Louder with Crowder - August 12, 2025


🔴 Trump's Takeover Has the Left Absolutely Seething & It's Glorious 2025-08-12 18:16


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

201.54492

Word Count

10,393

Sentence Count

1,176

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

In this episode, the boys play a game where you have to guess the name of an Arnold Schwarzenegger character and try to figure out if it's a hedge fund manager or a bear. Featuring special guest Joe McCann.


Transcript

00:00:08.000 All right, Toolman.
00:00:10.000 Tell for those the uninitiated, tell them what this game is and the rules.
00:00:14.000 All right, so I'm going to bring up a lower third with a name on it, and y'all have to guess if this name is a hedge fund manager or an Arnold Schwarzenegger character.
00:00:23.000 Right.
00:00:23.000 And I'm surprised that we're still able to play this game because we've cycled through so many characters.
00:00:27.000 I know.
00:00:27.000 He has so many movies.
00:00:28.000 He does.
00:00:29.000 He has so many movies.
00:00:31.000 He has almost as many movies as polar bears.
00:00:33.000 Yeah.
00:00:33.000 Yeah.
00:00:34.000 Well, I mean, if you add them all collectively, but there's no single polar bear.
00:00:38.000 There's no Arnold polar bear.
00:00:39.000 There isn't.
00:00:40.000 No.
00:00:40.000 There should be no.
00:00:41.000 Maybe there is.
00:00:41.000 We don't know.
00:00:42.000 No.
00:00:42.000 Like that's.
00:00:43.000 Coca-Cola one, maybe?
00:00:44.000 I mean, I guess.
00:00:45.000 I'm not sure.
00:00:46.000 I don't think you die one.
00:00:48.000 Like, it's cold in here, baby.
00:00:50.000 You don't have to.
00:00:51.000 He did play Mr. Freeze.
00:00:53.000 Coke.
00:00:54.000 Yeah.
00:00:54.000 It's just being a polar bear show.
00:00:55.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:56.000 Freeze.
00:00:56.000 Chill.
00:00:57.000 Get to the polar bear.
00:00:59.000 I'm supposed to be extinct.
00:01:01.000 I'm shivering.
00:01:02.000 I'm still here.
00:01:03.000 Okay.
00:01:04.000 Now you die.
00:01:05.000 Yeah.
00:01:06.000 I'm going to eat you even in your glass.
00:01:08.000 Your glass box, buddy.
00:01:11.000 I could just have thumbs.
00:01:13.000 Someone should just add that polar bear clip that we had in just the polar bear when it's open.
00:01:19.000 So, and the reason is because Arnold always just has like some like, I'm Bob Smith.
00:01:24.000 It's like, ah, we were going to call you Von Saidowitz.
00:01:27.000 No one will ever buy it.
00:01:29.000 So it's hard.
00:01:30.000 It's a very hard game for us to play.
00:01:31.000 Let's guess the very first one.
00:01:33.000 Okay, show us the name.
00:01:34.000 First one.
00:01:36.000 Joe McCann.
00:01:38.000 Yeah.
00:01:38.000 Joe McCann.
00:01:39.000 McCann.
00:01:40.000 McCann, you idiot.
00:01:41.000 McCann.
00:01:43.000 Whoa.
00:01:44.000 Wow, that was weird.
00:01:45.000 This is hard.
00:01:47.000 I apologize.
00:01:48.000 Hey, buddy.
00:01:49.000 I'm a McCam.
00:01:50.000 That seems like something you would say.
00:01:52.000 Joe McCain.
00:01:53.000 McCann's.
00:01:54.000 Yeah.
00:01:54.000 Your father was a mechan, your grandfather was a mechanic.
00:01:57.000 You'll be a mechan.
00:01:58.000 Not a mechanic.
00:02:00.000 What do you think?
00:02:04.000 I feel like this is an Arnold character.
00:02:06.000 It just, it feels so simple.
00:02:08.000 It feels so generic that it screams Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:02:12.000 I don't even know.
00:02:12.000 I don't know.
00:02:14.000 Hey, Joe McCann from McCann and Goldberg's.
00:02:16.000 McCann McCann.
00:02:17.000 That's right.
00:02:17.000 That's what I said.
00:02:18.000 Joe McCann from McKennon Goldberg's.
00:02:20.000 Oh, Nike.
00:02:21.000 Would you say buddy?
00:02:22.000 Is this?
00:02:23.000 Wait, is this Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a hedge fund manager in that's the end of the game, by the way?
00:02:28.000 That's the last question.
00:02:29.000 Yeah.
00:02:30.000 When the tip of it.
00:02:31.000 I say Arnold character.
00:02:32.000 And of course, I have the champions point.
00:02:34.000 So you say hedge fund manager?
00:02:35.000 I say hedge fund manager.
00:02:36.000 All right, hedge fund manager.
00:02:37.000 All right.
00:02:37.000 Arnold, you're on.
00:02:38.000 Give us the answer, Toolman.
00:02:39.000 Yes, there is.
00:02:40.000 We are joined by Joe McCann.
00:02:42.000 Oh, yeah, baby.
00:02:43.000 Asymmetric.
00:02:43.000 No, asymmetric with you.
00:02:47.000 Hey, thanks for having me.
00:02:48.000 Forget it.
00:02:48.000 I'm not going to take my financial advice from a guy with a ponytail.
00:02:53.000 He's like, hi, it's good to be with you.
00:02:58.000 All right.
00:02:59.000 So Josh is tied.
00:03:00.000 We're one and one.
00:03:01.000 Coming for that championship.
00:03:02.000 I don't like that.
00:03:03.000 I don't like that.
00:03:04.000 Well, you know, I'm rooting for you, Josh.
00:03:07.000 Thanks, Gerald.
00:03:08.000 All right, next one, Tourman.
00:03:10.000 Next one.
00:03:13.000 Joseph Schmidt.
00:03:14.000 The weird spelling of Joseph.
00:03:16.000 Yeah, that's.
00:03:17.000 Ooh, because that would be like, I imagine how an Austrian would spell Joseph.
00:03:22.000 Yeah.
00:03:23.000 Yeah.
00:03:23.000 Is it?
00:03:25.000 No need for P and H. That's right.
00:03:27.000 We don't have time.
00:03:28.000 It makes the F sound.
00:03:29.000 Why not make it F?
00:03:30.000 I think it's something, but I don't think it's Austrian.
00:03:32.000 Hi, I'm Joseph.
00:03:33.000 Have you seen my technical dream cult?
00:03:38.000 Fuck you, Donnie Osman.
00:03:40.000 They call me a dreamer.
00:03:42.000 What is that spelling?
00:03:43.000 Noodles?
00:03:43.000 What is that spelling?
00:03:45.000 No, I'm seeing Austrians with that spelling.
00:03:48.000 Really?
00:03:48.000 Yeah.
00:03:49.000 So that makes me think it's not Arnold because he would like.
00:03:52.000 What if it's an early movie before he had the right to be like, no, I want to be named Joe?
00:03:57.000 Yeah.
00:03:58.000 I don't know.
00:03:58.000 That's the whole thing.
00:04:00.000 I don't think he would allow it.
00:04:02.000 Schmidt.
00:04:05.000 Joseph Schmidt.
00:04:05.000 Oh, Schmidt.
00:04:09.000 To be Schmidt in me.
00:04:10.000 No.
00:04:12.000 Get that, Schmidt.
00:04:14.000 Holy Schmidt.
00:04:16.000 I'm going to go Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:04:17.000 You little Schmidt.
00:04:19.000 You little nine-year-old.
00:04:21.000 I Schmidt all over myself.
00:04:26.000 We don't take no Schmidt, right?
00:04:29.000 I'm Cavid and Schmidt.
00:04:30.000 Oh, no.
00:04:32.000 I Schmidt my pants.
00:04:33.000 Hey, Schmidt bag.
00:04:36.000 Schmidt.
00:04:37.000 It's a Schmidt.
00:04:38.000 It seems like it would be like his foe.
00:04:40.000 Like at the very end is less than like, you piss of Schmidt.
00:04:45.000 Smells like Schmidt.
00:04:46.000 Smells like Schmidt.
00:04:47.000 Must be India.
00:04:48.000 What do you think?
00:04:49.000 It's Mr. Schmidt to you.
00:04:53.000 I'm going to go with Arnold again.
00:04:55.000 I was wrong last time.
00:04:56.000 We'll see.
00:04:56.000 You think it's Arnold?
00:04:57.000 What do you think, Josh?
00:04:57.000 I think it's Arnold.
00:04:58.000 It does look like an Austrian spelling.
00:05:00.000 I think this is an early movie.
00:05:01.000 Arnold Torzeneger.
00:05:02.000 I'm going to say, I'm going to say hedge fund manager just because I feel like, unless it is an early movie, he was very adamant about not having Austrian-sounding names.
00:05:11.000 Oh, I didn't know that.
00:05:12.000 Okay.
00:05:12.000 All right.
00:05:12.000 Well, I mean, that's.
00:05:13.000 It's also weird that it's also weird that the character, because you don't usually see the character's name spelled out on screen.
00:05:18.000 No.
00:05:20.000 No, he just says it.
00:05:21.000 Yeah, he says it.
00:05:22.000 He usually says it like a lot.
00:05:24.000 Like, because that's the main thing.
00:05:25.000 He has to go convince me.
00:05:27.000 Remember, like, as I said before, my name is still John.
00:05:31.000 And I'll tell you again later.
00:05:32.000 Do you remember me, Joseph NF?
00:05:35.000 Hey, it's me again, John.
00:05:37.000 In case you forget it.
00:05:38.000 Joseph Schmidt.
00:05:39.000 Schmidt.
00:05:40.000 Joseph Schmidt.
00:05:41.000 His name is my name too.
00:05:43.000 Yes.
00:05:45.000 That's Jigo Heimer, you idiot.
00:05:49.000 Completely different Schmidt.
00:05:51.000 He lives down by the bay.
00:05:55.000 All right.
00:05:55.000 Isaiah Hedgeman.
00:05:56.000 Give us the answer to a man.
00:05:57.000 The answer is.
00:06:01.000 Son of a Schmidt.
00:06:05.000 Oh, wait a second.
00:06:07.000 No, that's a cheat.
00:06:08.000 That's a guest star role.
00:06:09.000 That's not a movie.
00:06:10.000 It's a movie.
00:06:10.000 He wasn't even an actor yet.
00:06:11.000 That was just footage of him as a bodybuilder.
00:06:13.000 No, it's not.
00:06:14.000 Yeah, his name was Joseph Schmidt.
00:06:16.000 That doesn't streets of sin for me.
00:06:17.000 Joseph Schmidt.
00:06:18.000 I'm the founder of Mormonism.
00:06:20.000 It looks like it's a new show.
00:06:22.000 It's season five at night.
00:06:24.000 That is not permissible.
00:06:25.000 You cannot pick guest starring roles where they were just showing him as a bodybuilder.
00:06:29.000 No, it's not a character.
00:06:31.000 He's the guest.
00:06:32.000 The game is Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, not Arnold Schwarzenegger roles in a movie where he stars.
00:06:37.000 Right.
00:06:38.000 It's not a character.
00:06:39.000 He's just playing himself.
00:06:41.000 That is a character.
00:06:43.000 He doesn't have his name Arnold Schwatzene.
00:06:45.000 That's my character.
00:06:46.000 I'm wiping it.
00:06:47.000 I'm wiping it.
00:06:47.000 I'm wiping.
00:06:48.000 Give us a third man.
00:06:50.000 Josh, I have two.
00:06:52.000 I have one.
00:06:52.000 Do you think you know that?
00:06:54.000 I wipe my ass with your points.
00:06:56.000 All right.
00:06:57.000 Felipe Lafont?
00:06:58.000 Felipe Lafont.
00:07:00.000 This seems like it could be a role that meant to go to Jean-Claude Van Damme, but he's like, I could do it.
00:07:05.000 I feel like this is somebody who's.
00:07:06.000 You think you're the only guy who can do the splits?
00:07:08.000 Hey, Arnold, say Felipe.
00:07:11.000 I think it's Philippe.
00:07:12.000 Yeah, Philippe.
00:07:13.000 Philippe, sorry.
00:07:13.000 Philippe.
00:07:14.000 It was after Arnold took the role.
00:07:15.000 Well, Ryan Felipe.
00:07:17.000 Ryan?
00:07:17.000 Is it spelled the same way?
00:07:19.000 I think it is Felipe.
00:07:20.000 I was just messing around.
00:07:21.000 Philippe Smith.
00:07:21.000 Or is it Phil?
00:07:22.000 I think it's Philippe.
00:07:24.000 What do you think there, Josh?
00:07:25.000 This one.
00:07:27.000 If this is all Arnold guest starring roles, I'm going to quit.
00:07:30.000 I don't.
00:07:31.000 Why?
00:07:31.000 Why?
00:07:32.000 Because it's not fair.
00:07:33.000 You can't handle the heat.
00:07:34.000 It's not fair.
00:07:35.000 Guest starring role.
00:07:36.000 Josh has two to one.
00:07:37.000 Because he did a bunch of stuff before he was an actor where they would just have him as a bodybuilder.
00:07:40.000 They'd label him Austrian.
00:07:42.000 Oh, he's not a character.
00:07:43.000 He was active.
00:07:43.000 He had a name.
00:07:45.000 It's active.
00:07:46.000 Fifth IMDb credit.
00:07:47.000 Yes.
00:07:47.000 Come on.
00:07:48.000 It's not like it's nothing.
00:07:50.000 That's pretty something.
00:07:52.000 I think if this is an Arnold character, he goes by Phil.
00:07:57.000 Yeah.
00:07:58.000 Not Felipe.
00:07:59.000 No, me, Philippe.
00:08:00.000 Also known as Phil.
00:08:01.000 Old Phil and Boy.
00:08:02.000 Research is saying that he was the main character in this episode.
00:08:06.000 So it's not a Philip.
00:08:07.000 So there we go.
00:08:07.000 So his name was.
00:08:09.000 I want to see footage of his name being said.
00:08:11.000 Steven, it's okay.
00:08:12.000 You're tied for last round.
00:08:13.000 Yeah, no.
00:08:14.000 I'm wiping.
00:08:14.000 It's not fair.
00:08:15.000 It's not fair.
00:08:16.000 It has to be post-Hercules in New York, where he's like, I'm so much more than a bodybuilder.
00:08:22.000 He just said that present.
00:08:23.000 No, it still isn't counted.
00:08:26.000 He was still competing in the Olympias.
00:08:28.000 You just said before we started this, hey, look, Narcan ads.
00:08:31.000 You just said before this.
00:08:33.000 You just said.
00:08:34.000 Do you have a DCP in on this?
00:08:36.000 You said, how are we still doing this game?
00:08:38.000 We must be running out of characters.
00:08:39.000 Well.
00:08:40.000 Oh, we're running out of characters, though.
00:08:41.000 I hope you have enough room for my fist because I'm about to ram it into your stomach.
00:08:46.000 Well, that was a scary character.
00:08:47.000 Felipe the fist.
00:08:48.000 That's what Felipe the Fist.
00:08:50.000 I'm going to fist you.
00:08:52.000 Oh, geez.
00:08:52.000 I'll fist your mother.
00:08:56.000 You'll never know what hit you until you find out it was my fist.
00:08:59.000 Then you'll say, oh, no, his fist hit me.
00:09:03.000 Oh, no.
00:09:04.000 It doesn't make sense now.
00:09:05.000 It's Mr. Fist.
00:09:10.000 What do you think?
00:09:12.000 I'm going to go with Hedge Fun Manager.
00:09:14.000 It sounds too much.
00:09:15.000 I think Hedge Fun Manager, this is a French finance guy.
00:09:20.000 Yeah.
00:09:20.000 La Von.
00:09:21.000 I can play that too.
00:09:23.000 Yeah.
00:09:24.000 Ha ha.
00:09:25.000 Yeah.
00:09:26.000 You need to.
00:09:27.000 I like cheese.
00:09:28.000 And taggets.
00:09:29.000 And have never won a war.
00:09:30.000 Ha ha.
00:09:31.000 All right.
00:09:32.000 Give us the answer.
00:09:34.000 Today we're going to go interview my very good friend Philippe Lafont, who is the founder and CEO of CO2.
00:09:41.000 Why is he sitting like a gay?
00:09:42.000 It's French.
00:09:43.000 His name's Philippe.
00:09:44.000 His special French.
00:09:46.000 He's literally sitting there.
00:09:47.000 He's like, too much of it.
00:09:51.000 I would like to make you some money.
00:09:53.000 No, he didn't seem like he wants to do business with anybody other than Pete Butgig.
00:09:57.000 Dude, I'm on a roll.
00:09:58.000 I got three points.
00:09:59.000 You do.
00:09:59.000 I have two.
00:10:00.000 You have two.
00:10:00.000 No, we wiped one.
00:10:01.000 So I have two.
00:10:02.000 I have two, two.
00:10:03.000 You don't.
00:10:03.000 No, no, that one doesn't count.
00:10:05.000 We're not doing the bodybuilding.
00:10:05.000 We have three.
00:10:07.000 He will.
00:10:08.000 The rule is the cutoff is that it doesn't count if it happened before Mike Menser almost kicked his ass.
00:10:13.000 Next name.
00:10:14.000 How do you guys do?
00:10:14.000 Did you guess?
00:10:15.000 Did you guess hedge fund manager?
00:10:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:16.000 Oh, okay.
00:10:17.000 We did.
00:10:17.000 We all did.
00:10:18.000 Joe Dowling.
00:10:20.000 This sounds more like his speed.
00:10:22.000 Hey, guys, do you want to go rent some shoes, go dolling?
00:10:26.000 No.
00:10:29.000 We'll put the guardrails up, buddy.
00:10:31.000 It's like his character plays a local hardware store employee.
00:10:34.000 Yeah.
00:10:34.000 Like, I told you that's the wrong rent, you idiot.
00:10:39.000 I said, Phillips, that's a flathead.
00:10:41.000 I don't know.
00:10:42.000 Working at Ace Hardware.
00:10:44.000 I need copper.
00:10:45.000 That's the problem.
00:10:46.000 It's like whenever Arnold, like, he has to be a badass, but they have to make it in so many cases believable where he's like, like, he was never able to be the unwilling hero.
00:10:53.000 No.
00:10:53.000 Like, hey, I'm just a shoe salesman.
00:10:55.000 No.
00:10:56.000 Like, no.
00:10:57.000 He couldn't put on a card.
00:10:58.000 No, he works at Ace Hardware.
00:11:00.000 This ace is the place where Joe Dowling works.
00:11:04.000 I also used to kill people for money and aliens.
00:11:07.000 But that was a lifetime ago.
00:11:08.000 I mean, like.
00:11:08.000 I'm a changed man.
00:11:12.000 Now I sell scrap metal.
00:11:15.000 I rescued my daughter one time.
00:11:16.000 What do you think, Josh, on this one?
00:11:18.000 It's hard, but.
00:11:19.000 It's all scrap metal.
00:11:20.000 I'm going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:11:21.000 This sounds like a Schwartzy name.
00:11:24.000 This does seem very much to me, too.
00:11:26.000 Joe Dowling.
00:11:27.000 You just say it like that.
00:11:27.000 Dowling.
00:11:29.000 Come on.
00:11:30.000 Yeah, Dowling.
00:11:31.000 Do it.
00:11:32.000 To the rescue.
00:11:33.000 Dowl me.
00:11:34.000 What?
00:11:35.000 Ew.
00:11:37.000 Ew.
00:11:39.000 What do you say?
00:11:40.000 Hedge fund manager.
00:11:41.000 Hedge fund manager?
00:11:42.000 I say Arnold, you say Arnold?
00:11:43.000 Yes, sir.
00:11:44.000 Come on, Tulman.
00:11:45.000 Go dowling on me.
00:11:47.000 My first guest today is Joe Dowling, Senior Managing Director and Global Head of Blackstone Asset Management.
00:11:53.000 Joe, welcome.
00:11:54.000 It's me.
00:11:57.000 I wish she was my maid.
00:11:58.000 The best you can look for is a tie.
00:12:01.000 Well, now everyone is tied because that one doesn't count.
00:12:03.000 Josh and I have three.
00:12:04.000 You have two.
00:12:05.000 Even including champion.
00:12:06.000 No, you know, that one doesn't count.
00:12:07.000 So everyone has two.
00:12:09.000 It's a tie across the board.
00:12:10.000 Let him know.
00:12:10.000 It is a tie across the board.
00:12:12.000 You can't take.
00:12:12.000 That's basically a documentary by another name.
00:12:14.000 It's not.
00:12:15.000 It's an episode of the show.
00:12:16.000 All right, that's fine.
00:12:17.000 I fit all your criteria.
00:12:18.000 You can believe whatever you want.
00:12:19.000 But the truth is, I can do whatever I want.
00:12:21.000 What's the fifth one there, Toulmin?
00:12:23.000 The last one.
00:12:24.000 Joe Santos.
00:12:26.000 Oh, man.
00:12:27.000 I'm a saint, you idiot.
00:12:28.000 Every time it says Joe, I just think it's him.
00:12:31.000 It's got to be him.
00:12:32.000 I'm a saint.
00:12:35.000 Yeah.
00:12:36.000 I can't die here.
00:12:38.000 I don't see Santo being, no offense.
00:12:40.000 Hispanic.
00:12:40.000 There's anybody out there whose name's Santo, but I don't see it being a hedge fund manager.
00:12:44.000 Probably not.
00:12:45.000 Probably not.
00:12:46.000 I don't see a Firestein being one either, to be fair.
00:12:48.000 No.
00:12:48.000 Firestein.
00:12:50.000 Maybe.
00:12:51.000 Maybe.
00:12:51.000 Yeah.
00:12:52.000 Santa.
00:12:53.000 I don't like the implication there.
00:12:55.000 No.
00:12:56.000 I don't know what you mean.
00:12:57.000 I think.
00:12:58.000 Well, Firestein, you can sell good tires.
00:13:01.000 Yes.
00:13:01.000 Yeah.
00:13:02.000 Tires.
00:13:03.000 Great tire shops.
00:13:03.000 Those people make a ton of money.
00:13:04.000 Very little-known shop.
00:13:05.000 Huge family.
00:13:06.000 Firestein's.
00:13:07.000 Yeah.
00:13:08.000 What?
00:13:08.000 Nothing.
00:13:11.000 Nothing to do with this.
00:13:12.000 I think Gerald's cheating.
00:13:14.000 No.
00:13:14.000 I think he's cheating.
00:13:15.000 I think he deserves negative points.
00:13:16.000 No.
00:13:17.000 Literally.
00:13:18.000 Look, I get an idea, but I get that you feel good.
00:13:20.000 You've got some momentum that you got to leg up, but I think we have to do the right thing and acknowledge that secrets are not allowed in the studio, and Gerald deserves this.
00:13:27.000 I will say secrets are not allowed in the studio.
00:13:30.000 Yeah.
00:13:30.000 And if we're going to follow the rules, we have to follow the rules as they were set before we play games such as Hedge Fund Manager or Arnold Swiss area character.
00:13:37.000 So I have three points.
00:13:38.000 Gerald now has two points.
00:13:40.000 No, he has the.
00:13:40.000 You have two points.
00:13:41.000 He has one point.
00:13:42.000 You have two, and I have two points.
00:13:43.000 No, I have three.
00:13:43.000 I'm glad that you agree.
00:13:44.000 It's appreciated backing me up.
00:13:47.000 But Gerald definitely, look, we can settle the rest of it.
00:13:49.000 We'll settle up the rest of it, but we both agree that Gerald deserves a negative point at least.
00:13:53.000 Because research sent me a story that's funny.
00:13:56.000 Well, you can't, you wouldn't know funny if it bit you in the ass.
00:13:58.000 That's true, but I think it's funny.
00:14:00.000 I want him to tell me what's humorous.
00:14:03.000 Lovely guests who see a monkey with a funny hat.
00:14:07.000 Sometimes it's Josanto.
00:14:09.000 That's what it's not.
00:14:10.000 Santos.
00:14:11.000 I told you Josanto never smiled.
00:14:13.000 See, I don't know how I don't like how it sounds out in.
00:14:15.000 I don't do a great Arnold, but I don't like how it sounds.
00:14:19.000 Josanto.
00:14:20.000 Santo.
00:14:21.000 Now he's doing Hispanic names.
00:14:23.000 He does it all.
00:14:24.000 Santos Freshen.
00:14:25.000 I can do all life.
00:14:26.000 I'm a multifaceted actor.
00:14:27.000 Riva, Riva.
00:14:30.000 Rudd?
00:14:30.000 It's Caliente.
00:14:32.000 You know what?
00:14:33.000 Pablo Francisco did the Little Tortilla Boy.
00:14:35.000 That's right.
00:14:36.000 And I had a comedian in Montreal.
00:14:40.000 And I thought he was funny.
00:14:41.000 I had him open for me.
00:14:42.000 He did that entire bit verbatim.
00:14:44.000 And I had no, because at that point, I had no idea who Pablo Francisco was.
00:14:46.000 He did it verbatim.
00:14:47.000 Even like, Arnold is a little tortilla boy.
00:14:49.000 Dude, there was a guy I did.
00:14:50.000 I was doing a competition in Seattle, Seattle International Comedy Competition.
00:14:53.000 The guy did a two-minute version of that joke.
00:14:55.000 Yeah.
00:14:56.000 The same exact joke.
00:14:57.000 He did the exact, he even did the, he even did the Keanu Reeves.
00:14:59.000 No, all this stuff.
00:15:00.000 Oh, Keanu Reeves, movie trailer voice, Arnold.
00:15:03.000 Oh, my God.
00:15:03.000 Little Tortilla Boy.
00:15:04.000 And you have to understand, it was a mistake, but at the time, I thought it was funny, just like anyone would if you saw Pablo Francisco do it for the first time.
00:15:10.000 So I was like, oh, this guy's pretty funny.
00:15:11.000 That's a creative bit.
00:15:12.000 And so I put him on some shows.
00:15:14.000 Like he would open for me every now.
00:15:15.000 And then I found out all of this was ripped off.
00:15:18.000 And you just realize there's some people who have no problem lying.
00:15:21.000 They're just like, it's just fine.
00:15:22.000 I'll just steal it.
00:15:22.000 I'll just say it's mine.
00:15:23.000 You're like, but that's entirely.
00:15:25.000 I called the guy out in this case a competition.
00:15:26.000 I called the guy out told the talent booker.
00:15:28.000 And he's like, ah, sometimes it happens.
00:15:30.000 Yeah, I know.
00:15:31.000 Like, what?
00:15:31.000 Sometimes it happens.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, in music, it's a lawsuit.
00:15:33.000 In comedy, it's just like, well, whatever, man.
00:15:35.000 Crowd likes him.
00:15:36.000 Oh, you play.
00:15:38.000 All right, Joe Santo.
00:15:38.000 What do you say, Gerald?
00:15:41.000 Arnold for the win.
00:15:43.000 What do you say?
00:15:44.000 I'm going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:15:48.000 Best you can do is tie.
00:15:50.000 I feel like it's a zag because no one would expect Arnold to be playing a Hispanic, but I'm really hoping that we see him in a Sanchez mustache.
00:15:57.000 So I'll say Arnold just because I'm hoping to put a tan.
00:16:01.000 Yeah.
00:16:01.000 I'm like a heavy bronzer.
00:16:03.000 All right.
00:16:03.000 We all say Arnold Toolman.
00:16:05.000 What's the answer?
00:16:05.000 Which means that the answer is.
00:16:10.000 I want to stay hungry.
00:16:11.000 Hey, Sako, when are you going to show me what you got?
00:16:16.000 I'll show you what I've got.
00:16:18.000 Lots of half-naked men.
00:16:19.000 Show me what you have.
00:16:20.000 Gross.
00:16:21.000 This bodybuilding is so good.
00:16:23.000 I win the first time.
00:16:24.000 All right.
00:16:24.000 Well, great.
00:16:25.000 Champions Point.
00:16:27.000 It's been a draw.
00:16:28.000 We're going to have to actually go back to the tail.
00:16:29.000 We're going to have to go back to the replay and see about the rules with the semi-documentaries.
00:16:34.000 Tell this has been Arnold Hodge Fund Manager.
00:16:35.000 I'm sorry.
00:16:36.000 Disappointing.
00:16:36.000 This is a chopper!
00:16:38.000 Hasta la vista, baby.
00:16:45.000 All right.
00:16:45.000 Since you're passing notes in the class, what's the hilarious story?
00:16:48.000 It better be funny.
00:16:51.000 Don't throw it up yet.
00:16:52.000 This better be R-O-T F-U-L-K-M-A-O.
00:16:58.000 Hold on.
00:16:58.000 So chat, just bear with me.
00:17:00.000 Can you mute our mics real quick?
00:17:02.000 Leave the cameras on.
00:17:03.000 Mute the mics.
00:17:04.000 Mute the mics.
00:17:04.000 Okay.
00:17:16.000 We need like a side.
00:17:18.000 Somebody in chat reads lips.
00:17:20.000 I know.
00:17:20.000 Did you hear?
00:17:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:22.000 I think.
00:17:22.000 All right, so, you know, hey, look, hey, I'm the sidekick over here, dude.
00:17:26.000 I think it's funny.
00:17:27.000 So Macron has obviously put out the lawsuit for Candace.
00:17:32.000 Right.
00:17:32.000 We've covered that before.
00:17:34.000 That it happened.
00:17:35.000 And Candace actually saw a video.
00:17:36.000 She went on her stream and basically said that if it goes to trial and they go through Discovery and they do all this stuff, it's going to cost about $5 million.
00:17:42.000 They said they don't have that, which is strange.
00:17:46.000 I guess you just don't want to spend the money.
00:17:47.000 That's fine.
00:17:48.000 I get that.
00:17:49.000 It's expensive.
00:17:50.000 But she's selling merch now to cover the cost of the lawsuit specifically.
00:17:55.000 Ooh, that's very ill-advised because that will be brought up.
00:18:00.000 No, that will be brought up in court.
00:18:01.000 Yes.
00:18:02.000 Where it removes free Macron, I think is what it is.
00:18:05.000 Is it Free Macron or Free?
00:18:07.000 Pull up.
00:18:08.000 Okay.
00:18:08.000 All right.
00:18:08.000 Let's see.
00:18:09.000 Oh, it's a video.
00:18:10.000 And this lawsuit, we got an estimate this weekend from a legal team.
00:18:15.000 It is going to cost us millions.
00:18:18.000 Sell that necklace.
00:18:19.000 I don't have that money.
00:18:20.000 I really don't.
00:18:22.000 Oh.
00:18:23.000 I got to tell you, like, the estimate that we got, and I want to be clear: this is if it goes all the way through.
00:18:28.000 So they said, like, from start to finish, if it, if this doesn't, if they don't drop this at some point, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:35.000 How much is it going to cost you just to get through the deposition phase?
00:18:37.000 How much is going to cost you all the way through?
00:18:39.000 And they are estimating $5 million.
00:18:41.000 It's a lot of money.
00:18:42.000 And we do not have that money just laying around.
00:18:48.000 Oh, someone else put this up.
00:18:49.000 Yeah.
00:18:50.000 I'll side in.
00:18:53.000 So I thought we could actually sell some t-shirts.
00:18:56.000 I just picked it up.
00:18:57.000 I think it's that your house has one house.
00:19:01.000 One of the London house.
00:19:02.000 You know what it means?
00:19:03.000 Like hashtag free emanual.
00:19:04.000 It's like subtle enough.
00:19:05.000 You sell the London house.
00:19:06.000 That's four lawsuits you can afford.
00:19:07.000 Yeah.
00:19:08.000 We know it's up.
00:19:09.000 We know it's going on in France.
00:19:10.000 Somebody rescue Emmanuel Macron.
00:19:13.000 I'm not kidding.
00:19:14.000 The estimate is millions of dollars.
00:19:16.000 And this.
00:19:17.000 So that was, what is it, Milk Bar TV?
00:19:19.000 Credit to him for putting that video together.
00:19:21.000 I don't know.
00:19:22.000 I think that's the account that you can follow.
00:19:24.000 He does a good job of kind of following this case right now.
00:19:28.000 Holy cow.
00:19:30.000 Listen, selling merch, there's nothing wrong with it.
00:19:31.000 By the way, go to our merch shop right now, crowdershop.com.
00:19:35.000 And you won't see any lawsuit here.
00:19:37.000 Yeah, no lawsuit to cover anything like that.
00:19:40.000 But selling merch, when you're.
00:19:41.000 We constantly have lawsuits, and it's dealt into our costs.
00:19:44.000 And I don't think we've ever sold merch around a lawsuit specifically.
00:19:47.000 I don't think we've talked about like, hey, if you want to support us, subscribe.
00:19:50.000 Hey, there are only two ways to support us.
00:19:52.000 And it's Mug Club and merch.
00:19:54.000 And it's always been that.
00:19:54.000 Well, here's the thing: you sell the merch, you make the money.
00:19:56.000 Now you have the money.
00:19:57.000 If you have a lawsuit, you pay for the lawsuit with the money you have.
00:20:00.000 If it came from merch, fine.
00:20:01.000 But going out and starting a merch campaign to fund your lawsuit.
00:20:07.000 Well, here's the other thing.
00:20:08.000 It's kind of crazy, too.
00:20:09.000 Look, let me be really clear.
00:20:11.000 If she is right, and if all those pictures that were sent directly from the Macron family and attorneys of Bridget, you know, as a child, of Bridget at her wedding with her first husband, who Candace said didn't exist, of Bridget with her brother, who Candace said she actually was in real life.
00:20:26.000 If the dozens of pictures and the newspaper clippings and the documents, if they're all forged and they're all fake, then I hope Candace wins and I hope she takes them for everything they're worth.
00:20:35.000 If what she says is true.
00:20:37.000 And I don't like the idea of someone silencing somebody just for expressing an opinion.
00:20:42.000 When you do a multi-part series making definitive factual claims and double down on it, they're not going to stop if they're telling the truth, the Macron's.
00:20:54.000 It's going to be expensive.
00:20:55.000 But Candace would have had to know that going into this.
00:20:59.000 When she said, I will stake my reputation on this a long time ago.
00:21:03.000 Well, you knew that this could be a lawsuit.
00:21:05.000 So here's my prediction: either if I had to predict it goes through and she probably loses, but the damages would be something that you can't really necessarily recoup.
00:21:15.000 It would be a moral victory.
00:21:16.000 Or she concedes or settles and says that we didn't raise enough.
00:21:22.000 That's probably the most likely scenario.
00:21:24.000 I will say this: if I'm a good lawyer on the other side, at some point, she might translate this has gotten to be too expensive.
00:21:30.000 And you could argue that it's unfair.
00:21:32.000 Basically, fighting a lawsuit against royalty, and they have a never-ending supply of funds or the lawyer to convince the judge would go, well, didn't you raise a bunch of money in your campaign, your campaign?
00:21:45.000 And aren't you the self-proclaimed most-watched show, whatever?
00:21:49.000 You've had growth.
00:21:50.000 And that's what they would bring up.
00:21:52.000 And even more is, well, she's continued to profit off of this libel through this case, as seen by selling this merch.
00:22:03.000 Like, it's just, I can't imagine that she is talking with any or has any actual at this point.
00:22:09.000 She said she spoke with a legal team who gave her an estimate.
00:22:13.000 I've had a lawyer on retainer.
00:22:19.000 Gosh, I don't know, since 2014, 2015, and that retainer.
00:22:24.000 And then we've only added more, like it's one of our biggest line items here because we know it's unfortunately the cost of Doing business in this realm of work.
00:22:34.000 If someone doesn't have that and hasn't prepared for that, I would suggest that maybe it's disingenuous.
00:22:40.000 Like, you know, that's going to be part and parcel of being this.
00:22:44.000 So if she doesn't have a lawyer already on retainer, that doesn't seem like she's serious about this.
00:22:48.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:22:50.000 I mean, I don't have a problem with somebody selling merchandise.
00:22:53.000 Even if you want to do it as a campaign, like, hey, help me.
00:22:55.000 No, no, it's helpful.
00:22:57.000 It's the cry poor right before it, because that's dishonest.
00:23:01.000 Just be honest about what you want people to do.
00:23:03.000 If I came forward and said, hey, guys, we want you to go and buy this shirt to help us fund XYZ, Mud Club Undercover, or The Election Night, or our fight against YouTube, or whatever it may be, fine.
00:23:14.000 But I'm like, hey, guys, we don't really have that much money.
00:23:17.000 And all of a sudden, like, good on Milk Bar for bringing that out.
00:23:20.000 Like, here's house, house, house, house, house, house, house, property.
00:23:23.000 And I swear to you, I thought, and we might have to sell.
00:23:25.000 And I thought, oh, one of the properties, just like you thought, Joshua.
00:23:28.000 One.
00:23:28.000 One of the many, many properties.
00:23:30.000 No, merch.
00:23:31.000 To do this.
00:23:32.000 It's just, it's a very dishonest thing to do.
00:23:33.000 And Candace has a number of other problems in this.
00:23:36.000 One is with the AI claim.
00:23:37.000 So she used AI on the pictures to see if the pictures that they gave were actually of this person.
00:23:42.000 And AI came back and the first one she did, and Milkbar did this as well.
00:23:45.000 So it's on his channel.
00:23:47.000 Basically saying, yep, AI is saying most likely not the same person.
00:23:51.000 Yep, not the same person.
00:23:52.000 I don't know if it was a new set of pictures or what, but she did a more recent episode where she talked about it.
00:23:56.000 And like AI is basically saying, most likely the same person.
00:24:00.000 And she goes, well, you can't trust AI because it's been.
00:24:05.000 I'm not even kidding.
00:24:06.000 I'm not going to.
00:24:06.000 You can't trust AI.
00:24:07.000 Look, it fed up my t-shirt that I'm selling.
00:24:10.000 And in one of her videos, she was talking about the teeth of the person.
00:24:14.000 This can't be the same person.
00:24:15.000 Look at those teeth.
00:24:16.000 That's not the same.
00:24:17.000 You mean the easiest thing to fix?
00:24:18.000 Yes.
00:24:18.000 That every single housewife is a line.
00:24:21.000 You can do crowns.
00:24:22.000 You can do caps.
00:24:23.000 You can do braces.
00:24:23.000 You can knock it out with a sledgehammer.
00:24:25.000 You can shoot it out with a BB gun and get a new one, Gerald.
00:24:27.000 You know this all too well.
00:24:28.000 100% true.
00:24:29.000 If you wait a while, though.
00:24:30.000 She's probably had her own teeth.
00:24:31.000 She's shame publicly.
00:24:33.000 She's fundamentally dishonest.
00:24:35.000 She's always playing victim too.
00:24:37.000 Speaking of her multiple properties, she's out there going like talking about how the Macron's hired investigators.
00:24:43.000 And she's like, oh, yeah, they hired investigators.
00:24:45.000 Really?
00:24:46.000 They're investigating a mother who does a podcast in her basement?
00:24:50.000 Wow.
00:24:52.000 What victim do you think you are?
00:24:55.000 Anytime you get in trouble, oh, but I'm a mother.
00:24:58.000 Yeah, she doesn't have to.
00:24:59.000 How dare you speak to a mother that way?
00:25:01.000 I am a god.
00:25:05.000 I have children in my eyes.
00:25:07.000 She'll do that too and say, I want to debate.
00:25:08.000 I'll debate anybody you put in front of me.
00:25:11.000 And then she'll platform people who some folks might view as extremists.
00:25:14.000 And I don't have a problem with platforming anyone.
00:25:15.000 She goes, well, I want to talk to everybody.
00:25:16.000 I'm not afraid to platform somebody.
00:25:18.000 But then when it's someone she doesn't want to debate, she goes, oh, I wouldn't.
00:25:21.000 That person's disgusting because we called her to debate.
00:25:24.000 Specifically, there'd be nothing to debate now, but it was the Iranian strike issue.
00:25:28.000 Well, actually, it was before that.
00:25:29.000 It was the impeached Donald Trump issue.
00:25:31.000 Yeah.
00:25:33.000 And look, I mean, when the FBI, when the mayor of Nashville said they were going to be looking into a lawsuit and the FBI would be investigating us, it's just a different approach.
00:25:39.000 We said, come get it.
00:25:41.000 Yeah.
00:25:42.000 Come get it.
00:25:43.000 But we'd already talked to the legal team before putting the information.
00:25:46.000 Yeah.
00:25:46.000 We also had evidence.
00:25:48.000 Well, yeah.
00:25:48.000 There was actual evidence.
00:25:50.000 Which she claimed was not evidence because she had evidence, which she didn't have.
00:25:53.000 So, yeah, look, it's not about right versus left.
00:25:55.000 In this case, it's about, look, truth does matter and it's fundamentally dishonest on many levels.
00:26:00.000 Maybe she doesn't have the cash in a liquid form right now.
00:26:04.000 That's possible.
00:26:05.000 But you don't need to have it in a liquid form if it's just a projection of the law.
00:26:08.000 I could turn that necklace into liquid gold pretty quickly.
00:26:12.000 Unless it's all fake gold.
00:26:15.000 Like the guy in the MRI machine.
00:26:17.000 Maybe she's paying too high of an interest rate on her mortgage.
00:26:20.000 American Finance.
00:26:22.000 Hey, it's Tuesday.
00:26:24.000 They didn't get a spot today.
00:26:24.000 No.
00:26:25.000 Who was the spot today?
00:26:26.000 The spot today was Tex Network.
00:26:26.000 Tax Network USA.
00:26:27.000 Yeah, Tax Network USA.
00:26:28.000 Maybe she's getting raised.
00:26:29.000 Maybe she's cold, but the IRS.
00:26:30.000 Well, considering their net worth, I bet you they spend a lot in taxes.
00:26:33.000 And if they could, I bet you they could find a little bit of dough there.
00:26:36.000 A little bit of wiggle room right there.
00:26:37.000 You can go to Tax Network USA.
00:26:39.000 If you go to Tax Network USA and you're having tax problems, they will tell you to escape the U.S. and go to your $20 million mansion in England.
00:26:46.000 And don't say someone who's looking like a woman-ish has a penis.
00:26:51.000 I can't say looks like a woman because she does look very, you know.
00:26:55.000 She doesn't look like a woman.
00:26:56.000 Not.
00:26:56.000 She's very unfortunate looking.
00:26:57.000 And I will say this, look, if she is, here's the thing.
00:27:00.000 And she's a pedophile.
00:27:01.000 If she is unfortunate looking, but she's actually a woman, that's real.
00:27:08.000 It's also just seriously mean to run it.
00:27:11.000 That is bullying, running a campaign on someone.
00:27:13.000 And I get you're punching up, but still it's like, why do this?
00:27:16.000 So here's the point that is not in dispute.
00:27:18.000 The age.
00:27:19.000 14 and 30 something, I think, at the time.
00:27:22.000 Yes.
00:27:23.000 That would have been, if your cause, and I really am trying to wrap my head around this, because either like Candace has like some like information that we all don't have and she's playing 8D chess and she's going to come out on top of this or there's several thousand holes in the case that you know any one of which you could just poke and go okay that's the case but if you're trying to make the point like she's kind of claimed like we don't need this kind of debauchery in government we don't need this kind of okay fine sure you could have made that claim with the age gap and the fact that he was a student at the time and all of that that would have been salacious enough she has talked no i know but
00:27:52.000 That could have been your point.
00:27:54.000 Why does it matter?
00:27:54.000 On top of that, I mean, yes, it's worse, but what is the, is it worse to be trans or a pedophile?
00:28:01.000 Because this is the thing, Candace, and look, there are people, and we've talked about this quite a bit, there are people in here who are not in the content business, they're in the click business.
00:28:07.000 And there's a very big difference.
00:28:09.000 And so for her, it's, wait, something's popular, I need to one-up it for a click.
00:28:13.000 So for example, the Nashville Manifesto, and we showed it to you where there were plans, where it was these Christians, these crackers, these people who I want to kill, right?
00:28:19.000 We're going, okay, and this was withheld from you.
00:28:21.000 That's important.
00:28:22.000 You should know that, especially because it also tied into some other shootings where information was being withheld.
00:28:28.000 And then that obviously was a big story, went viral.
00:28:34.000 And Candace being someone who's in the business of clicks, not content, goes, actually, that's not true.
00:28:40.000 She was sexually molested by her father.
00:28:43.000 And I have an inside source.
00:28:45.000 Now, none of that was true.
00:28:46.000 None of that was true.
00:28:47.000 It wasn't even remotely true.
00:28:48.000 From was that the public?
00:28:53.000 Yeah, Tennessee Star is the paper.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, who did great legwork.
00:28:56.000 According to the officials of the city, according to the documents that we had, according to the police, according to the FBI, everyone who had a scan at those documents, there was no evidence of it whatsoever.
00:29:09.000 But it doesn't matter to her because she goes, oh, wait, this is getting clicks, this actual content, which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce just that one piece of content and research and making sure that we crossed our T's, dotted our I's.
00:29:20.000 What do I?
00:29:21.000 Let me just add a lie.
00:29:23.000 She was raped by her dad.
00:29:24.000 Click, click, click, click, click.
00:29:25.000 That's great if you're in the click business.
00:29:27.000 Not great if you're in the content business because it actually hurts those who create content, who go out and do the legwork.
00:29:33.000 And that's why you get a lot of people.
00:29:35.000 It's easy for people to go jealous.
00:29:36.000 It's just like a comedian who works really, really hard and crafts a really good bit and then sees it get ripped off by someone who's already on television.
00:29:42.000 Yeah.
00:29:43.000 It's like, well, that's great if you're in the comedy money business, but not great if you're in the comedy writing business.
00:29:48.000 She did that too with the Dennis Leary helmet joke.
00:29:51.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:29:52.000 Literally, I think that was the name of his album or it was his tagline.
00:29:55.000 Put a, what was it?
00:29:56.000 Put a, get a helmet, get a helmet.
00:29:57.000 Yeah, life's hard, get a helmet.
00:29:59.000 And then she used that and sold it as merch.
00:30:01.000 You know, so it's like, you know, at a certain point.
00:30:03.000 And you know what's funny is, is that from a Dennis Leary movie or is that from a stand-up?
00:30:07.000 Stand-up.
00:30:07.000 Oh, okay.
00:30:08.000 Yeah, it was from a stand-up.
00:30:09.000 Yeah, life's hard, get a helmet.
00:30:10.000 So anyway.
00:30:12.000 All right, let's grab some chats.
00:30:13.000 Is that something he took from?
00:30:14.000 From what?
00:30:16.000 Bill Hicks.
00:30:16.000 Oh, well, he took a lot from Bill Hicks too.
00:30:18.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that too, where it's like, you know, he did it and then he got ripped off.
00:30:22.000 So who knows?
00:30:22.000 It could be the inception of ripping off material where she's in a parallel universe ripping off Bill Hicks.
00:30:27.000 How fun is that?
00:30:29.000 And McCrone has a penis.
00:30:31.000 Allegedly.
00:30:32.000 Bridget.
00:30:33.000 Wait, what about him?
00:30:33.000 No, I'm saying that's a parallel universe is what I'm saying.
00:30:35.000 At least one of them has a penis.
00:30:37.000 Yeah, I'm not saying it's real.
00:30:39.000 I'm saying it's, you know, like the Mexican Spider-Man.
00:30:40.000 It's a parallel universe.
00:30:41.000 Let's grab a chat.
00:30:41.000 All right.
00:30:43.000 First chat from Newcastle777.
00:30:45.000 Question for the crew.
00:30:46.000 I'm a young guy and Big Don is about all I know for a political climate.
00:30:51.000 How different is it from the early 2000s?
00:30:53.000 And do you think it'll revert back to normal from the Trump era?
00:30:57.000 No, here's the thing.
00:30:59.000 It's not.
00:30:59.000 In some ways, it's very similar, but there are some differences.
00:31:02.000 I would say going back to the 2000s, it was a comedic witch hunt where George Bush, it was just open season.
00:31:08.000 Hey, what an idiot.
00:31:09.000 Dumb texting, right?
00:31:10.000 Every comic had bits about how George Bush was stupid and Republicans were dumb.
00:31:15.000 I mean, you couldn't find any.
00:31:16.000 There were no comedians who were even remotely right leaning.
00:31:19.000 It just wasn't a thing.
00:31:19.000 And if they were, it was people like Nick DiPaolo who you didn't hear a whole lot about.
00:31:25.000 everything that we know, including the people at, what was it, the Tennessee Star, so so so i will say what is similar is they they called george bush a nazi we went through that george hw bush a nazi ronald regan a nazi nixon a nazi i mean you can actually find you know posters and albums with them and a swastika on them and now they'll tell you like well these were just people with whom we had uh fundamental differences uh but we were worthy adversaries.
00:31:46.000 But it's very different because Donald Trump is a fascist.
00:31:48.000 It's like, no, no, no, you, you guys accused all these people of war crimes.
00:31:53.000 You guys accused all these people of being Nazis.
00:31:55.000 So that's not new.
00:31:57.000 The shifting dynamic, I will say, is the default position was always liberal.
00:32:01.000 And I talked about this quite a bit for millennials.
00:32:03.000 Everything you watched, everything you listened to, every TV show, every movie, every band that you listened to by design, and of course, if you went to public school, if you went to college, told you to be a liberal by default.
00:32:14.000 You would have had to be really proactive in being a conservative to be an American raised in public schools, go to college and listen to any mainstream bands or television.
00:32:22.000 That's different now because of what was referred to as new media or social media, online media, because you can hear many voices for the same reason that you see top 40 is never going to have the same amount of play and reach that it used to because people are so fractured.
00:32:36.000 They all have kind of their niche, just like Johnny Carson used to get, what, 25, 30 million people watching some nights.
00:32:41.000 And now these late night hosts are lucky to get 2 million.
00:32:45.000 So people are more fractured.
00:32:46.000 And so you see, I would say, more offshoots like a libertarian, of like, you know, the left is still completely socialist, I would say.
00:32:53.000 And I will say this, the big change is that the left has gone very, very, very far left, where it's pretty much like you're not going to have a Clinton Gingrich working together on some kind of a budget.
00:33:03.000 It's just anything Trump says bad, anything Trump says is evil.
00:33:08.000 And I will say they've gotten a lot more aggressive.
00:33:10.000 And I think a big reason for that is because they've been losing their grip of control.
00:33:16.000 To sort of encapsulate it, you never would have seen CNN, you know, falsifying, changing the color palette of a Joe Rogan selfie video and saying that he's eating horsepace because there would have been no one who had the kind of impact that Joe Rogan did, right?
00:33:31.000 It was just like CNN would be like, why are you even talking about some blogger?
00:33:33.000 Who cares?
00:33:34.000 We're the ones who have the microphone.
00:33:36.000 They're desperate because people like us have a microphone every day.
00:33:41.000 There are tons of people now who have a microphone that's, by the way, reaches far more people than them.
00:33:44.000 So I will say they've gotten more aggressive.
00:33:47.000 The left has gone far left.
00:33:49.000 The right was going pretty moderately left and now is recentered on some issues, I would say.
00:33:56.000 But I don't know that it's all that different.
00:33:58.000 It's always been incredibly polarized.
00:33:59.000 Yeah, and I think you're just more aware of it now.
00:34:01.000 Yeah.
00:34:02.000 Right.
00:34:02.000 Because you've got all of this stuff in front of you with the social media stuff.
00:34:05.000 You've got all the news stuff that we, you know, were being developed at the time, but early 2000s, late 90s.
00:34:10.000 I mean, you didn't have nearly the proliferation of cable news networks like you do now.
00:34:14.000 Right.
00:34:14.000 So I think just access to information and also what is normal in politics, especially when you're talking about the polar, like the opposites in these parties.
00:34:23.000 Like there is no normal when it comes to the issue of abortion.
00:34:25.000 It's just Republicans kind of been getting screwed on this issue for a long time.
00:34:29.000 Right.
00:34:29.000 There's no normal when it comes to how things are run fiscally.
00:34:32.000 Like I know we have deficits and things like that, but what we choose to spend that money on.
00:34:36.000 Right.
00:34:36.000 And obviously we both need to move away from deficit spending, but we have very, very different spending priorities.
00:34:41.000 Right.
00:34:42.000 There's nothing normal about just going, oh yeah, yeah, that's totally fine.
00:34:45.000 I think it's fine for us to be in a little bit, like I would rather be in a phase where we are at a little bit more aware, a little bit more at odds, so that we can kind of work out what we really want.
00:34:57.000 I don't want to just continue to go down this road of, wait a minute, 30 years have gone by and look how far we are from the ideal that we started with.
00:35:05.000 I would also say there's less, funny enough, you talk about how polarized it is.
00:35:08.000 I would say there's less stigma being a conservative.
00:35:10.000 I mean, in the early 2000s, if you just said like, well, actually, I don't say, I'm actually glad that George Bush won over Al Gore.
00:35:17.000 You know, for as flawed as he was as a president, people are like, oh, what, what?
00:35:20.000 If you were under the age of 30, no one could believe that that was the case.
00:35:24.000 Whereas I think now they've accused so many people of being Nazis, where you have, I see young men that are just like, yeah, my God, screw you, because they don't care anymore.
00:35:31.000 So I think it's fallen on deaf ears.
00:35:33.000 One thing I will say, I talked about this with Razor Fist.
00:35:37.000 At least on YouTube in 2008, 2009, liberals there, because they were also alternative media.
00:35:44.000 If you were to have a debate with some mainstream sort of broadcasters and new media, they would present some pretty good arguments, right?
00:35:51.000 They could kind of tie you in some pretzels.
00:35:54.000 I don't think they really stand the test of time.
00:35:56.000 But now the left has, I mean, for example, on CNN, Why wouldn't they have?
00:36:01.000 They don't call me.
00:36:02.000 Why wouldn't they have all the mainstream conservative people you know about who are far more popular than CNN?
00:36:07.000 Right?
00:36:07.000 They would benefit from the ratings boost.
00:36:11.000 They don't even make the calls.
00:36:12.000 Their belief is completely shut out this voice because they've discounted us as Nazis.
00:36:18.000 And so they're very insulated and they really aren't able to argue their points the same way that they were in the early 2000s.
00:36:25.000 Because at least then they could say, well, George Bush is president, so we're the opposition party.
00:36:29.000 They have been in control of the culture and media and entertainment for so long that they definitely have become soft.
00:36:36.000 And I'm often very shocked as to how weak the arguments are coming from people who you would expect to be more formidable than you're seeing.
00:36:44.000 That's a big change.
00:36:45.000 I also think that with the left going more far left, I think that a lot of people that would normally vote left or vote Democrat are okay with saying and doing the opposite of what the left is doing.
00:36:58.000 Like, for instance, I have a lot of friends that are either military veterans or comedians, and they're on the left, but they voted for Trump.
00:37:06.000 Or they didn't vote for Trump or they didn't vote at all.
00:37:09.000 Or they're like, ah, geez, I don't know who to vote for.
00:37:12.000 Kamala sucks.
00:37:13.000 This is terrible.
00:37:14.000 Or they go, yeah, I voted for Kamala, but what Trump's doing is great.
00:37:18.000 I had a friend yesterday.
00:37:19.000 He goes, Trump talked about legalizing marijuana.
00:37:23.000 My company took a 50% increase in value.
00:37:26.000 Wow.
00:37:27.000 He's like, that's pretty good.
00:37:28.000 He said, this is great.
00:37:29.000 This is great.
00:37:30.000 I don't like what he's doing here.
00:37:31.000 What the hell is this?
00:37:32.000 Yeah.
00:37:32.000 And I think that people are more willing to say that.
00:37:35.000 They're more willing to go, hey, I really don't like this guy.
00:37:38.000 Yeah.
00:37:39.000 But he was a better option.
00:37:41.000 Yep.
00:37:42.000 Because they put out this terrible candidate pretty much three elections in a row.
00:37:48.000 And I just hope that my hope is that those people finish the circle and go, okay, but how did we get to Kamala?
00:37:53.000 How did we get to Biden?
00:37:54.000 In other words, this didn't just happen.
00:37:56.000 What was happening in 2000?
00:37:57.000 And I think it's forced a lot of young people to re-examine Barack Obama because it was a period of hero worship.
00:38:01.000 Oh, man.
00:38:02.000 And now people are going, oh, that's where the start of a lot.
00:38:05.000 And I mean, really intrusive foundational changes to the fabric of America and our form of governance started with Barack Obama.
00:38:13.000 The people who said he was a socialist and a radical were absolutely right.
00:38:16.000 And I think now people are reexamining it, going, oh, yeah, that's true.
00:38:20.000 We should have seen that coming.
00:38:21.000 So, yeah, I think there's a lot of good, but I don't think it's all that different.
00:38:24.000 They will always accuse you of being a Nazi, being a racist.
00:38:27.000 The other thing, too, that I will say is we have results from it.
00:38:29.000 You have to understand that when we were watching, like, for example, Leonardo Caprio narrating the whatever it was, they were talking about the climate thing where they talked about how they couldn't even film because there wasn't enough snow.
00:38:38.000 And you look at people like Michael Moore and you look at an inconvenient truth.
00:38:44.000 These predictions were all being made.
00:38:46.000 And so many of them, they put a timer on it, and time's up.
00:38:51.000 And now a lot of people have seen predictions not come to be.
00:38:54.000 Also, on the positive, they've seen the Department of Education fail abysmally.
00:38:58.000 They've seen the welfare state not work.
00:39:00.000 They've seen the results of Section 8 housing.
00:39:02.000 And then even you accelerate it in COVID, where people are told, if you homeschool your kids, you're just going to be social retards.
00:39:08.000 And people see the results.
00:39:10.000 They see, wait a second, public school is not working all that well.
00:39:12.000 And actually, the kids who were homeschooled fared better and they weren't set back nearly as much.
00:39:16.000 So I think people, even if they're inherently left because they think it's more empathetic, are able to look at the results and say, okay, well, this just doesn't really add up.
00:39:25.000 So that is one thing that I would say is definitely different.
00:39:27.000 And you benefit from that as a younger person.
00:39:30.000 And we didn't really have that.
00:39:32.000 Now you have hindsight.
00:39:33.000 Next chat.
00:39:34.000 All right.
00:39:34.000 Next chat from Sokal Punch.
00:39:36.000 Question for the crew: How do you guys respond to being asked if you're MAGA?
00:39:40.000 I live in a liberal cesspool and am always leery of showing my hand.
00:39:44.000 I have never even said I'm MAGA.
00:39:46.000 I'm not MAGA.
00:39:47.000 I've said what I don't know what that means exactly.
00:39:50.000 I mean, in principle, yes, make America great again.
00:39:52.000 I mean, I definitely am America first, putting America first.
00:39:56.000 I think that our representatives should represent the people who voted for them.
00:39:59.000 I'm a conservative.
00:40:01.000 What am I seeking to conserve?
00:40:02.000 Well, what I'm seeking to conserve is what made America great.
00:40:05.000 And if you maintain that, it'll stay great.
00:40:08.000 We don't need to guess on that.
00:40:10.000 Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
00:40:12.000 You look at the Constitution, you look at the amendments, Bill of Rights.
00:40:14.000 Okay, great.
00:40:14.000 Declaration of Independence.
00:40:15.000 You got it.
00:40:17.000 Like, that's what I seek to conserve: the Western Judeo-Christian American way of life that turned us into the world's only superpower.
00:40:26.000 Does not mean that we are not flawed.
00:40:29.000 I think MAGA is sort of emblematic of that, but MAGA also is, I guess the big difference is Donald Trump sort of got rid of the stigma, the shame of being America first.
00:40:39.000 Because it used to be, well, we have so much, so we should give it to all these other people until we realize that this doesn't work.
00:40:44.000 Look at these nations in Africa who've received billions and billions.
00:40:46.000 They're still cesspools of war and sadness.
00:40:50.000 Look at the wars that we've funded.
00:40:52.000 How about we start actually prioritizing our own people first as opposed to being a giant charity for the world?
00:40:59.000 So I just tell them, I just say conservative, and then if they ask you what that means, explain it to them.
00:41:04.000 But yeah, like you, I'm not.
00:41:06.000 Yeah, I'm not, I don't call myself MAGA.
00:41:08.000 People define it different ways, too.
00:41:10.000 Yeah.
00:41:10.000 They define it how it's convenient for them if they're attacking somebody or if they're saying they're proud of being on the right.
00:41:16.000 I don't know.
00:41:17.000 To me, it always seems like someone who's very proud of being, I'm MAGA.
00:41:21.000 It's very, I'm Trump.
00:41:22.000 Yeah.
00:41:23.000 And I will never be, I will never be a fan of a politician.
00:41:28.000 I'm not saying that if you are, that's fine.
00:41:30.000 I'm not, it's not, that's just not me.
00:41:32.000 I'm always, you know, skeptical, and I'm happy he's president.
00:41:36.000 Yep.
00:41:37.000 Things are going great.
00:41:38.000 I wish him the best.
00:41:39.000 Well, hero worship, I get it.
00:41:41.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:41:41.000 But I don't want to be, you know, that person.
00:41:44.000 Also, he can't save this country.
00:41:45.000 In other words, he can't conserve this country alone.
00:41:47.000 So you've got to use this movement and this groundswell to go, okay, why were we excited about this?
00:41:51.000 Because we were at the edge of a cliff and we've backed off a little bit, but we have to back up a whole lot more.
00:41:58.000 And Trump is great, most effective president of my lifetime that I can remember, but it's not enough.
00:42:03.000 So don't tie it to MAGA.
00:42:05.000 Tie it to, hey, you're a conservative.
00:42:07.000 You can say, you know, if you want to say, I'm a conservative nationalist, fine.
00:42:10.000 I have no problem with that.
00:42:11.000 Just promise the leftist media has done that.
00:42:13.000 They've already done that.
00:42:14.000 They've already gone.
00:42:15.000 They've already associated the word MAGA with Nazi.
00:42:19.000 They've associated the word MAGA with right-wing extremists.
00:42:22.000 They've associated the word MAGA with racist.
00:42:24.000 They've associated the word MAGA with all these different things.
00:42:27.000 And it sucks because some people will go on there and go, yeah, I'm racist.
00:42:30.000 Yeah, I'm MAGA.
00:42:31.000 And you're like, hey, what?
00:42:32.000 Shut up.
00:42:33.000 They think I'm.
00:42:34.000 There's always those people.
00:42:34.000 I mean, they did it with George Bush.
00:42:35.000 Remember, Kanye West?
00:42:36.000 George Bush does not care about black people.
00:42:38.000 That was just one quote, but that was what they were saying.
00:42:40.000 George Bush, George Bush, let those people of Turkey and Katrina die because they were black.
00:42:45.000 That's what they were actually saying.
00:42:46.000 So then if you like George Bush, you're a racist.
00:42:49.000 If you don't vote for Barack Obama, they said it about McCain.
00:42:52.000 They said that if you don't vote for Obama, you are a racist.
00:42:55.000 They showed in a back to the Future.
00:42:57.000 I was like, I'm 18, bro.
00:42:58.000 Yeah.
00:42:59.000 What the fuck do I know?
00:43:00.000 Well, in a Back to the Future parody on Family Guy, they had the Nazis wearing McCain Palin stickers.
00:43:04.000 So when they say we haven't done, it's just for Trump.
00:43:07.000 No, you did it with McCain Palin for crying out loud.
00:43:10.000 You did the same thing with Mitt Romney for crying out loud.
00:43:12.000 And now he's a savior of the Republican Party.
00:43:14.000 Again, there's no principles.
00:43:15.000 It's just who's the useful pawn for them at that moment in time.
00:43:18.000 Final chat.
00:43:19.000 All right.
00:43:20.000 Final chat from Bouldera, 85.
00:43:23.000 Question for crew.
00:43:24.000 If there were no gun laws and you could be as armed as you wanted, would you be more amenable to their not being police or there being private security?
00:43:32.000 You mean they're not being police or private security or not being police and replaced with private security?
00:43:40.000 I think replaced.
00:43:41.000 Okay.
00:43:42.000 No, I think the police force is a legitimate role of government.
00:43:46.000 Yeah, it is.
00:43:47.000 To enforce laws to ensure that people are safe.
00:43:51.000 Now, I think that that needs to be done appropriately.
00:43:54.000 I think it needs to be funded appropriately.
00:43:55.000 And I think it needs to come with the appropriate accountability standards.
00:44:00.000 And I think when the left, let me give you an idea.
00:44:03.000 So, no, no.
00:44:04.000 Now, I can own as many guns as I want, and I own many guns.
00:44:08.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:44:08.000 No, no, go ahead.
00:44:09.000 Go ahead.
00:44:10.000 You're going to make a great point here, but I just wanted one thing.
00:44:12.000 If there were no gun laws and there's no police because of it, some people would not be able to afford guns.
00:44:16.000 Therefore, they would not be able to afford to defend themselves.
00:44:19.000 Therefore, you could take anything from them just because they're poor or because they don't have the gun or if they're a pacifist or whatever.
00:44:25.000 It would just, you would just be, oh, I have a private security team.
00:44:28.000 There's no police force that's going to enforce the rules or protect and stuff like you.
00:44:32.000 So I can just do whatever the hell I want.
00:44:33.000 It would be Thunderdome, dude.
00:44:35.000 Yeah.
00:44:36.000 No, you're right.
00:44:37.000 Well, that might do well.
00:44:38.000 Yeah, yeah, you might do that.
00:44:39.000 I might do well.
00:44:40.000 It's not fair to anybody else.
00:44:41.000 Also, the people who would be in charge would not be the people you think.
00:44:43.000 It would be old, fat, white guys who reload their own ammo and spend their weekends at the range.
00:44:49.000 They would be the ones you'd be bringing your sacrifice, just to be clear.
00:44:54.000 It wouldn't be the Crips with their, like, that's the guy who you should fear.
00:44:59.000 Now, Here's the thing with the police too.
00:45:03.000 It's also disingenuous.
00:45:04.000 Because, look, I've said, of course, should have chokeholds when properly applied.
00:45:10.000 You, of course, should have other non-lethal options as well as firearms.
00:45:13.000 When the left says, we need better police, they say, we don't want to defund the police.
00:45:17.000 We want better policing.
00:45:18.000 Okay.
00:45:19.000 So they're hoping you come to their side on common ground.
00:45:23.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:45:24.000 In theory, right there, I would agree that we need better police training and better policing.
00:45:31.000 But you know what?
00:45:32.000 I'm not going to give it to them.
00:45:33.000 You know why?
00:45:34.000 Because I don't like them and because they're being dishonest and I want to fight them.
00:45:38.000 And here's how you know it's true.
00:45:40.000 They go, we need better policing.
00:45:41.000 Okay, great.
00:45:42.000 We need better standards for the police.
00:45:44.000 Okay, good.
00:45:45.000 Let's act like this is common ground.
00:45:48.000 So we should increase the round count.
00:45:50.000 Average police officer fires 50 rounds in a year.
00:45:57.000 We did what, 20 times that at the range this last weekend?
00:46:00.000 50 rounds.
00:46:00.000 That's all they need.
00:46:01.000 Hey, so you would up that number to every month training at least 500 rounds a year?
00:46:06.000 Of course they wouldn't.
00:46:07.000 Of course it wouldn't be because, ooh, guns.
00:46:09.000 Okay, hey, you want better common ground, right?
00:46:11.000 Better policing.
00:46:11.000 Should we start with better physical standards?
00:46:15.000 Right?
00:46:16.000 Should we undo the changes that we made so we could allow female officers who, by the way, have to go to their gun because it's their only tool.
00:46:22.000 And oh my God, they're horrible with guns because they only fire 50 rounds a year.
00:46:26.000 How about that?
00:46:28.000 How about we, so better, let's start with this.
00:46:30.000 Getting in to the police force, okay?
00:46:34.000 Let's increase, same thing for the military.
00:46:36.000 Let's at least go back to the standards we had, but let's make them even more stringent so we can have fit, fighting-ready police officers.
00:46:45.000 And let's train them better so that they can be more lethal when need be and be less lethal.
00:46:52.000 You cannot give someone power.
00:46:55.000 This is the biggest lie from the left, too.
00:46:57.000 You cannot empower someone by stripping them of any power they have in the first place.
00:47:03.000 It is so, it is so illogical and counterintuitive.
00:47:07.000 We're going to empower women.
00:47:09.000 How?
00:47:10.000 By getting them into the police force.
00:47:12.000 Equality, even though they have no business being there, it's going to be hell for them.
00:47:17.000 They will be ill-equipped and they're going to be going through non-rigorous, poor firearm training.
00:47:23.000 We're going to put them out in East St. Louis.
00:47:27.000 We've empowered them.
00:47:29.000 What?
00:47:30.000 How is that empowering?
00:47:32.000 It's like trying to tell a kid, hey, go stand up to a bully.
00:47:36.000 Great.
00:47:37.000 The kid doesn't know how to fight.
00:47:39.000 The kid has no tools.
00:47:40.000 Have you empowered him?
00:47:42.000 Have you empowered him?
00:47:44.000 And many moms have done this.
00:47:45.000 This is a very feminine mindset, right?
00:47:47.000 Where a kid will come to this guy bullied me.
00:47:49.000 And even if the mom, their heart isn't right, they're like, well, you go right up to him and you tell him that he better stop.
00:47:53.000 I mean, he's only doing that because, you know, he better stop or else.
00:47:56.000 How many kids have gotten that advice?
00:47:57.000 They go up and say, he better stop or else.
00:47:59.000 And the kid goes, or else what?
00:48:00.000 And beats your ass, right?
00:48:01.000 Because the mom didn't take into that equation, hey, you know what?
00:48:04.000 There still is the laws of the jungle.
00:48:06.000 There still is might makes right in that scenario.
00:48:09.000 And you cannot empower that son.
00:48:11.000 You cannot imbue him with any self-esteem or any confidence unless he can handle the shit if it goes down and defend himself or as an adult, his kin, because he knows how.
00:48:23.000 That power, now that kid can confidently say, hey, you better cut this out.
00:48:29.000 Yeah, or else what?
00:48:31.000 First off, the kid's probably going to sense the confidence on him and probably not want to pick on him anymore, probably pick an easier target.
00:48:38.000 Or he gets shoved down in a face full of dirt.
00:48:40.000 And guess what?
00:48:41.000 You've now neutralized a bully.
00:48:43.000 But the left keeps wanting to empower people by making them power less.
00:48:48.000 How are you empowering someone by getting them into the military in the name of equality, but the standards are lower?
00:48:55.000 So by the way, the person next to them is less capable and less fit and less able to defend their life as a comrade.
00:49:03.000 How do you empower women by getting them into the police force with poor training, by lowering standards and then putting them out in the real world?
00:49:10.000 Because you know what that crack dealer is?
00:49:12.000 You know what that blood member is?
00:49:14.000 He's the same bully who you better stop or else.
00:49:17.000 Yeah, or else what?
00:49:20.000 And it never ends well.
00:49:23.000 So I'm not going to go along with this premise from the left.
00:49:26.000 We need better policing.
00:49:27.000 Sure.
00:49:28.000 In theory, I agree.
00:49:29.000 We need more accountability.
00:49:31.000 Sure.
00:49:31.000 In theory, I agree.
00:49:32.000 But until I hear them say that means increased rigorous standards, increased training, more both violent and nonviolent options available, till they do that, it's all lip service.
00:49:48.000 And what they really want is no police.
00:49:50.000 Because at the end of the day, hey, let's go through the left's utopia.
00:49:54.000 We're empowering neighborhoods and communities, and we're empowering women by getting them to the police force.
00:49:59.000 Okay, if they had their way every single step of the, what would you have?
00:50:02.000 You'd have a female police officer show up to a domestic dispute, let's say with an angry crackhead who's much larger than her.
00:50:12.000 You'd have a woman show up who wasn't able to do any pull-ups or push-ups, who couldn't do the same kind of jog, who's more likely to experience bone fractures, be ragdolled, who only shoots 50 rounds, but has been trained in verbal de-escalation techniques that, oh my God, you may not realize don't work when someone's on PCP.
00:50:29.000 And now the police officer is being beaten and/or raped too.
00:50:34.000 But you've done everything the left did to empower communities and women.
00:50:39.000 Flip side.
00:50:41.000 The person who shows up at your door is someone, I'm talking about police, with extreme accountability, body cam, sure, rigorous training standards that, by the way, they have to meet every single year.
00:50:53.000 And at the very least, you know, is trained as well as anyone on that block with the firearm on a daily basis.
00:51:00.000 He has the ability to de-escalate.
00:51:02.000 He has the ability to bring in a counselor, but he also has the ability to choke, punch, and/or shoot you if you keep beating up on that helpless victim.
00:51:14.000 Now, we've just talked about empowering those people in the police, right?
00:51:18.000 But let me ask you this: which one of those scenarios empowers you more if you're in that house?
00:51:26.000 Who do you want to show up?
00:51:28.000 Who are we empowering?
00:51:30.000 I'm not going to lie about any common ground with the left because it's all based on a lie.