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00:05:33.000Because it looks like the fat pride movement is dying and the killer is ozempic.
00:05:40.000Yeah. With a candelabra from the dining room, it seems.
00:05:45.000So we're going to be talking about that and more, but we have to move pretty quickly because Vince is going to be on the show and then he has to be ushered over to his radio show.
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00:06:54.000We're going to be talking about health across the board.
00:06:55.000You won't believe what's happening in San Francisco.
00:06:57.000We also have a 7 Plus 1, by the way, because Bruce Springsteen has a new album, and I know I'll offend some people out there because you're a fan of The Boss.
00:07:04.000I think he's a talentless, bumbling bag of human shit.
00:07:29.000So if you think that you need to be in shape as a personal trainer, and this is kind of a theme right now because a lot of people are talking about Ozempic.
00:07:40.000But I would say that I'm glad a little bit that our conversation has shifted to, hey, what can you accomplish with diet and exercise versus a pharmaceutical intervention from any size is healthy.
00:07:58.000So if you thought that personal trainers, meaning people in the business of helping you become ideally healthy or getting you in better shape, should be in shape themselves, Well, you're not living in the post-modern everything is beautiful era because this personal trainer wants to let you know the fat fitness experts are the best fitness experts.
00:08:19.000If you're a fat personal trainer, you should be executed.
00:08:23.000One of my favorite things is when the trash takes itself out.
00:11:51.000Certainly, I guarantee if he's doing that it wouldn't be muscle gained, wouldn't be body fat percentage, wouldn't be VO2 max, wouldn't be cardiovascular ability, wouldn't be stamina, wouldn't be strength.
00:12:14.000It comes out of I don't want to be trained by the before picture.
00:12:28.000Exactly! I want you to show me the before picture and be like, look what I did!
00:12:31.000And be like, oh crap, you know what you're doing!
00:12:33.000Yes! I want to be trained by the middle picture.
00:12:36.000You know when they show the transformation, like day 30, day 60, and then they go to the end and they're like, no, no, no, that's too shredded.
00:12:55.000So the self-described body positive fitness trainer Roy Belzer Then he also has some videos out there as far as what he does how he trains you Here's a music video boy with him showing some of his parlor tricks It's an extra-large shirt by the way All
00:13:29.000of a sudden I know what hit me in, Mark.
00:14:30.000She was kind of gross back then, like eight years ago.
00:14:34.000Lena Dunham epically shut down internet trolls on the gram who are obsessing over her recent weight loss.
00:14:41.000Writing in part, I feel I've made it pretty clear over the years that I don't give even the tiniest of shits what anyone else feels about my body.
00:14:49.000Yeah, that's actually when she lost weight because she said she couldn't eat when Donald Trump first became president.
00:14:54.000So she was a little bit chubby before that, saying, I'm proud of my body.
00:15:58.000Jeez. Here's actually what, I believe this is him, yeah, writing for Men's Health.
00:16:03.000He said, from around the time I was 17 years old until I was 22, I've had back and forth battles with anorexia, bulimia, well you screwed up.
00:18:45.000Couldn't you have stopped somewhere else on the body positivity chart?
00:18:48.000I think he was in the middle ground when he was showing those photos of him at a smaller size and he's doing burpees and he's doing all these different exercises.
00:18:54.000Yep. I mean, sure, don't do the bulimia, don't do the anorexia, don't torture your body, but I mean, you maintain a healthy diet and keep exercising like that.
00:19:07.000And especially when you're talking about an entire half of this country who believes in socialized healthcare, and that we, you, the American worker, the American taxpayer, should foot the bill.
00:19:15.000Again, socialized healthcare, wherever it exists in the modern world, in the western world, you're paying for it.
00:19:20.000You're paying for it because they don't have to pay for their own national defense.
00:19:23.000Let's not underestimate that but if we had in the United States, okay How do we how do we offset the costs?
00:19:29.000Shouldn't I don't know if you know this.
00:19:31.000Communism, when it's been practiced, they culled the weak and the obese.
00:19:36.000If they saw you as obese in Stalin's Russia or Mao's China, you were used as fuel.
00:19:42.000You were like whale fat to light their lamps.
00:19:44.000You understand, they're like, no, no, no, no, how do we have fat?
00:19:46.000Communism, they must go beyond ration.
00:20:44.000I think if the choice is someone who is morbidly obese and Ozempic helps them get down to a healthy weight as a tool.
00:20:52.000Yeah. The risks, actually, I would say the benefits outweigh the risks, but I don't like the idea of it being just used as a drug to lose a few pounds or to get a skinnier face, as you see in Hollywood.
00:21:03.000So before Ozempic, Megan Trainor wrote these lyrics, I'm bringing booty back.
00:21:08.000Go ahead and tell them skinny bitches that.
00:22:28.000As a matter of fact, she didn't even think that mid-sized women should be included, you skinny bitch.
00:22:33.000Now that body positivity has been co-opted by all bodies, And people are finally celebrating medium and small girls and people who occasionally get roles.
00:22:45.000Fat people are still getting the short end of this movement.
00:24:07.000More access to information and more ignorant.
00:24:10.000More access to healthy foods and the ability to not only train, but the ability to learn how to with new media and readily accessible gyms.
00:25:41.000Is it more work, is it harder to lose weight or to gain strength than it is to stay your current size?
00:25:49.000That should be a pretty good indicator.
00:25:51.000If someone is vilifying hard work that can only result in a net positive and isn't harming anyone else, that should be a good litmus test for you, where the person telling you it's a bad thing is lying to you and justifying their own poor decisions, which by the way, is selfish, is selfish, because you're putting yourself out there as a model to emulate.
00:26:50.000Someone who's blunt, someone who's insensitive, someone who's overly confident, and the gendered insult, pussy, means you're weak, you're meek, right?
00:27:00.000These are the negative qualities, sort of the feminine characteristic, and these are the negative qualities of the male characteristic.
00:27:05.000But what's funny is, I actually see far more men with healthy egos than I do women in 2025, and you'll see that here in this video.
00:27:13.000So this is a video, it's a lot of fun to watch, where someone pitted ultra fit women, one of whom is at least, one of whom is at least on testosterone and steroids, against completely average guys off the couch to see who was stronger.
00:27:27.000And the funniest part is that to the women, it was a surprise!
00:27:30.000"Leah Thomas pulling away over the final 150 meters.
00:28:44.000After this, I guarantee you those guys hung out by the beach, they made a sandcastle, drank beers, and they all bitched about each other and gossiped and they're no longer friends.
00:31:08.000The left, sometimes I'm just convinced this sounds conspiratorial, they want to see how far they can push a lie for you to believe it.
00:31:12.000Whether it's masks, whether it's six feet social distancing, whether it's it came from a wet market, or it's women can do anything men can do, or you can be healthy at any body type.
00:31:22.000The problem is some people believe it.
00:31:24.000This woman, her ego is only hurt because she believed a lie.
00:33:48.000She's a specimen and he's not And by the way, you know he's hit some other women you can tell Listen to this first of all, I think I acted more like a lady or maybe more like a man instead of Joey throwing me around a couple times Play like that then we'll put him in my ring and we'll go by my rules Oh, you mean the man who you're upset about wrestling you and throwing you, you now want to have a wrestling match?
00:35:04.000I'm just gonna check out because now dating requires that young men are In on a lie and go along with it It requires that society go along with the lie that my god gender is a social construct and women are just as strong as men and Then even if you're a man and you prove someone wrong, but if you go was vilified for that Everybody was pissed at him.
00:35:26.000Everybody was mad at him for proving what he you know, yeah, we're trying to find out but Yes, exactly.
00:35:31.000And we're going to talk about that more, by the way, on today.
00:35:33.000If you are not a Rumble Premium member, none of this takes place without you.
00:37:06.000The left is going to try and be covert now about their radical leftism.
00:37:09.000Remember, the Georgia House members walked out because Republicans voted against providing sex change surgeries for violent inmates, right?
00:37:17.000That's who they are, but they'll try and tell you no one cares about these issues.
00:37:20.000They'll try and tell you, no, no, no, we're actually moderate.
00:37:22.000Don't ask yourself, what does the current Democrat Party do today?
00:37:27.000Ask yourself, what would they do if they achieved unfettered power?
00:37:34.000I mean, you can look to Canada, but in the United States, pretty close, you can look to San Francisco.
00:37:38.000You have unbelievable crime in a city that was once beautiful.
00:37:41.000You have actual human feces on the streets.
00:37:44.000You have aggressive vagrants everywhere.
00:37:47.000But now, they've just proposed a new law, or a new series of laws or proposals, that will fine you more if you are rich, white, and privileged.
00:40:06.000Really? Yeah, when you say that, but you're allowing people to steal up to $950 and poop in the streets to the point where a third-party app needs to be developed, it sounds more like you're trying to collect money from people and buy votes, especially when you take into account that now in San Francisco, people will be fined by their income level.
00:40:33.000So, you actually get a 50% discount on the fine if you make $31,000 a year or less.
00:41:43.000If we believe that taxation is a good tool to incentivize or un-incentivize behavior, for example, we tax cigarettes more, New York wanted to tax big gulps more, unhealthy food more, right? We know this.
00:42:04.000In other words, we want to incentivize people or we want to punish people for making more?
00:42:11.000And, hold on a second, why doesn't it apply to homelessness here?
00:42:15.000This is going to sound cruel, but let me go with you.
00:42:18.000If you actually wanted to use the tax code, as the left does, as a method of engineering society, you would tax people less the more they made.
00:42:27.000You would actually discount the fine if someone's a homeowner.
00:42:32.000Because you'd be encouraging homeownership!
00:42:35.000And instead, we're rewarding people for making less, for contributing less.
00:42:39.000We're rewarding people for not being homeowners.
00:42:41.000Now, I'm not blaming people for not making enough income, or making a smaller income.
00:42:46.000I'm not blaming people for being homeless.
00:42:48.000What I'm saying is, as a society, when you structure the laws this way, you will have more homeless.
00:44:55.000Look at, by the way, I mean, look at China.
00:44:57.000Look at any communist nation, or look at any...
00:45:00.000When I did a video on Detroit, Detroit and ruins, it was one of the first sort of On the ground reporting undercover investigations, you know, done online, I think 2009.
00:45:09.000People weren't really doing it back then.
00:45:10.000I had to fit a, I had to fit an old Pentax camera in a trucker's hat.
00:45:14.000I said if the left had their way, if Barack Obama had all those policies tomorrow, it would mirror Detroit.
00:45:21.000Give the left power over a city, and it's just, you know what people would argue back then?
00:47:35.000And I believe we actually do have our guest in the line, but before that, just to let you know, Bruce Springsteen is releasing a new album, so this week, seven plus one things we'd rather be doing than listen to the new Bruce Springsteen album.
00:47:45.000That will be on, uh, for Rumble Premium viewers later.
00:47:49.000And actually, that's a good thing, because a lot of this...
00:48:02.000You actually probably just watched him a few minutes ago, right before this, because you watch him, then me, and then you go over to Tim Pool.
00:48:07.000Let's welcome to the show, Vince, it's hard for me to say his last name.
00:48:47.000Yeah, it is fun to keep them on the phone and troll them.
00:48:49.000Now, Vince, of course, people can follow you on X and your show is live on the Rebel Lineup right before us from 10 a.m. Eastern through 11 Eastern.
00:49:36.000And so what happened was Dan calls me about a week before the announcement's made public and we start kind of scheming what's going to happen next.
00:49:43.000And it was basically Willy Wonka approaching Charlie and saying, Charlie?
00:49:47.000Would you like to take over the chocolate factory?
00:49:49.000Yes. And my answer to that is, obviously.
00:49:52.000I mean, Charlie would be an idiot to say no to that.
00:49:55.000So I said, yeah, I'll take over the chocolate factory.
00:49:58.000Did you also have a prick grandfather who fakes that he was a cripple while you worked in gross violation of child labor practices for the last decade?
00:50:05.000Yes. Yeah, I learned a lot about my family through this process.
00:50:44.000Yeah, remember when Rush died, the 12 to 3 slot nationwide, everyone had to figure out what to do, and then Dan Bongino stepped up into the role.
00:50:51.000And so after Dan left, I'm doing both the podcast and I now do the nationwide radio show starting at noon.
00:50:58.000A lot of it's going to be on the tariff fight today.
00:51:01.000And I was, you know, one thing I was like, I was listening to your whole show, which is great.
00:51:05.000And I was thinking about kind of the left's posture of hysteria and mediocrity and like the way they respond to everything.
00:51:12.000It's always like, oh, just like give me the easiest possible answer here.
00:51:15.000Meanwhile, like for those of us on the right, for those of us who voted for Trump in the first place, who promised to bring this kind of fight on behalf of our country, I'm sitting here happy as a clam.
00:51:24.000Yeah. I think Trump Trump's got a lot of confidence right now.
00:51:41.000Somebody's got to take a risk here because we've been getting screwed over forever.
00:51:44.000And finally, Trump, who's ran his entire career, not just his political career, ran his entire career on this issue, said we got to fix this.
00:51:54.000Yeah, I think you're exactly- and now you work- I know you worked at the Daily Caller, which of course Tucker helped found there, and I'm interested to hear kind of your thoughts on this, because Tucker, you know, was CNN crossfire, bowtie, like libertarian era Tucker, where it would have been very, very anti-tariff, and there's been obviously a transition to more conservative sort of populist, I guess is how he's described himself, I don't want to misrepresent him, but certainly not the think tank libertarian that he once was.
00:52:16.000Right. Were you that way, being a Daily Caller at any point, or have you been more traditional conservative?
00:52:21.000Like, would you have ever been sort of anti-tariff?
00:52:23.000Before? Probably, but maybe just sort of reflexively, not because it was from any sort of deep, thoughtful territory.
00:52:31.000I like to think that hopefully, over the course of all of our lives, we become more thoughtful about this and we have better explanations for why we're here.
00:52:41.000Tucker had the libertarian position because his impulse is that he wants to keep the government out of his life, which is great.
00:52:48.000That's the position that you should have instinctively.
00:52:50.000But as life goes on, and when you talk about what does it mean to conserve something, if you're a conservative, what are you conserving if your entire country is evaporating before your very eyes?
00:52:58.000Yeah. You're not conserving anything, actually.
00:53:01.000And the libertarian side of the party, if you want to call it that, the kind of the Koch brothers' wing of the world, they were kicking open our borders and importing cheap labor and diminishing our communities.
00:53:12.000So how is that conserving the United States of America?
00:53:19.000I think his evolution has been really smart and well-reasoned.
00:53:23.000And so, in that sense, I was always very happy to work alongside him.
00:53:26.000It's been a great, great 15 years working with him.
00:53:28.000I was, I never identified as a libertarian, but I always said my views would probably be considered more libertarian.
00:53:35.000And so, yeah, at one point I would have been, like you said, reflexively, because free trade is a great idea, until you realize that it's not actually free trade, right?
00:53:42.000And what changed me Two conversations.
00:53:45.000I was at some kind of a dinner in Washington, D.C., and I was around a bunch of people from Reason Magazine, and it's like a libertarian, the foremost publication, and I realized that the majority of them voted for Obama.
00:54:22.000Like, okay, I understand, but that doesn't mean that just legalizing heroin for everybody is going to have anything other than catastrophic ill effects.
00:54:30.000And so I stopped being a libertarian somewhere around, like, maybe 22, where I thought, yeah, okay, I guess I'm a fascist.
00:54:39.000Basically, it's whenever you hit adulthood, whatever age that is.
00:54:42.000If it's 22, if it's 30, when you become an adult, you graduate from libertarian thinking.
00:54:47.000And the reason for that is because at its core, libertarian thinking is like kind of easy, sort of like, almost like the left-wing phenomenon you were describing.
00:54:55.000You just like give up on political debates.
00:54:57.000You're just like, I don't think the government should tax you, and I don't think there's any social issue worth defending.
00:55:02.000Right. Okay, you're just trying to get laid.
00:55:04.000You're not actually trying to devise a political ideology.
00:55:08.000You're just saying whatever makes everybody in the room happy with you.
00:55:11.000Yes, and then Gary Johnson came along and I was like, oh, it's a party of closeted homosexuals who talk about Bitcoin and weed.
00:55:19.000Dude, we had Gary Johnson stop by the office.
00:55:21.000We did an editorial meeting with Gary Johnson when he was running for president.
00:55:24.000He was an easier presidential candidate to get to stop by for.
00:55:27.000And we would say, we'd ask him, like, hey, what's your limiting principle?
00:55:32.000Like, if you really want to, like, play with the libertarian, be like, OK, so you think anybody can do anything?
00:55:43.000And he's like, well, I swear to you, he said this, he goes, I don't want the headline that comes out of this meeting to be that Gary Johnson supports polygamy.
00:56:26.000I said, I think you're saying that men and women are fundamentally interchangeable, there's no intrinsic value, and it's about how we want to raise children, a nuclear family, a form of self-governance, and I think you need a mom and a dad, so if you guys want to have property sharing, you want to put someone on your will, sure, a civil union, but that's why we have marriage, so no I don't.
00:56:41.000And for him to realize like it didn't come from a position of hatred, I think might have been the first time he had encountered that.
00:56:48.000Also, in my view, it's not even a government thing.
00:56:51.000It's a religious sacrament, in my view.
00:56:53.000So, like, why is the government involved in this question at all?
00:56:56.000In my church, I'm a Catholic, in my church, it's men and women get married because it's literally a sacrament that brings you closer to God.
00:58:53.000And it's like, I think most people in this country are going, yeah, I don't think anyone should go to prison for weed and I think states should have the right to legalize it.
00:58:57.000There's some medical uses here, but it doesn't cure cancer and the Wake and Bake billboards probably shouldn't be a thing if we also have a culture that vilifies alcoholism.
00:59:06.000I think it's a pretty, and don't drive high, but Once Upon a Time, that was pretty controversial because I'm paid, you know me, Mr. Big Pharma.
00:59:15.000Well, I just want to say, again, to reflect on the show that you did today, I love all the stuff about the left's incoherence, especially on this body positivity stuff that you're talking about.
00:59:25.000Like, they've been telling us for years we need to embrace fatness as some sort of social good.
00:59:29.000But meanwhile, They're also, nowadays, they're a body negativity movement.
00:59:33.000They tell people that they're born in the wrong body and they need to turn themselves over to the pharmaceutical industry to chop it up.
00:59:39.000So, as in all cases, they're completely incoherent and detecting that incoherence is a reason, is a way to remind you that they're on the wrong side and you're on the right side.
00:59:50.000Well, they'll say that a bodybuilder or an athlete has body dysmorphia if he goes like, ah, I want to change this, where he's being judged on his body.
00:59:55.000And by the way, I think these people are narcissistic, but it's not body dysmorphia.
00:59:58.000You're actually seeing a score from it.
01:00:01.000Meanwhile, someone who looks in the mirror and says, actually, I don't have that penis, which meets the definition of body dysmorphia.
01:00:09.000You are actually viewing yourself in an unrealistic way.
01:01:43.000Yeah, let's also stop stigmatizing people if they go to an Italian restaurant, and they're like, no, I don't want the branzino, I want the spaghetti bolognese.
01:02:18.000Before we sit, we're going to send you to Tim Pool, if you are not a member of Rumble Premium, and for those of you who are Rumble Premium, we have a 7 plus 1. Based on the new good news, Bruce Springsteen is releasing a new album.
01:02:32.000Don't throw up in your mouth a little.