Louder with Crowder - August 07, 2026


Tucker's 10 Point Plan: What the Hell is He Talking About?


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47 minutes

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178.92

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8,585

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786


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00:04:31.000 Click Rumble Premium and join now for $99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content, creators, and free speech.
00:05:02.000 Glad to be with you.
00:05:03.000 And I apologize to Josh Firestein because he caught the bubonic plague from me.
00:05:08.000 He did.
00:05:09.000 Problem is, I don't get that sick.
00:05:11.000 I get a little sick.
00:05:12.000 And then you're a super spreader.
00:05:13.000 And then if someone else gets it.
00:05:14.000 So, like, that's the thing.
00:05:15.000 I can't take a sick day because you must be nice.
00:05:17.000 So I come in and then I go home, hot toddy, and take a nap.
00:05:19.000 But it's been a little rougher on Josh.
00:05:21.000 So my apologies.
00:05:22.000 We have a glass panel that you can't see here, like the Change My Mind Bulletproof panel.
00:05:25.000 It's not true at all.
00:05:28.000 Way to give it away.
00:05:29.000 We need to, you know what?
00:05:31.000 We really need to force him, like, clockwork orange him with.
00:05:34.000 Band of brothers.
00:05:35.000 Yeah.
00:05:36.000 So he needs to understand what it means.
00:05:39.000 But then the people wouldn't get their admonish, Stephen.
00:05:41.000 That's true.
00:05:42.000 They don't know what to do without their admonish.
00:05:44.000 They do love it.
00:05:44.000 Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?
00:05:46.000 I'm well.
00:05:46.000 How are you?
00:05:46.000 You feeling a little better?
00:05:47.000 Yeah.
00:05:48.000 No, it's not that bad.
00:05:48.000 I just, you know, it was allergy.
00:05:49.000 It was everyone had allergies and it was kind of.
00:05:52.000 Wasn't allergy?
00:05:52.000 I don't get super sick.
00:05:53.000 Josh's sick and he's home dying.
00:05:55.000 I know, but I don't get super sick.
00:05:57.000 I get little colds because I have twins or petri dishes and then it just kind of migrates through and it's about a day and a half.
00:06:02.000 So I'm okay.
00:06:03.000 And then because Josh is not here, the man who does a lot of work here behind the scenes, you know him.
00:06:08.000 He used to be Ginger Snap, but he didn't like it.
00:06:11.000 So, Lane the Brain, my senior researcher, producer.
00:06:15.000 I don't know the term.
00:06:16.000 He's my right hand man as far as making sure that we get stuff right.
00:06:18.000 Lane the Brain, how are you?
00:06:19.000 Well, I'm good.
00:06:20.000 If I would have known I was filling in for Josh the Wolf t shirt, it might have not been my first choice.
00:06:23.000 Yeah, well, I too buy my clothes at Bucky's.
00:06:27.000 Well, nice.
00:06:29.000 Bucky's has some decent stuff.
00:06:31.000 I outfitted an entire townhouse from Bucky.
00:06:33.000 Yeah.
00:06:34.000 I got all the cow rugs.
00:06:35.000 All the cow rugs.
00:06:36.000 I gave you one.
00:06:36.000 Yeah, you did.
00:06:37.000 Yeah, because I was like, ah, it doesn't fit with the new decor, but they're good.
00:06:40.000 Also, it didn't fit with mitochondria.
00:06:41.000 No, it didn't.
00:06:44.000 To some hobo under the bus.
00:06:46.000 Well, the problem with that, it was like that, and I had, you guys had this with your dog, Joe Lewis.
00:06:50.000 There was like an artificial grass, like, you know, those little truck, like fake roads that my son would play with.
00:06:55.000 He would only ever, like, maybe pee on that or the cowskin rug.
00:06:59.000 And one time, it happened with a Christmas tree.
00:07:01.000 He's never had an accident in the house, but he thought that's what it was supposed to be.
00:07:03.000 It's like marking his spot, like, there's cowskin in here.
00:07:06.000 I have to dominate it.
00:07:07.000 He thinks it's nature.
00:07:08.000 It's all nature.
00:07:08.000 Okay.
00:07:08.000 Our dogs just ate ours.
00:07:10.000 Hold on, they don't pee on cows.
00:07:11.000 They ate your other dogs?
00:07:13.000 No.
00:07:13.000 The rug.
00:07:13.000 The cowskin rug.
00:07:16.000 So, Lane, how's the dog piss cowskin rug?
00:07:21.000 No, it happened once.
00:07:22.000 They always look cool, but they.
00:07:23.000 I still have one.
00:07:24.000 Well, you put them down, you're like, this doesn't go with anything that I have.
00:07:27.000 You're like, I mean, I'll take a few naked pictures, put it up on your dating profile.
00:07:30.000 I saw that, but you pull it.
00:07:31.000 Well, you wear that rug well.
00:07:35.000 It's like the cover of Cosmo with what's his name?
00:07:38.000 Burt Reynolds.
00:07:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:40.000 Bring that up later as an overlay.
00:07:41.000 We need to bring that up for the ladies.
00:07:43.000 We'll be talking about it.
00:07:44.000 Lady today, Kanis Owens, Andrew Wilson.
00:07:46.000 Looks like a debate won't happen.
00:07:50.000 And just get right into it.
00:07:51.000 Tucker Carlson's 10 point plan.
00:07:52.000 I told you yesterday that we would go through it.
00:07:54.000 I wanted to spend some time with it.
00:07:55.000 And look, let me tell you something.
00:07:58.000 When I started doing this, so first time on YouTube, 2006 was like a comedy video.
00:08:01.000 Any type of political sort of videos that were adapted from it was 2008, 2009, found my way.
00:08:07.000 But early on, we would have all these conversations.
00:08:11.000 You know, you would collaborate.
00:08:12.000 But back then on other channels, that meant either doing a sketch together or an interview or you'd have debates.
00:08:16.000 And you have conversations, you disagree.
00:08:18.000 That's a big reason of why I got into it.
00:08:19.000 Then they started happening less and less.
00:08:21.000 That's why we did change my mind, too, so that people could see those conversations.
00:08:24.000 There's often a disconnect between what you see on the screen and what happens in real life.
00:08:30.000 We've kind of lost that.
00:08:32.000 I would love to sit down, not just with Tucker, or have, you know, we opened the debate to Candace when she called me out.
00:08:37.000 I don't hate anybody.
00:08:39.000 I'd like to see the best ideas went out and people present their strongest case.
00:08:44.000 We don't really see that, particularly, and it's disturbing to me, on the right.
00:08:49.000 If we're seeing these factions on the right, we're seeing these fractures take place, wouldn't it be productive if we want to correct course to sit down and have a conversation and see who presents the best case?
00:09:02.000 Instead, people just talk to a screen and then they trash talk on social media.
00:09:05.000 So that's why we try and avoid that and we talk with you here.
00:09:08.000 So you let me know.
00:09:08.000 It feels like there's been a real shift.
00:09:10.000 We want to get into Tucker Carlson?
00:09:11.000 I think so.
00:09:12.000 I think it's time.
00:09:12.000 By the way, I'm not just winded because I'm a fat guy right now.
00:09:16.000 It's because I can't breathe and talk at the same time.
00:09:20.000 It's at that phase.
00:09:21.000 Yeah.
00:09:22.000 Gross.
00:09:22.000 You just need minutes.
00:09:23.000 Yeah.
00:09:24.000 Everything's wrong.
00:09:27.000 Jerome, take over.
00:09:28.000 Got it.
00:09:29.000 Nothing.
00:09:29.000 Silence.
00:09:29.000 On the phone with my dad the other day going up the stairs.
00:09:32.000 Oh, no.
00:09:32.000 He was like, Are you dying?
00:09:33.000 I was like, I'm not dying.
00:09:35.000 I just can't think of anything fun to do.
00:09:39.000 Also, someone sent me a tip.
00:09:40.000 My father, just before we get to this, my father, I got an SOS emergency from my dad from his iPhone.
00:09:48.000 I guess it was in his cart.
00:09:49.000 He was like shopping at the grocery store and it went off and it did an SOS like emergency dial and I'm his emergency contact.
00:09:55.000 So I call him.
00:09:55.000 I go, is everything okay?
00:09:56.000 He's like, oh, yeah.
00:09:57.000 You know, I have you and your brother as emergency contact.
00:10:00.000 Yeah, that's really touching.
00:10:01.000 I really, we both called me, but no, it's fine.
00:10:03.000 It was just in my cart.
00:10:04.000 But then I got notified like 19 more times.
00:10:06.000 So the second call was like, Dad, shut it off and take me.
00:10:09.000 I don't want to be your emergency contact.
00:10:10.000 Just die.
00:10:11.000 He keeps throwing the phone in the cart.
00:10:13.000 Yeah.
00:10:13.000 He keeps throwing it in the cart.
00:10:16.000 Funniest thing ever.
00:10:17.000 Just COVID.
00:10:19.000 COVID.
00:10:19.000 My dad was like, Tom Thumb.
00:10:21.000 There was a guy who was in a self checkout.
00:10:23.000 My dad described him on the show.
00:10:25.000 He was about six foot seven.
00:10:27.000 About 300 pounds, and he had a huge cigar in Tom Thumb lit and was just beep, beep, beep.
00:10:34.000 Like no one's going to say a thing.
00:10:35.000 He said it.
00:10:36.000 Nobody did.
00:10:38.000 The guy was in the frozen.
00:10:39.000 I'm like, do I smell cigar?
00:10:40.000 And I saw this guy with a mosquito swatter.
00:10:46.000 I remember that.
00:10:47.000 He was just the funniest thing he's ever seen.
00:10:50.000 So my dad has fun at the grocery store.
00:10:51.000 All right.
00:10:52.000 He's an old man.
00:10:53.000 Tucker Carlson.
00:10:55.000 Let's go to this.
00:10:55.000 Have you watched his 10 point plan?
00:10:57.000 Did you watch his episode?
00:10:57.000 By the way, I highly recommend that you do so you take it in context.
00:11:00.000 We did.
00:11:01.000 And if I don't do a good job of providing it in context, please let me know.
00:11:05.000 We always want to be fair.
00:11:06.000 We want to provide the references to you every show, link in the description, and we'll have links to his installment, YouTube, X, all that.
00:11:13.000 So let me set it up for you.
00:11:15.000 He responded to a Marjorie Taylor Greene post on X where she said that MAGA was betrayed and, you know, she's very anti Trump now.
00:11:23.000 Not just anti Republican Party, but specifically anti Trump.
00:11:26.000 He responded with MAGA was betrayed.
00:11:29.000 We all were.
00:11:30.000 It's time for a new path forward.
00:11:31.000 More tomorrow night at 6 p.m.
00:11:33.000 So.
00:11:33.000 Teasing there.
00:11:34.000 Some people were speculating he's going to run for president.
00:11:37.000 What's he going to do?
00:11:38.000 No, it was a list.
00:11:40.000 And his plan forward for America.
00:11:42.000 So we want to go through that here today.
00:11:44.000 I want to do three things.
00:11:46.000 First, identify what Tucker Carlson claims are the biggest threats facing America, because it's a very, very long installment.
00:11:52.000 So three primary threats.
00:11:54.000 Then we want to test some of the premises to see if they're substantiated.
00:11:58.000 And then go through the specifics in his plan when they're provided.
00:12:02.000 Okay?
00:12:03.000 So, first, his 10 point program, he says that America must be.
00:12:07.000 Fair, sovereign, productive, beautiful, healthy, honest, optimistic, wise, decent, united.
00:12:19.000 Guys, it's not a concern in being fair.
00:12:23.000 It does make me optimistic.
00:12:24.000 It is.
00:12:27.000 Oh, by the way, Gerald, we need to get some Neosporin for my demon scratches on my back.
00:12:31.000 Okay, got it.
00:12:32.000 Yeah.
00:12:32.000 So that's his plan.
00:12:33.000 It's really just a list of adjectives.
00:12:35.000 And by the way, next week, some people suspect this is all a big tease.
00:12:39.000 For the book he's releasing of his favorite adverbs.
00:12:42.000 We don't do math.
00:12:46.000 I don't know.
00:12:46.000 It's tough to know motives here.
00:12:49.000 He said, you know, debt is slavery, and then talked about American financing.
00:12:53.000 But of course, your sponsor here, too.
00:12:55.000 Debt is slavery if you have too much debt, but people take out mortgages.
00:12:59.000 There's responsible debt, too, and there's the right way to do it.
00:13:02.000 So that's the problem with only talking in extremes.
00:13:05.000 Let's go first to the biggest threats facing America.
00:13:07.000 Now, you know, my position is Marxism.
00:13:12.000 And that's really the only thing I need to list because it encompasses all of it.
00:13:15.000 Marxism, the primary difference, Marxism, communism, Marxism includes communism, but also the social aspects.
00:13:21.000 Marxism is the ideological backbone for everything downstream, and that would include feminism, right?
00:13:27.000 Which is the destruction of the nuclear family and changing fundamentally the American workplace, the LGBTQ mafia, DEI, population replacement, great replacement theory, internationalism, globalism, Islamism, Black Lives Matter, Antifa,
00:13:42.000 a giant welfare state, elitism, oligarchs, because once we've created a giant welfare state and they've seized the means of production and distribution, Well, then you only have a few people in charge.
00:13:52.000 So, Marxism, to me, and especially if you see the left at play, is the biggest threat that the United States and Western civilization faces.
00:14:00.000 That's where you follow the left.
00:14:03.000 It's easy to see how they all line up lockstep.
00:14:05.000 You just have to see it through the Marxist lens.
00:14:07.000 Okay, let's go to Tucker Carlson in his outline the biggest threats facing the United States.
00:14:12.000 He lists three nuclear war, AI, and the elite looting.
00:14:18.000 So, we are moving toward on this trajectory, if it holds.
00:14:22.000 We are moving toward a nuclear exchange because you have two conflicts, one in the Middle East and one in the Near East, Eastern Europe, Ukraine, and Iran,
00:14:36.000 that are suddenly somehow merging.
00:14:39.000 And what does that mean?
00:14:40.000 It means a world war.
00:14:42.000 Or maybe the predictions of the people who are developing the technology turn out to be true, which is that it's like the end.
00:14:50.000 At best, we give up our ability to.
00:14:53.000 Make important life decisions to machines.
00:14:55.000 We put machines in charge of our lives.
00:14:57.000 That's at best.
00:14:59.000 And at worst, the machines decide to kill us all and do, and there's nothing we can do about it.
00:15:02.000 That's what they're saying.
00:15:03.000 That's true.
00:15:04.000 Not the doomsday profits of Twitter, but the people who are developing this technology are saying, oh, by the way, this thing that we're making could kill everybody and at very least will make certain that your kids and grandkids and probably you don't have jobs.
00:15:18.000 And we're going to, I guess, do something about that, but it's not clear what.
00:15:21.000 And that's coming in like a year.
00:15:23.000 The big things that the US government.
00:15:25.000 Endorsed by both parties, are doing, which is spying on you more, moving an ever growing share of gross domestic product to a smaller percentage of the population, invading countries, spending $1.5 trillion a year on a military they can't win a war, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
00:15:40.000 all the things that they're doing, the big things.
00:15:41.000 The population doesn't want those things.
00:15:45.000 And they're really concerned, despite a lot of hectoring from their leaders about the price of burritos.
00:15:50.000 And you could say, well, that's awfully small minded of you, and you shouldn't be eating $20 burritos, but maybe people.
00:15:55.000 Maybe people want to choose what they eat and they don't want to pay 30% more for it over a year or whatever the number is, but it's a big hike.
00:16:03.000 And so, if you really cared what people wanted, you would take that seriously.
00:16:07.000 Okay, so by the way, there's a lot of validity to what he just said.
00:16:10.000 Certainly, when he's talking about AI, you know, the developers, you have Elon Musk talking about universal basic income.
00:16:14.000 You have a lot of these people saying, hey, it could be Skynet falling or, and then they curry favor with the government.
00:16:20.000 I agree with that.
00:16:21.000 Where he mentioned the $1.5 trillion spending, our biggest item where we can't win a war.
00:16:26.000 I was confused at first.
00:16:27.000 I thought he misspoke.
00:16:28.000 He meant $3.2 trillion, the war on poverty.
00:16:29.000 You know, that's our biggest line item entitlements.
00:16:35.000 So here's the thing.
00:16:36.000 And by the way, $1.5 trillion military, $3.2 trillion when you look at entitlements, both are incredibly inefficient.
00:16:43.000 Both are absolutely beyond the scope of the legitimate role of government in many ways.
00:16:48.000 Not that the military is itself, but the way that we conduct our military and the contracts.
00:16:54.000 But only one of them is fundamentally immoral.
00:16:57.000 One of them is true robbery, taking from, robbing from Peter to pay Paul.
00:17:01.000 That's $3.2 trillion.
00:17:03.000 That's the danger of saying what people want.
00:17:05.000 Well, a lot of people want entitlements.
00:17:07.000 A lot of people want what you have earned.
00:17:09.000 That's what you see taken out of your paycheck.
00:17:11.000 So we can't only use it as a gauge.
00:17:13.000 Yes, we're a representative republic.
00:17:15.000 But it's not simply meant to represent the wants of the masses.
00:17:19.000 So that's the one area where I would say disagree.
00:17:21.000 AI, nuclear risks are real.
00:17:23.000 The nuclear thing, we've talked about this.
00:17:28.000 I've never heard anyone provide a solution to it who's anti nuclear weapon.
00:17:34.000 No one likes the fact that nukes exist, but they exist.
00:17:39.000 It's sort of like, let's say at one point in time you're trying to get into China, okay, there's a great wall.
00:17:42.000 You have to operate under this fundamental premise that, okay, the wall is there, we have to get around the wall.
00:17:48.000 All right, countries have nukes, so we have to operate with that reality.
00:17:52.000 How do we deal with it?
00:17:53.000 How do we best mitigate the threat and damage?
00:17:55.000 This idea that we just get rid of ours, they'll get rid of theirs is silly.
00:17:59.000 So he does lament the lack of specifics you saw in that video, doesn't really provide them.
00:18:03.000 Does anyone have any specific solution?
00:18:06.000 This is a genuine question to nuclear weapons, considering that we have them, Russia has them, China has them, Pakistan.
00:18:14.000 I don't know.
00:18:14.000 I think deterrence is really the only option that we have.
00:18:18.000 Let's pressure test now, look at some of the premises that he presents, because he uses that to springboard to his plan.
00:18:24.000 The first claim, the first premise, he makes it clear that both parties, Republican and Democrat, are exactly the same.
00:18:32.000 It's a uniparty.
00:18:33.000 Will it be a third party?
00:18:34.000 Probably.
00:18:36.000 The most radicalizing fact of American politics in the last, I don't know, century is the confirmation that we got on or about February 28th that the parties on the big issues are identical.
00:18:49.000 Trump initiates the one thing he said he'd never do a regime change war in the Middle East against Iran, a country much bigger and more powerful than the last regime change we attempted, which didn't work.
00:19:00.000 And there were no protests against it because, of course, the leaders of the other party, his supposed enemies, agreed with him completely.
00:19:05.000 There are plenty of protests.
00:19:06.000 As they did with his budget fundamentally, certainly with the tax code that he endorsed.
00:19:11.000 And that tells us what?
00:19:12.000 One thing at least that on the issues that really matter, the most obvious.
00:19:19.000 And historically significant expressions of the exertion of power, which would be foreign policy and the budget, tax code, the parties are aligned.
00:19:27.000 Okay, here's the truth.
00:19:29.000 That's a false equivalency, and I'll prove it to you.
00:19:32.000 Also, the issues that really matter.
00:19:34.000 He shifts the goalposts.
00:19:35.000 So, two things happen false equivalency, goalpost shifting.
00:19:38.000 So, the big, beautiful bill includes $1.7 trillion in mandatory savings or cuts.
00:19:43.000 Then we have other cuts, $215 billion from Doge, not as much as I would like cuts to SNAP, Medicaid, student loans, the size of the federal workforce, by the way, all of which.
00:19:53.000 Saw protests across the country from both elected officials and those on the left.
00:19:58.000 And some on the right.
00:20:00.000 You had people on the right saying, hey, everyone deserves a treat.
00:20:02.000 They should get Coca Cola on Snap.
00:20:06.000 Well, okay.
00:20:07.000 So we need to identify the war that we're fighting, I would say, the left.
00:20:12.000 And then some on the right.
00:20:13.000 Donald Trump is not one of them.
00:20:16.000 This is more than we've seen in our lifetime.
00:20:18.000 The equivalency here is it's simply not accurate.
00:20:21.000 If you compare that to Biden and the Democrats, they passed a trillion dollar spending bill with zero Republican support.
00:20:27.000 Yeah.
00:20:27.000 Also, by the way, has anybody ever thought that Democrats and Republicans are aligned on taxes?
00:20:33.000 Right.
00:20:33.000 Does that make any sense to anybody else in this room?
00:20:36.000 What is one of the biggest things they always attack him on?
00:20:38.000 Giving tax cuts to who?
00:20:40.000 Who?
00:20:40.000 Who?
00:20:40.000 The wealthy and the business owners.
00:20:43.000 And the Democrats are going to do something different than that.
00:20:45.000 Well, it points to where they might be aligned.
00:20:47.000 And by the way, they're not even aligned on Iran.
00:20:49.000 No.
00:20:49.000 If you look at that.
00:20:50.000 Not in the slightest.
00:20:51.000 No, not in the slightest.
00:20:52.000 Which is sort of surprising because historically, that's where you would see the most alignment of both parties that relates to national security.
00:20:57.000 In the 90s, you certainly would have seen the most.
00:20:59.000 You saw it certainly.
00:21:00.000 And by the way, if you go back to World War II, you would see much more unity.
00:21:02.000 If you go to 9 11, that's where you saw us the most unified ever.
00:21:05.000 Now, you could say that's because of a cabal of people, or you could look at the polling of the American public and there was unity among American citizen Republicans and Democrats.
00:21:14.000 We didn't even see that this time with Iran.
00:21:16.000 But on taxes, on these big issues, again, $1.7 trillion in mandatory cuts, Doge, SNAP, Medicaid, including, by the way, having to verify your identification with Social Security.
00:21:27.000 All of these things, 80 hour requirements for work per month, very, very different.
00:21:33.000 Here's another truth.
00:21:33.000 He says these are the biggest issues are fundamentally the same.
00:21:35.000 Okay, false equivalency.
00:21:37.000 Next truth is that's not the biggest issue.
00:21:40.000 It's not the only issue, and it certainly wasn't the biggest issue or differentiating issue as it relates to the last elections, but don't take my word for it.
00:21:48.000 We have millions of people coming in illegally, and we have a lot more murders than we had two years ago.
00:21:53.000 These two issues, immigration and crime, don't simply annoy voters, though they very much do.
00:21:58.000 These two issues threaten the existence of our society.
00:22:02.000 So maybe you should run on them.
00:22:04.000 It's supposed to be our country, it's supposed to be its owners, we're paying for this.
00:22:08.000 And I wonder, in an earlier age, you would of course see American men with their own rifles standing on the border stopping it.
00:22:14.000 Does there come a point where people just say, we're, you know, there's a criminal government, and we're going to stop the invasion of our country?
00:22:21.000 And you can go check the references time and time.
00:22:23.000 We had to cut it down for time.
00:22:24.000 Time and time again, he said that immigration was the most important issue.
00:22:27.000 That if you don't have a border, if you don't have immigration enforcement, you cease to have a country.
00:22:31.000 Here's the thing I agreed, and I still agree.
00:22:35.000 I don't know why that isn't under the biggest issues.
00:22:38.000 Are the parties the same, or is Donald Trump the same as other Democrats?
00:22:43.000 Okay, let's compare the border.
00:22:44.000 10 million, at least, when you look at Biden, 10 million people who came over, illegal immigrants or new undocumented immigrants, to use their term, anywhere from 10 to 20 million.
00:22:54.000 Best estimate we have is 18 million under Biden.
00:22:57.000 Under President Trump, it's down 94% specifically at the border.
00:23:00.000 There have been zero illegal aliens released at the border for 14 straight months.
00:23:04.000 Turns out it was easy.
00:23:06.000 Let's look at the.
00:23:06.000 So that's a 94% reduction versus an increase of 10 to 20 million.
00:23:11.000 And depending on those numbers, that's double digit increases in the span of three years.
00:23:15.000 That doesn't seem like it's the same to me.
00:23:16.000 Flawless?
00:23:17.000 No.
00:23:18.000 The exact same?
00:23:19.000 Absolutely not.
00:23:19.000 Deportations.
00:23:21.000 Under Biden, you saw about 500,000, 540,000.
00:23:24.000 Under Trump, it's over 3 million in counting.
00:23:26.000 You'll have people who try and dismiss it say a lot of those are self deportations.
00:23:29.000 It's at the very least triple Biden by the lowest counts imaginable.
00:23:33.000 Is it enough as far as deportations?
00:23:35.000 No.
00:23:37.000 Is it a significant difference?
00:23:38.000 Yes.
00:23:39.000 H 1Bs.
00:23:39.000 If you look at Biden, record approvals.
00:23:42.000 There was only a 2% denial rate.
00:23:43.000 We saw massive numbers of new H 1Bs.
00:23:46.000 This is a big issue, not just illegal immigration, but legal immigration.
00:23:50.000 If you look at President Trump adding the $100,000 fee, the new stipulations, new U.S., sorry, new outside of the U.S. H 1Bs, meaning overseas is the term used, but It could also be from South America, down 87%.
00:24:02.000 So, up hundreds of percentage points under Biden, down 87%.
00:24:09.000 That means that up to 50,000 fewer H1Bs coming into the United States this year.
00:24:14.000 If that's the biggest issue, no one has made any bigger strides than President Trump.
00:24:20.000 But I thought he's done nothing.
00:24:22.000 And again, there's limits on what he can do.
00:24:24.000 You need Congress to change the cap on what these are.
00:24:26.000 He can't do this all unilaterally.
00:24:28.000 Well, look at his recent executive order.
00:24:30.000 We were going to cover it.
00:24:31.000 Today, we just don't have enough time on birthright citizenship.
00:24:34.000 I'm talking about it right now.
00:24:35.000 He does what he can, he gets blocked by the courts.
00:24:37.000 And yes, there are feckless Republicans.
00:24:39.000 Absolutely.
00:24:40.000 You see what President Trump does through executive order, and then he needs other people to come along.
00:24:44.000 The Democrats are the ones who are anti any enforcement of immigration.
00:24:48.000 They believe in open borders.
00:24:49.000 And then you have useless Republicans who effectively blockade him.
00:24:53.000 I remember when we were dealing with the party of Mitt Romney, John McCain, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, right?
00:25:00.000 Only Lindsey, people like that.
00:25:03.000 The only person to have done anything about it is President Trump to this degree.
00:25:09.000 Perfect?
00:25:09.000 No.
00:25:10.000 The parties are the exact same?
00:25:13.000 Don't use that as your premise.
00:25:14.000 And he's pushed the Republicans to the right on that.
00:25:16.000 Marco Rubio was a pro amnesty guy at one point, remember?
00:25:19.000 Right.
00:25:19.000 I don't think he would be anymore.
00:25:21.000 Right.
00:25:21.000 No, you're absolutely right.
00:25:23.000 Let's go to the next claim that he makes.
00:25:26.000 This is, yeah, this is one where he says that we are not a sovereign nation.
00:25:29.000 Okay, let's pressure test it.
00:25:31.000 What does sovereign mean?
00:25:32.000 Sovereign means free from outside influence, the right to make decisions on your nation's behalf or your own behalf without being told what to do.
00:25:43.000 Sovereignty is a synonym for freedom.
00:25:45.000 The opposite of sovereignty is slavery, where you have no choice.
00:25:50.000 Like in Qatar.
00:25:50.000 So, your nation is not sovereign.
00:25:52.000 Of course, it leads to things like the Iran war, which you do under bribery or threat or both by Israel, which is exactly what happened.
00:26:01.000 And everybody knows that.
00:26:02.000 You're not sovereign there.
00:26:05.000 But more than that, people lose confidence in their own country.
00:26:09.000 What is my country worth if we can't even make our own decisions?
00:26:13.000 Okay, so buzzwords there, but here's the truth.
00:26:16.000 This is a claim from Tucker without evidence to support his claim.
00:26:21.000 So we're going to have to make an inference, again, operating off of the premise that both parties are effectively the same and we are not sovereign.
00:26:27.000 Okay.
00:26:28.000 We're going to make an inference based on what President Trump has specifically done against internationalism, globalism, withdrew from the WHO, cut a billion dollars in UN funding, withdrew from 31 UN groups, forced NATO,
00:26:43.000 forced other NATO nations to increase their spending and meet their contractual obligations.
00:26:48.000 The first president to do that.
00:26:49.000 Threatened to withdraw from NATO, closed USAID, withdrew from over 66 other international organizations.
00:26:58.000 And here's the thing you mentioned Israel, okay.
00:27:02.000 That may be, we can't really prove it or disprove it.
00:27:04.000 He just says everybody knows it.
00:27:06.000 Yeah.
00:27:08.000 What we do know is that on Iran, President Trump was the most vocal and consistent critic of Iran, going back to the 80s, saying that we just need to bomb them.
00:27:17.000 Iran is absolutely a problem.
00:27:20.000 So, I highly doubt that in 1980, in 87, in 91, in 96, we've shown you the clips that Israel had his ear and was telling him to say that.
00:27:28.000 So, if the only evidence is that he's doing this because of Israel, well, we're making an inference, but let's make the inference the other way.
00:27:35.000 Look at all of the other international policies and where Donald Trump has broken with the organizations and previous policies therein.
00:27:43.000 No one has done more to improve the United States, our positioning in the world, and our sovereignty than President Trump.
00:27:50.000 Is it perfect?
00:27:51.000 No.
00:27:51.000 Are both parties the same?
00:27:53.000 Absolutely not.
00:27:54.000 Democrats were happy to be in the UN.
00:27:55.000 Democrats were happy to do the bidding of the WHO.
00:27:58.000 Democrats were happy to be in NATO and the rest of the world to basically provide their citizens with socialized health care while we subsidize their defense costs.
00:28:08.000 Can't really do much more than that, have to make an inference because it's a claim without any evidence.
00:28:12.000 And he does that a lot.
00:28:13.000 So don't even just focus on the specific issue.
00:28:15.000 But anytime, and I just want to highlight this difference, anytime Tucker says everybody knows it, it's just obviously true.
00:28:20.000 He says these things so you go, okay, I don't have to research that.
00:28:23.000 Right.
00:28:24.000 We never say that to you without giving you the source so that you can go and check us and see if we are right.
00:28:29.000 Why does he not provide that kind of evidence?
00:28:32.000 That should be the key for most people listening to Tucker.
00:28:34.000 I need to dig here when he says, everybody knows this.
00:28:36.000 This is obviously true.
00:28:37.000 Well, that's also why he doesn't have the conversations with people who disagree with him.
00:28:40.000 Because if we were sitting here having a conversation live, he said, Well, everyone knows that.
00:28:45.000 What do you mean?
00:28:45.000 How does everyone know that?
00:28:46.000 You can ask one follow up question.
00:28:48.000 It's also why my approach is very different.
00:28:49.000 For example, we've both interviewed Nick Fuentes.
00:28:51.000 When Tucker Carlson interviewed Nick Fuentes, it was very, very friendly.
00:28:55.000 They tiptoed around the issues.
00:28:56.000 And then afterwards, he insinuated that he was a Fed.
00:29:00.000 I told Nick Fuentes, You're going to be on the show.
00:29:01.000 I'm going to disagree with you.
00:29:02.000 Let's air out our disagreements.
00:29:03.000 And you can provide any references that you want, as will I.
00:29:06.000 In my opinion, that's the productive way to approach it.
00:29:10.000 That's how we always used to do it.
00:29:12.000 That was one of the central tenets of the big, big tent conservative movement that we could hash out these ideas.
00:29:20.000 It's a very new approach where there are a lot of people who simply refuse to do that.
00:29:23.000 Let's go to the next claim, third one.
00:29:25.000 And here he gets more specific because this was all predicated on MAGA was betrayed.
00:29:30.000 He says that President Trump is leading us to extinction.
00:29:33.000 Something different has happened to our system, and it's obvious recently.
00:29:39.000 So it's one thing to have a system run by people who are looking out for their own best interest and not yours.
00:29:43.000 Again, we've had that.
00:29:45.000 It's another to have a system that's totally incapable of responding to reality, that is basically paralyzed.
00:29:53.000 And unfortunately, ominously, that's the system that we now have.
00:29:58.000 And we know that because the two greatest threats, arguably in all recorded history, and those would be nuclear war and AI, are looming right in front of us.
00:30:10.000 And no one in our society, in a position of authority, seems capable of responding at all or even really acknowledging that this is happening.
00:30:17.000 It's like they're frozen.
00:30:19.000 Staring at the trees that approach the windshield at 70 miles an hour.
00:30:23.000 It really does feel that way.
00:30:24.000 And if you listen carefully, that is where we are.
00:30:28.000 So we are moving toward, on this trajectory, if it holds, we are moving toward a nuclear exchange.
00:30:36.000 I may agree with some of the sentiments, but here's the truth.
00:30:38.000 That's another claim without evidence.
00:30:42.000 We're going toward nuclear war.
00:30:44.000 We've been hearing that since nukes have existed.
00:30:47.000 Do we know that for a fact?
00:30:49.000 Now, this is why I say you need to identify the greatest threats facing the United States.
00:30:52.000 Mine, my opinion, is Marxism.
00:30:55.000 It was the opinion of Andrew Breitbart as well, by the way, and Tucker Carlson didn't have a whole lot of respect for him.
00:31:04.000 Why?
00:31:04.000 Okay.
00:31:05.000 Can we observe it?
00:31:06.000 DEI, Marxism.
00:31:08.000 Black Lives Matter and the federal funding therein, Marxism.
00:31:10.000 Summer of Love, Marxism.
00:31:12.000 LGBTQAI, Marxism.
00:31:15.000 Title IX, Marxism.
00:31:17.000 If you look at higher education, affirmative action, Marxism.
00:31:22.000 Reparations, Marxism.
00:31:24.000 Socialized healthcare, Marxism.
00:31:27.000 Class warfare, Marxism.
00:31:28.000 We can see it.
00:31:30.000 We've lived it.
00:31:31.000 The only reason that you had a tranny Bud Light can and Fortune 500 companies putting unqualified black female lesbians with rickets to their board was because of government policy predicated on Marxism and social equity.
00:31:44.000 That is an observable threat that everyone was concerned with and has now been quelled quite a bit to the point that we're able to talk with you about this online when this would not have been allowed a mere six years ago.
00:31:58.000 Do we have that same level of evidence and track record that we are absolutely headed to a nuclear war?
00:32:04.000 It's kind of there's no evidence until we get there if we get there.
00:32:07.000 And we've been told that we're going to get there very quickly.
00:32:09.000 AI, hey, I think we need to do something about it.
00:32:11.000 This brings us to claim without evidence.
00:32:14.000 What's the prescription?
00:32:17.000 I didn't hear that in this 10 point plan for America.
00:32:23.000 Now, I'll be candid with you.
00:32:24.000 I don't have that yet.
00:32:27.000 That is a complicated issue, and I think there's quite a bit of information to be determined.
00:32:32.000 I do think that there's a threat from it.
00:32:34.000 But I'm not the one saying that I have a specific plan in how to deal with it.
00:32:39.000 Let's look at the proposals where there are specifics.
00:32:41.000 So we've gone through the biggest threats facing the United States, the premises, what level of evidence.
00:32:46.000 Okay.
00:32:46.000 Proposals.
00:32:47.000 Here's one that he makes that's very specific cut off benefits to illegal aliens.
00:32:51.000 And by the way, of course, I agree.
00:32:53.000 There is no justification for spending $1 on anyone who comes to this country illegally.
00:32:58.000 Absolutely.
00:32:59.000 Agree.
00:33:00.000 And so if you just cut off benefits to people and check social security numbers, you probably wouldn't need to round anybody up or shoot anybody.
00:33:05.000 We're not paying you.
00:33:06.000 To be here illegally.
00:33:08.000 That's not hard.
00:33:09.000 In fact, it's the easiest possible solution, which makes you wonder why no one's thought of it.
00:33:14.000 Everyone has thought of it.
00:33:17.000 Only President Trump has done anything about it.
00:33:23.000 With both, by the way, trying to get his colleagues, some of whom need to be ousted and recognized, which is why I think this is a waste of time, through the legislative process, and where he can't, through executive order.
00:33:34.000 We shouldn't give them benefits.
00:33:37.000 We shouldn't give them a dollar, and we should, if they don't have a social security number, and no one's thought of it.
00:33:41.000 Donald Trump literally has required Social Security and welfare programs to verify identification with greater regularity than before, and the Democrats opposed it.
00:33:51.000 You can look at the executive orders that have basically slashed or, in roundabout ways, made it impossible for illegals to get access to things like health care and the taxpayer dime, education, jobs, taxpayer funded lawyers, close a lot of the snap loopholes for mixed status families.
00:34:06.000 You look at birthright citizenship, that executive order.
00:34:09.000 You look at birth tourism.
00:34:10.000 Now, I know you'll Say a court will strike it down, but that's not to say that no one has thought of it.
00:34:14.000 Only one person has done something about it.
00:34:16.000 And if these things get struck down, and if, for example, we don't get voter ID, I think it's important to not say President Trump pushing for voter ID is the betrayer, but the Republicans who absolutely are blocking it,
00:34:30.000 Thune and the like.
00:34:33.000 But this equivalency, no one's done more than that.
00:34:36.000 And then we'll go, well, that's just executive order.
00:34:38.000 You said no one thought of it.
00:34:39.000 Yeah.
00:34:40.000 The very real obstacles, the battles that we face, Democrats have thought of it, of course.
00:34:46.000 They've thought, how do we give all of these illegal aliens access to all of our social safety nets and turn them into an entire new class of voters?
00:34:56.000 They want to change the census rule.
00:34:58.000 Remember that?
00:35:00.000 I know Tucker does because he said, once that changes, you don't have a country anymore.
00:35:06.000 So, Democrats and feckless Republicans.
00:35:09.000 Think about that.
00:35:10.000 The other obstacles, you have states who have states' rights.
00:35:12.000 For example, in California, they can, by the way, hand out benefits to illegals, they find roundabout ways to do it.
00:35:19.000 And we also have some really crappy, antiquated policies that the president can't overcome.
00:35:22.000 For example, anchor babies as a pathway for illegals.
00:35:25.000 Who wants that?
00:35:26.000 Who has allowed that?
00:35:28.000 Who has fought that?
00:35:29.000 No one's thought of it?
00:35:31.000 Well, you're pointing to the only guy who's thought of it as a betrayer because of Iran, where you can disagree.
00:35:38.000 It's not honest to say that no one has thought of this.
00:35:42.000 Everyone has.
00:35:42.000 And he's trying to put it into practice and make it policy and then executive order.
00:35:47.000 I just want to highlight something.
00:35:48.000 Something just happened this morning, I believe, that.
00:35:50.000 It's the judges' issue again.
00:35:52.000 He's not even allowed to build the ballroom.
00:35:54.000 They've declared that to be unlawful.
00:35:56.000 Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:35:58.000 The presidents of the United States can't tear down an old ballroom and build a new one.
00:36:02.000 Do you understand the problem that we're facing with judges here?
00:36:04.000 Is that at the feet of Donald Trump?
00:36:07.000 And what kind of courts would we be looking at if we simply don't show up and vote?
00:36:14.000 We know that because we've had to live with it.
00:36:16.000 Here's another specific that he offers.
00:36:18.000 He says we need to stop foreign influence.
00:36:20.000 By the way, I agree.
00:36:21.000 The goal is sovereignty.
00:36:23.000 No more.
00:36:24.000 Foreign lobbyists, none.
00:36:27.000 Very much agree.
00:36:28.000 And I've said that APAC should register under fair.
00:36:30.000 I know that that's the undertone here.
00:36:31.000 Agree.
00:36:32.000 They can go screw themselves a little.
00:36:33.000 Wire brush, also by the way, all lobbying for the nation of Israel as it relates to our military subsidization of the country they're in.
00:36:39.000 But I also would apply this to the single largest foreign lobbies that exist the number since 2016 biggest China, Japan, funny enough, Liberia.
00:36:50.000 And by the way, that's our own money being given back to us if you understand the history of Liberia, which most people don't because who cares about Liberia?
00:36:57.000 Saudi Arabia, Marshall Islands, again, our own money being given back to us, South Korea, Bahamas, UAE, Qatar, Israel's number 10.
00:37:06.000 Then you look at Qatar, they are the single largest influencer of universities by far.
00:37:12.000 Far.
00:37:13.000 Tucker has not only not had a problem with them, he said that he may, and I think this was facetious, purchase a home in Doha.
00:37:19.000 I'm not saying he's a Qatari agent.
00:37:21.000 People go out there, I wouldn't make that claim without evidence.
00:37:23.000 But he's been very, very pro Qatar.
00:37:26.000 Here's how you know when people say Qatar.
00:37:28.000 That just happened.
00:37:29.000 It was a meeting that we never had.
00:37:30.000 So you got to say Qatar now.
00:37:31.000 All right, okay.
00:37:32.000 So, yes, how about all of it?
00:37:35.000 I agree.
00:37:37.000 Let's go to the next prescription that's issued.
00:37:40.000 We need to stop importing people, specifically as it relates to AI displacing jobs.
00:37:45.000 I also agree.
00:37:46.000 You can't have any more immigration of any kind because of AI.
00:37:49.000 So you can't simultaneously say, we're going to eliminate a third of all American jobs the next five years, but we need a lot more people coming into this country for work.
00:37:59.000 It doesn't even make any sense at all.
00:38:02.000 And so it's not an attack on any other country or group when you say, I'm sorry, we don't know what's going to happen in this country.
00:38:09.000 We're going to have.
00:38:10.000 100 million people without work, probably not a great time to bring in new people.
00:38:15.000 In fact, it would be crazy to bring in new people, and it wouldn't be good for those people either.
00:38:19.000 I completely agree with you.
00:38:20.000 Now, remember, under President Trump, when you're talking about importing people, let's do importing legally.
00:38:26.000 H1Bs, huge issue.
00:38:27.000 81%, sorry, 87% reduction in new H1Bs.
00:38:33.000 They use the term overseas.
00:38:34.000 That means people from outside America coming in, taking American jobs.
00:38:38.000 An 87% reduction in H1Bs.
00:38:42.000 Again, executive order.
00:38:44.000 94% reduction in border crossings.
00:38:47.000 That's not 100%, but it's 87% more than anyone on the left and 94% more than anyone on the left would do.
00:38:57.000 They would go the opposite direction.
00:38:59.000 How do we know?
00:38:59.000 We've lived it.
00:39:01.000 So I guess the specific that we need is okay, how would Tucker's plan get that number, 87% in new H 1Bs?
00:39:09.000 How would he get that to 100%?
00:39:12.000 How would he get 94% reduction in border crossings?
00:39:15.000 How would you get it to 100%?
00:39:18.000 If it's a third party, what are the mechanisms of action that this third party would utilize to bring that 87 to 100%, to bring that 94 to 100%?
00:39:28.000 I am all ears because I would like to see them both at 100%.
00:39:31.000 And then how are you going to circumvent the same feckless Republicans who are there now and the Democrats who, by the way, are growing?
00:39:40.000 We're seeing their power swell precisely because of this kind of rhetoric.
00:39:45.000 So let's say a third party.
00:39:46.000 Let's say it's a third party that's bigger than Ralph Nader or Ross Perot.
00:39:51.000 Let's say it's the most successful third party.
00:39:53.000 Great.
00:39:53.000 How do you get that number from 87 to 100?
00:39:55.000 How do you get that number from 94 to 100?
00:39:57.000 And what do you do with the DSA?
00:39:59.000 What do you do with the John Thunes of the world?
00:40:01.000 How do you deal with them?
00:40:01.000 How is the third party going to fix that and be better than an 87 or 94% reduction?
00:40:08.000 I thought both parties were the same on immigration.
00:40:12.000 And here's what you see with Tucker it's not a plan for America.
00:40:16.000 It really was, you know, that was a way to promote it.
00:40:17.000 And I get it.
00:40:18.000 You have to razzle dazzle people for social media.
00:40:21.000 He addresses real issues that Americans are facing.
00:40:24.000 You know who else did that?
00:40:24.000 President Trump.
00:40:26.000 Politicians always do that.
00:40:28.000 They always claim that they're for you, and then very often you actually arbitrate.
00:40:32.000 President Trump, this administration, has done more than any other.
00:40:34.000 There are absolutely issues, but it's not even close.
00:40:40.000 It's not even close.
00:40:41.000 And I don't hear him naming very explicit threats that we have had to deal with, like feminism, Marxism, Islamism, which, by the way, all falls under the umbrella of Marxism.
00:40:50.000 We know that because we've lived it, we've faced it, we've seen the ramifications, and that's one of the very few times in my lifetime where I have seen a reversal of course.
00:41:00.000 People thought it was inevitable.
00:41:01.000 Well, free speech is just not going to be a thing anymore with big tech.
00:41:07.000 That's why you are the single biggest subscriber base out there because I sounded the alarm on that very, very early on.
00:41:14.000 You know, well, hey, now you can say it.
00:41:18.000 Not only because big tech has softened their stance, but we have alternative platforms.
00:41:23.000 We have more competition.
00:41:25.000 DEI was just, hey, we're just going to go left.
00:41:27.000 It's just going to be trans LGBTQ.
00:41:28.000 We're going to go the direction of Europe and hate speech.
00:41:31.000 Well, not now.
00:41:33.000 And now you're even seeing people in Europe who used to say that men could become women, that they were wrong about that.
00:41:39.000 It's not a small thing.
00:41:41.000 We just sort of thought, well, I guess the United States is going to be a multilingual society and get you, well, not now, for the first time, a net negative migration country.
00:41:52.000 DEI and all the biggest corporations, well, not now.
00:41:54.000 That's done.
00:41:55.000 They've been dropped.
00:41:56.000 We gave you the numbers, it was artificially manipulated.
00:42:00.000 Well, I guess we're just always going to see housing prices go up because of the bubble and the government steps in and makes it worse.
00:42:05.000 Well, not now.
00:42:06.000 For the first time, it's come down a little bit.
00:42:08.000 That's pretty recent, but that's significant.
00:42:12.000 So we've lived these reversals.
00:42:15.000 So everyone is able to pick out the issues facing Americans.
00:42:19.000 That's what politicians do.
00:42:20.000 That's what Tucker does.
00:42:21.000 Very few people are able to do anything about it.
00:42:24.000 Very few people even try.
00:42:27.000 As someone here in this entire team who has tried, we did this at great risk to ourselves with Rumble.
00:42:34.000 We bet on Rumble.
00:42:35.000 We said, OK, we need to have alternatives to YouTube.
00:42:37.000 And we always said it's important that YouTube, in a perfect world, there would be Rumble and YouTube would also become more open to freedom of speech.
00:42:43.000 Same thing with X.
00:42:44.000 So we didn't want to see them go extinct.
00:42:47.000 We wanted to see them fulfill their original purpose.
00:42:50.000 And they're closer to that now as it relates to free speech.
00:42:52.000 There's some good, there's some bad.
00:42:54.000 We've done it at great risk to ourselves.
00:42:58.000 Is Tucker.
00:43:01.000 I never see it.
00:43:02.000 And I never hear the specifics.
00:43:04.000 And I don't want to give you all the specifics right now, but next week, you know, we've done this.
00:43:08.000 We've done.
00:43:08.000 Very specific policy prescriptions.
00:43:10.000 We've done it on voting.
00:43:11.000 We've done it on divorce law.
00:43:13.000 We've done it on H 1Bs.
00:43:16.000 And we'll do this as a path forward for America here next week.
00:43:19.000 And you guys can comment below and let us know what you'd like to see most.
00:43:22.000 I don't think this is very complicated.
00:43:24.000 The execution, of course, that's where you have to get to the nitty gritty.
00:43:29.000 And anyone who acts like they have all of the answers, of course, would be lying to you.
00:43:32.000 I certainly don't.
00:43:33.000 Yeah.
00:43:34.000 And I understand that there are issues that people need to address.
00:43:39.000 And I think you said this just a second ago pretty well.
00:43:42.000 But what I don't hear is people picking out the wins from this administration anymore at all.
00:43:48.000 Like it used to be somewhat back and forth on the right.
00:43:50.000 Some people be mad about certain things and be like, yeah, he did really well on this, but I'd like to see him do a little bit better here.
00:43:54.000 And that's what we need.
00:43:55.000 You can be critical of the president.
00:43:56.000 We have plenty of times.
00:43:58.000 You can be pissed off about situations.
00:44:00.000 You can ask questions about things that don't make sense to you that might make you think something else is going on.
00:44:04.000 All of that is fine.
00:44:05.000 Nobody's saying stop doing that.
00:44:07.000 What we're saying is don't get so black pilled that you think we need to start over.
00:44:12.000 We need a new path because the new path he's talking about.
00:44:15.000 Will literally lead to only one outcome.
00:44:18.000 Yeah.
00:44:18.000 And you could be like, oh man, you should be saying that for years.
00:44:21.000 No, I'm saying 15 to 20 million people coming back into this country again because we won't have a country.
00:44:26.000 And that's Tucker Carlson.
00:44:26.000 It's done.
00:44:27.000 Yeah.
00:44:28.000 That's it.
00:44:28.000 I do think there's a vested interest in a lot of these parties that being in the driver's position, being the winning party, is more difficult because then you have to start offering something as opposed to just bitching.
00:44:39.000 Right.
00:44:40.000 And it's a lot harder to get clicks and maintain audience share.
00:44:42.000 That's why you've seen a diversification of content over the past two years.
00:44:46.000 Yeah.
00:44:46.000 Things are better.
00:44:48.000 We're not Trump sycophants.
00:44:49.000 How many times have we been invited to a Trump?
00:44:52.000 Oh, never.
00:44:52.000 Okay.
00:44:53.000 You know what?
00:44:54.000 Even more.
00:44:54.000 We've been so critical of Palantir and even JD Vance and his relationships therein.
00:44:59.000 We weren't at the UFC with a bunch of tech bros, including Vance.
00:45:02.000 Yeah.
00:45:03.000 You mean the one guy in the sphere that knows the most about UFC?
00:45:05.000 Why?
00:45:07.000 Yeah.
00:45:07.000 No, we weren't at the inaugural ball.
00:45:09.000 I was invited, said no.
00:45:11.000 I was, so I haven't told you this before.
00:45:13.000 I'm sorry.
00:45:13.000 I totally forgot it.
00:45:14.000 I literally was reached out to by somebody who was in Trump's previous administration who said, Hey, if you guys are going to do, Lane, you remember you were right there on this call with me.
00:45:22.000 He goes, Hey, if you're going to do, if you guys are going to talk about it, like, talk to me first a little bit.
00:45:26.000 He's going to have to rake us over the coals sometime.
00:45:29.000 Full information.
00:45:30.000 Literally, somebody tied to Trump's administration.
00:45:32.000 I'm not going to name who it was.
00:45:33.000 And the reason you probably didn't bring it to me is because I would do it harder.
00:45:36.000 I forgot it.
00:45:37.000 Honestly, I forgot because I was like, ah, well, we're, you know, I think Elaine said something.
00:45:40.000 Well, just let us know next time you're bringing in more Chinese students.
00:45:43.000 Yeah.
00:45:44.000 It's like, no, we're not going to do that.
00:45:46.000 Who had Dan Crenshaw on the show and called him to the mat on the TAPS Act, on red flag laws?
00:45:54.000 It was long before the feud Tucker Carlson had with him.
00:45:56.000 Yeah.
00:45:56.000 I said, how's that not a red flag law?
00:45:59.000 Can you please explain it to me?
00:46:02.000 So, we haven't done a 180 back and forth.
00:46:04.000 We've been critical of the same things and we've been supportive of the same things.
00:46:08.000 I always, of course, it begs the question why?
00:46:11.000 And it's easy to answer if you provide specifics or substantiate your claims.
00:46:15.000 We're not seeing that right now.
00:46:17.000 And I would be more than willing to have this conversation because I do want to see a stable, sovereign future for the United States of America.
00:46:24.000 That's what I've always wanted.
00:46:26.000 And I think that's how most people.
00:46:28.000 And actually, we're going to go to a story here that shows you a very stark difference.
00:46:32.000 With a sugar daddy and his non wife being deported.
00:46:38.000 And who's upset about it?
00:46:39.000 The left.
00:46:40.000 Why is it happening?
00:46:41.000 President Trump's policy.
00:46:43.000 Also, by the way, this is a chance for me to mention to you while we're talking about crypto, Rumble Wallet.
00:46:48.000 They're going to give you $5 in US stablecoin right now.
00:46:51.000 You can click the link in the description, enter the code Crowder5.
00:46:53.000 I'm not going to lie to you.
00:46:54.000 I don't know a whole lot about crypto, but I know that obviously.
00:46:57.000 It's perfect.
00:46:57.000 You should do that.
00:46:58.000 Bitcoin and stablecoin.
00:46:59.000 It makes it really easy if it's something that you're into.
00:47:02.000 It's very streamlined and it's wonderful.
00:47:03.000 This isn't a shame.
00:47:03.000 Bitcoin scheme.
00:47:04.000 No.
00:47:05.000 No, it's not.
00:47:06.000 It's tied to you as well.
00:47:07.000 Well, Chris Pavlovsky has been on the outs with a lot of the tech bros too because he sounded the alarm on quite a bit of it.
00:47:12.000 You can also understand the useful, I mean, the utilities of AI.
00:47:15.000 You can also understand the utility of some forms of crypto and also be aware of the scams.
00:47:21.000 He has done that and he has been persona non grata.
00:47:23.000 Yeah, it's called Stablecoin for a reason.
00:47:25.000 And he built it for people who make the comment like, I don't really know as much about crypto, but I don't want to get like rugged in some kind of scam.
00:47:31.000 Right.
00:47:31.000 Right.
00:47:32.000 And that's why they're doing this.
00:47:33.000 I mean, I still, I don't know what to do with all my Hawk Tua coins.
00:47:38.000 Hang on to them.
00:47:39.000 They'll come back around.
00:47:41.000 Or my gold Trump sneakers.
00:47:45.000 I still love my laminated Bibles.
00:47:46.000 Those are awesome.
00:47:47.000 This is a funny story.
00:47:48.000 The left wants to say it's sad.
00:47:49.000 It's not that sad.
00:47:50.000 And it's funny when you watch the video.
00:47:52.000 Former Vice President Joe Biden opened at the border.
00:47:54.000 We know that.
00:47:54.000 We know that Democrats want amnesty and they want a whole new class of voters.
00:47:57.000 Okay.
00:47:58.000 Then you also have a bunch of self