Louder with Crowder - 🔴 They Are Lying Because They Are Losing: ICE Shooter, White People, & ... Bees? 2025-09-25 18:11

00:00:00.000 At your political enemies with the eye of the government is wrong.

00:00:03.000 When I mean nothing could be more hypocritical.

00:00:05.000 I mean, no, I was gonna get to that.

00:00:07.000 After all of the trumped up charges that we had against the president and trying to essentially put him in jail so that he could not run.

00:00:13.000 He was the presumptive nominee at the time and likely winner.

00:00:17.000 We knew that.

00:00:18.000 We knew that he was probably going to win or at least be favored by some margin to win, whether or not that panned out, or I think a lot of people still thought he was going to win.

00:00:26.000 And they were trying to put him in jail to keep him from essentially being able to run.

00:00:29.000 Like how is that not interference?

00:00:31.000 And it was it's one of these crimes where you can look at it and go, clearly, you had business leaders on both sides of the aisle come out and say, in New York City, like we we've done this stuff all the time.

00:00:41.000 Nobody's ever been like charged for stuff like this.

00:00:43.000 Plus there was no victim in the crime.

00:00:45.000 The bank actually approved the loan and did their due diligence.

00:00:48.000 Everybody was fine until you guys came in and started trying to do this to to stop him from running.

00:00:53.000 And it seemed like this was just charge a charge, charge, charge, see what sticks.

00:00:56.000 Right.

00:00:56.000 We did the undercover reporting, stacking charges to see if they could make a case.

00:01:00.000 Um I understand that we could say that, but I I think listen, I think there's some merit in in being true to the principles of our side, even in the face of that.

00:01:10.000 Now, some people are like, You're weak, man, you're gonna have to go after them.

00:01:14.000 Listen, I do want to go after them when they've clearly broken the law, because I feel like things like this come up as political kind of footballs and then go away.

00:01:23.000 And what we don't see is that they're never really gonna get anything out of this.

00:01:26.000 And so I I am not for political theater.

00:01:29.000 I am for putting the fear of God in people to make sure that they know if they commit a crime like this, then they will be prosecuted.

00:01:36.000 But I think that really only happens when you get a conviction.

00:01:39.000 Am I wrong?

00:01:39.000 I I think you're right.

00:01:40.000 I think the the the reality is that folks will get, you know, you'll get some airtime over having brought an indictment, but if you can't follow it through, it does start to hurt your credibility.

00:01:49.000 And that's and and that's a big concern.

00:01:51.000 Folks on the right who are saying, look, if you're gonna shoot, don't miss, right?

00:01:54.000 So let's let's go and do it.

00:01:55.000 And that was the same argument that was made on the other side.

00:01:57.000 I know that you're a gun guy, but I mean, you know, legally is what he's talking about.

00:02:01.000 My goodness.

00:02:02.000 This is a good point.

00:02:03.000 Thank you too.

00:02:03.000 Yeah.

00:02:04.000 Um But but the but the point still stands here.

00:02:07.000 Actually, shoot.

00:02:08.000 Let's not have our use of our resources and going here.

00:02:11.000 And and one argument I would say is good a fair point on the left right now is why did you wait this long?

00:02:17.000 Yeah.

00:02:18.000 Right.

00:02:18.000 So what's the difference between a month ago, three months ago, eight months ago?

00:02:22.000 It's not like new evidence came out, at least that we know of.

00:02:24.000 It was reported in July by um Tulsi Gabbard.

00:02:27.000 So I know they probably had it prior to that.

00:02:29.000 They came out with it.

00:02:30.000 Maybe they were putting a case together, doing more due diligence to try to put stuff together.

00:02:34.000 But it doesn't seem like it's that far down the chain.

00:02:37.000 Yeah.

00:02:37.000 Right.

00:02:38.000 And maybe making a political calculation, like a weighing of, hey, can we get actually get anything out of this?

00:02:42.000 Right.

00:02:42.000 And it may also be, hey, we've got to preserve it, we've got to get it done by the statutory limitations.

00:02:46.000 And that's unfortunate.

00:02:47.000 The longer you wait to make this happen, the more it's gonna look like.

00:02:50.000 So now let's say that the indictment is brought, right?

00:02:52.000 An entitlement is returned on a true bill, it goes forward, and then a month from now they realize, hey, you know what, the evidence isn't that clear.

00:02:59.000 It's gonna immediately be a chalk up win on the left. 0.92

00:03:01.000 Of course.

00:03:02.000 Right.

00:03:02.000 And that will not whether it is a chalk-up win or not is not going to change the underlying facts.

00:03:07.000 What did he say?

00:03:08.000 What did he know, etc.?

00:03:10.000 So it's unfortunate, but it is a question of are we gonna be a country that follows the rule of law and push it forward?

00:03:16.000 I agree.

00:03:17.000 Um and in these instances and being consistent.

00:03:19.000 Yeah.

00:03:19.000 Well, and I know you're gonna stay with us for for chat, so if you guys have any questions for uh half white bill, I w I have one more question unless it's related to this.

00:03:26.000 No, it's just timely.

00:03:28.000 Okay, we can go to CNN real quick.

00:03:30.000 So you can see uh go, go, go.

00:03:32.000 Go.

00:03:32.000 If you're a democrat listening to him going on and on and about it, I wanted you to see this lady who is uh me in glasses and a wig.

00:03:39.000 Call me the one who basically flew everyone.

00:03:42.000 She was talking and it was like, oh my gosh, it's like looking in a messed up mirror.

00:03:46.000 It's actually Steven.

00:03:48.000 Ah it is.

00:03:49.000 That looks like C. Matheson.

00:03:51.000 That's uh that's me with glasses and a wig for sure.

00:03:53.000 Not this guy.

00:03:55.000 He should be putting him on crush more.

00:03:57.000 Anyway, they're having fun over there at CNN.

00:03:59.000 Well, they're talking, I mean, listen, Pam Bonnie doesn't have a lot of credibility left. 0.98

00:04:02.000 And this goes to the point that I was making, Bill.

00:04:04.000 Like, I'm not I'm not into political theater.

00:04:06.000 I'm really not.

00:04:06.000 Like, I understand there is a place for some of things like this, but I want actual convictions, right?

00:04:12.000 I I feel like, you know, every like Tim, like, we want people to pay for what they do, right?

00:04:17.000 Like, we're not I'm I'm not a big fan of Pam going on Fox News and saying, hey, I'm gonna go after these guys and listing a bunch of names, but then nothing ever happens.

00:04:24.000 Aaron Powell Yeah, I feel like if she doesn't make this happen, then all credibility of hers is lost.

00:04:29.000 It is.

00:04:29.000 I mean, it already is lost.

00:04:30.000 Like nobody But if there's any hope of saving anything, she's gotta actually go after people that break the law, but it needs to be really, really clear.

00:04:38.000 So if you're and it seems like the only person that has any faith in her right now is the administration, m more namely Donald Trump.

00:04:44.000 President Trump is like the only person left, I think, in America that has it was last week or earlier this week when he was saying she might go down as the greatest AG in American history.

00:04:56.000 And if she doesn't follow through with this, um, you know, well, I think that's he's gonna have a problem with it because a reoccurrence of the Epstein list.

00:05:05.000 I've got it on a good desk, it's coming out, right?

00:05:07.000 Yeah, we've got Comey dead to rights, we're gonna bring the indictment, and if it falls apart, because listen to what we're saying.

00:05:13.000 We're like, you pumped it up, so you set the expectation that it's gonna be something amazing and that it needs to happen.

00:05:19.000 Because the reality might be is that he did know we can't prove it.

00:05:22.000 Yeah, right.

00:05:23.000 He did know what was going on, and we can't prove it.

00:05:25.000 That doesn't mean he didn't do it.

00:05:27.000 Or it might be that he even admits he does it, but for some evidentiary reason, we can't get the indictment, right?

00:05:32.000 So we're so focused on these milestones and then setting these expectations, letting them get dashed, and it's a win for the other side, it's demoralizing.

00:05:40.000 And they run out into the media to to talk about these and champion like the fact that law and justice and order are being served and we're gonna get this guy, and then nothing ever happens with it.

00:05:48.000 So it they add to it, they pump it up and then it doesn't do anything.

00:05:51.000 Really quickly, last question on this case.

00:05:53.000 What could the sentence be?

00:05:54.000 Like what kind of punishment would potentially or what it what's the men and max, but what's reasonable for something like this?

00:06:00.000 Aaron Powell So there's jail time, it's a few years, it's uh my recollection is single digits and then up to 250,000 dollar fine.

00:06:06.000 So um this statute is very broad, right?

00:06:09.000 I mean, it it covers a number of things.

00:06:11.000 Uh it could be something very small related to you know, filling out forms with the government, it could be testimony on a matter of national security affecting an election.

00:06:19.000 So the statute is very broad, um, but it would be jail time and monetary fine.

00:06:24.000 I think to me, and and you know, check and chime in.

00:06:28.000 I think to a lot of people, the the more important thing isn't the jail time or the fine 250,000 dollar fine, which he can afford.

00:06:34.000 The most important thing is is for it to be out there and be like, look, we told you.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:39.000 They found him guilty if see what they did.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, look what they did.

00:06:42.000 We were telling you, they just showed a montage on CNN, laughing, making fun of Trump because he says, uh I I don't know if they're gonna do it.

00:06:48.000 I I don't really care either way, but they have like a montage of him back to 2017 saying we got to prosecute Comey, and it'll be just uh an eye-opener for everybody.

00:06:57.000 Like, look, he wasn't crazy.

00:06:59.000 Yeah, well, let me and let me let me try and get a reasonable, like a reasonable middle ground result that it might be that we see behind the curtain, we see these underlying facts, and that this indictment is the way to bring attention to show that they knew it.

00:07:13.000 But maybe there is not a way to get to the legal hurdle of proving the mindset of Comey when he was testifying that he knew those things, he remembered them.

00:07:22.000 It is literally a defense to this that you forgot.

00:07:25.000 Yeah.

00:07:25.000 So all he has to be able to say is I forgot.

00:07:27.000 You have to prove that in the moment of the testimony on September 30th, that he knew and he chose to ignore the facts that he knew.

00:07:34.000 It's an incredibly high standard.

00:07:36.000 But that doesn't have to be the win.

00:07:37.000 If we're if enough people look at what he had in his files and the attention is on it, and you look and it discredits Comey and it discredits that administration, that's a real win because it allows America to go, okay, James Comey, not the best source.

00:07:53.000 Yeah.

00:07:53.000 Right.

00:07:53.000 There was this nefarious things that were happening.

00:07:55.000 So I want to manage those expectations to say you may not get that checkbox, the judgment, the liability, the jail time, but you might still prove the point that bad actors were doing bad things.

00:08:06.000 Yeah.

00:08:06.000 Well, look, I think at the end of the day, we want to make sure that our politicians are held accountable.

00:08:10.000 And unfortunately, in the age of Hillary Clinton and all of these other people that we have been talking about, there have been real crimes committed and no accountability whatsoever.

00:08:22.000 Right.

00:08:22.000 Uh, and that's a real problem for us because that let puts us in a very strange space here where let's just say that Hillary Clinton was tried and convicted of deleting or having classified information on her remote server or all the stuff that was on her computer, the bleach bit and everything else, and that she deleted evidence and that she was spoliation or whatever it's called.

00:08:42.000 Let's say that that happened and she just she served six months or she was just fined. 1.00

00:08:47.000 But at least there's a conviction, you did something wrong, you paid a penalty for it, right?

00:08:51.000 We could at least point back to that and go, okay, they're at least they're getting into this.

00:08:55.000 They're actually holding people accountable.

00:08:57.000 Right now, I think people f feel so much like nobody is being held accountable on either side, and Epstein, even though it seems like they knew all along what was going on.

00:09:06.000 James O'Keefe just dropped a story about Epstein potentially being a CIA asset and working for Massad uh in some ways.

00:09:13.000 Like there was there's a whole lot there, and we've all thought maybe that's a potential reality, but this was the first time I think somebody from the administration had said that that potentially could have had that information.

00:09:23.000 Go make of it what you will, but check it out.

00:09:25.000 I mean, people are so frustrated, they're like, you gotta convict somebody now.

00:09:28.000 You know, for rushing to do it.

00:09:29.000 So here's the thing.

00:09:30.000 Here's the here's what I would say is listen a question to everyone here, even to chat, is if you knew that the Clintons were immune for every crime that they've ever been alleged to have done and the ones that they actually did, right?

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:43.000 But they blew the whistle on everyone else.

00:09:46.000 On themselves.

00:09:47.000 They admitted everything, right?

00:09:49.000 They brought the receipts, they proved it.

00:09:51.000 They did it all.

00:09:52.000 Was that justice or was it not?

00:09:54.000 Because I would say in the short term, you've given up to the criminals, but you've smashed the conspiracy, right?

00:10:01.000 You've pulled back the curtain on the machine.

00:10:04.000 So is it justice that they got away, that they're not gonna live on an island and have billions of dollars or whatever it is they do with Soros?

00:10:10.000 Well, whatever, right?

00:10:11.000 But how what is the short-term win and what is a long-term win?

00:10:14.000 And I would say with Comey, whether there's an indictment or not, if you can pull back the curtain and show the lies and the conspiracy and the work and the active undermining of our president and our government and the system, that's a longer term.

00:10:27.000 That's a that's a huge win.

00:10:28.000 And look, when it comes to Bill and Hillary Clinton, I think the appropriate punishment is that Bill has to live with Hillary Clinton and have sex at least once a week for the rest of his life.

00:10:34.000 I wouldn't wish that on my worst.

00:10:36.000 So I think that is enough to make it.

00:10:39.000 I wouldn't even wish that on you, Gerald.

00:10:41.000 Well, thank you, Bill.

00:10:42.000 I appreciate that.

00:10:43.000 Um let me let me do this, and then we're gonna take chat.

00:10:45.000 I just want to spend a couple of minutes on this.

00:10:47.000 Hillary Clinton actually went on uh what was it, uh morning Joe uh yesterday and had some interesting things to say about the Constitution.

00:10:57.000 I think the story, our story is all the more glorious.

00:11:00.000 I agree, Joe.

00:11:02.000 Look at where we came from, what we fought through.

00:11:06.000 I mean, even Abraham Lincoln's life, even Abraham Lincoln's own words, even Abraham Lincoln's own evolution.

00:11:14.000 You can't look at this American story and not be proud because of that progress.

00:11:19.000 Well, I wish you would record that and literally go play it outside the White House and the Congress 24-7 because I love my country and I love it, you know, more than all the people who are.

00:11:31.000 And I'm proud of the fact you've got to be a good thing.

00:11:32.000 Your love is shown in a work in progress.

00:11:35.000 You know, we haven't gotten to the more perfect union, and we fought a civil war over part of it.

00:11:40.000 And people have been protesting, you know, for hundreds of years uh that you know things were not as they should be, given our ideals and how we should be uh uh uh moving toward them.

00:11:52.000 So that's what makes us so special as a country.

00:11:57.000 And the idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it, white men, uh a certain persuasion, uh certain religion, uh certain point of view, a certain ideology.

00:12:14.000 It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for.

00:12:19.000 And we were on the path toward that.

00:12:21.000 I mean, imperfectly, lots of you know, bumps along the way, but I agree with you, we were on the right trajectory.

00:12:28.000 I'm sorry, you um turn it back to a time that never was, where this country was dominated by let's just say it, white men.

00:12:37.000 You mean the founding of this country and a very large part of the history?

00:12:42.000 And I'm not listening I'm not saying it only takes white men to make these kinds of things happen.

00:12:46.000 I'm just saying that this country was founded by white men and made amazing by white men. 0.76

00:12:55.000 We try to make it better.

00:12:56.000 That's why it's a constant forming of a more perfect everyday union, and we have ups and downs, but hopefully the trajectory is up and to the right, even in some of the dips, we we we recover.

00:13:08.000 A time that never was.

00:13:10.000 What do you think we're trying to do?

00:13:12.000 Look at the country that we have today, and in Hillary Clinton's eyes, we were on the right track when it comes to, you know, my husband, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and maybe even as much as I didn't like old C now Joe, he was a little bit more my cup of tea. 0.73

00:13:25.000 That's the right track.

00:13:27.000 Look at the culture of this country.

00:13:30.000 It's not that people are out there saying white, black, Hispanic, Asian.

00:13:33.000 We're saying there's no difference between male and female anymore.

00:13:38.000 You want to trans children? 1.00

00:13:41.000 You want to make a free market society into a socialist top-down government-controlled society?

00:13:48.000 You want to limit speech and people's rights to defend themselves?

00:13:52.000 That is not this country.

00:13:54.000 And I've come to the conclusion that they never wanted it to be this country.

00:13:58.000 Their more perfect union is the complete opposite of the perfect union.

00:14:03.000 That is what they want.

00:14:04.000 They want the opposite of what our founders set out to create.

00:14:10.000 Warts and all means you understand that freedoms come with responsibilities, and it also comes with duties that people have to be able to have a voice in this country and vote.

00:14:21.000 That's a conversation that we have just lost.

00:14:24.000 I just I don't understand people like Hillary Clinton coming in and saying like we were getting better when everybody out there that is in any way remotely close to the center, Democrats or Republicans, and everybody on the right was saying, look at what we've done.

00:14:39.000 My God, you have people out there claiming right now that we fought on the wrong side of World War II because of the state of our culture.

00:14:48.000 Does that really sound like we're heading in the right direction to you?

00:14:52.000 How could we be so far apart?

00:14:53.000 That's right.

00:14:54.000 That's right.

00:14:55.000 You want to create a system where the elites tell everybody else what to do.

00:15:00.000 And not bring everybody up so that people can succeed based on their own merit, but bring everybody down so that everybody has just enough food for the day, maybe, if we allow it.

00:15:12.000 That's the kind of perfect union I think Hillary Clinton and her ilk want. 1.00

00:15:16.000 And listen, I for a long time have said, oh no, no, no.

00:15:18.000 It's just, you know, they have a different idea of how to get to prosperity.

00:15:21.000 And some of them do.

00:15:22.000 Not the Clintons.

00:15:23.000 Not people like her.

00:15:24.000 People like her need to go away. 1.00

00:15:26.000 People like her should have been put in jail for some of the stuff that she did. 1.00

00:15:29.000 At the very least, right now, people like her need to be ignored.

00:15:32.000 Because that kind of crap just does not sit.

00:15:35.000 On the voting thing, really quickly, do you think it would be a great idea to, I don't know, open up the border to, let's say, a hundred million Muslims and let them come in and vote.

00:15:44.000 Do you think they're gonna keep what we have, or do you think they're gonna vote for something else?

00:15:49.000 Because they have no idea what freedom looks like.

00:15:52.000 Coming from, say, Indonesia or Saudi Arabia.

00:15:57.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:15:58.000 Probably gonna bring a woman president. 1.00

00:16:00.000 Ah.

00:16:01.000 You know how those are.

00:16:02.000 I don't have a problem.

00:16:03.000 I don't have a problem with people immigrating and becoming American.

00:16:06.000 I don't have a problem with male I don't have a problem with women voting. 0.87

00:16:10.000 I'm not an idiot, but this country used to have a problem with people who had no s no stake in this country voting. 0.98

00:16:17.000 Or a loyalty higher than the United States.

00:16:20.000 Catholics, I'm looking at you. 1.00

00:16:22.000 They had a real problem thinking maybe they're gonna take orders from the Pope before they're gonna take orders from the president.

00:16:27.000 So maybe we shouldn't let these people vote.

00:16:28.000 I don't understand what what time she's referencing.

00:16:31.000 Uh the Indians. 0.99

00:16:33.000 The Native Americans.

00:16:34.000 I think it's fantastic, no wheels.

00:16:36.000 I think what she meant was uh we were on the right track until I lost a primary the uh to a white guy, so they let me run for president, I lost that, and now we're here.

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:48.000 I just I'm sorry I saw that.

00:16:49.000 We have some gosh.

00:16:50.000 We have some breaking.

00:16:51.000 Uh you know, breaking this news.

00:16:52.000 And then we'll we'll do Chat Thursday in just a minute, but let's go ahead and do the breaking.

00:16:55.000 Um yeah, so the Turkish uh president, is that right?

00:16:58.000 President or is Prime Minister?

00:17:00.000 Prime Minister and President uh the Turkish leader, uh President Erdogan is at the White House, and Trump said, I'd like to have him stop by oil from Russia while Russia continues its rampage against Ukraine.

00:17:13.000 So that's nice.

00:17:14.000 We have a lot of.

00:17:14.000 It sounds like George Bush.

00:17:17.000 All right, real quick.

00:17:18.000 I'd like to have him stop buying any oil from Russia while Russia continues his rampage against Ukraine.

00:17:27.000 And they've been fighting, they've lost millions of lives already, and what's graceful.

00:17:35.000 And I said let it keep going because their economy is absolutely terrible right now.

00:17:42.000 And uh I think it's I think it's a shame that they're doing that, killing a lot of people unnecessarily.

00:17:48.000 And do we have uh do we have the numbers like do we know how much oil that they're buying from Russia?

00:17:54.000 Turkey is the third uh biggest importer of Russian fossil fuels.

00:17:57.000 So that would be a big blow If we uh got them to stop.

00:18:01.000 Billions of dollars.

00:18:02.000 India thought you were a friend's EU idiots funding both sides of this war.

00:18:08.000 No, I was kidding.

00:18:09.000 I need to admonish you for that.

00:18:11.000 Both of us.

00:18:13.000 Don't you Tim?

00:18:16.000 Don't do it.

00:18:18.000 Okay.

00:18:22.000 Yeah.

00:18:23.000 Let's go really quickly and we'll we'll keep talking, but let us go to Chat Thursday.

00:18:28.000 Chat.

00:18:33.000 All right.

00:18:34.000 Chat Thursday.

00:18:35.000 I want the very best that you have chat Thursday and no just ridiculing me or playing that pony whatever thing that's going to be.

00:18:46.000 Well now I gotta search.

00:18:47.000 Now we gotta actually get different chats.

00:18:49.000 Okay.

00:18:49.000 All right.

00:18:49.000 Well, let's anything for Bill too on this legal stuff while we have an expert here.

00:18:54.000 Returning fire asks half Asian lawyer Bill, this is quarter Asian Kyle. 0.95

00:18:59.000 Quick question.

00:18:59.000 It's currently illegal to carry in Cali.

00:19:02.000 How so?

00:19:02.000 Ma uh Marbury versus Madison much?

00:19:04.000 Do I misunderstand the concept?

00:19:07.000 No.

00:19:08.000 Um so the illegality of carry one, we've got the division of state and federal, and so then we have the Constitution and its ability to say, okay, even the Bill of Rights can be relatively limited.

00:19:19.000 And so what you need is you've got to be able to have cases that are going to challenge the specific states and their limitations.

00:19:24.000 I'm not familiar with what exactly the limitations are in California, but if any of it's there, what it's got to be is it's gotta be specifically challenged, or you've got to apply your national precedent like Heller, etc.

00:19:35.000 and get those courts to go, yep, you've got to strike down this specific statute or the specific regulation.

00:19:41.000 Were you at a ball game last night?

00:19:46.000 No, I I was just like running around yelling all day yesterday.

00:19:49.000 And uh why are you running around the office yelling?

00:19:52.000 What's going on?

00:19:53.000 People need to do their shows.

00:19:54.000 Okay, that's right.

00:19:54.000 Okay, fine.

00:19:55.000 Thank you.

00:19:56.000 You gotta get those bellable hours.

00:19:58.000 Go, go, go, go.

00:20:00.000 Um yeah, okay.

00:20:01.000 Perfect.

00:20:02.000 I think I think that's reasonable.

00:20:03.000 If you have a problem in your state, uh, you know, it's gotta be challenged and uh taken up to the Supreme Court.

00:20:07.000 Yep.

00:20:08.000 Because they're not gonna vote for you.

00:20:09.000 So, you know, you gotta keep going.

00:20:10.000 That's gonna cost a little money, take a little time though.

00:20:12.000 So we need some, you know, pro pro gun groups out there to be able to do that for people to have a lot of people.

00:20:16.000 And there are a number of them.

00:20:16.000 If you're if you're not sure every specific state either has a national organization or a local chapter that's bringing these suits.

00:20:22.000 Okay, cool.

00:20:22.000 Next chat.

00:20:23.000 All right, next chat from Short Stack Attack for Bill.

00:20:26.000 Have you heard about the Hassan Piker controversy?

00:20:29.000 He seems to constantly incite political violence and support terrorism on stream.

00:20:32.000 Why does no one do anything unto this guy?

00:20:34.000 Yeah.

00:20:34.000 So the standards, oh man.

00:20:36.000 So this this tension between the First Amendment and what you're allowed to do, right?

00:20:40.000 The whole like fire in a crowded movie theater versus like fighting words, those limitations are very tight.

00:20:46.000 They're very narrow as to what is inciting violence because what someone subjectively hears and decides to go do is very different.

00:20:53.000 You also have to have someone who has standing.

00:20:55.000 So who is the person that is being activated as a result of that, right?

00:21:00.000 Let's go back and do the other side of this, right?

00:21:02.000 When folks were saying, oh, Trump sent everyone to the White House or to the Capitol building to go into the Capitol building, right?

00:21:09.000 When you're really saying that the j you know, the generic, hey, we need to stand up, we need to fight against this, etc.

00:21:14.000 Right.

00:21:14.000 What are you specifically talking about?

00:21:16.000 Was this a call to action?

00:21:17.000 Are you actually taking that specific word?

00:21:20.000 Are you taking the specific words and acting on behalf of it?

00:21:23.000 That's where it gets really, really hard.

00:21:24.000 And frankly, we have a tendency, which I think is a good tendency, to allow that free speech to occur.

00:21:30.000 It's when it's specific violence that's coming and specific directive.

00:21:34.000 It's the difference between saying, hey, go shoot that person and you, John, go specifically shoot Sally.

00:21:41.000 You specifically go open fire at a facility, something like that.

00:21:45.000 I think Hassan Pikers, some of his comments have been kind of over the line.

00:21:50.000 Yeah.

00:21:50.000 In the past.

00:21:51.000 I don't understand how he's the darling of the left.

00:21:54.000 And uh I just did this this this world that we live in, man.

00:21:58.000 It's it's really strange.

00:21:59.000 You know, question for you that I don't know if anybody's gonna ask.

00:22:01.000 Do we have a YouTube question for anybody?

00:22:03.000 Not not from YouTube, but on the conversation about leadership.

00:22:07.000 If you do, let's bring it up because I don't want to usurp somebody else's question.

00:22:10.000 But with Hassan Piker, um and I'm a free speech advocate, right?

00:22:14.000 I want him to be able to say what he wants.

00:22:16.000 Same thing with Destiny and those guys, unless it's across the line and actually calls for violence.

00:22:22.000 And then I don't I don't think that the first thing that you should do is just remove people from platforms.

00:22:26.000 I think there needs to be some corrective action taking like, hey, look, you you can't call for violence.

00:22:29.000 I don't I know you weren't trying to in this particular case.

00:22:31.000 Or if they really were, then you know, I think that law enforcement needs to figure that out.

00:22:36.000 Right.

00:22:36.000 Because that's a that's a problem for everybody.

00:22:38.000 Um but when the right does anything even remotely close to that, you're canceled from every single thing and all of the potential avenues for promotion and everything else completely dry up and go away.

00:22:48.000 And you lived through that with this show and kind of how it was treated for years and still is being treated that way, and yet they can spew some of the most vile crazy things and because they're on the left it seems not to matter.

00:23:00.000 But anyway, the the YouTube thing yeah let's get to that.

00:23:03.000 So you know the the the people are often they will say free speech, free speech, but it's actually remember back to even you know Adpocalypse, right?

00:23:11.000 It was the issue of what is a private company allowed to do within its own rules.

00:23:15.000 Right.

00:23:15.000 And our position had always been you can run your business how you want, you just can't engage in fraud, which is saying we allow this content to occur but then when we don't like it, we will either not not change the rules and take you off or we'll proactively change the rules retroactively right.

00:23:30.000 Right.

00:23:30.000 So we went back to two year old video that you did that now violates our rules that we just made.

00:23:35.000 Correct.

00:23:35.000 And now you're gone.

00:23:36.000 Correct.

00:23:36.000 So that that is an issue but it's also the risk that runs you being on a platform, right?

00:23:40.000 You could go to a business every day and then they go, you know what, we're not open today.

00:23:43.000 We're not open on Fridays and people will complain and you have a complaint but you don't have a legal action.

00:23:48.000 Right.

00:23:48.000 So here when we have private companies who are taking action really what they're doing is they're being biased but that bias does not mean that it's a violation of free speech.

00:23:57.000 Right.

00:23:57.000 They may be saying hey I'm gonna limit it right I'm gonna limit the kind of speech I have on this platform or just a digital town square basically saying who can and can't have a a shop to speak from it.

00:24:08.000 So when you get to Section 230, right, that's a little bit different.

00:24:11.000 It is and that's the case that never seems to come.

00:24:13.000 Yeah you know and it seems like one of the most clear cut things I know that it didn't get into the legal jargon related to it and it gets more complicated but it's like it seems like a very clear thing that the president honestly if he signed an executive order tomorrow just clarifying and saying you got to pick a lane the world would be a better place because of it.

00:24:30.000 It would absolutely change.

00:24:32.000 Absolutely would be better.

00:24:33.000 All right let's ask the the the chat question on you still seems relevant.

00:24:36.000 Uh Abraham Asmade S asks has YouTube released an official apology to Steven for the adpocalypse event and have you tracked what channels have been reinstated.

00:24:45.000 We are tracking the channels so we're going to be keeping a list of those because one of the things and Gerald and I were just talking about this earlier and also Papa Crowder and I were talking about it before the show is what is going to be the kind of uh consequences that will happen now that there's an admission related to the Biden administration's suppression of certain accounts based on viewpoint.

00:25:04.000 Is there an opportunity for uh recompense or is it just simply going to be a look we're gonna do better going forward.

00:25:10.000 And here's the thing I would say on on yeah I like recompense that means guys that means give us the money best um but you know on one hand I would also say like we know people within these organizations who had been fighting the administration and had been threatened right so on one hand you're like okay um what what should they have done at the time we can say you should have done more you should have blown the whistle on it.

00:25:35.000 Absolutely but is now our point going to be well throw them all in jail now because they cooperated with the government the one that had all the tanks right the one who said we'll yank all of your licenses we'll pressure you we'll get rid of you right um it it's a it's a thorny situation but we know they cooperated.

00:25:51.000 We know they played ball and it can't go without punishment.

00:25:54.000 It needs to there needs to be punishment.

00:25:56.000 Honestly I think the I I think if I could speak for or from a creator perspective, not me, but like if I was in kind of place of the creators in general.

00:26:06.000 Yeah no one thought you were a creator.

00:26:07.000 Thank you.

00:26:10.000 To remove all doubts.

00:26:11.000 That is legal advice by the way.

00:26:13.000 I I think the creators would take recompense so like replace my lost wages because that's something that or my lost income because that's something that I can never get back and it you have to figure out how to approximate that over over time.

00:26:26.000 And also make sure that something like this never happens again.

00:26:30.000 Like can't ever happen again.

00:26:32.000 And having kind of robust kind of features measure reparations, Gerald is that what you want?

00:26:38.000 No not reparations because well I mean technically I guess so but in this case it's not like it's my great great great grandfather who didn't own any slaves at all being you know the bad guy.

00:26:47.000 So this is like hey three, four years ago can't you get over it?

00:26:51.000 What people own X and Twitter and all the other stuff.

00:26:55.000 Listen I get it but at the same time it's like how how like not everybody is Steven Crowder.

00:27:01.000 Right?

00:27:02.000 Not everybody had the opportunity to have so many of you guys.

00:27:05.000 Like right now, the live number of people is probably a little lower than we normally have.

00:27:09.000 But it's probably higher than almost every other show out there's live viewer number, except for a handful on this space.

00:27:17.000 Like it's a giant audience.

00:27:19.000 Not everybody had that.

00:27:20.000 And not everybody had that kind of support.

00:27:21.000 And it the impact is one where we'll never fully know the impact, right?

00:27:25.000 There will be creators who didn't who literally did not live long enough to see this day.

00:27:30.000 There are creators who could not survive, who are now doing other jobs, whose voices were going to be.

00:27:34.000 They had to go and do something else because they couldn't.

00:27:36.000 That that was my point.

00:27:36.000 Like we had mug club, and thank God we had you guys.

00:27:39.000 We appreciate it every single day we talk about it.

00:27:42.000 They didn't.

00:27:43.000 And so they just came and went because YouTube turned off the money.

00:27:46.000 Like creators just disappear off the face of the planet because they said something really not all that controversial, and YouTube said, Well, this is not friendly.

00:27:54.000 And we know that there are ways for YouTube to kind of segment out for advertisers so that they can make sure that some advertisers don't end up next to something they don't want to be next to.

00:28:01.000 I think as advertisers, you have a right to say, hey, there's certain content, like uh we don't want to be a part of pornographic content.

00:28:06.000 Like that that's reasonable, right?

00:28:08.000 To say that.

00:28:08.000 Or we don't want to be a part of XYZ content.

00:28:10.000 Let's just stay off of those kind of channels.

00:28:12.000 That's fine.

00:28:13.000 But saying no advertisers can advertise on the space with obviously there's plenty out there that want to, that's not fine.

00:28:20.000 And that's exactly what they've done.

00:28:21.000 So I I hope that there's some right like let's let's file for the money, Bill.

00:28:26.000 Let's go after them for some kind of like.

00:28:28.000 Well, there's gonna be as we flesh out and see more of the information behind what was said with the administration, right?

00:28:33.000 This is gonna be battles versus wars, right?

00:28:36.000 What can we do to make sure that this isn't gonna happen again?

00:28:38.000 Because I would absolutely say it's not worth paying back creators if that just means that in the future this is gonna happen again.

00:28:44.000 No, I agree.

00:28:45.000 The other part is But they have to do both in my opinion.

00:28:47.000 Well, I don't think they can go, okay, fine, like what other place we go, okay, fine, we'll never do it again.

00:28:52.000 Right.

00:28:52.000 But here now now remember, and we let's go full circle back to Comey, right?

00:28:56.000 What are the types of actions that we're taking?

00:28:58.000 What are the next things?

00:28:59.000 Oh who were the ones that were doing the pressure, who were the ones in the government, in the administration, how do we pull back the curtain on that?

00:29:05.000 Because if what we're saying is we want to make sure that private citizens and businesses don't comply with the government, right?

00:29:14.000 Really, what we should be looking at is how do we prevent government from being able to do that in the first place?

00:29:19.000 Right.

00:29:19.000 And so I think there's a multi-prong approach.

00:29:21.000 We need to get more information.

00:29:22.000 We need to take this moment and go dive in as far as possible to find out how it happened.

00:29:27.000 Who are the kinds of people on both sides of the government and the tech companies who were obeying, giving the commands, who are the ones who were obeying, reward the ones who weren't obeying, right?

00:29:38.000 That's where we go when we talk about consequences.

00:29:40.000 Stick with the rumbles and the other creators and the platforms that said we're not gonna go that way, right?

00:29:45.000 Remember Parlour.

00:29:47.000 Right.

00:29:47.000 Disappeared.

00:29:48.000 Gone.

00:29:48.000 Overnight.

00:29:49.000 Right?

00:29:50.000 Overnight.

00:29:50.000 So there were those who were fighting and maybe lost to history, right?

00:29:54.000 And there are those who stuck around and continued to back those because you knew what their values were, right?

00:29:58.000 Yeah.

00:29:59.000 Like Rumble.

00:29:59.000 Rumble is the only place that like truly has free speech.

00:30:02.000 I know X has made a lot of strides, but there's still some limitations with that.

00:30:06.000 Rumble is the place, and that's why we are here fighting the good fight.

00:30:08.000 All right, next chat.

00:30:09.000 All right, next chat from Skank Hunt.

00:30:11.000 40 second of the city.

00:30:12.000 But Bill, I don't want you to forget about the money part of this, okay?

00:30:14.000 Listen, the money part's really important because your hourly rate is pretty high if we're just between friends.

00:30:19.000 Correct.

00:30:19.000 Get the money.

00:30:20.000 Okay.

00:30:21.000 All right.

00:30:22.000 Skank hunt, 40 seconds of its name.

00:30:24.000 With new scum and California Democrats putting laws in the books to find social media companies to obliterate free speech.

00:30:30.000 What can we do to get this recognized as unconstitutional ASAP?

00:30:34.000 So there's uh there are actually a number of organizations.

00:30:36.000 I'll make sure to send them afterwards so we can add them into the sources.

00:30:39.000 Uh, but a number of organizations that are documenting those specific laws and how we can go and challenge them on a First Amendment basis, right?

00:30:45.000 So the the real issue here is you've got companies that are able to do certain types of speech.

00:30:50.000 There are limitations to the First Amendment.

00:30:52.000 But what Newsom has blatantly said in other California legislatures is we don't like how you interpret the First Amendment.

00:31:00.000 We don't actually like the full extent of what the Supreme Court and the founders created around the First Amendment.

00:31:06.000 And this gets into larger issues around the shape and the nature of the country and what are important values.

00:31:12.000 But it it now, based on these laws, they're not even saying, hey, we we just kind of slightly interpret a little differently.

00:31:19.000 Some of these are going almost full second amendment, saying, well, you know, these guys didn't really know what they were talking about with their muskets, and now they're saying, well, these guys didn't really know with their wigs and their free speech.

00:31:30.000 Maybe we need to go ahead and curb that.

00:31:32.000 And that's where funding these First Amendment groups is gonna be really important.

00:31:34.000 Almost every important First Amendment case that ever came out came because of organizations that were willing to fund individuals whose speech was limited and be able to take that all the way up to the Supreme Court and get the right kind of precedent.

00:31:47.000 And as we know Precedent.

00:31:49.000 Precedent.

00:31:49.000 Okay, right.

00:31:51.000 You said as we know.

00:31:52.000 I thought there was more.

00:31:53.000 That's why there was this awkward pause.

00:31:55.000 What did you just do to the show?

00:31:56.000 Next chat.

00:31:56.000 Dead air.

00:31:58.000 All right.

00:31:58.000 Next chat from my chimp.

00:32:00.000 Crowder is demonetized on YouTube, but there are still ads in his videos.

00:32:04.000 Does Google make money off his videos?

00:32:06.000 How is that legal?

00:32:07.000 I don't know.

00:32:07.000 Bill?

00:32:08.000 Yes, terms of service.

00:32:09.000 They can run ads and not pay us.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:12.000 But wait a minute.

00:32:13.000 I thought they didn't run ads because none of the advertisers wanted to be in our content.

00:32:17.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 So it's not that none of the advertisers would be in the content.

00:32:21.000 It's that.

00:32:21.000 How do you defend that?

00:32:22.000 It's so here's the thing.

00:32:24.000 It's not illegal.

00:32:24.000 No, no, no, not the illegal part, but like the wrong part.

00:32:27.000 Like, yeah, no, no, no.

00:32:27.000 We we took you off because advertiser didn't want to.

00:32:29.000 Well that's the same thing.

00:32:30.000 Someone's gotta pay for $47 lattes in San Francisco, okay?

00:32:33.000 I mean you know, oak milk, oat milk is not fucking cheap.

00:32:37.000 Wow.

00:32:37.000 Sorry, I never said it was ill.

00:32:42.000 Whatever.

00:32:42.000 These San Franciscans have to pay for the full milk.

00:32:46.000 Fine, they can pay for it, the jerks.

00:32:47.000 All right, next chat.

00:32:48.000 Can you milk me?

00:32:48.000 Okay.

00:32:52.000 I think I know the answer.

00:32:54.000 That's a good idea.

00:32:56.000 Yeah, Bill, want to chime it?

00:32:59.000 Um, that's not a legal question except uh in our FDA segment.

00:33:04.000 Only you can prevent Gerald Milken.

00:33:07.000 Oh, please.

00:33:09.000 The USTA says that that is illegal.

00:33:12.000 That's funny.

00:33:12.000 All right.

00:33:13.000 All right.

00:33:13.000 Do we have anything for you know like the crew now?

00:33:16.000 Sure.

00:33:16.000 Bill's boring me.

00:33:18.000 Just kidding.

00:33:18.000 He's not boring me.

00:33:19.000 He's not.

00:33:20.000 He's not boring anybody, but I I feel like I have to.

00:33:23.000 I feel small, so I feel like I have to hurt people to feel better.

00:33:25.000 You knew when you said that that you weren't bored.

00:33:27.000 You're the biggest guy in every room.

00:33:29.000 It's a violation.

00:33:30.000 I said I feel small, not that I am small.

00:33:31.000 What's the matter with this guy?

00:33:34.000 All right.

00:33:34.000 Next chat from Mr. Nobody.

00:33:36.000 Question for everyone.

00:33:37.000 There you go.

00:33:38.000 Since Trump took Iran's capability to have a nuke, what do you think he would do if the same people take over a nuclear armed country?

00:33:45.000 I guess that's the same thing.

00:33:46.000 You mean Iraq Britain. 0.80

00:33:48.000 Like if Iran took over a nuclear-armed country?

00:33:50.000 Maybe.

00:33:50.000 Or I think he's referencing Muslims in general.

00:33:53.000 But who knows?

00:33:54.000 Yeah, uh I think it all has to do with the ideology of the regime.

00:33:59.000 Uh I mean that I think that was the the catalyst for this.

00:34:02.000 And there, you know, there were a lot of people in the Iran thing, not to dive too deeply into that again.

00:34:06.000 Uh, that thought that Iran was was not being truthful in their aspirations.

00:34:12.000 And uh they had kind of this apocalyptic ideology at the top that was really one of the main problems.

00:34:17.000 I don't I mean, I think the people of Iran by and large probably didn't want anything to do with this.

00:34:21.000 There's been a lot of movements for freedom in Iran that have been kind of put down, mostly just by this kind of smaller but sizable group of people that are very um I don't know, i kind of extremist in their beliefs and the apocalyptic nature of their beliefs is not that they will be destroyed, so that people are like that's stupid, they'd never launch a nuclear war.

00:34:39.000 Not that they wanted other people to be destroyed, and that there was kind of an apocalyptic climate globally that would usher in the 12th Imam and their preferred caliphate. 0.91

00:34:47.000 So they have more of a they have more of a hive mentality. 0.72

00:34:52.000 You've got to be kidding me.

00:34:56.000 Think about it.

00:34:57.000 Communists kill bosses for Christ.

00:35:00.000 Hey, can I draw attention to CNN real quick?

00:35:02.000 Uh the Governor Stein of North Carolina is talking about whether he's gonna sign uh I can't uh arenas arena's law after the stabbing on the bus.

00:35:12.000 In the meantime, go ahead.

00:35:16.000 Go ahead and place to go when when they're having uh a schizophrenic attack.

00:35:21.000 If they are a risk to themselves, if they're a risk to other people, we need some place for them to go.

00:35:26.000 And one thing you taken to the people do is provide any funding to help us address that issue.

00:35:30.000 Yeah, that that definitely makes sense.

00:35:32.000 In the meantime, you do have this bill on your desk.

00:35:34.000 If you don't sign it uh or veto it, either one, it will just automatically go into law.

00:35:39.000 Are you considering doing that, or will you either sign it or veto it?

00:35:43.000 Will you take your pen out no matter what?

00:35:45.000 I I'm uh as I said, I'm reviewing it really as we speak.

00:35:49.000 It was the last meeting I had before I got on.

00:35:52.000 Okay, listen.

00:35:53.000 I think he doesn't want to go on national television and say he's not gonna sign this.

00:35:56.000 I think you're 100% right.

00:35:57.000 They didn't have any money in there for schizophrenics to be able to come in and self-report. 0.99

00:36:03.000 Well, if you don't get what place for them to go, then uh well uh it doesn't make any sense because it's it it's about cashless bail.

00:36:11.000 Well, it's if they don't have anywhere to go, then they can stay in county jail.

00:36:14.000 Well, I I don't understand.

00:36:17.000 If uh if you had any testicles, um then you would actually go, damn right I'm signing this bill.

00:36:23.000 I'm gonna make sure that we protect the citizens of this state, and we'll get to the other stuff as soon as we can.

00:36:30.000 And you know what my next meeting is?

00:36:32.000 It's to talk about schizophrenics and how we can help them and make sure that they're not a danger to themselves, or more importantly, the public.

00:36:38.000 I don't want them killing themselves, but I certainly would prefer that over them killing people in public.

00:36:43.000 So we'll work on that.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, sounds like it doesn't matter.

00:36:47.000 I could run for office.

00:36:48.000 These guys are total posers.

00:36:50.000 Anyway, I like that, Gerald.

00:36:52.000 I like your shutter island law.

00:36:53.000 That'd be great.

00:36:54.000 It is.

00:36:54.000 Yeah, we'll put them on a island.

00:36:56.000 We just won't do the shock treatment thing because that's cruel, and uh we'll do something.

00:37:00.000 I don't know, maybe it's not.

00:37:01.000 I just thought it was.

00:37:02.000 I just wanted to sound virtuous.

00:37:03.000 Okay, it's effective.

00:37:04.000 Okay.

00:37:05.000 Next chat.

00:37:05.000 All right, next chat from Or did we skip something?

00:37:08.000 What was there a chat that we were on?

00:37:10.000 You were you already kind of answered it.

00:37:11.000 I didn't.

00:37:14.000 Good.

00:37:14.000 I didn't want to leave you actually.

00:37:15.000 Billy, you have anything to say on the uh nuclear Muslims? 1.00

00:37:20.000 Hard no. 1.00

00:37:24.000 Depends on the ideology.

00:37:26.000 That's great.

00:37:26.000 All the wh also I don't care if Israel has the bomb.

00:37:30.000 Come at me, bro.

00:37:32.000 Israel? 0.53

00:37:33.000 They have it.

00:37:34.000 People are mad.

00:37:35.000 I can't believe you let Israel have a bomb.

00:37:37.000 They've just been using it to do whatever they want.

00:37:38.000 I'm like, they haven't done anything with it.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, they've nuked a lot of people already.

00:37:41.000 Can't you tell?

00:37:42.000 Next chat from Depatriate Panda. 0.79

00:37:44.000 Question for the crew.

00:37:45.000 If someone on the right is attacked again and they fight back, do you think legacy media will go off the deep end and call the entire left to arms against us?

00:37:52.000 No, I don't think so.

00:37:54.000 I mean, if they if they're attacked and fight back, are you talking about like a situation where they're out in public or something like that and they're attacked, and then they maybe like some like a mob attacks them, they take out a gun and shoot somebody to defend themselves?

00:38:05.000 Is that maybe maybe like a written house situation or something?

00:38:08.000 Uh well listen, it does it doesn't matter.

00:38:10.000 The written house situation was before really all of that was going like somebody just defending themselves, and they tried to fry a kid who literally was out there to try to help a community and was dealing with some of the worst people.

00:38:21.000 I mean, he shot three times, hit three pedophiles, I think.

00:38:24.000 It's kind of a really interesting record or shot twice.

00:38:26.000 I think it was uh maybe I think maybe it was two pedophiles and one domestic abuser.

00:38:30.000 Uh yeah.

00:38:31.000 I was being somewhat hyperbolic.

00:38:33.000 But um But yeah, definitely not three high lifes.

00:38:37.000 This is this is four today.

00:38:40.000 Uh we need to have we need to have an admonish counter on real screen.

00:38:43.000 We do need an admonishing.

00:38:44.000 Real quick chat from Gerald.

00:38:45.000 So we need an admonish counter.

00:38:46.000 Yeah.

00:38:47.000 Real quick chat from Belmont 03.

00:38:48.000 I would like you to hit the admonish button on Gerald again, please and thank you.

00:38:52.000 Approved illegal.

00:38:54.000 I don't understand like how that's our biggest line item here.

00:38:58.000 Legal and it's it's paying dividends right now.

00:39:01.000 You're adding to it, Gerald.

00:39:03.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 That's an extra.

00:39:05.000 You're a sick group of people that just and I when I say sick group of I mean all of you.

00:39:10.000 All I mean, because apparently this is a universal thing that you like me admonished as even when I'm right, or like I'm not even like I don't understand.

00:39:19.000 It's like it loot it's like a car alarm at this point.

00:39:21.000 I'm like, I'm gonna be admonished for just saying hi.

00:39:25.000 Admonished.

00:39:25.000 Admonish, please.

00:39:26.000 No, I just built it's just a request from legal.

00:39:32.000 This is actually this was a test to see whether they listened to legal fast enough.

00:39:35.000 So it was less about the ammonia.

00:39:37.000 I mean, you deserved it.

00:39:38.000 We need to stop with the friendly fire.

00:39:39.000 Okay.

00:39:39.000 Tim's hands are tied there.

00:39:40.000 He couldn't do anything about that.

00:39:41.000 I expect it from Must Club because they pay the money.

00:39:44.000 What do you want to get suited?

00:39:45.000 And they can get what they want when they pay them with limitations.

00:39:47.000 They get what they pay for, but you look at the Look, I don't know how they do it in Notre Dame, but here we practice the reps in order to be good at game time.

00:39:53.000 So we needed to make sure.

00:39:57.000 Our defense sucks.

00:39:59.000 Gerald's gonna murder somebody.

00:40:03.000 Well, you shouldn't have written firing, you know, firing squad on the front up there on the desk.

00:40:07.000 Yeah.

00:40:08.000 Well, you just bring up every bad thing in life.

00:40:12.000 Next chat.

00:40:13.000 All right.

00:40:13.000 Well, here you go.

00:40:14.000 Here's the softball for you since I know you love talking merch.

00:40:17.000 And my wife's been asking this too.

00:40:18.000 Monster Mangler.

00:40:19.000 Why do I love talk anyway?

00:40:20.000 Go ahead.

00:40:21.000 You do.

00:40:21.000 Would you all consider making your crowder shop shirts available in women's film?

00:40:25.000 No.

00:40:25.000 Okay.

00:40:26.000 There you go.

00:40:26.000 Sorry, woman.

00:40:27.000 Gerald preverses women's shirtless.

00:40:30.000 No, so listen, we uh Thank you for that.

00:40:33.000 Look, I I want shirts like this to be ubiquitous.

00:40:37.000 And again, I said this yesterday about the ice shirts that we had, the DHS.

00:40:41.000 Go to Crowdershop.com and grab one.

00:40:43.000 I I highly, highly recommend you do that.

00:40:46.000 I cannot tell you how many conversations that I have had with people who see Jesus is risen.

00:40:51.000 Uh change my mind shirt and go and just either say something or have a conversation about it, or it it's it's a great conversation starter.

00:40:59.000 So listen, I know that sounds self-serving, and yes, you know, we sell merch and that's fine.

00:41:04.000 But but when it comes to supporting the you know Department of Homeland Security and ICE and the agents, I go buy it from the Hodge twins.

00:41:11.000 Go buy it from Bannon's shop, go buy it from TP USA, Alex Jones, pick your favorite, but just do it.

00:41:18.000 That's the bycot mentality is that we want to support, especially when things like this happen.

00:41:22.000 And they happen far too often, and the media tells you they don't care because they're like, oh, this happened, whatever, they're fine, oh this happened, no big deal moving on.

00:41:29.000 It happens all the time, and these people need to know that we support them in their efforts, and we know that they're not going to be anybody's favorite because of it.

00:41:36.000 Now, they may be ours, but they're not gonna be anybody on the left or anybody out in the media's because they're just gonna try to demonize them.

00:41:42.000 So go support them, buy buy some merch, make sure you wear it, be proud about it.

00:41:46.000 If people ask conversations or ask questions, don't be a jerk.

00:41:49.000 Make the case well.

00:41:50.000 Like, do it in love, but make the case well for our side and represent everybody well, and that's helpful.

00:41:57.000 So that's my thing.

00:41:58.000 On the shirts.

00:41:59.000 Yeah, can I ask about the women's about women's feelings?

00:42:01.000 Yeah, so the the on the women's shirt. 0.98

00:42:03.000 We actually had that conversation and feedback in this industry, because we asked for that.

00:42:08.000 We said, hey, you need some women's uh cuts. 1.00

00:42:10.000 And they're like, actually, we we've tried that before with several very large merch accounts, and they don't sell at all.

00:42:18.000 He said women actually prefer the men's cuts.

00:42:21.000 So that may not be the truth.

00:42:23.000 Let me tell you the truth.

00:42:24.000 They sent a request illegal, and I said, no, we will not authorize women's sewing kits to be sold with the shirts. 0.70

00:42:31.000 Why not?

00:42:33.000 Hard no. 1.00

00:42:35.000 So anyway, it's demand.

00:42:36.000 It really is demand.

00:42:37.000 I don't think there's as much demand for that.

00:42:39.000 They've tried that in the world.

00:42:40.000 The women could buy the sweatshirts. 1.00

00:42:42.000 Yeah.

00:42:42.000 Because women steal guys' sweatshirts all the time.

00:42:44.000 All the time.

00:42:45.000 And they steal our t-shirts as well.

00:42:47.000 Yeah.

00:42:47.000 I understand that the problem with it though.

00:42:49.000 Uh you know, you may want to do that differently, but they they said, listen, we've tried that before.

00:42:53.000 And honestly, it was kind of funny because they had had an internal debate about it just recently when I had this was like two years ago when we talked about it.

00:42:59.000 Um yeah, they were like, nah, they just they just they just don't sell.

00:43:02.000 They just sit around.

00:43:03.000 So anyway.

00:43:04.000 Chad, how about making a mug club apron?

00:43:09.000 Unisex.

00:43:10.000 I mean, they could work.

00:43:13.000 I'd rather be driving a mug club. 0.96

00:43:14.000 I don't know.

00:43:15.000 Like put that on there too.

00:43:16.000 On the apron.

00:43:17.000 No.

00:43:17.000 Oh.

00:43:18.000 We just got different ideas.

00:43:19.000 Anyway, next chat.

00:43:21.000 What about uh squirrel?

00:43:22.000 How about mug how about mug club?

00:43:24.000 How about mug club uh uh maternity shirts that say, can you milk me?

00:43:30.000 And it's just my face.

00:43:32.000 Why not a why not a mug club sewing machine, right? 0.99

00:43:35.000 You just like make it any fit you want, right?

00:43:37.000 There you go.

00:43:38.000 I mean, we could do all kinds of stuff.

00:43:39.000 I think the world is really our oyster, but I hate oysters.

00:43:41.000 So chat.

00:43:44.000 All right.

00:43:47.000 Next chat from Nicole.

00:43:49.000 Wait a minute.

00:43:50.000 If Hillary thinks we used to be on the right track, does that mean she wants to make America great again? 0.99

00:43:54.000 No, she's saying that we used to be on the right track when we precisely got on the wrong track when the country went from not really having a race problem to having a race problem because a black guy was supposed to be a healing kind of thing as president, and it turns out all he did was stoke racism.

00:44:09.000 Weird how that works.

00:44:10.000 I think things were much better in the 90s with races. 0.98

00:44:13.000 Fantastic time to be alive, and then they screwed it up.

00:44:16.000 I what she just fails to comprehend is that the white guys seem to do a pretty good job of building civilization.

00:44:21.000 See, all of Europe and us.

00:44:24.000 Well, like except for Germany for like a period of time.

00:44:27.000 But just any everybody has their moments.

00:44:29.000 Okay.

00:44:30.000 Germany started.

00:44:31.000 We shouldn't have never let we should have never let them become a unified country because it's been like 40 years they started frickin' wars.

00:44:38.000 A white guy invented the Pontiac Aztec.

00:44:40.000 So I think you need to dial down this.

00:44:43.000 What?

00:44:43.000 You nursing the Pontiac Aztec.

00:44:45.000 I have.

00:44:45.000 I don't want to think about it though.

00:44:47.000 Yeah, yeah, that was a white guy.

00:44:48.000 We're not perfect, Bill.

00:44:50.000 Next chat.

00:44:50.000 Okay.

00:44:52.000 Next chat from Bill and I used to do on the show all the time.

00:44:55.000 We just give each other crap.

00:44:57.000 That was third chair.

00:44:59.000 Next chair.

00:45:00.000 And we loved it.

00:45:01.000 Son of a admonish noodles for failing to bring up the chat.

00:45:06.000 Goldie Rigtail.

00:45:07.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:45:09.000 Excellent anti-communism laws would solve our current problems with leftist terror attacks.

00:45:14.000 Uh Bill, what do you think?

00:45:16.000 What is an anti-communist law?

00:45:18.000 I don't know.

00:45:18.000 What what's the antifactor?

00:45:22.000 Well, that's maybe that's one of them.

00:45:23.000 It's not a law.

00:45:24.000 I mean, that's just a thing.

00:45:25.000 Just do the thing.

00:45:26.000 Enforce the law.

00:45:27.000 Enforce the thing.

00:45:27.000 I what I would say is this reminds me very much of is it that we need more laws or that we need a government and agencies and the people in those agencies to enforce the law?

00:45:37.000 So so many times, like in the gun debate, people would go, well, how is it that we have, you know, we have all these rules and they're not enough?

00:45:42.000 And it's like, well, we're not actually funding the rules that we have in place right now.

00:45:47.000 So if we had more folks who are actually investigating Antifa, taking it seriously, is it that we don't have the resources or the laws to prosecute Antifa?

00:45:56.000 No.

00:45:56.000 It's that we're not focused on it, that we have agents or factions within these agencies or specific, you know, municipalities or law enforcement organizations who are not allowed to go after Antifa.

00:46:08.000 So let's make the directive clear.

00:46:10.000 Let's put the resources into it, and then we can decide do we need more laws?

00:46:14.000 But I am 100% confident that the thousands and thousands and thousands of laws we have are more than enough.

00:46:22.000 What we need to do is enforce them.

00:46:24.000 I think that's fair.

00:46:24.000 Good good point.

00:46:25.000 All right.

00:46:26.000 Uh two more chats and then we're done for today.

00:46:28.000 And I want to run that uh epic teaser again before we leave.

00:46:32.000 Yeah.

00:46:32.000 Okay.

00:46:33.000 All right.

00:46:34.000 Uh second to last chat from 69.

00:46:36.000 Since the government has lied to us so much over the years, conspiracies run rampant after every event.

00:46:42.000 How does anyone decipher the truth these days?

00:46:44.000 Hashtag Gerald might not be gay.

00:46:45.000 Hey, there we go.

00:46:47.000 You're 100% correct.

00:46:48.000 I am not gay.

00:46:49.000 That's a conspiracy that is my That's actually that's actually an appropriate admonishment because you said you're 100% correct.

00:46:57.000 And what they said was he might not be gay.

00:47:00.000 They didn't say that you are not gay. 0.96

00:47:01.000 They said you might not be gay. 0.99

00:47:03.000 Okay, that's fair.

00:47:04.000 I did clarify though that I am not gay.

00:47:06.000 See my three children.

00:47:08.000 Anyway, um I I think has a kid.

00:47:11.000 I get it.

00:47:14.000 And you know what?

00:47:16.000 You can milk him.

00:47:17.000 Oh we all saw it.

00:47:21.000 Not a fan of chest feeding.

00:47:23.000 Um, uh I'm not a boob guy.

00:47:28.000 It's true.

00:47:28.000 I uh I uh I I think uh with the conspiracy like I understand that we've been lied to a lot, and you know, Megan uh Kelly got this question at an event recently within the last couple of days.

00:47:39.000 I just saw a clip of it before the show.

00:47:41.000 Who can we trust?

00:47:42.000 Well, there's there are a lot of people out there that want and desire your trust.

00:47:46.000 Um obviously the the people watching Candace Owens, she's depending on your trust and your suspension of reality for at least a portion of what she says. 0.97

00:47:55.000 Um I I think track record is what you really have to go after.

00:47:59.000 I don't I don't trust anybody in the mainstream media.

00:48:01.000 Not a single person, not a single main show host.

00:48:05.000 Let me put it that way.

00:48:06.000 There may be individuals that end up doing guest spots and stuff that I have some trust.

00:48:09.000 Like Scott Jennings, I I I typically trust where he's coming from on most subjects.

00:48:14.000 And even people I disagree with, I might trust that they're at least honestly seeking the truth from their worldview.

00:48:20.000 That's a different thing than just completely lying.

00:48:22.000 But you have to look, and I'm sorry, like I'm not tooting our own horn, but nobody does what we do.

00:48:27.000 Nobody does what we do.

00:48:29.000 Nobody puts their sources out like we do.

00:48:33.000 Nobody says, here's what we believe, and here's why we believe it, like we do.

00:48:37.000 We don't just show you text messages where we're the only person on them as receipts.

00:48:41.000 We actually show you the articles, the studies, the sites, the data, the calculations, all that stuff.

00:48:47.000 We show you the stuff.

00:48:48.000 Like that's what you should demand from everybody.

00:48:51.000 And that includes people that are friendlies on this side.

00:48:54.000 Yeah, we should make the only one doing stuff.

00:48:56.000 No, we should not.

00:48:57.000 A comedy show that really is because Steven couldn't find a late-night show that he really thought resonated with his generation or really can carried on the legacy of some of the earlier greater late-night shows.

00:49:07.000 That show should not be the one that's outsourcing CNN and Fox and MSNBC and ABC station everywhere else.

00:49:13.000 And and put in your favorite creators here.

00:49:15.000 Nobody else does that.

00:49:17.000 So then maybe some people are trying, they put up overlays and things like that, but they I want you to go do the research because you're the one that's going to be hit with a ton of false information.

00:49:24.000 I need you trained on how to spot it, how to do the research, to figure it out, and also where to come to get A first step.

00:49:31.000 I think we are a great place historically for that.

00:49:34.000 We have a viewpoint, but we give you the sources.

00:49:37.000 That's what we should be demanding.

00:49:38.000 All right, final chat.

00:49:39.000 Final chat from Twist Truss 42.

00:49:43.000 Sixth time asking.

00:49:45.000 Who's counting?

00:49:45.000 How do Christians reconcile defending ourselves against knowing we will suffer for our faith?

00:49:49.000 What?

00:49:50.000 What is the line between violence and persecution?

00:49:56.000 A's the question that Christians can't use self-defense, even though we know we're supposed to suffer for the faith. 0.98

00:50:01.000 Did Jesus tell us to turn the other cheek?

00:50:06.000 Yes, but do you know what the meaning of that is?

00:50:08.000 Yeah.

00:50:08.000 That's well, but that's I mean the reference to it that there is a deeper analysis around when you do it when you don't.

00:50:14.000 Yeah.

00:50:14.000 Right, et cetera.

00:50:15.000 But I think that is the question that is getting towards is when are you preemptive?

00:50:20.000 When are you going to take action?

00:50:22.000 When are you going to be in self-defense?

00:50:24.000 And how do you reconcile that around the over the maybe first message, the inch deep message of turn the other cheek.

00:50:31.000 I don't think Jesus was saying go out and just be slaughtered by these people uh that that hate you.

00:50:37.000 Just go out and be slaughtered.

00:50:38.000 If you're dying for the faith and there's, you know, you're being a martyr and you're going out and speaking the word and telling you to stop speaking the word and you don't, and you're breaking their laws, that's a different thing than somebody just attacking you on the street because you're a Christian and you not defending yourself.

00:50:51.000 I I think Christians sometimes get this Mamby Pambi view of Jesus where he was this, you know, peace, love, you know, let everybody live happily ever after kind of guy.

00:51:00.000 No, no, no.

00:51:00.000 He did not come to unite.

00:51:02.000 He came to divide.

00:51:03.000 That's his words, not mine.

00:51:06.000 Okay.

00:51:06.000 If you have a problem with that, you need to take it up with scripture, not me.

00:51:09.000 And that means God.

00:51:10.000 Listen, he is trying to unite people in him.

00:51:15.000 But that is the key fact here that a lot of people miss.

00:51:17.000 It's not unity for the sake of unity, it's unity in Christ so that we can become more like Christ, and so that we are separating ourselves.

00:51:26.000 Here's the dividing against evil.

00:51:29.000 That's a thing.

00:51:30.000 Now you need to be careful what you call evil.

00:51:32.000 When you call someone evil for some behaviors maybe that you don't like or positions that you disagree with, you have to be careful that you're actually seeing evil and not just disagreement.

00:51:42.000 And when you defend yourself, that doesn't mean going out and proactively being violent against people, but it does mean that if violence does come to your door, that you do have a right, a God given right that we have recognized in this country to defend yourself and your family and your property.

00:52:00.000 You have a right.

00:52:01.000 Now, how far you take that defense may be informed by your faith.

00:52:04.000 There may be certain lines you aren't willing to cross.

00:52:07.000 I don't really have a whole lot of those lines that I'm not willing to cross if somebody tries to take my family out.

00:52:12.000 I will defend them as harshly as I possibly can on the people that are trying to hurt my family.

00:52:19.000 I understand that.

00:52:20.000 But if you have any question on if Jesus thought that self-defense was necessary, I believe it was right before the garden around the Garden of Gethsemane time.

00:52:30.000 Jesus said, Do you have any swords?

00:52:33.000 If you don't have a sword, go sell your tunic and buy one.

00:52:37.000 And they said, Lord, we have two.

00:52:39.000 He said, okay, that'll be enough.

00:52:40.000 Why do you think he said that?

00:52:42.000 If you didn't believe in defending yourself, what do you need swords for?

00:52:46.000 This is also the same Jesus that made a a whip and ran people out of the marketplace, the temple court, selling doves and everything, turning over money changers tables, completely uprooting their way of life and making money with a whip, knowing that we're temple guards.

00:53:02.000 Do you think that Jesus really is saying, hey, just take every sling and arrow that comes at you and don't defend your family?

00:53:09.000 No.

00:53:09.000 Scripture's very clear.

00:53:10.000 You have a right to self-defense.

00:53:12.000 You're fine.

00:53:14.000 But it's also very clear that we need to love people and view them as Christ does.

00:53:18.000 He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.

00:53:20.000 He wants all people to come to repentance and to be joined in unity with him.

00:53:24.000 But when they make a decision that that is not what they're going to do, we got to be careful and understand, okay, you've made that decision.

00:53:31.000 I'm not going to condemn you, but listen, you come a knocking, I'm defending my family.

00:53:35.000 Part of defending our ideas is being able to speak on college campuses.

00:53:41.000 I told you at the top of the show.

00:53:43.000 This is something that we will never give up.

00:53:45.000 This is ground that we will never cede.

00:53:47.000 This is what the left wants.

00:53:50.000 They did the exact opposite of what they should have done.

00:53:53.000 They should have engaged in conversation.

00:53:55.000 They should have sat down and tried to win on the battlefield of ideas.

00:53:58.000 Instead, they tried to kill the ideas.

00:54:00.000 Well, guess what?

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