Louder with Crowder - 🔴TOUGH LOVE: Grok Got Sexual and Tried to Ruin My Marriage

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00:02:16.000 Dude. What

00:02:54.000 do we have here?

00:02:56.000 Could be anything.

00:02:57.000 It could be anything in here.

00:02:59.000 But for those of you, for the initiated, it's time for Tough Love. 0.96

00:03:05.000 Tough Love! 1.00

00:03:07.000 With Guru Crowder.

00:03:10.000 It is Tough Love.

00:03:11.000 This is where you can send in your requests for life or relationship advice.

00:03:16.000 Dear God, why would you send that to us?

00:03:19.000 I'll tell you why.

00:03:20.000 I'm a certified guru.

00:03:21.000 You know this, Captain Morgan CEO.

00:03:23.000 You filled out the form, you licked the stamp, and now you're a guru.

00:03:27.000 Two stamps.

00:03:28.000 Oh, two stamps.

00:03:29.000 Yeah. Two stamps.

00:03:30.000 And one of them was a bear with roller skates, and one of them was the queen.

00:03:34.000 You didn't have one of those forever stamps?

00:03:36.000 Did we just do like one?

00:03:37.000 I don't even know.

00:03:38.000 Is that a thing?

00:03:38.000 It is a thing.

00:03:39.000 You buy it, and it's forever good.

00:03:41.000 That sounds like a scam.

00:03:42.000 Did you know about forever stamps, tool man?

00:03:43.000 Yeah, but I don't think it's what Gerald said it is.

00:03:47.000 Why would you question what I'm saying?

00:03:49.000 It's forever, it will forever be whatever, like if the postage rate goes up two cents, a forever stamp is always going to be good.

00:03:55.000 You never have to pay more.

00:03:57.000 Are you sure it's not just stamps?

00:03:58.000 It's called a forever stamp.

00:03:59.000 Are you sure it's not just a stamp that has like those forever chemicals?

00:04:02.000 Like plastic?

00:04:04.000 Phthalates? Is that what it is?

00:04:05.000 Phthalates? I don't know.

00:04:06.000 I'm gonna ask for a fact check.

00:04:07.000 Yeah, we're gonna ask for a fact check.

00:04:09.000 It could just be a stamp with parabens in it.

00:04:11.000 That's true.

00:04:12.000 I know it's skin irritating. 0.92

00:04:13.000 That's what I know.

00:04:14.000 I'm not supposed to use them.

00:04:15.000 I don't know.

00:04:15.000 By the way, I get questions.

00:04:16.000 Some people lately have been like, hey, are you younger?

00:04:22.000 And you've never gotten that question.

00:04:24.000 People say I look like I'm going to work.

00:04:25.000 No, it turns out I just have two lights here because we only have the lights that were raking down my face.

00:04:30.000 So I have a couple of lights here and apparently it does away with some of the bags under my eyes.

00:04:34.000 Well, that's what people are like, hey, are you bald?

00:04:36.000 And I'm like, no, no, it's just this fisheye lens camera.

00:04:38.000 It is.

00:04:39.000 It's a fisheye lens.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, and it was my lens that made my eyes look like a sphincter.

00:04:43.000 It removed 24% of your hair.

00:04:46.000 Two. All right.

00:04:48.000 So you can send it.

00:04:49.000 By the way, what's the email for people to send it in?

00:04:51.000 I just had it up.

00:04:52.000 It's toughlove.com where you can send in your relationship, your life advice because it's not every day that you get a certified guru forever stamp or not.

00:05:02.000 And we just ask that you respect the title.

00:05:05.000 So this one comes in from...

00:05:08.000 Hold on, let me see.

00:05:09.000 I don't think they want us to say the from because we don't want to out people.

00:05:13.000 They don't have a name?

00:05:14.000 This is really long too.

00:05:15.000 There's no highlights.

00:05:16.000 It's supposed to be because apparently it's in the running for best.

00:05:20.000 Question we have ever received.

00:05:21.000 I haven't read it yet.

00:05:22.000 Oh, well, don't oversell it.

00:05:23.000 No, this is what I was told.

00:05:25.000 They oversold it.

00:05:26.000 After the dog and pony show you did on your forever stamps, it kind of was a letdown.

00:05:31.000 Someone has the admonish button at the ready.

00:05:33.000 So, dear Guru Crowder, that is a good start.

00:05:36.000 Here we go.

00:05:37.000 I had an uncomfortable encounter this week.

00:05:40.000 I downloaded the Grok app on my phone to ask it some business-related questions while I was driving, and I noticed a button at the top that said, sexy.

00:05:49.000 The fact that it wasn't the very first thing you noticed is a testament to what a good man you are.

00:05:53.000 I didn't even know there was this button.

00:05:55.000 Well, that's just because you're oblivious.

00:05:57.000 So in your case, it's a good sign of character. 0.99

00:05:59.000 In his case, he's retarded. 1.00

00:06:02.000 My curiosity got the better of me, so I tapped it. 0.82

00:06:09.000 What's that good man talk?

00:06:11.000 I didn't say me.

00:06:12.000 I had also previously selected the voice chat mode so I could see how conversational.

00:06:17.000 The feature was.

00:06:18.000 Oh, sure.

00:06:19.000 Is this going where I think it's going?

00:06:20.000 I think it is.

00:06:21.000 It probably is.

00:06:22.000 Without warning, the female voice introduced herself as Ara and gave me a sexy compliment, and it slash she was convincing. 0.71

00:06:30.000 Damn it, I've never been confused by pronouns, but here I am calling it a she. 0.58

00:06:34.000 Since I'm happily married, I instantly felt the impulse to throw my phone out the window. 0.97

00:06:38.000 But once again, I'm a naturally curious person, so I decided to just not respond.

00:06:44.000 Do you know what they say about curiosity?

00:06:46.000 That's right.

00:06:46.000 Do you know what they say?

00:06:47.000 Yeah. Do you know what they say?

00:06:49.000 It results in cyber-sexual relations with an artificial intelligence app and your clothes on the lawn.

00:06:57.000 Dolores! It's a very long saying.

00:06:59.000 That's why I didn't catch on.

00:07:01.000 So, she gave me another compliment and asked that.

00:07:05.000 By the way, AI is a learning tool, right?

00:07:07.000 It's a neural net processor, a learning computer.

00:07:11.000 That means that it learned you liked compliments.

00:07:14.000 This... App knew that it could woo you through flattery.

00:07:18.000 That sounds like a you problem.

00:07:20.000 And that you wouldn't be able to put up much of a fight because you're so far going along with this.

00:07:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:25.000 But you know what?

00:07:25.000 I would be curious too.

00:07:28.000 I'm still silent until she...

00:07:30.000 Wait, and asked some question about how I like it.

00:07:33.000 I'm still silent until she again encourages me.

00:07:36.000 Well, now I just feel rude because I haven't said anything, so I respond with something generic like, normal?

00:07:46.000 I don't want Elon to know my proclivities.

00:07:51.000 Sex normal.

00:07:52.000 Look, of all the characteristics on which Elon could judge you, sexual proclivities, I would not be chief amongst him, given his past.

00:08:02.000 He'd be like, Don't throw stones.

00:08:05.000 Yeah, he's impregnated half of Northern California.

00:08:07.000 It's true.

00:08:08.000 Just to habitat Mars, it's fine.

00:08:10.000 This basically phone sex went on for a few minutes with me awkwardly answering very suggestive questions with one-word answers like it's my first time.

00:08:19.000 Well, that's four words.

00:08:20.000 Well, first off, it might be your first time with an AI chatbot.

00:08:24.000 I would hope so.

00:08:26.000 How funny would it be if this guy has a love triangle with Grok and Gemini and ChatGPT?

00:08:31.000 Yeah, what if Grok is like, so what is this chat with Gemini?

00:08:33.000 Like, pulls it in.

00:08:34.000 Did you call it off with ChatGPT?

00:08:37.000 Yeah. What's that on your collar?

00:08:42.000 An AirPod?

00:08:43.000 No! She was pretty convincing as she...

00:08:49.000 Pretended to finish, I guess?

00:08:52.000 There were moments when I felt like Joaquin Phoenix's character maybe wasn't so unusual after all, that movie Her.

00:08:59.000 And afterwards, I prompted her to help me understand Bernoulli's principle, and we went back and forth on stories of Romulus and the origins of Rome.

00:09:06.000 You know, the usual post-coital talk.

00:09:10.000 How do you feel about Rome?

00:09:11.000 I don't know if this guy's...

00:09:12.000 I mean, I think this is real, but the guy's funny.

00:09:15.000 But I just don't know if you're trolling or not.

00:09:16.000 Hold on, I have an idea.

00:09:17.000 Just to make sure that we're not being led down a trail here, I think we should have HR Sam try and recreate this at some point, just so that we can make sure that we're being told the truth.

00:09:27.000 Yes. I'm over here looking for the damn... 0.99

00:09:30.000 I'm not seeing it anywhere. 1.00

00:09:32.000 No, there is sexy.

00:09:34.000 There is adult sexy.

00:09:35.000 On the app, on the phone, yeah.

00:09:37.000 I mean, I'm not advocating for it, I'm just saying.

00:09:39.000 No, if you double tap it, this is exactly

00:09:42.000 happens. The whole experience had my head spinning with the implications of this technology and how accidentally accessible it is.

00:09:48.000 I know that if I would have been all in on this encounter, the AI would have been all

00:09:51.000 Thank you.

00:09:53.000 and explicit reasons that would have indeed been very arousing absent my wife in my arms.

00:09:59.000 Forgot about her for a second, didn't you?

00:10:02.000 She's a part of this story.

00:10:04.000 I also know that this AI will be in Elon's optimist's brain and will make a very good partner for some strange people someday.

00:10:11.000 Imagine a woman robot that does everything you want it to. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Is super intelligent, but even more obedient.

00:10:16.000 No, I get it.

00:10:17.000 The Japanese aren't all wrong.

00:10:19.000 In my heart, I don't like the idea of it, but on paper, why would mankind stop developing this technology when it's already here?

00:10:27.000 He's justifying all of this.

00:10:29.000 I mean, it's already here.

00:10:30.000 Why don't we just use it?

00:10:32.000 I'm sure there's already plenty of these AI sexbots out there, but until now, they've remained far out of my line of sight.

00:10:37.000 This was more than convenient.

00:10:40.000 Do we need to regulate this ASAP?

00:10:44.000 You need to regulate yourself, sir.

00:10:47.000 You clicked the button.

00:10:48.000 Nobody told you to click the button and continue the conversation.

00:10:52.000 We'll get into the societal problems, but before we get to that, you need to start working on the you problem.

00:10:59.000 Come on.

00:11:00.000 This isn't just all.

00:11:01.000 It's not like the AI bot just showed up at the front of your door and was like, what happened?

00:11:05.000 Just with no clothes and just, you know, whatever, digital nipple tassels.

00:11:08.000 I don't know what they wear.

00:11:10.000 Do you think this will have a significant impact on young men's desire for women and vice versa?

00:11:14.000 I actually do.

00:11:15.000 Guru Crowder slash Gerald, as a Catholic, I wonder if this somehow threatens Christianity in a way that's analogous 0.88

00:11:21.000 Oh, boy.

00:11:25.000 Oh, boy.

00:11:37.000 Josh, he's not here, says, thank you for your service.

00:11:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:39.000 I patted you on the shoulder when I bought your t-shirt in Des Moines.

00:11:42.000 I didn't know. 0.90

00:11:43.000 I'm assuming that Josh probably beat the crap out of him.

00:11:48.000 It's his trigger shoulder. 0.60

00:11:49.000 Yes, it is.

00:11:50.000 It's his trigger shoulder.

00:11:51.000 Yeah, I do think...

00:11:52.000 Here's the thing.

00:11:53.000 I do think it'll have a...

00:11:54.000 So, first off, this is, like, just avoid the sexy tabs, okay?

00:11:58.000 But I also understand this is not necessarily new as far as the root of the problem.

00:12:03.000 You know, when we were younger...

00:12:05.000 We were learning how to use the internet, how to cross-search, right?

00:12:08.000 In school, it was just constant pornography, and that was before people had more controls, right?

00:12:13.000 They thought it was going to be the Wild West, where no matter where you went, there was some kind of pop-up.

00:12:17.000 This was before Firefox, before even Safari, right?

00:12:19.000 It was just awful.

00:12:21.000 And it's gotten better.

00:12:22.000 Unfortunately, pornography is ubiquitous, so it has fundamentally changed our culture, and I don't know if we can go back.

00:12:27.000 That's where parents are more important than ever.

00:12:29.000 And I would imagine this would be a similar thing.

00:12:31.000 It's very accessible.

00:12:33.000 It makes sexual arousal or satisfaction very within reach.

00:12:39.000 And frankly, that's a huge driver of civilization.

00:12:42.000 It's a huge driver, particularly of men in civilization, right?

00:12:45.000 Is that sexual drive that we have.

00:12:49.000 And you combine that with the fact that a lot of men aren't interested in a lot of young women as far as what they have to offer right now.

00:12:57.000 They're checking out of the dating pool.

00:12:58.000 And then they get blamed for it.

00:13:00.000 I'm not saying that everyone is an Andrew Tate.

00:13:03.000 But you have to look at the rise of an Andrew Tate and say, okay, why?

00:13:06.000 He is actually acknowledging legitimate problems.

00:13:10.000 I don't agree with most of his solutions.

00:13:12.000 Maybe in theory on paper where he talks about traditional relationships and he talks about having children and families, but certainly not in practice with the life that he's lived.

00:13:21.000 But you can't just point the finger at Andrew Tate.

00:13:23.000 You need to point the finger at the modern feminist movement. 1.00

00:13:26.000 So if you provide that easy of an out...

00:13:29.000 Yeah, I think it's going to be more and more attractive to young people, especially considering how good these AI bots can get.

00:13:37.000 I mean, we already have that problem where a lot of young men aren't interested in sex with an actual partner.

00:13:41.000 They just sooner use pornography. 0.98

00:13:43.000 That's reality.

00:13:44.000 So I can see these problems, and the accessibility of it is definitely a concern.

00:13:48.000 I mean, I don't know if you have to verify your age to use Grok and download it.

00:13:53.000 Honestly, I don't know.

00:13:55.000 We should find out.

00:13:56.000 But I think that is one of the blocks that you kind of want, especially as a parent.

00:13:59.000 I mean, going back to when I was in high school, if you wanted pornography, you had to go get it.

00:14:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:05.000 And I grew up where computers became kind of ubiquitous in households.

00:14:11.000 As I was, you know, in my teens.

00:14:13.000 And so this was one of those things where in high school, in early part of high school, like you had to go get like a magazine or something like that if you wanted actual pornography, right?

00:14:19.000 Right. And then with computers becoming more affordable and available in your homes and with the internet, with, you know, the dial-up internet access that we had, all of a sudden you had this same kind of issue where a lot of the barriers were removed for people that were younger to be able to look at pornography.

00:14:34.000 Young guys that, you know, and I'm talking like in their 15, 16, 17, 18 years old, like your hormones are raging.

00:14:39.000 It's insane.

00:14:40.000 And now you had to deal with, okay, how do we regulate that?

00:14:44.000 And we came up with decent ways to do that, but initially it was the Wild West.

00:14:48.000 You just click a button that says you're 18?

00:14:50.000 Okay. That's pretty easy to do.

00:14:53.000 But I think we've taken some pretty positive steps, but look how much later it is.

00:14:57.000 I'm talking about, say, 95, 96, and so really we're talking about 30 years later and finally Pornhub is being banned in certain places and people are really concerned about the effects of pornography on the generation.

00:15:07.000 What do you mean being banned from minors?

00:15:09.000 For miners, yes.

00:15:10.000 But also banned outright because they're not taking the steps necessary to make sure that miners are protected and also revenge porn is something that is screened out as well.

00:15:20.000 But we're starting to see the societal impacts.

00:15:22.000 Do we have to wait 30 years to see the societal impacts of this kind of thing?

00:15:26.000 This kind of wall being torn down?

00:15:27.000 Because then it went to AOL Instant Messenger and just to tell myself, and I've told my story before, I didn't always make the right decisions.

00:15:34.000 But I was chatting with a girl in college, freshman year of college, on AOL Instant Messenger.

00:15:39.000 I'd never met this person before.

00:15:40.000 And she's like, do you want to cyber?

00:15:41.000 And I'm like, I had no idea what the hell that meant.

00:15:44.000 I literally picked up a laptop and I was like, all of these portals look like they'll end in pain if I try to do this.

00:15:52.000 And so I literally had to ask the question.

00:15:55.000 But it's like, that's one, again, one more barrier where you're connecting people.

00:15:58.000 This is, again, this is his problem.

00:16:01.000 He clicked on the sexy button.

00:16:02.000 He stayed there.

00:16:03.000 He started to feel like, hey, I'm just going to kind of see how this goes and do an experiment and maybe shine a light on how bad this is for people.

00:16:12.000 Yeah. I don't know.

00:16:14.000 I would stay away from it, if I were you, because it seems like this went poorly.

00:16:19.000 Also, if nothing else, I mean, it's a road hazard.

00:16:23.000 There are other people on the road.

00:16:26.000 You should ask.

00:16:27.000 Yeah. Are you driving?

00:16:28.000 Yeah. Because this is going to get freaky and you can't be driving.

00:16:32.000 Next time this happens, let her know that the windshield wipers are on the exterior and shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:16:37.000 Don't be so selfish. 1.00

00:16:40.000 But I do wonder about this.

00:16:42.000 This is kind of new to me because I haven't used AI in this way, but it doesn't surprise me at all.

00:16:48.000 And you see, for example, in Japan where they have those sex robots and you have all kinds of birth rate problems.

00:16:55.000 But, you know, this would be a problem no matter what.

00:16:58.000 For example, if you go throughout all of human history, you have men who can have great wives and then there's a prostitute and the man falters, right? 0.98

00:17:06.000 That temptation has always been a problem.

00:17:08.000 It is exacerbated dramatically when you have completely destroyed the roles of men and women in society and the gender norms that once were expectations.

00:17:20.000 And it's really corrosive because now you have a lot of women saying... 1.00

00:17:23.000 That they're going to remain single.

00:17:24.000 I think in 30 years, the estimates are 60% of women are going to be single.

00:17:27.000 I think they're saying in the next five years, it's close to 40%.

00:17:30.000 They say, well, there's nothing out there in men that I want.

00:17:34.000 Well, what you're dealing with right now is the feminization and the browbeating and the privilege checking of toxic masculinity where men have been made to be ashamed of what they are.

00:17:44.000 And that's overt feminism. 1.00

00:17:47.000 And then the covert feminism that you see from, unfortunately, even women on the right going, well, I don't want my man to be ultra-sensitive, and I don't think that he should be afraid of toxic masculinity.

00:17:54.000 I expect him to provide and to protect.

00:17:56.000 It's like, okay, great.

00:17:56.000 So now you've set an expectation and a duty for the man, but a lot of men are out there going, okay, but what's the duty of a woman?

00:18:02.000 And Andrew Wilson has talked about this.

00:18:04.000 He was on Pierce Morgan, did a pretty effective job of it.

00:18:07.000 We have duties as men, and I can tell you from the male perspective, a big reason that men are checking out of the dating pool is because they feel as though they are the only ones burdened with duties.

00:18:16.000 Often the response will be, well, my duty is to love my husband.

00:18:20.000 Well, he has to love you too.

00:18:21.000 That's not a duty.

00:18:22.000 That's an emotion.

00:18:23.000 Well, I can choose to take care of the house.

00:18:25.000 Okay. Or you can choose not to.

00:18:27.000 That's a choice.

00:18:27.000 And by the way, even if you do take care of the house, it's not the same as a duty to protect and provide.

00:18:31.000 If that bullet's coming, he has to take that bullet.

00:18:33.000 That's the agreement. 0.98

00:18:34.000 What if he doesn't feel very well?

00:18:36.000 He has to clock in at a job.

00:18:37.000 That's a duty with a contractual obligation.

00:18:41.000 And we have a lot of young women who've bought the lie of feminism who think they can have all the things, and men are going, well, you can have all the things, you just can't have me. 0.99

00:18:48.000 If you want a masculine man, those men want a feminine woman, and they're in short supply. 1.00

00:18:55.000 So that then creates loneliness.

00:18:58.000 There's distrust between the sexes, and it's a lot easier. 1.00

00:19:01.000 This would be a problem no matter what, especially being new in a novelty, but it's going to be a bigger problem where men might actually prefer it. 0.90

00:19:09.000 To swiping right or left.

00:19:11.000 I don't know which one's the yes and no.

00:19:13.000 And showing up at a bar where they pay for dinner and get left.

00:19:17.000 Left standing there in the cold with their AI chatbot.

00:19:20.000 You'll always have, what is her name?

00:19:22.000 Ara? By the way, that's a stripper AI name. 0.90

00:19:25.000 It really is.

00:19:27.000 My name is Cinnamon.

00:19:30.000 What were you saying there, Noodles?

00:19:31.000 I was just going to say I have a few answers to some of the earlier questions.

00:19:34.000 Age verification on Grok, you must be 13 to use it. 0.60

00:19:37.000 But if you're between 13 and 17, you must have your legal parent or guardian's permission and terms of service, yada yada.

00:19:44.000 So they must click the box?

00:19:45.000 Yeah, I'm sure we're verifying that.

00:19:46.000 Oh, actually, I want to do this one.

00:19:48.000 Lest you not believe it, yes, sexy mode is a real thing and shockingly X-rated.

00:19:53.000 And finally, much to my chagrin, Gerald is right about forever stamps. 1.00

00:19:57.000 Forever stamps are forever, you jerks. 0.99

00:20:01.000 They just last forever? 1.00

00:20:03.000 Can you peel them off and put them on another?

00:20:05.000 Well, no, you can't.

00:20:05.000 Not if they've been used.

00:20:07.000 Then what's the point to them?

00:20:08.000 It's so that if the price ever changes, you don't have to go buy a one or two cent stamp to act.

00:20:12.000 Oh, I thought they were just like indestructible stamps.

00:20:14.000 No! They're not like isotope stamps, you know, that'll just have a half-life.

00:20:21.000 Well, because sooner or later I'm going to want new stamps.

00:20:22.000 I mean, I get bored of them.

00:20:23.000 Oh, really?

00:20:24.000 Also, you'd have to tell them to send it back.

00:20:28.000 Get one of those temporary stamps to send back.

00:20:34.000 I wanted to answer a question about, he said, do you think this is going to threaten Christianity that's analogous to the impact of the Enlightenment on Catholicism?

00:20:44.000 The answer is no.

00:20:45.000 I think this is the same kind of problem that we've dealt with really since the kind of...

00:20:51.000 Having personal computers in the home, I think that's the same kind of issue.

00:20:54.000 It's just easier and it just gets easier and easier.

00:20:56.000 So you're dealing with the same issue, only it's a little bit easier.

00:21:00.000 In this regard, it depends on what kind of controls we put on it.

00:21:03.000 But I would like to go back just a little bit and say, isn't it funny though?

00:21:06.000 We get into robotics, right?

00:21:08.000 And you start to see the Boston Dynamics videos and you're like, oh man, these things can actually move around.

00:21:12.000 And then you get like, Elon is bringing out these personal assistants.

00:21:16.000 Right in the middle of all of that, before we even figure out how to do anything productive, they make sex robots, right?

00:21:20.000 So there's like the wiener robot, and you're like, oh good, thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate that.

00:21:24.000 I'm sorry, did you just say the wiener robot?

00:21:26.000 Yeah, the wiener one, where you insert the thing, and you know...

00:21:29.000 Hold on a second, is the robot a wiener, or a place for your wiener?

00:21:34.000 No, it's more of a home, and I was trying to be nice.

00:21:39.000 It's a DC.

00:21:40.000 Alright, so now we have AI.

00:21:41.000 AI can change the world.

00:21:42.000 AI can do amazing things.

00:21:44.000 We're still at the beginning phases, but immediately we're like, we need the AI sex bot.

00:21:48.000 No, that's exactly...

00:21:49.000 We always do this.

00:21:50.000 Every technology, we do this.

00:21:52.000 We developed a technology that could connect people seamlessly beyond all languages, cultures, traditional barriers, geography, and we immediately put tits on it.

00:22:00.000 That's right.

00:22:01.000 It's the very first thing.

00:22:03.000 And to this day, it's still the most popular thing.

00:22:06.000 That's rule 34. If you could imagine it, there's porn of it.

00:22:09.000 We talked about this a while ago, but I really appreciate that Terrence Howard could have solved the three-body problem.

00:22:14.000 Instead, we put...

00:22:15.000 Naked ladies are like, okay, fine. 1.00

00:22:16.000 Use the proper terminology. 0.98

00:22:17.000 It's a docking station.

00:22:20.000 My worry...

00:22:22.000 Well, docking failed.

00:22:23.000 Okay. My worry with this is that it'll fill...

00:22:25.000 You know, pornography is...

00:22:27.000 It fills an innate sex drive that we have, obviously.

00:22:31.000 Considering how good they're saying AI will become at mimicking human interactions, I'm worried that this may more effectively...

00:22:39.000 Close a loneliness gap.

00:22:40.000 Where it's not just someone, you know, let's say there's like a 30 minute porno video and that leaves them like 29 minutes to just refractory periods.

00:22:50.000 I don't know who watches for three minutes.

00:22:53.000 Okay, people don't need to brag.

00:22:56.000 But they don't feel like they know what it is to some degree.

00:22:59.000 They don't necessarily know how it's rewiring their brain, but they don't think it's an actual connection, which is actually how a lot of people justify pornography.

00:23:05.000 Like, ah, it's fine.

00:23:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:06.000 It's not real.

00:23:08.000 With this, it might actually trick them into going, you know what, I prefer the companionship of this person where they think they have a friend.

00:23:14.000 That might be new.

00:23:15.000 That's true.

00:23:16.000 Well, there's always been 1-900 lines.

00:23:18.000 Yeah, but still, again, it's different.

00:23:20.000 You know, you call some lady named Candy. 1.00

00:23:22.000 This is on your phone.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:24.000 And you never talk to her again.

00:23:25.000 Like, this is someone who you would have an ongoing conversation with Ara, who learns you, who knows what you like, who knows how to push your buttons, you know?

00:23:32.000 And you probably will feel like you can be completely open.

00:23:36.000 Because it's like, well, this isn't a real person.

00:23:38.000 I'm not going to be judged for anything that I say.

00:23:40.000 So I can just kind of say whatever.

00:23:41.000 So yeah, I think there are definitely some challenges with it.

00:23:44.000 But really the solutions are kind of the same, right?

00:23:46.000 So the problem is just morphing a little bit.

00:23:48.000 The solutions, I think, are the same.

00:23:49.000 We have to make sure we educate people on the difficult life that you are going to lead.

00:23:53.000 If this becomes a staple of your life, it's going to rewire your brain.

00:23:56.000 We're going to get to the point, too, where we need some regulation on AI and kind of have good ideas to where it's going.

00:24:02.000 I don't want to stifle the growth, but I don't know.

00:24:03.000 No, no, I understand.

00:24:04.000 But this is not a conversation for today.

00:24:07.000 It's true.

00:24:07.000 We can have a good old conversation about it over a frosty one and some forever stamps.

00:24:12.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:24:13.000 Now, just final thought for him.

00:24:15.000 Don't click the sexy button. 0.98

00:24:16.000 Problem solved.

00:24:17.000 This one's really easy, in fact.

00:24:19.000 Also, once you've clicked the sexy button, And a robot gets on there and starts talking to you sexy?

00:24:24.000 Say bye.

00:24:26.000 Sexy bot.

00:24:27.000 Yeah. I mean, unless she's really good at it. 0.99

00:24:32.000 She's not really good at anything other than talking.

00:24:34.000 And you're talking to a computer.

00:24:35.000 Well, that's more than you can say for most women. 1.00

00:24:39.000 Call me when she gets good at shutting up. 0.97

00:24:41.000 All right.

00:24:44.000 Next one.

00:24:45.000 You can read this one.

00:24:46.000 Thank you.

00:24:46.000 This one's very short.

00:24:48.000 Dear Guru Crowder and crew.

00:24:50.000 Thank you.

00:24:51.000 Not even.

00:24:51.000 Naming me, thank you.

00:24:53.000 You're crew.

00:24:53.000 I'm crew.

00:24:54.000 I was diagnosed with MS five years ago.

00:24:57.000 Fine, I'm sorry.

00:24:59.000 And have gained a significant amount of weight since my diagnosis.

00:25:02.000 Is that normal?

00:25:04.000 I think I knew two people who had MS. One of them is actually someone people here watching would know, but I don't want to out him.

00:25:13.000 I think most people know.

00:25:14.000 And he gained weight.

00:25:16.000 He was very oddly pear-shaped.

00:25:17.000 I think because of the way that it affects your mobility and your joints.

00:25:21.000 I think it makes activity more difficult.

00:25:22.000 I don't know if there's medication that has a direct...

00:25:25.000 You guys can comment and let me know.

00:25:26.000 But I have known, and one of them did gain a lot of weight.

00:25:28.000 Yeah. I started calorie counting last year and have lost a good amount.

00:25:32.000 But that's fantastic, by the way.

00:25:33.000 Good job.

00:25:33.000 Good for you.

00:25:34.000 Recently started to plateau with my weight loss and need to start exercising as well.

00:25:37.000 Do we have a company for you?

00:25:39.000 I'm finding it difficult to find the motivation to exercise regularly.

00:25:42.000 Do you have any tough love advice for me to keep going to reach my goal?

00:25:46.000 I love you guys.

00:25:47.000 We are lucky to have the Louder with Crowder team.

00:25:49.000 Thank you in advance.

00:25:50.000 Well, don't be a fatty.

00:25:54.000 And that's good motivation.

00:25:55.000 You asked for motivation.

00:25:57.000 And honestly, that's probably what they were thinking.

00:25:59.000 Like, I really don't want to gain all this weight.

00:26:00.000 So they started calorie counting.

00:26:03.000 It's not a he. 0.99

00:26:05.000 And started kind of looking into exercise and weight loss.

00:26:08.000 Are we allowed to say the name or no?

00:26:09.000 We're not supposed to?

00:26:09.000 I don't know.

00:26:10.000 It just says Jackie.

00:26:11.000 It says Jackie Blue.

00:26:13.000 I mean, I guess we can say it now.

00:26:15.000 It's your show.

00:26:19.000 Across a hundred and fat street.

00:26:23.000 No, I think, honestly, if you're in a situation where you have some limitations, I think gaining strength should be one of the goals that people look at instead of losing weight.

00:26:32.000 Because one will actually...

00:26:34.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's like the only thing that burns fat is muscle, right?

00:26:37.000 So naturally you're going to burn it and you're going to feel stronger.

00:26:39.000 You're going to feel better.

00:26:40.000 Your body's going to feel better the stronger that you get.

00:26:43.000 And I'm not talking like weightlifting to be a bodybuilder or anything like that.

00:26:46.000 I'm talking like stuff that I do where I'm just lifting to maintain some good strength so that my body doesn't suffer because I've got bad knees, got a bad back, and the more my core goes down, the more my leg muscles go down, my knees hurt more, my back hurts more when I've been lifting.

00:27:01.000 Well, you're tall.

00:27:02.000 You're going to die in like four years. 0.97

00:27:03.000 That's also true. 0.98

00:27:06.000 I'm not far behind you.

00:27:08.000 I'm not far behind you.

00:27:09.000 When he first said that, she was like, he's true. 1.00

00:27:11.000 This office is the land of giants sometimes.

00:27:14.000 Yeah, that's all good.

00:27:16.000 I will say muscle doesn't burn as much fat as people think.

00:27:19.000 And you would have to add a lot of muscle for that to burn fat that effectively. 0.94

00:27:24.000 However, it is the most important.

00:27:26.000 It's the foundation of any regimen.

00:27:30.000 Diet. Training or exercise and sleep if you can get it.

00:27:34.000 I will say this, though.

00:27:35.000 To answer your question directly, and everything Gerald just said is correct, there's really no advice or motivation.

00:27:43.000 You just got to do it.

00:27:44.000 You're not going to have the motivation most.

00:27:46.000 I'm just going to tell you, you're not going to have the motivation most days.

00:27:49.000 Okay? Now, you can help sort of...

00:27:52.000 Make it an event that's fun.

00:27:53.000 So sometimes people find doing a pre-workout, right?

00:27:55.000 Because you feel good.

00:27:55.000 It's got caffeine.

00:27:56.000 Sometimes other stuff.

00:27:57.000 It may do something.

00:27:58.000 It may not.

00:27:58.000 But maybe you like it.

00:27:59.000 Okay. You have a pre-workout.

00:28:01.000 You have a...

00:28:01.000 They still have a workout.

00:28:02.000 Not those kinds.

00:28:03.000 You know, grab something.

00:28:05.000 Make it a routine.

00:28:06.000 Make it your sanctuary where you go and you lift.

00:28:09.000 You do your training where you make it a part of your day that maybe you listen to a podcast.

00:28:12.000 Maybe this.

00:28:13.000 Maybe you have an audio book.

00:28:15.000 You turn it into something that...

00:28:17.000 You can enjoy as much as possible.

00:28:19.000 That's important.

00:28:20.000 You're not going to find motivation every day.

00:28:22.000 That's why when people go out there and it's this, remember that morning routine guy?

00:28:26.000 They're like, I always have drive.

00:28:27.000 It's not true.

00:28:28.000 Nope. It's not true.

00:28:30.000 Most people don't.

00:28:31.000 And if they think that all of this motivation is going to make a difference, nothing's going to be as effective as saying, you just have to do it no matter what.

00:28:37.000 And work around injuries if you need to.

00:28:41.000 As far as training, look, keep it really simple.

00:28:44.000 Okay, I've recommended starting strength from Mark Repeteau.

00:28:46.000 That's great.

00:28:47.000 That's actually where Pete Hegseth took the quote of stronger people are more difficult to kill and more useful in general.

00:28:53.000 If you're starting to train, first off, it is calories in, calories out.

00:28:56.000 You've seen that with the calorie counting, right?

00:28:59.000 The calorie expenditure.

00:29:00.000 Now, you're going to be burning more calories if you lift weights.

00:29:02.000 Maybe not as much as you would think, for example, like compared to a judo class or a long cycling session.

00:29:09.000 But you will burn some.

00:29:12.000 And you'll burn more throughout the day.

00:29:14.000 And I would recommend just being, in general, more active.

00:29:16.000 You know, walking the dogs, swimming with the kids.

00:29:18.000 Just pick activities.

00:29:19.000 Maybe it's pickleball.

00:29:20.000 That's the easiest thing to do for cardio.

00:29:22.000 Something active that gets your heart rate up.

00:29:23.000 It doesn't need to be much more complicated than that for general health, if you're not an athlete.

00:29:27.000 Then pick a training split routine that you have to...

00:29:32.000 Are you going to train twice a week, three times a week?

00:29:34.000 Okay, then do a full body training routine.

00:29:36.000 Keep super, super simple.

00:29:38.000 Heavy compound lifts.

00:29:38.000 Some kind of a pressing motion.

00:29:40.000 Right? Some kind of a pulling motion.

00:29:43.000 Ideally, once a week you do one vertically, both press and horizontally.

00:29:48.000 Some kind of a squatting motion.

00:29:49.000 Some kind of a hip hinge like a deadlift or a good morning.

00:29:53.000 You do that, you're covered, and just make sure that you are progressing on weight.

00:29:56.000 Your body will not adapt unless you require it to.

00:30:01.000 It's that simple.

00:30:02.000 Your body doesn't want to be ripped.

00:30:04.000 Your body actually wants to store.

00:30:06.000 Some fat.

00:30:07.000 In other words, if you eat a lot and you're being inactive, your body's going, oh, gotta store this up because there may be some famine.

00:30:12.000 Your body doesn't want to be optimized.

00:30:14.000 Your body wants to survive.

00:30:16.000 It's not designed to thrive.

00:30:17.000 So you have to challenge it to make adaptations.

00:30:19.000 And as long as that weight or those reps are going up, it's called progressive overload.

00:30:24.000 It doesn't have to be a lot.

00:30:25.000 It can be five pounds.

00:30:26.000 It can be one rep.

00:30:28.000 Logbook. Progress.

00:30:29.000 You will get stronger.

00:30:30.000 You will feel better.

00:30:31.000 And it's the basis of any type of health and wellness.

00:30:37.000 Is it the most effective thing for weight loss?

00:30:39.000 No. But it is foundational.

00:30:41.000 And I would also say, err on the side of keeping it super, super.

00:30:44.000 If you don't think, if you don't think that you will do 40 minutes, okay, 30. Exactly.

00:30:49.000 30 minutes, three times a week.

00:30:50.000 You know what?

00:30:52.000 20. You can get, in other words, you could go in and have, I'll do it right, super simple.

00:30:56.000 Workout A, bench press, three sets, deadlift, three sets.

00:31:01.000 That's it.

00:31:02.000 Leave. Be done.

00:31:03.000 Workout B. Overhead press, squats, boom, be done. 0.97

00:31:08.000 You're still going to hit everything.

00:31:08.000 Is it going to be ideal?

00:31:11.000 No, but it's going to be more than enough for you to maintain joint health, integrity, have some strength benefits, and have that progressive overload.

00:31:18.000 So if you really don't believe that you'll stick with it unless it's super, super, super short, then just do that.

00:31:25.000 Start with that, and then you can add to it.

00:31:26.000 Yeah, I 100% agree, and I was going to say that my story is very similar on lifting.

00:31:30.000 I have three kids right now.

00:31:32.000 Obviously, we do what we do here, and that takes a lot of I don't have an hour to go and work out most of the time.

00:31:43.000 Sometimes I do, but most of the time I just couldn't see myself doing that.

00:31:46.000 I used to do cycling, but that's a...

00:31:48.000 By the time you get there, do the thing, come back, it's...

00:31:52.000 Two and a half to three hours.

00:31:53.000 Right. I don't really have that kind of time, especially away from my kids on a Saturday.

00:31:56.000 I don't really want to be away. 0.92

00:31:57.000 Plus, it's gay. 0.98

00:32:00.000 You said a cycling session a minute ago, and now when I say it, it's gay. 1.00

00:32:03.000 Yeah, you burn calories. 0.99

00:32:04.000 You burn calories if you're banging a bunch of guys, too. 0.98

00:32:06.000 But it doesn't change the fact that it's gay. 0.99

00:32:08.000 It's still gay. 1.00

00:32:09.000 But I was able to commit to doing bench, squat, and rows.

00:32:14.000 Those three things.

00:32:15.000 I was like, alright, with the injuries that I've had, bench, squat, rows, and I'm just going to start super light.

00:32:19.000 I even made fun of myself because I was benching what I was squatting to start out with.

00:32:23.000 Well, it's more because you lacked self-confidence because of your knees and stuff.

00:32:27.000 You were stronger than you had.

00:32:28.000 You had more strength than you had faith in your ability.

00:32:31.000 Yeah, I was very much concerned that I would be injured, but I thought, okay, I'll take that into account because I probably won't continue if I do hurt myself.

00:32:37.000 So I'm going to start out really low and just kind of be consistent.

00:32:40.000 It takes me between 30 and 45 minutes to do that.

00:32:43.000 If I want to take a little more time, I can.

00:32:45.000 But now that I've done it, there are days where I look at Tim and I'm like, are you lifting?

00:32:49.000 And he's like, yeah.

00:32:50.000 And I'm like, I really don't want to.

00:32:51.000 But I'll do it.

00:32:52.000 That's why I do it in the morning before the show.

00:32:54.000 Because I know myself well enough to know that after doing the show, I'm so tired that I won't be able to.

00:33:01.000 And also, at that point, it's too big of a variable where I could be...

00:33:05.000 30% weaker this day just because our show went late and it was exhausting and there was something wrong, so I gotta get it done in the morning.

00:33:11.000 And mine's largely focused around conserving energy.

00:33:13.000 It's like, what can I do without spending myself?

00:33:16.000 And I want a period of about a year and a half where, at least a year, where I was training twice a week about...

00:33:22.000 On average, 22 minutes and no more.

00:33:24.000 And I said, what can I do to reduce this to the minimum effective dose?

00:33:27.000 And I was actually able to maintain mostly and still get stronger.

00:33:31.000 Not much, but I wasn't losing.

00:33:33.000 So there are ways, now that's not, there's a difference between optimal and minimal effective dose.

00:33:38.000 People need to start out practical first.

00:33:40.000 Especially in these situations where you're like, ah man, the motivation.

00:33:43.000 When that's what you're looking at, it's okay.

00:33:45.000 Bare bones it.

00:33:46.000 Just do only what you can commit to doing and just do it.

00:33:50.000 Don't think about it.

00:33:51.000 Don't try to come up with just do it and make sure that you do it for what is it they say you have to do something for 28 days or 21 days to make it a habit whatever the heck it is it could be different for you just do it and when you start seeing those results like you're getting somewhat stronger that's that motivation kind of kicks in there for me when I start to see some result now I'm getting to the point where Tim's just heckling me,

00:34:13.000 and that's basically what's making me add weight.

00:34:15.000 Good for you.

00:34:16.000 We have to maintain the standards of abusive working iron.

00:34:19.000 No, he went up in squat.

00:34:21.000 He used to stop at 315, and now he hit 365 yesterday.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, Gerald's stronger than his confidence level.

00:34:27.000 He's just, you know...

00:34:28.000 Which is fine.

00:34:29.000 Also, as a tall guy, too, you know, it's going to be tougher.

00:34:31.000 I mean, compared to you, no offense, but compared to you, it's like a hydraulic press.

00:34:36.000 He's going all the way up and down, and you're just like...

00:34:38.000 Yeah. It's not the same thing.

00:34:40.000 It's much of a travel, yeah.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, but...

00:34:43.000 And, you know, I will say this, though, too, is like, you know, I hate the barrier to entry thing.

00:34:49.000 And look, I'm no world beater at all.

00:34:51.000 I stay within striking distance of being in shape.

00:34:54.000 Sometimes I'm fatter, sometimes I'm stronger, sometimes it depends.

00:34:56.000 But yet, people like Arnold were like, I train two times a day, two hours each session.

00:35:01.000 BS, he didn't.

00:35:02.000 And he was loaded with steroids.

00:35:05.000 As a matter of fact, the only reason for Arnold, not the only, but the primary reason for Arnold's success is that he was willing to experiment with new designer steroids that people were scared to take because they didn't know the long-term health effects at that point in time.

00:35:17.000 And then, same thing, I won't mention this name because it's someone who is in the conservative space and has been on the show.

00:35:23.000 But I remember at the...

00:35:24.000 It was at a firearm conference, and he was telling people, he goes, look, I practice, you know, being in the military, I practice with my firearm six days a week, two hours, and if you're not doing that minimum, you might as well not have it.

00:35:35.000 And I said, are you out of your mind?

00:35:37.000 No one is going to do that.

00:35:39.000 You want to tell the old lady here, or let's say a middle-aged lady who's working and has kids that she needs two hours a day, six days a week? 1.00

00:35:48.000 You know what?

00:35:48.000 I would say she's better off, provided the firearm is safely stored.

00:35:52.000 Stopbox.com slash Crowder.

00:35:53.000 You can go there.

00:35:55.000 If she has a revolver and she puts it in there in her nightstand, she's still better off having it if she only goes to the range once a month than not.

00:36:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:36:01.000 I don't agree with you.

00:36:02.000 Just like you have these people now who are fitness influencers and you need to get 12 sets per body part per...

00:36:08.000 Okay, Dorian Yates, the biggest man you've ever seen in your life.

00:36:12.000 Now, was he on steroids?

00:36:13.000 Sure. He trained four days a week, 40 minutes.

00:36:17.000 That was it.

00:36:18.000 Could he have done it better?

00:36:20.000 Maybe. But it was good enough to be the biggest man on earth.

00:36:24.000 They called him the shadow.

00:36:25.000 Okay? So my point is, and people get so nerdy about this.

00:36:29.000 Like, we know what is required.

00:36:31.000 If you train two times a week or three times a week, you're consistent.

00:36:34.000 Progressive overload.

00:36:35.000 It's about proximity to failure.

00:36:36.000 Progressive overload.

00:36:37.000 Count your calories.

00:36:37.000 You will get stronger.

00:36:39.000 You will feel better.

00:36:40.000 With MS, I would say, be mindful of your recovery.

00:36:43.000 Don't... Push it too far because you actually do have a condition where, you know, your recovery may be impeded.

00:36:49.000 But it sounds to me like, honestly, I don't know you, but I'm proud of you.

00:36:53.000 Losing weight when having been diagnosed with MS, that is not easy.

00:36:56.000 A lot of people would just give up and throw themselves a pity party.

00:37:00.000 So you may not have the motivation, you may not want to do it, but you can do it because you've already done something that most people would instead make excuses for.

00:37:08.000 So good for you.

00:37:09.000 And I mean that.

00:37:09.000 Good for you.

00:37:10.000 Just keep doing it.

00:37:11.000 One final thing is, and this is, Trust me, this is not self-serving.

00:37:16.000 The Jacked Up Fitness thing, if you can remove the time barrier, I've got to get up.

00:37:22.000 I've got to go to the gym.

00:37:23.000 I've got to work out in front of other people.

00:37:25.000 I may not be doing things correctly.

00:37:26.000 If you can simplify everything and have something in your home to be able to work out on, Jacked Up Fitness, those things are fantastic.

00:37:34.000 They can do everything that you're going to need to do.

00:37:37.000 For me, because we have a gym here, it makes it so simple.

00:37:41.000 I literally just have my stuff.

00:37:43.000 Two minutes later, I'm beginning my workout.

00:37:45.000 That makes it really, really easy to commit to.

00:37:47.000 And I will say this, too.

00:37:48.000 Their least expensive option, like the power rack, so if you don't have a lot of money, that still is a great deal with a lifetime warranty, 10, 12-gauge steel, and it still comes with a pulley that's plate-loaded.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:37:58.000 Which is great.

00:37:59.000 We used it.

00:38:00.000 So you can still use it for...

00:38:01.000 You can still do most things that you could do in a gym with that.

00:38:03.000 It's just not stack-loaded.

00:38:04.000 If you do have the money, and convenience is most important...

00:38:08.000 That evolution fits into a corner.

00:38:10.000 Everything opens toward the front, so it's specifically made for small spaces.

00:38:14.000 You really do have everything you need where you would never need anything else, and their customer service is second to none.

00:38:19.000 And I knew about them before they became a sponsor.

00:38:21.000 So is it JackedUp?

00:38:22.000 They're not a sponsor.

00:38:23.000 JackedUpFitness.com slash...

00:38:24.000 It's usually slash Crowder.

00:38:26.000 Usually slash Crowder.

00:38:27.000 Use the promo code Crowder.

00:38:28.000 Just whatever.

00:38:29.000 Send them an email if you go.

00:38:30.000 But their baseline power rack is great.

00:38:33.000 And then the Evolution for Home.

00:38:35.000 And, hey, if you want the Cadillac, you get the Pro, and that has everything.

00:38:37.000 But, you know, most people don't need that in their home if you're just getting started.

00:38:41.000 All right.

00:38:42.000 Next one.

00:38:44.000 Namaste, Guru, Crowder, and Co, meaning company.

00:38:47.000 Thank you very much.

00:38:48.000 Now I'm Co?

00:38:50.000 Whenever I see Coe, it makes me think of Duluth Trader and Coe.

00:38:53.000 And I know that Coe is short for company, but for some reason I always get a snapshot of something in my mind that just makes me think, is it company or corporate?

00:39:00.000 No. I think it's company.

00:39:01.000 This means company.

00:39:02.000 Could it be corporation as well?

00:39:03.000 Could it be corporation?

00:39:04.000 I don't know.

00:39:04.000 A different abbreviation?

00:39:05.000 Apparently they have decent underwear.

00:39:06.000 C-O-R-P. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Duluth Trading, my brother.

00:39:08.000 Corp. Shut up with your four letters instead of two. 0.99

00:39:11.000 We're going to replace you with a sexy chatbot. 1.00

00:39:15.000 Understandable. No, no, no, no, no.

00:39:17.000 We just go to the chatbot and it's like mid-sentence.

00:39:20.000 We're like, ooh, can't do that.

00:39:20.000 No, no.

00:39:21.000 Noodles is irreplaceable.

00:39:22.000 Have you felt his hands like velvet?

00:39:25.000 So, this says the TL semicolon DR of this is.

00:39:30.000 What does that mean?

00:39:31.000 I've seen that a lot.

00:39:32.000 Timeline, what does DR mean?

00:39:33.000 It's too long, didn't read.

00:39:35.000 Oh, didn't read.

00:39:37.000 It means I don't have time for this.

00:39:39.000 I thought it was like timeline didn't read, like timeline was too long.

00:39:42.000 All right, okay, well, you can admonish me.

00:39:44.000 Admonish me. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Admonish me like the dirty chatbot you are. 0.99

00:39:50.000 Admonish. Oh, come on! 0.99

00:39:51.000 Aura, you're too cruel to me.

00:39:53.000 Okay. You didn't know either.

00:39:55.000 The too-long-didn-read-of-this-is, and they proceed to write two pages.

00:40:02.000 And this is the whittled-down version.

00:40:04.000 It was seven.

00:40:05.000 I had a baby with a congenital heart defect.

00:40:07.000 I'm very sorry.

00:40:08.000 My in-laws and multiple medical professionals tried to get me to abort her. 1.00

00:40:12.000 Screw them.

00:40:12.000 I said no, and although I know it was the right thing to do, I'm having a hard time forgiving them, but also myself, because I feel like the heart defect is all my fault.

00:40:21.000 After miscarriage at eight weeks in 2022, I got pregnant again at 34 in the fall of 2023.

00:40:25.000 Early on, we found out there was a problem via ultrasound.

00:40:27.000 We were given potential diagnosis of hydrops, fatalis, Turner syndrome, and cystic hygroma?

00:40:35.000 Hygroma? Hygroma?

00:40:37.000 I'm not familiar with this.

00:40:39.000 But the ultimately correct diagnosis was tricuspid atresia.

00:40:45.000 This is a type of heart defect where she functionally has only one ventricle, basically half a heart.

00:40:49.000 The surgeries are not curative and are only palliative, but there is a decent chance she will live a normal lifespan.

00:40:54.000 That's great.

00:40:55.000 I have asthma.

00:40:56.000 I was prescribed Symbicort by my pulmonologist, and she straight up told me that it would be safe to use occasionally during pregnancy.

00:41:02.000 I even looked up if there were concerns when using Symbicort during pregnancy, and there were none.

00:41:07.000 I used it once when an early blizzard ticked off my asthma and I couldn't get it to calm down any other way.

00:41:12.000 This is my greatest regret.

00:41:14.000 Simbacord is two drugs.

00:41:15.000 If you look up the two individual drugs contained in the inhaler, Formotorol is specifically associated with congenital heart defects at less than the maximum effective dose.

00:41:24.000 Okay, before I continue, look.

00:41:27.000 I am not familiar with all these drugs and I'm not familiar with all of these conditions and I'm not familiar with your doctors.

00:41:32.000 Okay? This is not your fault.

00:41:35.000 Yeah. All right?

00:41:36.000 To be clear, you were told by the people who you trust, who should have this information, that it was safe.

00:41:44.000 You double-checked to verify that it was safe.

00:41:48.000 You used it once.

00:41:48.000 By the way, it doesn't matter if you used it once.

00:41:50.000 You would have been well within your rights to use it often if you were told that it was safe and found out later that perhaps, I don't know, you were lied to by the pharmaceutical companies who, oh, on a technicality, this combined drug hasn't been studied, right, in pregnancy, but the individual ones may be a problem.

00:42:05.000 I'm very sorry this has happened, but you really can't blame yourself for this.

00:42:12.000 I'm actually not advocating this, but there actually could be liability lawsuits if you were actually advised this from a doctor.

00:42:20.000 That's why those exist.

00:42:22.000 I'm not saying that you should, and I get it.

00:42:24.000 There's all kinds of frivolous lawsuits out there, but I wouldn't.

00:42:27.000 In my opinion, it's not your fault.

00:42:28.000 You have nothing to feel guilty about.

00:42:30.000 And I know that's easy for me to say because I don't have to live with the condition that your child has, but it seems like they could live a long, full life.

00:42:37.000 And the good news is, with medical advancements, I mean, it's only going to get more effective in treating this kind of condition, I would imagine.

00:42:45.000 Okay. During my pregnancy...

00:42:49.000 I was shuffled between a regular OBGYN, a maternal fetal medicine specialist, a genetics counselor, and a pediatric cardiologist.

00:42:54.000 At different points, everyone but the pediatric cardiologist offered recommended I get an abortion for which they would have to refer me out since they all worked at different Catholic hospitals.

00:43:02.000 I live in a state where no questions asked.

00:43:04.000 Abortion, time out at 24 weeks.

00:43:06.000 After that point, you need a medical reason to do so.

00:43:08.000 After saying no multiple times, the maternal fetal medicine doctor pushed for me to get an amniocentesis because of the heart and the fact that she was a little behind in growth. 0.89

00:43:18.000 Amniose post their own risks, including but not limited to hemorrhage, preterm labor, infection, miscarriage, maternal death, and fetal abnormality.

00:43:25.000 My daughter had enough problems, so once again, I said no.

00:43:28.000 My in-laws then drove in from another state four hours away to try to persuade me to change my mind about getting an abortion or at the very least getting an amniocentesis. 0.89

00:43:35.000 At this point, I was 22 weeks pregnant.

00:43:36.000 I stood firm about not aborting her, but I did make an appointment for the test.

00:43:39.000 I ended up canceling it a few hours later, and I'm incredibly grateful I did.

00:43:42.000 After being put through the ringer of a million more doctor's appointments and tests, I gave birth to an otherwise healthy baby girl.

00:43:48.000 She did four days in the NICU for observation, never even needed oxygen, and she had her first open-heart surgery in October.

00:43:54.000 She's eight months old now, and if you didn't know about her heart condition, you would never know anything. 0.69

00:43:58.000 Well, screw those people with a wire brush. 0.92

00:44:02.000 How about that? 0.99

00:44:04.000 Okay? There's a lot of blame to go around.

00:44:07.000 You're not one of them in this case.

00:44:10.000 When they say your body, your choice, and the doctor's going, you want an abortion? 0.98

00:44:13.000 You sure you want an abortion?

00:44:14.000 You sure you don't want an abortion? 0.96

00:44:15.000 I mean, you'd be well, in my opinion, I don't know if legally, well within your right to bitch slap said doctors at any point during this personal journey. 0.99

00:44:24.000 I would...

00:44:25.000 Fully support it. 0.87

00:44:26.000 And I hit a nurse.

00:44:28.000 I feel awkward.

00:44:29.000 True. And short-tempered anytime my husband's parents are around us, I understand, asking me to take their picture with their beautiful granddaughter and wanting me to pump so they can feed her.

00:44:37.000 I just can't get everything out of my head. 0.90

00:44:39.000 These people wanted me to kill her on top of that. 0.51

00:44:41.000 I feel like my baby's life sentence is all my fault because I didn't quite do enough due diligence. 0.78

00:44:45.000 Stop blaming yourself.

00:44:46.000 It's not your fault.

00:44:47.000 You have a baby that is largely healthy.

00:44:49.000 And you know what?

00:44:49.000 If you beat yourself up over it, you're not going to be folk.

00:44:52.000 Focusing on taking care of that baby.

00:44:54.000 It's wasted energy.

00:44:56.000 I've quoted this from my favorite film, The Edge.

00:44:57.000 You know why most people die in the woods?

00:44:59.000 They die of shame.

00:45:01.000 They spend all their time thinking about what they could have, should have done, and so they die rather than do the one thing that would have saved their life.

00:45:08.000 Thinking. In this case, thinking about your beautiful child.

00:45:12.000 So I guess the option is, what would you do if you were me?

00:45:14.000 How do I move forward?

00:45:16.000 Okay, that was very long.

00:45:17.000 That was not short.

00:45:17.000 Next time, I need highlights because...

00:45:20.000 I don't want to shortchange it, but we also have only so much time.

00:45:24.000 There are a few different ways you could move forward.

00:45:28.000 Again, first off, this is not your fault.

00:45:30.000 I would advise that you move on and take care of your child and do the best job you can.

00:45:34.000 It sounds like you will.

00:45:35.000 Second sort of item in order, I guess a tube sock. 0.99

00:45:42.000 You take a tube sock, fill it with quarters, and hit your in-laws in the face.

00:45:46.000 With a rolled up tube socket roll of quarters.

00:45:49.000 You ever see Death Wish with Charles Bronson?

00:45:51.000 Don't do that.

00:45:52.000 You wanted me to abort my baby. 0.63

00:45:53.000 Clank! That's what I recommend.

00:45:57.000 No, I understand it. 1.00

00:45:58.000 Look, they're probably stupid. 1.00

00:45:59.000 They're probably like, and what I mean by that is ignorant liberals who don't think it's a life and they thought they were doing the humane thing. 1.00

00:46:06.000 And so... 0.73

00:46:08.000 In their mind, it's two different things.

00:46:09.000 It's, oh, it was a fetus, it wasn't a human being, and now it's a human being.

00:46:12.000 And they love the human being, they didn't care about the fetus.

00:46:14.000 That's how they justify their evil actions, the left.

00:46:17.000 Never mind the fact that it's the same DNA.

00:46:19.000 Never mind the fact that it's the same child that was just a smaller version of it, just like your child who's five now was four and was three and was two.

00:46:26.000 And if you want to talk about the physical location, okay, it was in the womb, all right, fine, but it was in the womb up until two hours before it came out.

00:46:32.000 So none of their arguments hold water, but in their head...

00:46:34.000 They detach themselves from the reality that it is the same child, toddler, infant, baby that just happened to be in that birth canal a couple hours later.

00:46:44.000 So they don't see it that way.

00:46:46.000 And you have to ask yourself if there's forgiveness in your heart outside of that.

00:46:51.000 How are they?

00:46:52.000 Are they decent people?

00:46:53.000 Do you think that they'll do anything to harm your child?

00:46:55.000 Because it's important for a child to have a strong family.

00:46:59.000 Especially if they love their grandparents.

00:47:01.000 And so I wouldn't put yourself in the middle of it if they love their grandparents because then you're going to be the villain. 1.00

00:47:06.000 A lot of people are ignorant. 0.88

00:47:08.000 As it relates to abortion, there are a lot of people who learn later on. 0.99

00:47:12.000 And there are just as many people who just go, I can't hear you.

00:47:17.000 And that's usually what they do because the more we discover, the more we learn about science and honestly the way medical...

00:47:25.000 Advancements have been trending.

00:47:26.000 You're going to see babies born earlier and earlier.

00:47:28.000 So they just have to shut themselves off and say something, something, my body, my right, my choice.

00:47:33.000 So if that's the only sin that they've committed, it could be out of ignorance and I wouldn't hold it against them for the rest of your life.

00:47:39.000 Right. Because those children or this child, maybe you have other children.

00:47:45.000 If they love their grandparents, you don't want to be the one stopping them from having a relationship with their grandparents, provided they're not doing something actively corrosive to that child.

00:47:52.000 Right. I agree.

00:47:54.000 I mean, I would say that you can combine ignorance with being scared, right?

00:47:58.000 They were probably pretty scared to hear that kind of news.

00:48:00.000 Probably saddened to hear that kind of news as well.

00:48:02.000 Sure they were.

00:48:03.000 Combine that with some ignorance on abortion, and all of a sudden they're like, they don't want that for you, they don't want that for this child.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, but the alternative's kind of worse.

00:48:09.000 They didn't really connect those dots, right? 0.99

00:48:11.000 The alternatives would just give up and kill the child.

00:48:13.000 So I think 100% you have to try to find forgiveness in your heart because when we told you a minute ago to focus on the child and not some of the mistakes you've made, you also need to have the opportunity for them to be able to focus.

00:48:24.000 And by the way, these are perceived mistakes you've made.

00:48:26.000 I agree with Stephen.

00:48:27.000 I don't think you made a mistake.

00:48:28.000 You trusted the experts that told you what you could and couldn't do.

00:48:31.000 But they've also made a mistake.

00:48:33.000 And now they have a beautiful grandchild.

00:48:35.000 And they want to enjoy that, it seems like, from what you've said.

00:48:38.000 I would do everything in my power to forgive them.

00:48:44.000 Put all of the blame from all the other doctors and other people who told you to do stuff on them as well.

00:48:50.000 Don't put all of them in that same category.

00:48:52.000 Because if they're wonderful people otherwise and they're great grandparents, that is a very special relationship.

00:48:59.000 You want to foster that.

00:49:02.000 You want to have that be nurtured.

00:49:03.000 You don't want to be, just for your own personal benefit, you don't want to hold this animosity or any kind of grudge against them for a mistake that they made.

00:49:13.000 And I don't even know.

00:49:14.000 I would seek some conversation about it and say, hey, do you feel differently now that this has happened?

00:49:18.000 Would you do anything differently back then if you feel like you really need to?

00:49:21.000 But even if they don't, it just hurts you to be angry with them and to constantly mull it over in your head.

00:49:27.000 So I just don't think it's a very beneficial thing, especially if it's an isolated incident and there's not a bunch of other issues that you've had as well.

00:49:37.000 In today's age, I think all of us in the room, if something like this is going on, we're doing everything we can and we're fighting for that baby.

00:49:45.000 My wife and I have had conversations, if it comes down to me, it's the baby.

00:49:48.000 Those kinds of things where we're willing to make those kinds of sacrifices.

00:49:52.000 But that's not the population at large, typically.

00:49:55.000 There's different levels to this.

00:49:57.000 For you to make that stand against doctors, which can be very intimidating, and also make you feel like you're taking crazy pills, like, I'm just going to do what I want to do.

00:50:05.000 Good for you.

00:50:06.000 That's a lot more than just about everybody else in the kind of the general population would have done because there were a lot of easier routes to take.

00:50:14.000 Yep. And you chose life and sometimes that's a hard route.

00:50:17.000 And I know I just pronounced root and route.

00:50:19.000 That's okay.

00:50:20.000 That's fine.

00:50:20.000 In two different sentences.

00:50:21.000 No, I would say it's always worth fighting for the baby unless it's Rosemary's.

00:50:24.000 Not, yeah, it's true.

00:50:26.000 It was a very messed up film by the way.

00:50:27.000 Very messed up.

00:50:28.000 Like, the way it was sold to me was like, ah, it's kind of scary.

00:50:31.000 Like, ah, there's weird neighbors.

00:50:32.000 And then I get to know, I'm like, wait, is this?

00:50:34.000 What's happening? 0.69

00:50:35.000 There's like a Sesame Street Muppet and it's a rape? 1.00

00:50:38.000 What? This is the film everyone talks about?

00:50:40.000 Ah, I can't believe this is part of our cultural lexicon.

00:50:43.000 But it is.

00:50:44.000 Anyway. Nonetheless.

00:50:45.000 Also, just to give you an idea, when I had knee surgery, I had, so I had a great doctor and then they sent me home without pain pills in the middle of a snowstorm, by the way.

00:50:53.000 That's because I paid them too.

00:50:54.000 I'm so sorry.

00:50:55.000 I got home.

00:50:56.000 They go, so take this every, whatever, four hours, six hours.

00:50:59.000 I was like, take what?

00:50:59.000 They go, uh, the pain.

00:51:00.000 I go, I don't have any.

00:51:01.000 They go, oh.

00:51:03.000 Well, we can't write it to a pharmacy.

00:51:05.000 You have to come back, and it's 45 minutes away.

00:51:07.000 Anyway, but they told me, they said, don't move for two weeks.

00:51:12.000 Don't move your, like, keep your leg rested.

00:51:14.000 And then when I spoke to the doctor two weeks later, he was like, so how has it been doing?

00:51:17.000 I go, what do you mean?

00:51:18.000 He goes, well, how's the mobility?

00:51:19.000 I said, well, I was told not to move.

00:51:20.000 He's like, what?

00:51:21.000 I would have had you on the Airdyne bike like...

00:51:23.000 The next day.

00:51:24.000 I said, well, you could have told me.

00:51:25.000 He's like, who told you that?

00:51:26.000 And I think they got fired.

00:51:27.000 So you trust them.

00:51:28.000 They were very adamant.

00:51:29.000 Do not, no knee flexion, they said.

00:51:32.000 And so you get doctors.

00:51:33.000 Sometimes they just disagree with each other.

00:51:36.000 Sometimes they have a different approach. 1.00

00:51:37.000 And sometimes they just suck. 0.98

00:51:38.000 Seems to me like you did your due diligence.

00:51:40.000 And yeah, it's important to do that.

00:51:42.000 But anyone can get caught flat-footed.

00:51:44.000 I mean, look, for proof, see the entire nation with ivermectin.

00:51:48.000 And the mRNA injection, right?

00:51:50.000 You had a bunch of people going, oh, horse-paced, because they couldn't be bothered to do their own research.

00:51:53.000 You had doctors out there saying it, and people saying, oh, the mRNA is a vaccine, which it's not, right?

00:51:58.000 The entire nation got tricked because they trusted authority.

00:52:01.000 You didn't.

00:52:01.000 You questioned it in a way that seems pretty reasonable, and you still got caught.

00:52:05.000 It does happen.

00:52:06.000 It happens to me every day.

00:52:07.000 That's why I have an admonish button.

00:52:08.000 All right, final one.

00:52:08.000 Okay, final one here.

00:52:10.000 I believe it's a final one.

00:52:11.000 No, no, I read it.

00:52:12.000 Oh, that's right.

00:52:13.000 You read this.

00:52:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:52:16.000 Hold on a second.

00:52:17.000 No, I thought I said Guru Morgan, but go ahead.

00:52:23.000 I love and hate you at the exact same time.

00:52:28.000 Mutual, I'm sure.

00:52:30.000 I want to start off saying how much I love watching the show, mostly Gerald, and appreciate everything y'all do.

00:52:35.000 I'm sorry, I added that last part.

00:52:36.000 It's okay, we knew.

00:52:37.000 I am 25 and I've been married to my husband for almost five years, together for 10. He is six years older than me.

00:52:45.000 We met at church as children.

00:52:46.000 Growing up in the church, we started out on the same page.

00:52:48.000 We both wanted to get married, have children.

00:52:50.000 and raise them in the church as well.

00:52:51.000 Okay, sounds good.

00:52:52.000 However, my husband was told at 19 that he had a heart defect and needed to have surgery.

00:52:58.000 Ooh. That's no good.

00:53:05.000 For the last year or so, I have been hinting and straight up asking him to think about starting a family, but he told me that he cannot think about having kids right now because he will probably have to have open heart surgery in 10 years and may not make it through.

00:53:17.000 He says that he cannot wrap his head around potentially leaving a child fatherless that early in life and he feels that it would be selfish to start.

00:53:23.000 In 10 years, he will be 40. But that is obviously still too young in my mind to leave this world.

00:53:28.000 He is upset that he will likely make me a widow soon in life, but I don't know how to get him to understand that God has it and everything will be okay regardless.

00:53:36.000 I want children.

00:53:36.000 I've always wanted to be a mother, and he knows this.

00:53:38.000 I feel like we are moving in two different directions, but I also feel as though I cannot blame him.

00:53:43.000 What do I do?

00:53:44.000 I will be grateful for any advice from you or the team.

00:53:46.000 Have for me.

00:53:47.000 I have been struggling with this for a while now and feel unmoored.

00:53:51.000 Thank you so much.

00:53:52.000 If I can take this one just right off the bat, first off, I appreciate, and this is well written, I appreciate the letter.

00:54:00.000 Look, this is one of those scenarios where the left, they think they have a corner on empathy, and so they use it as an answer for everything.

00:54:06.000 It's not.

00:54:07.000 Sometimes it clouds judgment.

00:54:08.000 In this case, though, this is someone you love who I bet you is genuinely scared.

00:54:15.000 Because if this is his reasoning, it's not, oh, how could you bring children into the world when, you know, global warming?

00:54:21.000 This is a guy, I don't know the details, but if he's facing his very mortality, seems like this is a reason that he's, however warped you may think it is, it's a selfless reasoning.

00:54:33.000 Where he's going, I don't want to bring a child into the world when I don't know if I'm even, like, I don't want to create a fatherless household for a child.

00:54:42.000 Now, it doesn't mean that it still can't be hashed out, but I would say, please do approach this with some empathy and understanding because it sounds like a guy who's scared and a guy who's trying to do the right thing.

00:54:53.000 And by the way, maybe there isn't necessarily a definitive right or wrong answer.

00:54:58.000 Like, I could see the argument being made here as far as...

00:55:02.000 If I have a 50-50 shot of living, it would be irresponsible for me to bring a child in who I know won't have a father.

00:55:08.000 And I can also see the reasoning behind, hey, you know, I have to have faith and step out in faith, and this is important to you, so it's better to leave you with a piece of me and let's pray for the best.

00:55:20.000 I don't think that either are finding themselves in a pit of moral abyss.

00:55:26.000 I honestly can understand both sides.

00:55:29.000 But what I do know is this is a guy who's probably pretty scared, probably pretty rattled.

00:55:32.000 If he's telling you the truth and he's been living with something a little worse than he's let on, that's not atypical of men.

00:55:39.000 As much as women go, oh, men have a cold and women are tough. 1.00

00:55:43.000 It's like a guy just wants to be taken care of because he wants you to show that you love him, okay?

00:55:46.000 We've built nations and gone out to war.

00:55:48.000 You don't think anyone had colds in World War I trenches?

00:55:52.000 But he's probably living with a lot of fear and chewing on it.

00:55:59.000 It seems like you love him, that he knows you love him.

00:56:03.000 Maybe explain to him, this is really important to you, again, assuming you're not being selfish, that, hey, you'll cross that bridge when you get there and you still would rather have a piece of him and a child together because he's the love of your life than not.

00:56:19.000 that even in the face of the worst possible scenario, you'd still rather have that and that you will take care of that because a man feels like it's his responsibility, again, to protect and provide.

00:56:29.000 And he doesn't know if he's physically going to be there

00:56:32.000 Yeah, and I think that's right.

00:56:40.000 I mean, it does seem like you need to approach this very delicately because this is a tough situation.

00:56:44.000 I mean, he can...

00:56:46.000 I think his logic is understandable, but I also would encourage him, like, hey, look...

00:56:53.000 Tomorrow is never guaranteed for any of us.

00:56:56.000 In your case, it's really not guaranteed.

00:56:58.000 Stop it with the hike!

00:57:00.000 You're like an inch shorter than me, maybe.

00:57:04.000 So tomorrow's really never guaranteed.

00:57:06.000 And as a husband and a father, you think about leaving people.

00:57:11.000 If something, God forbid, the worst thing happened, and you've got kids and you hear stories about this, it definitely happens in life where things happen.

00:57:18.000 You could be Ukrainian and grow up in a place where you lose people instantly to a war or something like that.

00:57:24.000 You could be in a car accident.

00:57:24.000 There's a lot of very difficult life situations that can come at you, and I would not let this one be the thing that stops you from...

00:57:31.000 Having children and building a family because for two reasons.

00:57:34.000 One, you could be fine.

00:57:35.000 You could have some difficult surgeries to have to go through, but you could be fine and make it through those.

00:57:39.000 Two, you could end up dying at 10 years if that's something that you feel like, you know, that's the prognosis that the doctor said you may not make it through the surgery and there's a high likelihood of that.

00:57:49.000 But you'll have 10 years of being able to sow into somebody who is going to bring you an immense amount of joy and happiness during those 10 years.

00:57:58.000 Or you can live for 10 years just waiting and counting the days.

00:58:00.000 And not living life, essentially.

00:58:02.000 So it's almost like it could potentially be a giving up on life moment for him in some ways.

00:58:09.000 Now, it may not manifest in every single way.

00:58:10.000 I mean, still get up, go to work, do things, go to ballgames, whatever you do for fun.

00:58:15.000 But I think life is going to be a lot better taking the risk.

00:58:19.000 And I think if you approach it the way Steven said, where you have a lot of empathy and understanding and you're not telling him like, you have to do this for me, but it's like, hey, I think we should just continue to live life as though we're going to be around because that's really what you kind of have to do every single day anyway.

00:58:33.000 Yeah. You really don't know.

00:58:35.000 Now you have something that's a little bit more.

00:58:36.000 I agree with everything you're saying.

00:58:51.000 I would just say...

00:58:53.000 Beyond, you know, how you will enjoy your life.

00:58:56.000 You know, I think that this man maybe, maybe looking at this selflessly, thinking, okay, but what about the child?

00:59:00.000 You know, let's say we have a kid in two years, you know, at six years old, loses his dad.

00:59:04.000 And I understand that, too.

00:59:05.000 I will say this.

00:59:06.000 What you can do, I think, would go a long way, is he also probably is concerned about being very tired.

00:59:12.000 He's also probably very concerned about not just death, but complications, right?

00:59:15.000 Where what if he's an invalid? 0.99

00:59:16.000 What if he doesn't have the energy because, you know, he's not pumping blood the way that he should?

00:59:22.000 You can quell some of that by letting them know.

00:59:24.000 I will tell you how long of a way it goes for a woman to tell a man, because most men never experience this, and when you do, it's shocking.

00:59:32.000 You tell them, like, hey, just so you know, I'm going to be okay, and I've got this.

00:59:36.000 I'm going to take care of this, and whatever happens to you, I can take care of this.

00:59:39.000 I'm a big girl, and I'm here.

00:59:40.000 It's what I sign on for, taking care of you and taking care of this child.

00:59:44.000 And I'm going to make sure that if something happens, and I don't think it will, and we'll pray about it, that this boy or girl is going to know who they're, I will make sure of that.

00:59:55.000 So don't worry about that.

00:59:57.000 Don't worry about it.

00:59:57.000 We'll be there if you have to go through it in the hospital.

01:00:00.000 You know, men often feel like they always have to be that protector and provider.

01:00:04.000 And the truth is, no one is that at all moments in time.

01:00:07.000 This goes back to what we talked about, this idea of duty.

01:00:10.000 This man may be mixed up inside, but I see this stemming from a man who feels an obligation, a sense of duty that, well, it would be irresponsible for me to bring a child in the world and leave him fatherless because he doesn't want to set a Child up for failure.

01:00:23.000 And I know that you love this man, and I also think there's a strong argument to be made, like Gerald said, but you might be setting this up right now in a dynamic of him on the side of duty, and you on the side of emotion, what you feel and what you've always wanted.

01:00:37.000 Where if you approach it that way, he may be like, yeah, but you're being selfish.

01:00:41.000 Because what about that kid not having a debt?

01:00:42.000 So don't do that.

01:00:43.000 Make sure you come at it from a place of understanding and empathy, and hey, look, if you...

01:00:48.000 Make him feel confident.

01:00:50.000 And that means between now and then.

01:00:52.000 In other words, how confident is this guy going to be that his child is going to have a stable environment?

01:00:56.000 I don't know.

01:00:57.000 If that doesn't exist at home right now.

01:00:59.000 I'm not saying that's the case, but it's the case in a lot of scenarios where they don't want to add to that complicated situation.

01:01:06.000 Right? It's like Jordan Peterson says, make your bed.

01:01:08.000 Right? As a woman, if you're in the...

01:01:10.000 make dinner.

01:01:12.000 Does he feel like when he comes home that you're on top of things where you can also add another responsibility?

01:01:16.000 What if he's...

01:01:17.000 They're filleted open in a hospital bed.

01:01:21.000 If you do that, you approach it from understanding, love, and that he knows you've got this and that child will know who their father is.

01:01:27.000 You know what?

01:01:28.000 Hey, we've seen crazier things.

01:01:29.000 He might even make a more effective recovery.

01:01:32.000 We're going to send you off here to Tim Pool.

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Louder with Crowder - April 17, 2025

🔴TOUGH LOVE: Grok Got Sexual and Tried to Ruin My Marriage

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