Louder with Crowder - May 06, 2015


Of COURSE We Should Draw Muhammad || Louder With Crowder


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Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

180.87805

Word count

1,236

Sentence count

77

Harmful content

Hate speech

7

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In this episode, we discuss the controversial "Draw Muhammad" event in which a man drew a picture of the Prophet Muhammad in a public place in order to provoke a response from the Muslim community. We also talk about the implications of the event, and how it could have been prevented.

Transcript

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00:00:01.000 Okay, so the Draw Muhammad cartoon has been controversial, and it's been talked about everywhere.
00:00:07.000 Let's just get to it.
00:00:08.000 I wonder whether this group that held this event down there, to basically disparage and to make fun of the Prophet Muhammad, does it in some way cause these events without the word causing?
00:00:18.000 How about provoking?
00:00:19.000 How about taunting?
00:00:20.000 How about daring?
00:00:21.000 How do you see the causality factor here?
00:00:24.000 Okay.
00:00:26.000 This was not designed to provoke, to make fun of, to be vulgar.
00:00:31.000 It was drawing a picture.
00:00:35.000 Drawing a picture is not hatred unless hateful people are now making the rulebook.
00:00:42.000 You understand this?
00:00:43.000 Look, I don't want to be insulting the freedom of speech.
00:00:46.000 Everyone has the right to freedom of speech, and it's good to stand by that principle.
00:00:49.000 And then he's going to tell you exactly why he doesn't stand by that principle.
00:00:52.000 These people are not standing by that principle.
00:00:55.000 They're standing by the principle of hatred for other people.
00:00:58.000 That's their guiding light.
00:00:59.000 That's what they do.
00:01:00.000 They are intentionally trying to provoke a response from the Muslim community And unfortunately, this was predictable. 1.00
00:01:06.000 And you know that because the police told them in order to hold this event, they would have to have $10,000 worth of security on hand.
00:01:13.000 They had a SWAT team outfitted like it was Baghdad.
00:01:16.000 So obviously, someone knew that there was a likelihood that some stupid person would do this.
00:01:21.000 So we're just going to skim over the fact that if you're going to have an event where you draw a picture, the only time where security comparable to Baghdad is necessary is when you're drawing Muhammad. 0.87
00:01:32.000 That's the only time.
00:01:33.000 And then we go right into, because some stupid person might make...
00:01:37.000 Some stupid person?
00:01:39.000 No, an ideologue.
00:01:40.000 Someone who follows Islam.
00:01:43.000 You can't skim over it and then just say some stupid person.
00:01:46.000 And again, I don't think it's any great revelation that if you shout fire in a crowded theater and you incite people and you say nasty invective about people's ancestors and their religious symbols, that there are a couple of crazy nutcases that are going to come out of the woodwork and are going to try to take action over that.
00:02:02.000 But that has nothing to do with Islam.
00:02:04.000 Yelling fire in a crowded theater?
00:02:06.000 Really, we're now equating the drawing of a picture to yelling fire?
00:02:11.000 In a theater, a picture is hateful.
00:02:14.000 Drawing a picture is that dangerous.
00:02:16.000 By the way, how is it not hateful for Islam to infringe on our culture? 1.00
00:02:20.000 There are Christians, there are Jews, there are plenty of other people from other faiths who have done the exact same thing.
00:02:25.000 Oh, they've done the exact same thing?
00:02:26.000 Please point me.
00:02:28.000 Please show me where Christians have tried to kill people for drawing a picture of Jesus. 1.00
00:02:32.000 Please show me where people have blown up thousands of audience members at Jesus Christ Superstar.
00:02:38.000 We have to be very careful here.
00:02:38.000 Don't worry, I'll wait.
00:02:40.000 When you provoke people and incite people, that doesn't make violent actions right, but don't be surprised that it happens.
00:02:47.000 And these people are not only putting Americans here at home at risk, they're putting American servicemen abroad at risk.
00:02:52.000 And that's what they don't seem to understand.
00:02:53.000 The same thing with the guy down in Florida who wanted to burn a bunch of Korans.
00:03:00.000 In Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere who are targeted by extremists, and that is simply not fair.
00:03:05.000 Okay, people always say, why do you have to politicize everything?
00:03:08.000 This is why liberalism breeds absolute pansies, because he doesn't understand here, okay?
00:03:14.000 Those soldiers who've lost those lives, those heroes, who they won't call a hero, by the way, who've lost their lives, did so...
00:03:22.000 In protecting the freedom for someone to be able to burn a Quran. 0.98
00:03:27.000 Guarantee you if you went to those soldiers.
00:03:29.000 Guarantee you if you went to them before they died and said, Hey, listen, you know what?
00:03:33.000 Some Muslims are going to be really mad because some guy burnt a Quran.
00:03:36.000 Do you blame them?
00:03:37.000 Is your death in their hands?
00:03:39.000 They wouldn't say so for a second.
00:03:42.000 They'd say, No, I'd probably lay the burden of my killing squarely on the shoulders of the terrorists who are forbidding the freedom that I'm fighting to protect.
00:03:53.000 Let me ask you about the predictable factor.
00:03:55.000 Maybe I shouldn't use the word cause, but when you do something that has a predictable reaction to it, you're pretty much getting there.
00:04:01.000 My question is, how often does this go on, do you know, that they have these displays of anti-Muhammad artifacts and paintings?
00:04:08.000 How often do they have them without a vent, without reaction?
00:04:11.000 Oh, I can answer that question, Chris.
00:04:14.000 Apparently, you don't have enough producers to do a Google search.
00:04:17.000 All the...
00:04:19.000 Time!
00:04:19.000 And I know some people are going to get upset by the cussing here, okay?
00:04:22.000 I'm not someone who gets up on traditional news outlets and always just sounds the doomsday siren.
00:04:28.000 America is circling the drain right now.
00:04:31.000 Freedom is absolutely circling the drain.
00:04:33.000 And if you don't get it, clearly they don't get it, you don't deserve the privilege.
00:04:40.000 You don't deserve the luxury of freedom.
00:04:44.000 If you're even willing to entertain the idea...
00:04:48.000 That maybe we shouldn't draw a picture to appease a group of people who might kill us for doing so.
00:04:54.000 You don't deserve the privilege of freedom.
00:04:58.000 How is it not hateful for them to infringe on our right to free speech?
00:05:02.000 It's the code on which our country was literally founded.
00:05:05.000 Why do we have to be more sensitive to their beliefs than they do with ours?
00:05:10.000 How is it not more hateful to say, hey, you can't draw that picture?
00:05:13.000 Well, really, why not?
00:05:14.000 Well, if you do, we just can't protect you.
00:05:16.000 That's not only hateful.
00:05:18.000 That's evil.
00:05:19.000 Which is worse, because hating something isn't inherently evil.
00:05:23.000 You just have to hate the right things.
00:05:25.000 Am I hateful?
00:05:26.000 Sure, I hate that Muhammad called for the deaths of Christians and Jews.
00:05:30.000 I hate that Muhammad married a six-year-old and beat the crap out of her. 0.98
00:05:33.000 I hate that Muslims, like in this case, feel entitled to the moral superiority in telling us what we can and cannot draw. 1.00
00:05:40.000 Those things I hate.
00:05:41.000 I also really hate the self-proclaimed conservative news outlets and media out there who are too cowardly to run these images themselves.
00:05:51.000 I hate that these conservative outlets will plaster themselves in red, white, and blue and be one of the folks and sing some country songs.
00:05:59.000 But when push comes to shove and there is a line drawn in the sand to stand up for liberty or to yield, they cower in the face of political correctness.
00:06:09.000 That I really hate.
00:06:10.000 To the conservatives who won't run these images, you deserve to lose.
00:06:15.000 You deserve to lose.
00:06:18.000 And by the way, we're not just talking about terrorism here.
00:06:21.000 We're not talking about a few lone extremists.
00:06:23.000 The religion of Islam, an overwhelming number of Muslims, believe that drawing a picture of Muhammad If you liked this video, subscribe by clicking my face.
00:06:45.000 And if you hated it, well, join the club and you're going to hate this next video right next to me.