Louder with Crowder - December 18, 2024


The True Cost of Fat Pride: How It's Destroying America


Episode Stats

Length

59 minutes

Words per Minute

178.05586

Word Count

10,624

Sentence Count

1,142

Misogynist Sentences

56

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

It's the last show of the year, and we're here to talk about the TikTok ban, fat pride, and the discovery of Dadbo s tomb in Turkey. Plus, a new addition to our Christmas Special tomorrow.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Oh Santa!
00:00:07.000 Crowder Claus here and just wanted to remind you that tomorrow we are doing our annual Christmas extravaganza where Crowder gives back.
00:00:16.000 Really, it's Mug Club Rumble Premium gives back.
00:00:19.000 It's our favorite time of year.
00:00:21.000 My top elf, Elf Joshua, will be here tomorrow with us.
00:00:24.000 We love this time of year.
00:00:26.000 We can really help People out there give back to communities and of course are able to do that because of your support and generosity.
00:00:34.000 It's our annual Christmas special.
00:00:36.000 We'll see you tomorrow at 10 o'clock, 9 central AM.
00:01:03.000 This is nice.
00:01:04.000 Yeah, we don't do this enough.
00:01:06.000 I know, we used to do this all the time, remember?
00:01:07.000 God, it's just nice to get out of the house.
00:01:10.000 Relaycock!
00:01:12.000 Run for your lives!
00:01:13.000 No, no, no, no.
00:01:14.000 No, we're just here to...
00:01:15.000 Jeez.
00:01:16.000 This happens all the time.
00:01:17.000 I know.
00:01:18.000 I know, nonstop, probably because someone had to show up in full skeleton makeup.
00:01:22.000 That's not fair.
00:01:23.000 You guys used to do the same thing.
00:01:25.000 Yeah, 120 years ago.
00:01:26.000 It was a fashion thing back then.
00:01:27.000 It was different.
00:01:28.000 People were doing the skeleton look.
00:01:29.000 Yeah, 700 AD called.
00:01:31.000 They want you to get a new thing.
00:01:35.000 Hey guys, what do you think about doing matching cloaks?
00:01:38.000 Ooh!
00:01:38.000 Oh, that'd be fun!
00:01:40.000 Yeah, like a clone.
00:01:41.000 Yeah, I can make patches, see how we like them.
00:01:42.000 Just make sure it's on a three-piece rock, or I don't know anyone's thinking we're in a gang.
00:01:46.000 No, that won't help at all.
00:01:47.000 Freaking crusaders had to ruin that one for the rest of us.
00:01:50.000 Oh, that ship sailed a while ago.
00:01:51.000 Hey!
00:01:52.000 No!
00:01:53.000 Don't panic!
00:01:54.000 We're just here to get...
00:01:55.000 See, you can't talk with these people!
00:01:57.000 Get used to it.
00:01:58.000 New normal's here, guys.
00:02:00.000 Maybe for you.
00:02:03.000 What does that mean?
00:02:04.000 Yeah, what does that mean?
00:02:04.000 Here we go.
00:02:05.000 All I'm saying, at a certain point, what you get isn't worth what you do.
00:02:09.000 Okay, come on.
00:02:10.000 Yeah, we all had to make changes.
00:02:12.000 Not this sh** again.
00:02:13.000 Look, forget about it.
00:02:14.000 Forget I said anything.
00:02:20.000 You don't think it's because we have hell following with us, do you?
00:02:27.000 Doesn't help.
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00:03:23.000 Glad to be with you.
00:03:24.000 It is the last, well, less standard daily show before the Christmas special tomorrow.
00:03:29.000 Yeah.
00:03:29.000 Where, you know, we're just trying to break...
00:03:31.000 It's wholesome tomorrow.
00:03:32.000 It's not even a PG, so enjoy that.
00:03:32.000 You can watch it.
00:03:36.000 I don't care.
00:03:36.000 Or don't.
00:03:37.000 But today, we're going to be talking about...
00:03:39.000 We care a little.
00:03:40.000 Dad bod St. Nick's tomb that allegedly has been found in Turkey.
00:03:45.000 The TikTok ban.
00:03:46.000 And we haven't talked about this in a while.
00:03:48.000 Fat pride.
00:03:49.000 Fat pride.
00:03:50.000 Virgie Tovar, she was just brought on for the San Francisco Department of Health as a fat pride consultant.
00:03:58.000 And here's the thing.
00:03:59.000 I want to be really clear.
00:03:59.000 There's a big difference between just making fun of fat people, which sometimes still works.
00:04:05.000 But that and the societal ramifications of telling people that, hey, you know what?
00:04:11.000 You are oppressed if people tell you that you should, you know, be healthy.
00:04:15.000 Sorry.
00:04:16.000 I'm going to hit the mute button because I have a throat thing.
00:04:19.000 Are you going to chew it now for just a second?
00:04:22.000 We can hear you.
00:04:24.000 All of it went out.
00:04:27.000 Oh, you guys were dubbing me.
00:04:32.000 That's not fair.
00:04:33.000 You were dubbing me.
00:04:34.000 Yay, Mr. Falcon.
00:04:36.000 We're going to be talking about this TikTok fan too.
00:04:39.000 Donald Trump is being pretty opaque with it.
00:04:41.000 What's your opinion on this, on the TikTok, considering that the majority owner is basically part of the communist government?
00:04:49.000 Do you think it's a free speech issue or do you think it's a foreign threat issue?
00:04:53.000 And while we're talking about male, female body images and fat pride and dad bod, what's your favorite form of oppression?
00:05:03.000 And by that I mean your favorite workout, your favorite training workout.
00:05:06.000 Because it's now a form of oppression.
00:05:08.000 By the way, so is blood work.
00:05:09.000 I don't know if you know that.
00:05:10.000 I guarantee you at some point today, if you're watching on YouTube, you are going to see this.
00:05:18.000 So head on over to Rumble.
00:05:20.000 It is a live show.
00:05:22.000 Nothing up our sleeve.
00:05:23.000 Weekdays.
00:05:24.000 Captain Morgan, number two CEO. How are you?
00:05:24.000 10 a.m.
00:05:24.000 Eastern.
00:05:26.000 I'm doing well.
00:05:26.000 How are you?
00:05:27.000 Good.
00:05:27.000 We got the Christmas party tonight.
00:05:28.000 That'll be fun.
00:05:28.000 Yeah.
00:05:29.000 I was wrapping gifts last night, so that was fun.
00:05:31.000 Yeah.
00:05:31.000 You were?
00:05:32.000 With the missus.
00:05:33.000 Oh, you wrap gifts?
00:05:34.000 I'm never good at wrapping gifts.
00:05:34.000 I help.
00:05:35.000 And watched Christmas...
00:05:37.000 What is it?
00:05:39.000 My favorite Christmas...
00:05:40.000 Oh, you're on the ball.
00:05:40.000 I just forgot the name.
00:05:41.000 Wow, what a favorite it is.
00:05:44.000 I've watched Gremlins.
00:05:45.000 Nice.
00:05:46.000 Doesn't hold up that well.
00:05:47.000 Christmas Vacation.
00:05:49.000 There we go.
00:05:49.000 Because since everything is a Christmas movie, Gremlins is definitely a Christmas movie.
00:05:52.000 It is not.
00:05:54.000 No, no, no, it is not.
00:05:56.000 Someone's in an argument and you don't.
00:05:58.000 What was it trying to be?
00:05:59.000 It's not a horror movie.
00:06:00.000 It's not really a kids movie because people get shot in the head.
00:06:04.000 Yeah.
00:06:04.000 And boiled alive.
00:06:06.000 But then, do adults want to see, like, hello, my darling, hello, my baby.
00:06:10.000 It's just silly.
00:06:11.000 You just sit here like, ah, what is this?
00:06:13.000 And why is Lil Wayne such a fan?
00:06:16.000 He's like, is he?
00:06:17.000 He is.
00:06:18.000 And really?
00:06:20.000 You hear this.
00:06:20.000 Third chair.
00:06:21.000 You know him.
00:06:21.000 You love him.
00:06:22.000 Go see him December 21st.
00:06:24.000 Let him bring some holiday cheer to your stocking.
00:06:28.000 Yeah, this Saturday in Tulsa.
00:06:29.000 It's this Saturday.
00:06:30.000 Next week I'm in Tacoma.
00:06:31.000 Back home.
00:06:32.000 Excited.
00:06:33.000 Excited for the holidays.
00:06:34.000 Back home.
00:06:35.000 You're a Texan now, my friend.
00:06:36.000 I am a Texan now.
00:06:37.000 I'm even wearing a Buc-ee's jacket.
00:06:39.000 Oh, are you?
00:06:40.000 Yeah.
00:06:40.000 Not a sponsor.
00:06:41.000 Just needed a jacket and a pinch.
00:06:43.000 I'm so tired.
00:06:43.000 You needed a jacket on a road trip?
00:06:46.000 I was.
00:06:46.000 Yeah, I did.
00:06:47.000 I was...
00:06:48.000 I'll tell you what, you're all going to need a jacket for this next road trip because allow me to take you on a voyage across the world to Turkey.
00:06:58.000 Turkish archaeologists now believe that they have actually found the tomb of St. Nicholas.
00:07:06.000 When we read the 5th century paintings, Like the candy cane walking stick.
00:07:25.000 The elves found him.
00:07:27.000 But you don't always eat them with candy cane?
00:07:29.000 No.
00:07:30.000 That's just mean.
00:07:31.000 She's brushing it off with a candy corn duster.
00:07:34.000 Punking Santa Claus.
00:07:35.000 So, this is true.
00:07:36.000 The tomb was...
00:07:37.000 That wasn't even dirt, that was hot cocoa.
00:07:39.000 Yes, it was.
00:07:41.000 The tomb was found buried six feet under the St. Nicholas Church in Demra, Turkey.
00:07:46.000 Unfortunately, as is often the case in Turkey, it appeared as though this may actually be just part of a revenge plot in that the body of St. Nicholas was found to have been taken.
00:07:57.000 Ho, ho, ho, motherfucker.
00:08:03.000 He's getting good work from that.
00:08:03.000 What?
00:08:05.000 I particularly like it when there's another Liam Neeson movie out that's taken but not called taken.
00:08:10.000 Right, exactly.
00:08:11.000 That's every Liam Neeson film borrowed.
00:08:13.000 Well, that's a Christmas movie too now.
00:08:15.000 Yes, exactly.
00:08:16.000 I see what you're doing.
00:08:18.000 I see what both of you are doing.
00:08:20.000 And I'm wearing the new Die Hard.
00:08:22.000 They just try and make it.
00:08:23.000 They just stretch it out.
00:08:24.000 It's like, what do you do, sir?
00:08:26.000 I have a very particular set of skills.
00:08:28.000 In accounting.
00:08:29.000 I'm a conductor.
00:08:31.000 I train.
00:08:32.000 The dark past.
00:08:34.000 Where are you from?
00:08:34.000 Right.
00:08:35.000 I'm from Schenectady.
00:08:38.000 Are you writing the most threatening letter to Santa Claus?
00:08:41.000 Yes.
00:08:42.000 Dear Santa, I want a bike.
00:08:46.000 How much do you value Mrs. Claus?
00:08:50.000 I don't know where your elves are.
00:08:52.000 I like him as Santa, actually.
00:08:55.000 I know he is.
00:08:59.000 When you're awake.
00:09:00.000 It's good for the bones.
00:09:02.000 You better be a good boy.
00:09:03.000 I left your cookies and milk.
00:09:05.000 But you did not consume said cookies.
00:09:09.000 And I've never forgotten them since.
00:09:14.000 All right, Liam.
00:09:15.000 Let's put him in the next Santa Claus.
00:09:18.000 And by the way, St. Nicholas, for those of you who don't know, the inspiration for Santa Claus was a Christian bishop known for generosity.
00:09:24.000 He was a patron saint of children and sailors.
00:09:28.000 Weird mix.
00:09:28.000 I think it's funny that they found it.
00:09:32.000 Like, where did you find the tomb of St. Nicholas?
00:09:35.000 It's under a church.
00:09:37.000 Which one?
00:09:39.000 His.
00:09:39.000 Yeah, his church.
00:09:41.000 Oh, it took us so long to find it.
00:09:42.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.
00:09:44.000 It's almost like, I can't find my sunglasses, but they're on my head.
00:09:47.000 That's it.
00:09:48.000 Was it like a hundred feet underground?
00:09:49.000 No, it was kind of protruding from the floor.
00:09:51.000 The story actually said six feet.
00:09:53.000 I was like, really?
00:09:55.000 His body was found where?
00:09:56.000 Six feet under?
00:09:57.000 Where?
00:09:57.000 Yeah, obviously.
00:09:58.000 Under a church?
00:09:59.000 It was found in the room marked St. Nicholas' Tomb.
00:09:59.000 Which one?
00:10:03.000 We've thought about looking here for hundreds of years.
00:10:07.000 Couldn't find the right candy cane shovel.
00:10:09.000 It's never the first place you look until it is now.
00:10:13.000 They also found a tomb, by the way, under the Church of St. Krampus, unclear to whom the remains belong.
00:10:20.000 I think there's some signs.
00:10:23.000 I'm not sure.
00:10:24.000 My question to you on this topic is, who killed Santa?
00:10:28.000 The FBI. Can you imagine being the person that does that?
00:10:33.000 He looked at the cheat sheet.
00:10:35.000 I did?
00:10:35.000 You did, yes.
00:10:36.000 The FBI. Oh, shoot.
00:10:37.000 I didn't even know.
00:10:38.000 And or Jews.
00:10:39.000 Oh, come on.
00:10:40.000 Oh!
00:10:41.000 They take out all the best!
00:10:47.000 Yes, it was the USS Nicholas.
00:10:53.000 Stop it, guys.
00:10:54.000 Just let it ride.
00:10:54.000 Let's not wade into that quagmire.
00:10:56.000 I'm glad they found the body, though, in Turkey, because I think they were looking for it in Jersey.
00:11:00.000 I thought this was going to put some pep in the step of all the children who had lost their Christmas spirit.
00:11:05.000 We have the corpse of Santa!
00:11:08.000 He is real and dead!
00:11:13.000 What was that?
00:11:15.000 Take your 30 pieces of Turkish delight back!
00:11:19.000 It's just an awful dessert.
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00:11:53.000 Here's something else that is happening.
00:11:55.000 So, look.
00:11:56.000 It's a slow news day, as you can see, by Sanjay Gupta was on CNN today.
00:12:00.000 Talking about brain rot and scrolling.
00:12:00.000 The same story.
00:12:03.000 It's like, not much.
00:12:03.000 Again.
00:12:04.000 I saw it on CNN yesterday.
00:12:05.000 I saw it three times while I was scrolling last night.
00:12:07.000 Yes, exactly.
00:12:08.000 Yes.
00:12:09.000 I was just trying to look at naked girls.
00:12:10.000 Come on.
00:12:11.000 It's 2 a.m., Sanjay.
00:12:12.000 The last thing I want to see is you.
00:12:15.000 And then every naked lady turns into Sanjay Gupta after that.
00:12:18.000 Like, you know, if you're on a desert island with a hot dog, you're like, Oh, Sanjay!
00:12:22.000 It's an imprint!
00:12:24.000 Okay.
00:12:25.000 But this matters because we've talked about this a lot.
00:12:29.000 Everyone talks about their rights.
00:12:30.000 Everyone talks about their rights.
00:12:31.000 And yes, we live in a free society.
00:12:32.000 Rights are very important.
00:12:33.000 And if you want to know which rights are actually inalienable, meaning your birthright here in the United States, check out the Constitution.
00:12:39.000 Check out the amendments.
00:12:40.000 We don't often balance rights with duties.
00:12:43.000 We used to have a sense of duty.
00:12:46.000 Funny enough, duty was very much espoused by the founding fathers who were not communists, who were not collectivists, but who believed that a society could only function if people actually took pride in serving their community and their civic duties.
00:12:59.000 Today we talk about rights, and we talk about rights in the sense of whatever you want to do and everyone else has to pay for it.
00:13:05.000 So in San Francisco, the Department of Health now has hired Virgie Tovar to be its fat positivity expert.
00:13:15.000 The name sounds bad.
00:13:16.000 Of all the things that San Francisco needs, fat expert would not have cracked my top ten.
00:13:23.000 No, I thought they had plenty of those already.
00:13:25.000 But they said she is going to advise on matters of weight stigma and weight neutrality.
00:13:30.000 Let me tell you who this person is.
00:13:32.000 We have a clip, so, you know, warning.
00:13:35.000 According to the website, Tobar is a plus-size Latina author, lecturer, and leading expert on weight-based discrimination and body positivity with over a decade of experience.
00:13:43.000 She is a contributor for Forbes.com, where she covers the plus-size market and how to end weight discrimination at work.
00:13:49.000 Also, she topped their 30 under 500 list last year, so she did quite over.
00:13:55.000 Over.
00:13:57.000 Sorry.
00:13:58.000 Over.
00:13:58.000 Close.
00:14:00.000 That's what happens when we don't write it down.
00:14:02.000 Oh, the picture's nice.
00:14:04.000 Also, it's a little misleading.
00:14:05.000 She actually covers Forbes.
00:14:07.000 Oh.
00:14:08.000 That's what she meant.
00:14:11.000 Oh, my God.
00:14:13.000 This is not just about the fact that this woman is overweight.
00:14:15.000 The fact that this woman is advising now a city council, a city department, and the advice that she dispenses is it will put you in a shallow grave.
00:14:25.000 Not all bodies are healthy.
00:14:27.000 Not all lifestyles are healthy.
00:14:29.000 And we have a healthcare...
00:14:31.000 Well, everyone seems to agree we have a healthcare crisis in this country because so many people gleefully celebrated the death of a CEO of a health insurance company.
00:14:38.000 You think that a rampant obesity epidemic through choice has an effect on your insurance and your premiums?
00:14:45.000 I think it has an effect on the mental health crisis that we're experiencing in this country.
00:14:48.000 So if you ever thought that you were delusional yourself, just take a look here at Tovar's take on...
00:14:58.000 I don't even know what this means, fat liberation.
00:15:00.000 If you are a giant fat lady in the United States in 2024, how much more liberating do you need?
00:15:11.000 You couldn't be more liberated.
00:15:13.000 Clearly there are no constraints.
00:15:15.000 Free the pandas.
00:15:17.000 Let's watch it.
00:15:18.000 To me, there's a lowercase fat liberation and an uppercase fat liberation.
00:15:24.000 Lowercase fat liberation is the stuff I do in my life every day to create fat positivity, like putting as much butter as I want on my toes, like wearing a bikini at the beach, finding a sturdy chair, getting a towel that meets me, telling the truth about my experience with fat phobia and feeling heard and Believed.
00:15:46.000 Not trying to disappear or shrink my body.
00:15:50.000 It looks like asking for weight neutral care at the doctor.
00:15:54.000 It looks like wearing shorts and having visible cellulite or fat rolls and not feeling like I should not show that to the world.
00:16:05.000 Uppercase to me is the world that we create once the culture has decided.
00:16:12.000 To really finally end fatphobia.
00:16:14.000 In that world, fat kids are never taught shame.
00:16:17.000 They're never put on a diet by a doctor.
00:16:20.000 They never stop learning how to move and eat for fun and for joy.
00:16:25.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:16:25.000 I would agree with you that fat kids should never be shamed because we shouldn't have fat kids.
00:16:29.000 They shouldn't be put on a diet by a doctor because their parents should control what they eat.
00:16:32.000 They don't have money.
00:16:35.000 Now, this lady, everything that she just said is wrong, to be clear.
00:16:39.000 And it's not about, you'll say you're being mean.
00:16:41.000 This is not about her.
00:16:42.000 This woman is profiting off of your ill health.
00:16:45.000 You understand that this is for everyone else watching who may try and actually...
00:16:49.000 Listen to her advice.
00:16:50.000 Even worse, people who may see her as affirming their poor decisions.
00:16:56.000 Let me tell you something.
00:16:57.000 You follow this, you will have health problems, and you will die young.
00:17:01.000 Let me be really clear about it.
00:17:02.000 There's no way around that.
00:17:03.000 Trust the science.
00:17:04.000 Remember, this lady wrote her master's on the study of how weight-based discrimination impacted lifelong gender trajectories in women of color.
00:17:14.000 By a white lady?
00:17:14.000 Oh, Lord.
00:17:17.000 I don't fully know.
00:17:18.000 San Francisco, how about dealing with needles and piles of human crap in your city?
00:17:22.000 How about rampant crime?
00:17:24.000 Yeah, Asian hate.
00:17:25.000 Stop Asian hate.
00:17:26.000 Stop Asian hate.
00:17:27.000 Oh, you want to make sure that we study gender norms and trajectories of color as it relates to fat phobia?
00:17:32.000 This woman also is the author of the book, You Have the Right to Remain Fat, which will bring us to a 7 plus 1 later.
00:17:41.000 For a limited time.
00:17:42.000 Anything you eat will be used against you in the hospital.
00:17:46.000 Yes.
00:17:48.000 Anything you say, Canada will be used against you in the food court of law.
00:17:51.000 There we go.
00:17:52.000 That was nice.
00:17:53.000 Brought to you by Sparrow.
00:17:56.000 Every decision's a good one.
00:18:00.000 But this is the byproduct of, look, shame is, you should never shame a child, for example, for, they don't know better, right, for making a mistake, because then those kids won't make more mistakes, they won't take risks, they won't learn things.
00:18:13.000 Shame is a tool that should be used for adults who know better and do the wrong thing anyway.
00:18:20.000 But it doesn't work if people don't have shame because they have no sense of ownership.
00:18:25.000 They have no sense of duty.
00:18:27.000 So, this woman espouses a lot of views.
00:18:30.000 I've gone through her social media, combed through it.
00:18:34.000 Also, shame only works if you are ashamed.
00:18:38.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:39.000 If you know you're wrong.
00:18:40.000 That's how shame is.
00:18:40.000 You know you're wrong.
00:18:41.000 That's why you feel shame.
00:18:42.000 She doesn't.
00:18:43.000 She's not just advocating bad policies for adults.
00:18:45.000 At the end of that, I wrote this down.
00:18:46.000 She said, I want kids to be able to eat for joy and for fun.
00:18:50.000 That is literally not even close to why you eat.
00:18:53.000 It's the definition of privilege.
00:18:54.000 They're just going to tell you it's white privilege.
00:18:56.000 You think that the Hutu tribesmen on the plains are saying, well, what would be fun for dinner?
00:19:02.000 Whatever's around.
00:19:02.000 I don't know.
00:19:03.000 Imagine a world where you're like, let's go have some fun and play dodgeball.
00:19:08.000 No.
00:19:09.000 Let's go eat donuts instead, because that's more fun.
00:19:12.000 Go out and play.
00:19:12.000 More fun.
00:19:14.000 Playing isn't playing anymore.
00:19:15.000 It's eating.
00:19:16.000 I don't want to be misery.
00:19:17.000 It's not where I want you to direct.
00:19:19.000 Yeah, fine.
00:19:19.000 Like, a little bit of joy?
00:19:20.000 But if you've got a fat five-year-old, like a morbidly obese five-year-old, there's a parent that needs a butt kicking right behind that child.
00:19:20.000 Absolutely.
00:19:27.000 Because they have no money.
00:19:29.000 They have no agency either.
00:19:30.000 They can't go and get food on their own.
00:19:32.000 You're bringing it to the left.
00:19:33.000 Is obsessed with abusing children.
00:19:35.000 Do you understand that?
00:19:36.000 With drag queen story hour, with transition surgery for children, with allowing young adolescent women to have abortions and hiding it from their parents as a result of state policy, and with allowing and encouraging young children to destroy their health.
00:19:50.000 So let's get to some of the claims that this expert makes and will be likely dispensing and advising the city of San Francisco.
00:19:58.000 It's time for a claim truth.
00:20:03.000 Since that happened, actually, we just found out that due to her, we found MSG is good for you.
00:20:08.000 Well, everything old is new again.
00:20:11.000 I don't know if MSG is...
00:20:12.000 Can we put cocaine back in Coca-Cola then?
00:20:14.000 Because, woo!
00:20:14.000 Those were good times.
00:20:15.000 Yes, it was.
00:20:16.000 And I believe it was...
00:20:16.000 What was in 7-Up?
00:20:17.000 Was it some kind of...
00:20:18.000 Something.
00:20:19.000 Barbiturate?
00:20:20.000 I don't know.
00:20:20.000 It might have been...
00:20:21.000 Lithium?
00:20:22.000 You guys can let me know.
00:20:22.000 I don't know.
00:20:23.000 I'm not joking.
00:20:23.000 No!
00:20:24.000 There was something in there that was like an antidepressant.
00:20:26.000 Let me get to a claim here.
00:20:26.000 Weird.
00:20:28.000 And this all comes from Virgie...
00:20:29.000 Do I have her name right?
00:20:30.000 Virgie?
00:20:30.000 Veggie?
00:20:31.000 No, that's not right.
00:20:32.000 Virgie's Instagram?
00:20:33.000 There's no way.
00:20:33.000 She's an expert.
00:20:34.000 Here's the claim.
00:20:37.000 That exercising to stop being fat is fatphobic.
00:20:42.000 Can you bring this up?
00:20:45.000 How do you decouple physical movement from diet culture and from fatphobia?
00:20:48.000 It's very, very hard.
00:20:49.000 In our culture, movement is about erasing and eradicating the fat body.
00:20:54.000 My body remembers this fact and it takes so much concentration and encouraging self-talk to begin to do to continue.
00:21:00.000 So here's the thing.
00:21:01.000 She actually wants to find a way to move and not burn calories.
00:21:09.000 This is...
00:21:10.000 She's like, because I want to move, but this is also what happens.
00:21:13.000 You have these people, it's like, it happens with sometimes comedians or, you know, actors.
00:21:17.000 Like, I'm the fat comic.
00:21:18.000 I'm the fat actor, right?
00:21:19.000 That happened with Melissa McCarthy.
00:21:20.000 And then people begrudge you.
00:21:21.000 They begrudge you for losing weight because these people...
00:21:21.000 It happened with Adele.
00:21:24.000 Are blubbery fascists.
00:21:26.000 The truth is that exercising, of course, and getting healthy is not fatphobic.
00:21:30.000 Exercise will not only help you lose weight, but it helps regulate blood pressure, it helps boost your energy, helps you sleep better.
00:21:35.000 Obesity, depression are often interlinked, which may explain why this woman is absolutely miserable.
00:21:39.000 Let's go to another claim that she makes here.
00:21:43.000 And all references are available publicly.
00:21:45.000 We put the links up in the description.
00:21:47.000 She's talking about how you find comfort and how you do this.
00:21:51.000 Here's the advice from the expert.
00:21:54.000 She says, how do you decouple?
00:21:55.000 Okay, here's how you decouple physical exercise from the idea of fatphobia.
00:21:59.000 She says, flowers help.
00:22:02.000 Fact check, they don't.
00:22:03.000 In fact, flower makes you fat.
00:22:05.000 Comfy sweatshirts help.
00:22:10.000 Okay, that does if it's applied to the bystanders.
00:22:12.000 If they're watching you, it would be preferable if you wear a comfy suit.
00:22:16.000 Better than this one's suit, yeah.
00:22:17.000 Then she goes on, she says, not keeping a score helps.
00:22:20.000 All right, let's get to the truth.
00:22:24.000 Keeping score is, in fact, completely a requirement to improved health outcomes.
00:22:30.000 You know who never said that?
00:22:31.000 The winners.
00:22:32.000 Yeah.
00:22:33.000 Keeping score helps.
00:22:34.000 If you want to get healthy, this is not about getting healthy.
00:22:37.000 It's about feeling healthy.
00:22:40.000 It's about feeling good about yourself even when you shouldn't feel good about yourself.
00:22:43.000 What do I mean keeping score?
00:22:44.000 Okay.
00:22:44.000 If you want to lose weight, if you want to lose weight, her case weights, you want to lose weight, Calories must be reduced.
00:22:51.000 You must count calories, or energy output has to be measurably increased to lose weight, meaning you either burn more calories or you consume fewer calories.
00:22:59.000 It's energy expenditure.
00:23:00.000 It has to be, has to be tracked, just to be clear.
00:23:04.000 That is, there's no way around it.
00:23:06.000 Now, some people have slightly faster metabolism, some people have slower metabolism, some people have hormonal profiles that make them feel more hungry more often.
00:23:12.000 We all have different hurdles to overcome.
00:23:14.000 Also, as we're discussing not only energy expenditure, You need to keep score if you want to improve your health.
00:23:21.000 Progressive overload is the one inescapable fact as it relates to strength training, meaning measurably increase your weight, your repetitions, your time.
00:23:32.000 Ideally, some variation of the three is what will improve your strength, which is very important as you get old.
00:23:38.000 It's what will improve your muscle mass if you want to look better, if you want to be more productive, and even bone density, just to be clear.
00:23:45.000 Not keeping score helps.
00:23:47.000 Children, Women?
00:23:49.000 By the way, we don't need to say this to men because if men are fat, they know they're fat.
00:23:53.000 There are no male fat pride models.
00:23:55.000 We'll get to the dad bod thing in a second.
00:23:57.000 Like, show me the male Tess Holliday.
00:24:00.000 Show me the male virgin.
00:24:01.000 No, no, no.
00:24:01.000 Don't take a really, really funny, talented comedian like Chris Farley.
00:24:04.000 They weren't sex symbols.
00:24:05.000 Find me the male equivalent who everyone praises as beautiful and brave.
00:24:09.000 It doesn't exist.
00:24:11.000 Also, monitoring blood pets numbers.
00:24:13.000 I know, that's keeping score, but you need it because your heart is...
00:24:18.000 it's literally keeping score with each beat yes and with oppressive numbers like triglycerides cholesterol certain inflammatory markers like c-reactive protein in other words how can this woman advise a city how can this woman this is the ideology of the left how can this woman advise a city which says don't keep score and that is the only way to improve health Especially in a city with so many hills.
00:24:45.000 Yes!
00:24:45.000 All you gotta do is walk.
00:24:46.000 I know, it's like, you can't all take the streetcar.
00:24:49.000 Look, we'll just hang a couple of ringdings from the trolley and follow it up the hill.
00:24:53.000 Which, by the way, has a weight capacity.
00:24:55.000 Oh no.
00:24:56.000 You don't want that thing malfunctioning and just rolling down the hill.
00:24:59.000 This is just, I know it seems, and it's fun, but it's evil.
00:25:03.000 This is evil.
00:25:04.000 This is actually evil ideology.
00:25:07.000 Here's another claim.
00:25:09.000 She makes this claim.
00:25:11.000 Weight is not a consistent, reliable indicator of someone's health status.
00:25:17.000 Okay?
00:25:19.000 Trust the science.
00:25:20.000 Here's the truth.
00:25:21.000 Weight is one of and often the most reliable indicator of health status.
00:25:25.000 Most importantly, and the reason it's used is because it's the most readily available and inexpensive tool that you have as an indicator of one's health status.
00:25:34.000 It's not the only one, to be clear.
00:25:36.000 But it's a very important one.
00:25:37.000 Your body tells you.
00:25:38.000 And by the way, if you bend over and it hurts.
00:25:40.000 If she wants to add context, that's fine.
00:25:42.000 If you want to take height into account, if you want to take, you know, muscle into account, that's fine.
00:25:47.000 We'll add that to the list.
00:25:47.000 You know what?
00:25:49.000 Of course.
00:25:49.000 I don't think she's scoring any higher, though.
00:25:51.000 No one's saying just being...
00:25:52.000 And this same woman, if you go into Instagram, they bitch about the pharmaceutical industry because they hate Ozempic, right?
00:25:56.000 They hate any type of weight loss drugs.
00:25:59.000 They hate the idea of diabetes being a thing.
00:26:02.000 So they'll talk about big pharma...
00:26:04.000 What do you think big pharma thinks when they go, wait a second, wait a second.
00:26:07.000 If someone comes in and says they have joint aches, we can convince people that it's fat phobic for the doctor to look at their weight first?
00:26:15.000 Oh, so they're going to want to treat the symptom and get them pills, get them pills, get them pills right away.
00:26:20.000 First thing!
00:26:21.000 First, diet, exercise, sleep.
00:26:24.000 That should be the first thing the doctors look at.
00:26:26.000 It cures a lot of what ails you.
00:26:28.000 Not everything.
00:26:29.000 But if a doctor were to bring you into the office and you go, oh my gosh, I have no energy, I feel like I have circulatory problems, I'm losing my vision, my foot is turning blue, and they saw that you were 400 pounds and immediately said, well, let me give you this pill, that is malpractice.
00:26:45.000 That's why I like Asian doctors, because they go right to it.
00:26:48.000 I got a big cavity in my tooth, went to the dentist, dentist said, oh, it's because you're too fat.
00:26:54.000 Eat too many sweets.
00:26:55.000 He goes, oh, too many pork.
00:26:55.000 I said, it's not sweets.
00:26:57.000 Yes, that's more loving, though.
00:26:58.000 It would be more loving for the city of San Francisco to have hog-hunting helicopters just tranking fat people with Ozempic.
00:27:04.000 Okay?
00:27:06.000 It would be a more compassionate solution.
00:27:09.000 Just get some snipers out there.
00:27:14.000 That's a huge bitch!
00:27:15.000 Tagged another hippo!
00:27:17.000 Shoot her!
00:27:22.000 Seriously!
00:27:25.000 Do you need me to say this?
00:27:27.000 Because here's the thing.
00:27:28.000 I'm not the expert, right?
00:27:31.000 Do you really want to do the appeal to authority fallacy?
00:27:33.000 Do I need to tell you that being overweight or being obese contributes to heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes, and yes, even cancers.
00:27:41.000 A 5-10% reduction in weight improves your chances of not getting the above listed illnesses.
00:27:47.000 And by the way, it correlates with each percentage of weight lost.
00:27:50.000 There's no way to escape it.
00:27:52.000 Right now, men and women aren't a thing.
00:27:55.000 Right?
00:27:56.000 It's an escape from reality.
00:27:57.000 It's about how we feel.
00:27:58.000 In this case, it's...
00:28:00.000 No, no, weight isn't...
00:28:01.000 It's an oppression.
00:28:02.000 Fat phobia.
00:28:02.000 There could not be a more privileged leftist point of view in the modern world than fat phobia is oppressive.
00:28:11.000 Obesity is the worst thing to use that feel argument for, too.
00:28:15.000 Because you literally feel like shit.
00:28:17.000 Yeah.
00:28:18.000 I am a fat man.
00:28:19.000 I don't know if you know this, but I'm a little chubby.
00:28:21.000 And some days...
00:28:23.000 I don't feel so good.
00:28:24.000 Well, but you're swinging a hammer, so good for you.
00:28:26.000 Yeah, but I'm not, yeah.
00:28:27.000 So, we'll get to it.
00:28:28.000 That's a whole different thing.
00:28:31.000 Come on.
00:28:31.000 Hey, what?
00:28:32.000 I'll show you at the Christmas party.
00:28:33.000 Old Tripod Josh, they call him.
00:28:35.000 Now!
00:28:37.000 Anchors away!
00:28:38.000 Here's...
00:28:40.000 Jeez.
00:28:43.000 You could excavate Saint Nick's tomb Can I say this, by the way?
00:28:48.000 Fat phobia?
00:28:49.000 Probably one of the best phobias out there.
00:28:51.000 Yeah, yeah it is.
00:28:52.000 You've got a reasonable phobia, yeah.
00:28:54.000 I'm afraid of it.
00:28:54.000 Absolutely.
00:28:55.000 Yeah, yeah, I get it.
00:28:56.000 It comes with death.
00:28:57.000 Yeah, that's a good one.
00:28:59.000 I'll be a Christmas carol like Scrooge.
00:29:01.000 You'll be visited by one spirit.
00:29:02.000 It's the ghost of Christmas past telling you to stop being a fat son of a bitch.
00:29:05.000 You're going to die.
00:29:07.000 We don't have chains that'll fit you down here.
00:29:09.000 One more Peppermint Park and you're going to be in that place.
00:29:14.000 Here's another claim that she makes.
00:29:17.000 That being fat, and this is where we, is a civil right.
00:29:22.000 And it's society, which includes, by the way, doctors, lab workers.
00:29:27.000 You all need to change to accommodate.
00:29:29.000 It's your fault.
00:29:30.000 What we want is for society to do the right thing.
00:29:34.000 And end weight stigma and end weight-based discrimination.
00:29:38.000 We don't need a medication in order to fix a civil rights and a human rights problem.
00:29:44.000 We need societal change.
00:29:46.000 Period.
00:29:48.000 Okay.
00:29:49.000 Here's the truth.
00:29:51.000 You're right.
00:29:52.000 Most people don't need a pill.
00:29:55.000 You need discipline.
00:29:56.000 And here's the thing.
00:29:59.000 You may say some people have it tough, sure, but any way you slice it, my perspective requires more discipline than yours.
00:30:08.000 The person's perspective who works to be healthy, they are more disciplined, they put more effort into their life, and they are more useful to society in general than your perspective.
00:30:20.000 Now, you may have a problem with discipline and say it's a byproduct of oppressive patriarchy.
00:30:24.000 Fine.
00:30:25.000 The truth is that life choices have consequences.
00:30:29.000 Fat is not an immutable characteristic.
00:30:31.000 By the way, I would also argue transgenderism is not.
00:30:35.000 That's a choice.
00:30:37.000 Facilitating yourself into disability is not society's problem, just to be clear.
00:30:44.000 Here's another truth, by the way.
00:30:46.000 These people obviously come from the progressive left, where they support socialized healthcare.
00:30:51.000 That would be a disaster.
00:30:54.000 Fat pride and obesity cost all of us.
00:30:57.000 All of us, a lot of money.
00:30:59.000 Employers and employees, $425 billion annually.
00:31:03.000 $147 to $210 billion a year in medical costs alone.
00:31:07.000 Diabetes, heart disease, cancer.
00:31:09.000 Raises everyone else's health insurance costs, just to be clear.
00:31:12.000 You want to have no denial for pre-existing conditions with no caps and tell society that it should be fat, obese, and it's just as healthy as being fit?
00:31:23.000 What do you think the consequences are?
00:31:25.000 Do you think in any other small village or tribal-like society that fat people existed?
00:31:34.000 They were eaten.
00:31:37.000 They were eaten.
00:31:38.000 You're so fat.
00:31:40.000 My family's starving.
00:31:41.000 Let's just change that a little bit.
00:31:42.000 Guess what?
00:31:43.000 I work really hard so I can support my family and build a better future for my children.
00:31:48.000 I now lose that money, the result of that work, those resources, to pay for you.
00:31:55.000 Where's your sense of duty?
00:31:58.000 Who are you serving?
00:32:00.000 Aside from yourself at Golden Corral, who are you serving?
00:32:06.000 This is the last one.
00:32:08.000 This is the last one.
00:32:08.000 Lots of servings.
00:32:09.000 I'm going to take it serious.
00:32:10.000 Too many servings.
00:32:13.000 One in five children are obese today, and they're more likely to be obese adults.
00:32:18.000 This also affects our national security.
00:32:18.000 You know what?
00:32:20.000 This is why we have army ads with some fat broad and two mommies, and Russia and China laugh, and they have people on Ozempic and Dianabol with shredded abs to get their guys to join the military.
00:32:31.000 68% of active duty members are obese, to be clear right now.
00:32:37.000 It is the primary contributor to injuries for those in service, medical discharges.
00:32:43.000 Just to give you an idea, part of the shortfall that we see in the military in 2022 to 2023, the military recruitment, right, they missed their goals.
00:32:50.000 A big reason was due to obesity.
00:32:52.000 So in Army, 25% short.
00:32:54.000 In the Navy, 20% short.
00:32:56.000 In the Air Force, 10% short.
00:32:58.000 Do you have any idea how fat you have to be to not be eligible for the Air Force?
00:33:03.000 Dude, the BDUs, the camouflage uniforms are not coming triple X. Oh, come on.
00:33:03.000 No.
00:33:09.000 But it does.
00:33:11.000 And this is where we are right now.
00:33:14.000 Like, it's not just about making fun of fat people.
00:33:17.000 This woman is the public school teacher to your children.
00:33:22.000 It's all part of the same ideology.
00:33:25.000 They tell you to trust the science.
00:33:27.000 By the way, don't even notice, here's the little bait and switch.
00:33:29.000 A lot of the sources I just listed, CDC, WHO, the science, right?
00:33:34.000 Oh no, all of a sudden, it's no longer legitimate.
00:33:37.000 The science is legitimate when we're talking about an experimental injection that could not possibly have longitudinal studies.
00:33:44.000 It can't possibly exist at that point.
00:33:45.000 Taking it on faith, that's where you trust the science.
00:33:47.000 But when you have Measurable, quantifiable, over long periods of time and large populations, data that can be used to improve health outcomes beyond a shadow of a doubt, No, it's about how you feel.
00:34:04.000 Don't trust the science.
00:34:05.000 It is evil.
00:34:06.000 It is evil.
00:34:07.000 And by the way, it's so predictable.
00:34:08.000 This is why C. Matheson, if you guys didn't, this was during COVID, C. Matheson doesn't exist, was actually admitted to and praised at a conference for writing the paper in Titled, Embracing Fatness as Self-Care in the Era of Trump, was accepted for peer review.
00:34:29.000 I decided to write and submit my very own fat studies paper for presentation, and with the help of my brilliant researcher, I wrote an entire essay titled, Embracing Fatness as Self-Care in the Era of Trump.
00:34:43.000 I then submitted the abstract to the conference, and, uh, oh, did I say that I... Wrote the essay.
00:34:48.000 I meant to say it was submitted by C. Matheson, a wonderful and totally academically legitimate genderqueer fat pride activist.
00:34:57.000 Hello, I am C Matheson.
00:35:00.000 I am an activist based out of Austin, Texas, specifically working with the non-binary and fat community to help increase presence of intersectional and non-binary people with such events in Austin as Women's March, March for Our Lives, most recently the global climate strikes.
00:35:20.000 My preferred pronouns are she and her.
00:35:25.000 And they took it seriously.
00:35:26.000 They asked to have C. Matheson back.
00:35:26.000 What a hottie.
00:35:28.000 No.
00:35:29.000 Like, after it was released, they still didn't catch on that it was a gag.
00:35:32.000 There needed to be more marches.
00:35:34.000 That would solve some of the problem.
00:35:35.000 Like a C. Monster.
00:35:36.000 And nothing I wrote was stupider.
00:35:39.000 You're a big fat foe!
00:35:43.000 No offense to whoever that is.
00:35:46.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:35:47.000 Feelings matter.
00:35:48.000 And by the way, as we mentioned, and please do comment below if this is something that you've run into that you've experienced and how you think it needs to be dealt with.
00:35:56.000 I think shame is a useful tool as it relates to this.
00:36:00.000 I really do.
00:36:01.000 I really do.
00:36:02.000 And by the way, when I see someone, there's a huge difference between someone who's overweight and working on it and someone who's advocating that everyone else also engage in the practice of putting themselves in a grave at an early age.
00:36:17.000 There's a huge difference.
00:36:18.000 I hope you understand that.
00:36:20.000 And it is a double standard.
00:36:21.000 We're going to get into the double standard of male-female body images in society at large.
00:36:26.000 I'll give you a hint.
00:36:28.000 I think it's actually worse on guys.
00:36:29.000 Allow me to make my case.
00:36:30.000 But as we mentioned before, Tovar, or Virgie, is the author of multiple books, including The Self-Love Revolution, Radical Body Positivity for Girls of Color, and You Have the Right to Remain Fat, which actually brings us to this week's 7 Plus 1. This week, 7 plus 1, actually, she wrote other books as well.
00:36:57.000 Oh, really?
00:36:58.000 Not all of them were published.
00:36:59.000 This is 7 plus 1, police-themed fat book titles.
00:37:03.000 Okay.
00:37:05.000 As they should be.
00:37:06.000 Yes.
00:37:07.000 Number 7, Josh.
00:37:08.000 The French Dip Connection.
00:37:10.000 Oh, I love a good...
00:37:11.000 I do love a good French dip.
00:37:13.000 That's true.
00:37:17.000 I want to drink it!
00:37:20.000 7 plus 1 police-themed fat book titles.
00:37:23.000 Number 6, Gerald.
00:37:25.000 NYPD Blue Bonnet.
00:37:27.000 Number 5. Butter up, boys.
00:37:30.000 Number 5, Kinder Egg Cop.
00:37:32.000 That was wonderful.
00:37:36.000 Number 4, Josh.
00:37:38.000 Number 4, Bad Boys, Fried or Die.
00:37:41.000 Oh, the wise-cracking.
00:37:43.000 Why not both?
00:37:44.000 Fried and died.
00:37:45.000 Yes, that's true.
00:37:46.000 Number three, these are police-themed fat pride books.
00:37:50.000 Gerald?
00:37:51.000 Bavarian Feels Cop.
00:37:52.000 Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
00:37:54.000 That makes sense.
00:37:55.000 You gotta put the banana in the tailpipe.
00:37:57.000 Seven plus one, police-themed fat book titles.
00:37:59.000 Number two, The Thick Blue Vein.
00:38:04.000 That's the best part!
00:38:08.000 That's the best part!
00:38:12.000 And the number one of the 7 Plus 1 police-themed fat book titles, Stop or My Cholesterol Will Shoot Through the Roof.
00:38:21.000 The Plus 1, Josh, take us out.
00:38:23.000 21 Pump Drink.
00:38:24.000 Hey, that's for this week's 7 Plus 1. You forgot Stefan in the chamber!
00:38:33.000 21 Pump Drink, that's a shout-out to everybody who loves Dutch Brothers.
00:38:37.000 Yes.
00:38:39.000 We do have them now in Texas.
00:38:39.000 That's right.
00:38:40.000 I remember.
00:38:41.000 I think so, yeah.
00:38:42.000 You know what?
00:38:43.000 Here, too, I don't want to be somebody who doesn't provide some solutions.
00:38:45.000 I mean, the solution, obviously, this is largely personal responsibility.
00:38:48.000 But how about this?
00:38:49.000 Comment below if you think that this makes sense.
00:38:51.000 How about we start with, we want to solve the obesity problem.
00:38:55.000 We want to solve a health problem.
00:38:56.000 Because I get it, you can be larger, you can be smaller, and you can still be healthy.
00:38:59.000 How about we limit any and all food stamps, EBT, subsidies, to only healthy or raw ingredients?
00:39:07.000 Meaning milk, meat, Eggs, fruit, vegetables.
00:39:11.000 Yep, you can toss butter in there.
00:39:13.000 I say leave it to raw ingredients because you can find things that are raw.
00:39:14.000 You can eat unhealthy and have your unhealthy lifestyle, and we're not going to be phobying you or whatever if you want to go buy noodles and cheese sauce.
00:39:22.000 You make an alfredo by yourself.
00:39:24.000 It's not the healthiest meal, but hey, I don't think you should be able to buy alfredo candy.
00:39:29.000 No.
00:39:31.000 What?
00:39:32.000 I don't know.
00:39:33.000 It's a new candy.
00:39:34.000 It's an Italian candy.
00:39:35.000 What's my curiosity?
00:39:36.000 I'll try it.
00:39:37.000 It's a silky smooth cheese.
00:39:39.000 Hard candy.
00:39:40.000 It's a crazy breadsticks candy.
00:39:41.000 From Lifesavers.
00:39:45.000 In a lot of states, you can go to fast food restaurants.
00:39:48.000 Yes.
00:39:48.000 And then you will bitch about a food desert.
00:39:50.000 Well, who created the food desert?
00:39:52.000 I know.
00:39:53.000 And by the way, before you think we're heartless, look at the number one thing that people buy that are on food stamps.
00:39:57.000 Soda.
00:39:58.000 Yeah.
00:39:58.000 About 10% estimates say go towards soda.
00:40:01.000 All the purchases that are made.
00:40:03.000 And by the way, they have lobbyists who then go to the government and say, please ensure that EBT and food stamps continue to be permitted for soda.
00:40:09.000 Oh, by the way, you know who else is really big on that?
00:40:11.000 The corn lobbying for high-fructose corn syrup.
00:40:15.000 It does.
00:40:15.000 When people say it doesn't affect me, it does.
00:40:17.000 This is not about what you put in your body.
00:40:19.000 This is about demanding that we pay for it and the ramifications and the laws that we have that protect what should be very much an unprotected class.
00:40:26.000 Meanwhile, Big Mike is being celebrated as this epitome of health.
00:40:30.000 Who's Big Mike?
00:40:31.000 Oh, Michelle Obama.
00:40:32.000 Oh!
00:40:33.000 Wait.
00:40:33.000 Mikey Obama.
00:40:34.000 She's not over all tripod Mikey.
00:40:36.000 Mikey O. Hey, that's me, buddy.
00:40:38.000 Wait, that's true.
00:40:39.000 Were you fitness, the black bitch?
00:40:43.000 By the way, you know who else wants this?
00:40:44.000 Coca-Cola.
00:40:45.000 They estimate around 20% of their revenue in the United States comes from people on food stamps buying sugary drinks.
00:40:51.000 Candy is in the top 10. I believe all the prepackaged chips and popcorn and stuff like that, that's in the top 5 to 7 products that people buy.
00:40:58.000 It's like, look, this is survival.
00:41:00.000 This isn't get fat off of eating this stuff.
00:41:04.000 This isn't getting as much sugar into your body as possible.
00:41:06.000 A, that's not healthy.
00:41:07.000 And B, that's not a good way to get calories anyway.
00:41:09.000 I can come to terms with paying for your eggs.
00:41:12.000 I cannot come to terms with paying for your soda.
00:41:15.000 Go sell drugs or something like a normal person.
00:41:18.000 This is the first time in history...
00:41:20.000 Where we equate obesity with poverty.
00:41:23.000 You realize that?
00:41:24.000 Fatness used to be seen as a sign of wealth.
00:41:26.000 It used to be seen like, oh, royalty, because they're one of the very few people who get to enjoy the luxury of overabundance.
00:41:32.000 Now it's associated with poverty.
00:41:34.000 Think about that for a second.
00:41:37.000 When you see those commercials of how many people in the United States are starving, you go, but how do you have a higher percentage of poor people who are morbidly obese?
00:41:45.000 How does that happen?
00:41:46.000 At what point do you say, hey, hold on a second.
00:41:48.000 Yeah.
00:41:49.000 We're going to make this livable but uncomfortable because we want you...
00:41:54.000 What incentive does someone have if they are poor and they get to enjoy nothing but empty calories and television and phones?
00:42:01.000 How is that good for society?
00:42:03.000 And then they want to tell you...
00:42:04.000 They advise your cities like San Francisco and tell you how to raise your kids lest you be oppressive.
00:42:10.000 So let's link EBT, any type of food stamp subsidies, to healthy wrong reasons.
00:42:15.000 Here's another one.
00:42:16.000 How about a tax credit?
00:42:17.000 For good health.
00:42:18.000 People want to bitch about Big Pharma?
00:42:20.000 How about we incentivize people, or maybe it goes into an HSA. Maybe it's a tax break, where if you have a BMI within a certain parameter, blood work, you are actually encouraged to take preventative care measures.
00:42:20.000 Okay.
00:42:34.000 That's one thing we don't actually take into account in this country.
00:42:36.000 And you know who loves the, we just treat the symptom and throw pills at it.
00:42:40.000 Hey, you hate Big Pharma and you think we're over-medicated, but you don't want to deal with diet, exercise, and your weight?
00:42:40.000 Well, yeah.
00:42:46.000 You don't want any kind of a solution.
00:42:48.000 You want someone to pat you on your unsquatted ass and tell you that you're fine.
00:42:52.000 That's where they got their name, Big Pharma.
00:42:54.000 Yes.
00:42:56.000 Oh, look, they're called Big Pharma.
00:42:57.000 They're called Big Pharma.
00:42:59.000 Rolling down the hill.
00:42:59.000 I know I can tell that because of the ground shake when they come out.
00:43:02.000 Yeah, Big Pharma?
00:43:04.000 Go on down yourself to the swamp, pick yourself up, Big Pharma.
00:43:09.000 So let's move on to this too.
00:43:11.000 Is there anything else we can hit?
00:43:12.000 Let's move on to right now.
00:43:14.000 This post is generating controversy.
00:43:17.000 Going on the other side of the coin with males.
00:43:21.000 Why am I looking at 7 plus 1?
00:43:21.000 This...
00:43:25.000 It says, dad bods are the top male physique.
00:43:28.000 This has 49 million views on this tweet.
00:43:31.000 This is a dad bod?
00:43:32.000 That's a dad bod.
00:43:33.000 Yeah, bring it back up.
00:43:34.000 Well, son of a gun.
00:43:35.000 Thought I had a dad bod.
00:43:36.000 I got a great grandpa bod.
00:43:39.000 So, let me be really clear here, too.
00:43:42.000 We just showed you Virgie, and I just saw dad bod.
00:43:47.000 Now, dad bod is usually equated with someone, especially like after becoming a father, and there actually is a physiological response where testosterone often decreases because they say it might be an evolutionary mechanism to be staying at home or to, you know, have a period of nurturing, but tend to put on a few pounds, right?
00:44:03.000 So, dad bod is seen as someone who's not particularly fit.
00:44:05.000 It was not seen typically as a very desirable body type And this is what is being shown right now.
00:44:13.000 Bring that back up again.
00:44:14.000 That is dad bod.
00:44:15.000 If that's dad bod, then Virgie is ant bod, for sure.
00:44:18.000 Yes, exactly.
00:44:20.000 Virgie is...
00:44:21.000 Virgie is barely even human, and I don't mean that as...
00:44:25.000 It ceases to actually be comparable to other human being body types.
00:44:29.000 You understand that?
00:44:31.000 Yeah, if you silhouetted, it would look like an evolution table.
00:44:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:44:35.000 So, to give you an idea, when we talk about this, and these unrealistic standards for women...
00:44:41.000 The ideal male body fat percentage for fitness is 14 to 17%, to be clear.
00:44:48.000 14 to 17%.
00:44:49.000 If you are too lean, you will actually, your performance will suffer.
00:44:54.000 Cardiovascularly, as far as strength, we know as far as a man performing at his 14 to 17%.
00:44:59.000 Okay.
00:45:00.000 That's not crazy.
00:45:01.000 That's what that guy is right there.
00:45:03.000 Dad bot.
00:45:03.000 By the way, go to the gym right now.
00:45:05.000 Go to the gym.
00:45:06.000 Find guys lifting heavy, heavy-ass weights.
00:45:08.000 Okay.
00:45:10.000 And watching their diet, not being obsessive, not being a bodybuilder, and ask them to take off their shirt.
00:45:10.000 Regularly.
00:45:14.000 You know what you'll find?
00:45:16.000 DadBot.
00:45:17.000 You will find DadBot.
00:45:19.000 That's fine if you think that that's dad bod.
00:45:23.000 The problem is when there are standards that are hyperly unrealistic for one half of society and basically none for the other.
00:45:31.000 Women often complain about how they have to uphold these standards and men don't.
00:45:36.000 I would present to you that the exact opposite is true.
00:45:39.000 That's exhibit A, dad bod.
00:45:40.000 But you know what else?
00:45:40.000 Let's look right now just at the magazines.
00:45:43.000 I believe these are from this month or the last two months on the stands.
00:45:46.000 Let's look at women's magazines and the women on the cover of those magazines.
00:45:50.000 These are women on the cover of magazines.
00:45:52.000 You have Cosmopolitan, you have Elle, and you have Women's Fitness right there.
00:45:56.000 Look at that.
00:45:57.000 You have a pretty good spread there.
00:46:00.000 Hey, I don't know if you know this, those are all, I would argue, reasonably attainable body standards.
00:46:07.000 None of them are anorexic.
00:46:08.000 I know there's airbrushing and stuff on the cover.
00:46:11.000 It would be, if you were to go into a doctor's office, Anywhere from the 1950s to the 1990s, most women would be within striking distance of that shape.
00:46:20.000 There's a standard on the women's magazines.
00:46:23.000 Let's look, for contrast, at men's magazines right now.
00:46:28.000 Look at that.
00:46:31.000 Oh, I can get down to that pretty quick.
00:46:34.000 Yeah, I could, you know.
00:46:35.000 So in one case, it's just don't be fat.
00:46:38.000 In the other case, it's you have to be large, muscular, and shredded.
00:46:44.000 Yeah, on the women's magazine, it's like models.
00:46:46.000 On the men's magazine, it's the greatest athletes in the world.
00:46:49.000 Yes, Christian McCaffrey is one of them.
00:46:51.000 Was he?
00:46:52.000 Yeah, it's like, I saw Bronny was on one of them.
00:46:54.000 Men's health is Christian McCaffrey.
00:46:55.000 One of the best basketball players, the best running back in the league.
00:46:58.000 Yeah.
00:46:59.000 I don't know who the other two guys are.
00:47:00.000 So what, I have to look like Sidney Sweeney?
00:47:02.000 Well, I have to look like The Rock?
00:47:04.000 Do you have any idea?
00:47:05.000 And by the way, one is actually relatively healthy, the generalized female standards.
00:47:11.000 One is not.
00:47:13.000 That's why I say 14-17% is the ideal male body fat for performance.
00:47:17.000 To get what people say they are below 10%, It is very, very difficult to do.
00:47:24.000 People who are on stages, you know, Mr. Olympia, provided they got their knees for Joe Weider, if they are on the cover, they often involve diuretics, steroids.
00:47:33.000 These things are not required.
00:47:34.000 These things are not required for a woman to measure up to the ideal body center.
00:47:39.000 Let me present to you another exhibit.
00:47:41.000 So I showed you the magazines that women read.
00:47:43.000 And then the magazines that are directed towards men, those standards.
00:47:46.000 Here's something else that's very telling.
00:47:47.000 Women, the unrealistic body standards, first off, they don't really exist.
00:47:52.000 And they certainly don't exist because of pressure from men.
00:47:56.000 Now let me show you the men's magazines that have women right now as pinups, showing what they find attractive.
00:48:01.000 Shwing!
00:48:03.000 None of that is crazy or unrealistic.
00:48:05.000 Marilyn Monroe to Audrey Hepburn to those three right there.
00:48:09.000 You could go down to the local mall, a restaurant, and barring the new obesity trend, grab ten women at random, and at least half the women would be within striking distance of that.
00:48:21.000 How many of them do you think look like The Rock or Zac Efron when he was doing, what was that, Baywatch?
00:48:29.000 You just can't have standards for one and not for the other.
00:48:33.000 On one side, you have fat pride and all bodies are beautiful.
00:48:37.000 But here's the reason why you mentioned shame.
00:48:39.000 It's not going to work with guys because fat guys know they're fat.
00:48:42.000 You know why?
00:48:43.000 Other guys told them.
00:48:44.000 Yes.
00:48:45.000 Also, mirrors.
00:48:46.000 Yeah, mirrors exist.
00:48:48.000 We have a self-regulating body, typically, of men.
00:48:51.000 You mess with somebody.
00:48:53.000 You rib them a little bit.
00:48:54.000 Yeah.
00:48:54.000 Not because you hate them, because you're like, hey, take some corrective action here.
00:48:58.000 We're competitive, too.
00:48:58.000 Things are getting out of control.
00:48:59.000 It's very competitive.
00:49:00.000 If I see a guy doing something that I can't do, I'm like, ah, crap, it's because I exercise or I eat too much or whatever.
00:49:07.000 To give you an idea, I believe average female body fat is between 18 to 28% for women who are aged 18 to 30. Most guys will find you attractive.
00:49:20.000 Just to be clear, if you are average, Most men will find you attractive.
00:49:24.000 That's a fact.
00:49:25.000 In other words, you're a little bit curvier, right?
00:49:27.000 You're a little bit skinnier?
00:49:28.000 Okay, fine.
00:49:28.000 You have a little more meat?
00:49:29.000 Okay, fine.
00:49:31.000 They just ask that you not be unhealthy.
00:49:33.000 And that's not so much the fault of men.
00:49:36.000 It's because we're hardwired to want to reproduce.
00:49:39.000 Women ask for, and again, when you're just looking at the hunks who they hold up, they ask for six-packs, which exist only in teenagers and drug dealers.
00:49:49.000 Or drug addicts.
00:49:50.000 Do you have any idea how difficult it is, barring crazy genetics, for a man?
00:49:55.000 Like, if a man doesn't have a six-pack, it's dad bod?
00:49:58.000 I got to four once.
00:49:59.000 You got to four?
00:50:00.000 I got to four pack.
00:50:01.000 Oh, I thought you said four percent.
00:50:02.000 I'm like, no, you did not.
00:50:03.000 No one gets to four percent.
00:50:04.000 No, I got to a four pack and it took five months in a war zone.
00:50:10.000 And a lack of food.
00:50:12.000 It just took Clarissa, what's her name, finding you and Clarissa Ward in a prison.
00:50:16.000 Josh, it's okay.
00:50:16.000 It just took being, you know, having hours and hours a day where I don't have anything else to do.
00:50:22.000 It's very good.
00:50:23.000 Except for go work out or, you know, a lot of heavy stuff to do all day.
00:50:26.000 Yeah.
00:50:26.000 It takes a lot of work.
00:50:28.000 Yeah, and I'm not saying, by the way, that that...
00:50:30.000 It's an amount of work that you don't want your man to do, by the way.
00:50:33.000 Right.
00:50:33.000 No, you don't.
00:50:33.000 You're like, oh, I want you to have a six-pack.
00:50:35.000 Well, you want me to be out of the house and away from you for six hours a day?
00:50:38.000 Right.
00:50:38.000 You want me to eat separate meals because you don't want to have protein shakes for lunch?
00:50:42.000 We have to weigh out the grams of my chicken and my rice.
00:50:42.000 Yeah.
00:50:45.000 You want me to do that to you?
00:50:46.000 Yeah.
00:50:46.000 You want me to go, oh, that's a little bit too much of salmon for you on your salad?
00:50:49.000 Can we go out and have fun?
00:50:50.000 No, I got to get 10 hours of sleep.
00:50:52.000 We're hitting the hay by 9 p.m.
00:50:54.000 Yeah.
00:50:56.000 By the way, it's not even fair to say there's only one type of dad bod.
00:50:59.000 There's baby dad bod, there's father bod, there's stepdad bod, there's stay-at-home dad bod, there's Trinidad bod.
00:50:59.000 There are a bunch of them.
00:51:05.000 That's a different...
00:51:06.000 There's Baghdad bod, which, by the way, that's not one I would recommend.
00:51:10.000 No, he's dead.
00:51:13.000 Not for Baghdad.
00:51:15.000 He's fine.
00:51:17.000 I think that was the old guy in the prison cell from Aladdin.
00:51:19.000 He's a leader.
00:51:20.000 He's sought after in Baghdad.
00:51:21.000 He's well fed there.
00:51:22.000 That's because, you know what?
00:51:23.000 It's actually not this.
00:51:25.000 This is just the dressing.
00:51:26.000 It's my confidence.
00:51:27.000 Yes, yes.
00:51:28.000 I'm just like, it's just one of those things like...
00:51:33.000 Do you have any idea how much easier it is to be a female fitness influencer today on Instagram than it is to be a male fitness influencer?
00:51:40.000 Look at the female influencer.
00:51:40.000 Oh, it's a different thing.
00:51:41.000 It's women who aren't fat.
00:51:43.000 Who do some glute work twice a week and they wear yoga pants that have an ass stenciled on their ass like the Batman suit.
00:51:51.000 There are literal profiles that have the word fitness in it and it's a fat lady.
00:51:56.000 Yes.
00:51:56.000 There are tons of them.
00:51:58.000 I follow them.
00:52:00.000 And the men, it's lighting, it's angle, it's dieting down, it's dehydration.
00:52:06.000 You want a dad bod?
00:52:07.000 Okay, a good portion of the NFL would be dad bod.
00:52:09.000 Every single athlete in the world's strongest man would be dad bod.
00:52:13.000 The NHL would be just filled with dad bod.
00:52:17.000 Your gym, the fittest guys in your gym would be dad bod.
00:52:19.000 Mr. Olympia!
00:52:21.000 Not on stage, two months later, would be dad bod.
00:52:25.000 And we have to hear people like Virgie bitch about unrealistic beauty standards that exist exclusively to women.
00:52:33.000 Women, you keep doing this, guess what?
00:52:36.000 It sounds like screeching, and guys are going to check out of the dating pool.
00:52:42.000 Because they're going, wait a second, I've got to be six foot, and I've got to have six feet?
00:52:45.000 If I don't have a six-pack, I'm going to be seen as dad bod?
00:52:48.000 And you have a blood-type pudding?
00:52:52.000 Lay off me!
00:52:53.000 I'm starving!
00:52:55.000 It's the biggest problem.
00:52:56.000 It's the biggest problem.
00:52:57.000 I'm telling you that this generation faces the male-female dynamics.
00:52:59.000 And it's because of crap like this.
00:53:00.000 It's no small issue.
00:53:01.000 And certainly, look, protect your children.
00:53:03.000 Guard your children.
00:53:04.000 Do not let people like this be an influence on your children.
00:53:08.000 It's not healthy.
00:53:08.000 It's not right.
00:53:09.000 And the funny thing is, what is perfectly healthy?
00:53:12.000 Dad bod, as you see in that picture, is seen as mediocre.
00:53:16.000 That's mediocre.
00:53:17.000 That's dad bod.
00:53:19.000 They're going to replace PE class with second lunch.
00:53:22.000 Yeah.
00:53:24.000 Hey, good for that guy.
00:53:25.000 Good for that guy.
00:53:25.000 Soda lunch.
00:53:27.000 If guys put in some work.
00:53:28.000 Listen, if I get there, I'd be like, that's pretty good.
00:53:30.000 Yeah, of course.
00:53:31.000 I could do it.
00:53:31.000 It'd probably take six months, but...
00:53:33.000 Anyone would.
00:53:33.000 I could do it.
00:53:34.000 Yeah, good for you, and congrats on your work.
00:53:36.000 It obviously takes a lot of work, and some lady just minimalized it by saying you don't do anything.
00:53:41.000 Yeah, well...
00:53:41.000 Dad bod.
00:53:42.000 Dad bod's the guy, you know, he's not out of shape, but he's not...
00:53:47.000 He's not like the most physically fit.
00:53:49.000 That's what a dad bod is.
00:53:49.000 That's what it's close to me, right?
00:53:50.000 Because, you know, he works for a living.
00:53:52.000 He works and he takes care of his kids and every once in a while he does some push-ups.
00:53:55.000 Yeah.
00:53:56.000 That guy does push-ups every couple hours, probably.
00:53:59.000 That guy is training properly.
00:54:01.000 And by the way, right now, you can let them know, Gerald.
00:54:04.000 Yeah, 40% off merch right now, site-wide.
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00:54:08.000 Go get the Die Hard is a Christmas movie shirt.
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00:54:15.000 Whoa, dude!
00:54:16.000 I don't think you can say that.
00:54:18.000 Oh, like the bomb, like all for one.
00:54:18.000 The bomb shirt?
00:54:22.000 Nice shave, nice shave.
00:54:23.000 You're going to love it.
00:54:25.000 Don't buy that one, I think is what I'm trying to say there.
00:54:27.000 But we've got some other ones.
00:54:28.000 I wore the Santa Claus one, the Santa Trump, that says Don't Stop Believin', out in public, and people just kept staring at it.
00:54:34.000 Oh, by the way, I wanted to take a chance just to thank, this is not a sponsor to the show, but Easy Meat, some Brazilian guys in Florida.
00:54:40.000 They were nice.
00:54:41.000 They sent me...
00:54:42.000 If you guys are looking for something special, like for Christmas, that you want to try, they have expensive meat, but like Australian Wagyu beef, it was the best food that I've ever put in my mouth.
00:54:53.000 You didn't even need to chew it.
00:54:55.000 So it's not, I think they sell like everyday steaks, but they just sent a package, the thank you, Paulo Figueiredo knew them, he set it up because these guys are Brazilians and they're very tribal people.
00:55:03.000 What's it called?
00:55:04.000 Easy Meats.
00:55:05.000 Is that easy or easy the word?
00:55:07.000 No, easy the word.
00:55:09.000 Not like easy E who gets to it.
00:55:11.000 I'm stuck with an HIV needle.
00:55:14.000 Yeah, sure.
00:55:15.000 That was Easy E, right?
00:55:16.000 Easy E was the one, yeah, I got the AIDS. But easymeats.com, and they can ship their stuff too, I guess.
00:55:21.000 They're going to ship me a prime rib for Christmas, so I'm looking forward to it.
00:55:24.000 So again, not a sponsor, just good guys who sent me great stuff.
00:55:27.000 I've never had better meat in my life.
00:55:30.000 I'm just very enthusiastic.
00:55:31.000 I still dream about it.
00:55:34.000 Cool.
00:55:35.000 Alright, let's go to Trump and the TikTok ban right now.
00:55:38.000 We're a month out from the inauguration.
00:55:40.000 This is one that's kind of gone back and forth.
00:55:42.000 What do you think about this?
00:55:44.000 Do you think this is a First Amendment issue, a freedom of speech issue?
00:55:46.000 Businesses can do whatever they want issue?
00:55:48.000 Or do you think this is, we need to be aware of a foreign threat issue considering the ownership of TikTok and considering the censorship that has taken place?
00:55:58.000 Full disclosure, I have not been on TikTok for, gosh, I don't know, a year and a half.
00:56:03.000 Do we find that stinger again?
00:56:05.000 Yeah, I got it.
00:56:06.000 Oh, do you have it?
00:56:06.000 Can we do it?
00:56:07.000 Let's do it for fun.
00:56:08.000 Okay.
00:56:08.000 It's in the map, but I'll do it.
00:56:10.000 Oh, is it?
00:56:11.000 Well, I didn't want to wait.
00:56:12.000 Okay. - I love that figure.
00:56:24.000 We were allowed on TikTok for a very long time until we said that Xi Jinping had a small wiener.
00:56:24.000 That was fun.
00:56:30.000 And we said that he was Winnie the Pooh.
00:56:32.000 Yeah, but it was more so about the small wiener, I'm pretty sure.
00:56:34.000 Well, that's statistically accurate.
00:56:37.000 I don't know.
00:56:40.000 I don't know.
00:56:41.000 Hey, stop shaming people, Gerald.
00:56:42.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:56:43.000 Stop it.
00:56:44.000 Not everyone is a 6'4 Aryan.
00:56:46.000 All right.
00:56:48.000 So Monday, Donald Trump, and this has sort of lit the internet ablaze, he suggested that she was an amazing guy and...
00:56:58.000 People have right to be alarmed, but it could just be positioning himself for some leverage.
00:57:03.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:57:03.000 Let's play the clip.
00:57:04.000 Because China and the United States can together solve all of the problems of the world, if you think about it.
00:57:13.000 So it's very important.
00:57:14.000 And, you know, he was a friend of mine.
00:57:16.000 I mean, he was here for a long time, right in that spot, except sitting in a very comfortable chair.
00:57:21.000 He wasn't standing like you are.
00:57:23.000 But we spent hours and hours talking.
00:57:27.000 And, you know, he's an amazing guy.
00:57:30.000 The press hates when I say that, but he's an amazing person.
00:57:38.000 And also, by the way, he invited to the inauguration.
00:57:42.000 Previously, she accepted an invitation to Trump's birthday, so this is nothing new.
00:57:47.000 Yeah, I guess.
00:57:47.000 There you go.
00:57:48.000 Aww.
00:57:51.000 It's just a party of two?
00:57:53.000 I love the lettuce wraps.
00:57:56.000 We don't eat in China.
00:57:57.000 Oh, what do you eat?
00:58:00.000 Rat cooked in sour shit.
00:58:02.000 Gross!
00:58:03.000 We'll take the banana spring rolls.
00:58:04.000 Yes.
00:58:06.000 Look, they make the hot sauce at your table.
00:58:09.000 That's fun.
00:58:10.000 They really don't.
00:58:10.000 They don't.
00:58:11.000 Well, they mix it.
00:58:12.000 So...
00:58:15.000 Trump seems to be waffling a little back.
00:58:17.000 Do they still do that?
00:58:18.000 They do.
00:58:19.000 They'll mix the sauce for you if you want.
00:58:20.000 Yeah.
00:58:21.000 It's always weird.
00:58:21.000 The guy came up and he's like, how spicy do you want?
00:58:24.000 I'm like, your name is McDonald.
00:58:26.000 You're Irish.
00:58:27.000 He's like, I don't know.
00:58:27.000 I have to do this.
00:58:29.000 See the horses out front?
00:58:30.000 That's pretty cool, right?
00:58:31.000 Yeah, that's pretty cool.
00:58:32.000 What is that supposed to be?
00:58:33.000 I don't know.
00:58:34.000 Is it Asian?
00:58:35.000 Japanese?
00:58:35.000 I don't know.
00:58:39.000 It's disgusting.
00:58:40.000 That's what you're eating.
00:58:41.000 Yes, exactly.
00:58:43.000 And then he was asked about the TikTok ban.
00:58:46.000 Ben, we're going to get into this.
00:58:47.000 You know that I have been pro either they need to divest, meaning the Chinese government, effectively, or ByteDance, I should say, the company that holds TikTok.
00:58:55.000 It needs to go to an American company.
00:58:57.000 Or, yeah, then there needs to be a ban because of what we know as it relates to collection on Americans, your data, and it being stored and monitoring your points of view.
00:59:09.000 It's not...
00:59:10.000 It's not just about a company, it's not an open platform, and this is a potential foreign threat.
00:59:15.000 So I understand why people are a little confused here.
00:59:19.000 Donald Trump was pro-TikTok ban, and now it seems like he might be against it.
00:59:22.000 But again, there is a world in which there could be some stipulations attached that could end up improving the online ecosystem.
00:59:28.000 So Monday, Donald Trump was asked about the ban, and his answer here was kind of, I guess you could say lukewarm.
00:59:36.000 How do you plan to stop the ban on TikTok next month?
00:59:39.000 We'll take a look at TikTok.