Louder with Crowder - #SJW Feminist Myths Destroyed by Karen Straughan | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 Because men are naturally protective of women. 0.81

00:00:02.000 And it's funny, you know, I've always talked about this.

00:00:05.000 Men didn't have a secret meeting behind women's backs. 1.00

00:00:07.000 Like, we're going to beat the hell out of them.

00:00:09.000 By the way, we're going to set this unrealistic standard of beauty. 0.99

00:00:11.000 I don't even like boobs and butts. 0.99

00:00:13.000 It'll mess with their head! 0.99

00:00:17.000 So glad to have this next guest.

00:00:19.000 I see that on every one of these guest segments.

00:00:21.000 But honestly, this is where I geek out.

00:00:22.000 This is actually the one guest for whom we've had Academy Award winning actors.

00:00:27.000 We've had war heroes.

00:00:29.000 All of whom I have great respect.

00:00:32.000 But really was looking forward to getting this woman, lady.

00:00:37.000 She'll clarify with her pronouns.

00:00:40.000 You can follow her on YouTube.

00:00:41.000 Girl Writes What? 0.98

00:00:43.000 Just Google that.

00:00:44.000 Karen Strawn, thanks so much for being on.

00:00:46.000 Oh, no, thank you for inviting me, and please don't ever refer to me as a lady again.

00:00:51.000 Okay, so woman? 1.00

00:00:53.000 Yes, definitely a woman, a little bit of a weirdo, and other than that, and my preferred pronouns are whatever people want to call me. 0.76

00:01:03.000 Okay, so broad is a middle ground.

00:01:08.000 Broad.

00:01:09.000 Broad.

00:01:10.000 Dame.

00:01:10.000 These are?

00:01:11.000 Dame.

00:01:12.000 I don't know.

00:01:12.000 I kind of like broad.

00:01:14.000 My mother-in-law, well, my ex-mother-in-law used to call me a tough bird. 1.00

00:01:19.000 Tough old bird.

00:01:20.000 Yeah.

00:01:21.000 That's a good one.

00:01:23.000 Yeah, you know, broad is kind of complimentary when you think about it because it typically means one is bosomy and that was something that men were attracted to.

00:01:29.000 So, okay, for people who aren't familiar with you yet, Karen, and they should be, girl writes what?

00:01:34.000 That's what you type in.

00:01:35.000 Tell them your kind of big claim to fame.

00:01:38.000 So some people would say, men's rights activist, I just sort of see you as a truth teller in the third wave feminist community. 1.00

00:01:45.000 I don't want to misrepresent you.

00:01:47.000 You introduce yourself to the world.

00:01:49.000 Well, I mean, people ask me what I identify as.

00:01:53.000 Primarily, first and foremost, it's anti-feminist. 0.98

00:01:58.000 And secondary to that is advocacy for the problems of men and boys and sort of a more balanced and positive understanding of masculinity currently and historically.

00:02:12.000 And some people sort of call me a gender theorist.

00:02:16.000 You know, I kind of go into the evolutionary psychology of men and women and how all of that works.

00:02:24.000 And so, you know, it's kind of a mixed bag.

00:02:27.000 I'm kind of like...

00:02:29.000 A little column A, a little column B, and yeah.

00:02:32.000 We'll refer to you as Z. You have not yet decided.

00:02:36.000 We call that Zed here.

00:02:38.000 Zed, that's true.

00:02:39.000 Yeah, you know what?

00:02:39.000 And I got kicked out of class, was raised in Canada, if you don't know, in Montreal, and the teacher corrected me and said Zed.

00:02:47.000 I said no.

00:02:49.000 She said, yes, it's Zed. 0.87

00:02:50.000 I said, okay, hold on a second.

00:02:51.000 Let me run this through for you, Mrs.

00:02:53.000 Mesher.

00:02:54.000 A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Zed.

00:02:59.000 What's wrong with this picture? 0.54

00:03:01.000 And I was kicked out and sent home with a note for being a smartass.

00:03:04.000 You know, you strike me as a person who probably got sent home a lot.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, I did.

00:03:10.000 I did.

00:03:11.000 And you know, it's funny.

00:03:11.000 I got sent home, you know, for like sending love letters or getting caught kissing a girl in the playground right nowadays.

00:03:18.000 That's considered a violation.

00:03:20.000 Sexual assault, yes.

00:03:21.000 Sexual assault for kissing a girl in the playground, which is just crazy.

00:03:25.000 I mean, that's how boys and girls kind of figure it out. 0.82

00:03:28.000 You say they're gross, but you do it on a dare.

00:03:30.000 So, for people who don't necessarily know, I mean, they call you men's rights activist, I guess is a term. 0.94

00:03:37.000 I think it's kind of a silly term.

00:03:39.000 But you do point out People would expect you to be a feminist because you show up at a lot of these panels and you come across very intellectual.

00:03:49.000 We'll get into that.

00:03:51.000 They expect you to be a feminist. 1.00

00:03:52.000 Short hair.

00:03:52.000 Short hair boycotted.

00:03:54.000 Yes.

00:03:54.000 No makeup.

00:03:55.000 No makeup.

00:03:56.000 I was going to say it.

00:03:58.000 I was going to say it down the line, but I didn't want to turn you off right away.

00:04:02.000 I totally project lesbianism all over the place. 1.00

00:04:06.000 Well, that's just like Gay Jared. 0.99

00:04:07.000 People assume and proposition them.

00:04:09.000 Yeah, even people I work with all day long.

00:04:12.000 Honestly, I never got hit on by women, even when I was young and hot.

00:04:18.000 And I don't know why that is.

00:04:20.000 I think maybe I just scare people a little.

00:04:23.000 Well, no, I wouldn't say when you were young and hot.

00:04:25.000 You're a pretty not lady, woman, broad. 0.99

00:04:29.000 You're a cute bird, see?

00:04:30.000 But yeah, no makeup, short hair.

00:04:32.000 People would assume that.

00:04:33.000 You really do point out some glaring inconsistencies in modern feminism. 1.00

00:04:37.000 And you argue that actually men right now have it worse off, that women have a leg up as far as sort of the cultural playing field right now. 0.61

00:04:48.000 And people throw a fit and they get furious at you until they actually listen.

00:04:53.000 What brought you to that and why do you think people react in the way that they do?

00:04:57.000 I think that they react in the way that they do because there's the sort of the cultural or the acculturation, the sort of education that they've got where, you know, so they've been exposed since early childhood to this narrative that women were always oppressed and they didn't have equal rights and they don't get equal pay for equal work and there's all of these memes going around that most of them are Either outright false or questionable, right?

00:05:27.000 Arguable.

00:05:28.000 The debate is not done on the entire question of the historic oppression of women, in my opinion.

00:05:39.000 And so, but these have all been presented to people as fact.

00:05:43.000 And they've internalized all of those messages.

00:05:47.000 And so they have this belief system.

00:05:49.000 And that belief system is also reinforced by their...

00:05:54.000 innate psychology, right?

00:05:56.000 This is why I go into evolutionary psychology a lot, just how we perceive other individuals, how tribalism works, how sexism works, how all of those things work.

00:06:06.000 And so it's very, very easy for, you know, for feminists to convince an entire society, a society that has seven different federal departments dedicated to women's health and wellbeing, none for men, that has affirmative action for women, that has done nothing that has affirmative action for women, that has done nothing but pander to women, women's interests, women's needs, spends way more money on women's health, despite the fact that men die earlier than women of 14 of the 15 leading causes of death, that, you know, more

00:06:31.000 despite the fact that men die earlier than women of 14 of the 15 leading causes of death, that, you know, more focus on depression and mental illness in women, despite the fact that men are three to four times more likely to commit suicide and be addicted to drugs and all of these things, right? despite the fact that men are three to four times Right.

00:06:51.000 You can convince society that this society that focuses entirely on women's well-being to the detriment of even children Right. 0.95

00:07:07.000 Right.

00:07:07.000 And it's because there's sort of a vulnerability in our psychology that makes that narrative.

00:07:12.000 I think particularly for men, because men are naturally protective of women.

00:07:17.000 And it's funny.

00:07:18.000 You know, I've always talked about this.

00:07:19.000 Men didn't have a secret meeting behind women's backs. 1.00

00:07:22.000 Like, we're going to beat the hell out of them.

00:07:23.000 By the way, we're going to set this unrealistic standard of beauty. 0.99

00:07:26.000 I don't even like boobs and butts. 0.99

00:07:27.000 It'll mess with their head. 0.99

00:07:29.000 Like, you know, there's no secret society.

00:07:31.000 The truth is, any guy I get, you know, I hang around. 0.99

00:07:34.000 Maybe one is a rapist. 0.99

00:07:35.000 But you'd think I'd know one who's like, I was raping this broad! 1.00

00:07:38.000 You know, if we're all rapists, then it would come up. 0.92

00:07:41.000 It never comes up.

00:07:42.000 Just kind of like, you know, you meet a genuine racist, and you're like, wow!

00:07:47.000 That really caught me off guard.

00:07:49.000 You just used the N-word and you weren't quoting Kanye.

00:07:53.000 So I think men are inclined to believe it because men do see women as more helpless than themselves, as those in need of protecting themselves.

00:08:01.000 They're like, wow, God, I don't want to mistreat them.

00:08:03.000 Yeah, we should give them that extra special precaution.

00:08:07.000 Do you think that's deliberately preyed upon?

00:08:09.000 It is part of that.

00:08:11.000 One of the problems with the feminist narrative over that, you know, it's misogynistic to consider women weak and consider them in need of extra protection and blah, blah, blah, because women are just equally as strong and capable as men.

00:08:23.000 But that's not why men feel that way about women.

00:08:27.000 Because, you know, ask any...

00:08:30.000 Geeky, nerdy guy, right?

00:08:33.000 What his experience was and has been, you know, being weak, being maybe unhealthy, being, you know, vulnerable, right?

00:08:43.000 A vulnerable person, right?

00:08:44.000 He wasn't...

00:08:46.000 You've got something to say about that.

00:08:47.000 He almost died.

00:08:49.000 Can we talk about that?

00:08:50.000 Yeah.

00:08:51.000 Had his lower intestine removed.

00:08:52.000 We'll get back to it.

00:08:53.000 But true story.

00:08:54.000 He was as weak as humanly possible, and his colostomy bag blew up on his significant other.

00:08:59.000 Sorry, continue, Karen.

00:09:01.000 I don't know if I can follow that.

00:09:05.000 It's a true story, Jared!

00:09:07.000 True story.

00:09:10.000 But no, essentially you have a completely different attitude toward men who are weak from men.

00:09:19.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 They're getting their underpants pulled up over their heads and getting stuffed into lockers, right?

00:09:25.000 Whereas the fragile, weak, helpless women are being protected by the majority of men, right? 1.00

00:09:31.000 And there's that impulse there.

00:09:33.000 And you find even, like I hear feminists saying all the time, you know, like the reason why the suicide rate for men is so high is because we teach boys and girls that they're different and we teach boys that their feelings don't matter.

00:09:46.000 And these are things that happen, you know, boys are encouraged to play further away.

00:09:51.000 From the parents, they're encouraged to be more independent.

00:09:55.000 They tend to fuss more, but parents wait longer before picking them up and comfort them for less time, on average, than with girls, right?

00:10:06.000 That's probably true.

00:10:07.000 I didn't even think about that.

00:10:08.000 Her problem is that she can't see... 1.00

00:10:12.000 Why we treat boys that way? 0.99

00:10:14.000 The reason why we treat boys that way is because we're preparing them for what's going to happen when they sprout a little shaggy here and get the little bump in their throat and their voice cracks, at which point even feminists are going to be like, oh yeah, you whiny piss baby, I'm just going to drink your male tears. 1.00

00:10:31.000 Right? 0.98

00:10:31.000 Nobody cares how they feel once they start actually sprouting some... 0.98

00:10:36.000 But they're so gross.

00:10:37.000 There's nothing more gross than like a 13-year-old sticky teenage boy with a laptop. 0.96

00:10:42.000 Well, agreed.

00:10:44.000 Okay.

00:10:44.000 No one likes them.

00:10:45.000 You don't get any free pass.

00:10:47.000 And you look at even just grown men, right?

00:10:52.000 Look at even somebody who wants to draw attention to the suicide rate in men.

00:10:58.000 I can get away with it.

00:10:59.000 But when men actually do that, what tends to happen is someone will bring up that women attempt suicide more than men.

00:11:09.000 That's another fact that isn't quite...

00:11:16.000 You know, in evidence.

00:11:17.000 I have never actually seen a piece of data. 0.99

00:11:20.000 Well, that would be horrible if that is true because that would be proof that women are more inept at suicide. 1.00

00:11:26.000 Yeah, they're either incompetent or they don't really mean it. 0.99

00:11:29.000 Yeah.

00:11:30.000 Well, we had a guy actually who jumped in Montreal from the Eaton Center.

00:11:33.000 I knew kids who were friends with him.

00:11:36.000 He jumped from the Eaton Center, which is four stories in Montreal.

00:11:39.000 It's like, you know, we have the second city in Montreal.

00:11:41.000 You go downtown, subterranean, and...

00:11:44.000 They found him on a security camera for three days prior in his lunch break walking back and forth on that walk before he actually threw himself over.

00:11:52.000 It turned out he had some kind of debts that he wouldn't have been able to protect his family from.

00:11:56.000 He thought that was a better option to protect his family.

00:11:59.000 And that really shocked me as a kid going like, well, I mean, this is not a guy who was trying to.

00:12:03.000 This was a guy who absolutely wanted out.

00:12:07.000 And it's very, very different.

00:12:08.000 And I think people need to take that into account when dealing with the stats.

00:12:11.000 They really do.

00:12:12.000 But, you know, if you bring up male suicide as a man, you'll have people say, well, women attempt it more, and you're just trying to make men out to be the real victims of suicide.

00:12:26.000 It's almost like they cannot think other than in zero-sum terms, right?

00:12:30.000 When you say men are also victims of suicide, Yes.

00:12:36.000 Right.

00:12:37.000 They assume that you're saying, oh, so you're saying men are the real victims of X. Right. 0.94

00:12:43.000 And nobody else can be a victim of it.

00:12:45.000 That's important because I also, I'm not in the men's rights camp where you get these people on YouTube who are like, actually, men, I don't want any special concessions made for men.

00:12:54.000 I think I'm totally fine with acknowledging that we're different.

00:12:57.000 Some advantages women will have, some advantages men will have. 0.98

00:12:59.000 And we're fine with it.

00:13:00.000 And they've been largely unwritten but agreed upon since the beginning of time, and I'm okay with that.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, no, the issue for me is that what feminism has seemed to want to do is give women all of the advantages that men have historically enjoyed, but none of the disadvantages, and to maintain all of the historic privileges of women. 0.99

00:13:20.000 So if you look, if you go back in, you know, to the 1700s and Blackstone's commentaries on the laws of England and Wales, you'll find that there is a provision in the criminal law at that time for domestic violence, to protect women from domestic violence.

00:13:37.000 One second, because I know the point you're going, and I dig it, but we have to keep the lights on from these evil capitalist sponsors.

00:13:42.000 Oh, dear.

00:13:42.000 So, Girl Writes What?

00:13:43.000 Karen Straughan, we will be back after this break.

00:13:46.000 If you leave, you're a patriarchist.

00:13:49.000 We're back with Karen.

00:13:50.000 Sorry, I cut you off, but I've heard you made this point because I've watched your long talks on YouTube, Pillar to Post, and you were talking about the criminal justice provisions for domestic abuse.

00:13:59.000 The floor is yours.

00:14:00.000 So essentially, as far back as Blackstone, probably earlier, you essentially had Blackstone.

00:14:06.000 Not only did he...

00:14:08.000 Did he include these provisions that protect women, that women have the security of the peace against their husbands?

00:14:15.000 But he also went and dissed the men of previous generations at the same time, and this is sort of what I call one good man syndrome, right?

00:14:22.000 So Blackstone is like this revolutionary man, right?

00:14:26.000 In modern times, you know, in the more enlightened era of Charles II, he's saying those men back then were really horrible and violent with their wives, but we men now, we're better than that.

00:14:38.000 And so then you go fast forward to Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 in his State of the Union address, and he was proposing bringing back the corporal punishment, the whipping post.

00:14:38.000 Right.

00:14:48.000 The whipping post.

00:14:54.000 Doesn't sound like that secret patriarchy meeting we've been hearing about.

00:14:56.000 No, it really doesn't.

00:14:57.000 But at the same time, the response to women who beat their husbands, that was all dealt with by the community.

00:15:05.000 It was an informal thing and it was dealt with by the community.

00:15:08.000 And so the men were shamed. 1.00

00:15:11.000 The neighbors would gather around the house and bang pots and pans and call them like a pussy or whatever. 1.00

00:15:16.000 Can I say that? 1.00

00:15:17.000 You can call somebody a pussy. 1.00

00:15:17.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:15:19.000 You can't actually refer to the anatomy because I've heard someone call Barack Obama a pussy actually on this home station here in Detroit. 0.99

00:15:27.000 But you can't say, she had a glorious, so continue. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Okay.

00:15:31.000 All right.

00:15:32.000 These are the rules.

00:15:34.000 When we go to the web extended version afterward, you can say whatever you want.

00:15:37.000 Yeah, no, that'll make me happy because I get stressed out when I can't F-bomb all over the place.

00:15:43.000 My apologies.

00:15:45.000 But essentially, so you had that or you had the riding the donkey backwards or they'd strap him to a cart and they'd parade him around town and people would throw stuff at him and jeer and call him all sorts of names.

00:15:56.000 The kind of stuff that when happened to a gay guy, I think Texas A&M was a national outrage. 1.00

00:16:00.000 This is just another Tuesday night for the pansy on the block who got swatted by Lucy. 1.00

00:16:05.000 Yeah, in the 16 and 1700s and 1800s.

00:16:08.000 And, you know, but one of the interesting things about it is like, so feminists came along with their revolutionary idea that domestic, hitting your wife is wrong. 1.00

00:16:19.000 Nobody actually knew it.

00:16:20.000 Society supported it and all of this stuff.

00:16:23.000 And we all bought it because, you know, because it actually...

00:16:27.000 Some men hit their wives and because of that, you know, it's like it's easy for us.

00:16:31.000 We get so outraged by it when you see that happening and you can see it in these social experiments on the street where, you know, you have a man who's being rough with a woman and it's all staged.

00:16:43.000 And there was one where he had three guys rush him and they shoved him down and he got all scabby on his arm and he had to yell, we're filming, we're filming.

00:16:53.000 Was this in Central Park and the black guys grabbed him? 0.93

00:16:55.000 Is that the one?

00:16:56.000 Yeah, I think so, yeah.

00:16:57.000 Yeah.

00:16:58.000 Because he was being rough with his girlfriend.

00:17:00.000 Right.

00:17:01.000 And at the same time, they reversed it, and she was like, she almost threw him through a plate glass window.

00:17:08.000 And, like, pushed him into it, and you could see the glass just, like, and...

00:17:08.000 Right.

00:17:14.000 Guys were laughing and they were walking by and smacking him across the head, joining in, helping her out, beating the guy.

00:17:23.000 So we have this way of...

00:17:26.000 I don't understand how we can live under this collective delusion where we somehow think that there's a war on women and that... 0.93

00:17:34.000 Gender violence against women is normalized and supported by society, and it's like a function of patriarchal masculinity. 1.00

00:17:42.000 Patriarchal masculinity, we have an entire body of Western literature going back hundreds and hundreds of years that defines the hero of the story as the guy who is willing to avenge wrongs done against a woman.

00:17:55.000 And the villain is instantly identified by his willingness to harm a woman or even be mean to her.

00:18:01.000 Right, right.

00:18:02.000 Yeah, well, women are children, generally speaking, and that kind of goes back to the idea that, you know, it's one of those things, and I've talked about this.

00:18:09.000 By the way, my wife has swatted me. 0.85

00:18:10.000 We've talked about it here on air, and I'm okay with it.

00:18:12.000 You know, can I say I deserved it?

00:18:14.000 No, and she didn't beat me, but what?

00:18:17.000 Why are you not in your...

00:18:19.000 I've witnessed these 99% of the time.

00:18:23.000 You probably deserve it.

00:18:24.000 Okay.

00:18:25.000 Okay, it's like Bill Burr. 0.97

00:18:26.000 You know, he's like, you know, every time I get punched in the face, you know, there's some point where I'm driving home, you know, and I'm thinking back, and, you know, I was kind of actually being a dick back there. 0.95

00:18:39.000 Right, yeah. 0.73

00:18:40.000 Not every beating just falls from the sky.

00:18:42.000 Yeah.

00:18:43.000 And I'm not trying to be a dick about it, you know?

00:18:46.000 But, yeah, I had...

00:18:49.000 Why is it so quiet in here?

00:18:52.000 No, my wife did it, and I kind of...

00:18:56.000 I totally juiced it for all it was worth.

00:18:57.000 I was like, I can't believe you.

00:18:59.000 If I did that, your father is here.

00:19:01.000 The cops are here.

00:19:03.000 I just – and I like left to grab a drink and acted like I was upset.

00:19:08.000 But really I was just thinking just put that one on the ledger for Stephen because I'm walking out of this one a winner.

00:19:13.000 So that's just like – that's why I want to make clear.

00:19:17.000 I'm not whining and saying, no, I'm fine with it.

00:19:20.000 I'm fine that every now and then I get swatted because my wife thinks it's acceptable because I crossed the line and I don't get to do it with her.

00:19:26.000 On the flip side, she puts up with a lot of stuff that I do that I would not put up with for I would be like, what are you doing? 1.00

00:19:34.000 These are stupid decisions. 1.00

00:19:35.000 I do stupid stuff, Karen. 1.00

00:19:37.000 I do very stupid things. 1.00

00:19:38.000 Agreed, agreed. 1.00

00:19:39.000 But here's the thing that drives me crazy, because I think that domestic violence, there are several different types of domestic violence, right?

00:19:48.000 So you've got the mutually combative couple.

00:19:51.000 It's never funny.

00:19:53.000 Sometimes it's funny.

00:19:54.000 And then there's unilateral female violence against a male partner, and then there's unilateral male violence against a female partner, and that is actually the most rare form that there is.

00:20:06.000 Female violence, sort of non-mutual violence is twice as common, where the woman Is extremely, sometimes extremely violent and the man never hits back. 1.00

00:20:16.000 She's trying to stab him and he doesn't even, he just grabs her wrists and never actually retaliates.

00:20:22.000 Right.

00:20:23.000 But you have these couples that are...

00:20:25.000 Well, that's why also, real quick, domestic violence is higher in lesbian households. 1.00

00:20:28.000 People don't want to acknowledge that.

00:20:29.000 They don't.

00:20:30.000 They don't.

00:20:31.000 But you have this big, huge swath of cases that are mutually violent, and most of those fall into something called common couple violence.

00:20:42.000 So it's a push, or it's a shove, or it's a slap, and it's generally external triggers.

00:20:50.000 There's the mother-in-law's visiting, or they're going bankrupt, or something like that.

00:20:55.000 Someone lost a job, and they can't pay their bills.

00:20:57.000 There's something there that's One second, because I want to continue this.

00:21:03.000 Let's keep you on air for one more segment, and then we'll go to the web extended, because I want my audience to hear this.

00:21:08.000 Gay Jared, find out the show clock, because I don't know exactly how much time we have in the next segment. 0.99

00:21:12.000 Girl writes what? 0.92

00:21:12.000 back after this. 0.92

00:21:13.000 We are back in the second hour.

00:21:17.000 We don't usually do this.

00:21:19.000 Usually we go straight to the web extended version, but I felt like it required some context because I just sort of let the bomb drop that my wife beats me. 1.00

00:21:25.000 So, Karen, you were talking about the domestic abuse statistics and information, which I find incredibly interesting.

00:21:31.000 Again, the floor is yours.

00:21:32.000 Well, OK, there is a difference between, I think, violence and abuse.

00:21:37.000 And common couple violence sort of illustrates this.

00:21:40.000 You have a couple that they're having a really hard time for whatever reason, and they are arguing, they're having conflict, And one of them will push, you know, push the other or slap or whatever, right?

00:21:53.000 And it's just out of frustration and stress.

00:21:57.000 And typically those cases, they're extremely minor incidents.

00:22:02.000 They don't tend to repeat once the stress is alleviated.

00:22:06.000 You know, you went in, you...

00:22:08.000 You did your consumer proposal and now you have a way out of those bills or whatever, you know, your mother-in-law goes away.

00:22:16.000 Once that stressor is gone, the incidents don't repeat.

00:22:20.000 It's just how humans are when they get really, really stressed out and they have conflict.

00:22:26.000 Sometimes they will engage in mild violence.

00:22:31.000 Those, I think, they need to be dealt with from a public health perspective.

00:22:36.000 rather than from a criminal perspective.

00:22:39.000 Because if you have a situation where a wife slaps her husband and then he pushes her back or pushes her out of the way to leave the house, he's probably going to be the one arrested and charged, right?

00:22:55.000 So even if he's just defending himself, if she has any marks on her, even if she doesn't have marks on her, and he does, he's probably going to be the one arrested because of the model of domestic violence that we use in our legislation and policy,

00:23:11.000 which is written by feminists and it's all based on There's patriarchal norms and the subordination of women and male dominance and all kinds of other BS that doesn't actually make any sense. 1.00

00:23:26.000 Sorry, we're still on terrestrial.

00:23:28.000 Let me go through really quickly because I don't want to get too off in the weeds.

00:23:31.000 As we go to the web extended version, we can spend as much time on those individual cases.

00:23:34.000 So let me just kind of go rapid fire with you real quick for people who don't really know.

00:23:39.000 So, like a common myth, and I just want you to say true or untrue, and then we'll sort of circle back.

00:23:39.000 Sure.

00:23:45.000 Men make more for the exact same job as a woman. 1.00

00:23:48.000 Oh, that's total BS. Okay.

00:23:51.000 Men are more likely to perpetuate, perpetrate, perpetuate, to perpetrate domestic violence. 0.80

00:23:58.000 No, women are. 1.00

00:24:00.000 That men tend to be the ones to commit sexual assault at a much higher rate toward women.

00:24:08.000 Not at a much higher rate.

00:24:11.000 It's a gender symmetry. 0.92

00:24:13.000 Well, that's one I was leading because I know if you take account actually the prison rapes, men are raped actually more frequently if you look at...

00:24:20.000 Well, those are all perpetrated by men.

00:24:23.000 They are perpetrated by men, but against men.

00:24:25.000 Yes, I don't like to categorize the rape that happens out in society.

00:24:31.000 It's a completely different thing from what happens in prisons.

00:24:35.000 In prisons, it's encouraged by staff.

00:24:39.000 Either way, somebody needs a salve.

00:24:41.000 So let's go on to that men tend to think of women as unintelligent, subservient, or second-class citizens to men.

00:24:52.000 Um, no.

00:24:53.000 I can't see that.

00:24:55.000 Well, I'm just trying to go through the things where everyone talks about it.

00:24:57.000 You know, right now we have this trend on Twitter where these are just things that people believe to be self-evident.

00:25:02.000 I remember watching something with you and, um, I can never say his name, Cenk, the Young Turks guy.

00:25:10.000 He sounds like every single Lebanese guy from Montreal who talks like this. 0.86

00:25:14.000 What's wrong with you, Karen?

00:25:16.000 We would have given you that one and then you come in and you talk like this.

00:25:18.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:25:19.000 Those guys like the Greeks and the Lebanese in Montreal, it's that sort of mix of the cadence and the French-Canadian and they put the cuss word at the end of their sentence. 0.55

00:25:27.000 Ooh, it makes me feel dirty.

00:25:30.000 And he was really mad that you talked about women having the right to vote.

00:25:33.000 So here's one that sort of I think is just a great – it's a golden calf that you're not allowed to attack.

00:25:38.000 Now, you talked about women who were polled in Europe when given the right to vote and most of them didn't want it.

00:25:44.000 Now, everyone goes, are you saying women didn't have the right to vote? 0.96

00:25:46.000 No, you were making the point.

00:25:47.000 Why did they not want the right to vote?

00:25:49.000 That's important because things came along with which men were burdened.

00:25:54.000 That women were not burdened, and they thought the vote came with those burdens, correct? 0.53

00:25:59.000 So I want you to clarify that.

00:26:00.000 They did, actually.

00:26:02.000 Even in 1917, the Supreme Court of the U.S. sort of codified it in legal precedent that the draft was connected to citizenship rights.

00:26:13.000 It was a required obligation on the part of citizens in return for the rights granted by government, which would include the right to vote.

00:26:22.000 But as well as that, there was civil conscription, which included things like posses and bucket brigades if you were ordered by a fire marshal, a duty to assist the police if required, if ordered to.

00:26:34.000 Going further back, there were things called hue and cry laws, which essentially male bystanders, adult male bystanders, Those standards could be held criminally culpable for not intervening if someone was being assaulted or robbed or whatever and was raising a hue and cry.

00:26:55.000 That was the series finale of Seinfeld.

00:26:57.000 There you go.

00:26:58.000 That used to be law.

00:27:00.000 It used to be law and now they're trying to bring it back.

00:27:03.000 So these were all duties of citizenship that men had.

00:27:09.000 Women never, I mean, women didn't even get drafted to pick up litter from the sides of highways for, you know, during wartime or if there was need or whatever. 0.94

00:27:20.000 They didn't have to do mandatory war work, nothing.

00:27:24.000 They got their vote for free.

00:27:25.000 Right.

00:27:26.000 And they maintained a lot of the female privileges that they were afraid that they would lose, like a husband's responsibility to financially provide for them and immunity from repayment of their own debts and things like that. 1.00

00:27:40.000 Well, that also is very tough for leftists to swallow because it flies in the face of, well, voting is just a birthright.

00:27:40.000 Exactly.

00:27:47.000 Well, it's actually really considered a privilege, especially when you're considering a representative republic.

00:27:51.000 And that's because you have the Bernie Sanders syndrome now where parasites will eventually devour their hosts if they can just vote in their own self-interest and not have any of the responsibilities.

00:28:00.000 It's great to just say, yeah, I want to vote for that so you can pass the bill to this guy.

00:28:04.000 And when there was a time where both women and men, and I think this is pivotal, this is just me interjecting, when both women and men felt responsible for themselves, women said, well, that's an additional responsibility that falls on me, not the taxpayer, not the men, and I don't know if I want to...

00:28:19.000 And what was the number of women? 1.00

00:28:20.000 Was it 70% were opposed to it?

00:28:22.000 It was a postcard poll, so I'm sure that they didn't have 100% response rate.

00:28:28.000 Only the people who really cared about the issue would probably have gone and...

00:28:34.000 I think it was John Stuart Mill who proposed it.

00:28:37.000 Okay.

00:28:38.000 But you had 70% of the women who cared enough one way or the other saying, "No, we don't want this," and 30% saying, "Yes, we want the vote." And so, you know, and part of me is like, what were these women stupid? 1.00

00:28:53.000 Didn't they realize that they would get the vote for free, like, without any simple obligation? 1.00

00:28:58.000 Like, what have they been smoking that they don't realize that they're going to just get it handed to them?

00:29:04.000 Yeah.

00:29:05.000 Well, Pod didn't have his high THC content back then, so we can rule that out.

00:29:09.000 It must have been something.

00:29:11.000 Maybe they had some shrooms going on.

00:29:12.000 I don't know.

00:29:14.000 I mean, they were teetotalers, so they probably weren't drinking.

00:29:18.000 I don't know.

00:29:19.000 I don't know.

00:29:20.000 Yeah, it's a good point, though.

00:29:21.000 And again, to clarify, making sure that people listening aren't appalled and have their little hate tweets ready, no one here is saying women didn't deserve the right to vote.

00:29:28.000 It's an interesting historical context as to why the women who were engaged in the political process did not want the right to vote.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, essentially it was pretty much the same afternoon that the majority of women decided that they wanted it, that they were granted the right to vote.

00:29:49.000 But, you know, what's the government supposed to do?

00:29:52.000 70% of women don't want this. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Yeah.

00:29:56.000 We're going to make them have it.

00:29:59.000 Without drafting them.

00:30:04.000 They would never have done that.

00:30:06.000 Well, we just had someone call in last week who was a sergeant in the Marines.

00:30:10.000 And I don't know if you saw the study that just came out.

00:30:12.000 all-male squads when compared to gender-integrated squads.

00:30:16.000 So not even all-male versus all-female outperformed women on every single task.

00:30:20.000 And there's a reason that actually – there's a reason men and women are segregated in prison.

00:30:23.000 There's a reason men and women are segregated with the Israeli Defense Forces, the IDF.

00:30:27.000 And this sergeant in the Marines who called in was very cute actually.

00:30:32.000 People immediately wanted to – they were like, she has a sexy voice right here on this. 0.99

00:30:35.000 Shame on you listeners.

00:30:36.000 She's a nice woman.

00:30:38.000 She said the big problem was that the men felt so responsible for the women.

00:30:42.000 It was distracting.

00:30:43.000 This whole myth of never leave a man behind.

00:30:45.000 Well, it's BS.

00:30:45.000 Sometimes you have to leave a man behind.

00:30:46.000 But none of the men in a squad would leave a woman behind.

00:30:49.000 No, they won't.

00:30:53.000 There's a thing that happens to men when men can operate very, very well in a group of only men.

00:31:00.000 And they hash out their pecking order and they...

00:31:05.000 Sort of deal with things in that way, in a reasonable fashion, and they get along.

00:31:11.000 They force themselves to get along, even if they don't like each other.

00:31:13.000 Or they fight it out, and then it's over after the fight.

00:31:15.000 Yeah, and then everybody's got renewed respect for even the guy who got pummeled, right?

00:31:20.000 You know, well, you stood up for yourself.

00:31:22.000 Good on you, kid.

00:31:24.000 You introduce a woman into that type of environment, especially a high-stress environment, where it's absolutely mandatory that people work together Yeah.

00:31:43.000 And it changes it entirely.

00:31:44.000 And, you know, that's one thing, too, with the whole the transgender and the don't ask, don't tell. 0.99

00:31:48.000 And now we have to all tell.

00:31:49.000 The military was a microcosm that was entirely free of politics or sort of cultural, I guess, movements at one point because you were supposed to be a number.

00:31:58.000 That's why you shaved your head.

00:31:58.000 That's why you came in.

00:31:59.000 You were a number because that was the job.

00:32:03.000 And that's changing now.

00:32:04.000 And having performed for the troops quite a bit, they talk about that.

00:32:07.000 We have to go and then we'll go to the web extended version, louderwithcrowder.com.

00:32:10.000 You'll see this on YouTube.

00:32:11.000 Girl Writes What, Karen Strawn. 0.72

00:32:13.000 Thank you and stay on.

00:32:14.000 Louder with Crowder.

00:32:15.000 I know you think this video is done, but if you click this box, you can actually go over to Karen's channel, Girl Writes What, where there is an extra hour of extended, uncensored interview where we talk about all things, not just feminism.

Louder with Crowder - September 26, 2015

#SJW Feminist Myths Destroyed by Karen Straughan | Louder With Crowder

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