On today's episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, Brian Callen. He's a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and podcaster. He also happens to be a member of the Proud Boys. In this episode, Brian and I discuss our thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement.
00:00:57.000The reason that a lot of white people don't have these kinds of conversations, like this, is because they're afraid of being accused of being... No, they're afraid of being accused of being racist.
00:02:52.000And just to be clear, this black and white and the gray issues, they're usually like very- we're doing one in a barbershop here going forward.
00:03:07.000I said okay and then we ran the cameras exactly as we had conversations with everyone else and it devolved very quickly and it went on for an hour but Spoiler alert!
00:03:18.000We end up finding some- I still reeled them back in.
00:03:20.000We found some common ground there at the end of that conversation.
00:03:52.000These are people who have risked something, but I also understand, and hopefully, and you guys can comment below, you understand that I don't agree with all of these people on all issues.
00:04:01.000Alex and I have had disagreements on air.
00:04:03.000But I'm not going to be... I feel compelled, and I think there are a lot of people out there, you feel compelled to defend these folks when there's a pile on.
00:04:12.000Maybe you don't even like Alex Jones personally, but you have to acknowledge the guy has the right to speak and he's been right about a lot.
00:04:25.000You can still hold that position and understand that it is a travesty of justice for someone to be getting 22 years who wasn't there on January 6th, committed no violence, and encouraged no violence by the prosecutor's own admission.
00:04:39.000So we're going to give you the ins and outs there today because guess what?
00:08:44.000And he would have been furious because you were part of the integration with school for the first time there in Detroit and he didn't want his children going to a racial jungle.
00:08:52.000Also, big fan of the N-word, former Vice President Joe Biden.
00:08:56.000But I wouldn't have graduated last in my class though.
00:09:17.000So we're going to, by the way, get into some claims and truths from former Vice President Biden that he's making about the economy right now.
00:09:23.000He's starting his presidential campaign.
00:09:25.000We've already covered it in the past, but the numbers actually have gotten worse since we last covered it.
00:09:30.000But before we get to that, you know, sometimes we get exclusives, like we have Mud Club Undercover later on.
00:09:34.000And Mitch McConnell, actually, by the way, this is right here on CNN, just to give you a heads up.
00:09:40.000Lindsey Graham just said he was concerned about Mitch McConnell, which is just, again, it's like, yeah, the 75-year-old is concerned about the 95-year-old.
00:09:50.000It's like the House of Spring Chicken.
00:10:01.000So as bad as that did look, right, what you just saw there, it actually does get worse.
00:10:05.000McConnell is concerned, sorry, Graham is concerned about McConnell, but former Vice President Joe Biden did say that he had called McConnell and we have the exclusive leaked audio.
00:11:37.000Sometimes you just need to... Let's zoom out here.
00:11:41.000You believe this man is leader of the free- you believe this is the most popular president of all- you believe this man received more votes than any other president in history?
00:11:50.000And you believe that this man is fit to serve- that this man is fit to be in the Oval Office?
00:12:27.000Come on, guys, let's have some coffee.
00:12:29.000Do you know how we know the game is rigged?
00:12:31.000They want you to believe that former Vice President Biden to respect the office Like I said, in my first two years, I've created nearly 13.5 million jobs.
00:13:12.000And we make all the references publicly available.
00:13:14.000The vast majority of those jobs are returning jobs that were lost due to COVID, right?
00:13:19.000We saw record job growth, but most importantly, and we'll circle back to this, we saw record wage growth for all Americans, black, white, middle class, upper middle class, Let's be honest about what this is here.
00:13:28.000It was internationally orchestrated COVID.
00:17:24.000And this is the most important claim that you need to be ready to debunk, because you'll probably hear this at Thanksgiving, when you go into election season, so here's the claim that they're making.
00:17:32.000And it is verifiably false, misleading, you could say untrue, and again we'll make the references always publicly available.
00:17:38.000He has tried to say that he's created millions of new jobs outside of, now he's trying to say get rid of the rebound from the pandemic, which by the way your party pushed, and also you said you would never take the vaccine because of Operation Warp Speed when it was Donald Trump's vaccine until you took credit, but I digress!
00:17:53.000He's trying to say that four million new jobs outside of the pandemic rebound have been created.
00:17:59.000So that's not true, but you'll hear this a lot.
00:18:02.000Here's a clip of him starting that tour.
00:18:04.000We've recovered all the jobs lost during the pandemic.
00:18:33.000There are more right now Americans working multiple jobs than in recent history.
00:18:39.000I don't know if we have the numbers going back all the way to the 1970s, but I do know that in recent decades there are more Americans working part-time jobs, working two jobs, and more Americans than ever working three jobs, working three shifts, just to be clear.
00:18:51.000And, pretty important with this, by the way, weekly earnings down 3.6%.
00:18:55.000since Biden took off. And that doesn't sound like a whole lot, but combine that with the inflation
00:18:59.000rate, so you're earning less money and it's worth less anyway. Yes. So that probably comes out to,
00:19:04.000I don't know, I'm not a math guy, but these are fake jobs.
00:19:07.000Yes. Americans have significantly less money today than they did in the past when adjusted for
00:19:13.000inflation or when not adjusted for inflation. And you add into that 30 year fixed mortgage
00:19:18.000rates, right? They've soared since former Vice President Biden has been
00:19:21.000you know, in office. 7.18% is the current rate. January of 2021 was 2.7... 2.77, I think?
00:19:30.000So I haven't done the math, but I think that means that you're in those golden handcuffs
00:19:33.000If you were to get into a new house, let's say you sell your house and it's worth half a million and you have to get a new mortgage, you probably have to get a house at around $290,000, something like that, over the course of its lifetime.
00:19:44.000I mean, the amount that you are going to be paying in interest.
00:19:46.000So, these jobs aren't new, just to be clear.
00:19:50.000There are jobs, full-time jobs, that have been lost forever.
00:19:52.000More Americans, millions of Americans, have lost their full-time jobs, but we've imported, good news is, over 600,000 foreign jobs, and your money is basically worthless right now.
00:20:08.000That's what he's going to go out and say, and nobody's going to challenge him on this.
00:20:10.000None of the media are going to point out the fact that all of those things that we just said are true.
00:20:15.000And look, if his number of added jobs is 4 million and it's 3.6 million part-time jobs, I get it that people need to get a part-time job, but not when it's 30% of the population considering a second job that already worked full-time, and 50-some-odd percent considering a third job?
00:21:12.000So you don't have to be a genius, but you do have to go one level deeper.
00:21:15.000Do you notice that the numbers the left always, they always pull?
00:21:18.000And you can see this if you, I highly recommend that you follow Joe Biden, the White House on Instagram, because they put out these numbers that just require a quick search to see is fake.
00:21:28.000And this always brings up the question, well hold on a second, do they not have Google or Bing or that bent back paper clip from the, you know, Word document?
00:23:04.000Well, and it feels like they get away with it because it's just, you know, you know that term headline news, that network, is that still a thing?
00:24:11.000You guys hit the YouTube dump button if you need to, but you're allowed to question election results right now.
00:24:15.000There's no way he wins this election unless it's stolen, just to be clear.
00:24:18.000You know what, just call me Amy Klobuchar, call me Kamala Harris, call me Hillary Clinton, call me Jimmy Carter, who all said that the only way Donald Trump could win is if he stole it, and then when he did win it, they said that he stole it.
00:24:28.000The only way that this guy wins, because of the disconnect, because you, right now, at home, with the clicker, On your couch.
00:24:35.000I don't know how you're watching this.
00:24:50.000When the leadership, when the elites become so out of touch that they don't even seem to be representing the people who have elected them, that's when they lose power.
00:24:56.000You're seeing that right now with Trudeau?
00:24:58.000And you are seeing the disconnect with this former vice president, and the media still trying to prop him up, still trying to drag him across that finish line, you know, weekend at Bernie's.
00:25:19.000I think you're going to get to that net number of people under Trump versus people under Biden, and their net, how far are they ahead?
00:25:27.000Yeah, well the average salary increase, I don't have it here on the map, the average salary increase under Donald Trump the first three years was over $5,000.
00:25:31.000I think it was $1,800 over eight years of Obama, and then if you adjust for, and this is all adjusted for inflation, with Biden it went down, the numbers.
00:25:48.000You're kind of a permanent renter's class.
00:25:49.000People look at that percent and are like, oh, two to seven percent.
00:25:52.000That is the going from, I can afford to make this house payment and have some money left over to do some savings to, there's no way in hell I can afford to have a house.
00:25:59.000Well, the good news is, if you rent, you know who the biggest purchaser of?
00:26:03.000Good companies that we know and trust?
00:26:05.000They have single family housing units.
00:26:07.000Vanguard, BlackRock, who, by the way, Elizabeth Warren deemed too big to fail.
00:26:13.000So you don't buy a house, you give them your money, and then when their business model doesn't work, Elizabeth Warren, being the for-the-people socialist that she is, has determined that Vanguard and BlackRock are too big to fail, and it's never ending.
00:26:22.000Hey, by the way, have you gotten your residual checks for the vaccine yet?
00:27:05.000Hey, hey, hey, we gave you many, many, many billions.
00:27:07.000How about you discount a few at election time for us, and I'll And they're already existing drugs for decades, so it's free for them to do it.
00:27:15.000They give a little discount, and Biden wears it like a badge.
00:27:17.000He tried to take credit for Donald Trump's slashing of insulin prices, by the way.
00:29:46.000This person reached out to us with this email regarding the events from late 2022.
00:29:51.000It said, there's a giant Black Lives Matter flag and pride flag in the math teacher's room, which faces the hallway that all kids walk through before trying the formal complaint written route.
00:30:01.000I had a meeting with the superintendent as soon as I knew about the flag and also a school board member, but they pretty much said that they were powerless because of the teachers' unions.
00:30:09.000So then this person, Mrs. Z, issued a formal complaint, and this is what all of you out there as parents should do.
00:30:15.000Issued this formal complaint with the school, citing racial discrimination, which I like.
00:30:20.000So, um, she said that, uh, uh, Stephanie Horn, uh, was engaging in anti-white people propaganda and has created a contentious adversarial space on school grounds.
00:30:31.000Uh, this promotes violence, division, and stating that just lives, uh, Black Lives Matter is discrimination based on color and that that is against state and federal regulations.
00:30:39.000Now, the Ridgefield School District Superintendent, Nathan McCann, the name being McCann, last name, first name, Nathan, I say this because these people, right, there's a huge difference.
00:30:52.000These people, they're supposed to serve you.
00:30:54.000Hey, public school, these are the true heroes.
00:30:57.000Well, let's show you just how heroic they are.
00:31:04.000Stating, I have determined that it was appropriate and not racially discriminatory for the district not to direct Mrs. Horn to remove the Black Lives Matter and Progress Pride flags from the windows of her classroom.
00:31:13.000As you know, due to your employment for the redacted government workers, including school teachers, do not lose all their First Amendment rights by the nature of their public employment.
00:31:22.000So, think of when people talk about the power differential, right, in relationships.
00:31:27.000Uh, men in the workplace, white people in the workplace.
00:31:31.000Is there any greater power differential than teacher and student?
00:31:35.000So, teachers, First Amendment, protected.
00:32:46.000I guarantee you the school district would probably step in at that point and say, well hold on, you're telling black people that their lives don't matter when you say all lives matter.
00:33:06.000It's the calling process before you hire these teachers.
00:33:09.000If you don't share these points of view, you don't get hired.
00:33:12.000You're not allowed in a club that is a teacher's union because they want to ensure that this kind of propaganda reaches your children day in and day out, eight hours a day.
00:33:18.000And as a parent, you have no say in the matter.
00:33:20.000Oh, and by the way, you want to use charter schools?
00:33:50.000I get that roots was pre-clan era, but you understand the point.
00:33:53.000Now here's the thing too, by the way, people have free speech here in this office, not everyone agrees with me on everything, not everyone agrees with you.
00:33:58.000We had a very similar situation. We had someone, Black Lives Matter, flags at their desk,
00:34:02.000progress at their desk, and we didn't fight. We just moved their desk.
00:34:53.000So, again, none of this is just happenstance.
00:34:56.000The superintendent explicitly endorses Black Lives Matter.
00:35:01.000So this is a quote from the superintendent, the fact that a display of, by the way the typos are just crazy, the fact that a display of a Black Lives Matter sign is not inherently racist or likely to cause violence within the school environment is demonstrated by the endorsement of the Black Lives Matter at school campaign by both OSPI and large Washington school districts.
00:35:19.000The fact that that flag is not likely to cause anything to happen at the School of Violence is because we say so.
00:35:26.000It's because the school district says so.
00:36:10.000So he says, OSPI has repeatedly tweeted about the Black Lives Matter at school week, described by OSPI as involving intentional conversations centered on racial justice and civic engagement.
00:36:21.000Oh, okay, so you just say racial justice, civic engagement, and apparently your school district tweeted some shit.
00:36:27.000So I feel comfortable with my children next to a male teacher with blue hair and giant fake purple.
00:36:35.000No violence associated with the Black Lives Matter movement, as you may be of suggestion.
00:38:05.000So Nick, Nick, what they're gonna do is they're gonna create what they call a phalanx, okay?
00:38:11.000They're going to create an angle of these shields.
00:38:14.000And what they're going to then have to make a decision to do is to either hold, which is they expect these windows to be broken, and people to advance.
00:39:56.000Equity, when you hear it, means this person is a racist.
00:39:59.000By the way, it's also important that you use that litmus test to differentiate between people who share your points of view versus wolves in sheep's clothing.
00:40:06.000If you see someone who claims that they are wearing your team jersey and they use words like equity, Nope.
00:41:36.000Because if it's people of color, if it's people who have gender identities or gender persuasion, sexual orientation, you're saying straight white people, aren't you?
00:41:44.000You're really saying straight white men.
00:41:46.000If you have a white boy in the Ridgefield School District, you need to take your white boy out of public school at the Ridgefield School District.
00:41:52.000He just told you they're not going to be treated the same.
00:41:56.000That is the starkest power differential with a teacher and a student.
00:43:37.000June 24th, 2020, the school librarian asked other staff to send her for Pride Month, quote, a short video or text and pictures about something or someone important to the LGBTQ plus rights and visibility.
00:43:50.000Boy, asking LGBTQ plus to send you pictures, you're taking your life in your hands.
00:44:01.000Then September 1st, 2020, a science teacher told a parent who objected to a Black Lives Matter poster back then that in science, women and people of color have long been underrepresented.
00:44:14.000I want students from marginalized populations to feel safe and supported in my classroom.
00:45:27.000This school district has had several bond issues.
00:45:29.000For those of you who don't know, that's like, please give us more money because we can do wonderful things for the LGBTQ community with it.
00:49:37.000And I'm going to explain to you why they are trying to make an example of the Proud Boys, and I'm going to give you a brief history lesson on the Proud Boys, what they actually are.
00:49:46.000You may think it's a silly organization, but to act as though this is a terrorist organization or to act as though this person deserves 22 years in prison is to simply be ignorant of the facts, and it is terrifying that we have our intelligence agencies weaponized to this degree.
00:50:01.000So if you missed it, Tuesday, former leader of the Proud Boys, They have to remove white supremacists from it because his name is Enrique Tarrio and you'll understand when you see the pictures.
00:51:49.000I don't accept that, but maybe you do.
00:51:51.000But even if you accept that, okay, you would have to accept their claim that this Enrique Tarrio was the mastermind behind 9-11, the sequel.
00:52:00.000It comes after a jury convicted him of seditious conspiracy, the judge calling Tarrio, quote, the ultimate leader of the conspiracy.
00:52:06.000Prosecutors say it was members of the Proud Boys who first broke through the metal gates around the Capitol, and that Tarrio was watching, posting messages on social media.
00:52:14.000Okay, so here's the truth, and we'll make all these references available.
00:52:29.000So January 5th, Tarrio had been banned from DC after he was arrested for vandalizing a Black Lives Matter banner.
00:52:35.000Now, the Black Lives Matter activists were not Uh, uh, banned or arrested for vandalizing public property.
00:52:41.000You vandalized their banner, now we're going to have to go to the rule book.
00:52:44.000According to NBC News, Tarrio, in encrypted... This is, this is them admitting it!
00:52:49.000Tarrio, in encrypted messages revealed during the trial, acknowledged receiving a message, meaning Tarrio acknowledged receiving a message from someone who wanted to, quote, storm the Capitol, but did not directly endorse the plan.
00:55:23.000Brian Krasenstein, ooh so when Gerald gets fired up you know it's bad.
00:55:26.000Brian Krasenstein said 20-25 years seems fair compared to the others sentencing.
00:55:31.000I'd be fine with anything over 15 years.
00:55:34.000Let me just, pull that back up for me real quick, real quick.
00:55:37.000Compared to the other people's sentencing.
00:55:39.000So basically what you're doing is using as your barometer for what this guy deserves is that other people were screwed so he needs to be screwed worse.
00:55:46.000But he liked that they were screwed just like the superintendent.
00:55:55.000And this is why Donald Trump has made everything public, because what happens is you're surrounded by lawyers and they say, okay, look, keep it quiet, we'll do this plea deal, because they want to minimize their risk and their losses.
00:56:04.000They say, do this, trust me, and then maybe we can plea it down.
00:56:06.000And then once it happens, they're gone and they'll probably go on to clients and other clients and say that they got this guy a reduced sentence as though it was a win.
00:56:14.000Do not go quietly into that goodnight, just to be clear.
00:59:01.000A lot of them, by the way, had no prison time.
00:59:03.000They didn't actually end up serving any prison time, or they had their cases dismissed.
00:59:06.000And, of course, not just Black Lives Matter.
00:59:07.000Remember Antifa, who, by the way, they took credit for the violent assaults?
00:59:12.000By the way, we encountered it ourselves!
00:59:14.000We've had our own producers assaulted, by the way, through Antifa.
00:59:17.000So we've experienced it, and you see, of course, the numbers across, again, hundreds of casualties, hundreds of serious injuries, and even some deaths.
00:59:33.000We look at Antifa as more of an ideology or a movement than an organization.
00:59:39.000Now let me add another little wrinkle here.
00:59:43.000Not only were the people who were convicted, federal charges of arson, of rioting, of violent assault, causing serious bodily injury, not only did many of them not serve any prison time, not only was the average sentencing time 27 months versus 22 years, in some cities, like Denver, the municipality had to pay out Black Lives Matter protesters for using quote excessive force To control the crowds.
01:00:09.000So in other words, these people aren't charged to create these kinds of violent riots, and then
01:00:15.000when you try and control them, you have to pay them out because you needed to use excessive force,
01:00:19.000we used to just refer to it as force, to control crowds in Denver exactly like these.
01:01:23.000Not to have a Ray Epps or anybody like that ever brought in for questioning.
01:01:28.000I mean, I know that I'm beating a dead horse here, but the horse is still alive and very free in this case and has not been brought in for questioning, but these guys' lives have been overturned.
01:01:37.000And let me tie this all together as to why.
01:01:38.000So remember, Black Lives Matter, their leader Patrice Cullors, of course, was huge in the George Floyd protests and venerated the George Floyd protesters, including the violent ones.
01:01:50.000Called for the abolition of the police.
01:01:53.000Called for the abolition of the police.
01:01:55.000So people in January 6th questioning the results of an election that, by the way, were completely unprecedented with mail-in voting that had never been seen before in violation of state constitutions, they're not allowed to question their government when you have these people actively calling for the abolition of the police when we have record police officer casualties?
01:02:11.000This person was obviously not charged with anything.
01:02:32.000And don't forget the politicians, Kamala Harris, people like that who said that they shouldn't get out of the streets when the Black Lives Matter people were rioting and actually setting up funds or contributing to funds to get those people out of jail that have been, I guess, excessive forced.
01:02:44.000I don't really know how to deal with this because they're not in any trouble at all, I think.
01:02:50.000That was the people that burned down the Minneapolis police house.
01:02:53.000Well, no, that's not actually a police house.
01:02:55.000That's just a white supremacy building.
01:03:06.000They're the black face of white supremacy as we've heard.
01:03:08.000And the reason they're doing this right now you see they were just talking about on CNN they were talking about Donald Trump in Georgia and they were talking about his indictment.
01:03:15.000This is why they're trying to make an example of this person again 22 years unprecedented was not there did not commit violence did not endorse violence is because they want to tie these people they want you this is this is okay the connection it's very simple start off January 6th Deadliest day in American history.
01:04:50.000They're gonna find some former Proud Boys who knew their best friend's girlfriend's sister's brother's girlfriend who knew this guy who saw Donald Trump at the Proud Boys 31 Flavors last night.
01:05:12.000Can I just bring this back to something?
01:05:14.000Because I think this all stems from one particular event that we called out that I think took almost a year because it was delayed by a hurricane that was 7,000 miles away.
01:05:28.000When we had a couple of Republicans who, thank God, they're out of government now because these people were simply the worst trying to lend legitimacy to something like this.
01:05:36.000It was this big propaganda machine saying that January 6th was the biggest and worst problem that we've ever had in the government, the biggest attack on the government.
01:05:42.000And look, we even have Republicans here that are saying this.
01:05:45.000They never brought in anybody to counter any of the opinions.
01:05:47.000And so what they did is forced everybody to think That this was, like you said, 9-11 too.
01:05:54.000And so we have to treat these people as terrorists now because we've had a hearing on this.
01:05:59.000We've had all the evidence brought forth.
01:06:03.000You have had somebody come out with, I'm not kidding, the worst propaganda that I have seen in my lifetime, and people are paying with it with 22 years of their lives.
01:06:12.000By the way, one of the other guys, 17 years, 18 years that we were talking about, Ethan Nordean, proud voice leader, sentenced to 18 years.
01:07:03.000Again, keep in mind, there were hundreds of thousands of people there that day who were protesting what they, not what they saw, protesting the violation of state constitution.
01:07:14.000For example, in Pennsylvania, there are multiple states that you could argue violated their own state constitution, but they were protesting, for example, mass mail-in voting, which they would say is unconstitutional.
01:07:21.000They were protesting the specific violation of state constitutions.
01:07:24.000They were protesting what they saw as an elect, and lockdowns, for example.
01:07:28.000All of this had culminated in, there were many reasons that hundreds of thousands of people were protesting.
01:07:32.000And then hundreds of people went into the Capitol.
01:07:35.000And again, hundreds of people, the majority of whom were escorted.
01:07:46.000As a matter of fact, I think any given day during the months of the Black Lives Matter protests, which led up to this, were worse.
01:07:52.000Proud Boys, most dangerous domestic terrorist organization?
01:07:55.000Nope, not a member, but it's not even close, and I certainly would put Antifa and Black Lives Matter for going by, I don't know, murders up there.
01:09:46.000Go to louderwithcrowder.com slash Mug Club because it's what allows us To at least try and stand in that pocket for even people we don't like.
01:09:54.000Even people who have never met Proud Boys people.