Louder with Crowder - October 01, 2025


The Left is Violent | Change My Mind 2025-10-01 18:11


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In this episode, we discuss political violence in the United States, and how it pertains to the right vs. the left. We also discuss the recent shooting of a woman at a coffee shop, and whether or not we should be worried about it.

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00:00:00.000 So this is to start the conversation, and then the conversations result in this.
00:00:04.000 But I will say I assume you're raised in the church, or raised Christian family.
00:00:08.000 Yes, yes.
00:00:08.000 Yeah.
00:00:10.000 And SMU is relatively moderate as far as schools.
00:00:12.000 Yeah.
00:00:12.000 There is a whole dark world that awaits you, and I want you to put the armor of the Lord on the right.
00:00:17.000 I'm from Connecticut.
00:00:18.000 I uh okay, all right.
00:00:19.000 There you go.
00:00:20.000 Plus you got the McMahon's there, they do some great stuff, but all right.
00:00:22.000 Well, thank was it Andrew?
00:00:23.000 Yes.
00:00:23.000 Um I know this is unconventional.
00:00:25.000 Is it cool if I pray with you real quick?
00:00:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:00:27.000 We've done that so several times.
00:00:28.000 Um Dear Heavenly Father, I just I just thank you for Steven and what he's doing out here.
00:00:33.000 Um I just ask that you can use his voice as um to be an ambassador for your will.
00:00:38.000 Um I I thank you for the ability to have this this beautiful day, this beautiful breeze, and have conversations out here.
00:00:45.000 Um I just ask that you are uh our president with and bless everyone that is in attendance today, as well as everyone in our country, um those who are struggling and uh and sometimes most importantly to pray for God is our enemies and those who fervently disagree with us, even if they want us dead, we have to pray for their salvation and for them to come around.
00:01:03.000 Um and we just appreciate having this gift of life that we're able to do this and able to hopefully do your will and do this in your name.
00:01:10.000 We pray this in Jesus' name.
00:01:11.000 Amen.
00:01:11.000 Jesus' name, amen.
00:01:12.000 I apologize because I looked around a couple times to make sure no one was coming in high.
00:01:15.000 Oh no, but thank you so much.
00:01:16.000 Thank you, but blessing.
00:01:17.000 I appreciate that.
00:01:18.000 Thank you.
00:01:18.000 That means a lot.
00:01:19.000 Thank you.
00:01:22.000 Okay, so you see the conversations thus far, a little of column A, a little of column B. Which ones do you enjoy watching most?
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00:01:44.000 Let's go on to this next subject.
00:01:48.000 Chris tougher.
00:01:50.000 Chris.
00:01:51.000 I don't know how familiar you are with uh what this series is, but first time hearing it's a most fun.
00:01:56.000 I know the meme.
00:01:56.000 So I didn't see that one coming.
00:01:59.000 I as far as when it happened, I was like, ah, it was just me at a table.
00:02:02.000 Yeah.
00:02:02.000 Um I'll tell you what it's not.
00:02:04.000 It's not clips and reels and shorts and dunks and gotcha and clickbait.
00:02:08.000 Uh if this conversation is productive and we're both having it in good faith, it'll be uploaded in its entirety contextually.
00:02:14.000 Uh it's an opportunity for us to rationalize, to reason our positions on what are viewed as controversial topics.
00:02:19.000 Yeah.
00:02:20.000 Um so before I get to the premise, and by the way, you can take us if you want, all the we always make the sources publicly available.
00:02:24.000 Fantastic.
00:02:24.000 So if you just take that, that's yours, the QR code, you can go check the references.
00:02:27.000 Thank you.
00:02:28.000 Um and and fact check me in case I'm lying to you.
00:02:31.000 Because people, I don't know if you know this.
00:02:32.000 People in media do that shit.
00:02:33.000 Yes.
00:02:34.000 Uh could you do me a favor?
00:02:35.000 Yep.
00:02:35.000 Uh, and just so we agree, kind of read this political violence, terrorism.
00:02:39.000 This is defined by the current sources being cited out there.
00:02:42.000 And I'll summarize it for people watching.
00:02:44.000 Uh hopefully we find common ground on the idea.
00:02:46.000 Political violence is when violence is used as a means to a political end.
00:02:51.000 So let's say you vote Democrat um and you accidentally hit someone with your car today.
00:02:55.000 Yeah.
00:02:56.000 Who happens to be a Republican?
00:02:57.000 That's not political violence.
00:02:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:02:58.000 But if you go, I'm gonna give me a Republican, that would be political violence.
00:03:01.000 We agree on that?
00:03:01.000 Yes, we're gonna do that.
00:03:02.000 Okay.
00:03:03.000 So what I'm asserting today is sorry, I know we just touched on it, but it's okay.
00:03:06.000 Okay.
00:03:06.000 I'm fine if you're good.
00:03:08.000 Uh is that by and large, the tone, tenor, temperature right now, certainly in 2025, of political violence is coming overwhelmingly from the left.
00:03:17.000 And uh I think this leads nowhere good unless the course corrects if you disagree, you're welcome to change my mind.
00:03:24.000 So I would disagree one in the statement that these blanket statements of the left is violent, hurts the idea, creates a divisiveness in lost versus that.
00:03:34.000 I agree with what you're saying.
00:03:35.000 I've been hearing your stats as well, that yes, it's it's disproportionately on the left as of late, and the stats I've seen as you defined.
00:03:43.000 I think So you agree with that.
00:03:45.000 I agree with that.
00:03:46.000 Well, it would it surprise you that a lot of people don't agree with that.
00:03:48.000 They say they say, well, there's more violence on the right.
00:03:50.000 That's the talking point.
00:03:52.000 However, even if there is more violence on the right, or even if there is more violence on the left, I think violence as a whole is a problem.
00:03:58.000 But I think you're also going to have violence as you radicalize groups regarding.
00:04:01.000 Sure.
00:04:02.000 Uh may I address that?
00:04:04.000 Just because uh we are a little bit tight for time right now, I apologize.
00:04:07.000 Um and I hear about radicalizing a lot.
00:04:09.000 Um and by the way, the reason for that is you know I can fit it on a sign.
00:04:12.000 Yeah, and then I provide the context when we sit down.
00:04:14.000 So I'm maturing the rhetoric of the left, right?
00:04:16.000 They say the right commits more crime.
00:04:17.000 I go, well, no, actually the left is violent, but then I think I explain it contextually.
00:04:20.000 Absolutely.
00:04:20.000 We hear about radicalizing a lot.
00:04:22.000 So and I think that does happen.
00:04:23.000 I don't think it's possible to be in a right wing echo chamber because all of media, all of Hollywood, all of mainstream press, these institutions in academia lean heavily left.
00:04:30.000 I think some people can silo themselves off, but still you're people on the right are more aware of those, the positions on the left than than vice versa.
00:04:36.000 But we hear about radicalizing.
00:04:38.000 Let me ask you this.
00:04:39.000 Okay.
00:04:40.000 You disagree with that?
00:04:40.000 I would definitely don't.
00:04:41.000 But let's assume somebody's watching all the right-wing channels.
00:04:44.000 Is there anything that you can think of more radicalizing than a moderate conservative who sat down and spoke peacefully being politically assassinated as an act of terrorism in cold blood and then gleefully celebrated thereafter when we tried to host peaceful memorials to mourn the death of our own, showing up, attacking, desecrating, spitting at every single vigil and memorial, and then blaming the right and saying we need to tone down the temperature.
00:05:07.000 In other words, if you're a young conservative who watched Charlie Kirk, or could have been me, by the way, sitting in that chair because there have been many attempts.
00:05:13.000 Yep.
00:05:14.000 I don't think there's anything on earth that could be more radicalizing than that, because the left still kept blaming the right.
00:05:20.000 They didn't take the off rank.
00:05:21.000 Okay, but I would also argue we don't know all the motivations behind why the shooters are doing.
00:05:28.000 Sure we do.
00:05:29.000 Also, we can't okay, but it was come out and stated that that he was like doing this for left-leaning political reasons far before, but far before you could have even known what it was.
00:05:41.000 A lot of the statements.
00:05:43.000 Are you aware that by the way, I know this is just because it's relevant.
00:05:46.000 We had a leak under the DOD.
00:05:48.000 So we were the my team right here, they were the they were the people who broke the news that there were engravings on the bullet casings.
00:05:55.000 Okay.
00:05:55.000 That were anti-fascist, that were weird, trans sort of 4chan type stuff.
00:05:59.000 That's the OWL notices bulge.
00:06:00.000 And the reason it was leaked to us from someone at DOD, DOJ, is because they were concerned that it would be buried.
00:06:06.000 So when we released that, which of course now we know is true, it's been confirmed, we were tarred and feathered as liars and fake purveyors of fake news.
00:06:14.000 So we knew it before anyone else, and I've been following it since he said it was an act of political violence.
00:06:18.000 He said that he killed Charlie Kirk because he was hateful and fascist.
00:06:22.000 That's enough for me.
00:06:23.000 That okay.
00:06:24.000 That is wrong.
00:06:25.000 Absolutely.
00:06:26.000 And so I can agree.
00:06:27.000 Well, not wrong.
00:06:27.000 Do we agree that it's pretty clear what the motives are if the person who does it says it?
00:06:31.000 Yes, if he's said it, I mean, you could still And engraved it?
00:06:35.000 The engraving though doesn't necessarily isn't necessarily leftist.
00:06:39.000 Like, I think you could definitely make an argument that it is leftist, but you could also make an argument.
00:06:43.000 One, you could easily make an argument that they you wanted to add division.
00:06:47.000 Shooting Charlie Kirk with a bullet engraving that says, fuck fascism, when Charlie Kirk, and by the way, yours truly have been accused of being fascist for a decade, and then you read the writings of him saying he's hateful, that seems pretty clear to me.
00:07:00.000 In other words, you sent a bullet with the engraving, fuck fascism at the person.
00:07:03.000 Absolutely.
00:07:04.000 People said Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
00:07:05.000 This person believed it, shot him because he believed he was a fascist.
00:07:08.000 Is that not clear?
00:07:09.000 That is clear.
00:07:09.000 What I would say though is that doesn't still necessarily mean it's far leftist.
00:07:16.000 But even if in this case it is far leftist, I still don't think Would we agree that the reasoning for the murder was the rhetoric of the left?
00:07:24.000 They are the ones who accuse people like myself and Charlie Kirk of being fascist in comparisons to Hitler.
00:07:30.000 If they weren't doing it, no one would think we're fascist.
00:07:34.000 No, not on both sides.
00:07:35.000 We don't accuse the left of being fascist and Hitler.
00:07:39.000 I agree, that's not necessarily happening, but I think that rhetoric in general, this far push, we are pushing so heavily towards a dust us versus them statement on both sides, on both the left and the right, that that the other guy is evil and the other guy is wrong.
00:07:55.000 And that is true of a lot of both people that I know personally and in general.
00:08:03.000 And we gain nothing from an us versus them mentality.
00:08:07.000 Ever.
00:08:08.000 The only time you can get benefit and value, that's the whole point of your show is to build a relationship with somebody and talk through your problems.
00:08:15.000 Uh and it's when you recognize that the other.
00:08:16.000 Build a relationship based on truth, though.
00:08:18.000 Absolutely.
00:08:18.000 Yeah.
00:08:19.000 And I don't believe, I don't believe in linking hands with people who celebrate the assassination.
00:08:24.000 And the problem is it's 62% of those on the left.
00:08:26.000 62% you gov poll after Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:08:29.000 62% on the left believe that it was somewhat to completely acceptable political violence.
00:08:33.000 77% of self-identified conservatives said no.
00:08:35.000 Snap poll before Charlie Kirk was killed.
00:08:37.000 Six to one, left supports violence over the right.
00:08:39.000 Another poll from Rutgers after Donald Trump, right?
00:08:42.000 The attempted assassination, over 60% on the left supported it.
00:08:44.000 You don't find that from conservatives against Kamala Harris.
00:08:46.000 Over 60% firebombing Teslas, over 60% assassin.
00:08:50.000 So in other words, you do have to look at the rhetoric, you do have to look at the acts of violence, and you do have to look at the preponderance of evidence, the totality of the polls that shows one side of the political aisle justifies, supports political violence as a means to an end, and that is the left.
00:09:05.000 That's exactly right.
00:09:06.000 Let me give you some context for January 6th.
00:09:08.000 Do you realize that more people, more people at ICE facilities in the state of Texas have been killed by left-wing violence in the last week than all of January 6th combined.
00:09:22.000 Yes, there weren't deaths or killing during January 6th, and major ones because it was the it's the capital.
00:09:29.000 But my point is, why do you reach back to January 6th for what about is right up the street, you have more violence than January 6th.
00:09:33.000 Also, I and we haven't gone three days in the last two weeks for that leftist violence.
00:09:36.000 In other words, there's no equivalency.
00:09:38.000 What about January 6th?
00:09:39.000 I I agree, but however, also you have to recognize that for one, the aspects of ice, I think that is a major issue and a major problem.
00:09:47.000 And if we could have time to go into that, I know we don't have to.
00:09:50.000 I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
00:09:51.000 They're boon now because of security.
00:09:52.000 Amazing to go into.
00:09:53.000 But that right there is a major problem as well.
00:09:56.000 And I think there is something to be said.
00:09:58.000 How so?
00:09:59.000 Uh with ICE and all that?
00:10:00.000 Uh the lack of due process given to immigrants being deported.
00:10:04.000 Okay.
00:10:04.000 So what you just said, I just want you to bear with me here.
00:10:09.000 That kind of rhetoric, that there's a problem with ice, no due process, people who are here illegally are not entitled to the same due process as American citizens, and that kind of rhetoric is why people shoot up ICE facilities.
00:10:22.000 They're doing their job.
00:10:24.000 A slight change in deportation policies, and by the way, I mean very slight, because Barack Obama did it too.
00:10:29.000 He had to give speeches on it because he was like, guys, we have to deport some people.
00:10:32.000 A slight change in border policy is not something that warrants any kind of justification for the fomenting violence that we see from the left.
00:10:39.000 ICE is doing their job, and illegal aliens are not entitled to due process. 1.00
00:10:43.000 They never have been.
00:10:47.000 Nope.
00:10:48.000 To American citizens.
00:10:49.000 To natural American citizens, naturalized American citizens.
00:10:52.000 Okay.
00:10:53.000 Someone happens to set foot in our country, if they're a terrorist, they're entitled to due process, as opposed to, and we're not, by the way, executing them, we're deporting them, we're sending them back to their country of origin.
00:11:00.000 Yes, because that is what makes America amazing.
00:11:02.000 Is that you are innocent and proven until proven guilty.
00:11:05.000 Where are you getting this idea that anyone who enters the country is entitled to our constitutional rights and due process? 1.00
00:11:10.000 Where are you getting that?
00:11:11.000 People in the US.
00:11:14.000 But where are you getting this idea?
00:11:15.000 In other words, that's not anywhere in our laws and our founding and our constitution, that anyone who comes into this country illegally is entitled to due process and our constitutional rights. 1.00
00:11:22.000 They're not.
00:11:22.000 Where are you getting that?
00:11:24.000 In the the we the people under the US, it is the.
00:11:28.000 They are not we the people, they're not Americans. 1.00
00:11:30.000 They are they're not allowed to be here legally.
00:11:32.000 But we're should criminals, should violent criminals be allowed to vote on law that relates to crime?
00:11:40.000 Why?
00:11:40.000 Where are you getting it?
00:11:41.000 Because of the fact that you feel that they should, what's the basis for it?
00:11:46.000 Because that's how the Constitution is stated about the people that's not.
00:11:53.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:11:54.000 So where are you basing it if not that?
00:11:56.000 Fine.
00:11:56.000 But the problem is you have people saying, hey, ICE are breaking up families.
00:11:59.000 Hey, they're violating human rights, civil rights.
00:12:01.000 Hey, you know what?
00:12:02.000 Let me put it this way.
00:12:03.000 And we do have to get going.
00:12:04.000 If I believed, if I believed that uh Joe Biden, if I believe what the left believes about Donald Trump and me as a voter, if I believe that Joe Biden was rounding up and killing white Christian men, if I believed that Joe Biden was a fascist, if I believed that Joe Biden was committing genocide, if I believe that Joe Biden was doing all of this would strip us of all of our found uh foundational fundamental rights and would never relinquish the reins of power or have a democratic election again, I'd be in the street with a gun.
00:12:31.000 Those on the left believe every single one of those premises about Donald Trump and his voters.
00:12:36.000 So do you understand why there's the violence?
00:12:37.000 Also, again, I would say that.
00:12:38.000 Just like the beliefs about ICE.
00:12:41.000 Because you're saying every single one of the voters on the left.
00:12:44.000 Everybody on the left believes every single thing.
00:12:45.000 I believe a majority of people on the left believe that.
00:12:47.000 They believe what you believe about ICE.
00:12:48.000 These are men doing their job.
00:12:50.000 A slight change in border policy.
00:12:52.000 That little rationalization leads to violence.
00:12:54.000 Just like Charlie Kirk was a fascist and it was engraved in a bullet.
00:12:57.000 I so here's the other side.
00:12:59.000 I absolutely agree with you that like we should not be labeling people as necessarily things.
00:13:04.000 They have beliefs.
00:13:05.000 Okay.
00:13:06.000 Um they like there are beliefs that I like, I do not think Charlie Kirk should have been shot absolutely.
00:13:12.000 I know.
00:13:13.000 And by and I I know that.
00:13:14.000 But too many on the left do.
00:13:15.000 No, no, absolutely.
00:13:16.000 I and I but I still believe that like some of his beliefs were homophobic.
00:13:21.000 But you I don't, I'm not saying that he was a homophobe.
00:13:25.000 And I think that's such a major thing that like that people have beliefs and we can talk through them about that.
00:13:31.000 We can't though.
00:13:32.000 That's and that's the we do have to live on this.
00:13:34.000 We can't because we get killed.
00:13:36.000 That's the point.
00:13:37.000 When the left, so here, when you say don't label, when people and the left says tone it down, tone it down from sitting at a table and having a conversation with anyone who will listen because they took his life anyway and they tried to take mine.
00:13:47.000 Only the left does that.
00:13:48.000 No one on the left is afraid or has to have a quarter million dollars worth of security to have conversations.
00:13:53.000 We need to address the problem.
00:13:55.000 It's the reason for crime stats.
00:13:56.000 I agree with you.
00:13:57.000 We should sit down and have conversations.
00:13:58.000 That's why I'm having it most people can't because we get killed.
00:14:02.000 And that's a fundamental difference.
00:14:04.000 I still rushing us okay.
00:14:08.000 I still disagree.
00:14:10.000 Okay.
00:14:11.000 I mean I still disagree that that it is an inherently only that I didn't say only I said by and large.
00:14:17.000 It's not proportionate.
00:14:18.000 Oh far more violence from the left than the right and the means of enforcement is violent.
00:14:23.000 The means of enforcement from the left is violent.
00:14:26.000 I think there's also something to be said on the point that which we would have talked about but that there's further oppression being pushed from the from the right on basic liberties but that is more violence.
00:14:36.000 If we had time to get to it I would but taking away our guns taking away our speech taking away our kids if we don't transition them that's the left's platform and you find it from every single major leftist Joe Biden Kamala Harris all the way down it'd be tough.
00:14:47.000 It would be a conversation I'd love to have but they're booting us because they don't want me to get shot which kind of makes the point Chris I would argue the universe not at the shop but great to meet you guys.
00:14:55.000 Thank you brother no I thanks for being a good sports.