In this episode, we discuss political violence in the United States, and how it pertains to the right vs. the left. We also discuss the recent shooting of a woman at a coffee shop, and whether or not we should be worried about it.
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00:03:08.000Uh is that by and large, the tone, tenor, temperature right now, certainly in 2025, of political violence is coming overwhelmingly from the left.
00:03:17.000And uh I think this leads nowhere good unless the course corrects if you disagree, you're welcome to change my mind.
00:03:24.000So I would disagree one in the statement that these blanket statements of the left is violent, hurts the idea, creates a divisiveness in lost versus that.
00:03:35.000I've been hearing your stats as well, that yes, it's it's disproportionately on the left as of late, and the stats I've seen as you defined.
00:03:52.000However, even if there is more violence on the right, or even if there is more violence on the left, I think violence as a whole is a problem.
00:03:58.000But I think you're also going to have violence as you radicalize groups regarding.
00:04:23.000I don't think it's possible to be in a right wing echo chamber because all of media, all of Hollywood, all of mainstream press, these institutions in academia lean heavily left.
00:04:30.000I think some people can silo themselves off, but still you're people on the right are more aware of those, the positions on the left than than vice versa.
00:04:41.000But let's assume somebody's watching all the right-wing channels.
00:04:44.000Is there anything that you can think of more radicalizing than a moderate conservative who sat down and spoke peacefully being politically assassinated as an act of terrorism in cold blood and then gleefully celebrated thereafter when we tried to host peaceful memorials to mourn the death of our own, showing up, attacking, desecrating, spitting at every single vigil and memorial, and then blaming the right and saying we need to tone down the temperature.
00:05:07.000In other words, if you're a young conservative who watched Charlie Kirk, or could have been me, by the way, sitting in that chair because there have been many attempts.
00:05:29.000Also, we can't okay, but it was come out and stated that that he was like doing this for left-leaning political reasons far before, but far before you could have even known what it was.
00:06:00.000And the reason it was leaked to us from someone at DOD, DOJ, is because they were concerned that it would be buried.
00:06:06.000So when we released that, which of course now we know is true, it's been confirmed, we were tarred and feathered as liars and fake purveyors of fake news.
00:06:14.000So we knew it before anyone else, and I've been following it since he said it was an act of political violence.
00:06:18.000He said that he killed Charlie Kirk because he was hateful and fascist.
00:06:27.000Do we agree that it's pretty clear what the motives are if the person who does it says it?
00:06:31.000Yes, if he's said it, I mean, you could still And engraved it?
00:06:35.000The engraving though doesn't necessarily isn't necessarily leftist.
00:06:39.000Like, I think you could definitely make an argument that it is leftist, but you could also make an argument.
00:06:43.000One, you could easily make an argument that they you wanted to add division.
00:06:47.000Shooting Charlie Kirk with a bullet engraving that says, fuck fascism, when Charlie Kirk, and by the way, yours truly have been accused of being fascist for a decade, and then you read the writings of him saying he's hateful, that seems pretty clear to me.
00:07:00.000In other words, you sent a bullet with the engraving, fuck fascism at the person.
00:07:09.000What I would say though is that doesn't still necessarily mean it's far leftist.
00:07:16.000But even if in this case it is far leftist, I still don't think Would we agree that the reasoning for the murder was the rhetoric of the left?
00:07:24.000They are the ones who accuse people like myself and Charlie Kirk of being fascist in comparisons to Hitler.
00:07:30.000If they weren't doing it, no one would think we're fascist.
00:07:35.000We don't accuse the left of being fascist and Hitler.
00:07:39.000I agree, that's not necessarily happening, but I think that rhetoric in general, this far push, we are pushing so heavily towards a dust us versus them statement on both sides, on both the left and the right, that that the other guy is evil and the other guy is wrong.
00:07:55.000And that is true of a lot of both people that I know personally and in general.
00:08:03.000And we gain nothing from an us versus them mentality.
00:08:08.000The only time you can get benefit and value, that's the whole point of your show is to build a relationship with somebody and talk through your problems.
00:08:15.000Uh and it's when you recognize that the other.
00:08:16.000Build a relationship based on truth, though.
00:08:19.000And I don't believe, I don't believe in linking hands with people who celebrate the assassination.
00:08:24.000And the problem is it's 62% of those on the left.
00:08:26.00062% you gov poll after Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:08:29.00062% on the left believe that it was somewhat to completely acceptable political violence.
00:08:33.00077% of self-identified conservatives said no.
00:08:35.000Snap poll before Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:08:37.000Six to one, left supports violence over the right.
00:08:39.000Another poll from Rutgers after Donald Trump, right?
00:08:42.000The attempted assassination, over 60% on the left supported it.
00:08:44.000You don't find that from conservatives against Kamala Harris.
00:08:46.000Over 60% firebombing Teslas, over 60% assassin.
00:08:50.000So in other words, you do have to look at the rhetoric, you do have to look at the acts of violence, and you do have to look at the preponderance of evidence, the totality of the polls that shows one side of the political aisle justifies, supports political violence as a means to an end, and that is the left.
00:09:06.000Let me give you some context for January 6th.
00:09:08.000Do you realize that more people, more people at ICE facilities in the state of Texas have been killed by left-wing violence in the last week than all of January 6th combined.
00:09:22.000Yes, there weren't deaths or killing during January 6th, and major ones because it was the it's the capital.
00:09:29.000But my point is, why do you reach back to January 6th for what about is right up the street, you have more violence than January 6th.
00:09:33.000Also, I and we haven't gone three days in the last two weeks for that leftist violence.
00:09:36.000In other words, there's no equivalency.
00:10:04.000So what you just said, I just want you to bear with me here.
00:10:09.000That kind of rhetoric, that there's a problem with ice, no due process, people who are here illegally are not entitled to the same due process as American citizens, and that kind of rhetoric is why people shoot up ICE facilities.
00:10:24.000A slight change in deportation policies, and by the way, I mean very slight, because Barack Obama did it too.
00:10:29.000He had to give speeches on it because he was like, guys, we have to deport some people.
00:10:32.000A slight change in border policy is not something that warrants any kind of justification for the fomenting violence that we see from the left.
00:10:39.000ICE is doing their job, and illegal aliens are not entitled to due process.
00:10:53.000Someone happens to set foot in our country, if they're a terrorist, they're entitled to due process, as opposed to, and we're not, by the way, executing them, we're deporting them, we're sending them back to their country of origin.
00:11:00.000Yes, because that is what makes America amazing.
00:11:02.000Is that you are innocent and proven until proven guilty.
00:11:05.000Where are you getting this idea that anyone who enters the country is entitled to our constitutional rights and due process?
00:11:15.000In other words, that's not anywhere in our laws and our founding and our constitution, that anyone who comes into this country illegally is entitled to due process and our constitutional rights.
00:12:04.000If I believed, if I believed that uh Joe Biden, if I believe what the left believes about Donald Trump and me as a voter, if I believe that Joe Biden was rounding up and killing white Christian men, if I believed that Joe Biden was a fascist, if I believed that Joe Biden was committing genocide, if I believe that Joe Biden was doing all of this would strip us of all of our found uh foundational fundamental rights and would never relinquish the reins of power or have a democratic election again, I'd be in the street with a gun.
00:12:31.000Those on the left believe every single one of those premises about Donald Trump and his voters.
00:12:36.000So do you understand why there's the violence?
00:13:37.000When the left, so here, when you say don't label, when people and the left says tone it down, tone it down from sitting at a table and having a conversation with anyone who will listen because they took his life anyway and they tried to take mine.
00:14:18.000Oh far more violence from the left than the right and the means of enforcement is violent.
00:14:23.000The means of enforcement from the left is violent.
00:14:26.000I think there's also something to be said on the point that which we would have talked about but that there's further oppression being pushed from the from the right on basic liberties but that is more violence.
00:14:36.000If we had time to get to it I would but taking away our guns taking away our speech taking away our kids if we don't transition them that's the left's platform and you find it from every single major leftist Joe Biden Kamala Harris all the way down it'd be tough.
00:14:47.000It would be a conversation I'd love to have but they're booting us because they don't want me to get shot which kind of makes the point Chris I would argue the universe not at the shop but great to meet you guys.
00:14:55.000Thank you brother no I thanks for being a good sports.