Nick DePaulo and Geraldine McCann join host Alex Blumberg and co-hosts John Rocha and Sarah Downey to discuss immigration reform, the latest in the Trump administration, and more. Plus, a new segment called "The Hardship" and a special guest appearance by a man who doesn't know what a Hardscrush is.
00:03:40.000It used to be if you had a gratuity added, like an 18, 20 gratuity, then there might be a box like, if you want to add something more you're, you'd comment, this is the most important thing of the day you've ever gone someplace, and they automatically add a gratuity don't tell you and then also have the automatic percentage box of tip.
00:03:58.000This is the first time i've encountered it and I wanted to retroactively give no gratuity none, none whatsoever.
00:04:07.000Like it's either, or you have to pick you.
00:04:10.000You tell you, tell me, and I know all the servers out there weather server, we give you any idea how hard we work.
00:04:34.000We were kind of on the warpath yesterday and turns out now hey, there actually is no warpath and it looks like there might be a deal and people going, oh okay yeah, that makes sense.
00:04:40.000Hey, remember how you were told there were no Chinese ships.
00:04:58.000And one other thing that I want to talk about, um, be very careful to not shortchange yourself with arguments.
00:05:03.000Conservatives do this a lot, and i've seen this out there, where they will say, well, you didn't have a problem with Obama or Clinton deporting millions.
00:05:09.000Well, how can you maintain that position and then say that we had an illegal immigration problem?
00:05:14.000So don't use that line of arguing because it's weak.
00:12:43.000Let's get to Greenland now and the meeting.
00:12:46.000We were covering this yesterday and kind of making the case.
00:12:48.000Well, President Trump obviously clarified his position at Davos.
00:12:52.000We talked about how he said he wasn't going to use force.
00:12:55.000And it seems like his approach in a long line of criticized approaches that then ended up being incredibly successful, it seems to have gotten Donald Trump and the American people exactly what would be best for us.
00:13:25.000I don't like that I'll have that song in my head.
00:14:32.000Then he posted this on Truth Social, it seems like the United States may have, it's a little bit cryptic, which is, we're kind of in that phase, that the United States may have reached a deal with Greenland.
00:14:43.000He wrote, based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rud, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.
00:14:58.000This solution, if consummated, consummated is a fun word, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations based upon this understanding.
00:15:11.000I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect February 1st.
00:15:29.000So we don't know exactly what this looks like, but it looks like it may include American sovereignty over parts of the island, but not the entire island.
00:15:38.000And it could be similar to there are a lot of arrangements like this.
00:15:40.000And make no mistake, you'll still have those on the left screaming about it.
00:17:02.000This has happened in the past where you have an announcement, something that may be unprecedented, you see a drop, then when it's used as a negotiating tool, we come to an agreement.
00:17:12.000Everything goes back up higher than even before the initial drop.
00:18:00.000So you want to attribute losses specifically to Donald Trump, but you don't want to attribute the consistent year-over-year gains that have helped generate prosperity for Americans while also enacting policies that help Americans.
00:19:34.000I think overall there's a sense that the president's arguments are not holding up here.
00:19:38.000So he continues to insist that he needs Greenland for national security reasons.
00:19:42.000And yet it was just last week that the Danes and European allies announced they would be sending in reinforcements to Greenland, additional troops, additional resources to bolster security both in Greenland and around the Arctic.
00:19:53.000And the president's response was to threaten to slap 10% tariffs on those countries.
00:19:57.000So I think people don't understand what he's trying to do.
00:20:33.000And even the Finnish president, by the way, the president of the most boring country that's ever existed, had to walk back some of his tough talk.
00:22:41.000This is when we're actually talking about aid that would be used, you know, to fight wars, which we think is probably the most significant number.
00:23:26.000I repeatedly spoke to Greenlandic officials who told me there is no evidence of an immediate Russian threat from Russia or China, telling me that they had not seen evidence of Russian and Chinese ships in Greenlandic waters, as the president has claimed.
00:23:39.000I even spoke to a Danish naval officer who told me that in his 30-plus years of working in and around Greenland, he had never seen a Chinese or a Russian ship.
00:23:47.000So I think there's confusion in terms of what the president's argument is here.
00:23:52.000People just don't understand what he's trying to do.
00:23:55.000Yeah, let me tell you where the confusion is coming from.
00:25:08.000It's very confusing because, you know, some people are saying that there's a threat from the Russians and the Chinese and that there may be vessels.
00:25:16.000But I spoke with a guy and he said no.
00:25:18.000So I don't know why people are confused.
00:25:30.000And then they'll try and tell you that the problem with misinformation and fake news is, well, these people aren't meticulous about their sourcing.
00:27:01.000Chinese activities are primarily concentrated in the waters of north of the Bering, of the Bering Strait, extending towards the North Pole.
00:27:11.000Oh, no, it's going to mess up Christmas.
00:27:13.000Now, so, so, by the way, you can check all the references.
00:27:18.000Hey, tune in live at 11 a.m. Eastern because you may be watching this clip.
00:27:21.00011 a.m. Eastern, we always do this live, become a part of the community.
00:27:45.000Well, let me compare to you the Denmark Navy, 127 active units, zero carriers, by the way.
00:27:51.000China has three carriers and 1,010 active units.
00:27:54.000So you tell me in which world the Danes can deal with the Chinese Navy in that region, let alone if, according to their own words, they're conducting joint operations with the Russians.
00:28:07.000They have less than a tenth of active units, and none of, by the way, the sort of deal breakers in these no carriers.
00:29:45.000If President Trump is Putin because he wanted to obtain more land or be in control of more land for the sake of Americans' security, that makes him Putin.
00:30:23.000That's why CNN, the reason they treat you like you don't, is because they want to condition you to be stupid.
00:30:31.000They want to condition you to simply accept, oh, well, she spoke with a, she spoke with a Danish guy.
00:30:38.000She had a Danish for breakfast, so there's no threat in Greenland.
00:30:43.000And then they want to condition you to believe.
00:30:45.000Keep in mind, these people are all involved with, I can't remember that one think tank nonprofit that listed this very program as the most biased, least reliable source, even though they acknowledge we're the only ones who provide references and that we fact-check things.
00:31:02.000But they said, because we use pejoratives or because sometimes we use ad hominems for every single Photoshop for every single sketch, they say that's inaccuracy in news.
00:31:09.000Well, I'll tell you what we haven't done.
00:31:44.000By the way, Europe, if you hate Putin so much, and by the way, I'm not a fan of Putin, just to be clear, stop enriching him by spending hundreds of billions of dollars on its oil.
00:31:53.000If you stop buying energy from there's no more Putin.
00:32:22.000Do you remember the UN speech where Trump was like, hey, you guys probably shouldn't be buying your stuff from Russia in his, I believe, first term?
00:35:33.000Most societies wipe their ass with coconut skin.
00:35:38.000Can't you see that guy was beat on his whole life?
00:35:42.000It goes to personality, I swear to God.
00:35:44.000Can't you see he's been a doormat and he sees Trump as an alpha male, just a scary and so they run to education and they stay in it their whole lives.
00:35:53.000They never build anything, never hold a fucking rail.
00:35:56.000They talk and they write and they talk.
00:35:58.000And then Trump comes in, who's actually built half the skyline of Manhattan, works with his hands, has billions of dollars and can relate to you and I.
00:36:17.000No, not only can people go, you think you relate to him because he's a billionaire.
00:36:19.000Well, I think that his policy on banning institutional investors from single-family homes, I think no one has even attempted to make the case how that benefits the elites.
00:36:59.000We've been paying for the meal for half a century.
00:37:03.000As one of my new favorites, a longtime favorite, but he's growing.
00:37:07.000Scott Besson, he talked about this since 1980.
00:37:11.000We spent 22 trillion more than all of our other NATO partners.
00:37:17.000To put it in perspective, the United States of America, since 1980, has contributed $22 trillion more dollars or spent $22 trillion more dollars on defense than all of NATO.
00:38:07.000That's the cost of your free internet, of your free health care, of your free two, three, 10-year paternity, maternity leave, of your welfare state.
00:39:28.000You know, while lefties across the world did the crackdown on crime here in the United States, where we have seen a record decrease in crime, even lower than pre-COVID levels, Europe is subsidizing, by the way, and in some cases, covering up criminal invasion.
00:39:40.000The rate of rape in England and Wales is up 140% from 2003 to 2022.
00:39:46.000And then we had Islamic roaming migrant rape gangs that their government helped cover up.
00:39:53.000Yeah, don't talk about it, though, because that'll get you in trouble.
00:40:00.000The leftist world, where immigrants good, white people bad.
00:40:03.000We showed you that commercial in Denmark where they said, you white couple, you actually need to break up and start dating people who aren't white.
00:40:12.000That's really the basis of the worldview.
00:40:17.000And actually, right now, because we wanted to see if these people can make their case, we sent our on-the-ground correspondent to Greenland.
00:41:06.000Do you know what it feels like to sit alone all by yourself, drinking beer after beer, after beer, in a booth at Bennegan's and looking over your shoulder every time someone walks in the door?
00:42:21.000I think that President Trump had a pretty good showing.
00:42:23.000I think that as everything settles, Greenland makes sense.
00:42:26.000I think most importantly, the American public is more educated.
00:42:30.000Think of COVID as a moment where a lot of people woke up.
00:42:34.000This entire administration, this second term, is opportunity after opportunity after opportunity for people to wake up.
00:42:40.000Most people don't know that none of these other nations have met their requirements.
00:42:44.000Most people don't know that, for example, Denmark has paid 1% of the bill that they have promised.
00:42:50.000Most people don't know, and this is very consequential, that the Danish intelligence reports that, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have these Chinese vessels and joint operations with Russia.
00:43:46.000Okay, we think it's best if the most powerful military in the world, who has the single most vested interest in securing this territory, takes the lead.
00:44:51.000In the United States of America, you're watching institutions, any institution of independent thinking is under assault and attack by the Trump administration.
00:45:00.000Yeah, so everything he's just said is untrue.
00:45:02.000First off, the event organizers flat out denied that there was any political pressure from the Trump administration.
00:45:06.000They probably just didn't want another asshole to speak.
00:45:09.000And then when you talk about books being banned, this is what the left does.
00:45:11.000They go, oh, the right, they've banned books.
00:46:40.000Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly.
00:46:44.000This is the guy that locked down California and filled in skate parks with sand and had police jogging after, not catching runners on the beach during COVID, right?
00:48:32.000I'm curious if a wormhole opened up that we fell into because isn't California a sanctuary state, which specifically means you won't allow federal law to be enforced?
00:48:44.000And isn't this the guy who not only doesn't want voter ID, but specifically prohibits localities from asking for voter ID?
00:49:20.000Alex Soros being as articulate as articulate can be.
00:49:24.000We just heard this point about untrustworthy people, and we talked about things in the United States like checks and balances, which aren't written anywhere, but are customs.
00:49:34.000And one man, Donald Trump, literally came in and just took that, you know, took that, took that all away.
00:49:41.000You know, so, you know, so when I see this, you know, when I look at this, you know, you know, he's got body disease regarding democracy.
00:49:53.000I also say to myself, when was this great time that everybody got along so well?
00:51:07.000New, just this guy really is finding his footing.
00:51:11.000You know, he's my favorite kind of gay because when people say, like, we don't care what you do in your bedroom, what we're talking about is Scott Besson.
00:51:48.000You know, I think it's very, very ironic that Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman, meets Sparkle Beach Kin, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris.
00:52:08.000He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros.
00:52:13.000And the Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else was on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church, he was having $1,000 a night meals at the French laundry.
00:52:26.000And I'm sure the California people won't forget that.
00:52:30.000And I can tell my message to Governor Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to California.
00:52:36.000We are going to crack down on waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:52:40.000He basically just falsely allegedly outed Newsom as a gay pool boy for billionaires.
00:55:14.000Like their guard isn't up anymore because they don't need to defend themselves in the way they used to because they know that the left's position is indefensible.
00:55:23.000It's just the tone is different where they're going, we're not going to have, we're not going to keep making the case to you because you've made none.
00:55:50.000And that brings us to this next segment.
00:55:53.000Look, since I've had to engage in quite a few debates, not only on the show, and then I wouldn't say debates, but rhetoric with Change My Mind.
00:56:02.000When I notice a troubling trend, I definitely want to make you aware of it because you may use this argument.
00:56:08.000I have seen a lot of people on the right use this argument.
00:56:11.000You need to keep in mind, you may score points with this, but does it end up shortchanging your entire position?
00:56:20.000If it does, you really probably shouldn't use it and try and stick with the through line of your sort of foundational arguments.
00:56:26.000When it comes to immigration, did we have an immigration problem?
00:56:53.000That precludes you from making the argument, well, hey, hey, liberal, well, you didn't complain when Obama deported more than Trump, when Clinton deported more, but then people said, well, didn't you just say it was a problem?
00:57:03.000So I see a lot of conservatives making this argument, and it's not true here.
00:57:08.000I'm kind of curious what your position was back during the Obama administration when that's exactly what he did.
00:57:18.000I'm not rating what Trump intends to do.
00:57:20.000I'm reading exactly what President Barack Obama did when he came into office and deported nearly 5 million people in excess of 3 million people.
00:57:30.000I would note that in eight years, Bill Clinton deported 12 million people.
00:58:19.000Donald Trump has deported less than 1.5 million people.
00:58:22.000Why did you not hear about the ICE raids and deportation operations when it was Democratic politicians giving the orders?
00:58:28.000Again, this argument that people make, it just doesn't make sense.
00:58:34.000You can't maintain the position that it's a good thing Donald Trump is fixing the border and upping deportations and then say, by the way, there was no problem created because Obama and Clinton did it 10 times as much.
00:59:50.000And no, they didn't all get due process.
00:59:53.000In fact, Bill Clinton worked with a Republican Congress to pass a law that deprived anyone within 100 miles of any U.S. border who'd been in the country less than 14 days, a courtroom.
01:02:31.000So that big inflated number would be down by 95% because that's the reason for the number that you see from Barack Obama and from Bill Clinton.
01:02:39.000So this brings us to key fact number two.
01:04:21.000You're operating within the left's framework because he solved 95% of that problem that they didn't at the border.
01:04:30.000Please stop using this argument because I guarantee you that it will bite you in the ass.
01:04:34.000And the moment that it becomes overwhelmingly popular to deport illegal aliens, and we're seeing that grow, guess what?
01:04:41.000The left will claim credit for it and they'll cite you as giving them credit.
01:04:45.000Steve, what's the definition of a turnaround?
01:04:48.000A turnaround could be anyone who's come and they've just basically returned from the border.
01:04:52.000Or an informal process, like we said, which is, okay, you're going to get out of here that doesn't go through a court order, doesn't have to go through this process.
01:05:39.000No, no, I want to make you making a point making arrests to go.
01:05:43.000I understand that your job is predicated on just getting increasingly more demented every single week and that the audience comes back to see if possible.
01:06:16.000We're going to take that up in a break.
01:06:18.000Coming up, you promise the Epstein deadline.
01:06:20.000I'll tell you exactly what you just saw.
01:06:22.000You saw a young man raised in the institutions dominated by feminism who encountered a man from another generation who wouldn't tolerate it.
01:06:31.000Where he's going, oh, no, wait, hold on a second.
01:08:42.000Sometimes it is fun to entertain their delusion and make it scarier.
01:08:46.000By the way, oh, I guess we're going late.
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