On this week's episode of the podcast, the boys try to wake each other up with a jingle about waking up, but it doesn't work. So they turn to a song about how they need more coffee to wake themselves up.
00:06:30.000Please leave policy at home order is being violated.
00:06:34.000In love with communism A Chinese honeymoon A man who wants the left to rule the world And when he gets excited Richard Simmons comes to him Arms flapping, gaping open now country so divided. Oh China Tim he says I just can't wait
00:09:58.000I have a lot of wine in my glass, though, in preparation for this night.
00:10:01.000Wait, hold on, shut up, because you said the most profane things imaginable, which means if you're watching on YouTube tonight, and if at any point you see this... That's not fair.
00:10:09.000Head on over to Rumble, because, you know, we're not going to self-censor for YouTube.
00:10:23.0007 plus 1, most likely, October surprises.
00:10:27.000We've done our research, and we do have Thomas Finnegan on the ground, as well as Nick DiPaolo playing the role of press secretary tonight.
00:11:19.000Have you noticed that for, aw, gee shucks, kind of Roy Rogers nice guy, I don't think there's anyone in modern politics, including Donald Trump, who uses ad hominem more than Walz.
00:13:50.000And to give you an idea too, here's someone from CBS on 60 Minutes completely, to know who you're dealing with, completely dismissing the Hunter Biden laptop scandal as basically a hoax.
00:14:01.000I watch him walk out of a store and he's walking with ice cream.
00:14:06.000And the question the media asked him, what kind of ice cream, what flavor ice cream do you have?
00:14:41.000So basically, just so everybody knows, Donald Trump is now being accused of not doing the 60 Minutes interview that's going to air next Monday.
00:15:25.000Because Walz has refused to do any interviews, because people don't know anything about him yet, and generally speaking, the vice presidential candidates, they're not that consequential.
00:16:33.000No one has spent more time in China than Walls, by the way.
00:16:36.000He printed out Mao's Little Red Book and gave it out as a gift.
00:16:40.000This guy, I believe, I don't think that Kamala, I think Kamala Harris is a byproduct of her environment, San Francisco, right, being indoctrinated in higher education, I know that she grew up in an area of Montreal, very liberal, but she doesn't believe anything, that's why she flip-flops so easily.
00:17:01.000And I think the public needs to know that this man believes in taking your kids away from you and hiding them if you don't transition six, eight, nine-year-olds.
00:17:08.000I think the public needs to know that.
00:17:09.000I think when they talk about abortion, they say it's an Achilles' heel of the Republicans.
00:17:12.000I think you need to flip it back on him and say, but you allow abortions up until the hour before and including birth.
00:17:17.000I don't mean that they need to spend a ton of time on it.
00:17:20.000But if by the end of this debate the American public, those who have tuned in, do not know the radical nature of Mr. Walz and his wife, I think it's a failure.
00:17:30.000They should know, and we'll bring up this montage, that this is Tim Walz.
00:17:35.000Like, I have white guy tacos and, like, black... What is that?
00:20:37.000His wife, and she's fair game because she's out there speaking publicly.
00:20:41.000When you think of radical teachers, there are good teachers out there, but teachers who think of your children as mere putty for them to mold and indoctrinate.
00:23:11.000Well, here's the problem, because not all women are like Tim Walz's wife, just to be clear, so I don't want to be seen as picking on women.
00:23:17.000When a man is with a woman like that, okay, a bad man hits her.
00:24:00.000They need to counterattack, hit walls with the results of Kamala and Joe's destructive policies, and the strongest thing they can do is contrast, contrast, contrast.
00:24:44.000And by the way, on the Middle East stuff, obviously we saw Iran launching ballistic missiles into Israel.
00:24:49.000One of the things they can point to is the kind of things that Donald Trump has said to, you know, leaders of Iran in the past, leaders in the Middle East, the things that he's accomplished with the Abraham Accords, moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
00:25:00.000All of those things happened, and yet the Middle East was not on fire.
00:25:36.000I'm also a testament to intensive planning between the United States and Israel to participate and defend against the invasion attack we expected.
00:25:46.000Make no mistake, the United States is fully, fully, fully supportive of Israel.
00:25:51.000And I've just spent the morning and part of the afternoon in the Situation Room.
00:25:56.000You know what's interesting is, you know what they used for the defense?
00:26:00.000Yeah, the thing that you basically raked Reagan over the coals for, back in the 80s, right?
00:26:06.000They used a version of that with the Iron Dome.
00:26:07.000Well, let's contrast that with Donald Trump.
00:26:08.000He issued his press release on Truth Social, or a statement, When I was president, Iran was in total check.
00:26:16.000They were starved for cash, fully contained, and desperate to make a deal.
00:26:20.000Kamala flooded them with American cash.
00:26:22.000And ever since, they've been exporting terror all over.
00:26:26.000And unraveling the Middle East, which is correct, because I don't know if you know this, but Donald Trump's sanctions cost Iran $1 trillion.
00:26:33.000He pulled out of the Iran deal, which of course was started by Barack Obama.
00:26:36.000People like Trump said it was a horrible deal.
00:26:38.000And then of course, the Harris, I was about to say Harris-Trump, the Harris-Biden administration, you know, they basically removed some of those sanctions, allowing them access to $10 billion in cash.
00:26:45.000And there's a good chance that the money that's being used for these rockets right now is coming from you, the American taxpayer.
00:30:00.000still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon.
00:30:09.000It is down now to one or two weeks' time.
00:30:13.000Governor Walz, if you were the final voice in the Situation Room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
00:30:47.000That's the sound of them losing Hamtramck, Dearborn, and a lot of Minnesota.
00:30:50.000But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
00:30:58.000You saw it experienced today where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition able to stop the incoming attack.
00:31:06.000But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.
00:31:10.000It's clear and the world saw it on that day.
00:31:12.000Add to the drinking game anytime he uses fundamental.
00:31:15.000That's his word whisker when he's nervous.
00:32:38.000And thanks, most importantly, to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice-presidential debate.
00:32:45.000I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit, because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.
00:32:52.000I was raised in a working-class family.
00:32:54.000My mother required food assistance for periods of her life.
00:32:56.000My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me.
00:33:00.000And she raised me because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.
00:33:04.000I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.
00:33:09.000He's doing this because he knows that Walls is going to try and say he went to Yale.
00:34:00.000They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies, and God forbid, potentially launching against the United States as well.
00:34:07.000Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.
00:34:12.000They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world.
00:34:20.000Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question.
00:34:23.000Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe, and we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.
00:34:31.000I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question.
00:34:36.000Governor Balls, do you care to respond to any of the allegations?
00:34:40.000Well, look, Donald Trump was in office.
00:34:41.000We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it.
00:34:54.000Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place.
00:34:58.000So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon.
00:35:00.000According to Al Jazeera, Donald Trump's sanctions cost Iran $1 trillion.
00:36:05.000Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word, but I think that's something that Governor Walz just said is quite extraordinary.
00:36:11.000You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been, and Governor Walz, you blame Donald Trump.
00:36:18.000Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years?
00:36:21.000And the answer is your running mate, not mine.
00:36:23.000Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.
00:36:27.000Now we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now, and you can't ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Walz bringing up.
00:36:37.000But when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel?
00:36:41.000It was during the administration of Kamala Harris.
00:36:44.000Governor Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world.
00:36:54.000Donald Trump has already done it once before.
00:36:56.000Ask yourself at home, when was the last time, I'm 40 years old, when was the last time that an American president didn't have a major conflict breakout?
00:37:05.000The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president.
00:37:34.000seven in ten Americans and more than 60% of Republicans under the age of 45
00:37:41.000favor the US taking steps to try and reduce climate change.
00:37:46.000That's the gang up drink. That's a bias by gang up.
00:37:51.000I'll give you two minutes. Sure so first of all let's start with the hurricane
00:37:56.000because it's an unbelievable unspeakable human tragedy.
00:37:59.000I just saw today, actually, a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child, and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives.
00:38:09.000And I'm sure Governor Walz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible.
00:38:20.000and then of course afterwards to help the people in those communities rebuild.
00:38:24.000I mean, these are communities that I love.
00:38:25.000Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia, all across the Southeast.
00:38:29.000They need their government to do their job.
00:38:32.000And I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens
00:38:36.000of this country first when they suffer from a disaster.
00:38:38.000Now, Norah, you asked about climate change.
00:38:40.000I think this is a very important issue.
00:38:42.000Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns.
00:38:46.000I think it's important for us, first of all, to say, Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water.
00:38:51.000We want the environment to be cleaner and safer.
00:38:53.000But one of the things that I've noticed, some of our Democratic friends talking a lot about, is a concern about carbon emissions, this idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change.
00:39:04.000Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true.
00:39:08.000Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?
00:39:11.000The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America, because we're the cleanest economy in the entire world.
00:39:23.000What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to?
00:39:26.000More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world.
00:39:33.000And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.
00:39:38.000He's trying to drag Walls to China because he knows that Walls is like this with China.
00:39:42.000He may be the best debater we've seen in the last two decades.
00:42:03.000Not to mention the mining for the batteries.
00:42:05.000What the president has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing.
00:42:19.000So clearly Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this.
00:42:23.000If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies.
00:42:27.000Now, something Governor Walz said I think is important to touch upon, because when we
00:42:31.000talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often...
00:42:34.000the Democrats will use here. I'm talking of course about the Democratic leadership and the real issue
00:42:39.000is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer
00:42:44.000money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're going to make the economy
00:42:49.000dirtier. We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America.
00:42:53.000Some of them are, Tim, but a lot of them are being made overseas in China, especially the components
00:42:57.000that go into those solar panels. So if you really want to make the environment cleaner,
00:43:02.000you've got to invest in more energy production. We haven't built a nuclear facility, I think,
00:43:06.000one in the past 40 years. Natural gas, we got to invest more in it. Kamala Harris has done the
00:43:11.000opposite. That's raised energy prices and also meant that we're doing worse by the climate.
00:43:16.000Senator, your time is up. Governor, would you like to respond?
00:43:18.000Well, look, we're producing more natural gas.
00:44:04.000But to call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago, say give me money for my campaign and I'll let you do whatever you want.
00:44:14.000We can be smarter about that and an all-above energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here.
00:45:27.000And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.
00:45:30.000I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.
00:45:34.000I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.
00:52:15.000Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job.
00:52:21.000I've been to the southern border more than our borders are.
00:52:24.000And it's actually heartbreaking because the border patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job.
00:52:29.000Of course, additional resources would help, but most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico.
00:52:40.000You've got to go back through proper channels.
00:52:42.000Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield.
00:52:45.000And he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield.
00:52:49.000Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed.
00:52:55.000You've got hospitals that are overwhelmed.
00:52:57.000You've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes.
00:53:05.000The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.
00:54:40.000You don't get to get the last word in, pig bitch.
00:54:41.000Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check.
00:54:42.000And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going
00:54:47.000So there's an application called the CBP1 app, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wall.
00:55:01.000That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years.
00:55:05.000That is the facilitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership.
00:55:09.000Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
00:55:12.000Thank you for describing our legal process.
00:55:30.000Wish we could do the same for your lapel mic.
00:55:31.000We have to throw our little jabs in and then move on.
00:55:34.000The economy is a top concern for voters.
00:55:37.000She wants to oust Miss Pink, so she's acting professional.
00:55:38.000Each of your campaigns has released an economic plan, so let's talk about the specifics.
00:55:42.000Governor Walz, Vice President Harris unveiled a plan that includes billions in tax credits for manufacturing, housing, and a renewed child tax credit.
00:55:50.000The Wharton School says your proposals will increase the nation's deficit by 1.2 trillion dollars.
00:55:57.000By the way, that's the school Kamala Harris referenced as though they supported her.
00:58:17.000Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Walz this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.
00:58:22.000A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.
00:58:28.000Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it.
00:58:32.000Because she's been the Vice President for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%.
00:58:44.000Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%.
00:58:47.000Open the American southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.
00:58:53.000If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.
00:59:00.000Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago, and the fact that she isn't.
00:59:06.000second economic plan doesn't make sense.
00:59:38.000He delivered rising take-home pay for American workers.
00:59:41.000Now, Tim admirably admits that they want to undo the Trump tax cuts, but if you look at
00:59:46.000what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax
00:59:51.000Is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take home pay to middle class and working class Americans.
00:59:57.000It was passed in 2017 and you saw an American economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country.
01:00:04.000That is a record that I'm proud to run on and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again.
01:01:05.000And I ask you out there, teachers, nurses, truck drivers, whatever, How is it fair that you're paying your taxes every year, and Donald Trump hasn't paid any of those taxes in the last 15 years, and the last year as president?
01:02:54.000I think the thing that most concerns me on this is, is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China.
01:06:38.000Many times I will talk a lot, I will get caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.
01:07:04.000It's about trying to do the best you can for your community, and then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.
01:07:11.000My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier, drinking game rules, bring it up so I don't have to look at his pink fetus face.
01:07:33.000I went to New York City in November of 2001.
01:07:35.000I never made the mistake of saying I was there for 9-11.
01:07:37.000Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest went in.
01:07:41.000I went to New York City in November of 2001.
01:07:45.000I never made the mistake of saying I was there for 9-11.
01:07:48.000Senator Vance, in 2016 you called your running mate Donald Trump unfit for the nation's highest office
01:07:55.000and you said he could be America's Hitler.
01:07:58.000I know you've said, you've been asked many times, and you've said you regret those comments
01:08:02.000and explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020.
01:08:06.000But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president, writing to someone in 2020, quote, Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism.
01:08:21.000You're now his running mate, and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his.
01:08:26.000If you become vice president, why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear, and not just the advice he wants to hear?
01:08:40.000And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the President, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump.
01:08:46.000I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.
01:08:53.000But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people.
01:08:56.000Rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on.
01:09:06.000And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something I thought he was there.
01:09:09.000and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it.
01:09:12.000It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews, is because I think
01:09:15.000it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues
01:10:25.000If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers unless our country stands up for itself and says you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle-class Americans a fair wage.
01:10:41.000Every time another piece of evidence comes in.
01:12:38.000Hobby Lobby provided 16 out of 21 forms of birth control because they're a more Christian company and you still claimed it a travesty of human rights.
01:13:19.000He gives an answer and then substantiates it.
01:13:22.000A lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.
01:13:26.000And, you know, I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.
01:13:37.000And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me.
01:13:40.000And I know she's watching tonight, and I love you.
01:13:44.000And she told me something a couple years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that
01:13:47.000abortion that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship.
01:13:52.000And I think that what I take from that, as a Republican who proudly wants to protect
01:13:57.000innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my
01:14:01.000party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust
01:14:07.000back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us.
01:14:10.000And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do.
01:14:36.000Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse.
01:14:44.000And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia.
01:14:47.000Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona and the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions.
01:14:57.000Let the individual states make their abortion policies.
01:15:00.000And I think that's what makes the most sense in a very big, a very diverse, and let's be honest, sometimes a very, very messy and divided country.
01:15:08.000Governor, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions?
01:15:12.000Yeah, well, the question got asked and Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about Minnesota.
01:15:17.000Well, let me tell you about this idea that there's a diverse state.
01:15:21.000There's a young woman named Amber Thurman.
01:15:23.000She happened to be in Georgia, a restricted state.
01:15:26.000Because of that, she had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care.
01:15:38.000The fact of the matter is, how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights, as basic as the right to control your own body, is determined on geography?
01:15:50.000There's a very real chance, had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would be alive today.
01:15:56.000If she was on time for her appointment.
01:15:58.000Same abortion pill in Minnesota as it is in Georgia.
01:16:16.000He mentioned, I think referring to a national ban.
01:16:19.000In the past, you have supported a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.
01:16:25.000In fact, you said if someone can't support legislation like that, quote, you are making the United States the most barbaric, pro-abortion-free language in the entire world.
01:16:32.000I'm sorry, is a ban on abortion after four months radical?
01:16:38.000Well, Nora, first of all, I never supported a national ban.
01:16:40.000It would be in line with most of the rest of the modern world, just to be clear.
01:16:43.000We're the most radical of all developed nations on this.
01:16:46.000For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in place in this country at the federal level.
01:16:51.000I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance.
01:16:57.000But Nora, you know one of the things that changed is in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum.
01:17:02.000in 2023 and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position.
01:17:09.000And I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job
01:18:07.000We know that the options need to be available and we make that true.
01:18:10.000We also make it for a top three state for the best place to Bars low.
01:18:15.000Should those women have the choice to go to work during COVID, or keep their business open during COVID, or what school to send their kids to during COVID?
01:18:48.000And maybe you're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion.
01:19:09.000That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or pro-abortion, that is fundamentally barbaric.
01:19:15.000And that's why I use that word more, is because some of what we've seen...
01:19:18.000Do you want to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will?
01:19:22.000Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience.
01:19:27.000We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience
01:19:31.000and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family.
01:19:55.000I've given this advice on a lot of things, that getting involved, that's been misread and it was fact-checked at the last debate.
01:20:02.000But the point on this is, is there's a continuation... Oh, that was one of the false fact-checks, by the way, where they said no abortions are being performed late-term in this country.
01:20:09.000By the way, it's 10 to 15,000 a year, every single year.
01:20:12.000And yes, the law does read like that law did in Illinois, that Barack Obama voted against amending with the Infant Born Alive Act, or Infants Born Alive Act, I don't want to miss that.
01:20:20.000I asked a specific question, Governor.
01:22:13.000Vance brought up was the fact is they actually wouldn't be required to provide that kind of care to babies who survived abortions, which is also true.
01:22:20.000Because the reason he's bringing that up is because that's been required by law because, in fact, it was happening in states like Minnesota, in states like Illinois, in states like Virginia, where babies were surviving abortions and doctors were saying, well, I've done my part, and the babies were not given the same kind of health care as a baby who was delivered.
01:22:35.000Once they're born, we all thought, hey, at least now you have to take care of them.
01:23:28.000By the way, this is what CNN talked about all day today and yesterday about how they were worried that because he's a lawyer and he's well-read and he's well-spoken and he I mean he's a Yale law graduate that they were worried that Walls was gonna have a hard time and right there was a great example of how Let me go to a law and then go ahead and disprove it because you think I'm going to misconstrue a law?
01:23:54.000Oh, he's basically a junior senator from Ohio.
01:23:56.000Look, are the political consultants, is the consultant class, are you listening?
01:24:00.000Because this is the first time where we've seen someone actually go back, rewind the tape, I laid out the strategy, he's following it to the letter.
01:24:06.000I know this because we know that all these people who surround these candidates, they always tell them to play it safe.
01:24:11.000He's taking ownership of his mistakes, he's talking directly to the people, he's parrying, he's not going on defense, and he's contrasting with the record.
01:24:19.000Now it's not easy to do because consultants and advisors have to have the raw material to work with.
01:24:43.000He's been very, very congenial about it.
01:24:45.000But let's bring up the drinking game rules again really quickly for people who are tuning in right now.
01:24:50.000Anytime Walz does not directly answer a question in your drink, anytime someone mentions Project 2025 drink, anytime Walz mentions coach or teacher drink, anytime JD Vance goes beast mode drink, that's been a lot tonight, finish your drink, anytime the moderator's getting up on Vance, and we've also added anytime Walz uses the word fundamentally.
01:25:04.000I fundamentally disagree with that decision.
01:25:07.000I want to say, you said he's been quick to the answer every time.
01:25:09.000He was like that on every answer except for the first one, which I think that you misunderstood what I said, but he was doing a combo thing.
01:26:04.000Yeah, well, Nora, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly
01:26:07.000trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions.
01:26:10.000I think in some cases the answer is going to be yes, and in some cases the answer is going to be no.
01:26:14.000And the details really matter here, of course.
01:26:16.000For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's going to be different than if a parent hands over a gun knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous.
01:26:23.000But look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade.
01:26:30.000And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school.
01:26:37.000And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence.
01:26:42.000And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff.
01:26:47.000And I think that Governor Walz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this.
01:26:51.000The question is just how do we actually do it?
01:26:54.000Now here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence.
01:26:59.000The gross majority, close to 90% in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms.
01:27:07.000And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartels.
01:27:17.000So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.
01:27:35.000visible signs of security but unfortunately think that we have to
01:27:38.000increase security in our schools we have to make the doors lock better we have to
01:27:43.000make the door stronger we've got to make the windows stronger
01:27:46.000And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn't fit with recent experience.
01:27:56.000So we've got to make our schools safer.
01:27:58.000And I think we've got to have some common sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that.
01:28:15.000As a member of Congress, I sat in my office surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my 7-year-old picture on the wall.
01:28:32.000We understand that the Second Amendment Is there but our first responsibilities to our kids to figure this out in Minnesota.
01:28:38.000We've enacted enhanced red flag laws Enhanced background checks and we can start to get data, but here's the problem if we really want to solve this We've got folks that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence Bullshit!
01:30:14.000And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland, because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland.
01:30:24.000First of all, We have way higher rates of mental health abuse, or mental health substance abuse.
01:30:32.000We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety.
01:30:35.000We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of, because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem, but I do think it's a big piece of it.
01:30:46.000Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities.
01:30:56.000And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away, and take gun offenders off the streets.
01:31:04.000I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here, but I do think at our schools we've got to talk about more security.
01:31:31.000And several things I want to mention on this is, talking about cities and where it's at, the number one Where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides.
01:31:43.000And we have an epidemic of- But no one's really concerned about that.
01:31:46.000They're just talking about violent crime.
01:34:34.000People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school.
01:34:38.000All of those things in the long run end up saving our money.
01:34:41.000And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in.
01:34:45.000But we can't blame immigrants for the only reason.
01:34:49.000That's not the case that's happening in many cities.
01:34:51.000The fact of the matter is that we don't have an adequate level of affordable housing, but we can make sure that the government's there to help kickstart it, create that base.
01:35:03.000Senator Vance, as far as your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and cut back on immigration, which you say pushes up prices.
01:35:18.000Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising, and what part of any of this plan will provide immediate relief?
01:35:26.000Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with.
01:35:29.000We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim.
01:36:13.000If she wants to enact all of these policies to make housing more affordable, I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her, not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the American dream of homeownership completely unaffordable.
01:36:29.000Now, you asked, Margaret, what would immediately change the equation for American citizens?
01:36:34.000If you lower energy prices, as Donald Trump says, drill, baby, drill.
01:36:39.000One of the biggest drivers of housing costs, aside from illegal immigration, is think about it.
01:36:43.000If a truck driver's paying 40% more for diesel, then the lumber he's delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive.
01:37:57.000I was going to ask, though, on this question, are we going to drill and build houses in the same federal land?
01:38:02.000And I think when people hear federal lands, these are really important pieces of land.
01:38:06.000Now, Minnesota doesn't have a lot of federal lands.
01:38:08.000I know in the western part of the countries we do.
01:38:10.000That's because the pirates took them all.
01:38:11.000There's not a lot of federal lands in and around Minneapolis.
01:38:13.000He's not saying national parks, you moron.
01:38:14.000So the issue is, is I don't understand the federal lands issue unless we see this, and I worry about this as someone who cares deeply about our national parks and our federal lands.
01:38:22.000Okay, look, Walls is just not doing well.
01:39:10.000There's a Federal Reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate.
01:39:13.000We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between these levels of immigration, especially illegal immigration and higher housing prices.
01:39:22.000Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices.
01:39:26.000It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris.
01:41:16.000Well, of course, we're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions.
01:41:19.000In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care.
01:41:23.000I believe a number of members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership.
01:41:32.000And I think that, you know, a lot of people have criticized this concept.
01:41:35.000Which is great, because one third of all doctors don't even accept Medicare, I believe.
01:41:38.000I don't know if that was a Florida stat or a national stat, but a huge percentage of doctors don't accept Medicare and Medicaid at this point.
01:44:18.000How many more businesses in the first three years of Donald Trump started providing health insurance, small businesses, to their employees?
01:44:25.000Because my accountant said he had never seen the amount of hiring and the amount of benefits being created and granted to the company as those first three years.
01:47:44.000We have a number of subjects to discuss.
01:47:46.000By the way, and Vance is really clever, going like, I'm sorry, go ahead.
01:47:49.000He's letting everyone know that he's the cock of the walk, baby.
01:47:51.000There is a child care crisis in this country, and the United States is one of the very few developed countries in the world Without a national paid leave program for new parents.
01:48:02.000Governor Walz, you said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you.
01:48:10.000How long should employers be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns?
01:48:50.000What we know is that gets the child off to a better start, the family works better,
01:48:54.000we stay in their employers, we get more consistency in that.
01:48:57.000So Kamala Harris has made it a priority.
01:48:58.000We implemented it in Minnesota and we see growth.
01:49:01.000That's how you become a pro-business state.
01:49:04.000Let me just explain this really quickly.
01:49:05.000They want to apply it to all companies.
01:49:07.000And I can tell you this, it's not a policy that's been enshrined into law in Texas, but we have given women significant amounts of time off.
01:49:14.000And men here get two weeks off when they have a new child.
01:49:17.000Men like you, but you didn't take all of it.
01:49:19.000We've done that just as a way to try and help out.
01:49:22.000You say that we have to give people two, three months off.
01:50:21.000Senator, do you support a national paid leave program, and if so, for how long should employers be mandated to pay their employees while they are home taking care of their newborn?
01:50:33.000Yeah, well, first of all, Margaret, a number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue, and I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue.
01:50:41.000I mean, look, I speak for this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman.
01:50:46.000He's forcing Wallace to nod his head yes.
01:51:31.000If you look at the federal programs that we have, the Support Paid Family Leave right now, the Community Development Block Grant, and there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal government.
01:51:42.000These programs only go to one kind of child care model.
01:51:45.000Let's say you'd like your church, maybe, to help you out with child care.
01:51:49.000Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area and you want to get together.
01:51:54.000This is the one thing the media is going to fact check him on and say he didn't give a specific plan.
01:51:57.000of these federal monies. We want to promote choice in how we deliver family care and how
01:52:03.000we promote child care because look, it is unacceptable. And you know, of course, Tim
01:52:08.000and I have been on the campaign trail a lot the past seven or eight weeks. This is the
01:52:11.000one thing the media is going to fact check him out and say he didn't give a specific
01:52:13.000plan. People who feel like, but neither did Tim Walz, options like they're choosing between
01:52:18.000going to work or taking care of their kids.
01:52:20.000That is an incredible burden to put on American families.
01:53:05.000Well, what President Trump said, Margaret, I just want to defend my running mate here a little bit,
01:53:08.000is that we're going to be taking in a lot of money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas
01:53:14.000and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country
01:53:20.000and undercut the wages of American workers.
01:53:23.000It's the heart of the Donald Trump economic plan.
01:53:25.000Cut taxes for American workers and American families.
01:53:28.000Cut taxes for businesses that are hiring and building companies in the United States of America.
01:53:33.000But penalize companies and countries that are shipping jobs overseas.
01:53:37.000That's the heart of the economic proposal.
01:53:39.000And I think what President Trump is saying is that when we bring in this additional revenue with higher economic growth, we're going to be able to provide paid family leave, childcare options that are viable and workable for a lot of American families.
01:53:53.000Can you clarify how that will solve the child care shortage?
01:53:58.000Well, because as Tim said, a lot of the child care shortage is we just don't have enough resources going into the multiple people who could be providing family care options.
01:54:07.000And we're going to have to, unfortunately, look, we're going to have to spend more money.
01:54:11.000We're going to have to induce more people to want to provide child care options for American families.
01:54:15.000Because the reason it's so expensive right now is because you've got way too few people providing this very essential service.
01:54:23.000Governor Walz, your ticket also has some child care tax credit proposals.
01:54:28.000Do you think Congress will agree to the $6,000 credit for newborns and $3,000 credit for children over the age of six as your campaign has promised?
01:55:24.000And so I think the issue here is... The alma mater you cited as supporting your economic plan until they said, sure they'll talk about taxes sometime.
01:55:32.000But they will lead with childcare, and they will lead with housing.
01:55:35.000Because we know the problem is, especially in a state like Minnesota, we need more workers because our economy is growing, but we need the workforce.
01:55:44.000Let's talk about the state of democracy.
01:55:46.000The top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation.
01:55:50.000After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results.
01:55:58.000Judges, including those appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud.
01:56:29.000electors. That has been called unconstitutional and illegal.
01:56:34.000Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results even
01:56:38.000if every governor certifies the results? I'll give you two minutes. Well,
01:56:43.000Laura, first of all I think that we're focused on the future.
01:56:45.000We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris' policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on.
01:56:53.000But I want to answer your question because you did ask it.
01:56:56.000Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues, peacefully in the public square and that's all I've said
01:57:08.000and that's all that Donald Trump has said. Remember, he said that on January
01:57:11.000the 6th the protesters ought to protest peacefully and on January the 20th what
01:57:15.000happened? Joe Biden became the president, Donald Trump left the White House and
01:57:19.000now of course unfortunately we have all of the negative policies that
01:57:23.000have come from the Harris-Biden administration. I believe that we actually
01:57:27.000do have a threat to democracy in this country but unfortunately it's
01:57:31.000not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz will face.
01:57:32.000to talk to him. He's looked down for way too long.
01:57:36.000He's going to walk Tim Walz right into this.
01:57:40.000We have the clip of Tim Walz's habit at the end of him saying that the First Amendment doesn't cover your right to hate speak.
01:58:15.000We don't have to agree on every issue, but we're united behind a basic American First Amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences.
01:59:38.000Fact check, bring up the noose of the Mike Pence that was about three feet tall, wouldn't even work for a pygmy.
01:59:42.000I worked with Pence long enough to know, and I said as a football coach, sometimes you really want to win, but the democracy is bigger than winning an election.
01:59:49.000You shake hands, and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win.
02:00:52.000First of all, it's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country.
02:01:06.000We are going to shake hands after this debate and after this election.
02:01:09.000And, of course, I hope that we win, and I think we're going to win.
02:01:11.000But if Tim Walz is the next vice president, he'll have my prayers, he'll have my best wishes, and he'll have my help.
02:01:18.000But we have to remember that for years in this country, Democrats protested the results of elections.
02:01:24.000Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought like $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.
02:01:34.000This has been going on for a long time.
02:01:37.000And if we want to say that we need to respect the results of the election, I'm on board.
02:01:41.000But if we want to say that this is just a problem that Republicans have had, I don't buy that.
02:02:00.000And all of us say there's no place for this.
02:02:02.000I believe it was a month before, two months before, they burned down a church outside of the White House and they tried to storm the White House gates.
02:02:08.000Threatening to kill someone, threatening to do something.
02:05:00.000We will be right back with both of our candidates.
02:05:04.000The CBS News vice presidential debate continues.
02:05:08.000All right, really quickly, we're going to be back in just two minutes.
02:05:12.000I'm going to make sure that we have this live fact check here at the end of this, kind of like an ombudsman, because boy, has this been a night.
02:05:27.000Before we come right back, right now we do have, because we were asked who would be the best press secretary for Donald Trump, the answer has come back time and time again.
02:05:34.000You can also watch him on Mug Club weekdays at 5 p.m.
02:08:19.000Talking of censorship, we've been fighting upstream against that for a very long time here, and we know that it comes directly from the administration, those in positions of government, so the idea that, well, it's a private company, they can do whatever they want, that doesn't hold true anymore.
02:08:32.000We have six pages to be printed out of fact-checking from tonight.
02:08:37.000I know Mission Control's been working on that.
02:08:38.000We also have the 7 plus 1 October surprises.
02:08:42.000We've done our research, and Thomas Finnegan, after this, I almost forgot, too.
02:08:45.000By the way, we just launched a new shirt.
02:09:57.000And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built, from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift, and a whole bunch of folks in between there.
02:10:07.000And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people.
02:10:12.000They believe in a positive future of this country, and one where our politics can be better than it is.
02:10:18.000And I have to tell you, that better than it is It's the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy that works for everyone.
02:11:25.000She's bringing real solutions for the middle class, and she's centering you at the heart of that.
02:11:30.000All the while asking everyone, join this movement, make your voices heard, let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive.
02:11:42.000I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Commonwealth.
02:11:49.000Well I want to thank Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening.
02:11:55.000One of the issues we didn't talk about was energy.
02:11:57.000And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night, and because money was often very tight.
02:12:07.000And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat in the middle of a cold winter night.
02:12:19.000That's gotten more difficult, thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies.
02:12:23.000I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family.
02:12:28.000That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
02:12:31.000I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house.
02:12:34.000You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods.
02:12:36.000You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl, and that too has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
02:12:44.000Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed.
02:12:54.000She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
02:12:57.000Day one was 1,400 days ago, and her policies have made these problems worse.
02:13:03.000Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world.
02:13:07.000I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family.
02:13:16.000What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world.
02:13:24.000But they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington.
02:13:31.000They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years.
02:16:02.000He might change his mind, but I'm telling you, he can self-correct and say, I was wrong about that, or this is what I've learned in the campaign trail.
02:16:07.000He's done it really well, and he's basically learned how to take ownership and admit his faults or his missteps, and putting it on the American people in a positive way of, they've taught me.
02:16:18.000You don't want people to say, I believe I've learned more from you as your teacher than you've learned from me.
02:16:22.000Only he's saying it, but he's genuine.
02:16:24.000He's what a populist actually should be.
02:16:27.000So I expect him to do this every time.
02:16:30.000It's not like someone had him go out some talking points and a really good performance one time.
02:16:35.000He's going to always be able, as long as he still maintains the mental faculties, to take what's given to him and answer And respond in real time and box the person in.
02:17:42.000But it was after... It took a little winding up, and I think that an experienced debater immediately jumps on something like that, because that's a really critical point for a Democrat to make.
02:17:54.000So one of the things that I wonder about... Doesn't matter who it is.
02:17:57.000You could send anyone advance tonight.
02:18:00.000What were Vance and Walz told in terms of what was their goal for the night?
02:18:04.000Probably they were told that this is about supporting your running mate and going after the running mate on the other side, the presidential ticket, not the vice president.
02:19:01.000Vance talk about that issue tonight, he expressed consternation with the Republican Party for not reaching out more, not talking to more people, wanting to provide more options for women.
02:19:15.000And yes, absolutely, Tim Walz did not go after him on that.
02:19:21.000That's part of the point, is that you're actually explaining exactly what I think was missing on the debate stage.
02:19:27.000JD Vance has a record on abortion, and you didn't really hear about that from Tim Walz.
02:21:35.000In this case, I think going forward, the VP debate, especially when it's a close race, is going to be seen as the event that fills in the gaps.
02:21:44.000And JD Vance, I think, changed that quite a bit.
02:22:23.000I'm sorry, our shirt on our merch site, Trump Vans 24, you see the sign he put up?
02:22:26.000I was like, is that our lawn sign that we put up?
02:22:28.000Because we have the shirts on CrowderShop.com right now.
02:22:31.000Thank you Donald Trump for the plug, I think?
02:22:33.000Let's see CNN panel right now, Anderson Cooper is soiling his panties.
02:22:37.000Yes, I think that is one, that is absolutely true and I thought his first answer on the
02:22:44.000situation in the Middle East was probably one of his weakest answers.
02:22:49.000He closed strong, without a question, and on those questions of abortion, the Affordable Care Act, and of course the end on democracy, I think he did very, very well.
02:23:01.000People are shooting the numbers from thousands across the way.
02:23:07.000Pretty surprisingly to me, he basically said it was more of a draw.
02:23:12.000One thing should be noted, as long as the degree to which we discussed before the debate, there are two J.D.
02:23:33.000He had a mission, and that mission was to be what Donald Trump isn't, which is to be, to sound reasonable, to be courteous to the opponent, to acknowledge that there may have been some reasonableness in the opponent's argument, but I have some other differences.
02:23:50.000I mean, it was really... I will say, I think Van Jones is going to be objective here.
02:23:54.000I think he's going to have to admit that Vance cleaned Tim Walz's clock.
02:23:58.000I'm very curious to see what Kryan Van Jones says.
02:24:02.000I think someone texted me and said, I wonder how many people in the country said, gee I wish these could be the two candidates because they were people who seemed to be having a reasonable discussion.
02:24:14.000Bottom line on this, I don't think it changes the Yeah.
02:24:17.000I think you're in for a rude awakening.
02:24:19.000I think you're in for a rude awakening.
02:24:21.000I was struck by the fact that J.D. Vance is a significantly more eloquent Donald Trump.
02:24:25.000Watching that, I don't agree with J.D. Vance on quite a bit, but he speaks to MAGA in a way that he comes off as an
02:30:38.000They're going to continue lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying up until the election and cheat.
02:30:44.000I guarantee you, just one second, let me go with this.
02:30:48.000Election night, that's why we have these fail-safes, that's why we have the infrastructure in place, the election livestream of the century, the rumble on rumble.
02:30:54.000We fully anticipate being removed from YouTube like we were in the midterms because we had the biggest livestream in 2020 before that.
02:31:00.000We will only be here if you choose for us to be here.
02:31:03.000These events that take place, like tonight, expect them to continue.
02:31:07.000Taking place up until the election, maybe not nationally televised, and that night of the election, they want to gaslight you, they want to erase it, they want to whitewash it, they want to memory hole it.
02:31:16.000Don't expect the media to talk about this for a whole lot of time, just like, remember how quickly they forgot about Kamala Harris' one interview with Dana Bash?
02:31:41.000We are going to be here on election night, no matter how long it takes.
02:31:44.000We have the live electoral integrity map.
02:31:46.000We're going to have that for you, where you can actually go and see us not only help call states, but also dispute states.
02:31:51.000No more Arizona called with 0.0001% of the vote, and that's hyperbole.
02:31:54.000Don't fact check me on it, but you understand the point.
02:31:56.000All major swing states, all major cities in those states, we're going to have on-the-ground undercover journalists, we're going to have on-the-ground correspondents, as well as you, a volunteer army, and you'll be able to click that map and see any shenanigans that take place.
02:32:09.000We're going to have real-time data, we're going to have cross-streams with every major stream that exists online that you want to see.
02:32:14.000There's no reason to tune in anywhere else.
02:32:16.000We have everything the legacy media has and everything that you don't.
02:32:52.000They were talking about electric vehicles in Minnesota, saying that, hey, yeah, you know, that actually brings jobs here to the United States.
02:33:27.000When people are dying from a natural disaster and you start talking about electric vehicles from a company who has no respect for international emission standards, you are anti-human.
02:33:37.000We like to act as though, oh, people are beholden to lobbyists, as though that doesn't happen.
02:33:41.000With the green energy movement, and it certainly couldn't happen with foreign companies who have a vested interest in our electric vehicle policies here.
02:33:50.000You know the one person who they've actually forced out of their far far left deep blue state?
02:33:57.000Probably the most American auto manufacturer out there right now.
02:33:59.000It's arguable, I think Toyota has more.
02:34:03.000But Tesla had to leave California for Texas.
02:34:07.000That should tell you what you need to know as far as electric vehicle policy as a matter of energy.
02:34:12.000Let's go to a claim that they made tonight.
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02:34:21.000The claim that Trump tried to bribe oil executives at Mar-a-Lago.
02:34:25.000He actually told them that if they helped him get elected, they would see their profits increase.
02:34:32.000As opposed to green vehicle manufacturers, or by the way, Wall Street, who helped Barack Obama get elected, or all of media who donate overwhelmingly to the Democratic campaign.
02:34:40.000He basically said, hey, look, you'll probably see your profits go up if I'm elected, because I won't actually slash American energy production, because I made us a net energy exporter for the first time in decades, and Kamala Harris has harmed.
02:34:51.000So, I don't know if you know this, but if the oil executives actually do better, meaning they're able to find more natural resources, I don't know if you know this, but historically, your gas prices go down.
02:35:03.000Here's another claim that they made, uh, that it wasn't true, or at least I guess they were trying to say that, uh, that, uh, what he said wasn't true as far as child sex trafficking and drug mules.
02:35:47.000You can look at there's, I don't know what they call them, police, they call them spot, spotter reports, I'm getting the wrong word, but there's a report.
02:35:55.000They have reports that come out every month.
02:36:00.000He would tell me freaking horror stories about babies coming over in planes, people reporting it, that they went over the Atlantic Ocean and the baby made no noises and the reason was because it was filled with opium or the baby was coming across The Mexican border is filled with cocaine.
02:36:12.000It happens all the time and there are reports to back it up.
02:36:15.000The only problem is they don't have enough time to... Well, we don't have the exact numbers because people don't answer.
02:36:19.000Like, yeah, that's my drug, that's my mule for drugs.
02:36:45.000They were the ones who kept trying to make this an issue.
02:36:48.000And then when Vance and Trump addressed it, right, they go, why do you keep talking about this?
02:36:53.000Tonight they try to bring up the Springfield, Ohio thing as though it was so absurd that Haitian migrants, 20,000 in a city of 50,000 people, I believe, could possibly be eating ducks in the park.
02:37:02.000Or that, I don't know if you know this, there were 911 calls of local animals in parks and domestic animals going missing.
02:37:08.000But, you know, that's neither here nor there.
02:37:10.000One thing that is not in debate is the bomb threats that, of course, Kamala Harris, And Walls themselves have gone on and said, your rhetoric has resulted in bomb threats, which he tried to bring up tonight.
02:37:21.000The Ohio governor said 33 threats, 33 hoaxes.
02:39:56.000You were locked down and you were paintballed if you left your house while rioters and looters were given space to destroy.
02:40:01.000So they always try and tweak those numbers and use that last year, which, by the way, was self-induced by the Democrat Party.
02:40:06.000173 of the 592 returned under Kamala Harris compared to- No, 173 of their total, 592 returned just from COVID.
02:40:14.000I don't know what I'm saying, it's 592 returned from COVID, but only 173 of those returned under Kamala Harris, as opposed to 414,000 returned under Donald Trump.
02:40:21.000I'm sorry, is Tim Walls currently buying pizza to cry into?
02:40:34.000Under Donald Trump, created $418 billion in 2018.
02:40:35.000Trump started the trade war in Q3 of 2018.
02:40:36.000in 2018, Trump started the trade war in Q3 of 2018. By the next year, deficit reduced
02:40:40.000to 22.2% with China. Key fact, they hate tariffs, they're demonizing tariffs. Biden, Harris,
02:40:47.000they have not removed any Trump tariffs on China at all.
02:40:49.000The insulin one I know is one of your favorites.
02:40:52.000Insulin one, Donald Trump was the one who put a $35 cap in Part D, 2020, and then the Biden Inflation Reduction Act, they tried to expand it, claim credit for it, but before the Biden Inflation Reduction Act, which included their component of insulin, it was already down to $33 average.
02:41:09.000So it was already well below 35 because of the initiative from Donald Trump.
02:41:12.000They just said, put my name on there and take credit for it.
02:41:14.000And they talk about the insulin thing so much, but J.D.
02:41:16.000Vance pointed out tonight that no one wanted to fact check that he said that 7% lower was prescription drugs.
02:41:32.000Nine states plus D.C., including Minnesota, do not have any gestational time period bans on abortion.
02:41:39.000And Vance brought up a really good point.
02:41:41.000Hammered it, hammered it, hammered it.
02:41:43.000Basically saying a bill would allow them to let a baby that's born alive, botched abortion, die.
02:41:48.000The bill strips out Minnesota's existing requirement that reasonable measures be taken to preserve the life and health of born alive infants, replacing it with a requirement for care, which the bill's author, Representative Tina Liebling, has described as mere comfort care.
02:42:29.000On the flip side of the coin, that he would sign a federal abortion ban because he's said many, many times, no.
02:42:35.000He wrote, everyone knows I would not support a federal abortion ban under any circumstances and would in fact veto it because it is up to the states to decide based on the will of their voters, the will of the people!
02:43:52.000I'm leading you along the primrose path here because I'm going to give you a stat.
02:43:54.000But you're an alien and you're going, oh my god, this planet Earth is cruel and uncompassionate, dispassionate, whatever word you Earthlings use.
02:45:05.000The entire stat is skewed by gangbangers who can be tried as adults.
02:45:09.000And by the way, if you just take out inner cities, it still wouldn't even register on the radar.
02:45:13.000That's why the press is the enemy of the people.
02:45:15.000Their only job is to equip you with information so that you can make informed decisions to better the lives of your family and your community.
02:45:23.000Otherwise, the media serves no purpose.
02:45:25.000When they lie to you and say the biggest threat you are facing is gun violence, they are making you definitively less safe.
02:45:32.000And it's even worse than that, because they're making you definitively less safe through stoking fear in a tool that if you're a woman, or if you're infirm, would make you definitively more safe.
02:45:44.000At least 2 million defensive uses of firearms every single year.
02:45:50.000So you're concerned about this death as opposed to traffic accidents, as opposed to congenital issues, as opposed to cancer, as opposed to accidents in the house, as opposed to the swimming pool, for God's sake.
02:46:03.000And so you forego a gun, which would, if simply handled responsibly, meaning you have young kids who don't understand how a gun works, you put it in a lockbox, you put it in a safe, would allow you to protect your family.
02:46:15.000The press is actually harming you on an active level.
02:46:20.000And they're enlisting the help of the Democrat Party because they've already decided what their agenda is.
02:46:25.000Nobody on your side will tell you that you don't need a gun.
02:47:17.000We have to get these guns off the street.
02:47:19.000But I also, you know, I have faith in the American people to know that, you know, that we want to comply with our laws and that I know that to be true.
02:47:32.000We have another clip, too, of her saying that she will actually go take your guns away.
02:48:40.000If doubling the cost of health insurance, when your whole plan is to make it more affordable, if the result is double, When do you say, let's try a different direction?
02:49:17.000You know, like Europe, or Canada, where I've had to bury relatives because by the time they could get a screening, because there are more MRI machines in the state of fucking Vermont than the entire country, the entire godforsaken country, and I mean that literally, god has forsaken that country a very long time ago, of Canada, by the time it was detected it was stage 4 lung cancer.
02:49:34.000Take three years to get a family doctor and kid.
02:50:08.000Yeah, because they go back to January 6th, and Judy Vance did a good job going, hey guys, you know the guy who, you know, apparently cheated his way to stay in power?
02:50:15.000He left voluntarily on January 20th, 14 days after January 6th, also after saying peacefully and patriotically, and go home in peace and love.
02:51:35.000Before Senator Vance joined the Trump campaign and fell behind Trump's professed desire for a state-by-state approach to abortion, Vance did support a national abortion ban.
02:51:44.000He said that he changed his mind because his own constituents in Ohio voted against his position!
02:52:14.000This guy's basically saying that Vance was anti-abortion completely until he sided with Trump, and Trump said he's not fully anti-abortion, but no, he is not fully anti-abortion!
02:52:39.000Look, you can't reach the undecided people who vote with their pussies, I'm sorry, at four months.
02:52:45.000At what point are you expected to be responsible?
02:52:47.000Because, by the way, it still allows for, you know, if there's the death of the mother, which could be contributing to our serious health complications, by the way, less than 1%, less than 0.5% of all abortions ever performed for medical necessity.
02:52:57.000So, what point do you have any responsibility?
02:53:00.000In other words, they're saying, we don't want extreme measures.
02:53:02.000You think it's extreme to have a ban on four months.
02:53:04.000By the way, most European countries have it at 12 weeks.
02:54:17.000It's not radical to say a federal abortion ban at 15 weeks, just like I don't think it's radical for socialist countries in Europe to say there's a ban at 12 weeks.
02:54:29.000You don't know you're pregnant at 15 weeks?
02:54:30.000I would argue that most men would assume a day after having unprotected sex that that woman is pregnant and will try everything to get her... Yes!
02:56:04.000We know why people may think Trump is a threat to democracy if they bought the lies that the media has sold.
02:56:08.000The media has never sold anyone the bill of goods that Harris is a threat to democracy, which means in spite of the media, more Americans think that Harris is a threat to democracy.
02:58:10.000One of the aspects of that debate that really stuck with me was when they were talking about January 6th and how Mike Pence had the election and they were wondering if J.D.
02:58:41.000We're going to dig in on some issues in a moment and your reactions to those issues.
02:58:44.000But first I want to talk about what Jake Tapper was just talking about in terms of the tone.
02:58:48.000Everybody seems to agree this was not a debate like we've seen much of over the course of the last eight years, at least I think you said Warm and fuzzy was what came to mind for you.
02:59:11.000I mean, you could watch it and not be offended by the words they were using towards each other.
02:59:16.000And I think to that point, one of the striking things when we were looking at the data, in terms of your guys' responses, is your favorability for both candidates, regardless of how you viewed them coming into the night, went up.
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