Louder with Crowder - SUPER EPISODE: Guests Alex Jones on CIA & Silenced Journalist Paulo Figueiredo on Brazil vs. Elon

00:00:00.000 And I just, I don't, I don't know if the United States has a moral high ground.

00:00:03.000 That's my question for you today.

00:00:04.000 Does the United States have the moral high ground like we used to when you see what we're doing here?

00:00:08.000 I think it's the greatest country in the world, but we might have missed a step.

00:00:11.000 So we'll be talking about that if at any point today, I would imagine this could happen.

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00:00:34.000 Replacing Captain Morgan, CEO, because he just had a child.

00:00:37.000 He's not with child anymore, is in second chair, Mr. Do we have his?

00:00:44.000 All right.

00:00:45.000 April 16th, he's going to be at the Addison Improv in Texas.

00:00:48.000 Jay Firestein for the other dates.

00:00:50.000 One of my favorite clubs in the country.

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00:00:52.000 How are you doing, Josh?

00:00:52.000 Good people there.

00:00:53.000 Good.

00:00:53.000 I'm excited to be there.

00:00:55.000 Smooth as a baby's bottom. 0.98

00:00:56.000 Yes, my face is naked. 0.57

00:01:00.000 I feel like a woman without makeup and fake eyelashes and lip filler. 0.83

00:01:05.000 You're a woman without those things, or you're a woman with those things? 0.99

00:01:07.000 I never feel like a woman, actually.

00:01:09.000 I want to take that back.

00:01:10.000 Yeah.

00:01:11.000 Shania Twain feels like a woman when she wears men's shirts. 0.92

00:01:14.000 I never understood that song.

00:01:15.000 She does wear men's shirts.

00:01:16.000 Why is that in the lyrics?

00:01:18.000 Short skirts, men's shirts.

00:01:19.000 I'm like, well, huh.

00:01:20.000 This is a song about being a woman.

00:01:21.000 She's trying to convince us.

00:01:22.000 I'm not convinced.

00:01:22.000 I don't know.

00:01:23.000 It wouldn't be my go-to.

00:01:24.000 Canadians are tricky.

00:01:25.000 Or to say, I feel like a man, and then say, satin panties.

00:01:30.000 In third chair, you can watch him here on Mug Club, 5 p.m.

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00:01:34.000 He's going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey, May 11th.

00:01:37.000 The funniest man alive.

00:01:39.000 You can see all his dates at nickdip.com.

00:01:41.000 Mr. DiPaolo, how are you?

00:01:42.000 Very good, sir.

00:01:43.000 How are you?

00:01:44.000 I'd like to take that shirt off, Shania. 0.92

00:01:45.000 Hey, now.

00:01:46.000 I could feel like a woman again, you know what I'm saying?

00:01:49.000 I'd like to switch up your wardrobe, because you're a full Canadian tuxedo today.

00:01:51.000 Well, for Christ's sake, I'm sitting down.

00:01:53.000 Oh, you can see my jeans.

00:01:54.000 I know, I know. 0.99

00:01:55.000 Goddammit. 0.99

00:01:57.000 I thought it would be the shot from here up. 1.00

00:01:59.000 I know, I get hit on by two gay guys at a bus stop on the way here. 0.99

00:02:02.000 Yeah, well that was also the leather hat. 0.97

00:02:03.000 Didn't help.

00:02:04.000 All from Vancouver.

00:02:08.000 Alright, so Alex Jones and Paulo Figueiredo, which by the way is like John Smith in Brazil.

00:02:13.000 Apollo, very common name.

00:02:14.000 Figurado.

00:02:15.000 I know Silva.

00:02:15.000 I know like 15 Silvas.

00:02:17.000 I know every fighter in the UFC.

00:02:19.000 When you're watching early prelims, prelims, there's at least 11 Silvas. 1.00

00:02:23.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of Silvas. 1.00

00:02:24.000 Quite a few figurados, but a lot of Silvas.

00:02:26.000 Before we get to that, this is the... Okay.

00:02:31.000 Look, look, there are differences of- ♪♪

00:02:56.000 And you're gonna say, that's harsh.

00:02:57.000 You're going to see.

00:02:59.000 No, it's not. 1.00

00:02:59.000 Harsh, my ass. 1.00

00:03:01.000 You're understatement. 1.00

00:03:02.000 Sheila Jackson Lee, Democratic Congresswoman, she told school children, and here's the thing, there are multiple failure points when she describes the moon to children that she didn't need to insert, but she chose to.

00:03:16.000 Everything is wrong.

00:03:18.000 And it's not a misspeak.

00:03:20.000 It's ongoing.

00:03:21.000 Sometimes you've heard the word full moon.

00:03:25.000 Sometimes you need to take the opportunity just to come out and see a full moon is that complete rounded circle which is made up mostly of gases.

00:03:34.000 Yay for affirmative answers.

00:03:36.000 The question is why or how could we as humans live on the moon?

00:03:41.000 That's made of gas.

00:03:42.000 Gas is such that we could do that.

00:03:45.000 the sun is a mighty powerfull...

00:03:47.000 oh my god it's almost impossible

00:03:50.000 almost to go near the sun

00:03:53.000 almost the moon is more manageable

00:03:55.000 yes because it's gas and you will see in a moment

00:03:58.000 or not a moment you will see in a couple of years

00:04:01.000 that NASA is going back to the moon they're going back to the moon

00:04:06.000 but right now it's got a rocket in its eye I've seen it

00:04:11.000 it's hard to get It's almost difficult to get too close to the sun.

00:04:16.000 No, no, no, Sheila Jackson Lee.

00:04:17.000 If you get within three miles of the sun, this happens.

00:04:31.000 She just went out there and said, you know what, let me create an entire backstory and describe that which the moon is not.

00:04:39.000 It's almost as though that was her mission.

00:04:40.000 It's made of gas, which is going to be hard for us to walk on it.

00:04:45.000 We can do it, but we've got to figure it out.

00:04:48.000 And then the sun is almost as hot as the moon.

00:04:52.000 We can now officially confirm that the moon is not made of cheese.

00:04:56.000 It's not made of cheese.

00:04:58.000 The worst part is the guy behind him.

00:05:00.000 Let's watch this again.

00:05:01.000 He's like, yes, made of gas.

00:05:03.000 Learn something new every day.

00:05:04.000 I thought he was going to smack her.

00:05:05.000 Love is a circle.

00:05:06.000 Watch Sometimes you need to take the opportunity just to come out

00:05:10.000 and see a full moon is that complete rounded circle Which is made up mostly of gases love is a circle now. That's

00:05:17.000 short The question is why or how could we as humans live on the

00:05:23.000 moon?

00:05:23.000 Are the gases such that we could do that?

00:05:26.000 Is a mighty powerful heat Yes, it is

00:05:33.000 Finally something we can all be on board with sun's hot my brother has down syndrome and even on a nice hot day in

00:05:38.000 Vegas where he lives he's like

00:05:41.000 No, go outside.

00:05:42.000 Too hot.

00:05:43.000 Sun is hot.

00:05:43.000 Too hot.

00:05:44.000 And I'm like, yeah, you fucking nailed it. 0.99

00:05:46.000 The sun is hot. 0.99

00:05:47.000 She did her scientific research from Smash Mouth.

00:05:52.000 And here's the scary part.

00:05:53.000 I don't know if you know, Jackson Lee is a congresswoman from Houston. 0.97

00:05:58.000 Where, um, I don't know if you know who resides in Houston.

00:06:00.000 NASA! 0.84

00:06:01.000 NASA is in Houston, and many of them will vote for her. 0.99

00:06:08.000 Good points she made.

00:06:09.000 It's not inconsequential.

00:06:11.000 And I've got to imagine that some won't because she's caused problems for them.

00:06:16.000 Houston, we have a problem.

00:06:18.000 Question is why. How could we as humans live on the moon?

00:06:22.000 Well, that explains it.

00:06:26.000 If you see him at a gasoline station on the moon, get in their faces.

00:06:32.000 I've been to the moon. 0.98

00:06:33.000 There's like a million sickos.

00:06:36.000 Exxon!

00:06:38.000 Quick Drew! 0.98

00:06:40.000 What?

00:06:41.000 It's made of gas and it's like it's just no one around her.

00:06:44.000 This is someone I've talked about this before. 0.98

00:06:46.000 There aren't enough people around her going, you should shut up. 0.98

00:06:50.000 I don't believe in white supremacy. 0.99

00:06:51.000 She makes it very hard.

00:06:55.000 Statements like that.

00:06:56.000 And who is it?

00:06:57.000 Maxine Waters?

00:06:58.000 They're the same person.

00:06:58.000 Is that her name?

00:06:59.000 James Brown.

00:07:00.000 Yes, they're the same person. 1.00

00:07:01.000 Fucking stupid. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Yeah, oh my God. 1.00

00:07:05.000 Moon is made of gas and we're going to figure it out.

00:07:07.000 I mean, it's not without its challenges to live on a ball of gas.

00:07:10.000 It's almost like we fall through.

00:07:14.000 Such a racist country.

00:07:15.000 She's a powerful woman. 1.00

00:07:17.000 You've got to be dog-styling me. 0.98

00:07:19.000 Such a racist country.

00:07:20.000 She represents the workers of NASA.

00:07:25.000 It just kept getting worse.

00:07:29.000 No, no, okay, it's a misspeak, it's made of gas.

00:07:33.000 Then she went on to, but we're still going, that's why it's almost hard to find out how we can live on it.

00:07:37.000 I'm like, oh, this is not going to get better.

00:07:40.000 Let's put her in charge of that project. 1.00

00:07:42.000 Yes, put her to sleep. 0.97

00:07:44.000 The sun is a mighty heat.

00:07:46.000 It's a mighty heat.

00:07:48.000 It's like she was describing wings.

00:07:52.000 Wild Wings has a mighty heat.

00:07:56.000 It's hot.

00:07:57.000 It's hot as an Asian thing. 1.00

00:07:58.000 Not quite blazing.

00:08:03.000 But it's up there!

00:08:06.000 I get that it's funny, but it's also terrifying.

00:08:08.000 It is terrifying.

00:08:09.000 It really is scary.

00:08:11.000 And you can hit the like button, of course, if you're watching on YouTube, wherever you are, because the algorithm does not want you to see the Brazilian journalist we're going to have on, Paulo Figueiredo or Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 We're going to be talking with them quite a bit today.

00:08:23.000 All right.

00:08:24.000 Have you been following the Alex Jones saga?

00:08:25.000 I don't know if you guys have been.

00:08:26.000 I did.

00:08:27.000 You sent me stuff to read last night, so I'm following.

00:08:30.000 He's a hero.

00:08:31.000 He's an absolute hero, an American treasure. 0.97

00:08:34.000 I know I don't know him that well, but god damn it. 0.94

00:08:36.000 He's the OG, really. 0.95

00:08:38.000 So there was an undercover report, sound investigations.

00:08:41.000 Go and show them some love.

00:08:43.000 They're doing some great work.

00:08:44.000 Is that your guys?

00:08:46.000 No, they're not our guys.

00:08:47.000 We've worked with them, but they had their hands on this.

00:08:50.000 This is beautiful.

00:08:51.000 Good stuff.

00:08:51.000 The CIA contracting officer, I want to make sure I get these names right, Gavin Oblenis, actually on camera, talked about how the agency operates and how it takes down voices that they don't like.

00:09:03.000 And he basically talked about how they use these tactics against Alex Jones, the goal was to bankrupt him, and they just sort of get some people to do their bidding.

00:09:13.000 And I know that people have said this before, and it's easy to put some distance between yourself and someone like Alex because he's a character, and he's incredibly passionate, and sometimes he gets some things wrong, but he's out there taking the hits.

00:09:27.000 And they can do this to anyone.

00:09:29.000 If they can do this to Alex Jones, if in Brazil they can do it to Figueredo, of course.

00:09:34.000 Not only can they do it to you, they are doing it to many of you.

00:09:36.000 Here's the other side of it.

00:09:38.000 Alex Jones does have a platform, so he's one of the people you know about.

00:09:42.000 You don't know about the guy who's an accountant.

00:09:45.000 Where these tactics are used against them.

00:09:46.000 They're not a public figure.

00:09:46.000 Why?

00:09:47.000 It happens all the time.

00:09:49.000 Here's proof.

00:09:50.000 This is the CIA.

00:09:51.000 I want to make sure I have his title right, because they could sue for that.

00:09:54.000 Contracting officer Gavin Oblenus on Alex Jones.

00:09:57.000 He's terrific, this guy.

00:09:58.000 So they can entrap some of these pro-lifers into doing things that they don't do.

00:10:01.000 Depending.

00:10:02.000 Yeah.

00:10:03.000 We call it a nudge.

00:10:05.000 A nudge.

00:10:06.000 Who would be like a big influence that you're... Influencer that you're after?

00:10:10.000 You.

00:10:10.000 Like a... I don't know, like a...

00:10:14.000 I don't even know these names.

00:10:15.000 Like a Fox News person, or like a Tucker Carlson, or like... Oh, I'm sure he's in there.

00:10:20.000 Right.

00:10:21.000 You always want the biggest and loudest.

00:10:24.000 Like that, what was his name?

00:10:25.000 The one that said the Sandy Hook didn't happen.

00:10:28.000 Alex Jones.

00:10:30.000 So, we were after him.

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.000 You are?

00:10:33.000 Are you still after him?

00:10:34.000 Because he's broke.

00:10:34.000 Why?

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:36.000 He got found guilty.

00:10:38.000 And had to pay like a hundred million dollars.

00:10:40.000 So why are we after him?

00:10:41.000 We're not anymore.

00:10:43.000 Just to get the money from him?

00:10:44.000 Yeah.

00:10:44.000 So with Alex Jones, you were watching him long before anything ended up happening?

00:10:50.000 Probably.

00:10:50.000 It wasn't my office, but I mean, we would have been well aware of what he was doing.

00:10:55.000 And the goal with him was what?

00:10:56.000 Just to bankrupt him?

00:10:57.000 Oh, pretty much.

00:10:59.000 And we let the families do it.

00:11:01.000 What?

00:11:01.000 We let the families do it.

00:11:02.000 Were they encouraged to do that by the Bureau?

00:11:04.000 Like nudged?

00:11:05.000 We don't encourage people.

00:11:08.000 We just say, there's no federal statute being broken.

00:11:13.000 But you do have the option for a civil, for a civil case.

00:11:17.000 And it's a pretty good case.

00:11:20.000 Nice.

00:11:20.000 It's our opinion.

00:11:22.000 Oh, that makes so much sense.

00:11:25.000 I have a cousin who's a lawyer.

00:11:26.000 So that's a lot of these cases.

00:11:28.000 They're kind of encouraged by the FBI?

00:11:30.000 Yeah, like, there's nothing federally, federal law, we can do.

00:11:33.000 But civilly?

00:11:36.000 Just go at them that way. 0.99

00:11:38.000 Chop his legs off. 0.98

00:11:39.000 And they did? 0.81

00:11:40.000 So the FBI was happy?

00:11:40.000 Yeah.

00:11:42.000 They didn't care.

00:11:43.000 We were like, awww.

00:11:46.000 Basically, the citizens did your job.

00:11:49.000 So you can encourage a civil lawsuit?

00:11:52.000 Not encourage, but you can.

00:11:53.000 What can you do with people like Alex Jones now?

00:11:55.000 Is he still out there?

00:11:57.000 He's still chirping.

00:11:58.000 He can chirp.

00:11:59.000 Are you still watching him?

00:12:00.000 Yeah.

00:12:01.000 Why?

00:12:02.000 He did what we wanted.

00:12:04.000 Which was what?

00:12:05.000 He took his money away.

00:12:07.000 We shut him up for a while.

00:12:08.000 You're never going to shut him up again.

00:12:11.000 Unless you put him in prison.

00:12:12.000 But again, he didn't do anything to go to prison. 0.88

00:12:16.000 Being ignorant is not a crime, though it should be.

00:12:20.000 I mean, you could bring a nudge. 0.98

00:12:23.000 He did inside a riot, like Cheeto.

00:12:26.000 I thought you said that there were FBI agents in the crowd at J6.

00:12:29.000 There always are when there's a big protest in D.C.

00:12:32.000 Just in case it gets out of hand.

00:12:34.000 But there wasn't enough to turn that tide.

00:12:37.000 I mean, I'm talking they maybe had 20.

00:12:40.000 You needed 1,000 to get rid of that crowd.

00:12:45.000 So there was just 20?

00:12:46.000 Yeah, just to go through and see what they could hear.

00:12:48.000 You know, that kind of thing.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:12:52.000 They needed a thousand leafs.

00:12:54.000 That's also Capital Police jurisdiction.

00:12:57.000 They're in charge.

00:13:00.000 Why they didn't have more on hand, I don't know.

00:13:03.000 The Bureau didn't really want people knowing that they were in the crowd.

00:13:07.000 That would be overstepping their bounds.

00:13:09.000 A little bit.

00:13:11.000 Do people know that?

00:13:12.000 Why?

00:13:13.000 Did people know that the Bureau was in the crowd?

00:13:16.000 Nope, and probably never will.

00:13:19.000 You know agents that were there?

00:13:21.000 Really?

00:13:24.000 They probably never will.

00:13:25.000 New rules!

00:13:29.000 Everyone knows.

00:13:30.000 He thought that because, of course, they deplatform and arrest people who insinuate that there were agents in the crowd.

00:13:35.000 We've had episodes removed here on this channel.

00:13:38.000 So what they do is they remove people who actually point out the truth, admit behind closed doors, well, yeah, that's the truth.

00:13:44.000 We just remove them, though.

00:13:46.000 There's no crime here.

00:13:47.000 It's just, oh, we'll have people go after him civilly.

00:13:49.000 Think about that.

00:13:49.000 And he also said the exact same things that we have been saying as far as it was under the Capitol Police jurisdiction.

00:13:55.000 And Nancy Pelosi refused to send more Capitol Police when they were requested. 0.99

00:13:58.000 Everything we have been talking about is confirmed here.

00:14:02.000 And that's why they targeted Alex Jones.

00:14:04.000 That's why we have been targeted here.

00:14:07.000 That's why you have governments, for example, in Brazil removing creators.

00:14:10.000 Rumble is no longer available in Brazil as they fight this legally right now and they take it up I don't know where they're going to take it, because it's a corrupt court, but we'll figure it out.

00:14:19.000 If you want to see the whole clip, go follow, actually, Sound Investigations, on X, at Sound Invest, sorry, Sound Investig, I believe is their handle.

00:14:27.000 We'll bring it up here for you guys, and we'll have links in the description.

00:14:31.000 I think the full video is eight plus minutes, and I'm just getting word right now, I just heard this from Mission Control, that, I want to say Dennis Oblenus, Gavin Oblenus, Oblenus Leary, His LinkedIn has now been removed.

00:14:46.000 There's your before and after.

00:14:48.000 Excellent. Think about that for a second. He just removed it. Some people have said sunlight is the

00:14:54.000 best disinfectant, sometimes grain alcohol, but the principle remains, uh, yeah, they don't like

00:14:59.000 this operating in the light. Now, I don't know if this is admissible. I don't know how this plays

00:15:05.000 out in the appeals with these cases. I don't know. It certainly should be relevant when you're a

00:15:10.000 private citizen up against some of the most powerful agencies who have a never ending supply

00:15:14.000 of federal funding and you have a target on your back. It seems that you should. They want to, they

00:15:18.000 want to make Alex Jones seem like the big guy.

00:15:21.000 Biggest lawsuit.

00:15:22.000 Because he's a multi-millionaire.

00:15:22.000 Why?

00:15:24.000 This is the FBI and CIA. 0.98

00:15:26.000 They are the bully.

00:15:28.000 Alex Jones is a guy with a radio show and a podcast.

00:15:33.000 They want Pravda.

00:15:34.000 It seems this Oblenus guy, he just effectively committed career suicide. 0.82

00:15:39.000 Oh, yeah, that reminds me, actually.

00:15:41.000 Last week I did an audition for the sequel of Wizard of Oz.

00:15:44.000 I auditioned to be a munchkin.

00:15:46.000 What does that have to do with... Tim, roll it!

00:15:49.000 Send in the next audition for the munchkin. 1.00

00:15:56.000 No, no, no.

00:15:57.000 Get out.

00:15:58.000 Go.

00:16:02.000 Now.

00:16:05.000 Yeah, I understand it was actually a bird.

00:16:07.000 There was no munchkin. 1.00

00:16:08.000 No munchkin hung themselves. 0.98

00:16:08.000 What? 0.98

00:16:10.000 No, I refuse to believe that.

00:16:11.000 Also not the best thing to lead with if it's not in the script.

00:16:13.000 Alex Jones is going to join us to discuss this and more.

00:16:16.000 You can see his response at band.video.

00:16:19.000 You can follow him on Twitter at realalexjones.

00:16:21.000 And of course on Friday, his exclusive Mug Club show.

00:16:24.000 He has been taking a well-needed break for a little bit.

00:16:27.000 So you can go to mugclub.rumble.com and sign up there.

00:16:32.000 We're excited to have him on.

00:16:34.000 One of those things, and I've talked about this in the past, let me know when we do have Alex on.

00:16:37.000 Oh, also, I guess, you just told me Oblenis' Facebook has been removed, too.

00:16:42.000 Yep, yep.

00:16:43.000 Dennis Oblenis.

00:16:44.000 So, professionally, LinkedIn is gone.

00:16:47.000 How about his Grindr account?

00:16:48.000 No, of course not.

00:16:50.000 He's still grinding away.

00:16:51.000 I'm willing to bet you that there are a lot of fake accounts.

00:16:53.000 That guy made Liberace look like Ray Lewis.

00:16:56.000 Also on his grinder, he plays the piano on a typewriter. 0.92

00:16:59.000 Gross.

00:16:59.000 Why was he so forthcoming?

00:17:01.000 Who was interviewing him?

00:17:02.000 A shirtless Ryan Reynolds?

00:17:04.000 And then we did the Truman Capote.

00:17:08.000 And then we asked everybody, can I get some more cheese over here?

00:17:12.000 And they all think they're so clever.

00:17:13.000 What a pompous big girl. 1.00

00:17:14.000 And Donald Trump, Cheeto, I call him Cheeto because orange. 0.68

00:17:17.000 See how I'm clever? 0.98

00:17:18.000 No, we see how you're horny and lonely. 1.00

00:17:20.000 I like to kick him in the snatch. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Guys will literally say anything to get laid. 0.99

00:17:23.000 Yes.

00:17:24.000 I know, to another guy?

00:17:24.000 And gay men.

00:17:26.000 Gay men, they're the most decadent people in the world. 1.00

00:17:28.000 I like them, but Jesus sakes. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Wait, you like him? 0.98

00:17:31.000 No, you like them, the gays. 1.00

00:17:32.000 Yes. 0.94

00:17:32.000 Not him. 0.94

00:17:33.000 Not this fellow.

00:17:34.000 This guy's a little, uh, I don't feel good about the country when he worked for the FBI, CIA.

00:17:38.000 Yeah.

00:17:39.000 What are you saying, Nick?

00:17:40.000 They can't do the job?

00:17:41.000 Yes.

00:17:41.000 No, I agree with you.

00:17:42.000 The worst part about that whole video is I own that shirt.

00:17:46.000 I know, you and him.

00:17:48.000 You, him, and Ellen DeGeneres.

00:17:51.000 It's not the shirt's fault to be clean.

00:17:53.000 Oh, I haven't had one of these in a long time.

00:18:09.000 Yeah, you look like you should be Jimmy Braddock either working down in the docks or one of the village people when you pair it with the jeans.

00:18:14.000 It could go either way.

00:18:15.000 Alright, I believe we have him on the line, the OG, the man who is the bell of the ball.

00:18:20.000 Let's bring him on, Alex Jones.

00:18:26.000 Mr. Jones, you're not calling from your studio here today.

00:18:29.000 Can you see me and hear me, sir?

00:18:32.000 Yes sir, I can see you.

00:18:33.000 I've been watching and enjoying the broadcast and I'm in a hotel but I come back to Texas today and so I took a few days off here with the family but as you said I'm going to be back busy putting out those Mug Club reports as soon as I get back and it's great to be here with you.

00:18:52.000 No, well, I wish... I mean, I wish... I don't know if these are joyful circumstances.

00:18:56.000 It's not because of what you've been through, but it's always at least somewhat of a win as far as a small battle when the truth comes out.

00:19:01.000 Let me ask you this.

00:19:03.000 What was your reaction when you first saw that video?

00:19:05.000 Was it mixed emotions?

00:19:06.000 Because you know and we know that you've been railroaded.

00:19:09.000 Did you feel some kind of elation because it was confirmation, or was it mostly just anger because you're seeing someone blatantly admit it?

00:19:17.000 Well, I actually heard about the video from you guys.

00:19:21.000 I don't know if you know that.

00:19:22.000 They've been trying to contact me for a week, and of course it was just going into a black hole.

00:19:26.000 I have a great crew, but they don't check the tens of thousands of emails we get a day properly.

00:19:30.000 I don't know how they could.

00:19:32.000 And then one of your producers called and said, hey, they're trying to get a hold of you.

00:19:36.000 And I knew who the group was.

00:19:37.000 They're the folks that expose porn up, targeting children, and also Planned Parenthood's selling eight and a half month old aborted Yeah. 0.99

00:19:47.000 baby parts illegally.

00:19:49.000 So it's a very, very credible group that kind of split off Project Veritas,

00:19:52.000 very similar to your investigative unit.

00:19:55.000 And so I contacted him and I checked and saw that Oblemus was who he said he was,

00:20:04.000 former with the FBI and then a contract manager for the CIA.

00:20:09.000 That doesn't mean he's a contractor, he would just manage the contracts with their contractors.

00:20:13.000 So it was like a technical guy.

00:20:15.000 And I knew everything he was saying, I'd been through it, and that's why I talked about the S.H.

00:20:21.000 thing, but I don't even like to say the name, because it's a tar baby. 0.98

00:20:26.000 They've got this HBO show out, it's total fiction, and they tried to rope me in to respond to that, you know, to sue me again, and so I've just tried to stay away from it, but the process of what happened, I knew right when Trump won and suddenly

00:20:41.000 they were having some days, hundreds of articles a day, nightly news every night. I

00:20:45.000 mean, we're talking tens of thousands of articles over a two-year period. Then it was a big PR

00:20:49.000 firm, then it was a government operation.

00:20:52.000 They were having congressional hearings, but they wanted to take me off the air.

00:20:54.000 They were saying I was a Russian agent.

00:20:57.000 And so I was like, why are they saying I'm the SH guy?

00:21:00.000 When I barely ever hardly talked about it, just covered the internet doubting it.

00:21:03.000 I wasn't the guy that first said that.

00:21:05.000 I probably, they introduced 22 minutes in court of me.

00:21:10.000 I hadn't talked about it before.

00:21:11.000 They sued me for two years, because I had already knew it was some kind of weird,

00:21:15.000 you know, propaganda operation.

00:21:17.000 And then after they had the two defaults and told the juries I was guilty and rigged those cases

00:21:23.000 and had the HBO cameras in there and everything with the judge putting on makeup and all the rest of it, 0.94

00:21:27.000 the PR firms came out two years ago when they won the rigged cases and said,

00:21:34.000 we've been running this the whole time.

00:21:36.000 We didn't like Alex Jones.

00:21:37.000 So we went and took what he said, blew it all up in 2016.

00:21:41.000 In 2017, they basically embellished it to the power of 10 and then built that straw man that I was currently sitting in both their houses and currently peeing on graves, never did any of that, no one ever did any of that.

00:21:55.000 This man, by the way, he admitted that.

00:21:56.000 He admitted that there was nothing that you had done that was criminal.

00:21:58.000 That's what's so scary.

00:21:59.000 He says, yeah, but we have other ways to damage him.

00:22:01.000 Let's just bankrupt him.

00:22:02.000 We've talked about this, right?

00:22:03.000 There are the courts, which obviously are corrupt very often.

00:22:06.000 And then there's the court of public opinion, where there's no accountability.

00:22:08.000 And he was saying, we know, effectively, what I'm seeing is him saying, we know we can influence the courts through abusing the court of public opinion.

00:22:15.000 So it's important now when you talk about HBO, you talk about these networks, for people to understand, the FBI, the CIA, this administration, and these networks, along with big tech platforms, they're often one and the same.

00:22:26.000 Let me ask you this too, did it surprise you at all when he admitted that the FBI was there January 6th?

00:22:33.000 Because I know that when you were here you said, look, January 6th there were a bunch of people who were rabble-rousers, it was a small minority of people, but it was enough that it was significant and they need to be charged with threats. 0.91

00:22:41.000 You've been very consistent with that.

00:22:44.000 There were FBI agents present.

00:22:46.000 He just confirmed it.

00:22:47.000 Did that surprise you?

00:22:49.000 I mean, it's a leading question, but... No, it didn't surprise me.

00:22:54.000 And when he said 20, that was probably just FBI agents.

00:22:57.000 I mean, we know that there were some people that got into the heat of it, and the police fired tear gas, and then people broke in, but then the police opened the doors and brought everybody in, and now little old ladies are getting six months in jail for just walking through the velvet ropes. 0.99

00:23:11.000 Right.

00:23:12.000 But it didn't surprise me. 0.82

00:23:14.000 It did surprise me that he would sit there and just openly talk to a camera and openly brag about all these activities that he's obviously inside the FBI and the CIA and they're disgusting.

00:23:27.000 So I know he's telling the truth because I experienced it.

00:23:31.000 We're not getting into all the technicals but it's very important.

00:23:36.000 Connecticut that quarterbacked all this.

00:23:39.000 He's a high level Democrat party law firm.

00:23:41.000 Senator Blumenthal's heavily involved in it and his family.

00:23:44.000 We'll leave it at that.

00:23:45.000 But it's on record, the stolen valor, a guy that never went to Vietnam,

00:23:48.000 but said he was a Marine Corps combat veteran.

00:23:51.000 And it was never, he was actually like a gopher at the Capitol for the Marines.

00:23:57.000 Part of his quasi-draft dodging.

00:23:58.000 The lead lawyer there is a former federal prosecutor whose specialty is putting Republicans in jail,

00:24:05.000 including the governor of Connecticut, literally, for supposedly taking like $4,000 bribe or something

00:24:10.000 with no evidence.

00:24:12.000 And so, I was also sued by an FBI agent in that Sandy Hook case, never said his name, never showed a picture of him, didn't know who he was until he sued me.

00:24:20.000 The guy never got harassed, he'd been on the stand.

00:24:22.000 He got one phone call at his office after it happened to see if he was really FBI, because he didn't have his, you know, FBI Name on, his rifle was pointing up, you know, not down on his back.

00:24:34.000 People thought this guy's not real, so that they called, I didn't even know who he was, and he got $94 million.

00:24:40.000 Under the law in Connecticut, you can't sue somebody for defamation if you didn't say their name.

00:24:44.000 I went to the name of one of the Sammy Hook people ever, and I admitted to that. 0.96

00:24:48.000 And so, that was the reality.

00:24:51.000 And so, the FBI was in there the whole time.

00:24:54.000 We know, because they bragged about it, also the Texas case.

00:24:58.000 that they were giving all the discovery to the FBI, hoping to put me in prison.

00:25:03.000 Then when I declared bankruptcy, the Justice Department is under the law, it's very rare,

00:25:08.000 could come into a case and oversee it.

00:25:13.000 And so they actually came into the case, and in my depositions, they would have two federal agents literally staring at me

00:25:23.000 while lawyers interrogated me.

00:25:24.000 And they were in the news, he's hiding hundreds of millions, he's going to prison.

00:25:28.000 And of course, none of that was true.

00:25:30.000 I'm not... I mean...

00:25:32.000 Folks, if anything, I'm not organized at all when it comes to money.

00:25:36.000 I go to a CPA, they do my taxes.

00:25:38.000 Then they sent the IRS in two years ago to audit me.

00:25:41.000 Two and a half years ago, it was a year-long audit.

00:25:45.000 They tore the office apart.

00:25:46.000 They were there dozens of times, and they said, this is very rare.

00:25:50.000 But, uh, you were owed $4.2 million.

00:25:53.000 And I have a copy of the cashier's check, and then I had to give that to the bankruptcy court that went into a black hole of lawyers.

00:25:59.000 Well, let me ask you this because it gets, sorry, it gets a little, like you said, it

00:26:02.000 gets a little complicated for people to understand.

00:26:04.000 There's so many moving parts.

00:26:06.000 I do want to get to, you know, Elon Musk and the space, you requesting a space there.

00:26:10.000 By the way, people get a free month of Mug Club right now if they use the promo code ALEX.

00:26:14.000 I know you're going to be back here in the continental United States.

00:26:17.000 I don't know where you are, but I can guess.

00:26:20.000 Let me ask you this, though.

00:26:20.000 You do have a lawsuit planned yourself.

00:26:23.000 Yes.

00:26:24.000 Can you explain that to people so they understand what it is that you're... Yes, and Stephen, I apologize for going on and on, but let me just finish that last bit and then I'll get into that.

00:26:33.000 My point is, Justice Department, Law firms, rigged courts, who are not allowed to defend yourself.

00:26:42.000 This is the cocktail they've used against Trump.

00:26:45.000 It's the cocktail that they're now using against everybody.

00:26:47.000 And absolutely, the only reason I want to sue them is to get my name back.

00:26:52.000 I don't even want money, but I want to be able to call Oblevis in. 1.00

00:26:56.000 I want to be able to call their other lawyers in.

00:26:58.000 I want to be able to call in the PR firms because the mistake they made was run their mouth.

00:27:02.000 I mean, the lawyers in Connecticut and Texas, and by the way, the Texas group is the same steps when they won their cases the judge has already found

00:27:13.000 me guilty and then told the jury to find me guilty for a bunch of money. They said our

00:27:17.000 mission is to silence him we don't want money and that's now happening in the bankruptcy court where the

00:27:23.000 judge is like wait the law says you can get money but the law doesn't say you get to silence people.

00:27:30.000 So basically there's now findings about to be made public that they're dealing in bad faith.

00:27:34.000 So that's some inside baseball.

00:27:35.000 But yes, I've talked to several different civil rights law firms, and I've had four

00:27:41.000 conversations with four law firms since this just broke.

00:27:45.000 I was talking to them before it broke.

00:27:48.000 So in the last week, they just broke a day and a half ago.

00:27:50.000 It seems like a million years ago now.

00:27:52.000 And so it's a big deal.

00:27:53.000 You know, it's all God.

00:27:55.000 You're opening up the mouths of these evil people to then expose themselves.

00:27:58.000 The Bible says, the pit they dig for you is the pit they will fall into.

00:28:02.000 And so absolutely, I don't like taking on the FBI or the CIA.

00:28:05.000 But if somebody's on top of you, breaking your nose and punching your eyeballs out and gang raping you and running over you and backing over you, all you can do is fight back.

00:28:14.000 That's why when I saw the targeting of you a few years ago, I called you.

00:28:17.000 We're already friends then.

00:28:18.000 I said, listen, don't let it get to you because you're successful.

00:28:21.000 You're one of the top talk shows.

00:28:22.000 You're populous.

00:28:23.000 People love you.

00:28:24.000 Do not, and I know you're smart, but you haven't been through a lot of this yet.

00:28:27.000 You've been through some stuff.

00:28:29.000 I said, I know the cut of this jib.

00:28:31.000 I know the signature.

00:28:32.000 This is 100% the Justice Department and the CIA.

00:28:36.000 They create the narrative.

00:28:37.000 They look at things.

00:28:38.000 They go, we'll take this and we'll take that.

00:28:40.000 And we'll make Alex Jones the guy that bullies kids and pees on graves. 1.00

00:28:43.000 And then we'll make Steven Crowder this guy that, you know, literally breaks women's necks and human sacrifices them.

00:28:43.000 Exactly.

00:28:50.000 And it's just all made up.

00:28:51.000 And then they just hype it and hype it.

00:28:52.000 Now and then.

00:28:53.000 To take what you're known for being smart and being funny and, you know, having a talented crew and reaching tens of millions of people.

00:29:00.000 And now you're someone that, you know, We murder children on the side of the highway.

00:29:04.000 And so just you understand, this is what comes in the territory.

00:29:07.000 The good news is, it's backfiring now.

00:29:09.000 And so when I talked to Elon for two and a half hours a few months ago, and I've since, you know, obviously talked to him a few other times.

00:29:14.000 I'll leave it at that.

00:29:16.000 He really gets it now and understands that it was all a psy-op.

00:29:20.000 And so yes, there's a good chance I'll be doing a Spaces either Friday or Saturday.

00:29:25.000 Oh good!

00:29:26.000 I'd love for you to be involved but that's hopefully in the works, you never know.

00:29:29.000 I was supposed to be on one with him and we were talking to him with Zero Hedge a few months ago but he had basically a migraine headache and I believe he was the guy who works 20 hours a day and so yeah that's going on and hopefully, I'm just throwing this out there, hopefully Elon Musk will bankroll a lawsuit against the Deep State because the same, because he's already bankrolled some other ones Because the same people coming after him, the very same law firms are the ones suing him.

00:29:58.000 Right.

00:29:58.000 Well, a couple of things I wanted to touch on here.

00:30:00.000 First off, if you could just give me a short answer on this, because then I do want to get to Elon Musk and some of the conservatives who haven't really stood in the line of fire like they should.

00:30:07.000 I know you're talking about these lawsuits.

00:30:08.000 I know you can't give too much information, but since you were discussing this with law firms beforehand, this new footage that's been revealed, how did your lawyers respond?

00:30:17.000 Did they say, this definitely helps?

00:30:19.000 Is it significant to them?

00:30:21.000 Absolutely, because the fact that he's worked with DHS, FBI, and manages the technicals of ops, so he's the guy that's kind of like managing the technical systems.

00:30:34.000 Well, he's an FBI agent, he's a CIA officer, he's got credibility, right?

00:30:38.000 They're all heroes and good guys, they don't lie, and so that's their narrative.

00:30:42.000 Of course, it's not true, but he's telling the truth here.

00:30:48.000 civil rights issue cut and dry. You already have congressional hearings going on with weaponization.

00:30:54.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene is now calling for hearings on this and it's even going to be involved in the

00:31:00.000 re-upping hearings.

00:31:04.000 I've already started to announce that.

00:31:05.000 Others have announced it. 0.96

00:31:07.000 And so this is really a breakthrough moment, him running his big fat mouth.

00:31:11.000 And so bare minimum, he's probably going to end up being called before Congress.

00:31:15.000 You saw he just removed, we just found out this morning, he removed his, or his LinkedIn was removed and his Facebook.

00:31:19.000 So that means that he's running and tucking tail.

00:31:21.000 I wanted to get to, I know that Elon Musk called this disturbing.

00:31:24.000 He put that out on X and you asked him to do a space.

00:31:26.000 Let me kind of tell you something, Alex, that really bothers me.

00:31:29.000 And I know you've had to deal with this.

00:31:31.000 I know that Sound Investigations, I know they were working on this.

00:31:34.000 And I know that, you know, these kinds of things that, you know, they circulate before they're made public.

00:31:39.000 and there are a lot of people and outlets who could have run with this, who could have supported it, and opted not

00:31:46.000 to.

00:31:47.000 And I tell you this, this has happened to me, people have seen it publicly, but for

00:31:49.000 every time they see it publicly, they don't see it privately. You know, for example, when I've

00:31:53.000 been on Pierce Morgan's show, every time he tries to get me to go on and denounce

00:31:57.000 Alex Jones, and I just say, no, I'm not going to, you're not going to get me to say that I agree

00:32:00.000 with everything that he says, but you're not going to get me to

00:32:02.000 denounce him or condemn him.

00:32:03.000 Why? Because he's my friend.

00:32:06.000 Because he's my friend.

00:32:07.000 He's a good man.

00:32:08.000 No one's perfect, and at least you are very transparent about it.

00:32:12.000 But they always try and do that, and here's the thing.

00:32:13.000 I've also had that in depositions.

00:32:16.000 I've had that behind the scenes, where you could not be less relevant.

00:32:19.000 They go, and are you friends with Alex Jones?

00:32:21.000 And every time I've just answered, yes.

00:32:23.000 Yes, I am.

00:32:24.000 And to be willing to take the risks that you do, and that a lot of people on Mug Club and people in independent media like Mr. Figueredo, who's going to be on, that to me should be the rule, not the exception.

00:32:34.000 So to see other conservatives out there go, well yeah, this is wrong and it's railroading, but you know, we just don't want to touch it because it's Alex Jones and he's his own thing.

00:32:43.000 You've been experiencing that for a long time.

00:32:44.000 I would imagine that's why places like Rumble and Elon Musk are significant, because you and I both know there are people who put on the team jersey publicly, and they don't take on the fights that are actually difficult and require a little bit of fortitude.

00:32:57.000 Well, that's right.

00:32:59.000 And this is a communist or totalitarian tactic where they'll pick one person to pick on first, and then they'll say, oh, do you support this guy and get everybody to turn against him, or at least not support him.

00:33:08.000 Then they move on to the next person.

00:33:10.000 So that's wolves trying to cut flocks, they can eat it. It's an absolute divide and

00:33:17.000 conquer tactic and it's pure crap. 0.97

00:33:20.000 And I have friends, when they do things I think are wrong, I'll say, I think they're 0.99

00:33:23.000 off base. But bigger than that, people that I'm not friends with, when I see a synthetic 1.00

00:33:29.000 attack, when I see the media, the corporate press all piling on, I mean, I know what it

00:33:35.000 is, that's their only power now because they have almost no viewers. But they can still

00:33:41.000 scare politicians, scare media, that you're gonna be targeted if you talk to this person.

00:33:45.000 Well, the reason they don't want people talking to Stephen Crowder or Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson is because we're popular and we're telling the truth and the organic population likes us.

00:33:56.000 And we have the big audience system.

00:33:58.000 So the media still, the corporate media, the downstream media, still wants to be the gatekeepers.

00:34:02.000 Right.

00:34:03.000 So all they're doing is gatekeeping and that's their last power.

00:34:06.000 They have almost no viewers.

00:34:07.000 It's a complete joke.

00:34:08.000 And I found That the hit pieces only create more support.

00:34:13.000 And I'm not going to go into a long story, but just briefly, I'm here in Hawaii, it's already in the news, I'm here.

00:34:21.000 But even TMZ said, oh yeah, we stabbed a shot of him, get nice tea by the way at the bar, I was down being good.

00:34:28.000 And people were coming over, shaking his hand, saying good job.

00:34:32.000 And I'm not bragging, it's not about me, it's that Freedom is popular.

00:34:36.000 I was here in Hawaii.

00:34:37.000 I like to come here every few years.

00:34:38.000 I was here in Hawaii like five years ago, and I shook a lot of hands, but I got yelled at four or five times.

00:34:42.000 I had to come over and step on my fingers when my hand was out of the hot tub and say, you know, what's up punk?

00:34:46.000 I had to call security.

00:34:48.000 I have literally shook, which I don't mind doing, but I can barely even go to the grocery store or walk down the street or go to the beach.

00:34:54.000 Sure.

00:34:55.000 The police, the people at the hotels, almost everybody.

00:34:58.000 I mean, I was at the grocery store yesterday and had like 25 people lined up lined up and I'm in the line shaking my hand.

00:35:04.000 Black, white, Asian, old, young, Hispanic, all listeners.

00:35:07.000 So whatever the globalists have done, they've really, really, really, really screwed up.

00:35:12.000 Because these people aren't just like, hey, I like your show.

00:35:14.000 They're like, hey, when are you coming back?

00:35:16.000 You know, I've seen, you know, Owen's been on the show.

00:35:18.000 He's great, but where are you?

00:35:19.000 You know, I haven't, oh, you're here in Hawaii.

00:35:21.000 And I've had a lot of people say, hey man, we love Steven Crowder.

00:35:24.000 Literally, I mean, every day is funny.

00:35:26.000 You're the gas station.

00:35:27.000 I love Steven Crowder, I love you on the show.

00:35:28.000 We are the media.

00:35:30.000 And, but if people aren't public figures like we are, they don't get that feedback,

00:35:36.000 which is cool to have anonymity.

00:35:38.000 I'm like, oh, I'm famous.

00:35:39.000 What I'm saying is they don't get to see how popular freedom is.

00:35:44.000 That's why the corporate media is after us because they're a joke.

00:35:47.000 They're discredited.

00:35:48.000 They lied about WMDs on purpose. 0.80

00:35:50.000 They killed 500,000 Iraqi kids and said it was a good price to pay Madeline Albright. 0.84

00:35:53.000 They're the ones letting fentanyl come in.

00:35:55.000 They're the ones dissolving the border.

00:35:56.000 It's Biden that let in 90 plus thousand little kids. 0.97

00:35:58.000 Senate report that have come up missing, many of them in sex slavery and in factory slavery.

00:36:02.000 We're not running factories with 12 year olds. 0.73

00:36:04.000 We're not sex slavery with eight year old girls being gang raped. 0.79

00:36:08.000 I mean, we've done nothing. 0.98

00:36:09.000 And so, oh look, Steven might have a crooked toenail.

00:36:12.000 You know, we heard that, or you know, Alex Jones, it's a fraud and people get it.

00:36:16.000 So the system is so discredited now that their attacks on us are nothing but an endorsement.

00:36:22.000 That's why they're so- Yeah.

00:36:24.000 Well, here's the one- well, two things.

00:36:25.000 I do have a crooked toe now.

00:36:26.000 You didn't need to reveal that publicly.

00:36:28.000 I'm sorry that you had to pay $25 for milk there in Hawaii.

00:36:31.000 The inflation is unreal.

00:36:32.000 I'm sitting there like, what?

00:36:33.000 It's a $9 load?

00:36:34.000 This better be magic bread.

00:36:36.000 And I get asked all the time, one of the most common questions I get asked is, so is Alex

00:36:39.000 Jones really like that?

00:36:40.000 And I hope you don't mind this.

00:36:41.000 What I do is I have one of- because you know, you're a busy man, so you'll often leave me

00:36:44.000 like voice messages.

00:36:45.000 So I have one where there's no personal information, but it's... He'll leave them for me, like, at 10 o'clock, and it's like, Hey, Crowder, I'm sorry, I was on the road, and, uh, you know, what happened is, I don't know, this happened when I was on a golf course, and I, I was under par, but, uh, you know, and then the globalist, and I go, this is him!

00:36:59.000 He's the same guy all the time, and I say, like him or hate him, that is Alex Jones.

00:36:59.000 I go, this is him!

00:37:04.000 But I will say this, the left does not affect, their attacks don't work.

00:37:08.000 The only effect that they have anymore, the only power they have, are quizlings on the right. In other words, if there's an

00:37:14.000 attack piece in the New York Times or in the Washington Post, people inherently know, or NPR

00:37:18.000 people know, the problem is when there's silence from conservatives or when conservatives go

00:37:21.000 along with it because they say not me, no true Scotsman. Speaking of globalists though, I

00:37:26.000 do want to, just so people understand the significance of the threat, you use the term globalist,

00:37:30.000 it really is a global problem. Here is actually Mr. Trudeau, Prime Minister, I don't want to say

00:37:36.000 Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau in Canadian Parliament talking about you to

00:37:41.000 the government Sorry right clip

00:37:49.000 Here's the other clip.

00:37:51.000 Speaking of misinformation and disinformation, any responsible leader that receives an endorsement and support from proven conspiracy theorist and liar Alex Jones would have immediately denounced that.

00:38:05.000 But that's not what the Leader of the Opposition did.

00:38:08.000 He did absolutely nothing, because those kinds of endorsements fit within his political strategy.

00:38:14.000 That's right away what they're trying to do.

00:38:15.000 Like you said, divide and conquer.

00:38:16.000 By the way, his dad is Fidel Castro, just to make it clear.

00:38:19.000 In case you guys didn't know.

00:38:20.000 Or Liam Neeson.

00:38:21.000 It could be either of those.

00:38:23.000 I just want you to... I can't prove it, but I'll stand by it.

00:38:27.000 Alex Jones, Nick DiPaolo is here and he did have a question for you.

00:38:30.000 First of all, thank you Alex for taking the slings and arrows and being the stand-up guy that you are.

00:38:36.000 And this is only going to make you stronger the same way all the indictments with Trump and stuff.

00:38:41.000 My question is, When Trump gets elected, how long is it going to take to uproot this cancerous, deep state?

00:38:52.000 I mean, he wants to clean house.

00:38:57.000 I don't know.

00:38:58.000 Do we think he'll do it?

00:38:58.000 Is that logistically possible?

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 And will he do it?

00:39:05.000 Trump is really a different man now.

00:39:07.000 He's very hardcore.

00:39:08.000 He's super informed.

00:39:09.000 Before he was naive, he admits that to people like Roger Stone.

00:39:12.000 I talk to him every day.

00:39:13.000 Trump really gets it now.

00:39:16.000 Before he thought, I'm the new CEO, I'll bring in the power structure, they'll take my orders, we'll make America great again.

00:39:24.000 Now he understands that there really is a criminal deep state out to not just get him, but literally destroy America and dominate and control it and parlay our power into global domination.

00:39:32.000 And so if he isn't able to get in and get past all of the manipulation, which I think obviously a landslide's coming, they're going to have real trouble blocking it.

00:39:39.000 They're trying to keep him off balance with all these criminal cases.

00:39:44.000 with the Supreme Court deciding if that continues on.

00:39:47.000 And so we're in for very, very tough times, very, very serious times.

00:39:51.000 You have to admire Trump for being the man in the arena.

00:39:54.000 And I stand with him, even though I don't agree with some of the things he does.

00:39:58.000 Overall, he's trying to be the president.

00:39:59.000 He was the president.

00:40:00.000 And he's trying to represent the people as best as he sees fit.

00:40:04.000 And so the attacks on Trump are attacks on the American people and our right to govern

00:40:09.000 our nation.

00:40:10.000 We take Trudeau, for those that don't know, it's a parliamentary system.

00:40:12.000 So he got like 20-something percent of the vote, but he's still in power by sharing power

00:40:16.000 with the other members of parliament.

00:40:18.000 This is the guy who was asked, what's your favorite form of government?

00:40:22.000 He said, communist China's basic dictatorship.

00:40:24.000 You can get stuff done.

00:40:25.000 He's a guy that had a real SS officer, a real war criminal from Ukraine.

00:40:29.000 a standing ovation.

00:40:29.000 Right.

00:40:31.000 And so Pierre Polyvere, I'm like, hey, if this guy really has taken on the globalist,

00:40:36.000 wow, Canada deserves somebody better than Trudeau.

00:40:39.000 They go, oh, look, you just got endorsed by Alex Jones, you're Alex Jones.

00:40:43.000 And Polyvere was smart enough to not go along with their thing. 0.99

00:40:46.000 You're right, I shouldn't be endorsed by him.

00:40:48.000 And then they'd say, oh, see, but that's who you are.

00:40:51.000 That's a trap.

00:40:52.000 You don't associate with somebody that likes you.

00:40:56.000 And so Trudeau's a complete joke.

00:40:58.000 He's trying to pass laws, as you know, to put people in jail for their speech.

00:41:01.000 Well, they already do that, but for long prison sentences, he's propped up the media with over a billion dollars up there.

00:41:08.000 It's state-run.

00:41:09.000 Yeah, it's CBC, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.

00:41:12.000 And Alex, I hate to cut, but we do have this Brazilian journalist who's also experiencing, you know, a very similar kind of timeline to what you are.

00:41:18.000 And for people watching, you can go to ladoscaro.comslashmugclub or rumble.comslashmugclub or rumble.mugclub.

00:41:26.000 What is the website?

00:41:27.000 I just, there's so many, just go to Alex.

00:41:29.000 And if they enter in the promo code Alex, they'll get a month free.

00:41:31.000 but where is the best place for people to find you and support you, Alex?

00:41:35.000 Just, uh, bands.

00:41:54.000 Absolutely.

00:41:54.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:41:55.000 We really appreciate it, brother.

00:41:56.000 This has been Alex Jones, everybody.

00:42:02.000 And this is a time before we bring on Mr. Figueredo, which is like Smith in Brazil.

00:42:07.000 Hit the like button or download the Rumble app if you can.

00:42:09.000 That's actually the best way to not lose touch.

00:42:12.000 If you download the Rumble app and you'll get those notifications straight on your phone.

00:42:15.000 We're at the point where we have to uncouple ourselves from big tech.

00:42:20.000 Because if you think for a second, I mean, we just talked about this with Donald Trump.

00:42:23.000 You don't think that they're doing exactly what Donald Trump, what they're doing with him.

00:42:25.000 There's someone behind closed doors saying, oh, there's nothing we can do criminally.

00:42:27.000 It's not, but you know what?

00:42:28.000 We can just bog him down.

00:42:29.000 We can damage him going into the election.

00:42:31.000 We can change the statute of limitations on, uh, on, uh, you know, sexual assault there in New York, right in time for the press.

00:42:37.000 We can do all those things.

00:42:38.000 We know we don't have anything.

00:42:39.000 We'll just use the tools available to us so we can damage his reputation.

00:42:43.000 This is what they do.

00:42:43.000 They go, hey, Alex Jones.

00:42:46.000 This is Alex Jones.

00:42:47.000 They misrepresent him to you.

00:42:48.000 And they go, so everyone remember, that's Alex Jones.

00:42:50.000 Alex Jones pees in the graves of children, right?

00:42:52.000 And then they say, now we're going to make everyone else guilty by association.

00:42:55.000 So they're afraid to even support someone they know.

00:42:58.000 And that's not something that we do here.

00:42:59.000 That's why we've created Mug Club. 0.76

00:43:01.000 You've experienced that in comedy.

00:43:02.000 I know we're not going to name names, but you've had people call you up who say, you know, you really shouldn't say that, Nick.

00:43:06.000 Your career would go further if you didn't.

00:43:09.000 And you've not played, this is an entire room, an entire company of people who Don't play well with others, but we play pretty well together.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, it's funny how the people that side with the truth are considered people who don't play well with others.

00:43:21.000 That's the world we live in.

00:43:21.000 I know.

00:43:23.000 It's very weird.

00:43:24.000 And what's funny is people like you and Alex, look, I'm not gonna lie, Nick DiPaolo can be kind of prickly, but he shows up.

00:43:32.000 He shows up on time.

00:43:33.000 He's excited to do the work.

00:43:34.000 Well, I'm white.

00:43:34.000 He's professional.

00:43:36.000 That's not always the case, as you well know.

00:43:38.000 Not always.

00:43:39.000 You're right.

00:43:39.000 It's arguable.

00:43:40.000 Who said that?

00:43:42.000 Hitler? 0.62

00:43:42.000 Me. 0.62

00:43:43.000 Go on.

00:43:43.000 They don't know yet.

00:43:44.000 They don't know.

00:43:45.000 Take it easy, Feinstein.

00:43:46.000 I don't talk about my aunt like that.

00:43:52.000 I would rather deal with a thousand Nick DePaulos and a thousand Alex Jones than one passive-aggressive who passes themselves off as conservative and isn't willing to actually stand in the pocket.

00:44:03.000 And this brings us to, while we're talking about Elon Musk, we discussed this yesterday, we have some updates, and we have Mr. Figueiredo coming on, Paulo Figueiredo, Elon Musk and the Brazilian Supreme Court Judge Alexandra Is it Marias?

00:44:16.000 I hope I'm saying that correctly.

00:44:17.000 De Marias.

00:44:18.000 De Marias.

00:44:19.000 They have been going after the timeline here the more we add it up, especially when you look at what's happened with Rumble, is alarming.

00:44:25.000 And it's not about what the left does.

00:44:26.000 Here's what the left would do if they were completely unfettered.

00:44:28.000 You're kind of seeing that in Brazil right now where Rumble is not even available in Brazil.

00:44:32.000 And this man who's a journalist there has had his passport revoked, his bank account's frozen, he's been deplatformed, and it all can be traced back to the government, and really one key Supreme Court judge, Marias.

00:44:44.000 He basically thinks he's this guy, the megamind to take down Musk.

00:44:55.000 It drives a point home, but it's childish.

00:44:57.000 Uncanny.

00:44:59.000 Just to give you an idea who this guy is.

00:45:02.000 What did you say?

00:45:03.000 I said it's uncanny.

00:45:04.000 It is.

00:45:05.000 It really is.

00:45:05.000 It's a good call.

00:45:06.000 That last guy looked like my left nut.

00:45:09.000 Same color.

00:45:09.000 That's a problem.

00:45:10.000 You have a circulation issue.

00:45:13.000 That's why I'm sitting like this today.

00:45:15.000 What are you doing to it?

00:45:16.000 I'm picturing like the old Chuck Roast where they wrap it in that twine rope.

00:45:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:23.000 They don't do that to butchers anymore where they wrap it in that little wicker twine rope and then it's like bulging.

00:45:28.000 It looks like Megamind.

00:45:30.000 I wear that on stage.

00:45:32.000 He's currently serving two roles now in the Brazilian court system.

00:45:35.000 So 2017, he was put, I believe, in the Supreme Court there.

00:45:38.000 Then there was a new court created.

00:45:39.000 I was almost there.

00:45:40.000 I know.

00:45:41.000 Go ahead.

00:45:42.000 He's currently serving two roles now in the Brazilian court system.

00:45:45.000 So 2017, okay, he was put, I believe, in the Supreme Court there.

00:45:50.000 Then there was a new court created.

00:45:51.000 He's the president of the electoral court, okay?

00:45:55.000 And he was appointed there just before the election of Lula, who, you know, took out Bolsonaro, was a criminal before, but it got overturned by the Supreme Court.

00:46:00.000 No corruption there.

00:46:01.000 It's not like there's been a history of corruption in the intelligence agencies or the police forces or the Supreme Courts in Brazil.

00:46:09.000 Hey, if you're watching from Brazil right now, tell me, if you're walking down the street and there's a gang member on one side and there's a member of your government on the other or a policeman, who do you trust?

00:46:19.000 Which side of the street do you walk on?

00:46:21.000 Trick question!

00:46:22.000 Neither is good, but you probably take it with the gangbanger.

00:46:26.000 Let's go through here.

00:46:28.000 And something else, I really have a question before I bring this man on.

00:46:31.000 I know a lot of Brazilians.

00:46:33.000 Not one.

00:46:34.000 Not one.

00:46:35.000 And there's, like I said, with one exception, who is a liberal journalist, is a fan of Lula.

00:46:39.000 They all love Bolsonaro to a degree that you don't see with a lot of politicians.

00:46:43.000 So, you can comment below.

00:46:45.000 Maybe I'm just... I get it.

00:46:47.000 It could be an echo chamber.

00:46:48.000 Let's go through this timeline here.

00:46:50.000 This Supreme Court Chief issued an order allowing the court to open their own investigations.

00:47:04.000 So they gave themselves permission to run investigations.

00:47:07.000 The first order was given to Marias, and the first thing that Marias did Was order a magazine to retract an article accusing the Chief Justice of corruption.

00:47:19.000 We're going to give ourselves the ability to investigate anybody.

00:47:21.000 Okay, great.

00:47:22.000 First order of business, we are going to order you to stop pointing out corruption.

00:47:27.000 Think about that for a second.

00:47:29.000 They're not even trying to hide it.

00:47:30.000 What else has happened?

00:47:31.000 This man, Marias, has arrested, um, or ordered the arrest of eight businessmen, uh, for WhatsApp messages.

00:47:37.000 He's jailed people without trial for social media posts.

00:47:40.000 He's banned Telegram.

00:47:41.000 He's tried to, and this is something else too, tried to, before X, tried to bully Rumble into removing accounts.

00:47:46.000 Okay, Rumble, where you're likely watching right now, said, you have to remove these accounts.

00:47:50.000 And Rumble said, uh, no, we're not going to do that.

00:47:52.000 So if the consequence is Rumble is no longer available in Brazil until we sort this out, that's what we're going to do.

00:47:59.000 Rumble is not in the business of removing accounts if they are not breaking the law.

00:48:03.000 And that's important.

00:48:05.000 That's important.

00:48:05.000 I'm glad that we have people like Rumble there, and now we also have X. We also have video of Mariah's admitting that he's a bad guy.

00:48:13.000 You're just giving up?

00:48:15.000 I'm the bad guy.

00:48:16.000 I don't save the day.

00:48:18.000 I don't fly off into the sunset, and I don't get the girl.

00:48:23.000 Mariah's also So you have X, you have Rumble, you have Going After a Magazine, when you're now basically in charge of a new court.

00:48:33.000 A new court that, I don't know, handles elections that a lot of people think was corrupt and if those people complained that it was corrupt they were accused of rioting.

00:48:39.000 I don't know if you see those parallels there.

00:48:41.000 He has also personally ordered I would say witch hunt, political prosecution of our next guest, journalist Paulo Figueiredo.

00:48:50.000 This man has had his passport revoked, he's had his bank accounts frozen, he's had his social media censored.

00:48:56.000 All of this for simply having a point of view that is deemed unacceptable in Brazil.

00:49:00.000 So please, let's welcome our new friend here.

00:49:03.000 I hope we have him on the line.

00:49:04.000 I know we're making this call internationally.

00:49:06.000 Mr. Paulo Figueiredo.

00:49:12.000 Mr. Figueredo, can you see me, hear me, sir?

00:49:15.000 I can hear you and see you perfectly.

00:49:18.000 If this call was international and I was in Brazil, I would be in jail.

00:49:22.000 I'm in South Florida, so this is a domestic call.

00:49:25.000 Well, I apologize.

00:49:26.000 I wanted it to seem more international because it makes us seem more cultured.

00:49:31.000 But you still have an accent, so that's nice.

00:49:34.000 It's not as severe as a lot of Brazilians.

00:49:35.000 How did that happen?

00:49:38.000 I went to school here, I study here in several schools, and I've been here for 10 years.

00:49:43.000 Otherwise, again, I would be in prison.

00:49:45.000 Yes, I can imagine.

00:49:46.000 That seems to be the rule there in Brazil.

00:49:48.000 A couple of questions before I ask you about some of these details.

00:49:52.000 What does eso mean in Brazil?

00:49:54.000 In jiu-jitsu they always go, eso!

00:49:57.000 It means, yeah, that's right.

00:50:01.000 And you should come to train Jiu-Jitsu here in South Florida in the Valenti Brothers.

00:50:06.000 They watch you, so you should come here.

00:50:07.000 Okay.

00:50:07.000 And then what is a... Is ae!

00:50:09.000 They would say if someone gets it, they go ae!

00:50:11.000 What does that mean?

00:50:13.000 That means, again, that's good.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, alright.

00:50:16.000 Okay.

00:50:16.000 And then what means... You can't do that!

00:50:18.000 That's cheat!

00:50:18.000 Porra!

00:50:21.000 Yeah, that's a bad word.

00:50:22.000 Is it a bad word? 1.00

00:50:22.000 Yeah, it's like, yeah, shit. 1.00

00:50:25.000 It's like, don't do that shit. 1.00

00:50:26.000 Hey! 1.00

00:50:27.000 Don't say shit on my show. 1.00

00:50:28.000 Don't do that. 1.00

00:50:29.000 We have children who watch, okay? 1.00

00:50:31.000 Maybe in Brazil, carnival with butts and boobs. 1.00

00:50:34.000 It's okay. 1.00

00:50:35.000 Not here.

00:50:36.000 We don't do here.

00:50:37.000 Boha! 0.96

00:50:40.000 Yes, that's exact.

00:50:42.000 Poha means something else.

00:50:43.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:50:44.000 The translation is shit, but the technical term would be sperm. 1.00

00:50:48.000 Poha means... Whoa! 1.00

00:50:48.000 Okay. 1.00

00:50:50.000 Wait, sperm? 0.99

00:50:52.000 Like... Never shed a toe meat. 0.99

00:50:54.000 Right, just never shed... Wait, sperm? 0.96

00:50:56.000 Like to spurn somebody? 0.99

00:50:57.000 Or did you say sperm as in ejaculate? 0.98

00:51:01.000 No, the actual ejaculation fluid. 0.82

00:51:03.000 No.

00:51:05.000 That's what Poha means.

00:51:06.000 But in Rio, where I'm from, I'm from Rio, Brazil, that's where Jiu Jitsu became popular.

00:51:14.000 Poha is like, we say Poha like Americans say the F word after every sentence.

00:51:21.000 Yeah.

00:51:23.000 That's not how we cuss. 1.00

00:51:24.000 We don't say the F word after every sentence.

00:51:26.000 I've seen it before.

00:51:29.000 Okay, okay.

00:51:29.000 We talk about sperm.

00:51:30.000 That's what's complimentary.

00:51:32.000 It means just many of you and only take one to get victory.

00:51:36.000 So that's for high.

00:51:38.000 It's complimentary to me.

00:51:40.000 What is, let me go through this.

00:51:42.000 What's your specific relationship with, before I do that, where's the best place for people to find you and support you right now?

00:51:48.000 Since you're stateside, does it rumble?

00:51:49.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:51:51.000 I'm on Rumble.

00:51:54.000 I have a Rumble channel.

00:51:55.000 My show is in Portuguese and Rumble, but the U.S.

00:51:57.000 audience can follow me on Axe at RioPfigureiro, which is my last name.

00:52:01.000 I know it's hard to follow.

00:52:04.000 That's the way it is.

00:52:05.000 At RioPfigureiro, I'm on Axe and most of my posts are in English, so they can follow me there.

00:52:13.000 My Rumble channel is still in Portuguese, although Rumble, as you properly said, is not banned in Brazil.

00:52:19.000 They decided to not comply to the rules I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on that?

00:52:35.000 Because I know that obviously that's a significant portion of your business, how you make a living.

00:52:40.000 But I would imagine that on moral grounds, you're supportive of them, you know, rebelling against the Brazilian government.

00:52:45.000 But what's your overall feeling on that, that Brazilian fans can't watch you unless they maybe have a VPN?

00:52:52.000 Well, it hurt me tremendously, but I actually talked to them.

00:52:58.000 They were cautious enough to let me know what they were going to do, and I fully support it, because like Elon Musk said, principles are more important than profit.

00:53:12.000 And that was the basis.

00:53:13.000 All this started when I tweeted to Elon Musk saying, well, you're saying all these rules are illegal, so why comply?

00:53:20.000 Locals and Rumble didn't.

00:53:22.000 And that's when he said he was going to lift all the sanctions in Brazil.

00:53:25.000 So I fully support it, although I think it's of course it hurts my business, right?

00:53:31.000 Yeah, and I'm sorry to hear that.

00:53:33.000 Hey, maybe there's a way that Mug Club and what you're doing, Mr. Figueiredo, can pair up.

00:53:37.000 We can put a poll out there.

00:53:38.000 We probably could use some Brazilian-Portuguese people coming on over, giving them access to more content.

00:53:44.000 Let me ask you this.

00:53:45.000 What is your specific relationship with Justice Moraes?

00:53:50.000 Because he's at the center of a lot of this, and the more I was doing research, it kept coming back to the same person.

00:53:56.000 Well, he is the de facto dictator of Brazil, so I don't have a relationship with him other than I was a journalist on the mainstream media, okay?

00:54:04.000 I was on Primetime.

00:54:07.000 I used to have sometimes more viewers than Fox News on Primetime in the U.S.

00:54:11.000 It's like I'm talking about millions of people watching every day on TV, regular cable TV, cable news TV.

00:54:18.000 The show that I was on was considered the number one political show in the country for a long time.

00:54:23.000 So, and one day on December 30th, 2022, so after Lula's election, I woke up with the order of cancellation of my Brazilian passport, which was unheard of.

00:54:41.000 The ban of all my social media in Brazil, you can access my social media if you're not in Brazil or if you're using a VPN, not in Brazil.

00:54:49.000 My YouTube channel had like 1 million people, over 1 million people there.

00:54:54.000 My Twitter account, 1.4 million people, just to give you an idea, and all other platforms.

00:54:59.000 And one day I woke with everything blocked and plus all my assets in Brazil, all my assets and bank accounts were frozen.

00:55:06.000 Plus he issued a fine every time I stated any fake news, which I think, I believe I've never did in my life, but it depends on what you think.

00:55:16.000 Right.

00:55:18.000 So that's that's my relationship with him.

00:55:19.000 And I have been like that for a year and a half now.

00:55:22.000 Well, and let me ask you this, because you said de facto dictator Marias.

00:55:24.000 Now he's a Supreme Court judge.

00:55:26.000 So the president there, former criminal until the Supreme Court said, ah, we're not gonna do that anymore.

00:55:31.000 Lula.

00:55:33.000 What's the relationship then between Marias and Lula?

00:55:35.000 It sounds like you're saying he might be in a greater position of control than the president.

00:55:40.000 Oh, he definitely is.

00:55:41.000 And it's not me saying that, right?

00:55:44.000 Elon Musk said that he pretty much controls Lula.

00:55:48.000 And it's interesting because a few months ago, Lula's party supported a bill in the U.S., in the Brazilian Senate, saying that, giving some limitations to the Supreme Court.

00:56:03.000 And the Supreme Court justices went nuts and they started sending WhatsApp messages to journalists on mainstream media saying, look, we allow him to go back to power.

00:56:16.000 So he was like, he can't turn against us.

00:56:20.000 We defend the democracy.

00:56:21.000 We guarantee his election.

00:56:23.000 So they brag about it.

00:56:25.000 They brag about the fact that they brought him to power.

00:56:30.000 And if you look at the Twitter files, Brazil, which they were released last week, it's undeniable that Demarais played a key role censoring conservatives and therefore favoring Lula's election.

00:56:44.000 And even when I was on TV, I used to get orders from the court saying, you can't say this, you can't say that, you can't say that, like, and this isn't heard of.

00:56:56.000 Right.

00:56:57.000 I couldn't say that Lula was unconvicted because this is, this is a little, it was us being smart asses in a sense, because he was convicted and then he was not found not guilty.

00:57:09.000 He was unconvicted by the court.

00:57:11.000 I couldn't say he was an ally of a Venezuelan dictatorship.

00:57:16.000 I couldn't say he was an ally of the Nicaragua dictator.

00:57:20.000 So I couldn't say stuff like that on air by court orders.

00:57:24.000 Wow.

00:57:25.000 And we saw that that was happening in an even broader scale on all social media.

00:57:29.000 Twitter was the one that we have access to the files, but it was happening on all social media.

00:57:34.000 Can I ask you something?

00:57:34.000 Because you were on television for a very long time.

00:57:38.000 That means you were obviously broadcasting when Bolsonaro was in office.

00:57:42.000 And you've talked about these orders coming straight to you.

00:57:44.000 Any of them ever come from Bolsonaro, the supposed fascist, saying you can't say that if you were critical of him or any of his colleagues?

00:57:51.000 Ever?

00:57:52.000 No, I actually used to criticize Bolsonaro a lot.

00:57:55.000 A lot of my viewers didn't like it, but I think it's part of my job.

00:57:59.000 But I try to be fair with him, which is unique in the mainstream media.

00:58:03.000 Like, here in the U.S., you can criticize Donald Trump, but you don't need to lie about it.

00:58:10.000 But the other journalists, I mean, the mainstream media in Brazil is not just as bad as in the U.S.

00:58:16.000 It's way worse than in the U.S.

00:58:19.000 And the amount of lies they spread against Bolsonaro is unbelievable.

00:58:26.000 And most of them were proven fake news, like false, throughout the time.

00:58:33.000 And Bolsonaro never did anything to them.

00:58:36.000 To the point that some people said he deserved to die, just like we saw in the U.S.

00:58:41.000 with Trump.

00:58:42.000 The same thing in Brazil.

00:58:43.000 We had mainstream newspapers with a column saying, well, I wish Bolsonaro was dead and stuff like that.

00:58:51.000 And nothing happened to no one.

00:58:54.000 Right.

00:58:55.000 And to be fair, and I have to be absolutely, I've been in this game for a long time, and I've been in this game before Bolsonaro, and during the first run of the Workers' Party, the Socialist Party, Lula and Dilma in power, and I criticized them heavily without fear.

00:59:12.000 And now, in Brazil, everyone is Terrified.

00:59:16.000 I mean, members of Congress, whatever is left on the press, even the more moderate leftist journalists, they're terrified of criticizing Demarais.

00:59:27.000 Not Lula!

00:59:28.000 We can criticize Lula.

00:59:29.000 We cannot criticize Demarais or the Supreme Court.

00:59:32.000 That's called an attack on the institutions, an attack on democracy, and spreading misinformation.

00:59:39.000 And therefore, although there's nothing under Brazilian law against that, they can throw you in prison.

00:59:44.000 And they have.

00:59:45.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 What's really scary, I mean, you know, in South America, sort of, you know, coups happen all the time.

00:59:50.000 It's just kind of pick a country and pick a span of five years.

00:59:53.000 It doesn't matter if you're going to go Colombia this year, you're going to go Chile, you're going to go Bolsonaro, you're going to go Brazil, is what they would try and say.

00:59:59.000 I know you guys had one in the 1960s, I believe, and I know there were sort of semi-coups since then.

01:00:04.000 That happens quite a bit.

01:00:05.000 And Brazil It's an interesting place because it seemed like it was going one direction.

01:00:10.000 Like I said, I know a lot of Brazilians.

01:00:13.000 Every single one of them was a very big Bolsonaro supporter.

01:00:17.000 I knew one who wasn't, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, you may know him, was a journalist.

01:00:22.000 And I would be curious to see his thoughts now because I asked him about Lula.

01:00:25.000 I didn't ask him about Marias.

01:00:28.000 How does one, because there are 11 justices, right?

01:00:28.000 Let me ask you this.

01:00:31.000 If I'm not mistaken there on your Supreme Court in Brazil?

01:00:34.000 Correct.

01:00:35.000 How does one person, one single justice, I mean, this is the reason that your passport was revoked, this is the reason that your bank accounts were frozen, that your social media, that you were deplatformed, this is the person involved with Twitter files, right?

01:00:46.000 It all goes back to Mariah's.

01:00:48.000 How does one, going after that magazine, how does one justice, when there are 11, have that kind of unilateral power to get accounts removed and entire platforms?

01:00:58.000 Well, he has a lot of support.

01:01:00.000 And just so you know, it's very rare to see a jujitsu practitioner that's leftist.

01:01:05.000 That's very rare.

01:01:06.000 It's very rare.

01:01:07.000 It's very rare.

01:01:07.000 Yes.

01:01:08.000 You know why?

01:01:09.000 Because they're individuals.

01:01:10.000 I know.

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 Yes.

01:01:11.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 They believe in personal strength and solving things.

01:01:15.000 And it's very interesting.

01:01:18.000 But that said, Morice has a lot of support.

01:01:22.000 And he has support, global support.

01:01:24.000 I mean, really global support.

01:01:27.000 to the fact that the United States directly interfered on Brazilian elections.

01:01:33.000 And this is not a conspiracy theory.

01:01:35.000 That's on mainstream media that Joe Biden sent the Secretary of Defense, the Director

01:01:40.000 of CIA, the Advisor for International Affairs to Brazil to exert pressure on public officials,

01:01:47.000 including generals, including politicians, including bureaucrats, to not contest the

01:01:53.000 electoral result if Lula won.

01:01:56.000 So, and Biden was the first one to recognize Lula immediately after he won the election.

01:02:05.000 Right.

01:02:06.000 And that's direct interference.

01:02:08.000 And we have reports of that on mainstream media.

01:02:13.000 It puzzles me, actually it doesn't, but I'll pretend it does, that it puzzles me why.

01:02:19.000 Why the Department of State is supporting a guy that's very anti-American?

01:02:24.000 Because all Lula's policy was very anti-American.

01:02:28.000 Sure.

01:02:29.000 Lula is pro-Hamas. 0.96

01:02:30.000 Lula is pro-China like crazy.

01:02:34.000 He's pro-Iran.

01:02:36.000 We've been docking Iranian warships in the Brazilian ports.

01:02:39.000 He's pro-Venezuela.

01:02:41.000 He's pro-the drug cartels in South America.

01:02:45.000 He's undermining the dollars on the BRICS.

01:02:47.000 He's trying to make the yuan, the international currency for trades.

01:02:53.000 Why do the Biden administration support that?

01:02:56.000 It's almost like they hate America.

01:02:59.000 It's almost like it's the same party of people who supported Chavez.

01:03:03.000 It's almost like it defies reason.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, Nick, you have a question?

01:03:06.000 And he said, if I'm following this right, Lula is sort of behind the scenes controlling Marias?

01:03:13.000 Marias is the one behind the scenes.

01:03:14.000 He's a Supreme Court Justice.

01:03:16.000 Lula is the President.

01:03:17.000 It's sort of the same dynamic, I thought, as Biden being controlled by...

01:03:20.000 Yeah, by the way.

01:03:21.000 So Lula and his allies, they appointed, so Moraes was appointed by the vice president of Dilma Rousseff, which was the successor of Lula, of Lula's party.

01:03:33.000 Dilma was impeached for defrauding public accounts, so she was impeached.

01:03:39.000 And then this guy, Temer, which was more of a centrist guy, he took office and then he appointed Moraes.

01:03:47.000 So if you take out of 11, nine were appointed by the left in Brazil.

01:03:54.000 Wow.

01:03:54.000 So that's why they can do whatever they want.

01:03:58.000 But they have a lot of support.

01:03:59.000 They have support from the globalist, Poha. 0.95

01:04:02.000 He did, he said it wrong, yeah.

01:04:04.000 In English, you say with an H, like a Poha. 1.00

01:04:08.000 I'm from Boston.

01:04:10.000 I'm from Boston.

01:04:11.000 I couldn't get that word right in a million years.

01:04:12.000 No, that's right.

01:04:14.000 You're from Souch.

01:04:16.000 Souch, boss.

01:04:17.000 It's okay, later we hold.

01:04:18.000 Not like a Kennedy, poha.

01:04:19.000 We're going to hold together with the brothers Valenche.

01:04:23.000 It is rare, by the way, like you talk about too, with Jiu Jitsu guys.

01:04:26.000 That's kind of the community.

01:04:27.000 I think that's why we have a significant viewership in Brazil.

01:04:29.000 We're going to start translating some of our content To Portuguese, because, you know, obviously appearing on Joe Rogan and being involved to some degree in the mixed martial arts community, it's a very strong sort of rugged individualist community.

01:04:42.000 And I see a real populist groundswell or have been for a while there with Bolsonaro.

01:04:49.000 And it was very surprising to me to see this shift.

01:04:53.000 And it just made me very aware that it seems like it's a shift in spite of public sentiment, not as a byproduct of it.

01:04:58.000 And I see a lot of the similarities, you know, with what they've done.

01:05:02.000 They just accuse Bolsonaro and people on the right of being exactly what they are.

01:05:06.000 They accuse him of being a fascist while they silence journalists and try and get people removed.

01:05:10.000 They accuse him of not being willing to relinquish power while they effectively appoint a shadow government, right?

01:05:16.000 That's what they've done here in the United States. 0.97

01:05:17.000 They've said Donald Trump is a fascist.

01:05:19.000 Well, fascists don't typically lower your taxes and give you more access to firearms if you're a law-abiding citizen.

01:05:26.000 Or arrest your political opponents.

01:05:28.000 Right.

01:05:28.000 Well, exactly.

01:05:29.000 That's what we see.

01:05:29.000 This guy has a black belt in corruption, is what he's got.

01:05:32.000 That's exactly what he is.

01:05:34.000 A lot of similarities.

01:05:35.000 And yeah, I think a big reason that they would all hate America is because the idea of America would be to safeguard checks and balances, to act as a stand against corruption.

01:05:45.000 And, of course, they want to destroy those checks and balances while demanding that people recognize and respect the institutions that they falsely prop up—education, they want to pack the court.

01:05:55.000 Let me ask you this, because I want to continue on Mug Club, which is, of course, powered by Locals. 0.98

01:06:00.000 You know what?

01:06:00.000 Let's do that.

01:06:01.000 You guys follow on xRealPFigurado.

01:06:03.000 You can go and follow him.

01:06:05.000 What's your URL for Locals and Rumble?

01:06:07.000 And we'll continue this on Mug Club.

01:06:10.000 Oh, it's pfiguerido.locals.com and Paulo Figueiredo, my name, is on my channel on Rumble.

01:06:17.000 And people can support me on Locals if they think it's worth it as well.

01:06:20.000 Absolutely.

01:06:21.000 Locals is still honoring everything.

01:06:23.000 They're still sending all the support.

01:06:25.000 It's just that Brazilians can't access through the website.

01:06:28.000 They can still do it through the app, though.

01:06:29.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.000 So I'm still there.

01:06:31.000 I'm still posting on Locals.

01:06:32.000 I know, but, you know, look, I appreciate you taking the risk because I know, I know that you take a hit and standing there saying, yeah, but morally, This is something we have to do.

01:06:41.000 We've got to be taking a stand now.

01:06:42.000 Rumble could have just removed you and a few Brazilian creators, right? 1.00

01:06:45.000 They had that option. 0.99

01:06:46.000 Either way, you're kind of up shit creek. 0.74

01:06:48.000 I'm sorry, but they decided to say, no, we're not going to comply and hopefully we see more people emboldened like we see with Elon Musk and X. 0.97

01:06:56.000 Stay right there, Mr. Figueredo.

01:06:58.000 Also, if you search Paola, sorry, Paolo.

01:07:02.000 I knew a Paola, but it's a very common name.

01:07:03.000 There's Paolo, the Paola.

01:07:04.000 I get it.

01:07:05.000 I know so many Silvas, and I know so many Paolos or Paolas.

01:07:08.000 It's like John over there.

01:07:09.000 We'll make sure your URL's in the description.

01:07:11.000 Let's continue with Mr. Figueredo on Mug Club.

01:07:13.000 If you're watching on Rumble, you can click, join right there, continue watching.

01:07:18.000 And YouTube, I don't know if we're still there today, probably shouldn't be.

01:07:21.000 Piss off.

01:07:30.000 When are you going to stop watching that Lotto with Crowder show so I can have a turn on the TV? 0.97

Louder with Crowder - April 10, 2024

SUPER EPISODE: Guests Alex Jones on CIA & Silenced Journalist Paulo Figueiredo on Brazil vs. Elon

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