On this week's episode of the Honorable 9-5, the boys are joined by Don Lemon and Christian Sodomite Don Lemon to talk about the NFL and the NFL playoffs. Plus, Ben Shapiro joins the show to make a case for why real estate prices are going up in America. And, of course, there's still time to catch up with the latest episode of Rise and Shine.
00:03:41.000Considering that we're going to be footing the bill for the defense.
00:03:44.000We're actually going to walk you through the history of Greenland a little bit and why this not really is 8D chess, but it's just a case as to, you know, it's ours now.
00:03:54.000Ben Shapiro, you know, he's been on the show.
00:04:54.000You see, his parents suffered from crippling debt and skyrocketing inflation, and they were never able to buy that nice new house on the east side.
00:05:01.000Their debt led to marital stress, culminating in a messy divorce, leaving Timmy to raise himself while mom was working three jobs.
00:05:08.000Let's see how the reunion actually went down.
00:05:15.000Give me your phone and your wallet, old man.
00:10:22.000She's not even wearing the appropriate boots.
00:10:24.000You think about SWAT teams, you think about sort of more modern, specialized gear with maybe some stretch.
00:10:30.000She's wearing overalls, which, by the way, guarantees that she will be less mobile because it's a one-piece and it's incredibly stiff.
00:10:38.000Then she decides she's going to wear a shoulder strap, which, you know, if you have a shoulder strap bag, the benefit there would be you can carry more gear, but instead decides to go with one the size of a fanny pack, which is actually usually that size because of its limitations.
00:10:51.000So she's getting the worst of all worlds.
00:10:53.000And then, of course, the Kefea or Poncho, whatever it is, it has tassels that are highly flammable, so they can just kind of catch the edge of it as they light her ablaze.
00:11:02.000Her hair not tied up, the goggles and mask too loose.
00:11:35.000Not to mention the fact that she's about 130 pounds, so she will be intimidating nobody and she'll be simply, she'll just be, she'll be slapped aside.
00:12:49.000I am on the lookout for somebody who right now, will I be able to call and say, hey, get in the passenger seat and let's go fuck some shit up.
00:12:59.000Because right now, in Minneapolis, what is happening are we are being occupied by ICE agents who are, of course, I couldn't do that.
00:13:34.000So, if that's you, if you're interested in some shit up, if you're not afraid of a woman who can speak her mind, sitting in a side seat, message me.
00:14:28.000It's everything to do with the fact that you're preparing for some kind of war that you that doesn't exist.
00:14:36.000Just try and explain to anyone throughout all of human history that this white woman in 2026 feels as though she's somehow persecuted or standing up for people who are persecuted who in no way are represented by her.
00:14:52.000This is what happens when you have a society that has it so good in a particular subset of people, white suburban women in the United States in 2026.
00:15:05.000I don't think there's ever been, you guys comment, has there ever been a more privileged group that has felt more aggrieved to use a term, which I probably am using improperly because today I can't find my words.
00:16:21.000There's a reason that the Prep Pill commercials entirely include gay men who very much look like Don Lemon, but he's going to tell you how to be a good Christian.
00:16:31.000So, you know, you have people like Thomas Aquinas, you have Martin Luther, and now you can include in their ranks noted Christian theologian sodomite Don Lemon.
00:16:51.000So just to set the stage, it looks like Don Lamone might actually catch some charges for what he did because it veered away from journalism into not just activism, but into riots, into protests.
00:17:04.000into violating other people's foundational First Amendment rights to practice their religion, to freely worship.
00:17:12.000I think he'll probably skate on it, but I'm also glad that he's being made an example of.
00:17:18.000Before we get to that, for those of you who missed yesterday, Don Lemon has very strong views on what Christianity is and what it isn't as a noted Christian theologian sodomite.
00:17:31.000Jesus Christ, if you believe in, if that's who you believe in, Jesus Christ, admittedly was not perfect when he was here on this earth.
00:17:39.000So why are we deifying the founders of this country?
00:17:42.000Maybe Joseph was, you know, this sort of gay guy who said, this woman, you might pick yourself up off the floor.
00:18:03.000God is not about hindering people or even judging people.
00:18:06.000One thing that would really, I believe, change America is if we realize that people, that Jesus probably looked more like Qasum than like any of us here, and that we had to get rid of this sort of white surfer guy and really have a truer depiction of what Jesus is for Christians.
00:18:26.000And that way, I think it would be kind of country altering, if not world-altering, because you even had that in, you know, if you go to Europe, if you go to Italy, you go to the Vatican or whatever, you know, Jesus is like a surfer-white guy.
00:18:40.000So the reason that I'm showing this to you is because remember, Don Lemon yesterday, or he was saying, well, I am a Christian.
00:18:47.000And so, and then he tries to tell you how to be a Christian.
00:19:01.000They don't care about the foundational principles, values of our faith, of Christianity, because according to Don Lemon, he's a Christian, but Jesus wasn't perfect.
00:19:30.000It's a pretty important fact that Jesus was raised by a gay stepfather.
00:19:33.000Anyone want to sit in the pew at the church of Don Lemon?
00:19:38.000Because he's going to let you know that, hey, look, I'm actually a better example of what a Christian is than these people in this church who support deporting illegal aliens.
00:19:46.000Take it from me, noted Christian theologian sodomite Don Lemon, who thinks that Jesus was imperfect.
00:19:58.000And if that's not enough for you, just yesterday, after he was making the case that he was a Christian and he was doing this right as a sort of thinly veiled defense against breaking the law, he then went on a live stream and did a live ad read for the Freedom from Religion Foundation.
00:20:17.000This episode of the Don Lemon Show is brought to you by the Freedom from Religion Foundation.
00:20:22.000Equality under the law only works when the government stays neutral.
00:20:26.000The First Amendment wasn't written to protect one religion.
00:20:31.000And right now, that promise is under threat from Christian nationalists who believe their beliefs should control everyone else's beliefs and everyone else's lives.
00:20:48.000But you do understand that at that point in time, they probably didn't have a chip in their brain for a religion like Islam getting a foothold here.
00:20:56.000This was largely about the separation of church and state for people who misquote the Constitution.
00:21:02.000Protection from the Church of England, that you'll be free to practice your largely Protestant denomination in this country.
00:21:09.000If I'm being honest, I think the Founding Fathers, they probably wouldn't have had a problem with things like Buddhism or Baha'i churches, the stuff that doesn't matter.
00:21:18.000They'd be like, so you basically, okay, so you just kind of sit there and you don't believe in heaven or hell and you do your own.
00:22:19.000Don Lemon claimed that the Minnesota churchgoers he was assisting in harassing.
00:22:25.000Well, the real reason for it and the reason he's in the right is because they were privileged white supremacists.
00:22:31.000And there's a certain degree of entitlement.
00:22:33.000I think people who are, you know, in religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that entitlement of supremacy.
00:22:43.000She looks like a medium who even ghosts for them that it is a Christian country when actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom.
00:22:50.000It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much.
00:28:00.000The difference is she's not saying that she is a pastor.
00:28:03.000And I don't think she's an ambassador for Christianity, but she's allowed to espouse her opinion because she's not positioning herself in a role of leadership.
00:28:10.000She's now talking about how she grew up attending church three days a week growing up.
00:28:38.000Tied pants and a weak glow Trying to preach, but he reading from a talk show Facts all wobbly, stuntin' for the B-roll You ain't Peter, you ain't Paul Churchill, then blame the Christians Sunday service, family's mini prayer.
00:29:28.000Which brings us to, hey, our charge is coming.
00:29:31.000By the way, all signs point to yes, to be clear.
00:29:34.000And the best way to stay in touch, like I've told you, download the Rumble app, follow me there, because there's no way that this stuff is going to be airing on YouTube.
00:29:40.000So after what happened at the church on Sunday in Minnesota, Assistant AG Harmett Dillon made it pretty clear that the DOJ is going to be pursuing, and not just Don Lemon, but the people who organized the storming of the church with really the full weight of the law.
00:29:59.000This is going to get the highest attention from the Department of Justice because there is no more sacred right in our Constitution than the right to assemble and pray to God.
00:30:09.000And there are federal laws that protect that right.
00:30:12.000And what happened here was a shameful exercise of virtue signaling, disruption, fear, terror.
00:30:19.000And I want to add before people start spazzing about the First Amendment that the Biden administration prosecuted people peacefully praying outside abortion clinics for much, much less, prosecuted them, prosecuted them under conspiracy statutes under the Klan Act, which I also have jurisdiction over at the DOJ.
00:30:40.000And so the people who did this made a big, big mistake, whoever they are.
00:30:44.000This will be met with the full force of the United States Department of Justice, as the Attorney General has directed.
00:33:44.000Yeah, but did you become an active participant when you grilled the pastor and you took part in the protest when you knew that they were going in to disrupt people who were peacefully assembled to worship?
00:33:58.000I think a case can be made, but I think that there are a lot of protections for journalists.
00:34:02.000And so this may be one that they don't make stick, but I hope that they do.
00:34:05.000I don't think you can, I don't think you can tell, I don't think you can be told to leave as a journalist and then refuse.
00:34:13.000I don't think private property, that exactly what happened.
00:35:15.000By the way, they're also going to be looking at charges under both the FACE Act, like we discussed, and the Klan Act or the Enforcement Act of 1871.
00:35:41.000This show to me feels like that level in Donkey Kong country when you're on the rail carts and you have to keep jumping.
00:35:48.000So, what the assistant AG was referring to, and just to be clear, we're pretty consistent as conservatives.
00:35:54.000So, when these people were, by the way, they were arrested or they were cited because they were obstructing other people going into an abortion clinic.
00:36:54.000You know, Keith Ellison, he said, and this is one of those things where he just says something that's so factually off the beam where I thought, well, maybe, maybe, hold on a second, maybe I'm misremembering the FACE Act.
00:37:04.000No, it turns out this guy's full of crap.
00:37:10.000And the FACE Act, by the way, is designed to protect the rights of people seeking their reproductive rights to be protected.
00:37:20.000And so that people, for a religious reason, you know, cannot just use religion to break into women's reproductive health centers, right?
00:37:30.000So, how they are stretching either of these laws to apply to people who protested in a church over the behavior or the perceived behavior of a religious leader is beyond me.
00:37:43.000I think he's thinking of the Face Your Creator for Judgment Act.
00:37:50.000He is face yourself in the mirror and not cry act.
00:37:52.000And that's something, by the way, that we just sort of skim over.
00:37:56.000If we believe that every life is fearfully, wonderfully created, and we understand that the science says that DNA is unique.
00:38:02.000It's not the mother's DNA, it's not the father's DNA.
00:38:03.000And if we also understand that there's 10 to 15,000 late-term abortions going on every year, that's a scary thought that those women are going to have to face their creator and account for that.
00:38:18.000There's a comedian out there who I can't remember who it was, but they said, Do you think that somebody who has, if they had multiple abortions, you'd think they go to heaven and all those babies are waiting for them?
00:38:50.000The FACE Act makes it pretty clear that prosecutors can criminally charge anyone who, quote, by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction intimidates or interferes with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship.
00:39:33.000And the KKK Act or the Klein Act, some people refer to it, by the way, that can actually be used whenever someone conspires to violate people's civil rights.
00:40:57.000And, you know, we always want to try and be tactful in approaching this because I think Ben Shapiro is right about a lot.
00:41:04.000And I think he's been wrong about an increasing amount as of late.
00:41:10.000And right now, when there's a civil sort of, I don't even want to say civil war, but there are these fractions on the right and there's sort of these clicks being created.
00:41:19.000You have one side saying, hey, it's really important to be consistent about our principles.
00:41:49.000My next question is: when President Trump is saying that there will be legislation that will bar institutional investors from purchasing single-family homes in this country, what do you think that's meant to address?
00:42:07.000Ben Shapiro on Gavin Newsom's podcast said, you're talking about rent prices, right?
00:42:13.000I don't think that that's being particularly straightforward or honest.
00:42:17.000And that's why when we've addressed this, I offered a six-point prescription on how I genuinely believe we could lower housing prices in this country.
00:42:28.000Six-point plan, okay, just to make sure there's no misinterpretation.
00:42:33.000Ban of purchases from institutional investors or foreign investors on single-family home units.
00:42:39.000Only citizens, local permanent residents, can buy homes with very strict verification, severe penalties for anyone housing, renting to, or selling homes to illegal aliens, along with increased deportations, an immigrant, legal immigrant renting period for the first two years of residency, incentivize starter homes on the builder's side with tax breaks, tax credits, and then incentivize first-time homebuyers with a tax deduction for that first year.
00:43:04.000And I think this is important where we'll often discuss what conservatism, what put America first means.
00:43:12.000I certainly think that that means the government should act in the best interests of its people, provided they are not violating any fundamental constitutional rights.
00:43:23.000And when you take into account that in 1991, for example, the median age for first-time homebuyers was 28 years old.
00:43:53.000And then you have to ask yourself: is it good for the country when there are people who are here illegally who have no business being in this country?
00:44:00.000Are homeowners in the place of young working Americans?
00:44:04.000That brings us to Ben Shapiro talking with Gavin Newsom, making this claim when the jumping off point was Donald Trump's policy on institutional investors purchasing up single-family unit homes.
00:44:18.000Okay, the fact is that in the state of California, for example, exorbitantly low percentage of relative to other states.
00:44:24.000Yeah, relative to other states for sure.
00:44:29.000And meanwhile, if you go over to Charlotte, North Carolina, where the real estate prices actually have been diving, you actually do have pretty significant corporate ownership.
00:44:36.000And here we're talking about large corporations, not like small mom and pop operations where you own a second home to rent it out.
00:44:41.000Typically speaking, when a corporation invests in an area, like say Phoenix and then builds up an enormous number of rental units, because that's what happens.
00:44:48.000They buy, let's say, a single-family home.
00:44:51.000So they just increased the stock of rent, right?
00:44:54.000Which means that the rental prices go down.
00:44:56.000And then corporations typically are investing in areas where it's easier to buy and easier to renovate and easier to build.
00:45:02.000Like renovating is very difficult in places like New York and in certain parts of California.
00:45:05.000It's a lot easier in, say, Austin or Phoenix or Florida.
00:45:08.000And so what you've seen is actually there is not only zero correlation between corporate ownership of real estate assets and price of rent, for example.
00:45:17.000In many cases, there's a reverse correlation.
00:45:19.000And so trying to refocus on, look at this terrible, it isn't BlackRock.
00:45:24.000BlackRock doesn't own real estate assets in this fashion.
00:45:27.000But if you're looking at Blackstone, it's Blackstone's fault that the real estate prices are going up.
00:46:15.000That's not the crisis that we're addressing.
00:46:17.000And by the way, yes, part of this crisis has been created by the government.
00:46:21.000It would be like someone taking you out on a boat, you falling off the boat, drowning, and then throwing you a motorcycle when you need a life preserver.
00:46:30.000Yeah, the housing market was screwed up.
00:47:21.000No one thinks single-family home and thinks an apartment.
00:47:24.000And this is also why, by the way, Ben Shapiro has been invited on the show, and I think he's pretty respectful.
00:47:29.000And I think we could have a good conversation.
00:47:31.000But when people say, I can't believe that you would platform insert X person here, let's say Nick Fuentes.
00:47:35.000I go, well, he's sitting next to Gavin Newsom.
00:47:39.000Does anyone want to make the case that Nick Fuentes is more dangerous and more corrosive to the American fabric than that guy running for president who wanted to trans kids and accuse you of hate speech if you spoke out against it?
00:47:49.000That's why I'm not going to play that game.
00:49:10.000I would argue that anyone making the case for large institutional investors because it's easier for you to rent, even though purchasing a home is further from reach than ever before.
00:49:24.000I don't think that that's actually something.
00:49:25.000Not only do I think optically, not only do I think that it won't resonate, I actually think it's immoral because that's not the result of the free market, to be clear.
00:50:02.000Maybe someone can present this case, man.
00:50:03.000I don't know if this is a someone thinks that it's a Milton Friedman free market argument.
00:50:06.000Like, yeah, yeah, no, no, actually, conservatism should really support the institutional investors pricing people out of their neighborhoods so that we can create a permanent class of renters.
00:50:14.000I can only imagine making this case if you think it's beneficial to the American fabric at large to have a permanent class of renters.
00:50:48.000That's why I am against Donald Trump's policy because rent is cheaper.
00:50:53.000I go, okay, more institutional investors.
00:50:55.000Rent is slightly cheaper and home prices are astronomically inflated.
00:51:04.000What bothers me is when you have people from that side of the conservative aisle saying that we're abandoning our principles, our free market principles of we're saying, no, this is a manipulated market.
00:51:15.000And it's a manipulated market to benefit institutional investors, by the way, who are not beholden to the American people at all, but international coalitions often at the cost of Americans.
00:51:26.000How is that looking out for our people?
00:51:28.000Important to note that Charlotte and Phoenix are both cities with high populations of migrant influx.
00:51:37.000Very high, one from Latin America, one from overseas.
00:51:41.000Which is why part of my multi-point plan is that you cannot purchase a home if you are here illegally.
00:51:45.000As a matter of fact, you're not allowed to stay in a home if you are here illegally.
00:51:48.000That should go to an American homeowner.
00:51:51.000Why do you think Ben is, and I have a theory on this, but it's such a, it seems like he has such a worship of free markets that he's blind to the realities that those free markets cause.
00:52:27.000And the free market, when we generally think of it, especially when you go back to someone like Adam Smith and the invisible hand that determines markets, right, supply and demand, ultimately that is predicated around the idea of a goods or service creator provider and a consumer.
00:52:42.000When you add international speculative markets where people are actually looking to squeeze out profit that does not benefit the consumer, we now have a different motive than creating the best product in a competitive market for consumers who can vote with their dollar.
00:52:58.000And then when you add more complications to it, for example, like the housing market, where banks are forced to take on risk, as we've seen for a very long time, to people who had no business being in those homes who would never be able to pay it back.
00:53:09.000But hey, that money is insured by you, the taxpayer.
00:54:16.000From 2020 to 2025, $122,000 would need to be the median income to match up with the average home in the Phoenix area.
00:54:30.000I don't think we're going to get anywhere by saying, you know what, these populists, they actually don't have a point.
00:54:35.000And you also need to look at that acceleration.
00:54:37.000How is that free market where you see a graph that goes up and then spikes up because of an artificially engineered, manipulated picking winners and losers market post-COVID?
00:54:51.000In 15 years, that median income required went up about $21,000.
00:56:03.000What do you think happens to the costs of those remaining two properties that are not rent controlled?
00:56:08.000So this is how the left, yeah, they benefit those who don't contribute, those who are in subsidized housing, those who lock down an apartment, and they're fine living with rats.
00:56:15.000But if you're working hard and you want to pay for a semi-decent apartment, guess what?
00:56:19.000That's completely out of reach as the result of these policies to correct waste privilege.
00:56:23.000Isn't rent control a rent freeze anyway?
00:58:32.000You've been through enough, but we're going to put you through more.
00:58:34.000So before we get into the ins and outs of Greenland, I think a lot of people may not be familiar with the history there, which is why they always try and paint the United States as, for some reason, unique in wanting to position ourselves as best as possible globally.
00:58:48.000Here's some memes that President Trump dropped last night on Truth Social.
00:59:03.000Now, the media and, of course, leftists that have you believe that the United States is this imperialist nation and that this is something that is unique to us at this point in time.
00:59:20.000Well, this person is going viral for the first time in the history of ever on social media for her comments about the United States like we care.
01:03:01.000And to be fair, if he came across him, it probably didn't go well because his dad got kicked out of Norway for killing somebody, and then he got kicked out of Iceland for killing multiple people.
01:04:29.000I know you don't often think when you think of colonizers, you may think of the British, you may think of the French, you may think of the Portuguese, the Spanish.
01:04:36.000In some cases, actually, the Belgians were really bad.
01:04:40.000You may want to look into the history of Denmark and Greenland a little bit before you start shouting foul at the United States.
01:04:46.000And by the way, we're going to continue with this.