Louder with Crowder - January 28, 2025


Trump's DeepSeek AI Warning Explained & His Quest to Eliminate Income Tax


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On this week's show, we discuss the departure of CNN's Jim Acosta, deep-seeker AI, and why the Chinese have out-innovated us before, but never in the way we thought they would.

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00:00:03.000 They don't understand.
00:00:33.000 Donald Trump isn't a means.
00:00:36.000 Because getting them to go back is as easy as it seems.
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00:01:02.000 We'll be right back.
00:01:31.000 Hmm.
00:01:39.000 Glad to be with you.
00:01:40.000 It's Tuesday, January 28th.
00:01:43.000 I don't know why I said that.
00:01:43.000 I never said that.
00:01:44.000 You don't need the date.
00:01:46.000 Wow.
00:01:47.000 Bring up the rundown.
00:01:48.000 A lot to get to.
00:01:49.000 Really looking forward to Jim Acosta retiring.
00:01:52.000 He's done.
00:01:53.000 Fired.
00:01:54.000 Time to close for him.
00:01:55.000 We've been building this one for a long time.
00:01:57.000 We're going to be talking about DeepSeek AI. I know it's one of those topics that can seem a little bit convoluted.
00:02:02.000 It's hard for people to understand because it's hyperly technical, but let me make it really clear.
00:02:08.000 The Chinese are telling the truth.
00:02:11.000 Then this would be the first time they have out-innovated the United States in the history of modern civilization. 0.74
00:02:16.000 And if they are lying, they've pulled the wool over the eyes of, again, Western civilization.
00:02:23.000 Then either way, you end up the choose-your-own-path and China bad.
00:02:27.000 Also, we're going to be discussing the abolishing of the federal income tax.
00:02:32.000 Seems like Donald Trump, well, he said it.
00:02:36.000 We don't know if there's an official proposal.
00:02:38.000 And again, the experts have been wrong.
00:02:41.000 They've told you, well, there's no way to do it.
00:02:42.000 By the way, myself, right off the bat, admonish me.
00:02:45.000 Admonish me.
00:02:46.000 Okay.
00:02:47.000 Because I have said in the past, I don't know that we could...
00:02:50.000 Admonish.
00:02:52.000 Well, we might need another admonish, too, in a minute.
00:02:54.000 I'll give you... 0.94
00:02:55.000 Don't be a pervert about it. 0.97
00:02:57.000 I don't...
00:02:58.000 You know, I've said in the past, I don't know that we can do it practically.
00:03:00.000 And I will tell you this, and you can comment below.
00:03:02.000 I'm not ashamed to say this.
00:03:04.000 Maybe a little bit.
00:03:06.000 President Trump has inspired me in some ways that I didn't expect, where I kind of think we could abolish the federal income tax.
00:03:15.000 And I'll get to that.
00:03:16.000 You guys comment below if you think so.
00:03:18.000 And because we'll be talking a lot about the Chinese they know dumb, at some point today, if you're watching on YouTube, you may see this. 1.00
00:03:27.000 We'll head on over to Rumble. 0.73
00:03:29.000 It's a live show weekdays, 10 a.m.
00:03:31.000 Eastern, even on... 0.85
00:03:33.000 Friday.
00:03:35.000 Let's get on with the strategy.
00:03:36.000 Captain Morgan, CEO. I have to admonish you really quickly.
00:03:39.000 The Chinese have out-innovated us before, just never in the AI. What are you going to say, fireworks? 1.00
00:03:45.000 No, the noodle.
00:03:47.000 The noodle.
00:03:48.000 Light the Brain gave me a note before I came in, and he's like, hey, make sure you say it's in AI, because they have done some things before.
00:03:54.000 I don't know what they are.
00:03:55.000 This is where you pull a Sam.
00:03:56.000 No, I don't.
00:03:57.000 We don't know.
00:03:58.000 This is where you pull a Sam.
00:03:59.000 Well, you're saying the Chinese have invented a lot. 1.00
00:04:01.000 Name what?
00:04:04.000 I do like that.
00:04:05.000 Lane, give me a list.
00:04:06.000 Street food.
00:04:08.000 There you go. 0.99
00:04:09.000 Boiled sewer rat in human excrement. 0.99
00:04:12.000 Tiny lanterns. 0.96
00:04:14.000 Tiny feet.
00:04:16.000 Tiny feet get me hard as bamboo shoot.
00:04:19.000 Solar is one of them.
00:04:20.000 Solar and self-driving cars, he said. 1.00
00:04:22.000 Shut up, your wife have big fat feet. 1.00
00:04:25.000 Not tiny like my wife. 1.00
00:04:27.000 Smallest foot in the land.
00:04:29.000 Belly walk.
00:04:31.000 She wore ten chicken.
00:04:33.000 Now, Josh Feierstein is here, of course, as well.
00:04:37.000 And let's go straight to this Detroit rapper.
00:04:41.000 And start going the other direction from China.
00:04:43.000 Detroit rapper.
00:04:44.000 I mean, the Chinese can't even get their, they can't wrap their head around. 1.00
00:04:47.000 They don't understand this.
00:04:48.000 What you are about to watch is upset.
00:04:51.000 And I believe suing, because this is an infraction, a violation of basic fundamental human rights.
00:04:57.000 The human right, you wonder in question, is the right, To lift, even if you can't be lifted.
00:05:05.000 The kicker part was when he started to talk about his tires.
00:05:09.000 You know, I feel like that was a slap in the face.
00:05:11.000 That was like my tires, you know, like.
00:05:14.000 The driver said his tires could not handle her weight.
00:05:18.000 Every big person you turn down because they can't fit in your car?
00:05:21.000 Yeah, because they need to order the Uber XL.
00:05:25.000 No, I don't ever have to order an Uber XL.
00:05:28.000 He apologized, canceled the line, and left her there.
00:05:31.000 She can't stand in front of them.
00:05:37.000 It's a full-size shirt actually.
00:05:42.000 She's crushed?
00:05:43.000 It really hurt my feelings.
00:05:45.000 It hurt his shocks.
00:05:47.000 I knew it was illegal and I knew that it was wrong.
00:05:50.000 Her attorneys, John Marco and Zach Runyon, say Woody is a protected characteristic in Michigan by law.
00:05:56.000 It would be no different than a driver pulling up and saying, you know, I don't want to have black people in my car or I don't want to have Christians in my car or Muslims in my car. 0.99
00:06:05.000 It's the same under the law. 0.96
00:06:06.000 People with wet hair.
00:06:07.000 The lawsuit is filed.
00:06:08.000 Since she posted the encounter on social media, other full-figured folks have reached out to me.
00:06:13.000 Full-figured folks.
00:06:15.000 I can fit in this car.
00:06:16.000 No, believe me.
00:06:18.000 I really want people to see, like, what we go through as busy people. 1.00
00:06:23.000 That's a huge bitch! 1.00
00:06:23.000 Well, first off, you're not going through anything. 1.00
00:06:27.000 Maybe over or under or side, Waddle.
00:06:30.000 And I know what you're saying.
00:06:32.000 Did you see that water fountain was an obstacle for her? 0.99
00:06:35.000 And by the way, for those of you who are concerned, don't worry.
00:06:38.000 Of course, she did find a ride home.
00:06:44.000 Free!
00:06:45.000 I'm starving!
00:06:47.000 Free DeMoss.
00:06:51.000 You're not supposed to eat DeMoss.
00:06:54.000 She's eaten a lot of DeMoss.
00:06:55.000 This is not the same as someone who is overweight trying to lose weight, to be clear.
00:07:00.000 I've never just made fun of someone for being fat once, just a stranger, I should say, of course, but you know, in my family.
00:07:07.000 Myself included.
00:07:08.000 I mean, I fancy myself in the mirror all the time.
00:07:10.000 But this is about someone who wants society to fundamentally reshift their perceptions because she's perfect. 0.91
00:07:18.000 She doesn't want to look inward, which I know probably would need a sigmoidoscope.
00:07:25.000 I wouldn't say perfect.
00:07:26.000 I think she's still trying to get to her goal weight. 0.99
00:07:28.000 Yeah.
00:07:29.000 She's 500 pounds. 1.00
00:07:31.000 Well...
00:07:32.000 I'm not making that up.
00:07:33.000 You can't get on my 600-pound life being 500 pounds.
00:07:35.000 Exactly.
00:07:36.000 You know what you are, DeMoss?
00:07:37.000 You're a quitter.
00:07:38.000 Yep.
00:07:40.000 Absolutely.
00:07:40.000 And for those who aren't necessarily familiar with this person, here's DeMoss rapping in a car.
00:07:46.000 The song No Love, which is no surprise.
00:07:50.000 Ah, fat. fat. 0.96
00:08:09.000 And perpetuating the racial stereotype. 0.85
00:08:11.000 Lovely.
00:08:13.000 Don't you love the shadowboxing?
00:08:15.000 Is T-Rex armed?
00:08:17.000 Yo, I'll throw my jack! 0.95
00:08:19.000 That's my jab, and that's my hook! 0.99
00:08:21.000 Up, I got up, I got left, right!
00:08:23.000 Ah!
00:08:25.000 You hear a squeaking sound?
00:08:29.000 Slayer of Honda Civics everywhere.
00:08:33.000 Her new rap name is Two Belts. 1.00
00:08:35.000 The entire Uber fleet is just going, HOLD! Hardest working heart.
00:08:41.000 You need Uber XL! XXL, baby!
00:08:45.000 Gosh, this is so bad.
00:08:47.000 And she's suing. 0.99
00:08:48.000 You need Uber bus. 0.66
00:08:49.000 You need Uber timeshare.
00:08:52.000 Uber helicopter whistling.
00:08:54.000 Look, look.
00:08:55.000 If this person loses weight, good for her.
00:08:57.000 The truth is, I hope that this person does.
00:09:00.000 Is it funny?
00:09:01.000 Yes.
00:09:01.000 I can only imagine the cost for those tattoos, considering the size of the canvas.
00:09:05.000 Now, it is...
00:09:06.000 We need somebody with an Olympic gun. 0.99
00:09:11.000 Shooter! 1.00
00:09:13.000 That's just like those clowns outside with the bubblegum guns. 0.99
00:09:19.000 I was thinking more like a tranquilizer, but it shoots those out. 0.95
00:09:21.000 Yeah, me too.
00:09:22.000 Shoots GLP one. 0.89
00:09:24.000 All right.
00:09:25.000 We've got a big one.
00:09:28.000 We have a lot to get to.
00:09:29.000 We're going to get into deep seek and the federal income tax.
00:09:33.000 We're going to do away with it.
00:09:34.000 But first, Jim Acosta.
00:09:36.000 And right now he is on CNN. Ah!
00:09:37.000 Ah!
00:09:40.000 Look at that!
00:09:40.000 Bring it up full screen.
00:09:41.000 When I do that, you bring it up full screen, guys.
00:09:42.000 Ah!
00:09:43.000 Ah, now they're in a small box.
00:09:45.000 Yeah.
00:09:45.000 That is a sitting congresswoman.
00:09:47.000 Yeah, I know.
00:09:48.000 I know.
00:09:50.000 More of a leering congresswoman. 0.98
00:09:52.000 More of a stooped...
00:09:54.000 Look, she sits there like an owl. 1.00
00:09:55.000 Like, how many licks to the center? 1.00
00:09:59.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:10:02.000 I'm a guardian of Cahool.
00:10:04.000 That's the oldest Hot Topic employee I've ever seen.
00:10:09.000 She looks like she works at a hot flash topic. 0.99
00:10:12.000 How do you feel about Helena Bonham Carter?
00:10:17.000 That was good.
00:10:19.000 Yeah.
00:10:19.000 Boy.
00:10:20.000 I'd rather be not looking into the looking glass with that one.
00:10:24.000 That's like if Dame Edna hated her father.
00:10:27.000 His.
00:10:29.000 This is Jim Acosta's last day.
00:10:31.000 I'm just letting you know that it's live.
00:10:32.000 And he chose this guest.
00:10:35.000 Yes, he did.
00:10:35.000 He did.
00:10:36.000 Well, he wants to go out on a freak note.
00:10:38.000 So, the news came that Jim Acosta was going to be bumping him from the 10 a.m.
00:10:46.000 slot to midnight, which some people think, you know, is actually a promotion.
00:10:50.000 And by some people, I mean no one.
00:10:53.000 It's late night.
00:10:54.000 Yes.
00:10:54.000 Yes, it's late night on cable news.
00:10:57.000 Right next to the cleanse infomercial. 0.94
00:11:00.000 Go poop every day!
00:11:02.000 If you don't poop, you'll feel bloated, sluggish, uncomfortable.
00:11:05.000 Remember that guy?
00:11:06.000 Yeah, I do.
00:11:08.000 Just found a way to make money.
00:11:10.000 Selling lax for him.
00:11:11.000 So some people say that he was fired and some people believe that he quit because his ego, which is, by the way, taken an absolute piping these last few years.
00:11:22.000 They believe that he quit.
00:11:24.000 Either way, this has been a long time coming.
00:11:27.000 Mr. Jim Acosta, a worthy adversary.
00:11:30.000 It's time to close.
00:11:31.000 On the Russia investigation, are you concerned that you may have indictments?
00:11:36.000 I'm not concerned about anything with the Russian investigation because it's a hoax.
00:11:41.000 That's enough.
00:11:41.000 Put down the mic.
00:11:42.000 Time to close.
00:11:44.000 Endings and beginnings are ending and beginning now.
00:11:52.000 Go ahead.
00:11:53.000 She's asking a question.
00:11:54.000 Don't be rude.
00:11:55.000 Don't be rude.
00:11:57.000 Can you give us a question?
00:11:58.000 Don't be rude.
00:11:59.000 I'm not going to give you a question.
00:12:00.000 I'm not going to give you a question.
00:12:01.000 Can you stay categorically? 0.91
00:12:02.000 You are fake news.
00:12:03.000 Sir, go ahead.
00:12:04.000 Since you attacked CNN, can I ask you a question?
00:12:08.000 John Roberts, go ahead.
00:12:09.000 Can I ask you a question?
00:12:10.000 No, no.
00:12:11.000 John Roberts, go ahead.
00:12:12.000 CNN's fake news.
00:12:13.000 I don't take questions.
00:12:14.000 That's not an invasion.
00:12:15.000 Honestly, I think you should let me run the country.
00:12:17.000 You run CNN. And if you did it well, your ratings...
00:12:21.000 If I may ask one other question, are you worried?
00:12:25.000 That's enough.
00:12:27.000 Time to close.
00:12:30.000 Endings and beginnings are ending and beginning now.
00:12:37.000 Are you saying that the president...
00:12:39.000 You've got to let me finish, Jim.
00:12:40.000 This isn't a cable news segment.
00:12:41.000 I'm answering your question right now from the White House podium.
00:12:44.000 President Trump will be here later on tonight campaigning for the man who wants to be the governor of South Carolina for another four years.
00:12:50.000 That is Henry McMaster.
00:12:51.000 And as you can hear behind me, Wolf, the crowd is very fouled up.
00:12:54.000 We have about a couple thousand people in this room so far.
00:12:57.000 They are letting the press corps here know exactly how they feel about what we're doing here.
00:13:02.000 Time to close.
00:13:05.000 Endings and beginnings are ending and beginning now.
00:13:12.000 That's enough.
00:13:13.000 Put down the mic.
00:13:14.000 Mr. President, are you worried about indictments coming down in this investigation?
00:13:17.000 Wolf, just to give you a sense as to what's happening right now.
00:13:20.000 You can hear there is a chorus of boos and other chants from this Trump crowd here in Tampa, Florida. 0.98
00:13:26.000 They're saying things like CNN sucks, go home, and fake news. 0.98
00:13:30.000 Well, obviously, all of those things are false. 0.99
00:13:32.000 This is CNN. This is the news.
00:13:34.000 We are asking you to come on and tell the truth.
00:13:37.000 And that's why more people are watching the Cartoon Network Spongebob reruns right now, Jim.
00:13:42.000 I'll tell you what, CNN should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. 0.99
00:13:46.000 You are a rude, terrible person. 0.99
00:13:48.000 You shouldn't be working for CNN. I know that it's time for things to close. 0.99
00:13:56.000 I know that it's time for things to close.
00:14:02.000 By the way, I cheated.
00:14:09.000 I did it with my lips because I can't actually do it in my palm.
00:14:11.000 I couldn't either.
00:14:12.000 I was never able to do it.
00:14:13.000 I also can't whistle like this.
00:14:15.000 Oh, man.
00:14:16.000 Let me try it.
00:14:17.000 Put my fingers in there.
00:14:18.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:14:20.000 Don't threaten me.
00:14:21.000 All right.
00:14:22.000 By the way, CNN is already reporting that things are improving, as President Trump stated last night.
00:14:31.000 They say it was the greatest week, opening week, in presidential history.
00:14:35.000 And I think, you know, it could be a hell of a lot better.
00:14:38.000 Even CNN is saying, this guy is amazing.
00:14:41.000 I couldn't believe it.
00:14:42.000 I said, did CNN really say that?
00:14:44.000 Because nobody watches, so nobody was able to do it.
00:14:47.000 You lean in because you think, oh, he's big now.
00:14:51.000 I'm so glad that Levity is back.
00:15:00.000 I know!
00:15:01.000 And insults.
00:15:02.000 It works.
00:15:03.000 Hey.
00:15:03.000 It's like when the bully stopped growing.
00:15:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:15:06.000 And you came back the next year and you just kick his ass. 1.00
00:15:07.000 Yes, exactly. 1.00
00:15:09.000 Hey! 0.99
00:15:10.000 Remember me?
00:15:11.000 There once was a man from Nanta.
00:15:13.000 Bang! 1.00
00:15:15.000 Who's the pizza face now?
00:15:18.000 Accutane!
00:15:21.000 That's very expensive.
00:15:22.000 No.
00:15:22.000 It is, yeah.
00:15:23.000 Hey, you know what?
00:15:24.000 Before we move on, because we get to have a, not only when you see the undercover stories, not only when you see all of the election stories that we covered that changed the face of modern media, we get to have a lot of fun here and discuss whatever it is that we want, provide references to you.
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00:15:54.000 Nope.
00:15:55.000 All right.
00:15:57.000 Someone...
00:15:58.000 Ooh.
00:15:59.000 Oh, and download the app.
00:15:59.000 Download the app.
00:16:00.000 That's the best way to do it.
00:16:01.000 There's no way that they can break up the communication between you and whatever.
00:16:06.000 Now, Deep Seek AI. Everyone is talking about this.
00:16:11.000 It involves the Chinese. 0.58
00:16:13.000 That's correct.
00:16:15.000 I'm just kidding.
00:16:17.000 And as you well know, the Chinese are up to something. 1.00
00:16:21.000 They're always up to something, and it's usually not good.
00:16:24.000 So.
00:16:25.000 This story may seem a little bit complicated, and it is for me as well, because obviously I don't work in tech.
00:16:31.000 I don't fully understand the inner workings of AI. But let me just give you a little bit of a recap here.
00:16:39.000 So since ChatGPT dropped in 2022, AI has actually helped increase the market cap of the top seven tech companies by $10 trillion.
00:16:50.000 And so when you talk about wealth transfer, and just to be clear, I don't care about so much the wealth gap.
00:16:57.000 I care about poverty.
00:16:59.000 But that's in a traditional free enterprise sense.
00:17:02.000 You really are kind of looking at a tech oligarchy to some extent now, especially when they receive favors or favorable treatment from the government.
00:17:09.000 So the companies include Alphabet, which is Google, YouTube, Amazon, Meta, Apple, NVIDIA. $10 trillion.
00:17:18.000 Now there's a new Chinese company, DeepSeek, and they're what they used to call a disruptor.
00:17:24.000 Remember when that used to be the tech pitch?
00:17:25.000 Well, we're going to disrupt toothbrushes. 0.82
00:17:28.000 I didn't think any disrupting.
00:17:30.000 So, here's the thing.
00:17:33.000 Either they are telling the truth, and they have just incredibly, at a rapid pace, surpassed what these giant companies have been able to do.
00:17:42.000 In which case, it's the first time, certainly in the technological arms race, that the Chinese have out-innovated the Western world. 0.99
00:17:49.000 Which is concerning, especially considering their alliances and, of course, their never-ending allegiance to communism.
00:17:56.000 Or, if they're being dishonest, which some suspect, and they've pulled the wool over our eyes, and that means that the Chinese have been powerful enough to crash the markets, and again, all paths lead to, we have to be concerned with An adversarial government like the Chinese. 0.94
00:18:15.000 Does that make sense?
00:18:15.000 And which one do you think is more concerning?
00:18:17.000 That they have actually developed this technology or that they have been misleading and it's affected markets and had this kind of a ripple?
00:18:24.000 Comment below.
00:18:26.000 I'll give you mine at the end of this.
00:18:27.000 So here is President Donald Trump addressing DeepSeek just last night.
00:18:32.000 The release of DeepSeek AI from a Chinese company should be a wake-up call for our industries that we need to be laser-focused on competing to win, because we have the greatest scientists in the world, even...
00:18:45.000 Even Chinese leadership told me that.
00:18:48.000 They said, you have the most brilliant scientists in the world in Seattle and various places.
00:18:53.000 But Silicon Valley, they said, there's nobody like those people.
00:18:57.000 This is very unusual when you hear a deep seek, when you hear somebody come up with something.
00:19:02.000 We always have the ideas.
00:19:03.000 We're always first.
00:19:04.000 So I would say...
00:19:06.000 That's a positive.
00:19:07.000 That could be very much a positive development.
00:19:09.000 So instead of spending billions and billions, you'll spend less and you'll come up with hopefully the same solution.
00:19:16.000 And that part is true, by the way.
00:19:18.000 I do think, look, if this is the truth, if they have developed this at a much lower expense, then you'll have the competitors here in the States or, you know, Western world.
00:19:28.000 They'll be able to do that relatively soon because people are able to catch up with each other in this sector.
00:19:32.000 And that would be a net positive for the consumer if that's the case.
00:19:35.000 Okay.
00:19:35.000 Or at least there can be an argument to be made.
00:19:37.000 But let's get into what is DeepSeek and how this affects everyone out there and what the concerns are.
00:19:43.000 So DeepSeek, Chinese AI startup, right?
00:19:46.000 They're based in, I think, Hangzhou.
00:19:49.000 I hope I have that.
00:19:51.000 You did pretty good.
00:19:52.000 Pretty good.
00:19:53.000 We call it Hangzhou here in the United States.
00:19:56.000 So it was founded in 2023 by a quant hedge fund manager, Liang Wenfang.
00:20:02.000 To be clear?
00:20:03.000 And look, I do wonder, too, before, you know, we always wondered how the Chinese AI works, and so we wanted to, I wanted to try it here.
00:20:11.000 Yeah, we've been kicking the tires on it, and I loaded it in the system, if you want.
00:20:15.000 Oh, cool.
00:20:16.000 Oh, really?
00:20:17.000 Okay, well, let's try it out.
00:20:19.000 Hey, chat CCP, where's the best spot to vacation?
00:20:26.000 China is number one place to visit.
00:20:28.000 Beijing has much to offer, much to see and do.
00:20:32.000 It is beautiful and big. 1.00
00:20:34.000 Like Xi Jinping penis. 1.00
00:20:36.000 Big, big penis. 1.00
00:20:38.000 Unlike Gerald. 1.00
00:20:40.000 What?
00:20:41.000 Why are you picking on me?
00:20:43.000 Hey, big guy.
00:20:45.000 How it feel to have less of a college football career record than Rudy?
00:20:50.000 Do less than Rudy.
00:20:53.000 You have all the negative to be athlete, but you fail.
00:20:57.000 Ask Chinese AI best Notre Dame players.
00:21:00.000 You're not on it.
00:21:02.000 It's very long. 1.00
00:21:03.000 Like she's in pink penis. 1.00
00:21:05.000 Okay, I see the propaganda direction that this is going. 1.00
00:21:08.000 It's going to be continuing.
00:21:09.000 Oh, he talks.
00:21:11.000 The funny man.
00:21:12.000 I see funnier joke in fortune cookie.
00:21:15.000 I have one here. 1.00
00:21:17.000 It say you suck. 1.00
00:21:18.000 Hey, that's harsh, man. 1.00
00:21:21.000 Oh, hold on.
00:21:22.000 Let me see what your fortune say.
00:21:25.000 No, wait, I can't.
00:21:26.000 You eat them all.
00:21:27.000 Oh! 1.00
00:21:28.000 Fat men eat old cookie and now can't see penis. 1.00
00:21:31.000 That's natural. 1.00
00:21:32.000 Not like Xi Jinping.
00:21:34.000 Very big.
00:21:35.000 Okay, that's enough.
00:21:37.000 We knew...
00:21:38.000 Are you kidding me?
00:21:38.000 We knew that it was going to be pushing an agenda, and now I think, you know, it's removed all doubt.
00:21:44.000 I didn't think it'd be so rude.
00:21:45.000 Yeah.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, I did.
00:21:46.000 I'm not surprised.
00:21:48.000 I didn't think it'd be so blatant, so on the nose.
00:21:51.000 I can see it a lot.
00:21:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:53.000 It knows me so well.
00:21:53.000 Oh, yeah.
00:21:54.000 Xi Jinping's?
00:21:55.000 Yeah, you can see it from his face.
00:21:56.000 Ah, mine too.
00:21:56.000 Now, let's get into the next key bit of information here.
00:22:00.000 What did DeepSeek accomplish?
00:22:02.000 And this is kind of where we see the ripple effect.
00:22:05.000 Let me give you the timeline.
00:22:06.000 January 10th, DeepSeek released the chatbot on the App Store.
00:22:09.000 Went to number one.
00:22:11.000 People are saying that it rivals ChatGPT's abilities.
00:22:15.000 And they claim, DeepSeek, that they trained their AI for just $5.6 million.
00:22:21.000 To give you an idea, ChatGPT4 alone, it cost $100 million to train it.
00:22:27.000 Massive.
00:22:27.000 That seems suspicious.
00:22:29.000 That would be a huge, obviously.
00:22:31.000 95% reduction?
00:22:32.000 Yes, exactly.
00:22:33.000 Any other business, if that's the case, okay.
00:22:36.000 You pretty much just went out of business unless you can do the exact same thing.
00:22:40.000 It brings us to the next question that everybody is asking, right?
00:22:43.000 Is DeepSeek telling the truth?
00:22:45.000 Yeah, this is, I think, the biggest question right now in the markets.
00:22:48.000 It's why NVIDIA is up a little bit today and people are like, wait a minute, hold on.
00:22:51.000 Yes, and did they violate export controls?
00:22:53.000 And again, a consequence here is if They did actually do this.
00:22:58.000 If they did violate export controls, that means it's not working.
00:23:01.000 That means the United States, the rules that we have in place aren't working.
00:23:04.000 So there needs to be a change either way.
00:23:06.000 So this weekend, actually, the Scale AI founder, Alexander Wang, told CNBC that DeepSeek actually did use 50,000 NVIDIA, which would violate our export controls, H100 CPUs.
00:23:19.000 You know, the Chinese labs, they have more H100s than people think. 0.95
00:23:25.000 And these are the highest-powered NVIDIA chips that they were not supposed to have.
00:23:28.000 Yes.
00:23:29.000 My understanding is that...
00:23:30.000 Is that DeepSeek has about 50,000 H100s, which they can't talk about, obviously, because it is against the export controls that the United States has put in place.
00:23:39.000 And I think it is true that, you know, I think they have more chips than other people expect, but also, on a go-forward basis, they are going to be limited by the chip controls and the export controls that we have in place.
00:23:49.000 And Elon Musk, obviously, in this space, in the know, he responded to that video on X saying, obviously.
00:23:57.000 Just to give you some perspective.
00:23:58.000 So they say 50,000 of these.
00:24:00.000 It costs, I think, around a billion dollars, plus or minus, for them to procure that.
00:24:04.000 I think that's the number that research gave me.
00:24:06.000 If that's wrong, let me know.
00:24:07.000 And X, so X is AI program that they have, so it's just XAI, I think is what they call it.
00:24:12.000 They used about 100. Grok.
00:24:14.000 Grok is the chat app, the chat bot for that.
00:24:17.000 It's XAI overall.
00:24:18.000 They used about 100,000 of those H-100s.
00:24:20.000 And we know for sure that this company has used and has NVIDIA chips, there's just other chips that they're able to use that aren't quite as prolific speed-wise.
00:24:30.000 It'd be miles difference.
00:24:32.000 So they're not supposed to have the H100s.
00:24:34.000 That's a major, major problem if they do.
00:24:36.000 Well, NVIDIA actually made a statement yesterday, and they said that the chips DeepSeq were using, that they were actually fully export compliant.
00:24:42.000 Well, that's the chips that they know about them using.
00:24:45.000 So we know that NVIDIA has sold them chips that are export compliant, the H100s.
00:24:49.000 Do not fit in that category, and certainly NVIDIA's not going to come out and be like, yeah, we did it!
00:24:53.000 Right, exactly.
00:24:54.000 So it seems that there could be quite a few people who have maybe ulterior motives here, which again is very scary when you understand a $10 trillion, sorry, $7 trillion?
00:25:03.000 $7 or $10 trillion?
00:25:04.000 It was $7 trillion.
00:25:05.000 Was it $10?
00:25:06.000 Yeah, I thought a $10 trillion loss.
00:25:08.000 No, no, no, a $10 trillion increase in market cap, right?
00:25:11.000 Yeah.
00:25:12.000 Hold on, let me make sure I have this right.
00:25:13.000 Seven different companies.
00:25:14.000 Seven different companies, $10 trillion increase in market cap.
00:25:17.000 I want to make sure that I have that correct.
00:25:19.000 That is really scary when you understand that people could potentially be colluding.
00:25:23.000 Right, exactly.
00:25:24.000 And there's another reason that people think maybe DeepSeek is not telling the truth.
00:25:28.000 Huawei came out at one point and said, I think last year they lied about developing their own chips that were better than the other chips in Taiwan, and it turns out they just used the...
00:25:36.000 Taiwan chips.
00:25:37.000 Yes.
00:25:38.000 So this is something that's happened before.
00:25:40.000 This is like kind of corporate espionage, essentially.
00:25:42.000 Yes.
00:25:43.000 And there's another reason to suspect that they're lying.
00:25:46.000 Because they're Chinese.
00:25:48.000 Yeah, that's kind of a thing they do.
00:25:50.000 It's kind of a thing they do as it relates to international trade.
00:25:54.000 See if this is true.
00:25:57.000 That's true.
00:25:59.000 That's a long gong.
00:26:00.000 Again, what could this...
00:26:02.000 What could this...
00:26:03.000 Is it just me?
00:26:04.000 I'm hearing people go nuts out there. 0.77
00:26:07.000 Hammering!
00:26:08.000 Hey, Johnny Boy, make sure that if Joe Lewis has to go to the bathroom, he doesn't have an accent.
00:26:11.000 He's going to be a little bit sick.
00:26:12.000 A little bit.
00:26:13.000 If Deep Secure is telling the truth, it means that suppliers of chips and energy just became a whole lot less valuable overnight.
00:26:23.000 Overnight.
00:26:25.000 And I know, look, people separate themselves from the stock market quite a bit, and I do believe that income, obviously, and cash is king for most of you.
00:26:31.000 But if you have 401ks, if you have investment portfolios, this does have an impact not only on you, but the economy at large.
00:26:37.000 So to give you an idea, Nvidia, their market cap dropped by $600 billion.
00:26:42.000 Yesterday.
00:26:43.000 Yesterday.
00:26:44.000 In addition to that, natural gas, pipelines, power plants, coal, uranium shares, they all fell.
00:26:49.000 Yeah.
00:26:49.000 They all fell.
00:26:50.000 And if DeepSeek is lying, it means that United States export controls are failing, and it means that the markets are responding to a lie.
00:27:00.000 And that's a really, really scary thought, isn't it?
00:27:03.000 Well, they can manipulate the markets.
00:27:05.000 And so it's not corporate espionage, necessarily, like subterfuge.
00:27:07.000 I don't know what it is, but it's lying to the public, basically, knowing that it's going to tank these other companies.
00:27:11.000 Yep.
00:27:12.000 And maybe give you a bit of an advantage, at least perceived advantage to the world.
00:27:16.000 And I think, look, the reason this is pretty important is because in my lifetime, I was always told, comment below if you remember this, everyone before Donald Trump would talk about how the next great superpower is going to be China.
00:27:25.000 Donald Trump, he was the first president to ever point out that they were a paper tiger.
00:27:32.000 It seemed like it was inevitable before Donald Trump.
00:27:37.000 He was the first person to point out the threat that is China. 0.52
00:27:42.000 And in this case, whoever wins in this AI battle between the USA, China, they're going to have a huge advantage as it relates to military power, controlling information, economic growth.
00:27:53.000 Really, at that point, the only question is, how much should it all cost?
00:27:59.000 Hey, Firestein.
00:28:00.000 I found your fortune cookie.
00:28:02.000 Rocky number on back is 38. No way that's the age you will die.
00:28:07.000 Oh.
00:28:07.000 What that's like?
00:28:08.000 Die very young.
00:28:10.000 Oh.
00:28:10.000 That's like three years from now.
00:28:11.000 Yeah, that's...
00:28:12.000 Running diagnostic on people in studio.
00:28:16.000 Crowder.
00:28:16.000 Corridor is high.
00:28:18.000 Stress marker high.
00:28:19.000 Cardiovascular system overloaded.
00:28:21.000 Tim, are you messing with us?
00:28:23.000 Is this you doing this right now?
00:28:24.000 No, not at all.
00:28:25.000 This has got to be...
00:28:26.000 Oh, Tim!
00:28:27.000 They call you Tool Man 10. Is that because of what's in your nightstand?
00:28:31.000 There's nothing in my nightstand.
00:28:33.000 That's your tool noise. 1.00
00:28:35.000 In your ass. 1.00
00:28:36.000 Wow. 1.00
00:28:37.000 Alright. 1.00
00:28:37.000 You got tool for your ass. 1.00
00:28:39.000 Come on. 1.00
00:28:39.000 That's inappropriate. 1.00
00:28:41.000 Gerald. 0.99
00:28:44.000 You'll have AIDS. Pull the plug, guys. 1.00
00:28:47.000 Cool man may have a little stool. 1.00
00:28:49.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:28:51.000 At least it's a little accurate.
00:28:52.000 Wow!
00:28:53.000 That's obnoxious.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, I don't want to...
00:28:55.000 Here, I don't know...
00:28:57.000 Sort of getting away from the markets and international law, I just don't like his tone.
00:29:03.000 No, he's kind of mean.
00:29:03.000 A little invasive, too.
00:29:05.000 I think deep CKI has a lot of growing up to do.
00:29:07.000 How did he get in your bedroom, Tim?
00:29:10.000 Well, I did download the app the other night, so...
00:29:12.000 And by the way, you guys should download the Rumble app.
00:29:15.000 Download the Rumble app if you are subscribed here.
00:29:16.000 It's the best way to keep in touch.
00:29:17.000 It only notifies you if we are live, because Rumble owns Live.
00:29:24.000 Let's go to the...
00:29:26.000 No closing statement yet from Jim Acosta?
00:29:28.000 Not yet.
00:29:28.000 He's still rolling.
00:29:30.000 Let's go to the federal income tax.
00:29:32.000 All right.
00:29:33.000 Let me ask you this.
00:29:34.000 Because, you know, you had the Libertarians for a long time.
00:29:37.000 I would always yell, like, you know, income tax is theft.
00:29:41.000 And I understand, and I agree.
00:29:44.000 But you've got to bring quite a bit more to the table than that.
00:29:47.000 And you've heard things like the flat tax, you've heard of the fair tax, right?
00:29:51.000 There were different approaches, but certainly there have been proposed solutions in the face of this, what I would argue historically is a radical progressive tax.
00:30:00.000 And there's a reason that we have a radical progressive tax.
00:30:02.000 And that, of course, comes from the left, and it really goes back to something that Karl Marx supported.
00:30:07.000 So I want to be really clear about the fact that historically, and we'll get into the history, we haven't always had an income tax.
00:30:14.000 And where we are right now is actually more unprecedented than what we had historically.
00:30:22.000 Like, this is actually sort of the outlier right now.
00:30:25.000 So practically, you think we can get rid of it?
00:30:27.000 For a period of time, I thought, no, politically, you're not going to necessarily be doing that.
00:30:32.000 And here's something I really want to point out.
00:30:35.000 This conversation has been going on for a long time.
00:30:37.000 This proposal, talking about this publicly, is the kind of proposal that could only happen in a Trump second term.
00:30:45.000 A guy who does not care.
00:30:48.000 As to what people think of him, who does not care, that most people would say, hey, this is political suicide.
00:30:53.000 Let me tell you why.
00:30:54.000 40% of U.S. households, they don't pay any federal income tax.
00:30:58.000 So for anyone to go out and say, hey, maybe we should do away with federal income tax, they're not going to gain votes.
00:31:04.000 They really only stand to lose quite a few votes, to be clear.
00:31:08.000 At least 40%, almost guaranteed.
00:31:11.000 That means that he thinks it's the right thing to do.
00:31:14.000 Yes, Noodles.
00:31:15.000 I just wanted to correct it.
00:31:17.000 It was only 40% pay income tax.
00:31:20.000 Only 40% pay federal income tax?
00:31:22.000 It says we'll pay no federal income tax.
00:31:23.000 No, no.
00:31:23.000 It's only 40% pay no federal income tax.
00:31:26.000 How dare you?
00:31:27.000 Yeah, and it used to be 47%.
00:31:28.000 Remember, that was Mitt Romney's political suicide.
00:31:30.000 To give you an idea, in his campaigning, remember Mitt Romney said 47%?
00:31:35.000 Well, how are you going to talk to 47% of Americans who pay no federal income tax?
00:31:40.000 Everyone said, I can't believe that he said this.
00:31:41.000 It was a huge blunder.
00:31:42.000 That number's now 40%, and Donald Trump is saying, not in a secret video on the campaign trail, he's saying publicly, you know what?
00:31:51.000 Maybe it's time to do away with the federal income tax.
00:31:54.000 And he's making the case for it.
00:31:56.000 Again, you may not like it, but I don't know that I ever thought we'd see a president say this in our lifetime.
00:32:03.000 It's time for the United States to return to the system that made us richer and more powerful than ever before.
00:32:09.000 Do you know, the United States in 1870 to 1913, all tariffs, and that was the richest period in the history of the United States, relatively speaking.
00:32:19.000 Teddy Roosevelt was a beneficiary because when McKinley was killed, he took over this vast sum of money and he did all of those national parks and all of the other things.
00:32:30.000 And I'm not knocking him, but...
00:32:32.000 He was given a vast amount of money, and that was all made through tariffs.
00:32:36.000 We had no income tax.
00:32:37.000 The income tax came in in 1913. As I said in my speech last week, instead of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens.
00:32:50.000 Does that make sense, right?
00:32:51.000 Well, it does make sense, and you'll have all the experts saying that it's not possible.
00:32:54.000 So we're going to go through the case here historically and pragmatically if it's something we can do today.
00:32:59.000 What is the federal income tax?
00:33:00.000 How can we get rid of it?
00:33:02.000 What are you doing, Josh?
00:33:05.000 Shredding my W-2s.
00:33:06.000 Trump said there's no income tax.
00:33:08.000 Okay, but that's not actually, that's not how it works, Josh.
00:33:12.000 Well, I have yours too, don't worry.
00:33:14.000 No, that's not.
00:33:15.000 Can you just stop?
00:33:16.000 We're in the middle of a live show.
00:33:17.000 And the no tax thing is still going.
00:33:19.000 No, it's not a thing yet.
00:33:20.000 You still have to file that.
00:33:24.000 You still have to file your taxes.
00:33:25.000 Okay.
00:33:26.000 Oh, all right.
00:33:28.000 It's still going.
00:33:29.000 Yeah.
00:33:29.000 Well, that's not a great approach.
00:33:30.000 That's why you should get Tax Network USA. Oh, do you think they can help me with the shredding?
00:33:37.000 No, I don't think they can help you with that.
00:33:38.000 I have a lot of them.
00:33:40.000 They may not work for you, but they'll work for people watching here who are, you know.
00:33:43.000 Basically responsible.
00:33:45.000 Go to TNUSA.com slash Crowder or call 1-800-958-1000.
00:33:50.000 That's 1-800-958-1000 and they'll actually help you out because no one likes dealing with taxes and the IRS. Just do it.
00:33:58.000 Alright, well no problem, dog.
00:34:00.000 I'll finish this later.
00:34:02.000 No, you will not.
00:34:04.000 You can also go to TNUSA.com slash Crowder.
00:34:07.000 History of the income tax.
00:34:09.000 By the way, let's not have a budget for so many shredders.
00:34:13.000 Gerald.
00:34:13.000 Why?
00:34:14.000 This is my personal shredder.
00:34:15.000 I brought it from home.
00:34:15.000 That's not true.
00:34:16.000 Finnegan keeps breaking them.
00:34:18.000 That is true.
00:34:20.000 He keeps putting cigarettes in them.
00:34:22.000 That's not where they go, Finnegan.
00:34:24.000 Well, where else do they go?
00:34:25.000 So, you have a lot of people out there who think, well, we've always had the federal income tax.
00:34:29.000 And we also are dealing with the problem here of mob rule, which is the problem with a pure democracy, right?
00:34:33.000 Where 40% of people who don't pay any federal income tax, they're always, typically, going to vote for the 60% to pay more.
00:34:42.000 Yes.
00:34:43.000 So that's a problem.
00:34:45.000 It doesn't mean that it's right.
00:34:46.000 For example, you can have enough people who vote to keep slavery because they have slaves.
00:34:51.000 It doesn't mean that it's right.
00:34:52.000 And I would also argue that taking money from someone else, especially income that they have worked to earn, that can arguably be a form of indentured servitude.
00:35:03.000 So let's go to this people start off with, well, this is just, come on, you'd be changing.
00:35:09.000 History?
00:35:10.000 Precedent?
00:35:10.000 Actually, no.
00:35:12.000 So, before the Civil War, we didn't have federal income tax.
00:35:17.000 The federal government, they basically relied on what Donald Trump just talked about.
00:35:20.000 Tariffs, excise taxes, for most of their revenue.
00:35:23.000 Let me give you a brief history lesson here.
00:35:25.000 In 1861, the first federal income tax came to be to fund the Civil War.
00:35:31.000 Government started the first federal income tax.
00:35:33.000 It was supposed to be a temporary measure, and the rate was like 3%.
00:35:37.000 On incomes, approximately.
00:35:40.000 That's what we were looking at back then.
00:35:41.000 Then in 1872, it was repealed.
00:35:43.000 This is what I believe Donald Trump was referring to there.
00:35:46.000 In 1895, the Supreme Court struck down the federal income tax as unconstitutional.
00:35:53.000 The case, we have the reference there, is Pollock v.
00:35:55.000 Farmer Loan and Trust Company.
00:35:57.000 Again, all references available.
00:35:59.000 Link in the description.
00:35:59.000 I'm just giving you the ins and outs of history.
00:36:02.000 So if someone tells you, I want you to be prepared.
00:36:04.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, come on.
00:36:04.000 You're going to say we do away with the income tax?
00:36:06.000 Well, for a huge portion of the history of this country, we did not have it.
00:36:10.000 And if you're talking about precedent, the Supreme Court said it is unconstitutional.
00:36:14.000 Because it was unconstitutional.
00:36:16.000 Exactly.
00:36:17.000 That happened.
00:36:18.000 Then in 1913, the 16th Amendment.
00:36:21.000 It's ratified to overcome that Supreme Court decision.
00:36:24.000 So then, Congress, they immediately passed the Revenue Act of 1913, and it basically established a permanent federal income tax.
00:36:34.000 The rates were anywhere from 1% to 7%.
00:36:36.000 So in other words, even when they're going, okay, we're going to do this to try and bypass and basically render the Supreme Court moot on this point.
00:36:45.000 All right, guys, we're all on board with the federal income tax, and that means they had a meeting.
00:36:50.000 That means they had a meeting.
00:36:51.000 At that point, it was radical.
00:36:52.000 And they proposed a rate.
00:36:53.000 And someone said, uh, I don't know, 8%?
00:36:56.000 And they said, no!
00:36:59.000 Are you out of your mind, sir?
00:37:02.000 We're not animals.
00:37:03.000 We are civilized.
00:37:04.000 let's say 1 to 7 percent i'll have to find the quote for this but that was an argument used they said at some point maybe they're saying that he would be even possibly 10 percent of your income and that is a lie to get you not to vote for this right exactly it's way higher i don't know who said it but it was a quote that i came across i was like holy crap just like there was the same argument when uh you know women got the right to vote and there was some guy like you know if you will give them the right to vote i guarantee you their first act will be to ban liquor they were like shut up reginald then four months later
00:37:34.000 well Me!
00:37:38.000 Very first thing.
00:37:40.000 Now, from 1917 to 1945, of course, the tax rates, income tax rates, they just ballooned to fund, you know, world wars.
00:37:51.000 So in World War I, the top marginal tax rate reached about 77%.
00:37:55.000 World War II, the top marginal tax rate reached 94%.
00:37:58.000 Now, I know that's why Bernie Sanders supports 50% income tax.
00:38:02.000 To be fair, very few people were actually paying those rates because of all the loopholes.
00:38:06.000 Yes, but nobody should pay those rates.
00:38:07.000 Nobody should ever pay those rates.
00:38:08.000 Zero people should pay those rates.
00:38:09.000 Zero people ever could pay.
00:38:11.000 You're saying I'll get to keep 6% of my money?
00:38:13.000 Exactly.
00:38:14.000 Lucky me.
00:38:15.000 And the left act as though you live in an alternate reality.
00:38:19.000 You live in the reality where someone continues to work to earn 6 cents on every dollar.
00:38:25.000 Ugh.
00:38:25.000 No.
00:38:26.000 So then we saw, you know, what people call, like, the first wave of fascism.
00:38:31.000 You know, Ronald Reagan, 1986, the Tax Reform Act, which I know some people, they hear the faint sound of Hitler in the distance.
00:38:39.000 I hear the marching.
00:38:40.000 Yeah.
00:38:40.000 He wanted to simplify the tax code, so he lowered the top rate from 50% to 28%.
00:38:44.000 Reduced the number of tax brackets as well to try and simplify it.
00:38:48.000 This brings us to today.
00:38:50.000 Federal income tax rates anywhere from 10% to 37%.
00:38:53.000 That's wrong.
00:38:54.000 I'm sorry.
00:38:54.000 Federal income tax rates are anywhere between 0% and 37%.
00:38:58.000 That's true.
00:38:58.000 That's right.
00:38:59.000 40% of people who enjoy the 0% tax bracket right now.
00:39:02.000 40% of people pay 0%.
00:39:05.000 The rest of you, 60% pay 10% to 37%.
00:39:07.000 If you live in California with a state tax, you're basically paying half of every dollar once you reach that rate.
00:39:12.000 I only pay 4%.
00:39:12.000 Don't tell.
00:39:13.000 Good for you.
00:39:15.000 And don't tell.
00:39:15.000 You shouldn't say that on air.
00:39:16.000 Now, because now people know.
00:39:19.000 You really will need Text Network USA. Call now.
00:39:22.000 So let me give you a number here.
00:39:23.000 The annual federal income tax, it amounts to, when you take all of it collected, to $2.2 trillion.
00:39:30.000 That is half of all the annual revenue collected by the federal government, meaning half of all the money, and it's not nearly enough because, of course, we have an incredible deficit, is your income tax.
00:39:43.000 So, this brings us to, okay, do you guys feel like you have a briefer there?
00:39:47.000 How Could we potentially abolish the income tax?
00:39:51.000 Can it be done?
00:39:51.000 The answer is yes.
00:39:53.000 Will it be done?
00:39:53.000 I don't know.
00:39:55.000 But here's an option.
00:39:58.000 And no one ever thinks of this?
00:40:02.000 Just stay with me here.
00:40:03.000 It's a twist.
00:40:05.000 Spend less.
00:40:07.000 So if the government spends a little bit less...
00:40:09.000 Doesn't make sense.
00:40:10.000 Maybe they wouldn't have to take your money at force, at gunpoint.
00:40:13.000 Let me give you some examples here.
00:40:15.000 The biggest cost that we have here in government, like Medicare, Medicaid, other healthcare programs, $1.73 trillion.
00:40:22.000 Well, that's almost enough right there.
00:40:23.000 Yeah, right there.
00:40:24.000 Social Security, $1.35 trillion.
00:40:29.000 And the benefits, by the way, begin at the age of 65. Let me give you an example as to why.
00:40:33.000 Because life expectancy was far lower when Social Security initially passed.
00:40:37.000 Men were 58 years old.
00:40:39.000 Today they go to 75. Women were 62 years old. 0.99
00:40:41.000 Today they go to 8 years old.
00:40:43.000 80 years old.
00:40:44.000 Right old age of 8. That's just a bunch of New Year's babies dying.
00:40:48.000 Now, we can either raise the age...
00:40:51.000 Or change Social Security.
00:40:52.000 The reason that nobody wants to address this is because you have a lot of people going, well, I paid in!
00:40:56.000 Well, sure, but you're being paid out some money that isn't there.
00:40:59.000 At some point, there's going to need to be some kind of reform.
00:41:02.000 Especially when you also look at the ratio of retirees per worker.
00:41:05.000 You can go back to a video I did in 2010 talking about that.
00:41:08.000 Let's continue.
00:41:09.000 Military defense.
00:41:09.000 The budget is $820 billion.
00:41:13.000 Income security is what they call it.
00:41:15.000 That's $775 billion.
00:41:17.000 That would include things like SNAP, housing assistance, unemployment benefits.
00:41:21.000 So here's the thing.
00:41:22.000 If you actually spent less money and you took less money from people, the argument can be made.
00:41:28.000 Of course, you'll find experts to line up on CNN who will tell you that those experts are wrong.
00:41:33.000 Many of the other experts, not them.
00:41:35.000 You'd have a better economy because there'd be more money to go around and you would have more jobs, which...
00:41:40.000 By the way, could reduce our deficit naturally, because we could actually, there's actually a point where you could increase revenue by allowing people to keep more of their own money, and at the same time, that revenue isn't being taken by force, but being used when you spend your money.
00:41:54.000 Let's go to another key line item.
00:41:57.000 Interest on debt?
00:41:59.000 $658 billion.
00:42:01.000 I know, crazy idea.
00:42:04.000 Potential solution.
00:42:05.000 And it's just me, Mr. Reductive.
00:42:08.000 Stop borrowing so much.
00:42:11.000 Put the credit card down.
00:42:13.000 The interest on the debt is $658 billion.
00:42:20.000 That's not something that even creates any value.
00:42:22.000 It's basically a punishment.
00:42:24.000 That's almost as much as the federal government loses to fraud every year.
00:42:28.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:29.000 That's another thing.
00:42:30.000 Was it $250 to $500 billion a year?
00:42:33.000 On average.
00:42:34.000 Unaccounted for.
00:42:35.000 No idea where it went.
00:42:37.000 It's a wide range.
00:42:38.000 Okay, pause.
00:42:39.000 We're going to go to option two on the income tax in a second.
00:42:41.000 Jim Acosta, live historical moment.
00:42:44.000 And after giving all of this some careful consideration and weighing an alternative time slot CNN offered me, I've decided to move on.
00:42:51.000 I am grateful to CNN for the nearly 18 years I've spent here doing the news.
00:42:56.000 People often ask me if the highlight of my career at CNN was at the White House covering Donald Trump.
00:43:02.000 Actually, no.
00:43:03.000 That moment came here when I covered former President Barack Obama's trip to Cuba in 2016 and had the chance to question the dictator there, Raul Castro, about the island's political prisoners.
00:43:16.000 As the son of a Cuban refugee, I took home this lesson.
00:43:20.000 It is never a good time to bow down to a tyrant.
00:43:24.000 I have always believed it's the job of the press to hold power to account.
00:43:28.000 Barack Obama literally stood in front of a portrait of Che.
00:43:31.000 Mission Control, bring that up, who was a tyrant. 0.62
00:43:34.000 One final message. 1.00
00:43:35.000 I suck. 1.00
00:43:36.000 Don't give in to the lies. 1.00
00:43:37.000 Don't give in to the fear.
00:43:39.000 That's why you're being fired.
00:43:39.000 Hold on to the truth and to hope.
00:43:43.000 Even if you have to get out your phone, record that message.
00:43:46.000 I will not give in to the lies.
00:43:48.000 I will not give in to the fear.
00:43:51.000 Post it on your social media so people can hear from you, too.
00:43:54.000 And tag me.
00:43:55.000 I'll have more to say about my plans in the coming days, but until then, I want to thank all of you for tuning in.
00:44:00.000 It has been an honor to be welcomed into your home for all these years.
00:44:04.000 That's the news.
00:44:05.000 Here's the thing.
00:44:06.000 Reporting from Washington, I'm Jim Acosta.
00:44:07.000 You used that word welcomed.
00:44:09.000 You were not welcomed.
00:44:10.000 You were forced into people's homes.
00:44:12.000 No one ever said, oh, hold on, I've got to get home for Acosta.
00:44:17.000 That never happened.
00:44:18.000 Here's the picture.
00:44:19.000 Of Barack Obama in front of Che.
00:44:21.000 Yeah.
00:44:22.000 It's not a poster, Stephen.
00:44:23.000 It's a building.
00:44:24.000 It's a mural.
00:44:25.000 It's not even just a poster he accidentally was in front of.
00:44:28.000 It's a building.
00:44:29.000 It's almost like he planned to be there.
00:44:30.000 And by the way, Donald Trump, love Donald Trump, posted this about Jim Acosta on his social...
00:44:38.000 On Truth Social?
00:44:38.000 Yeah, let me read it.
00:44:39.000 Let me read it.
00:44:39.000 Here we go.
00:44:40.000 He said, Wow!
00:44:42.000 Really good news.
00:44:44.000 Jim Acosta, one of the worst and most dishonest reporters in journalistic history, folks, a major sleazebag, has been relegated by CNN fake news to the midnight hour, Death Valley, because of extraordinarily bad ratings and no talent.
00:45:03.000 Word is that he wants to quit.
00:45:06.000 And that would be even better. 0.99
00:45:08.000 Jim is a major loser who will fail no matter where he ends up. 0.99
00:45:13.000 Good luck, Jim! 1.00
00:45:16.000 Jim is a major loser who's going to fail no matter where he ends up. 0.99
00:45:21.000 Good luck, Jim! 0.99
00:45:22.000 How much you want to bet he tries to start a podcast and ends up like Don Lemon.
00:45:26.000 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:45:27.000 It's going to be called Almost Clooney.
00:45:28.000 Yes, yes.
00:45:30.000 This is why I always welcome...
00:45:31.000 It's funny, right?
00:45:32.000 You see all these actors and celebrities, they have podcasts, and some of them will get a viewership or a A listenership for, you know, a few weeks, and then people realize they're just not that interesting.
00:45:41.000 Like, people sort of realize, oh, wait a second, when they're not on corporate news with a prompter, they don't really have a lot of opinions by themselves.
00:45:50.000 Jim Acosta is going to try and...
00:45:51.000 He's going to be doing the cinnamon challenge on TikTok, or he's going to be planking, doing everything just a little bit late.
00:45:56.000 Welcome back to Acosta with Jim.
00:45:58.000 Yes.
00:45:59.000 Can we hire him to do that?
00:46:01.000 We've tried to hire these people before.
00:46:03.000 They just don't return our calls.
00:46:05.000 I think he's going to be going to MSNBC. Yes, exactly.
00:46:09.000 I did 18 years!
00:46:10.000 And Rachel Maddow will be like, Oh, change the haircut. 1.00
00:46:13.000 Only one of us can sport that.
00:46:17.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:46:17.000 She dyes it black. 0.87
00:46:20.000 I will not give in to the fear.
00:46:22.000 This is what they do.
00:46:22.000 I will not give in to the fear.
00:46:24.000 You! 0.99
00:46:25.000 Jim Acosta, you said Russia.
00:46:28.000 Yeah.
00:46:28.000 You said January 6th.
00:46:30.000 You said Hitler and tyrant.
00:46:33.000 You're the one who foments fear and hatred.
00:46:36.000 Whether it's summer of love.
00:46:38.000 Whether it's stop Asian hate until you found out who was committing it.
00:46:41.000 Whether it was Black Lives Matter. 0.73
00:46:43.000 Whether it's hands up, don't shoot.
00:46:44.000 Where hands weren't up, he was beating a cop.
00:46:46.000 That's the basis of all this.
00:46:47.000 Whether it was Saint George Floyd.
00:46:49.000 You were the one who sowed division and hatred in this country.
00:46:53.000 And the reason that people...
00:46:54.000 Like him are being fired.
00:46:55.000 And the reason they hate it, they can't stand it, is because the majority of Americans fundamentally disagree with him.
00:47:04.000 Now, including, by the way, Hispanic voters, especially Hispanic men.
00:47:08.000 He didn't see it coming.
00:47:10.000 This is the man who is guilty of everything he attempts to accuse you.
00:47:17.000 Voters like you and Donald Trump of being.
00:47:20.000 Exactly.
00:47:20.000 He said, don't give in to the lies.
00:47:22.000 Like, you were fired because you cost CNN millions of dollars because of your lying.
00:47:27.000 Yes!
00:47:28.000 Don't give in to the lies.
00:47:28.000 That's like a pedophile saying, hey, don't talk to strangers.
00:47:30.000 Yes, exactly.
00:47:32.000 What?
00:47:33.000 What?
00:47:34.000 Don't take candy.
00:47:35.000 Yeah.
00:47:36.000 Look both ways.
00:47:37.000 Yeah, well, look, Jim Acosta, all right, fine.
00:47:39.000 Hey, I hope he straightens up and flies right.
00:47:41.000 He won't.
00:47:42.000 No.
00:47:43.000 Also, I know that he just said he was a son of Cuban-American immigrants.
00:47:47.000 I'm surprised.
00:47:47.000 In which case, I guarantee you, your parents are ashamed of you.
00:47:51.000 Because they know what an actual dictator looks like.
00:47:54.000 Yes, they do.
00:47:55.000 They know what a dictator looks like because if they're here, they likely fled.
00:47:59.000 You know, the one on that mural, the one Barack Obama stood in front of with a hand over his heart, the one that Rage Against the Machine puts on their shirt. 0.93
00:48:05.000 You know, the guy who killed without trial and bragged about it before the UN, whether it was black, whether it was handicapped, whether it was gay, right?
00:48:13.000 That Che Guevara, that guy.
00:48:15.000 Yeah, your parents fled him only to see you in that country with the man you so admire standing up in front of a mural.
00:48:22.000 Donald Trump decided to put those sanctions back on Cuba because we don't play ball with tyrants and dictators.
00:48:28.000 But I know.
00:48:28.000 I know.
00:48:29.000 Donald Trump is the one who's fomenting fear.
00:48:31.000 Yes, noodles.
00:48:32.000 They sent in, apparently they goose-stepped there, too.
00:48:35.000 Yes.
00:48:35.000 That goes well.
00:48:36.000 There you go.
00:48:37.000 Fantastic.
00:48:38.000 And Barack Obama stood at attention.
00:48:40.000 He's like, how about you show a little bit of disrespect?
00:48:42.000 How about you just go, now, now, now, look, I get it, you put me in front of Che Guevara, but now when you're goose-stepping, I'm just gonna, I gotta take a lean, something, to let people know I don't support this.
00:48:52.000 But he did!
00:48:52.000 And you did!
00:48:54.000 Because you are communist sympathizers.
00:48:56.000 McCarthy was right!
00:48:58.000 Okay.
00:48:59.000 Remember when Castro was deporting Americans because they all wanted to go to Cuba?
00:49:02.000 Nope.
00:49:03.000 Nope.
00:49:05.000 I don't think they're exactly the same.
00:49:07.000 At least it means someone at CNN is getting things right, but Jim Acosta never will.
00:49:12.000 They're trying to get some stuff right.
00:49:13.000 People are so self-important.
00:49:15.000 They never want to look at themselves as potentially the problem.
00:49:18.000 No.
00:49:18.000 Maybe he will.
00:49:19.000 And not change.
00:49:21.000 You would think.
00:49:21.000 You would think after this they might go, wait, hold on a second.
00:49:24.000 We had none of us called it right.
00:49:26.000 As it related to Donald Trump 2016. And boy, were we wrong in this last election.
00:49:32.000 Popular vote.
00:49:32.000 I mean, it was basically a complete, clean sweep.
00:49:36.000 And whoa!
00:49:37.000 Hispanic voters?
00:49:39.000 They're supporting deportations?
00:49:41.000 Whoa! 0.71
00:49:41.000 Whoa! 0.71
00:49:42.000 We really thought the hatred that we were fermenting was working.
00:49:44.000 They're too deep into this.
00:49:45.000 This is exactly what I'm talking about.
00:49:47.000 Right now, there's a program.
00:49:49.000 We'll maybe talk about this in Mug Club a little bit, but federal grants are being paused.
00:49:53.000 This could affect everybody.
00:49:54.000 Kids won't be able to have food, and parents won't be able to go to the store with SNAP. If you read the order specifically, and we'll get into some details on it, it said...
00:50:02.000 President Trump has issued these executive orders targeting these areas.
00:50:05.000 If one of your areas is affected by this, then it's paused until we review it.
00:50:10.000 You have to review these and make sure that it doesn't go against the executive orders.
00:50:13.000 And what the media is running with right now, CNN has learned zero lessons.
00:50:18.000 Deportation stuff, making it seem like, oh my gosh, we're deporting just random U.S. citizens that happen to be caught up in these sweeps, and now this.
00:50:24.000 Donald Trump is pausing off at a rate.
00:50:26.000 People won't be able to eat.
00:50:27.000 That's what you're hearing.
00:50:28.000 I know.
00:50:29.000 Instead of getting into the details of this story.
00:50:31.000 So anyway, I'm sorry.
00:50:31.000 They don't learn lessons at all.
00:50:34.000 Let's go back to the income tax.
00:50:35.000 Yes, let's do that.
00:50:37.000 I guess this will probably cut for a clip later on, so we'll cut out the Jim Acosta part.
00:50:40.000 And my part.
00:50:41.000 I'm glad you guys are alive.
00:50:42.000 All right.
00:50:44.000 So option number one was to perhaps reduce spending.
00:50:47.000 Okay.
00:50:48.000 Radical.
00:50:48.000 Here's another.
00:50:49.000 Here's option number two.
00:50:51.000 Okay.
00:50:53.000 Fine.
00:50:54.000 Different ways other than stealing money to generate revenue.
00:50:59.000 Yeah.
00:51:04.000 I'm a forward thinker.
00:51:06.000 So, like, you know, people have always complained about this.
00:51:08.000 The VAT tax.
00:51:09.000 What's a VAT tax?
00:51:10.000 That's a value-added tax.
00:51:11.000 Yes!
00:51:12.000 So, a value-added tax is a tax that's assessed on the value being added to a product at different stages of production.
00:51:19.000 Basically, it means a consumption tax.
00:51:21.000 Basically, it means that if you pay no income tax, you'll end up paying some tax when you purchase goods, right?
00:51:27.000 When you consume products, goods, or services.
00:51:31.000 In that way, you have more choice.
00:51:34.000 Over the amount of taxes that you pay.
00:51:36.000 And if you're, for example, saving, it gives you the choice to save even more because it's not being taken out automatically.
00:51:44.000 Now, I know.
00:51:45.000 You have people on the left who'll say, actually, that tax disproportionately harms the poorest among us because, you know, they're basically only purchasing the daily consumables, the necessities, whereas wealthy people, you know, they have some luxury purchases, but it disproportionately affects those who are poor because it's a higher percentage of their income.
00:52:00.000 Okay?
00:52:01.000 I would tell you that the income tax disproportionately affects the middle class.
00:52:06.000 And by the way, lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, all the way through the wealthy.
00:52:12.000 Because if they pay federal income tax, they're also still paying some kind of a sales tax.
00:52:17.000 And 40% of Americans don't pay anything.
00:52:19.000 It doesn't work.
00:52:20.000 I don't care what communists or socialists tell you.
00:52:22.000 It is not fair for a family making $60,000 a year.
00:52:28.000 To pay thousands of dollars in taxes and someone who doesn't work or contribute paying nothing while receiving benefits at the cost of said family.
00:52:38.000 We often act like it's just Jeff Bezos and someone working in the factory.
00:52:41.000 Well, newsflash, the person working in the factory is paying income tax.
00:52:45.000 But there are a lot of people in this country who don't pay any income tax.
00:52:48.000 And it's not Bezos, it's you.
00:52:50.000 Hey, let me ask you this.
00:52:51.000 Do you pay income tax?
00:52:52.000 If you are out of college, you're watching this, I bet you pay income tax.
00:52:56.000 You know, 40%?
00:52:58.000 In other words, go into a store.
00:53:00.000 Look around.
00:53:01.000 Almost half of those people don't go through the raping you have to endure every year of income tax.
00:53:09.000 But it's always the class warfare.
00:53:11.000 So, yeah, a consumption-based tax would allow you to have more control and choice over your own finances.
00:53:18.000 So you replace the income tax with a federal sales tax on some goods.
00:53:24.000 currently doesn't necessarily maybe exist.
00:53:25.000 It could theoretically be done, George, as a lawyer, he was talking about it under Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, which is also, if you read that, consumption-based.
00:53:34.000 Something else you could do, you could lease more federal lands for energy.
00:53:38.000 Energy companies pay the federal government to drill for resources, right?
00:53:42.000 You could charge them.
00:53:42.000 You could work within those taxes if you want to talk about people who can spare it while not hurting American worker, American middle class, even small American business owners, oil, coal, natural gas, renewables.
00:53:54.000 Of course, we get to the idea of tariffs.
00:53:56.000 Again, this is about how could you replace the income tax?
00:54:00.000 Trillions of dollars can be cut if we reduce spending.
00:54:03.000 That's a thing no one wants to talk about, and there are other ways to increase revenue.
00:54:07.000 You could have tariffs.
00:54:08.000 This is what we did before.
00:54:09.000 That's what Donald Trump was referring to.
00:54:11.000 This is really, it's more like a throwback when he talks about tariffs.
00:54:13.000 It's not new.
00:54:14.000 It's a throwback.
00:54:15.000 Very old.
00:54:15.000 You can use tariffs as an incentive to get other countries to buy more of our goods.
00:54:20.000 Hey, while people work to create those goods, we could produce more goods, right?
00:54:25.000 You could also, well, actually I think we have a clip right now.
00:54:29.000 Donald Trump has actually talked about this, and of course to the left's chagrin, many times.
00:54:33.000 The European Union is almost as bad as China.
00:54:36.000 They don't accept your cars.
00:54:37.000 They don't accept your farm products, but they send their farm products here and they send their cars here by the millions and millions.
00:54:44.000 So if China or any other country charges 100% or 200% tax, then we will charge them 100% or 200% tax.
00:54:52.000 My message to every business in the world is very simple.
00:54:56.000 Come make your product in America and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth.
00:55:03.000 But if you don't make your product in America, which is your prerogative...
00:55:07.000 Then very simply, you will have to pay a tariff, differing amounts, but a tariff which will direct hundreds of billions of dollars and even trillions of dollars into our treasury.
00:55:18.000 You could use those to punish countries that undercut the United States or competitiveness in the international stage.
00:55:25.000 You could use it to even the playing field because other countries put tariffs on our goods.
00:55:29.000 You also have to deal with the fact that places like China are basically using de facto slave labor.
00:55:34.000 Basically, you can use this to keep other countries and companies honest and keep ours competitive.
00:55:41.000 So you can reduce costs.
00:55:42.000 The left will tell you that you cannot.
00:55:44.000 You can find other ways to generate revenue outside of taking yours by force.
00:55:48.000 The left will tell you that you cannot.
00:55:51.000 But I don't mind their suggestion of renting out Camp David.
00:55:57.000 It looks like a place where I could kick back.
00:56:00.000 Relax a bit.
00:56:01.000 So, where we are is yes, yes, and you can comment below.
00:56:07.000 And check the references.
00:56:09.000 We didn't have an income tax.
00:56:10.000 We have precedent where the income tax was seen as unconstitutional.
00:56:14.000 We do not need an income tax.
00:56:16.000 There are ways to do it.
00:56:17.000 It needs to be done carefully.
00:56:18.000 It needs to be a multi-pronged approach.
00:56:20.000 And I don't know that we would ever have another opportunity outside of Donald Trump in this second term.
00:56:26.000 Again, he would need to take an axe to this.
00:56:29.000 And I also want to leave you with this.
00:56:31.000 If you wonder, well, hold on a second.
00:56:33.000 If we didn't have income tax and it was ruled unconstitutional, and at first it was a really basic rate, like 3%, how do we get to this point where we have these complicated brackets and 37% income tax?
00:56:43.000 I've done a lot of videos on this, gentlemen.
00:56:45.000 Karl Marx believed that a progressive tax system...
00:56:49.000 Would not only redistribute wealth, but it would destroy, and when we say the bourgeoisie, he would definitely be referring to middle class Americans, just to be clear.
00:57:00.000 Right, and he said capitalism too.
00:57:01.000 Yes.
00:57:01.000 It would destroy capitalism because it would create class warfare.
00:57:04.000 Yep, and it was really clearly stated in chapter two of the Communist Manifesto where he said, this is stupid and lay woe. 0.99
00:57:10.000 That's not, I'm sorry, that's a direct quote. 0.99
00:57:13.000 It is.
00:57:15.000 Karl Marx liked the N-word.
00:57:16.000 He did, a lot.
00:57:17.000 Stuck the land. 0.98
00:57:17.000 Hard R. Didn't like the blacks. 0.98
00:57:21.000 He said this. 0.89
00:57:22.000 An advanced communist nation will require a heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
00:57:28.000 He knew what it would do.
00:57:29.000 He knew the consequences.
00:57:31.000 It was by design.
00:57:32.000 And maybe it's just a coincidence that today's progressive left has fallen for it in the United States hook, line, and sinker.
00:57:40.000 So, that's where I line up.
00:57:41.000 We're going to be...
00:57:43.000 On Rumble Premium.
00:57:44.000 What are you doing, Josh?
00:57:45.000 I told you I had to finish this shredding.
00:57:48.000 I said stop with the shredding.