Comedian Amy Poehler ( ) joins Jemele to discuss her new book, The Biggest Loser, a memoir about her time as a stand-up comic. She also talks about how she got her start in comedy and how she became a comedian.
00:00:41.000Also, by the way, Gates, just to be clear, his comments were not specifically directed at her.
00:00:46.000The View was the one who did that, and so people think he was personally attacking her, which by the way, I have no problem with, but he actually wasn't.
00:01:48.000You get to reap what you've sown in that they're so crazy.
00:01:52.000You kind of just get to sit back and let them do their thing.
00:01:55.000and now everyone's going to know that what you've been saying for decades, all the missed opportunities, all the doors closed because you were too radical, everyone's going to know it's true because they say it.
00:02:03.000As long as they have a tribute for me at my funeral or some shit.
00:03:46.000It's just funny to me where it's like, okay., the negative stereotype of Democrats are that they are perpetual college activists, gender queer, who are gross, right, homely, unkempt, and then the DNC says, yeah, let's send one out to reach young men.
00:04:02.000And you know what, at the same time, let's demonize the hot girl, Sydney Sweeney, and say that's racist.
00:04:07.000Let's just tell white men that what you want is racist, and we don't want to be involved with the things that you and we'll try and force feed them abroad like this, and they wonder why it doesn't work.
00:04:19.000That's how you know it's not about politics.
00:04:21.000I always say this about these ugly left wing liberals abroad.
00:04:24.000They're pissed at how they were made by God.
00:04:43.000And this stuff bubbles up in school when they get picked on and they carry it the rest of their lives and it turns and they go to the Democratic Party for help.
00:07:50.000I'm just going to be even more weird despite you trying to tell me that everyone else should accept that I can't change the rest of the world.
00:08:16.000I'm just afraid of competing with black people, even though I have higigher SAT scores, even though I have higher scores in high school and I'm more extracurricular, okay, just take a back seat because I'm a white guy, okay, I got it.
00:08:59.000If you followed all of the advice from the left, and I mean this, you would have a worse life.
00:09:06.000I would be surprised if you didn't end up contemplating suicide.
00:09:09.000Now, contrast that with, let's just use Vance as an example.
00:09:13.000Hey, I'm from a small town or I'm from the inner city.
00:09:16.000I'm thick, I'm out of shape, I don't have a father, my parents, uh, who I do have, or step parents, are addicted to drugs, there are no economic prospects here since the mine closed down.
00:10:20.000Let's just look at the results objectively.
00:10:24.000Someone's reading the self-help book, all the advice, the proposed prescriptions from today's left, and someone's reading a self-help book, all of the advice and proposed prescription from traditional conservative America.
00:10:39.000Which one's going to give you a life worth living?
00:10:54.000knew to actually codify it into practice to codify hey you because God gives you free will because you are allowed to make your own decisions because you are not to bow to a to bow to a king you can make your own decisions life liberty pursuit of happiness that's we're going to codify this to make sure that you can do it you can read Marcus Aurelius you can read meditations one of my favorite books you can read it in an afternoon If you want an answer to what ails you,
00:11:23.000it's, hey, why do you give these other people power over you?
00:11:32.000Do your intense activities at the beginning of the day.
00:11:35.000Make a plan, stick to it, and accept that you may not get the rewards that you anticipate, but do it because it's the right thing to do.
00:11:42.000And if you do that consistently, you're going to look back and find yourself better off than the people who didn't think about doing the right thing to do.
00:11:50.000Self Help book from the Democratic Party, the DNC Youth Summit, Self Help book from this show or from the Conservative Wing of America, which one makes your life better?
00:12:02.000No wonder the Democrats are losing territory with Gen Z. And look, if you find yourself being a liberal fat piece of crap still, and diet and exercise are not enough.
00:12:10.000Ask your doctor if Nick Zempic is right for you.
00:13:36.000Anywhere from middle to upper middle class, some actually lower middle class, but working class.
00:13:42.000Lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, to wealthy, excluding the Jeff Bezos of the world, the billionaires of the world.
00:13:50.000overwhelmingly Republican, meaning someone who works and pays maybe a couple grand in taxes because they don't have that much to take home.
00:13:57.000If they are working, if they are paying anything in taxes, they're going to, you can bet your life if you had to, playing the odds games, they're going to vote Republican.
00:14:06.000Democrat down here, people who will will never contribute, who only want handouts.
00:14:12.000Democrats, people who want the same handouts, the corporate welfare that you see, the Walmarts of the world, the Amazons of the world who loved COVID lockdown policy.
00:15:00.000And it's out of this false compassion.
00:15:02.000Well, that's because without, without the support of a man in their life, they would be that group that doesn't pay 43% income tax.
00:15:09.000Because liberal white women tend to get useless degrees and don't find employment, but they have a sugar daddy.
00:15:13.000And so they're protected and insulated.
00:15:15.000They go from dad, their real daddy, to new daddy, who they, you know, 70% of the filings they divorce.
00:15:22.000So they're insulated from the horrors of the world they haven't had to make make it through.
00:15:25.000Just think of a JD Vance what he had to go through.
00:15:28.000Just think of a Hegaseth what he had to go through.
00:15:30.000Just think, look, I'll say it's not killing people, but Nick, myself, do you have any idea how many times I've just slept on a couch or be in God knows where, United States for fifty bucks a pop for a gig to try and that's not the same as someone who takes out a student loan that they don't believe they have to pay back to get a gender studies degree.
00:15:48.000And I'm sorry, it's definitely more of a struggle than a black American in the inner city who's never worked or a Native American on a reservation who's never worked.
00:15:58.000Definitely, I, Gerald, Nick, people in here have faced more struggles than I have ever faced.
00:16:04.000The problem is that you blame people for overcoming it and you say, Yeah, it must be nice.
00:16:33.000Shouldn't the general philosophy with divorce slash alimony be if my money wasn't, jeez, wasn't enough for you to stay, you don't need it when you leave.
00:17:14.000So wife is not really kind of doing that part of the equation, which a lot of people would say, okay, that'ss what you're in this relationship, like, I love you, I want to have a great life with you, I want to have kids and you're going to keep the family, the home and everything.
00:17:25.000Let's say she does nothing of that stuff.
00:17:26.000She's sitting around eating bonbons going out in the backyard in the pool on some giant, I don't know, stupid pink inflatable raft that costs 100 bucks.
00:17:46.000You sat there and basically used him as a wallet, like we've talked about.
00:17:50.000You just ran up the credit card bills and bought whatever you wanted, did whatever you wanted, had the girls weekend, did all those things.
00:17:56.000example it's probably not all that extreme it's very common not all that extreme To make the point, do you really think that that person should be entitled to half in that situation and why?
00:18:07.000And women, you might get this like defensive thing that comes up, but ask yourself why flip it if you as a woman.
00:18:18.000were to be the one who's a model, an actress, or a businesswoman who started a business.
00:18:22.000And your man is sitting over there pounding beers all day, doing the Al Bundy, handing out.
00:18:45.000When is enough enough in these situations?
00:18:47.000Like it really is a it's a bad situation for a lot of guys to be in and especially with the laws the way they are in this country.
00:18:53.000And I'm coming at it from a Christian perspective when it shouldn't be like this in the first place and we need to do a lot of work on the front end to make sure the back end doesn't look so bad.
00:19:00.000Well, here's where I agree with the Muslims.
00:19:04.000Like, I mean, listen, you say stuff like that and it's kind of a joke and it's like, it solves parts of the problem, but it's not.
00:21:05.000But yeah, no, it's that a good source of child support.
00:21:11.000Also, the problem though is that that's kind of imposed by the courts because many men would not only would many men like primary or full custody, it's almost never granted.
00:21:19.000But here's something you also need to know.
00:21:21.000That abuse, domestic abuse, is actually higher from women to men.
00:21:46.000And then you can look at the numbers of abusive children, both physical and other emotional, it's much higher in single mother households and single father households.
00:21:53.000We've been led to believe that that's just an inescapable fact, but the court system says, unless it's so beyond the pale, literally a current active drug problem, well, we got to err on the side of the mom and you have dads who want to take care of their kids, you have dads who want to step up.
00:22:09.000And I think there are plenty of men, believe me, I've talked about this for long enough, so I don't even do more.
00:22:13.000Plenty of men who refuse to step up, I get it.
00:22:15.000But what about the men who did step up and who want to step up, not saying they're perfect, who are excluded, excluded because of the system.
00:22:24.000The quickest way to get rich in this country, if you are in an attractive woman, is marry a rich guy and it doesn't matter if you cheat on him or not, take his stuff.
00:22:32.000And there's a 20 something billion dollar industry that will help you do it.
00:24:12.000It seems like he's pretty involved because he bought another house that's just a few houses down away from where he would be required to live as a primary residence so he can be near the kids.
00:24:21.000Also look at the story of before he got married and how he got took care of the kids.
00:24:26.000Hey, I know he probably isn't going to have a work life balance because he's the greatest quarterback who's ever lived.
00:24:32.000Kind of takes a little bit of work and effort.
00:24:35.000Did you get married to him when you were in the NFL or when he was in the NFL?
00:28:16.000We have to fix it because there's just too many examples, high profile examples of this happening that get out in the media and guys are going, like, what are we doing?
00:29:19.000I read Judge Bork's book, Slouching Towards Gamora back in the 80s, and it just, it was all the stuff that I was thinking didn't have the balls to say.
00:29:29.000And then this guy who's ten times smarter, a thousand times smarter, pretty smart much said, and I couldn't watch a movie or a TV show the same way again.
00:29:48.000Have you ever, and I mean this, have you ever watched a movie or a television show where the man walks out on his family and it isn't immediately known that the writers are using this as a tool to paint the character as a piece of shit?
00:30:27.000It's like you say, it definitely is a culture, which media plays a role in.
00:30:30.000And by the way, of course, the Democratic Party would be on board with this because families, strong nuclear families, are much harder to govern.
00:30:40.000Before we get to the same sex thing, the reason we have marriage laws was to create strong nuclear families so we could have self governance before any other form of municipal or state governance.
00:30:49.000And you look at the welfare policies and the model cities program and great society and all this stuff, great societies.
00:30:57.000Maybe it's an accident, but it's it is a little bit I guess it's one of those things at a certain point when you say, well, where is it how is this an accident where you couldn't have crafted policy to destroy the nuclear family more effectively?
00:31:18.000Scare men off from getting married through divorce laws, all right.
00:31:21.000Tell young women that they can have it all, okay.
00:31:24.000Tell young men that they don't have a choice.
00:31:25.000They should sit back and shut up and, by the way, abandon their post as leaders in the household and community, all right, got it, and then punish men financially if they still decide to take the risk and get married.
00:31:36.000And make LGBT mainstream, trans, yeah.
00:31:47.000I'll even go one step further and say before we get to, no, same-sex couple is not the same as a couple.
00:31:57.000It's not the same standard from a household that has clear roles.
00:32:01.000In other words, a dual-income household where both share all same responsibilities and it's a democracy is not as legitimate in the form of a nuclear family as a head of household, one person who's a primary earner and one person who takes care of the family.
00:32:14.000If you're paying someone else to raise your kids, that is not the same as that's not the ideal.
00:32:29.000And by the way, you do know when people talk about corporate overlords and corporate influence, you do realize that women getting into the workforce, it was post-industrial revolution where these guys thought, hey, we can get cheaper labor if we double the workforce.
00:32:39.000Hey, women, look, you can have your freedom.
00:32:45.000People will say, hey, if you're a domesticc woman, if you're a woman who stays home and takes care of the family and takes care of the kids, you're a slave.
00:32:52.000Okay, but what is it when you have to punch the clock nine to five to someone else who gets to dictate everything you do and doesn't even love you?
00:33:58.000No fault divorce was actually, funny enough, speared up by people like Hugh Hefner, Kinsey, who believed that men are sexual animals who should be able to have sex with everyone they want and not honor their marriage vows, and in which case, right, they shouldn't be punished for it.
00:34:10.000So they thought, hey, no fault divorce will allow men to cheat and it'll be consequence-free.
00:34:14.000Because before that, you kind of had one of three primary reasons.
00:34:18.000There were some exceptions, but it would either be infidelity, in which case you paid.
00:34:23.000It would be physical abuse, in which case you paid.
00:34:25.000But if it didn't meet those two, it would be abandonment by whoever filed for divorce, in which case, okay, you deal with your own consequences.
00:34:31.000So infidelity, we all knew that, abuse or abandonment.
00:34:35.000But then when we said no false, we removed.
00:34:38.000We removed the accountability for abandonment where it's a completely consequence-free decision.
00:34:57.000What it allowed was anyone to leave at any point.
00:35:01.000And there's no actual moral grounds for cheating because either way, if you're the one who cheats, you can still leave and take half because you probably cheated because you're unhappy, right?
00:35:10.000It's his fault because he didn't make you happy.
00:35:12.000And then you look at the statistics where men typically don't, even when offered, take alimony when it's a very rare instance of them earning less.
00:36:01.000Since Nick is a huge fan, can you discuss the collapse of WNBA ratings without Clark since they allowed the players to beat the hell out of their money ticket for being a straight white?
00:36:10.000I don't know anything about the answers.
00:36:12.000Nick, has the ratings gone down significantly?
00:39:12.000The left should be happy about it, because remember Joy Reid and not Joy Reid, what was the name of the SEALs saying that Harriet Tubman was only helped by people who benefited from white supremacy.
00:39:22.000Well, I guess the white viewers who make up the majority of this country benefited from white supremacy and you didn't want their viewership, so they finally heard you.
00:40:27.000I think what she's also saying is that they're trapped in the incentive structure.
00:40:30.000For example, with, well, hold on, but for example with COVID and with climate change, no, Nick, that's the third time you've offered.
00:40:39.000If you came out against any of those things, came out against climate change or anything, with any other opinion scientifically, they would just excommunicate you.
00:40:45.000You would lose your ability to earn a living.
00:40:47.000You wouldn't be able to publish, you wouldn't be able to do research.
00:40:50.000Maybe there's a lot of people trapped there that are not actually left wing, but they're like, well, I can't, I can't do anything other than what I'm supposed to be doing according to the grant structure or according to what the dean says or whatever.
00:41:37.000Yeah, but what about the fact that your son's going to have to get, you know, about eighty points higher on the SATs and they've actually started declining people from the schools where you want to send them.
00:42:29.000With the scientific community, like, you know, I was actually, I believe, published, but certainly accepted with the fat pride as a method of self care in the era of Trump as C. Matheson.
00:42:39.000I just put on a sweater, a prothetic fake boob, said I was a tranny, and it was accepted.
00:42:43.000And so people who, even if they're limited in scope, they don't understand everything else, but many of them do value, even if they're led in the wrong, the scientific process or what they view as the purity.
00:42:52.000You can chip away at it by showing them the illegitimacy of that field.
00:42:57.000Go like, the more they see, hey, by the way, you weren't published, but this was.
00:43:03.000that pride as self care in the era of Trump.
00:43:06.000Hey, I don't know if you notice, this was published, this research that says a BMI of, well, it's not even on the chart, blood type pudding is just as healthy as someone who is fit.
00:43:15.000I don't know if you know this, but there's published research that now says, hey, maybe cholesterol, blood pressure and BMI don't matter at all.
00:43:26.000And if you do that, then they start to lose faith in their own institution.
00:43:29.000A lot of people, unfortunately, it's very selfish, and this shouldn't, this is why I don't believe you should vote merely in your own self interest.
00:43:36.000They don't care about it until it affects their thing.
00:43:40.000thing until it affects their line of work, their milieu.
00:43:43.000Sometimes it doesn't affect them until it affects their family directly.
00:43:46.000And that's why you saw so many people change in COVID.
00:43:50.000I will tell you this, it's still a demographic problem, but I have never seen more politically apathetic suburban white women become rabidly anti-democratic in my lifetime than COVID.
00:44:04.000And they believe the schools were looking out for their kids.
00:44:06.000And not only do they have to start homeschooling, right?
00:44:08.000That starts where you go, oh my gosh, the stress of this, I don't think I can do it.
00:44:11.000And then you realize, well, wait a second, actually, I'm kind of able to do this.
00:44:14.000And wait a second, I can do it in two hours a day.
00:44:18.000And wait a second, they're performing better than when they were studying nine hours a day.
00:44:22.000And wait a second, the teachers who are supposed to be caring for my children, whom I pay through my tax dollars, don't want to come back even though we know they're not at risk.
00:44:31.000Wait a second, my husband's business is shut down.
00:45:24.000That's a, and by the way, that's a tough one.
00:45:26.000And here's the thing, you're going to see more of that because men have been told and they're they're wrong for wanting what men have always wanted and they're shamed for having expectations.
00:45:36.000So if a woman sets back boundaries often, these are general rules.
00:45:41.000There are exceptions, of course, of course, sleeping with the enemy, all that shit.
00:45:48.000If a man sets boundaries, he's controlling.
00:45:52.000And you see that a lot where a man is afraid to say, let's say you're in a world, and this is very common, where the man is the only one who works.
00:46:01.000Okay, you know how it always was throughout the whole of society.
00:46:03.000So you're talking about white people, go ahead.
00:46:33.000Of course, fixing something if a drain gets clogged.
00:46:37.000I would like it if, oh, I can't say that I'd like it if I came home and there was a warm meal because you'll say, what am I your personal chef?
00:46:44.000I would like it if, oh, I can't say that if I came home and you were on all fours, my wife on the bedroom in a negligent way because you'll say you're a whore.
00:46:50.000I would like it if, oh, I can't say that I'd like to come home to a nice, welcoming, clean house because then you'll say that you're nothing but my maid.
00:46:56.000Well, I don't want to enslave you, so do whatever you want.
00:47:00.000And then, like you see, it's hard to respect that man.
00:47:06.000That's why we're talking about changing this, as far as you personally with your husband.
00:47:11.000That is, you know, a lot of people just kind of gloss over this.
00:47:18.000It makes a man scared to see a very unnatural dynamic that is the byproduct of feminism, a woman in charge of the household.
00:47:25.000And so he thinks that either he's emulating it because it's all he knows, he's scared, or he thinks it's the right thing to do.
00:47:33.000Now, unfortunately, to get him to a point of leadership so that you can, well, let's be honest, not only respect him, but likely be attracted to him, because it's an attractive quality.
00:48:06.000Deal with a raging erection and continue to make baby steps.
00:48:10.000Give him permission to because you're trying to combat decades of societal collapse and he doesn't know.
00:48:18.000He may not be capable of that yet, of leadership because he never had it instilled in him, but I guarantee you this, at this point in time, he may have the ability, he may not, but he doesn't know.
00:48:29.000So first, figure out if he knows and don't coach him.
00:48:36.000Give him permission to do exactly what God called him to do and exactly what every single society ever before the year 1960 expected him to do.
00:48:47.000So if it sounds like I'm sh shaming women here.
00:48:51.000I do think that there is an imbalance and I do think that men don't have people who stand in the pocket and I certainly don't think that men often have someone who stands in the pocket who believes in being chaste where you can, who believes in being loyal, who believes in loving his wife as they love the church.
00:49:05.000You often get red pilled, you get the Andrew Tates of the world, or you get people who say be a doormat.
00:49:10.000But I do think that there should be shame for men.