someone with whom you've already had this conversation, you just go, yeah, well, you know, 15 to 25,000 homicides a year with firearms versus 2 to 3 million defensive uses.
01:00:18.000If they say, oh, yeah, it's just for muskets, except for the pepper box revolver, except for the Gatlin gun, except for the Girondoni air rifle.
01:00:24.000No, none of that stuff holds any water.
01:02:08.000Should I still go to church if the only churches I can reach accept female ministry?
01:02:13.000I'm reluctant to support a church that ignores 1 Timothy 2.
01:02:17.000Well, okay, so a couple of things to be clear.
01:02:18.000Female ministry, like there can be women's groups where there can be, like, there can be female senior elders, obviously, in charge of women.
01:02:28.000But people don't necessarily, people don't like this.
01:02:30.000There is no situation in which a woman in the Christian church, in God's church, the one that we believe in in the Bible, is supposed to be an authority over a man.
01:02:40.000And that's not even just about wives submitting to husbands.
01:02:42.000That's about women in church submitting to the authority of men who are called to lead the church.
01:02:47.000So that means even if you have a disagreement, it is the duty of a woman to communicate privately with the man so that he may advocate on her behalf.
01:02:54.000And that is to discourage a spirit of chaos and of gossip where the same thing happens with men, by the way.
01:03:01.000Men are told, we're commanded to have designated leaders who will speak on behalf of us and to represent us so that you kind of have a conclave, you have a huddle, and then one person determines the direction because that exists in any other structure of hierarchy in nature, whether it's the military, whether it's a company, whether it's a sports team, you have a coach, you have a captain.
01:03:20.000So I would say, first off, be really sure that those are the only churches you can reach.
01:03:25.000And second, I understand your grievance.
01:03:27.000And I would say, hey, you could probably find a church online at that point.
01:03:31.000There are some churches now that exist online that then have groups in your area.