Louder with Crowder - This NYT Article Glazing a Deported Jamaican Kidnapping Drug Dealer is Absolutely Bonkers

00:00:00.000 Mr. Blair was handed a yellow jumpsuit at the Orange County Jail.

00:00:03.000 It's his first time behind bars since leaving prison.

00:00:10.000 You know, people mess up.

00:00:12.000 People get things wrong all the time.

00:00:14.000 Yours truly included, and certainly, Gerald.

00:00:17.000 And...

00:00:17.000 The media messes up.

00:00:21.000 Okay.

00:00:21.000 Sometimes it's just you make a mistake.

00:00:23.000 Sometimes there's new information.

00:00:24.000 Sometimes the information...

00:00:25.000 It changes, and you have to adapt.

00:00:28.000 Sometimes...

00:00:29.000 It's not only malicious, but it's so tone-deaf that you're basically putting your ear to the ground to hear the piano even though you're riddled with syphilis. 0.54

00:00:39.000 It's time for media malpractice.

00:00:47.000 you

00:00:49.000 And we have a couple to get to.

00:00:51.000 All references, we make them publicly available.

00:00:53.000 I highly recommend you go and read this.

00:00:56.000 There might be a paywall if you don't have a membership.

00:00:58.000 We have to pay for all these memberships, and I feel guilty to New York Times and Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, Forbes, blah, blah, blah.

00:01:04.000 But it does this for us.

00:01:06.000 Yeah.

00:01:07.000 We didn't know what to pull.

00:01:08.000 This is all one article.

00:01:10.000 It's the whole thing.

00:01:11.000 At the New York Times.

00:01:12.000 This is a book, dude.

00:01:13.000 There's chapters.

00:01:14.000 There's literally chapters.

00:01:15.000 And here's the thing.

00:01:17.000 Is it funny?

00:01:18.000 Sure.

00:01:19.000 But it also shows you, when people talk about the country club sort of Democrats, and the parties have changed a little bit now, what they're talking about is this.

00:01:26.000 The person writing this does not care about you.

00:01:29.000 The person writing this doesn't believe that anyone, including serial criminals, who have no business being here, should be deported.

00:01:35.000 So if you just sort of follow that down the end of its logical trail, it's, oh, okay, you need to pay for these people, as we have seen in New York City.

00:01:46.000 As we've seen with hotels, as we've seen with SNAP benefits, EBT cards, right?

00:01:51.000 If they don't believe that this guy should be deported, and this is an entire write-up.

00:01:55.000 Think about this.

00:01:56.000 Abrego.

00:01:57.000 Abrego Garcia, did I have that right?

00:01:59.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:02:00.000 That's the example they found.

00:02:02.000 He's a guy who clearly was an MS-13 gang member.

00:02:05.000 I'm sorry, Maryland man.

00:02:05.000 Maryland man.

00:02:06.000 Make sure you get it correct.

00:02:08.000 Doesn't this tell you something?

00:02:09.000 If they're really, really looking to do a profile on the poor, innocent, hard-working, Law-abiding migrant who accidentally gets deported and instead you end up with MS-13 gang member and this.

00:02:24.000 So, the headline is 21 years later, deported back to a home he barely knew.

00:02:33.000 All right.

00:02:34.000 Can we talk about this being the island of Jamaica, too, just a little bit?

00:02:37.000 Yes.

00:02:38.000 I know there's some slummy parts of it, a lot of the island, but it's Jamaica! 1.00

00:02:42.000 Also a home that still exists that he has a place to live.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, he does.

00:02:46.000 With relatives that he definitely knows and sent things back to.

00:02:50.000 Yes.

00:02:51.000 What?

00:02:52.000 You barely knew.

00:02:53.000 You knew the address. 1.00

00:02:54.000 You were sending shit back for years. 0.99

00:02:58.000 You sent back an autographed best of Bob Marley, which, by the way, there's only, like, one song. 0.99

00:03:02.000 Can we stop?

00:03:02.000 Come on.

00:03:03.000 With the stupid tattoos. 1.00

00:03:07.000 One song! 1.00

00:03:09.000 You described this during run through, like, this is the exact kind of person who would want to be.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, that's what I was saying.

00:03:15.000 It was, like, four years ago.

00:03:16.000 Or, no, not even four.

00:03:17.000 One year ago, we're in the campaign.

00:03:20.000 Both sides come together and go, who's the people that need to be deported?

00:03:23.000 Okay, not the average person.

00:03:25.000 All right, not the dreamers.

00:03:26.000 Not the anchor babies.

00:03:28.000 No, no, no.

00:03:28.000 It's the guy who's guilty of kidnapping?

00:03:31.000 Yeah, probably that guy.

00:03:33.000 They make the case for why he should be deported while lamenting.

00:03:39.000 Dealing a weapons possession.

00:03:41.000 Like, this article might as well be called fodder for those advocating deportation.

00:03:51.000 Validation for Trump's policy.

00:03:54.000 It's guilty of kidnapping somebody.

00:03:56.000 It should be called kidnapped person gets kidnapped.

00:04:01.000 Kidnapper goes home.

00:04:04.000 I'm baffled.

00:04:06.000 I can't even speak today.

00:04:08.000 Under Trump administration, message is clear.

00:04:11.000 Kidnappers not welcome. 0.98

00:04:14.000 What a douche.

00:04:17.000 And they'll still try and make it a race thing. 0.99

00:04:19.000 If you're like, I don't want kidnappers because he's black? 0.98

00:04:22.000 No, because he napped kids! 0.99

00:04:26.000 It's the napping that I have a problem with.

00:04:30.000 So let me read you some of this.

00:04:33.000 Nascimento Blair returned home.

00:04:36.000 In shackles.

00:04:37.000 Good.

00:04:38.000 Shackles or zip ties?

00:04:40.000 Scrooge, is it Marley?

00:04:42.000 Yeah.

00:04:44.000 Over the next three nights, you'll be deported.

00:04:49.000 You'll be visited by three Rastafarians when the bell tolls 11.30 a.m. if they sleep in. 0.99

00:04:57.000 He landed in Jamaica in February.

00:05:04.000 21 years after he abandoned the island, seated next to dozens of his countrymen who were also handcuffed.

00:05:12.000 They don't specify, were they also kidnappers?

00:05:18.000 Yeah, like being handcuffed is the worst thing.

00:05:21.000 This is not an op-ed on them, so obviously they have done worse.

00:05:25.000 They have.

00:05:26.000 Still dazed, he looked out of place.

00:05:28.000 He had on the same winter clothes.

00:05:30.000 A peacoat.

00:05:31.000 A turtleneck.

00:05:32.000 Gray suit.

00:05:34.000 And Chelsea boots, how I often picture my Jamaicans.

00:05:37.000 Ah, he had style.

00:05:38.000 Why did we deport him?

00:05:39.000 He had been wearing when U.S. immigration authorities had abruptly detained him on a frigid morning in New York City weeks earlier.

00:05:47.000 It was frigid, Stephen.

00:05:48.000 Feel bad for him.

00:05:49.000 I should feel... 0.99

00:05:50.000 He had icicles on his testicles. 0.99

00:05:52.000 I should feel bad for him! 0.99

00:05:54.000 Did he say he was there for 21 years?

00:05:57.000 Yeah.

00:05:57.000 He was in the U.S. for 21 years.

00:05:58.000 Yes.

00:05:58.000 Oh, he was in the U.S. for a total of 21. Okay.

00:06:00.000 Yes.

00:06:01.000 Okay.

00:06:01.000 And he's 44?

00:06:02.000 Yeah.

00:06:02.000 I'm just doing some math here because it's not like this guy was five when he left.

00:06:06.000 No, he spent the majority of his life in the home he barely knew.

00:06:09.000 So here's the thing.

00:06:10.000 They're setting this all up, right?

00:06:11.000 I'm not going to...

00:06:11.000 Maybe I should just read all of it.

00:06:12.000 You guys let me know if you want me to read all of it.

00:06:14.000 But I'll go to the second page here where I just want you...

00:06:18.000 Just please have your short...

00:06:19.000 Drink your coffee if you need to.

00:06:21.000 Have your short-term memory working so you can remember the first two phrases.

00:06:26.000 Once I speak, immediately the very next phrase in the article.

00:06:30.000 Okay?

00:06:30.000 I don't know how important.

00:06:32.000 All right.

00:06:33.000 They don't look at you like a Jamaican, Mr. Blair said. 0.96

00:06:37.000 They look at you like a criminal. 0.94

00:06:40.000 That's sad.

00:06:41.000 Next phrase.

00:06:43.000 Mr. Blair did not give them details about his past.

00:06:46.000 An odyssey that began with a side hustle dealing marijuana in the New York suburbs with a 24-year-old Jamaican transplant, which led to a kidnapping conviction he disputed and a 15-year prison sentence he fulfilled. 0.65

00:06:58.000 You know who he disputed it with?

00:07:01.000 The guy who got kidnapped!

00:07:06.000 They look at you like a criminal.

00:07:09.000 Are you one?

00:07:14.000 They don't say wrongfully.

00:07:17.000 No.

00:07:17.000 They say he disputed.

00:07:18.000 Every criminal does.

00:07:20.000 What are you talking about?

00:07:21.000 They're like, hey, hey, we think you kidnapped this person.

00:07:24.000 No.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, well, we have proof.

00:07:28.000 Oh, 15 years.

00:07:30.000 No, I was just holding him, man.

00:07:32.000 By the way, do the math.

00:07:33.000 He's a kidnapper.

00:07:36.000 Of course they look at you as a criminal. 0.99

00:07:37.000 You're like, amongst the worst.

00:07:40.000 Yeah, everybody in prison is innocent.

00:07:42.000 Yes, that's true.

00:07:43.000 I also saw Shawshank.

00:07:45.000 Got it.

00:07:46.000 By the way, do the math.

00:07:47.000 It was one of the first things he did here.

00:07:49.000 Yes.

00:07:49.000 It was kidnap.

00:07:50.000 It was like first thing.

00:07:51.000 Oh, America.

00:07:52.000 The land of kidnapping opportunity.

00:07:56.000 Since when can you not do that here?

00:07:59.000 That's crazy, man.

00:08:00.000 There's free people to kidnap here.

00:08:06.000 There's three people that are involved in this case.

00:08:09.000 I know.

00:08:10.000 And by the way, just again, you think, look at all of this.

00:08:13.000 This is all making the case that the man who came here immediately kidnapped, did 15 years hard time, should not be deported.

00:08:21.000 That's from the New York Times.

00:08:22.000 Okay.

00:08:23.000 To Jamaica.

00:08:24.000 It was his criminal past that had gotten him deported from the United States. 1.00

00:08:28.000 You fucking think? 0.99

00:08:32.000 Wait, did he write this article? 1.00

00:08:34.000 Is anything else relevant?

00:08:36.000 It's like, well, yeah, look, we all agreed we're going to start deporting the violent criminals, you know, certainly pedophiles, kidnappers.

00:08:47.000 Okay, hold on.

00:08:48.000 Where he had been rebuilding his life and seeking redemption, largely with more kidnappings.

00:08:52.000 He had earned two college degrees, started a trucking business, mentored people, released from prison, cared for fiancé with breast cancer, taking classes at Columbia University.

00:08:59.000 All right.

00:08:59.000 None of it.

00:09:00.000 They brought up his fiancé's breast cancer because, again, heartstrings.

00:09:03.000 I'm going to point it out.

00:09:04.000 Every time they try to tug your heartstrings, I'll point it out.

00:09:06.000 On paper, Mr. Blair fit the profile of the people Mr. Trump says he wants to deport.

00:09:12.000 Yes.

00:09:12.000 Those with criminal backgrounds.

00:09:14.000 They write it.

00:09:14.000 I'm not saying it.

00:09:15.000 Yes.

00:09:19.000 Correct!

00:09:20.000 We all agree!

00:09:21.000 Yeah, on the same page.

00:09:22.000 Oh, good.

00:09:23.000 So this is a good thing.

00:09:25.000 This whole thing, might as well read the defense, is like, to be fair, he didn't kidnap anyone during the 15 years he was in prison.

00:09:34.000 I don't think you get credit for that.

00:09:36.000 I don't think that's how it works.

00:09:37.000 Oh, my God.

00:09:38.000 Okay, all right.

00:09:41.000 Here you go.

00:09:42.000 But to Mr. Blair and his supporters...

00:09:45.000 His life story was one of rehabilitation nuanced and filled with qualities that they believe Mr. Trump's deportation machine disregards as it flies out immigrants en masse.

00:09:56.000 Yes.

00:09:56.000 Well, I don't think it's disregarding his story so much as acknowledging it.

00:10:03.000 Like, hey, we have to look for who we should deport.

00:10:05.000 Somebody who has no business being here, you did 15 years for kidnapping?

00:10:08.000 Yeah, you're gone.

00:10:09.000 No, but he made papier-mâchées in prison.

00:10:11.000 Yes, exactly.

00:10:13.000 I told other people not to do it.

00:10:14.000 He had a pen pal.

00:10:17.000 His removal from the United States and dizzying journey back to the Caribbean raises a fundamental question Americans are grappling with as they consider the president's immigration crackdown.

00:10:26.000 Who deserves to stay?

00:10:28.000 Okay, I can't answer that entirely, but I can say not kidnappers.

00:10:34.000 Pretty easy.

00:10:36.000 Without exception, in fact.

00:10:38.000 Pretty much.

00:10:39.000 Alleged kidnappers?

00:10:40.000 You may be convicted.

00:10:42.000 I would even say, like, natural-born kidnappers, you'd have a case to deport them.

00:10:48.000 Somewhere.

00:10:50.000 But it was good for five years before the kidnapping.

00:10:53.000 Yeah.

00:10:54.000 Mr. Blair was home, except Jamaica did not feel like home.

00:10:59.000 Not enough people to kidnap there, are there?

00:11:02.000 They know you as the kidnapper and run away.

00:11:04.000 Here's the next chapter.

00:11:05.000 A cryptic call from Ice.

00:11:08.000 What?

00:11:11.000 In this chapter, they lay out how he was deceived by Ice when they called him and said, hey, please come here.

00:11:22.000 I got tricked.

00:11:23.000 I got tricked.

00:11:25.000 They called me and they asked me to go to Ice.

00:11:28.000 And I did!

00:11:29.000 And they did what ICE do!

00:11:31.000 I thought I could kidnap!

00:11:33.000 I don't think it's all that cryptic.

00:11:35.000 Like, the call from Ice should be like, hey, yeah, Mr. Blair, we're gonna be deporting you on account of all that kidnapping.

00:11:40.000 Wanna come down and see us?

00:11:42.000 Yes, you tricked me. 1.00

00:11:43.000 Hey, so on account of, okay, so he's a kidnapper and he's also an idiot? 1.00

00:11:46.000 Yeah, we'd really have to get rid of this guy. 1.00

00:11:47.000 He's also here illegally.

00:11:48.000 We're forgetting that.

00:11:49.000 Like, all this is enough to be like, oh yeah, he was never allowed to be here.

00:11:53.000 Yeah, you shouldn't be here if you're here illegally. 1.00

00:11:56.000 And you're like, a parking violation.

00:11:58.000 That's enough for me.

00:11:59.000 Yes.

00:11:59.000 All right.

00:12:00.000 A judge ordered cryptic call from ICE.

00:12:03.000 Okay, next chapter.

00:12:04.000 A judge ordered Mr. Blair to be deported after he was convicted of kidnapping in 2006.

00:12:10.000 Accused of abducting an acquaintance who had stolen weed from his apartment.

00:12:22.000 I get it, Stephen.

00:12:23.000 You can't tell the cops, hey.

00:12:25.000 I also feel like if they wanted to paint him in a more positive light, like, the New York Times could have, they could have chosen a litany of different phrases, but instead it's like, abducting an acquaintance.

00:12:38.000 Who had stolen weed.

00:12:42.000 Abducting an acquaintance who allegedly had violated his, you know, business.

00:12:46.000 Personal property inventory.

00:12:48.000 Yeah, he stole his reefer.

00:12:50.000 So he kidnapped him.

00:12:52.000 Another pull on the heartstrings.

00:12:53.000 They couldn't technically say friend.

00:12:55.000 Right.

00:12:55.000 They have to say acquaintance because the guy lived in the same building.

00:12:58.000 Yeah.

00:12:58.000 And he smelled the weed.

00:13:00.000 And he's like, I know where the weed is.

00:13:03.000 They saw each other from time to time outside.

00:13:06.000 They knew each other.

00:13:07.000 The deportation order loomed over Mr. Blair as he rebuilt his life after prison.

00:13:13.000 Mr. Blair, who lived in Yonkers, New York, and worked in Harlem, had to check in at the ICE office in downtown Manhattan seven times over five years.

00:13:22.000 The audacity.

00:13:25.000 That's more than probation.

00:13:27.000 Or less.

00:13:28.000 Sorry, that's less than probation.

00:13:29.000 Doesn't that mean that six times under Biden, they looked at him and went...

00:13:33.000 Yeah, you're fine.

00:13:34.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:13:36.000 By the way, if he's in Yonkers, or if he's going from Harlem, it's about a 25-minute train ride.

00:13:42.000 Yeah, how awful.

00:13:45.000 Approximately once a year, you've got to take a 20-something minute train ride.

00:13:50.000 Oppressive.

00:13:51.000 The fact is, what can we expect immigrants here? 1.00

00:13:55.000 Let's just assume this guy was legal.

00:13:57.000 What can we expect immigrants to contribute? 1.00

00:14:00.000 At a certain point.

00:14:01.000 Like, you know, we're not even at the point of talking about taxes, assimilating into your community, giving back.

00:14:05.000 Like, take a 20-minute train ride every year.

00:14:09.000 In two years, you might have to do it twice.

00:14:13.000 Can we ask that?

00:14:15.000 With an appointment that you can plan around?

00:14:17.000 I mean, that's less than a dentist.

00:14:18.000 I mean, it really is.

00:14:20.000 Opportunities for kidnapping along the way.

00:14:22.000 Who knows?

00:14:24.000 Okay, hold on a second.

00:14:24.000 Let me see.

00:14:25.000 It just gets...

00:14:29.000 Mr. Blair regularly ship barrels filled with cooking supplies, textiles, and other goods from his home in Yonkers, New York, to his family in Jamaica.

00:14:34.000 Now, back in his homeland, he's benefiting from the contents.

00:14:40.000 How much do you want to bet that they weren't just cooking supplies in those barrels that he was shipping back?

00:14:46.000 This is a guy who was kidnapping.

00:14:48.000 This is a guy who was selling so much weed that a friend in his apartment building knew how much weed was being sold, and he did 15 years for kidnapping, said Snitch.

00:15:00.000 And I don't know about you, but even when I ship Christmas gifts to families, they're often not barrels.

00:15:07.000 They tell you how much weed was in his apartment?

00:15:10.000 Very much later in the article so that you give up before then.

00:15:15.000 How much?

00:15:15.000 Do you know?

00:15:16.000 It's at least three pounds.

00:15:17.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:15:19.000 It's either he had three pounds or three pounds was stolen out of the stash.

00:15:23.000 Yeah, well that's why you gotta do some kidnapping. 0.98

00:15:26.000 Weed is a very light drug.

00:15:28.000 Three pounds is a lot.

00:15:31.000 Three pounds is a lot.

00:15:33.000 Mr. Blair, who goes by Blair.

00:15:36.000 Dressed up, as he typically did, and headed to the ICE office.

00:15:41.000 Unlike many immigrants who wade through the country's convoluted immigration system without legal or financial support, he was not alone.

00:15:47.000 Well, that's nice.

00:15:48.000 He dressed up, Stephen.

00:15:49.000 Yeah.

00:15:50.000 He's a good man.

00:15:51.000 Yeah, he brought some of his kidnapping victims along.

00:15:52.000 He put on his Chelsea boots.

00:15:53.000 Nearly 50 friends, supporters, and New Yorkers, an unlikely contingent of community organizers, college professors, and faith leaders, showed up outside in solidarity, bearing posters.

00:16:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:16:06.000 An unlikely contingent of community organizers, college professors, and faith leaders?

00:16:11.000 You mean all the usual suspects?

00:16:14.000 You mean no friends, people who do this for a living?

00:16:18.000 That's like if I was getting deported and the crew from Panda Express showed up.

00:16:26.000 What will we do with all the Beijing beef?

00:16:29.000 I hope the poster said, Bye!

00:16:33.000 It says, They had banded together to try to stop his deportation through a flurry of last-minute letters to ICE, casting him in a sympathetic light, a rehabilitated man who had repaid his debt to society.

00:16:45.000 So I guess ICE didn't take it, but then you wrote a puff piece on it, New York Times.

00:16:51.000 You know what?

00:16:51.000 I'll say this.

00:16:52.000 I think people can be rehabilitated.

00:16:54.000 Sure.

00:16:54.000 I think the guy made a mistake, and I have no doubt that he's probably a good dude overall, but...

00:17:00.000 You kidnapped somebody.

00:17:01.000 You can't be here.

00:17:02.000 You were never allowed to be here.

00:17:03.000 You kidnapped somebody.

00:17:04.000 Guns in your...

00:17:05.000 He should have never done 15 years in prison.

00:17:08.000 He should have been, oh wait, you kidnapped somebody.

00:17:10.000 Oh, okay, we're sending you back to Jamaica. 1.00

00:17:12.000 Well, because we're not going to pay to house a kidnapper who shouldn't be here.

00:17:15.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:15.000 It's like, feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme, do the crime, do the time.

00:17:18.000 That's right.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:20.000 I think they would understand that better than this New York Times piece.

00:17:23.000 Do you think this guy is any good at bobsledding?

00:17:25.000 I don't.

00:17:26.000 I don't think it really caught on.

00:17:27.000 No.

00:17:28.000 Well, it doesn't matter now.

00:17:29.000 He's got a criminal record.

00:17:29.000 They won't let that be on the picks.

00:17:31.000 You don't think anyone was inspired by that very long movie in which they lost?

00:17:35.000 Well, they picked it up and carried it.

00:17:36.000 Hey, it's really cool, dude.

00:17:38.000 I like that movie.

00:17:39.000 Don't you do this to me!

00:17:41.000 They've been training the whole time and they immediately crash their bobsled so they have to carry it.

00:17:46.000 That's true.

00:17:47.000 That lucky egg wasn't very lucky.

00:17:48.000 No, it was not.

00:17:51.000 Mr. Blair entered the ICE office on February 3rd with his lawyer, Bernard Harcourt, a Columbia law professor.

00:17:57.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:58.000 Of course.

00:17:59.000 He took some classes at Columbia.

00:18:00.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 So, maybe that was a friend.

00:18:02.000 Alright, hold on a second.

00:18:03.000 Okay.

00:18:04.000 From New York to Louisiana.

00:18:06.000 This is another chapter, by the way.

00:18:08.000 How many chapters are there?

00:18:10.000 There are so many chapters.

00:18:11.000 Like, this whole thing could just be, hey, our immigration system is broken.

00:18:14.000 People are coming here and immediately committing crimes, ending up in prison, and then back on the streets.

00:18:19.000 That's what they should write.

00:18:21.000 But instead, since they have to wade through the bullcrap and, like you said, tug on your heartstrings, it's just a bunch of irrelevant information.

00:18:29.000 The guy came here illegally and he immediately committed a serious crime that violates an American's fundamental human rights.

00:18:36.000 Gone!

00:18:37.000 Yeah, they're pulling at the heartstrings.

00:18:38.000 They go, the way they tricked Mr. Blair into coming to get arrested.

00:18:41.000 If they tricked him, why did he get dressed up and bring 50 protesters?

00:18:45.000 Very much not tricked.

00:18:46.000 On a cryptic call.

00:18:47.000 And also, you said the next chapter is called From New York to Louisiana.

00:18:50.000 This is our subject's Huck Finn story.

00:18:53.000 Yes, it is.

00:18:54.000 It's fantastic.

00:18:55.000 Can we get in touch with this author so that Stephen can do an interview with him?

00:18:59.000 I would love to.

00:19:00.000 Josh, do you want to take something?

00:19:01.000 Do you want to read something?

00:19:02.000 Yeah, sure.

00:19:02.000 This is fun.

00:19:03.000 It was close to midnight, oh no, when Mr. Blair was transferred to a jail a short drive north in Orange County, New York, where ICE holds many people rounded up in New York.

00:19:11.000 ICE officers paraded Mr. Blair and other detainees before loading them into vans, posing for photos with immigrants like trophies, Blair said.

00:19:18.000 Like its roots.

00:19:20.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 Come on, man!

00:19:22.000 Come on, everyone get a good look at my illegal immigrant.

00:19:27.000 He says, one of the officers says, this is the new administration.

00:19:32.000 You weren't a priority then, you are a priority now.

00:19:35.000 Got no problem with that.

00:19:36.000 You feel special, that's good.

00:19:37.000 It's weird that the cops are just kind of like jabbing him, but you know, whatever.

00:19:41.000 I don't think that ever happened.

00:19:42.000 They're upset, they weren't allowed to do their job before, they're now allowed to do it.

00:19:44.000 Then they go on to say, Mr. Blair's handed a yellow jumpsuit.

00:19:47.000 That's a, oh no, he had Chelsea boots, now he's got a jumpsuit.

00:19:50.000 No, no, look at this.

00:19:51.000 Hold on.

00:19:52.000 I want to highlight this.

00:19:53.000 Mr. Blair was handed a yellow jumpsuit at the Orange County Jail.

00:19:56.000 That's his first time behind bars since leaving Reality

00:20:13.000 I feel like they wrote this entire article for someone else, couldn't find them, and just said, we can just, like, add one, you know, one phrase, and it'll fix it.

00:20:23.000 Like, this was his first time behind bars.

00:20:25.000 Just add, since he'd last been to prison.

00:20:29.000 Right after that, it says the staff were respectful, and he was allowed visitors.

00:20:33.000 That's nice.

00:20:34.000 He was there for 17 days, and then on February 21st, his birthday!

00:20:39.000 Oh, no!

00:20:44.000 Like they did it maliciously.

00:20:46.000 Like they waited to transfer all these prisoners until his birthday.

00:20:50.000 Some warden is like, ah!

00:20:54.000 Don't you go away!

00:20:58.000 That's Italian fry here at somebody's birthday.

00:21:01.000 Never gonna guess what present we got you.

00:21:04.000 We got you a nice surprise.

00:21:05.000 No soap.

00:21:07.000 Shave 'em dry.

00:21:09.000 Make a wish, boy.

00:21:11.000 Do it!

00:21:15.000 Jeez.

00:21:15.000 I just want to go home.

00:21:17.000 We can arrange that.

00:21:20.000 Yeah, we will.

00:21:20.000 Send you.

00:21:21.000 So on his birthday, he was transferred with little explanation to a jail in Nassau County.

00:21:25.000 The next day, he was waking up at about 3 a.m.

00:21:27.000 Another heartstrings like, oh, you can't wake up at 3 a.m.

00:21:29.000 They got to be somewhere.

00:21:30.000 So he was taken to Newark Liberty International Airport there, and he had the detainees were put on a plane.

00:21:34.000 And there's a charter company, yada, yada.

00:21:36.000 The detainees wore arm and leg restraints that left Mr. Blair's wrists.

00:21:42.000 Swollen.

00:21:43.000 As cuffs do.

00:21:44.000 Oh my.

00:21:45.000 So this is fun to me.

00:21:47.000 What's the alternative?

00:21:48.000 No restraints?

00:21:49.000 Yeah.

00:21:50.000 No restraints when you're taking them to a public airport?

00:21:53.000 I trust ya.

00:21:54.000 So let me make sure this is really clear.

00:21:57.000 They transferred him with no extra.

00:21:58.000 You would like them to explain to him, do it at a reasonable hour so he can get a full night's rest, and then have him in a public airport with no restraints so he can easily run away.

00:22:07.000 They sound like it's such a victim story to get up at 3am to go to the airport Have you never gone to an airport?

00:22:13.000 I know.

00:22:14.000 Everyone gets up at 3 a.m. to go to the airport, unless you're a moneybags that can fly out at 1 p.m.

00:22:19.000 Anyway, the plane departed about 8.30, stopping in Boston, Buffalo, and Pennsylvania to pick up others in custody, mostly men, Mr. Blair recalled.

00:22:27.000 Ugh, sausage fest! 0.98

00:22:32.000 I was hoping there'd be some easy bitches for kidnapping! 1.00

00:22:38.000 Then they go, 12 hours later, they land in Louisiana. 0.99

00:22:41.000 Hold on a second, hold on a second.

00:22:42.000 Is the implication here that they're, like, pissed off that this illegal alien didn't fly direct?

00:22:46.000 I guess he had.

00:22:48.000 And then he had a layover!

00:22:50.000 Oh, you had to fly like most of us?

00:22:52.000 Yeah.

00:22:53.000 Oh, shoot.

00:22:56.000 Then it goes on to say when they got there, people were being replanted.

00:23:01.000 When 50 people leave in the morning by 10.30 a.m., the doors open and 60 more people walk in, Mr. Blair recalled, and still mostly men.

00:23:08.000 I didn't say that.

00:23:10.000 Okay, here's the next chapter.

00:23:13.000 A conviction haunts on arrival.

00:23:19.000 You mean you're haunted by your...

00:23:21.000 Past of kidnapping?

00:23:26.000 Again with Marley here. 0.58

00:23:29.000 Caribbean nations have been bracing for an influx of flights packed with repatriated citizens as well as people looking to self-deport to avoid the shame associated with deportation.

00:23:42.000 So all of this and how terrible it is, they're also saying that a lot of people are voluntarily deported.

00:23:46.000 Which he could have done if he had a problem with those seven visits during five years.

00:23:51.000 At any point.

00:23:52.000 Alright, I wanted to highlight this.

00:23:54.000 It says, Jamaicans deported to the island, many of whom have criminal backgrounds.

00:24:00.000 How much do you want to bet?

00:24:02.000 Most of whom.

00:24:03.000 Close to all of whom have long had to grapple.

00:24:08.000 With social stigma that stems from a widely held perception that deportees are unemployable, dangerous, and destined to fuel crime.

00:24:18.000 Yeah, yeah, I would imagine that if someone is arriving in Jamaica, and whatever their equivalent to immigration or customs are like, reason for him getting to Jamaica, and the guy's like, oh, he's a criminal who kidnapped people. 0.71

00:24:32.000 They're like, oh, so there's a good chance he'll kidnap over here.

00:24:36.000 Yes.

00:24:37.000 Great.

00:24:38.000 It's not the deportation.

00:24:39.000 It's the criminal record that you have that makes them think that.

00:24:43.000 I also, by the way, they said, like, it's a home that he barely knew.

00:24:46.000 Oh, 20-something years.

00:24:47.000 But then it just says, growing up, Mr. Blair attended an all-boys high school in Jamaica.

00:24:52.000 Ugh, sausage fest.

00:24:52.000 And chased dreams of playing soccer in England.

00:24:56.000 Yet in 2005, less than two years after moving to the United States on a work visa to join his father, the state with the largest Jamaican pocket, he wound up sitting in a Westchester jail.

00:25:06.000 Well, he did because he committed crimes.

00:25:09.000 Yes.

00:25:10.000 That's not our fault.

00:25:12.000 That's not society's issue.

00:25:13.000 That's his.

00:25:14.000 I love how they say sitting in a Westchester jail, then the very next paragraph, before landing in jail.

00:25:19.000 You don't land in jail.

00:25:20.000 This isn't Monopoly.

00:25:23.000 He didn't roll a six and then lose $100. 0.99

00:25:27.000 I thought I kidnap a bitch and pass go! 1.00

00:25:30.000 Maybe if I roll, they'll let me out, man. 1.00

00:25:32.000 Oh, I shouldn't have bought that hotel at Kidnapping Gardens.

00:25:36.000 LAUGHTER

00:25:41.000 All right, here's another one of his interviews.

00:25:43.000 I got caught up selling weed and fell in love with the money.

00:25:47.000 Yes, I get it.

00:25:48.000 I strayed from Miss Sarka dreams.

00:25:56.000 Yeah.

00:25:56.000 At the age of his early 20s, at the age of 23 or 24, he's like, maybe I'm not going to make it, man.

00:26:05.000 Maybe when they're recruiting all the 16-year-olds, they're not going to be looking for a 23-year-old who better want to sell her. 0.99

00:26:11.000 I don't think I can play in FIFA, but I can kidnap one who can.

00:26:17.000 Those dreams...

00:26:18.000 Oh, no, sorry, this is the New York Times person, not him again.

00:26:20.000 Those dreams were resoundingly shattered on October 11, 2005, when an 18-year-old who lived in Mr. Blair's building broke into his apartment and stole half a pound of marijuana and money.

00:26:28.000 Mr. Blair did not report the break-in to the police, fearful of getting busted for possessing marijuana.

00:26:35.000 Yes.

00:26:36.000 Pounds.

00:26:36.000 Instead, he took matters into his own hands.

00:26:39.000 I think the left hated vigilante justice.

00:26:42.000 of the problem here.

00:26:44.000 The police arrested him and two other men the following day.

00:26:47.000 After they were accused of kidnapping the teenager, holding him at another

00:26:51.000 What?

00:26:57.000 Mr. Blair was accused!

00:26:59.000 Of pistol-whipping the 18-year-old and driving him to the apartment where prosecutors say he was tied up.

00:27:06.000 The police freed the...

00:27:07.000 So here's the thing.

00:27:08.000 Here's an...

00:27:09.000 All of this...

00:27:10.000 Here's the funny one.

00:27:12.000 Like, they want to give...

00:27:13.000 You know, this guy did 15 years.

00:27:15.000 Okay.

00:27:15.000 Just to be clear.

00:27:16.000 And I'm going to get to the part where you obviously...

00:27:19.000 Like, nothing is 100%.

00:27:21.000 It's just 100% that this happened because you'll understand.

00:27:23.000 Again, with the very, very next phrase.

00:27:24.000 But think about this.

00:27:25.000 It wasn't just kidnapping.

00:27:26.000 He took matters into his own hands.

00:27:29.000 And so he got a group of other grown men to kidnap a teenager, tie him up, pistol whip him, and hold him ransom, demanding money from the kid's father.

00:27:41.000 But at least they didn't call the cops on him.

00:27:42.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:27:45.000 Then it says, the police freed the teenager that night after raiding the apartment where they found two handguns and two pounds of marijuana.

00:27:55.000 Meaning...

00:27:55.000 The police found him tied up with guns.

00:28:02.000 So in other words, their couple deniability is they show up, they find a teenager who's been kidnapped by a group of Jamaican men, likely bruises all over his face, tied to a chair, but the New York Times wants you to believe his defense was he had the gun, went like, oh,

00:28:18.000 it's on the floor!

00:28:22.000 Sounds like he got swatted.

00:28:24.000 Poor guy.

00:28:26.000 Dude, that's a gang crime.

00:28:27.000 Yes.

00:28:28.000 This is like, they make movies about this.

00:28:30.000 This is the whole plot of Rush Hour.

00:28:32.000 One and two.

00:28:37.000 Look, we all make mistakes. 0.99

00:28:39.000 Who among us hasn't recruited two other Jamaican bodyguards and kidnapped a teenager while destroying their father's life, holding him for ransom, pistol-whipping him in the cock? 1.00

00:28:47.000 I think it's also the plot of Bad Boys 2. I could go on. 0.98

00:28:50.000 There's so many fucking movies, dude. 0.99

00:28:52.000 Who is not in my house? 1.00

00:28:54.000 Before you...

00:28:55.000 Before you read this about the account of what happened, it says, prosecutors and Mr. Blair differ on what happened next.

00:29:04.000 By prosecutors, they mean the guy who was kidnapped, pissed or whipped, and tied up.

00:29:11.000 And his family.

00:29:12.000 Here's the other thing, too.

00:29:14.000 Do you have any other evidence that he did?

00:29:16.000 I know this doesn't always mean, but again, the cops found the teenager tied up in the apartment.

00:29:20.000 That's how they found him, because they raided the house.

00:29:24.000 And then the two other suspects involved in the kidnapping pled guilty.

00:29:35.000 Meanwhile, the guy whose apartment it was in said, "No! 0.98

00:29:39.000 I didn't do it!

00:29:41.000 I didn't know!"

00:29:42.000 Back to the background point.

00:29:44.000 The New York Times doesn't care about you.

00:29:46.000 They know that this is a guy who was here, who had no business being here, who was involved in a gang crime, kidnapping a teenager, tying him up, pistol whipping him, and God knows what he put his father through.

00:29:57.000 And the cops found the kid.

00:29:58.000 And then the other two people involved with the crime admitted it.

00:30:01.000 Like, yeah, we did it.

00:30:04.000 If we can't deport this person, who can we deport?

00:30:07.000 Honestly.

00:30:08.000 They're sure to mention, though, that the other suspects pleaded guilty in exchange for reduced sentences.

00:30:13.000 Right.

00:30:13.000 So why didn't he?

00:30:13.000 They made sure to do that.

00:30:15.000 Yeah.

00:30:15.000 Because he's innocent.

00:30:17.000 Well, here's the good...

00:30:17.000 No, hey, look, maybe there's a twist.

00:30:20.000 Okay.

00:30:20.000 Oh, you know what?

00:30:21.000 You're right.

00:30:21.000 It's a long article.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:30:23.000 Otherwise, they wouldn't write this giant pile of shit, right? 1.00

00:30:27.000 Spoiler, I read it. 1.00

00:30:29.000 Mr. Blair pleaded not guilty.

00:30:33.000 Yeah.

00:30:34.000 I'm the odd one out.

00:30:36.000 He pled not guilty and went to trial in 2006 and faced seven felony counts, including kidnapping and weapons charges.

00:30:46.000 Mr. Blair admitted that he demanded money from the teenager, but maintains that he never held him against his will, never hit him with a gun, and never tied him up.

00:30:55.000 Yeah, just like that pedophile in Russia, he tied himself up.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:59.000 So you never held him against his will.

00:31:02.000 The only way he was extracted was when the SWAT team came.

00:31:07.000 He could have left at any time!

00:31:09.000 And the guns were out from what I've read too.

00:31:11.000 The guns were there and out.

00:31:12.000 They're always out!

00:31:13.000 Two handguns.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, two handguns.

00:31:16.000 And the other two guys said, yeah, we did it.

00:31:18.000 But they lied.

00:31:19.000 No, no, the kid was there voluntarily for three days and two nights.

00:31:24.000 With no food or...

00:31:25.000 And it was a misunderstanding when I called the father and said, you're going to give $5,000 or you'll never see your son again.

00:31:30.000 It's a joke in Jamaica! 1.00

00:31:33.000 It's Jamaican.

00:31:34.000 You don't have that joke here.

00:31:35.000 It's like the calling saying, do you have Prince Albert in a can?

00:31:38.000 But instead, I'm kidnapping your son.

00:31:40.000 Hey, how many ounces in a pound?

00:31:42.000 I'm not, I don't know the...

00:31:43.000 16. 16 ounces in a pound?

00:31:46.000 Is that right?

00:31:46.000 What's 16 times 200?

00:31:47.000 I don't think it adds up to 5,000.

00:31:49.000 Well, it's at least two and a half pounds because the guy, the other guy, took a half pound.

00:31:53.000 They said it was two and a half.

00:31:55.000 What he stole was a half pound.

00:31:56.000 I'm trying to think what he was, what the ransom money was.

00:31:59.000 What was he looking to see?

00:31:59.000 Was he seeking the amount, the value?

00:32:01.000 That's a good point.

00:32:02.000 Because that's, I mean, I get, like, yeah, you stole this much money.

00:32:05.000 He stole half a pound is what he said.

00:32:07.000 Half a pound?

00:32:07.000 Yeah, so eight ounces.

00:32:08.000 Eight ounces.

00:32:09.000 What, $1,600?

00:32:11.000 Wow, how do you know that?

00:32:13.000 Thank you.

00:32:13.000 Yeah, so if it's $200 an ounce, I mean, granted, this is in 2005, it's different.

00:32:17.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 But if you go, which is, it's not, that's not cheap, $200 an ounce. 1.00

00:32:22.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:32:23.000 It's what we call a finder's fee! 1.00

00:32:27.000 Aggravation charges.

00:32:28.000 But then he does the victim thing, right?

00:32:29.000 Okay.

00:32:29.000 So, the other guys plead guilty.

00:32:30.000 The cops had to raid the house.

00:32:32.000 They find two guns.

00:32:32.000 They find the kid tied up.

00:32:34.000 They find injuries.

00:32:35.000 All right.

00:32:36.000 During the two-week trial, Mr. Blair testified that police officers beat him while he was chained to a desk and coerced testimony that was used at the trial.

00:32:47.000 Is there any proof of that?

00:32:49.000 Hold on.

00:32:50.000 At this point, in other words, it's clearly you've got nothing.

00:32:53.000 We don't need testimony.

00:32:54.000 We also don't need two weeks to figure this out.

00:32:57.000 It's like when you pull a guy over for going 15 on the freeway and his eyes are red.

00:33:02.000 You might not smell marijuana, but you say I smell marijuana in the car.

00:33:06.000 It's like the lawyer going like, yeah, and then also say that they roughed you up.

00:33:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:10.000 Say they want you.

00:33:13.000 Here's the thing.

00:33:13.000 They said...

00:33:14.000 They coerced testimony.

00:33:15.000 Can we find this testimony, guys?

00:33:17.000 In other words, that means...

00:33:20.000 Now, unless he's saying they coerced the testimony of the other guys who pled guilty, where he was trying to...

00:33:25.000 By beating him?

00:33:25.000 Yeah, but he was saying they beat him, which means he basically admitted to something and tried to undo it.

00:33:31.000 So he sat down with his pro bono Columbia lawyer, and he said, okay, so tell me, is there anything I should know?

00:33:40.000 Like, well, I admitted to it.

00:33:42.000 What?

00:33:43.000 I admitted it!

00:33:44.000 But you didn't do it.

00:33:46.000 I did!

00:33:47.000 No, you just say they beat you.

00:33:48.000 I don't understand.

00:33:50.000 What were you saying?

00:33:52.000 They said it's not publicly available.

00:33:54.000 Oh, okay.

00:33:55.000 I wonder why the New York Times asked this one.

00:33:57.000 You know, here's the thing is, that could be possible.

00:34:01.000 It could be like an episode of some kind of, I don't know, 2005 crime show.

00:34:07.000 But after all the other things, you're like, I don't...

00:34:11.000 I don't think so.

00:34:12.000 Yeah.

00:34:13.000 No, I don't believe so either.

00:34:14.000 After all the other things, it's like, yeah, I doubt it.

00:34:16.000 It's a pretty clear-cut case.

00:34:17.000 I don't think they need a confession out of you.

00:34:19.000 They found a kid tied up in your apartment with weed.

00:34:23.000 And guns.

00:34:24.000 And guns.

00:34:24.000 And two other guys who were like, we did it!

00:34:26.000 From the kid's father.

00:34:27.000 It's like...

00:34:29.000 I don't think that's evidence they need.

00:34:32.000 The whole case took two weeks.

00:34:36.000 It was just everyone.

00:34:38.000 Guilty.

00:34:40.000 There actually was.

00:34:41.000 There was some heavy deliberation.

00:34:45.000 Really?

00:34:46.000 Yes.

00:34:46.000 Okay.

00:34:47.000 All right.

00:34:47.000 There was.

00:34:49.000 Is there something I'm missing?

00:34:50.000 No, it's a few days.

00:34:51.000 It's somewhere in here.

00:34:52.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:34:53.000 All right, I'll find it.

00:34:53.000 Okay.

00:34:53.000 I'm looking through the pages.

00:34:54.000 I see LGBTQ community.

00:34:56.000 I don't know what that heart string is being pulled.

00:34:57.000 Is he gay?

00:34:58.000 No, I don't.

00:34:59.000 Maybe.

00:35:00.000 I don't know.

00:35:00.000 Here's something else that I find funny.

00:35:01.000 Upon returning to Jamaica, Mr. Blair focused on his immediate needs, buying clothes, getting his belongings shipped, finding out how to obtain an ID.

00:35:08.000 It's like, oh, so they make you do that in Jamaica?

00:35:11.000 And they don't just give you free clothes and figure that out?

00:35:14.000 Like, here in the United States, they expect you to make your own way and have ID?

00:35:17.000 Here's where it says, the jury struggled to render a verdict, and a mistrial seemed possible.

00:35:22.000 Oh, okay, so the New York Times, right, so there was a mistrial.

00:35:24.000 But a judge instructed the jurors to continue deliberating after they said they were deadlocked, according to the court documents, which are not public.

00:35:30.000 After five days of deliberations, the jury found Mr. Blair guilty of kidnapping in the first degree, but not the other charges.

00:35:37.000 The weapons charges of the...

00:35:38.000 Guns that were clearly found.

00:35:39.000 They were there when I got there!

00:35:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:42.000 They probably were sentenced to the other guys.

00:35:43.000 Okay, now we have another chapter.

00:35:45.000 I'm sorry, guys, we could just...

00:35:46.000 I hope...

00:35:47.000 This one's for us.

00:35:50.000 A metamorphosis in prison.

00:35:53.000 Okay, all right.

00:35:54.000 Metamorphosis in prison.

00:35:56.000 So...

00:35:58.000 It's a fun prison that he went to.

00:35:59.000 It sounds like a Disney movie.

00:36:01.000 So it wants you to believe, like, you guys may not remember this, too.

00:36:04.000 They did this whole thing with Tukey Williams.

00:36:05.000 And I think people can be rehabilitated.

00:36:07.000 But there was a huge civil rights protest.

00:36:09.000 Tukey Williams, how could they put him?

00:36:10.000 How could they put him to death?

00:36:12.000 Well, Tukey Williams, I believe, was involved with the murder, the Crips, the killing of four different people on three separate occasions, if I'm not mistaken.

00:36:23.000 And then when he was in prison, they said, oh, he wrote children's books, sure.

00:36:25.000 But he never gave up the information that would have led to the arrest of those people who likely were out there, they were still members of the Crips, killing people.

00:36:33.000 So it's like, yeah, okay, we get that you want to check your little bingo card saying, look, I'm rehabilitated, but where you can actually make a difference, there are still those gang members, the gang that you helped found out there on the street, right?

00:36:45.000 They're hurting people, they're killing people.

00:36:47.000 Tukey Williams never helped with that.

00:36:48.000 But he wrote a pop-up book.

00:36:51.000 There you go.

00:36:52.000 That's not enough.

00:36:53.000 Was the pop a gunshot?

00:36:56.000 Yeah, I'm kidding.

00:36:58.000 Now remember that because this man, Mr. Blair, he began writing poetry that he published online and in a newsletter that he circulated inside the prison.

00:37:08.000 Huh?

00:37:09.000 And he got married in 2012 to a Jamaican woman.

00:37:12.000 What?

00:37:12.000 Who visited him while he was in prison.

00:37:14.000 Afforded conjugal visits.

00:37:16.000 What?

00:37:16.000 They had a son in 2014, but later divorced.

00:37:21.000 Who could have seen that one coming?

00:37:23.000 You think he divorced her because he didn't realize that marrying an also Jamaican doesn't give him the right to stay?

00:37:28.000 Right.

00:37:29.000 I can't believe people in prison would not use protection.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:33.000 I can't believe they gave him a conjugal visit. 0.90

00:37:35.000 I can't.

00:37:36.000 I mean...

00:37:36.000 Why?

00:37:37.000 Guy's got a bone.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, but this is prison.

00:37:40.000 That's part of it, I think.

00:37:41.000 I don't know.

00:37:41.000 I think that's a normal thing, right?

00:37:43.000 It almost seems like if you look at this, he met her while he was in prison and she was banging him while he was in prison.

00:37:50.000 And then he immediately left her that he almost didn't actually care about her and was just banging her.

00:37:55.000 Surely it goes into how he's a great father here.

00:37:58.000 So, yes, yes, exactly.

00:38:00.000 Surely. Surely it must.

00:38:01.000 Surely that's not the last mention of his fatherhood.

00:38:03.000 It must be.

00:38:03.000 Yeah, it must go into what a present father he is.

00:38:05.000 OK, here's a.

00:38:06.000 But on the day of his release, ICE informed the prison that it would not detain Mr. Blair.

00:38:12.000 He said.

00:38:13.000 What? Still, when his aunt picked him up outside the prison, Mr. Blair sprinted to the car and reclined the passenger seat so he was hidden from view in case.

00:38:23.000 I hope ice was waiting down the street to make you think you got away.

00:38:27.000 And it doesn't mention...

00:38:28.000 It mentions earlier, but it mentions not...

00:38:30.000 It makes sure not to mention here, cleverly, that the year was 2020.

00:38:35.000 Oh.

00:38:37.000 2020.

00:38:37.000 So relatively recent.

00:38:39.000 So it's almost like...

00:38:39.000 No, the timing of it is...

00:38:41.000 Yeah.

00:38:42.000 It's great.

00:38:43.000 Yeah.

00:38:43.000 Trump's out, Biden's in.

00:38:45.000 Well, Trump was in in 2020.

00:38:47.000 2020, yeah, but everyone kind of...

00:38:49.000 No, but this also means that the majority of his time in the United States was spent in prison.

00:38:53.000 Yes.

00:38:54.000 Pretty much all of it.

00:38:55.000 Yeah, within the first year.

00:38:57.000 He spent six years out of prison, 15 in.

00:39:00.000 I went to Queens and then Rikers.

00:39:05.000 He also visited Buffalo, Pennsylvania.

00:39:08.000 He got a few prisons under his belt, you know?

00:39:12.000 Okay.

00:39:13.000 All right.

00:39:13.000 Executive Platinum.

00:39:14.000 So here we go.

00:39:15.000 You talk about his fiancée.

00:39:16.000 Oh, sorry, but his fiancée is separate from the woman he was banging in prison who he met while he was in prison.

00:39:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:21.000 Oh, different lady. 0.99

00:39:22.000 He lived with his fiancée who was also Jamaican and had been caring for her after she was diagnosed with breast cancer.

00:39:26.000 Okay.

00:39:26.000 So hopefully he stays with...

00:39:28.000 That is sad.

00:39:29.000 Yeah.

00:39:30.000 It is.

00:39:30.000 Five years had gone by since prison.

00:39:32.000 He had recently purchased an 18-foot box truck.

00:39:36.000 Intending to one day have a trucking fleet.

00:39:39.000 So I was told that he started a trucking company.

00:39:41.000 It sounds like he has dreams of starting a trucking company.

00:39:45.000 You could have a trucking company with one truck.

00:39:47.000 He gave it up for kidnapping.

00:39:49.000 And he was thinking of buying a house next year.

00:39:54.000 That's also everybody.

00:39:57.000 Always.

00:39:59.000 I own a house.

00:40:00.000 I'm also thinking of buying one next year.

00:40:02.000 I constantly think of buying houses.

00:40:04.000 Just like, ah, it'd be cool if I could just buy all the houses.

00:40:08.000 But I just...

00:40:08.000 Okay, BlackRock, do it.

00:40:11.000 And then I'm like, ah, I only need the one.

00:40:14.000 You can buy more if you want.

00:40:15.000 Yeah, I just think about it.

00:40:17.000 Every vacation, I think about buying a house here.

00:40:19.000 I'm like, ah, this is really nice.

00:40:21.000 I should buy a house here.

00:40:22.000 And then instead, I buy an 18-foot box truck.

00:40:26.000 You know, yesterday...

00:40:27.000 Think about starting a trucking fleet.

00:40:29.000 Yesterday, I was thinking about buying an island.

00:40:31.000 Yeah, yeah, me too.

00:40:32.000 Then I realized...

00:40:33.000 I don't have money.

00:40:34.000 No.

00:40:35.000 How many trucks do you need for a fleet?

00:40:37.000 I would imagine more than one.

00:40:38.000 More than one, you think?

00:40:41.000 I think it's the definition.

00:40:43.000 But there's no singular...

00:40:44.000 No!

00:40:45.000 I have a dream of being the first single truck fleet!

00:40:49.000 I have the QT fleet gas cart, though! 0.96

00:40:55.000 Like, this is such bullcrap! 0.94

00:40:57.000 Can we go back? 0.97

00:40:58.000 When they start the article, what was it?

00:41:00.000 What was the article where it started where it said he was...

00:41:03.000 Hold on a second.

00:41:03.000 Let me find...

00:41:04.000 You said a chapter.

00:41:05.000 Which chapter was it?

00:41:05.000 Well, because early on...

00:41:06.000 Hold on.

00:41:07.000 I think I might have...

00:41:07.000 We're going through this.

00:41:09.000 One second.

00:41:10.000 We'll do it live with our friends.

00:41:12.000 Okay.

00:41:12.000 Hold on.

00:41:13.000 Is Chad loving us or hating it, by the way?

00:41:16.000 They're loving it.

00:41:16.000 Okay.

00:41:17.000 Because I'm like...

00:41:19.000 Is it just us or... 0.95

00:41:20.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99

00:41:22.000 Yeah. 0.91

00:41:22.000 There was a whole thing where it talked about earlier. 0.91

00:41:26.000 It talked about him starting a trucking fleet.

00:41:29.000 That's what I mean.

00:41:30.000 Five years had gone by since prison.

00:41:33.000 In the beginning.

00:41:33.000 It was trying to make him out to be this entrepreneur.

00:41:36.000 He's done this.

00:41:37.000 He started a trucking company.

00:41:38.000 He's done all these things.

00:41:41.000 Hold on a second.

00:41:41.000 Yeah, hustling, dealing.

00:41:43.000 Jamaican side dealing.

00:41:44.000 Hold on a second.

00:41:45.000 You guys keep reading it all.

00:41:47.000 Keep reading it all fine.

00:41:47.000 Because early on, we just read it, right?

00:41:49.000 Where they were like, oh yeah, he did.

00:41:51.000 He had a trucking fleet.

00:41:52.000 And now they're like, he bought a truck and thought about an apartment twice.

00:41:58.000 You go, Josh.

00:41:58.000 It's probably the top where it says he was handcuffed.

00:42:02.000 There's something earlier where it says, where one of these ladies that was protesting says, I feel like if Mr. Trump met Mr. Blair, he would think that he is what makes America great.

00:42:12.000 We've got it.

00:42:13.000 Call President Trump.

00:42:14.000 That's what she said.

00:42:17.000 It was his criminal past that had gotten him deported from the United States, where he had been rebuilding his life and seeing redemption.

00:42:21.000 He had earned two college degrees, started a trucking business.

00:42:29.000 So thinking about starting a business is starting a business.

00:42:32.000 Well, he earned two college degrees.

00:42:34.000 That's pretty cool.

00:42:34.000 I wonder how he paid for it.

00:42:35.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, and how does he still have the free cash for thinking about buying a house?

00:42:40.000 How did he pay for two college degrees?

00:42:42.000 Us.

00:42:44.000 Sold a lot of weed.

00:42:45.000 No offense, but I...

00:42:47.000 Actually, offense.

00:42:48.000 I don't know how he came up with the money.

00:42:50.000 Was it the marijuana money from before?

00:42:52.000 Look, don't blame me that you can't afford two college degrees.

00:42:55.000 Pull yourself up by your kidnapping bootstraps.

00:42:58.000 Good point.

00:43:00.000 Just kidnap a few more people, get a few more ransoms.

00:43:03.000 How many ransoms did it take?

00:43:05.000 It was DeVry, I think.

00:43:07.000 It's like free education for prisoners?

00:43:09.000 Is that a thing?

00:43:10.000 I don't know.

00:43:10.000 Like how military people get it?

00:43:13.000 Okay.

00:43:13.000 Alright.

00:43:14.000 Hold on a second.

00:43:14.000 They eat the same food.

00:43:15.000 I'm so tired.

00:43:16.000 That juxtaposition is rough, Josh.

00:43:18.000 Okay.

00:43:19.000 I know.

00:43:20.000 That's why I said it.

00:43:21.000 Guys, there's still so many more chapters.

00:43:24.000 Are you serious?

00:43:25.000 You still have the tabs.

00:43:26.000 Oh my gosh.

00:43:28.000 It's 2025.

00:43:28.000 I usually don't have to have tabs on a New York Times article when I print it.

00:43:32.000 Are we at rebuilding yet?

00:43:33.000 Yes.

00:43:34.000 Rebuilding.

00:43:35.000 Again.

00:43:36.000 In Jamaica.

00:43:37.000 Now remember, all cultures are equal.

00:43:39.000 Or you could say building.

00:43:40.000 Yeah.

00:43:41.000 There is no re.

00:43:42.000 The comforts Mr. Blair took for granted in the United States vanished in Jamaica. 0.98

00:43:47.000 Like a free education?

00:43:48.000 Free food?

00:43:51.000 Oh my god.

00:43:52.000 Camaraderie of other cellmates?

00:43:55.000 I don't understand.

00:43:57.000 Just a few days after arriving, Mr. Blair was showering and flushing with buckets of water as the family dealt.

00:44:02.000 With a water outage, a frequent occurrence.

00:44:05.000 Hey, can you guys bring up, and I like him, but Conan O 'Brien, remember when Donald Trump said that Haiti was a shithole, or he said like these shithole countries?

00:44:12.000 And then Conan O 'Brien took a picture of him in the water and was like, Haiti has always been beautiful.

00:44:16.000 It was a whole campaign.

00:44:17.000 It's always been beautiful.

00:44:19.000 Because Haiti is even worse than Jamaica, but as far as poverty, Jamaica's really bad. 0.76

00:44:24.000 So keep in mind, this is the same left that tells you these countries are beautiful.

00:44:26.000 You have no right to say that they are inferior.

00:44:29.000 Who would ever use the term shithole?

00:44:31.000 I don't know.

00:44:32.000 You're talking about how...

00:44:33.000 There's the photo.

00:44:34.000 Yeah.

00:44:34.000 He's going, Haiti was always beautiful.

00:44:36.000 Now, just pan that camera two degrees.

00:44:39.000 He had to go half a mile off the coast.

00:44:41.000 And you'll see Papa Doc standing over there.

00:44:44.000 There's someone waiting on the shore with a two-by-four and a nail in it. 0.97

00:44:47.000 Yeah, the black people are a hundred yards away behind him. 0.97

00:44:50.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.92

00:44:52.000 We've got about one minute until we're going to be raiding to Tim Poole, so don't forget.

00:44:57.000 Mr. Blair was home.

00:44:58.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:44:59.000 He was home?

00:45:00.000 He was home?

00:45:00.000 I thought it wasn't home!

00:45:01.000 It doesn't feel like home!

00:45:02.000 But without a job.

00:45:04.000 Maybe he can start a trucking company down there.

00:45:07.000 I heard trucks are cheap, so you don't have to go very far.

00:45:13.000 And living in a house that needed repairs.

00:45:17.000 He went from thinking about buying one to being in one that needed repairs.

00:45:21.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:45:21.000 It seems like he got to be in a house for free.

00:45:24.000 This sounds like a better deal. 0.62

00:45:25.000 He's with family, which it kind of seems tone deaf to me that they're talking about how shitty of a life this guy is having now.

00:45:34.000 Living in the same conditions his family he abandoned have been living in the last 21 years.

00:45:40.000 He's reunited.

00:45:41.000 He says, This is my freaking reality after I worked so hard.

00:45:46.000 What am I going to do?

00:45:47.000 Well, why don't you just keep working hard?

00:45:49.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:45:49.000 You could still work hard in Jamaica.

00:45:51.000 Yeah, work hard in Jamaica.

00:45:52.000 Hey, by the way, if you were thinking of buying a house, I would imagine you have some cash.

00:45:55.000 Imagine you have some disposable income.

00:45:56.000 You'd probably have another stash of three pounds of weed.

00:45:58.000 I mean, you're a two-time collegiate graduate.

00:46:01.000 I don't think there's any weed in Jamaica.

00:46:03.000 No, you can't find.

00:46:05.000 No, you can't sell it there.

00:46:07.000 Everybody has it.

00:46:08.000 There's one.

00:46:09.000 I don't need to buy your weed, man.

00:46:10.000 I got my own plant.

00:46:11.000 It's a saturated market.

00:46:13.000 Oh, you're going to sell me one or two, man. 0.99

00:46:16.000 There's one dumb Jamaican there who's like, does anyone know what I can do? 1.00

00:46:19.000 Help me! 1.00

00:46:22.000 I have glaucoma! 0.99

00:46:24.000 Alright, this next one needs to be read in a f***ing voice. 0.98

00:46:28.000 That's not what I said. 0.88

00:46:31.000 For a muscular man who speaks with great self-confidence about his soccer skills, his intellect, his business acumen, his life transformation, that means he's talking about himself.

00:46:44.000 Yes.

00:46:45.000 Like, I'm the best soccer player ever! 0.95

00:46:48.000 Bailey couldn't wash my balls! 1.00

00:46:50.000 Call up FIFA. 0.99

00:46:51.000 I have the best business document.

00:46:53.000 I thought a fleet of trucks was one.

00:47:00.000 Like you just said before, why can't you do it in Jamaica?

00:47:05.000 He tried tapping into the restless energy that had rubbed off on him in New York to keep busy with his immediate needs.

00:47:10.000 Formally quitting the job he left behind, he didn't really need to do that.

00:47:14.000 No, not so much.

00:47:17.000 I would like to send in my little resignation.

00:47:20.000 Hold on, I thought you owned a truck and started your own business.

00:47:22.000 Did you resign to yourself?

00:47:26.000 How do you formally do it?

00:47:29.000 I wrote myself an email from a separate account.

00:47:33.000 Was this truck written?

00:47:35.000 Jamaica, okay.

00:47:36.000 Getting his belongings shipped to Jamaica.

00:47:39.000 Finding out how to obtain a local ID.

00:47:42.000 And dealing with a stray bull roaming the backyard.

00:47:45.000 What?

00:47:47.000 All cultures are equal.

00:47:49.000 Oh, when I was in Yonkers, I never had to worry about angry bulls.

00:47:53.000 Do you think the stray bull is a cow or just a man who wants to bang him?

00:47:57.000 Well, that's just Jeff, the neighborhood bull.

00:48:02.000 Without a job or car, Mr. Blair mostly languished in his sister's home, even as he expressed fear of becoming a burden to her.

00:48:09.000 So hold on a second.

00:48:10.000 Wait a second.

00:48:10.000 I don't fully understand.

00:48:12.000 Hold on.

00:48:14.000 But without a job and living in a home that needs repairs.

00:48:17.000 Okay.

00:48:17.000 His sister had carved out an abandoned and run-down section of the house for Mr. Blair to fix up as his own.

00:48:23.000 Abandoned?

00:48:23.000 So his family isn't doing...

00:48:24.000 In other words, they're living as many Jamaicans as most Jamaicans do. 0.64

00:48:28.000 Yeah, but how do you abandon part of your home?

00:48:30.000 Well, there was a big hole in the floor.

00:48:31.000 I mean, there's maybe a room that you don't use as much, but I wouldn't call that like an abandoned portion, a wing of the estate.

00:48:36.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:37.000 I mean, I don't even know that ownership laws apply there.

00:48:40.000 It is a different place. 0.99

00:48:41.000 It's a hard place to live, and he doesn't want to be a burden to his sister, so maybe he should get his hands dirty and build some fucking house. 0.99

00:48:47.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:48:48.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to curse like that.

00:48:49.000 What happened to his fiancée?

00:48:51.000 Well...

00:48:52.000 Yeah, what is she...

00:48:52.000 They said Jamaican fiancée.

00:48:54.000 Is she Jamaican in Jamaica?

00:48:55.000 By the way...

00:48:56.000 No way!

00:48:57.000 Hey, can we bring this up?

00:48:57.000 Wasn't Jamaica listed as having pretty damn good healthcare on that international list of social...

00:49:03.000 Oh, you're right.

00:49:03.000 We were right below...

00:49:04.000 Was it Lithuania or Columbia?

00:49:06.000 Lithuania?

00:49:07.000 I wonder if it's higher than us on the list of happiness.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, Jamaica.

00:49:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:11.000 So the fiancée.

00:49:12.000 So either she doesn't want to go to Jamaica or... 0.69

00:49:16.000 She might be illegal here in America. 1.00

00:49:18.000 Yeah, she might be illegal here in America. 0.95

00:49:19.000 Maybe she is legal in America. 0.95

00:49:20.000 And she doesn't want to go back.

00:49:21.000 Maybe she's on a visa and she doesn't want to go back, which is understandable. 0.98

00:49:24.000 I will say, his relationships don't really seem to have that sticky factor.

00:49:27.000 No.

00:49:27.000 What about this kid?

00:49:29.000 Well, we don't talk about him. 1.00

00:49:31.000 We don't talk about the bastard. 0.98

00:49:33.000 His name must be Bruno. 1.00

00:49:34.000 The little bastard's lucky I made him. 0.99

00:49:37.000 Into prison walls. 1.00

00:49:40.000 He was like pain.

00:49:41.000 He was born in the dark.

00:49:43.000 I love a guy complaining about his situation while also creating...

00:49:48.000 A lifetime of struggle for another human being.

00:49:51.000 I know.

00:49:52.000 A fatherless child who would appear to have been fatherless for a while while he was even in the States.

00:49:59.000 And by the way, they even say...

00:50:00.000 Because they would have pulled that heartstring if they could have.

00:50:02.000 Yeah.

00:50:02.000 If they could have called him an outstanding citizen and an upstanding father, they would have put that in here seven times.

00:50:08.000 I bet you the divorce record is public because it says later divorced.

00:50:12.000 I'm willing to bet he divorced her.

00:50:15.000 That's what I'm willing to bet.

00:50:16.000 Well, he got out of prison three days later and was like, bye!

00:50:19.000 Yeah, he had five years to spend with his kid after getting out of prison.

00:50:23.000 Yeah, five years.

00:50:23.000 Five years to be a father, right?

00:50:25.000 Piece of shit. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Probably didn't even leave his trucking fleet to him. 1.00

00:50:30.000 No, he probably sold the truck.

00:50:34.000 Kidnappers and sons!

00:50:37.000 It's a family business! 0.66

00:50:40.000 Your grandfather was a kidnapper! 0.91

00:50:42.000 Your father was a kidnapper! 0.99

00:50:44.000 And by God, you'll be a kidnapper. 0.84

00:50:46.000 The second I find out somebody is an absent, is a totally, I don't want to say absent father, but a totally uninvolved father.

00:50:57.000 I have zero sympathy.

00:51:00.000 Yeah.

00:51:01.000 Zero sympathy.

00:51:02.000 And by the way, there are multiple steps.

00:51:03.000 Here's also proof.

00:51:04.000 When they say more education would solve, it would solve the out-of-wedlock birth problem. 0.97

00:51:10.000 This is a guy with two degrees, right?

00:51:11.000 He's a self-made man who's accomplished, apparently the best undiscovered soccer star in the world.

00:51:16.000 He could pass those skills on.

00:51:17.000 He didn't know, even though I guarantee you, they warn you during college visits.

00:51:20.000 I'm pretty sure they provide them, didn't use it, conceived a kid, and then left.

00:51:24.000 So many, many, education doesn't solve it. 0.92

00:51:27.000 Maybe a dirtbag. 0.94

00:51:28.000 Yeah.

00:51:28.000 Noodles, were you...

00:51:29.000 They sent in the healthcare stats.

00:51:32.000 And yeah, they're 67. We're 69. So good on them.

00:51:35.000 69, nice.

00:51:36.000 So why doesn't your fiancé go down to that Jamaica, get that breast cancer treated by your world-class voodoo doctor? 1.00

00:51:43.000 Watch out for the bull. 1.00

00:51:44.000 If we can get scale of happiness, watch out for the bull.

00:51:47.000 That's the doctor.

00:51:48.000 You just go in like, I think I have a lump.

00:51:50.000 All right.

00:51:51.000 We have a protocol.

00:51:52.000 You have to sacrifice a rooster.

00:51:55.000 And throw the bones. 0.87

00:51:57.000 I swear it works.

00:52:01.000 As he began taking in the island, a drive by his school, a visit to the hotel kitchen where he used to toil.

00:52:07.000 What is that?

00:52:08.000 I thought work hard.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, toil.

00:52:11.000 Toil.

00:52:13.000 Then he applied his toiling skills to kidnapping.

00:52:16.000 Yes, wow.

00:52:17.000 But realized he was on an island.

00:52:19.000 Couldn't get away.

00:52:20.000 A stroll on the field where he pursued his soccer-playing dreams.

00:52:24.000 Again with that.

00:52:24.000 But I thought it didn't feel like home.

00:52:27.000 I thought I didn't know this place.

00:52:28.000 There's a young black American kid in New York City that would love for a father to teach him how to play soccer right now.

00:52:35.000 Yep.

00:52:36.000 You're exactly right.

00:52:37.000 Yep.

00:52:37.000 By the way, you know the place that would feel most like home to this guy in the United States?

00:52:41.000 Prison.

00:52:41.000 It's true.

00:52:43.000 It's where he spent most of his time here.

00:52:44.000 It's where he spent most of his time.

00:52:46.000 Like, Jamaica, it goes in order of if home is where the heart is, you know, where you spend the most amount of time.

00:52:51.000 For him, it goes, I don't know, probably prison, then Jamaica.

00:52:56.000 Then wherever else he lived.

00:52:57.000 Maybe it's Jamaica prison.

00:52:59.000 I don't know.

00:53:00.000 Maybe we can confirm his age.

00:53:01.000 But certainly 15 years in prison was more...

00:53:03.000 He's 44 now.

00:53:04.000 Okay, so he's 44. So he spent more time in Jamaica than here, but not by a lot.

00:53:08.000 Not by a lot, and most of his time here in prison.

00:53:10.000 It looks like, at least.

00:53:11.000 Yeah.

00:53:11.000 23 to 21. Yeah.

00:53:13.000 15 years in prison, six years out of prison in the United States.

00:53:16.000 He's like, this place doesn't feel like home.

00:53:19.000 Well...

00:53:19.000 Oh, I missed this solitary.

00:53:21.000 I wonder how many senators are going to go visit Jamaica.

00:53:25.000 I can't sleep without the cries of a man in the middle of the night.

00:53:28.000 That's right.

00:53:29.000 I need to be Little Spoon. 0.97

00:53:32.000 Now, he also said...

00:53:33.000 I can't shower alone, man.

00:53:38.000 No one tried to rape me in the shower.

00:53:40.000 I don't feel wanted.

00:53:41.000 By the way, Josh and I agree with this.

00:53:43.000 Sometimes it's nice to be Little Spoon as a guy.

00:53:46.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:53:47.000 No, no, I just mean, especially when you're like, oh, I'm not always the one who has to...

00:53:53.000 Yeah, sometimes that hand drifts a little south.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:56.000 Usually because I move it.

00:53:59.000 It drifts like my boat does when I steer it.

00:54:03.000 Mr. Blair's Jamaica seems smaller to him.

00:54:07.000 In comparison to prison?

00:54:10.000 You mean you grew up and everything isn't small anymore?

00:54:13.000 Okay. After the airport, Mr. Blair's sister took her and handled the car.

00:54:21.000 If you're occupied with a mugshot and fingerprints painting, I had no idea how he would begin

00:54:25.000 It's not the deportation.

00:54:29.000 It's the reason.

00:54:30.000 It's the original history.

00:54:31.000 It's the reason for the deportation.

00:54:32.000 Yes.

00:54:33.000 Yeah.

00:54:34.000 His prospects dimmed about a month after his arrival when local news outlets wrote about his deportation.

00:54:39.000 Sorry, his deportation after ICE issued a news release with his photo publicizing his kidnapping conviction and touting his removal from the United States.

00:54:45.000 Oh no, I lost my job at the daycare!

00:54:53.000 I love to, even right before that, it says...

00:54:56.000 This deportation is not going to be good for his resume, his sister said.

00:55:00.000 They're going to assume the worst.

00:55:03.000 No, I bet you, before they have the information, they'd be like, oh, he was deported from the States?

00:55:08.000 That's been going around.

00:55:09.000 Did he overstay a visa?

00:55:10.000 Yeah, yeah, that was mainly it and the kidnapping.

00:55:13.000 What?

00:55:13.000 Huh?

00:55:14.000 That was some kidnapping there.

00:55:15.000 What was that?

00:55:16.000 Yeah, well, I had a thought this would happen when in high school he won the award of most likely to be kidnapping.

00:55:22.000 Yeah.

00:55:23.000 What did you do for the 15 years?

00:55:25.000 It's like they're going to assume the worst.

00:55:26.000 They would not assume kidnapping.

00:55:29.000 No.

00:55:29.000 They would assume visa overstay.

00:55:31.000 Yes, exactly.

00:55:32.000 They would assume maybe some kind of tax thing.

00:55:33.000 I've known people.

00:55:35.000 It doesn't even show up.

00:55:35.000 I mean, are you serious?

00:55:36.000 They're reading the resume.

00:55:37.000 They're like, yeah, 15 years for kidnapping.

00:55:39.000 I guess we're fine with that.

00:55:41.000 Deportation?

00:55:42.000 No.

00:55:42.000 Especially with how the mainstream media is selling this deportation operation by this administration.

00:55:48.000 They're selling it as this witch hunt.

00:55:52.000 This racist hunt for everyone who's not a white American. 0.76

00:55:56.000 Yeah. 0.53

00:55:57.000 And then you think they're going to assume the worst.

00:56:00.000 No.

00:56:00.000 The worst they're going to assume is that he was deported for no reason.

00:56:04.000 He had a perfectly good visa.

00:56:05.000 He's a college graduate, for crying out loud.

00:56:07.000 He's a father.

00:56:09.000 That's what they're going to assume.

00:56:10.000 Okay.

00:56:11.000 Here you go.

00:56:11.000 Hold on.

00:56:11.000 Let me just read the end of it.

00:56:12.000 Because this is how they want to leave you.

00:56:14.000 They want to leave you remembering that.

00:56:15.000 Ignore all the kidnapping.

00:56:16.000 Ignore all this.

00:56:16.000 Something about breakfast.

00:56:18.000 On a recent Sunday morning, the sun seeped.

00:56:21.000 Into the hilltop house as Mr. Blair's nephew picked June plums from the backyard to make fresh juice.

00:56:26.000 At gunpoint.

00:56:29.000 Make the fresh juice!

00:56:31.000 Watch out for the bull! 1.00

00:56:33.000 His grandmother made the bed while his sister cooked breakfast.

00:56:36.000 Beef liver, cooked banana, dumplings, and coffee.

00:56:38.000 Hey, if she's giving you a place to stay, notice he's not doing any of it.

00:56:43.000 How am I gonna get a job?

00:56:45.000 Thanks for the fresh juice.

00:56:46.000 You're making breakfast, what you're cooking.

00:56:48.000 I'll be back in the hammock.

00:56:49.000 His sister and grandmother and family, I want to be on the record saying, I like them.

00:56:54.000 They seem like good people.

00:56:55.000 They're taking care of their family.

00:56:57.000 They didn't do anything wrong here.

00:56:58.000 They all sat to eat next to two giant barrels awkwardly placed by the dining table.

00:57:03.000 The barrels were stuffed with rice, canned beans, sacks of sugar, and bottles of cooking oil.

00:57:09.000 The dry goods Mr. Blair used to ship from New York.

00:57:12.000 Sorry, the dry goods Mr. Blair used to ship from New York to help feed his family.

00:57:17.000 Now they were feeding him too.

00:57:19.000 Also, at the bottom of the barrel, they found 18 pounds of meth.

00:57:22.000 Ha ha ha.

00:57:24.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

00:57:28.000 It's just as believable.

00:57:30.000 This story.

00:57:32.000 Oh, how did that gun get in there?

00:57:35.000 Oh, that's what we call the bonus gun.

00:57:40.000 It's like Cracker Jack.

00:57:43.000 You ship a little sugar and no one knows.

00:57:46.000 Oh, there's a Browning High Power in there. 0.99

00:57:48.000 It's like a box of the Captain Crunch.

00:57:49.000 How did it get in there?

00:57:53.000 Here's the media talking about this.

00:57:55.000 Maybe there's a sticker too.

00:57:57.000 Look at this.

00:57:58.000 Fact check.

00:57:59.000 New York Times article did not fail to mention his kidnapping conviction in prison sense.

00:58:03.000 Thank you for the fact check.

00:58:05.000 Well, that's not what we said.

00:58:06.000 We didn't say they failed to mention it.

00:58:07.000 We said they downplayed it and misled about all... 1.00

00:58:11.000 So stupid. 1.00

00:58:11.000 By the way, his nephew is making the plum juice. 1.00

00:58:16.000 Are they hilltop home?

00:58:18.000 What's that?

00:58:18.000 It sounds nice.

00:58:19.000 The hilltop home as the sun...

00:58:21.000 They painted it as like he's living in paradise now.

00:58:23.000 I know.

00:58:24.000 Yeah, but they're also on an island where they would have sugar cane, and he has to ship it.

00:58:28.000 Well, maybe it's cheaper in the U.S. somehow.

00:58:31.000 I know Jamaica's run by, like, gangs and stuff in a lot of places, but it's...

00:58:35.000 I'm sorry you screwed up your island, okay?

00:58:37.000 We didn't do it.

00:58:38.000 I'm not sorry.

00:58:39.000 You guys did it.

00:58:40.000 I'm not sorry.

00:58:41.000 No, I meant the people in general.

00:58:43.000 You should have not screwed up Paradise.

00:58:46.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 Sorry.

00:58:47.000 When I was in Guantanamo Bay, there were a lot of Jamaicans who worked there, and a lot of the guys who were working there were constantly getting mugged by them.

00:58:55.000 What?

00:58:55.000 Yeah.

00:58:56.000 I went deep sea fishing with a guy who was like a real life Ralphie Mae.

00:58:58.000 He was like 400 pounds.

00:59:00.000 And I remember I had some fish in the cooler that we had caught.

00:59:03.000 He was like, oh man, you gotta put that away.

00:59:06.000 You can't just walk around that cool.

00:59:07.000 You gotta put it there.

00:59:07.000 I got a spare cooler.

00:59:08.000 You gotta put it in there.

00:59:09.000 He goes, well I'm telling you, last week I had a Jamaican.

00:59:11.000 He said, they love bonefish.

00:59:12.000 They go nuts.

00:59:13.000 I said, one guy came out and he had enough. 1.00

00:59:14.000 I said, you motherfuckers gonna stab me with a bonefish. 1.00

00:59:19.000 And he showed me the cut. 1.00

00:59:20.000 The guy stabbed him with a penknife for a bonefish.

00:59:23.000 Seriously?

00:59:23.000 Yeah.

00:59:24.000 Oh my gosh.

00:59:26.000 Did he kill the guy?

00:59:28.000 No, I didn't kill the guy. 0.63

00:59:29.000 I mean, I think it was a surface wound because he was really fat.

00:59:32.000 That doesn't matter. 0.59

00:59:33.000 You got stabbed.

00:59:34.000 That's the headline.

Louder with Crowder - April 26, 2025

This NYT Article Glazing a Deported Jamaican Kidnapping Drug Dealer is Absolutely Bonkers

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