Louder with Crowder - Vintage MAGA: Trump's Epic Somalia Rant Isn't Racist - It's Irrefutable

00:00:48.000 Okay, here we go.

00:02:51.000 Welcome to the Rumble lineup live 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. Eastern.

00:02:56.000 It's all free.

00:02:57.000 It's all live.

00:02:58.000 You don't need to change that dial.

00:02:59.000 And I just had to run and take a shower like right now.

00:03:01.000 And so I have the 90s here.

00:03:03.000 If I do this, look, it comes down.

00:03:04.000 Look at that.

00:03:06.000 Yeah, there goes, there goes Josh.

00:03:09.000 It is Retardo Mobile.

00:03:11.000 That's like a bully line that they used to say.

00:03:13.000 Are you really going to say that with that hair?

00:03:14.000 No, I'm not going to say it.

00:03:16.000 President Trump unloaded on Somalia.

00:03:18.000 We're going to talk about that in a rant that you would not have anticipated from the president five years ago, but it's amongst my favorites.

00:03:26.000 And Sabrina Carpenter, well, she's awful. 1.00

00:03:28.000 We have an entertainment minute on that.

00:03:29.000 And more importantly, we do have the very first, it's kind of a bonus, but an installment of Change My Mind that we're airing live here today, but streaming for you, where I was escorted quite promptly by security.

00:03:40.000 And it's a little bit, it was a little bit nerve-wracking.

00:03:43.000 So it's not a complete Change My Mind, but we figured we'd include it as well.

00:03:47.000 Let me ask you this question of the day.

00:03:48.000 What's your favorite Sabrina Carpenter song?

00:03:51.000 Mine is one something she sings about rainy Mondays.

00:03:54.000 Mondays always get me down.

00:03:56.000 Final words were, on with the show.

00:04:04.000 Now that you've had an opportunity to think things over, I'm going to give you the opportunity to talk.

00:04:11.000 Open book, I'll tell you anything, I swear.

00:04:16.000 You're going to be an open chest wound if you don't tell me what I want to hear.

00:04:21.000 Spill the beans on how you refinanced for so long.

00:04:27.000 What?

00:04:28.000 That's all you want to know?

00:04:30.000 That's why you snuck up behind me in the bed against parking lot and hit me over the head?

00:04:34.000 Well, yeah.

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00:04:50.000 That's it?

00:04:50.000 That's it.

00:04:56.000 What did you say?

00:04:57.000 MLS 1-82334.

00:04:59.000 This is just something I have to say.

00:05:01.000 That sounds like fightin' words to me!

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00:05:27.000 Can you say that for yourself if you did it yourself?

00:05:30.000 Probably not.

00:06:12.000 It's cold.

00:06:12.000 Let's get right to it.

00:06:14.000 How are you, Captain Morgan?

00:06:15.000 Good.

00:06:15.000 How are you?

00:06:17.000 I'm fine.

00:06:17.000 Do you like the shirt?

00:06:18.000 Why?

00:06:19.000 Die hardship.

00:06:20.000 I can't see it because there's a lower third.

00:06:22.000 Oh, Die Hard is Christian. 1.00

00:06:23.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:06:24.000 We do that.

00:06:25.000 We do that every year.

00:06:25.000 You have the Hans Gruber countdown advent calendar.

00:06:28.000 It was given as a gift.

00:06:29.000 Yes.

00:06:30.000 How many days until Hans Gruber impacts the ground?

00:06:32.000 Yes.

00:06:32.000 I have the French tickler calendar for Tool Man's Mom.

00:06:35.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:35.000 I have to say I wasn't.

00:06:37.000 It was run through making a lot of moms. 0.99

00:06:39.000 And Toolman goes, you know, my mom watches the show occasionally, so don't say anything.

00:06:42.000 I'm like, well, of course I wouldn't.

00:06:43.000 I didn't say, don't say anything.

00:06:44.000 I love your mother.

00:06:45.000 She's wonderful.

00:06:46.000 Sorry, he said to specifically not say anything about wanting to do the Indian wedding thing.

00:06:51.000 Oh, and then not to be outdone by me, Mr. Josh Firestone.

00:06:55.000 By the way, Friday, December 12th at Hyenas Combo Club in Fort Worth, he decided to go even more 90s bully look.

00:07:01.000 Yeah, I thought you were going screech, so I went Sean from Boy Meets World.

00:07:04.000 That's a little panga.

00:07:07.000 I don't trust anyone.

00:07:08.000 All I want to do is skate.

00:07:09.000 Hey, you want to come over to my trailer and smoke cigarettes?

00:07:12.000 I don't want to wait. 0.99

00:07:16.000 They all have AIDS. 0.99

00:07:17.000 Dawson's leak. Bad leak. 0.99

00:07:25.000 It's a good idea.

00:07:26.000 I'm talking about a trade school, become a plumber.

00:07:28.000 I'm not cut out for college.

00:07:29.000 I'm not like you from the other side of the tracks.

00:07:32.000 I don't know, man.

00:07:33.000 I'll probably just keep working at the warehouse.

00:07:34.000 How'd you change that hair so fast?

00:07:36.000 It looks normal again.

00:07:37.000 What happened?

00:07:38.000 I have a skill.

00:07:39.000 He went from Dawson's Creek to Necromancer Rockabilly.

00:07:45.000 Necromancer Rockabilly.

00:07:47.000 All right.

00:07:47.000 That's kind of a pomp.

00:07:48.000 All right.

00:07:49.000 All rangers can do this.

00:07:50.000 Speaking of people who look different, the Chinese, a Chinese. 1.00

00:07:58.000 From me.

00:07:59.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:08:00.000 Let's make it about me.

00:08:01.000 Oh, sorry.

00:08:02.000 Yes.

00:08:05.000 A Chinese people's armed policeman didn't fare so well during one of the grenade drills.

00:08:16.000 Next great superpower.

00:08:21.000 Well, this is why they don't have a baseball team.

00:08:24.000 You can even see before he threw that he didn't believe in it.

00:08:26.000 He's like, and he drags him into the hole.

00:08:33.000 Hey, shout out the drill instructor there, or whoever that is, whoever that instructor is. 0.98

00:08:40.000 Otherwise, he just reaches to take away from him any more arms.

00:08:45.000 Everything.

00:08:46.000 By the way, why are you throwing it into a decline?

00:08:49.000 Something that would naturally roll the projectile back towards you.

00:08:52.000 Like, have a wall that you can throw, and if it hits the top, it just falls straight down and not roll back towards you.

00:08:58.000 No, you don't do a wall, Gerald, because a wall, then it would just hit immediately.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 Well, I don't know.

00:09:05.000 I don't know.

00:09:05.000 He actually kind of makes a point.

00:09:06.000 I don't like the fact that it is a valid point.

00:09:08.000 It should be.

00:09:09.000 Yeah.

00:09:10.000 I forget how we did it.

00:09:11.000 How about this, this?

00:09:12.000 No Chinese get any more grenades until further notice.

00:09:14.000 There you go.

00:09:15.000 You don't get any more grenades on account of the fact that you can't throw them.

00:09:19.000 That's supposed to be our biggest threat.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, I know.

00:09:21.000 It doesn't roll back towards you.

00:09:22.000 How are you going to get a Darwin award?

00:09:24.000 Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

00:09:26.000 I guess they weren't able to reverse engineer our copyright technology.

00:09:30.000 I don't remember how we did the grenade.

00:09:32.000 Everything slanted.

00:09:34.000 I think we stood in the foxhole.

00:09:35.000 Oh, God.

00:09:38.000 That's racist. 0.74

00:09:39.000 How dare you? 0.98

00:09:40.000 Like, okay, fine, then just throw it.

00:09:43.000 What were you saying about that?

00:09:44.000 I think we do it in a hole.

00:09:46.000 You get like a foxhole and throw it.

00:09:47.000 I don't remember exactly.

00:09:49.000 Well, I mean, what if you drop it in the hole you're already in?

00:09:51.000 Then you can't get out.

00:09:52.000 Then you deserve it.

00:09:53.000 I don't know.

00:09:54.000 I don't know.

00:09:54.000 And I don't think they have foxholes.

00:09:56.000 They call them dragon holes over there.

00:09:57.000 I made a bad throw once.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, did you one time?

00:10:00.000 Yeah, I used my left hand and I.

00:10:02.000 Oh, well, that's not fair.

00:10:03.000 No, I don't judge you for that because only evil people are lefties. 0.97

00:10:06.000 So anyway, the video, it's just like one of the Olsen twins.

00:10:10.000 One of them, the one that's always on the left is evil.

00:10:12.000 That's what Johnny Boy and I think.

00:10:14.000 The video only tells you half the story, though.

00:10:16.000 And in this show, we always want to provide context, right?

00:10:18.000 We hate it when people take folks out of context.

00:10:20.000 So we got our hands on some exclusive audio that explains it.

00:10:24.000 No, no, no, no.

00:10:25.000 On three of you, throw grenade. 1.00

00:10:28.000 Oh, no.

00:10:29.000 I said, on three, not throw 3-seat.

00:10:32.000 Run in the hole.

00:10:33.000 We will all die. 1.00

00:10:34.000 You stupid. 1.00

00:10:35.000 You ran on my bag. 1.00

00:10:36.000 And he's so sorry.

00:10:38.000 It's okay.

00:10:39.000 I did the same thing one time.

00:10:40.000 We don't throw very well.

00:10:42.000 Help me out this hole.

00:10:43.000 Watching Cookie Walk, right?

00:10:45.000 This is bad day.

00:10:46.000 Bad day.

00:10:51.000 I feel like these Chinese armed policemen, they need to focus a little more. 0.97

00:10:56.000 If you're less distracted.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, why are the police using grenades, too?

00:10:59.000 Is that a normal police do use grenades?

00:11:02.000 It's China. 0.90

00:11:02.000 In China, they do. 0.90

00:11:03.000 Slash bags and stuff like that.

00:11:04.000 They don't follow by the same rules.

00:11:06.000 No.

00:11:06.000 No, they just don't know how to use them.

00:11:07.000 By the way, you were going to mention this.

00:11:09.000 Yeah, there's a really good deal right now.

00:11:10.000 Get any two shirts for $39 right now at crowdershop.com.

00:11:14.000 And also, Foundation Daily is now 30% off these deals, only lasting until Friday.

00:11:19.000 Okay.

00:11:22.000 Get the Die Hard as a Christmas movie shirt just to piss off the shop.

00:11:24.000 Also, yeah, of course, I forgot to tell you guys, Nick Fuentes will be on the show tomorrow.

00:11:28.000 I know it's a no-win scenario for a lot of people.

00:11:30.000 Some people are mad that I'm quote-unquote platforming him.

00:11:32.000 And then, of course, you're going to have people who are mad that I'm paid by the Jews if I disagree with them.

00:11:36.000 Just wait and watch.

00:11:39.000 Yeah, but he does.

00:11:40.000 I mean, I hear it on good authority that he thinks Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

00:11:43.000 Oh, there you go.

00:11:44.000 You can find some ground ground.

00:11:45.000 Well, he probably thinks that because of the whole Christmas part of it, but I think he views Hans Gruber as the hero.

00:11:52.000 I'm joking.

00:11:55.000 How about that Evan calendar you got, Gerald?

00:11:57.000 I know.

00:11:58.000 We already talked about that.

00:11:59.000 Were you here?

00:11:59.000 Oh, I guess not.

00:12:01.000 It transitioned into a really stinging joke about Tim's biological mother.

00:12:06.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:12:07.000 Your mustache and her boobs. 1.00

00:12:09.000 Yes. 1.00

00:12:09.000 Oh. 1.00

00:12:10.000 No, actually, I didn't like that.

00:12:11.000 Jeez.

00:12:12.000 I hope you're not watching tonight.

00:12:13.000 Mrs. Toolman Tim, we've been in a rush, Ashana kick.

00:12:17.000 It was less a joke about you.

00:12:18.000 It was a matter of time.

00:12:19.000 I said that just despite Toolman Tim, I would have you legally adopt me and I would marry his sister just so I could spite suckle you and look him in the eye. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Oh my god. 0.87

00:12:30.000 I don't even need a moment.

00:12:32.000 Back to yesterday, Mom.

00:12:34.000 Don't you act out?

00:12:35.000 And just to clear.

00:12:36.000 Look, men, comment below.

00:12:38.000 Women don't understand this. 1.00

00:12:39.000 You lost this.

00:12:40.000 Men, comment.

00:12:41.000 Every one of your friends has the mother who's lovely.

00:12:44.000 When you come over, she brings you pizza rolls.

00:12:46.000 And then there's the fictional mother against whom you perform unspeakable acts.

00:12:50.000 That's how men operate. 0.95

00:12:52.000 It's not really you.

00:12:55.000 That's like the insult.

00:12:56.000 Yeah, in fact.

00:13:00.000 But in this case, it has to be the real one to make him mad just despite him.

00:13:05.000 You kind of talked yourself.

00:13:06.000 I don't know what I'm doing. 0.80

00:13:08.000 I am petty, small-minded, and vulgar.

00:13:11.000 There we go. 1.00

00:13:12.000 He wants to suck on your mom's tip. 1.00

00:13:15.000 I don't want to. 1.00

00:13:16.000 I have to.

00:13:17.000 You have to.

00:13:18.000 Hey, Gerald, that's his brother-in-law you're talking to, pal.

00:13:25.000 You know what?

00:13:26.000 You're right.

00:13:27.000 Apologies to all involved.

00:13:28.000 I told you the story.

00:13:30.000 I told you the real story about my father when he was.

00:13:32.000 This is true.

00:13:33.000 I've told it on Mug Club a long time ago, Rumble Premium.

00:13:35.000 You miss a lot.

00:13:36.000 This feels more like Mug Club right now.

00:13:38.000 But my father moved to Quebec, and a lot of people want to live in Quebec.

00:13:42.000 Once you go rural, it's very much like rednecks here. 1.00

00:13:44.000 And my dad was playing in a house hockey league.

00:13:46.000 And do you remember the story?

00:13:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:50.000 And my mom's brother-in-law, so my dad's brother-in-law, big family.

00:13:55.000 He was older and he was getting roughed up a little bit.

00:13:57.000 And so my dad, at the face-off, he stopped and he told this guy, he said, hey, careful, careful with some of those penalties.

00:14:05.000 He's my brother-in-law.

00:14:06.000 And the guy turns to him, and I swear, clear as day, he says, he's my brother-in-law, too.

00:14:13.000 What backwards, inbred Somalia? 1.00

00:14:16.000 Where am I?

00:14:17.000 Which brings us to Somalia.

00:14:20.000 Let me provide some context first.

00:14:22.000 And if you ever went to go see any of the stand-up shows, I've had a long, long bit on this.

00:14:26.000 Do you remember when President Trump called Haiti, if you have kids, they shouldn't be watching?

00:14:30.000 Remember when President Trump called Haiti a shithole?

00:14:32.000 And all of a sudden, those on the left, including like Conan O'Brien, they were talking about how it was the world's most beautiful country.

00:14:37.000 You shouldn't say shithole.

00:14:38.000 Remember that? 0.86

00:14:39.000 You can't believe that you would say so.

00:14:41.000 I thought it was appropriate.

00:14:42.000 I supported it then, and I support it now.

00:14:45.000 Now I'm going to play you President Trump's latest rant.

00:14:48.000 And I don't think this is something that you could have pictured maybe five years ago.

00:14:52.000 So I consider it a win, and I'm here for it.

00:14:55.000 Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dollars.

00:15:01.000 Billions.

00:15:02.000 Every year.

00:15:04.000 Billions of dollars.

00:15:06.000 And they contribute nothing.

00:15:09.000 The welfare is like 88%.

00:15:12.000 They contribute nothing.

00:15:14.000 I don't want them in our country, I'll be honest with you.

00:15:17.000 Somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct.

00:15:19.000 I don't care.

00:15:20.000 I don't want them in our country.

00:15:21.000 Their country is no good for a reason. 0.99

00:15:24.000 Their country stinks. 0.98

00:15:26.000 And we don't want them in our country. 0.98

00:15:27.000 I could say that about other countries, too.

00:15:30.000 I could say it about other countries, too.

00:15:32.000 We don't want them to hell.

00:15:34.000 We have to rebuild our country.

00:15:36.000 You know, our country's at a tipping point.

00:15:39.000 We could go bad.

00:15:40.000 We're at a tipping point.

00:15:41.000 I don't know if people mind me saying that, but I'm saying that we could go one way or the other.

00:15:47.000 And we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country. 1.00

00:15:52.000 Elon Omar is garbage. 1.00

00:15:54.000 She's garbage. 1.00

00:15:56.000 Her friends are garbage. 1.00

00:15:58.000 These are people that work. 1.00

00:15:59.000 These are people that say, let's go.

00:16:00.000 Come on, let's make this place great. 0.97

00:16:02.000 These are people that do nothing but complain.

00:16:06.000 They complain.

00:16:07.000 And from where they came from, they got nothing.

00:16:11.000 You know, they came from paradise and they said this isn't paradise. 1.00

00:16:15.000 But when they come from hell and they complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our country. 1.00

00:16:24.000 Let them go back to where they came from and fix it. 1.00

00:16:30.000 Thank you very much, Picker.

00:16:33.000 People got, they were so inspired.

00:16:35.000 That room, Scott Besson went home and hate-banged his boyfriend.

00:16:39.000 I feel like he was the fist banging on the table of our Scottish. 1.00

00:16:43.000 That'd be the most boring gay sex of all time. 1.00

00:16:46.000 That guy's so boring. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Let's discuss fiscal policy.

00:16:49.000 How do you like compound interest?

00:16:52.000 Yeah, Josh, you don't have to.

00:16:53.000 Divide these legs and find a dividend.

00:16:57.000 I don't.

00:17:00.000 I don't know.

00:17:02.000 I don't know.

00:17:02.000 I do.

00:17:03.000 I do.

00:17:05.000 I will say this, for as much as we called out President Trump for being inarticulate yesterday, saying, oh, the inflation crisis, the cost, it's a leftist hoax.

00:17:15.000 I know what he's trying to say.

00:17:16.000 Same thing with the Epstein folders saying, you know, it's a Democrat hoax.

00:17:20.000 What he means is them implying that he's in there.

00:17:22.000 He nailed this one.

00:17:23.000 Yeah.

00:17:24.000 He nailed this one where he didn't just say, oh, Somalis need to go. 0.99

00:17:27.000 He said, they come from hell. 1.00

00:17:29.000 They come here and they complain and they bitch. 1.00

00:17:33.000 If you're just going to come here and complain and bitch, then go back and make that place better. 1.00

00:17:37.000 Yep. 0.99

00:17:38.000 Race didn't enter into the equation. 0.97

00:17:40.000 Objectively, Somalia is a hell hole. 1.00

00:17:44.000 And anyone coming from there shouldn't wave its flag if they're grateful to be here. 1.00

00:17:49.000 I don't think, I don't think he could have, in his Trump way, I don't think he could have said it better.

00:17:54.000 Yeah.

00:17:55.000 And they don't come here and work to make it better.

00:17:57.000 That's what he said.

00:17:57.000 They don't come here and go, let's, hey, let's go.

00:17:59.000 Let's make this place better.

00:18:01.000 No, they just complain.

00:18:02.000 Right.

00:18:03.000 Yeah.

00:18:04.000 That's the attitude we want people to have.

00:18:06.000 Get here, work to make it better.

00:18:08.000 Yep.

00:18:09.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 Perfect.

00:18:10.000 And last night, the White House released a four-page memo detailing an immigration pause from 19 countries.

00:18:17.000 19 countries.

00:18:17.000 You can check the references link in the description.

00:18:19.000 So the DHS Secretary, Kirsty Noam, Christy Noam, sorry, they got to think about that.

00:18:23.000 Met with President Trump and recommended some additional countries to be added to the list.

00:18:29.000 She said, I just met with President Trump. 1.00

00:18:30.000 I'm recommending a full travel ban on every damn country that's been flooding our nation with killers, leeches, and entitlement junkies. 0.99

00:18:37.000 Our forefathers built this nation on blood, sweat, and the unyielding love of freedom, not for foreign invaders to slaughter our heroes, suck dry our hard-earned tax dollars, or snatch the benefits owed to Americans. 0.99

00:18:50.000 We don't want them, not one.

00:18:54.000 Yeah.

00:18:54.000 And then she shot a dog.

00:18:55.000 Yeah.

00:18:56.000 I was going to say it's mostly dog freeds.

00:18:58.000 She went, go on, get. 0.97

00:19:00.000 I never loved you anyway.

00:19:03.000 Now dance.

00:19:05.000 She seems to enjoy it. 0.98

00:19:07.000 I'm going to give you to the count of 10 to get your low-down, butt-sniffing carcass out my door. 1.00

00:19:16.000 To drag your ass on the carpet out my door. 1.00

00:19:20.000 No good yellow lab. 1.00

00:19:24.000 No good.

00:19:24.000 Yellow lab, golden doodle, Mitch Breed, out my door.

00:19:29.000 Woohoo! 1.00

00:19:30.000 You know what?

00:19:31.000 I believe you.

00:19:35.000 But my shot collar don't.

00:19:37.000 Maybe I'm off my leash.

00:19:40.000 But I believe you.

00:19:45.000 That's why I'm going to give you four treats. 1.00

00:19:50.000 Angels with filthy mutts.

00:19:53.000 It's just when you hit the pressure valve every now and then. 0.98

00:19:56.000 This was articulated really fast.

00:19:58.000 Now I'm picturing a golden retrieval.

00:20:00.000 I yell at an angel with Kilsa.

00:20:03.000 Roll over and over the move for you.

00:20:07.000 Oh, yeah, well, you was here.

00:20:09.000 You love me. 0.98

00:20:10.000 And you were licking my brother. 0.99

00:20:11.000 You was here. 1.00

00:20:12.000 You were humping with your brother. 0.76

00:20:16.000 I saw the litter. 0.88

00:20:17.000 You were humping everyone.

00:20:19.000 Spot, bingo, Rocky.

00:20:22.000 Rex Rover with the gimpy leg.

00:20:26.000 IT'S ALRIGHT!

00:20:33.000 Okay.

00:20:38.000 All right.

00:20:38.000 Okay.

00:20:38.000 That's enough dog-themed humal.

00:20:41.000 That's not exactly.

00:20:42.000 Mediterranean.

00:20:43.000 Homeward Bound Alone?

00:20:47.000 All right.

00:20:48.000 Okay.

00:20:48.000 So the reaction.

00:20:50.000 The reaction to what was articulated perfectly.

00:20:52.000 Let me ask you this.

00:20:53.000 If you disagree with this, with which part do you disagree?

00:20:59.000 And which part is racist?

00:21:01.000 This is talking about people from countries and their behavior.

00:21:05.000 And by the way, what they bring to the country versus what they take.

00:21:08.000 Tell me what is morally wrong with this.

00:21:12.000 And then please wag your finger at every other nation.

00:21:17.000 Including, by the way, some of the Nordic nations that you love to praise.

00:21:20.000 Including, by the way, some of the more socialist, some of the more centrally planned economies who are far more stringent on who can come in and what is required to benefit from their social safety nets.

00:21:30.000 Wag your finger there.

00:21:31.000 Tell me what you can comment.

00:21:33.000 Tell me what you think is wrong.

00:21:34.000 I can tell you what the leftist rags thought was wrong.

00:21:37.000 This comes from the New York Times.

00:21:38.000 They wrote this. 0.93

00:21:40.000 Even for Mr. Trump, who has a long history of insulting black people, particularly those from African countries. 0.95

00:21:50.000 I mean, I guess you mean like... 0.91

00:21:51.000 So you mean African people.

00:21:52.000 Yeah, you mean not, you don't include like the Caribbean island people?

00:21:56.000 So pretty much everyone but Jamaica and kind of Trinidad and or Tobago.

00:22:00.000 He likes islands.

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:01.000 Some of them.

00:22:03.000 Particularly those from African countries.

00:22:04.000 His outburst was shocking in its unapologetic bigotry.

00:22:08.000 Oh, that's what we're going with, not racist bigotry.

00:22:11.000 And it comes as he started a new ICE operation targeting Somalis in the Minneapolis-St. Paul region.

00:22:21.000 Nice.

00:22:22.000 We're saying the same thing, at least that last part.

00:22:25.000 This comes from the New York Times last week.

00:22:27.000 Over the last five years, law enforcement officials say fraud took root in pockets of Minnesota's Somali diaspora as scores of individuals made small fortunes by setting up companies that build state agencies for millions of dollars worth of social services that were never provided.

00:22:42.000 Oh, well, there's that also.

00:22:45.000 So there's, I mean, he just shouldn't address it.

00:22:47.000 I like how they said scores of individuals.

00:22:49.000 They have to use the word individuals so they can make it sound like it's not a whole culture, it's individuals.

00:22:53.000 Right.

00:22:53.000 I mean, it's scores of them, which is another way of saying more than 20.

00:22:57.000 Yeah, it's another way of saying we apply identity politics when we want to tell you that this whole group is good and you can't discriminate against them.

00:23:04.000 But then when it's scores of them, groups of them, it's just groups of individuals who aren't acting in concert. 0.98

00:23:11.000 By the way, Somali concerts suck. 1.00

00:23:15.000 What do they do? 0.99

00:23:16.000 This is like two guys with a recorder, one with an oboe, and they're just, you know, inbreeding.

00:23:20.000 Oh, on the stage?

00:23:22.000 Yeah.

00:23:22.000 It's not a concept.

00:23:23.000 That's their only, look, it's their only card.

00:23:25.000 Like, that's their gimmick, and it's all they have.

00:23:27.000 Their version of Oli fans.

00:23:29.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:23:31.000 Brooklyn Dad wrote, Trump, speaking about Somalians here is the most racist president we've ever had. 0.74

00:23:41.000 He doesn't talk like this about white immigrants from Denmark, Sweden, South Africa, but black and brown people? 0.99

00:23:48.000 He can't even hide his hatred anymore.

00:23:53.000 Didn't like, I don't know, 15 or 20 presidents own slaves.

00:23:57.000 Yeah.

00:23:59.000 Is that we're just going to forget about those?

00:24:01.000 Also, they're on our money.

00:24:02.000 How about this?

00:24:03.000 This is also something that's kind of important.

00:24:05.000 First off, people from Denmark, Sweden, South Africa, they don't tend to be a net drain on the taxpayer.

00:24:09.000 What's kind of surprising, I've talked about this quite a bit, is if you take the Danish, you take some Danish people from Denmark and you bring them to the States, sure, they have a higher quality of life in Denmark than the average American.

00:24:20.000 That's because obviously we have people from all different races, stripes, creeds, and much larger populations.

00:24:26.000 There's a bigger wealth gap.

00:24:27.000 Danes have a 50% higher quality of life in the United States than in Denmark. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Swedes in America have a 50% higher quality of life than Swedes in Sweden. 0.88

00:24:37.000 Also, these people wave the flag and they're happy to be here.

00:24:40.000 Also, one other thing, too, Denmark, Sweden, there are a lot of slavery there because there still is in places like Somalia.

00:24:48.000 I mean, if we're just applying the standard, I would think that would bother you more than Donald Trump calling out these places that still practice slavery, a lot of them, as hell holes.

00:24:57.000 What's offensive about that?

00:24:58.000 Didn't you say that the United States was hell on earth?

00:25:00.000 Because at one point in time, we practiced slavery along with the rest of the world.

00:25:04.000 Well, what about the countries that still practice it?

00:25:07.000 In the countries like Denmark and Sweden, people aren't leaving.

00:25:10.000 Right.

00:25:10.000 I mean, sure, there's some immigrants.

00:25:11.000 They want to come here for a better opportunity, but that's because they already have some kind of business or some kind of an endeavor that they're working on and they want to come to the America, to the States.

00:25:18.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 They figured out, they figured out things in their country.

00:25:21.000 They figured out things like having sex with people that you're not related to.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:24.000 That's a big thing.

00:25:25.000 Yeah, it's good for your brain.

00:25:26.000 It's good for your brain.

00:25:27.000 You feel better.

00:25:29.000 You have more pep in your step when you're not inbred and your feet aren't flippers.

00:25:33.000 But here's something else that people need to take into account.

00:25:35.000 People coming from Denmark, Sweden, and yeah, they do have more, you know, more sort of social safety nets, if you want to talk about it that way.

00:25:42.000 So they're leaving that, which usually means they're leaving the security of a more centrally planned economy for opportunity in the United States.

00:25:50.000 So often these people are owners, they're business owners, they're entrepreneurs.

00:25:53.000 Whereas someone coming from Somalia, they're leaving certain deaths for free stuff. 1.00

00:25:59.000 They already have free stuff in Denmark, in Sweden, countries like that.

00:26:04.000 They already have free stuff in a lot of these European countries.

00:26:06.000 They're saying, yeah, you know what?

00:26:07.000 The free stuff doesn't work for me.

00:26:09.000 I want to go to the United States because I actually want to reap the fruits of my labor, really.

00:26:14.000 That's what it is.

00:26:15.000 Dr. Allison Wiltz wrote about President Trump's awesome rant.

00:26:19.000 Targeting people they suspect are Somali means ICE will be racially profiling black Americans.

00:26:24.000 Let me be clear here.

00:26:26.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:26:27.000 It's pretty hard for me to tell like Koreans and Japanese apart. 1.00

00:26:30.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:26:33.000 Like same thing with LaOcean, Cambodian, they can kind of be the same. 0.99

00:26:36.000 I probably would be the same with people from the Democratic Republic of Congo versus the other Congo one. 1.00

00:26:43.000 But no one's going to be mistaking Michael B. Jordan for a Somali. 0.89

00:26:47.000 Like they are very easily identifiable, often because, and not because of their race, to be clear, because of the hardcore ugliness due to generations of inbreeding, right?

00:26:58.000 Like half, half of Somalis, that's why they have the weird look and they're malnourished. 1.00

00:27:04.000 It's pretty easily identifiable.

00:27:06.000 Like we could, we should do this a new game, spot the Somali. 1.00

00:27:09.000 Oh, that would be a funny answer.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, easy.

00:27:10.000 I might do that one.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:12.000 Yeah.

00:27:13.000 Maybe they're trick us with a white Somalian. 1.00

00:27:15.000 No, no, I don't think they're, I think, I don't think there was one.

00:27:18.000 There's also the fact that, you know, ICE is not just, you know, hanging out waiting for black or now Hispanic people.

00:27:23.000 They're not just waiting for a certain profile of person to be walking around and then tackle them.

00:27:27.000 They have criminal histories.

00:27:29.000 And they go to a place where this person works.

00:27:31.000 And then, oh, what do you know?

00:27:32.000 The Somali restaurant who serves only Somali food has a bunch of Somalis working in the kitchen.

00:27:36.000 And, oh, well, look at that.

00:27:38.000 We just won the jackpot.

00:27:39.000 We're going to take you out of racially profiling.

00:27:41.000 In the ice truck.

00:27:42.000 And, you know, while I'm here, I'll have the number two, the sandbowl and well water.

00:27:46.000 Get that to go.

00:27:48.000 Yes, I'll take the UN bag of rice.

00:27:50.000 Yes, exactly.

00:27:52.000 I'll take the half-eaten MRE that someone left. 0.99

00:27:56.000 Ben Stiller wrote on X, Somalis are not garbage. 0.92

00:27:59.000 Immigrants and refugees from anywhere are people like you and me. 0.98

00:28:02.000 They should not be demonized.

00:28:03.000 He didn't demonize people.

00:28:05.000 He demonized the country.

00:28:07.000 He demonized what they practice in their country, and he demonized people who come here and engage in, demand that we engage in or continue said practices.

00:28:17.000 He's demonizing behavior.

00:28:19.000 He also demonized one person.

00:28:21.000 Right. 1.00

00:28:22.000 He said Elon Omar is garbage. 1.00

00:28:23.000 Right. 1.00

00:28:24.000 That's one person.

00:28:25.000 Someone who's called him a Nazi.

00:28:26.000 Right.

00:28:26.000 Someone who's called him a fascist.

00:28:28.000 Someone said, we have to fight him.

00:28:29.000 We have to get him out of office.

00:28:30.000 We have to do everything we can. 1.00

00:28:31.000 Someone who wouldn't condemn Charlie Kirk's murder, somebody who's a piece of shit. 1.00

00:28:34.000 She's garbage. 1.00

00:28:35.000 She is. 1.00

00:28:35.000 She's garbage. 1.00

00:28:36.000 That's the one person he called garbage is garbage. 1.00

00:28:38.000 She's brother marion garbage. 1.00

00:28:40.000 And she has said that she is here to represent Somalia. 0.98

00:28:43.000 We should have no representatives of any other country ever in our halls of government. 0.74

00:28:48.000 How about that?

00:28:49.000 This isn't the UN.

00:28:50.000 You are elected to represent the American people.

00:28:53.000 And no, that does not mean an enclave of vitamin D deficient Somalis in St. Paul.

00:28:59.000 By the way, Ben Stiller talking about, he said, there's more to it.

00:29:02.000 He said, this country is built on the backs of people who have come from other places. 0.97

00:29:05.000 There's that tired old trope.

00:29:07.000 It's what our country is all about.

00:29:09.000 By the way. 0.61

00:29:10.000 Got a geeky good brain. 0.81

00:29:12.000 Yeah. 0.69

00:29:14.000 Stiller lives in Chappaqua, New York, which is 74% white, only 1% born in Africa.

00:29:22.000 Well, he doesn't want to be around them.

00:29:23.000 No, no, no.

00:29:23.000 Yeah, it's for you.

00:29:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:24.000 Not for him.

00:29:25.000 He thinks everybody else should be.

00:29:26.000 Just like Jon Stewart yesterday.

00:29:28.000 Yeah.

00:29:29.000 And by the way, there's a very big difference, too.

00:29:31.000 And we're even talking about no one is talking about black Americans who live in your neighborhood.

00:29:37.000 No one is talking about people who've been a part of the American fabric for a very long time.

00:29:41.000 I mean, you can say what you want about black Americans, and there's a crime problem, and you can say what you want about the racial division that's been stoked by people like Barack Obama.

00:29:47.000 It's worse than ever in my lifetime.

00:29:49.000 For more proof, go see black and white in the gray issues and some of the entitlement, right, the mindset.

00:29:54.000 But black Americans are often, and I would even say black Democrats, much more patriotic, by and large, than white liberals in this country.

00:30:03.000 I'd agree with that.

00:30:04.000 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 They had a better sense of community.

00:30:06.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:30:07.000 They definitely have that.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, they also have God.

00:30:09.000 That's true.

00:30:11.000 Somalis, not so much. 0.97

00:30:12.000 Somalis, not so much. 0.97

00:30:13.000 They just have, well, they just have the warm embrace of their sibling.

00:30:17.000 And now the Minneapolis mayor, remember the guy who was kneeling for Black Lives Matter with a mask on?

00:30:24.000 Yeah, George Floyd's casket.

00:30:26.000 He knelt and cried.

00:30:27.000 Did his casket have spinners?

00:30:28.000 I don't think so.

00:30:29.000 We'll get back to it.

00:30:30.000 So Mayor Frey promised to protect the Somali community against federal agents, and he began speaking in tongues mid-speech.

00:30:37.000 I'm sorry, Somalian. 1.00

00:30:39.000 Good afternoon.

00:30:40.000 My name is Jacob Fry Fry.

00:30:41.000 I'm the mayor of Minneapolis, and we are here to respond to a number of credible reports from several media.

00:30:51.000 The land that there are as many as 100 federal agents that will be deployed to the Twin Cities with a specific focus on targeting our Somali community, to our Somali community.

00:31:05.000 Daman Shabka.

00:31:07.000 Somaliate Kunul.

00:31:09.000 Minnesota, Garahan, Minneapolis, Wahan, Kuji, Janil Ahai, Wahan, Ku, Gereb, Taganahan.

00:31:24.000 Audio's missing out on that one.

00:31:28.000 For those of you who still listen to this on audio only, for the love of God, why?

00:31:32.000 You're missing everything.

00:31:33.000 And for those of you going, are those the real captions?

00:31:35.000 I am assuming that you are an adult.

00:31:38.000 Also, yes.

00:31:39.000 Yes.

00:31:40.000 Yeah, well.

00:31:41.000 Media Matters is already documenting it.

00:31:43.000 Maybe not the.

00:31:44.000 We are the furthest right-wing and least accurate show in news and entertainment, according to that study.

00:31:51.000 Because of that, yeah.

00:31:54.000 It is not true.

00:31:55.000 Yeah, by the way, they didn't do it everywhere.

00:31:58.000 I can see that is a write-up in the New York Times looking bad.

00:32:01.000 Oh, I know.

00:32:02.000 Like then they played a clip and the subtitle said, I bang my brother on the stairs.

00:32:06.000 I bang my brother everywhere.

00:32:07.000 When in fact, Mayor Frog was saying that he appreciated the Somali community.

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00:33:13.000 Can we do this in Somali?

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00:33:22.000 All right.

00:33:24.000 It's time for Sabrina the Teenage Hunter.

00:33:29.000 No, wrong name.

00:33:31.000 It's a different male occupation. 0.70

00:33:32.000 Oh, she was Sabrina Carpenter.

00:33:36.000 Not to be confused with Sabrina.

00:33:38.000 She practices the fitter. 0.92

00:33:40.000 She practices the carpentry every fortnight.

00:33:43.000 Oh.

00:33:44.000 Well, she has decided to wait in.

00:33:47.000 Sabrina Carpenter has decided to wade into the immigration debate. 0.99

00:33:51.000 Guess how this goes?

00:33:51.000 it's time for Entertainment Minute.

00:34:03.000 I just forgot.

00:34:03.000 We need to update that.

00:34:04.000 Remember when Caitlin Jenner was a thing?

00:34:06.000 I know, right?

00:34:07.000 People just don't realize how bad it can get and how bad it got.

00:34:10.000 Yeah, well, your Pops Crowder does because he had to dress, said Caitlin Jenner.

00:34:15.000 Yeah, he did.

00:34:15.000 There's a restaurant in Texas that recently got in trouble because they had their restrooms.

00:34:19.000 Yeah.

00:34:20.000 Where Bruce Jenner for the men and Caitlin Jenner for the women.

00:34:23.000 I love it.

00:34:24.000 You know what, though?

00:34:24.000 I bet he would find that funny.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:34:27.000 So, you know, not as bad as the new breed of Tranny. 1.00

00:34:32.000 The White House, along with that awesome rant speech that you just saw from Donald Trump, they just released a new video on the topic of deportations, and it featured Sabrina Carpenter's song, Juno.

00:34:43.000 And I'm not super familiar with the song, but I do like the video.

00:34:57.000 I know you want my touch for love.

00:35:04.000 Yeah, I didn't.

00:35:06.000 I don't listen to Sabrina Carpenter, but I like that.

00:35:08.000 It was a little catchy.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 That after the Franklin the Turtle image, it's just, I'm enjoying it.

00:35:13.000 Doesn't mean that it should be the only thing.

00:35:14.000 You guys need to deal with the issues that really are affecting people, but you know, a little bit of trolling.

00:35:17.000 Do the comedy team over there?

00:35:19.000 I think so.

00:35:20.000 I want to know who's on that date.

00:35:21.000 They probably won't out themselves.

00:35:22.000 No, they definitely won't.

00:35:23.000 No, that's anonymous.

00:35:24.000 The caption said, it was, sorry, yeah, this is the caption.

00:35:28.000 It read, have you ever tried this one?

00:35:30.000 Bye-bye.

00:35:31.000 Now, Carpenter was not happy about it.

00:35:33.000 Surprise. 0.95

00:35:33.000 She wrote on X, this video is evil and disgusting. 0.95

00:35:36.000 Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.

00:35:44.000 Okay.

00:35:45.000 I guess I don't understand how the internet works.

00:35:47.000 It's true.

00:35:48.000 These artists.

00:35:48.000 So the White House fired back and they wrote, here's a short and sweet message for Serena Carpenter.

00:35:54.000 We won't apologize for deporting dangerous criminal, illegal murderers, rapists, and pedophiles from our country. 1.00

00:35:59.000 Anyone who would defend these sick monsters must be stupid or is it slow? 1.00

00:36:05.000 That was pretty fun. 1.00

00:36:07.000 Now, they did recut the piece anyway with a song that is in public domain.

00:36:13.000 Take you out of the country.

00:36:16.000 Take you far, far away. 0.99

00:36:20.000 Overstate visas and criminals. 0.98

00:36:25.000 I don't care if you ever come back. 1.00

00:36:28.000 So it's get the f out of my country. 0.96

00:36:32.000 If you self-deport, that is great.

00:36:36.000 Cause it's one, two, three, Ice agents at your door today.

00:36:45.000 It's fun and educational.

00:36:47.000 I think so.

00:36:48.000 And it's royalty-free.

00:36:49.000 And it's American.

00:36:50.000 You have a seventh inning arrest.

00:36:54.000 What is this, a Dodgers game?

00:36:57.000 Deport!

00:37:01.000 Sorry.

00:37:05.000 Nice one, Billy.

00:37:07.000 So here, I'm going to rapid fire this for you, and please do check the links in the description.

00:37:11.000 But she said this is evil and inhumane.

00:37:15.000 Talking about the video, deporting hardened, violent criminals.

00:37:18.000 Well, let me ask you, which one of these is inhumane?

00:37:22.000 Is it the arrest in the action of arresting, deporting illegals? 0.95

00:37:27.000 That's evil and inhumane.

00:37:28.000 Or is evil and inhumane, would that be like murdering a nursing student who is jogging Lake and Riley? 0.99

00:37:34.000 Or raping and murdering a mother of five, Rachel Moran, or strangling a teenager to death, Jocelyn Nungre, or murdering a woman, beheading her, stuffing her in a barrel, Megan Boss. 0.96

00:37:43.000 Raping, murdering an autistic woman, Kayla Hamilton. 0.98

00:37:46.000 Murdering a 15-year-old trying to stop the rape of his mother. 0.93

00:37:49.000 That was Louis Juxan Nanez-Lopez, I believe.

00:37:52.000 Murdering two teens after drinking and driving, Paula Sokin and Anya Varfolomiv.

00:37:57.000 I've never said that name.

00:37:58.000 Murdering and then beheading a motel owner.

00:38:01.000 Remember that one? 0.84

00:38:01.000 After just a basic dispute? 0.84

00:38:04.000 Chandra Nagamalaya, murdering three people.

00:38:07.000 Remember this one?

00:38:08.000 Murdering three people after making an illegal U-turn in a semi-truck?

00:38:10.000 That was a big deal.

00:38:11.000 Is that evil?

00:38:12.000 How about trafficking hundreds of thousands of illegal minors into our country, leading to and contributing as well to the most amount of slaves ever in human history?

00:38:21.000 Or how about we soften it, just stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from Minnesota taxpayers through fraud, which was funded by terrorist Al-Shabaab?

00:38:29.000 How about costing American taxpayers $150 to $450 billion annually?

00:38:34.000 Is that evil?

00:38:35.000 Is that evil and wrong and disgusting?

00:38:37.000 Or deporting said people? 0.97

00:38:39.000 Or is disgusting and wrong maybe just your cringy, non-sexual ASMR video? 0.94

00:38:48.000 Wow. 0.96

00:38:51.000 I'd like to request a song in my bed.

00:38:56.000 Bye.

00:38:59.000 Ugh.

00:39:00.000 Carpenter.

00:39:02.000 I don't know the ASMR.

00:39:03.000 I don't get it.

00:39:04.000 I don't either.

00:39:05.000 I don't know if that's meant to be sexual.

00:39:06.000 I don't think so.

00:39:07.000 I think it's like a sensory sensation for, I don't know, for autistic people or something.

00:39:12.000 I don't really know how it works.

00:39:13.000 Why does she have to order from her bed? 1.00

00:39:16.000 I think, well, I think she's making it sexual.

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 She makes herself very sexual. 0.66

00:39:21.000 She doesn't wear pants ever, I think.

00:39:22.000 I don't know any of her songs, but I know who she is.

00:39:24.000 She's all over TV and media, and she's like, you know, three foot tall and almost naked all the time. 1.00

00:39:30.000 Well, with her, it could be, I guess it's Rosh Hashanah every day.

00:39:34.000 And it can be if you keep the spirit of Rosh Hashanah in your heart all year round.

00:39:38.000 Here's the thing.

00:39:39.000 Celebrities, we know this.

00:39:40.000 They have no idea what they're talking about.

00:39:42.000 And they're so tone deaf that for a long time they were able to live in this echo chamber and no one questioned them on it.

00:39:49.000 The world has become a smaller place.

00:39:51.000 The world has become a smaller place largely because of the internet, right?

00:39:54.000 You can play Moodle Kombat with your friend in Vietnam.

00:39:56.000 Named that movie land was from yesterday too.

00:39:58.000 So people share a lot more in common.

00:40:01.000 Like there are people in Iraq right now who are watching the same gun tube videos, the same gun videos on YouTube that you are.

00:40:08.000 Think about that.

00:40:09.000 And the world has become a smaller place as far as feedback directly to your representatives politically, where they actually have to accommodate, they have to adapt.

00:40:20.000 And the world is a smaller place with celebrities where once upon a time they'd do a junket, they'd be on a red carpet or they'd be on a show.

00:40:26.000 They'd say something so asinine that you can't even figure out where they got it and they just move on with their day.

00:40:32.000 Now they get to hear from you. 0.54

00:40:34.000 I remember this with Tom Hanks.

00:40:35.000 I remember, I think it was on Morning Joe at MSNBC.

00:40:40.000 I don't want to be mistaken.

00:40:41.000 And he said, I'm pretty close to quoting that, well, we were roped into or we went into World War II based on jingoism and racism.

00:40:52.000 And no one at that desk just thought to say, what?

00:40:57.000 But now all of you can say, huh?

00:41:00.000 What?

00:41:00.000 And you can send her a list of the violent, hardened criminals who've been deported.

00:41:05.000 What happened with me too?

00:41:07.000 What happened to me too when it's actual rape from people who have no business being here?

00:41:13.000 So maybe sit this one out and be grateful for the exposure of your mediocre song.

00:41:17.000 How about that?

00:41:18.000 Now, coming up here, and actually, I guess, well, after this, we'll do a Korean fire drill because I do have to go take a call.

00:41:25.000 But this is something that we never, I don't think we've ever done this before.

00:41:27.000 It's an incomplete Change My Mind that you're about to watch.

00:41:30.000 It's a bonus.

00:41:30.000 It's about 25, 30 minutes.

00:41:33.000 Yep.

00:41:33.000 Where I sat down at Oklahoma University and the conversation sort of branched out from deport all illegals to, well, what does it mean to be an American?

00:41:44.000 I noticed when I was talking with young people, that wasn't something they'd considered or entertained.

00:41:50.000 And the good news with that is that a lot of young people who would be default leftist, be default liberal, were open to the idea that there should be some requirements, there should be some expectations as it relates to being American.

00:42:04.000 We didn't include this because it was cut short, as you'll see due to some, you know, some risks where it was pretty high tension.

00:42:13.000 But here you go, change my mind.

00:42:15.000 What does it mean to be an American before I'm escorted?

00:42:20.000 So last month I traveled to Oklahoma University for the latest installments of Change My Mind, where I tackled two new topics, deporting all the illegals and canceling SNAP. 0.92

00:42:31.000 You can find those videos in the description.

00:42:33.000 But today I have a bonus piece of content.

00:42:38.000 And I say bonus because it was cut short due to some behind-the-scenes security issues we had to deal with, and after which I had to be escorted.

00:42:49.000 But it also showcases a very interesting conversation with, I will say, a kind and thoughtful student about what it means to actually be an American.

00:42:59.000 Because that's something we gloss past when we're talking about immigration and a lot of policies.

00:43:04.000 What is it that makes one American?

00:43:07.000 And can someone be more American or less? 0.56

00:43:09.000 Leave your thoughts in the comments below and enjoy this bonus installment of Change My Mind, where, spoiler, I live at the end.

00:43:27.000 What's your name, by the way?

00:43:28.000 I'm Gabriel.

00:43:28.000 Gabriel Instagram.

00:43:29.000 Gabriel Steve.

00:43:30.000 Sorry.

00:43:30.000 No, you're sorry.

00:43:31.000 I got a dry mouth talking all day, so after this.

00:43:33.000 No, I get it.

00:43:34.000 I've been having a good time?

00:43:35.000 Yeah, it's been nice.

00:43:37.000 You like OU?

00:43:39.000 It's funny, my only experience with OU was in jiu-jitsu and a guy who was all-American, I think he was actually national champion, NCAA champion, suplexed me and concussed me.

00:43:50.000 He was, there are levels to this.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, yeah, I read this.

00:43:52.000 Oh, did you?

00:43:53.000 For like 10 years.

00:43:54.000 I mean, I know Oklahoma State is the school, but this guy was awesome.

00:43:57.000 So I was like, hey, OU.

00:43:59.000 But yeah, no, it's my brother has lived in Oklahoma.

00:44:04.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:44:04.000 How long have you been going here?

00:44:06.000 This is my third year.

00:44:07.000 Okay.

00:44:07.000 I've lived in Norman my entire life.

00:44:09.000 Okay, what are you studying?

00:44:10.000 Industrial engineering.

00:44:11.000 Oh, there you go.

00:44:12.000 Okay.

00:44:12.000 Well, it's all probably relevant to the H-1B conversation because it's going to be a little competitive for you.

00:44:18.000 I want to go to grad school because I just really enjoy researching all that stuff.

00:44:21.000 And so, yeah, that's a big conversation.

00:44:23.000 We've got a lot of important applications here.

00:44:27.000 Okay.

00:44:28.000 All right.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, we've talked about that quite a bit.

00:44:35.000 We can touch on that too if you want to.

00:44:38.000 I've got to imagine.

00:44:39.000 How old are you?

00:44:40.000 I'm 19.

00:44:40.000 19, yeah, got to be daunting.

00:44:42.000 Kind of looking at when people talk about boomers not really fully appreciating it.

00:44:46.000 And I go, sure, people can make better financial decisions, and I think a lot of young people don't, but they don't really take into account the competitive nature of the job marketplace.

00:44:55.000 It's quite a bit different from what we're doing.

00:44:56.000 Especially right now.

00:44:57.000 I mean, I have a lot of friends just last night, obviously, with a couple seniors that are graduating this semester and just discussing the job market in general.

00:45:03.000 Yeah.

00:45:03.000 It's difficult right now.

00:45:05.000 I can only imagine it. 0.99

00:45:06.000 Well, I didn't run into that because I was an idiot who they said the world needs grave diggers too. 0.99

00:45:12.000 And then I did stand-up comedy and went about it the other way. 0.99

00:45:15.000 I did two semesters of college.

00:45:16.000 Well, you wrestled, so did you call you like the Griffin?

00:45:19.000 Like, here comes the Griffin.

00:45:20.000 No, they didn't do all that.

00:45:21.000 I mean, you know how to do wrestling.

00:45:22.000 It's a little less showmanship-like than stuff you see on TV.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, they don't like the showboat.

00:45:28.000 Often, I know in wrestling, you get the nickname you don't want.

00:45:32.000 So, for part of the reason, my entire high school team called me Gabby, like I said, Gabrielle.

00:45:36.000 Yeah, and if you show that you don't like it, that's what you get.

00:45:38.000 That's what I got for two years.

00:45:39.000 Like, we have a guy here, I don't know, he's a former special forces, but he loves filet.

00:45:44.000 So, I call him Tenderloin, and he hates it.

00:45:46.000 But that's just what it is.

00:45:47.000 I'm like, dude, it's an ironically scary nickname because people are like, Tenderloin is too that's too soft. 0.95

00:45:52.000 He must be crazy.

00:45:54.000 But, all right, well, Gabriel, I don't know how familiar you are at all with kind of the series, if at all.

00:45:59.000 Okay.

00:45:59.000 So, you know, I just always try and clarify with people what it's not.

00:46:02.000 Because this was started 10 years ago, close to it, before the kind of debate bro culture and before YouTube shorts was a thing.

00:46:09.000 It's not designed to be gotcha, score points, dunk.

00:46:12.000 We really do try and have discussions in good faith, even on controversial topics, hopefully proving that we can have them, even if we disagree.

00:46:18.000 And that being said, today obviously is a hot-button issue.

00:46:21.000 We've been talking about it quite a bit.

00:46:24.000 I believe that in the year 2025, certainly where we find ourselves at this impasse with our immigration issues.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, deport all illegal aliens. 1.00

00:46:33.000 And if you disagree with that, you're more than welcome to change my mind.

00:46:36.000 To be clear, is that black and white and sort of, like, is that your entire point of view, or is it more nuanced?

00:46:42.000 You're more.

00:46:42.000 Well, obviously, it's more nuanced.

00:46:43.000 I can't fit it on a sign, but that's the starting point.

00:46:46.000 Okay.

00:46:46.000 Yeah, that's the starting point.

00:46:47.000 I think we've tried it the other way forever, going back to, I mean, well before it, but Reagan granting amnesty to 3 million, the number's increased by 450% since then.

00:46:57.000 We've been lenient.

00:46:59.000 The cost is astronomical.

00:47:01.000 Crime in many of the sanctuary cities is out of control.

00:47:03.000 And I also think, look, a big difference now, considering the number, the sheer influx in the last decade, I think Americans have the right to want to preserve a culture here where they're footing the bill as taxpayers to feel like strangers in their own town where they don't have common language, common culture, common values.

00:47:22.000 So all of that.

00:47:23.000 Yeah, I think the starting off point is we're going to be hardlined on it.

00:47:27.000 Okay.

00:47:27.000 Well, thanks for sharing that, Mick, with me.

00:47:29.000 I guess immediately, what do you see as the immediate cost of immigration?

00:47:32.000 You bring up how it can ask the American taxpayer.

00:47:35.000 What's your opinion on that?

00:47:36.000 So, well, here, and also you don't take my word for it, you can take that to check any references.

00:47:40.000 Oh, I appreciate it.

00:47:40.000 Because I know, especially at school, people are like, I'm just talking about grad school, reference through every tank.

00:47:44.000 Yes, yeah.

00:47:44.000 Yeah, and we do that every day on the show, by the way, because it really bothers me when people just make claims.

00:47:49.000 Like, well, where'd you get that?

00:47:50.000 My brother.

00:47:51.000 So, it costs, you know, the estimate is $150 billion to $450 billion a year, taxpayers.

00:47:57.000 People say, well, some, I'm not saying that no illegal aliens pay taxes.

00:48:00.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:48:01.000 The offset is about 17%.

00:48:03.000 It offsets it.

00:48:04.000 So, including the number of people who pay taxes, all of it.

00:48:07.000 The total number is $150 to $450 billion.

00:48:10.000 That's significant.

00:48:11.000 The cost of deporting illegal aliens. 0.53

00:48:13.000 If we were to take the high number of in the last four years, the number is probably closer to 15 million.

00:48:18.000 Let's call it 12 million.

00:48:19.000 But if we were to deport 20 million illegal aliens right now, costs $17,000 per illegal alien.

00:48:25.000 These are estimates.

00:48:27.000 It would cost you about $300-something, sorry, billion.

00:48:30.000 If I said million, I meant billion in all these instances.

00:48:32.000 $300-something billion dollars, $340 billion, $360 billion to deport them. 0.75

00:48:36.000 You could end up effectively saving money within the year, call it a year and a half.

00:48:40.000 So that's including making IST the largest federally funded law enforcement organization.

00:48:46.000 You can put that in your power, but you can keep it.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, we have plenty.

00:48:48.000 Yes.

00:48:48.000 That's including all of it.

00:48:49.000 Yep.

00:48:50.000 Okay.

00:48:50.000 That's including the cost of self-deportations as well, versus having to chase people down and deport them, all of it.

00:48:57.000 Okay.

00:48:57.000 So, I mean, with the fact that, I mean, I'm not entirely educated on the exact statistics.

00:49:01.000 I mean, though, we all understand that statistics, like anything, you can use to lie.

00:49:05.000 Sure.

00:49:05.000 Not that you're doing that, just that.

00:49:07.000 You're going to be cognizant of the type of statistics that we're quoting and all those sorts of things.

00:49:11.000 Yes.

00:49:12.000 But the IRS allows you to pay taxes without SSA, a Social Security number.

00:49:18.000 For example, they want you to, they'll track you down even if you're, I mean, not, you know what I mean?

00:49:22.000 Well, they'll track you down.

00:49:23.000 You'll go up here, Heiny, with a sigmoid scope. 1.00

00:49:25.000 So in my case, they use an IMAX wide-angle lens.

00:49:30.000 Oh, that's right.

00:49:31.000 You're from Canada?

00:49:32.000 I was born in Detroit, but yeah, I spent a lot of time in Canada.

00:49:35.000 Okay, so I'm just vaguely remembering things.

00:49:38.000 I'm ashamed of it.

00:49:39.000 It's a horrible place.

00:49:40.000 I don't know much about it.

00:49:41.000 I've never been, honestly.

00:49:43.000 You're better off.

00:49:43.000 Okay.

00:49:45.000 But yeah, so the IRS you're saying they can track you whether you have a social security number or not.

00:49:50.000 Okay, so you're of the opinion, which let's back it up, that there are just millions of illegal aliens not paying taxes.

00:49:57.000 Yes.

00:49:58.000 Okay.

00:49:59.000 I suppose, could you inform me as to why?

00:50:02.000 Well, the numbers bear it out.

00:50:03.000 And here's the other problem.

00:50:04.000 It actually isn't.

00:50:05.000 I can detail how those things were.

00:50:07.000 Yeah, so again, this is.

00:50:08.000 And the reason that this really sticks in my mind is because when I did a change of mind on building the wall a long time ago, the number was about $116 billion per year.

00:50:16.000 The lowest estimate you'll find is $150 billion.

00:50:19.000 People say sales tax.

00:50:20.000 I understand, so do Americans pay sales taxes.

00:50:22.000 But accounting for the income revenue that we actually see having to estimate.

00:50:26.000 And here's also the problem, too, right?

00:50:27.000 Like you said, these have to be, that's why I give you a pretty wide range.

00:50:30.000 Because when you're dealing with people who are not only not on the books, but are incentivized to stay off the books, and even more the employers are incentivized to keep them off the books as a result of policy, it's difficult to track.

00:50:41.000 But you'd be hard-pressed to find someone say that it's a net benefit to the American taxpayer, illegal aliens. 1.00

00:50:47.000 Okay, that's a fair point.

00:50:49.000 And you also bring up the fact that American culture, that this, we bring in all these illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:50:54.000 Yes.

00:50:54.000 And it sort of devalues American culture.

00:50:57.000 Yeah.

00:50:57.000 Do you think that American, I mean, you talked about Ronald Reagan earlier.

00:51:00.000 You've heard his quote that the only thing that defines an American is a willingness to come to this country and anybody can become an American.

00:51:06.000 Could become an American.

00:51:07.000 That's the important part of that quote.

00:51:08.000 So you think definitionally what becomes an American is assimilation to our culture?

00:51:12.000 So yeah, I think that if I see someone who's here who's sending money back to the country they claim to flee and they don't speak the common language, I view them as less American.

00:51:20.000 Okay, so you, I mean, because most of those people are supporting their parents, which is really common in a lot of other cultures.

00:51:26.000 And you disagree with that?

00:51:27.000 Yes.

00:51:28.000 Okay.

00:51:28.000 Because again, we have to look out for the best interests of Americans.

00:51:30.000 I don't know if I'm sure that you know this to some degree, and you'll find out in the workforce, but a lot of Americans are struggling.

00:51:36.000 There's over seven and a half million Americans, 7.4 depending on the year, looking for jobs.

00:51:41.000 They're willing to do the jobs that are being imported at cheaper wages.

00:51:46.000 They're struggling.

00:51:47.000 A country needs to look out for the best interests of its citizens, as all these other countries do.

00:51:51.000 The immigration laws are far more harsh in Mexico, far more harsh, for example, in Japan and Korea and even many South American countries.

00:51:59.000 India had an official language being English, one of many before the United States.

00:52:03.000 So, yeah, that's not a benefit to the American taxpayer.

00:52:05.000 Someone coming here, working a job that an American would do to send money to another country is not something that's not building a country that's taking from.

00:52:13.000 That's my opinion.

00:52:14.000 Well, I mean, you bring up Japan and Korea, and those are really great examples of extremely xenophobic countries that dislike people that have been not considered nationalists.

00:52:22.000 Including each other.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, I mean, that's exactly Korean safe Japanese.

00:52:25.000 But I didn't just bring them up, I bring up Mexico.

00:52:27.000 Yeah, no.

00:52:28.000 I mean, I can't own waterfront property in Mexico if I go there legally.

00:52:31.000 Yes.

00:52:32.000 I can't protest.

00:52:33.000 The reason I bring up those two, and you could include Mexico as well, is I think the United States is distinctively better because we have so many people not from this country working within it. 0.87

00:52:42.000 We have greater ideas.

00:52:44.000 For example, I said that I was interested in graduate school and that I've spoken with a lot of those people.

00:52:50.000 A lot of graduate students aren't from this country.

00:52:53.000 Sure.

00:52:53.000 And without question, that makes every single graduate program with non-Americans in it better for it because they have to be so much better than us to get into these programs.

00:53:02.000 Not always.

00:53:03.000 In my experience.

00:53:04.000 Which is not always relative to a lot of people who are, you know, there are these degree mills. 0.88

00:53:10.000 India is largely the epicenter of this, where there are fraudulent degrees and there are placing firms that take money off the top.

00:53:15.000 And they come in, they're not any more qualified, they're not any more skilled.

00:53:18.000 I have no problem with someone coming to this country legally and wanting to pursue an education and becoming an American.

00:53:24.000 We have those processes that exist.

00:53:28.000 But that's not all immigrants that we're seeing right now.

00:53:31.000 An issue for me, we need to have a shared value system, we have a shared common language, and a shared specific value in contributing and building a country.

00:53:41.000 So you see a lot of different points of view.

00:53:43.000 Let's take, for example, like when people think immigrants, they'll often think like Alice Highland, you know, that sort of like Italians and the Irish, and they might have disagreed, but the truth is, people coming from Italy, Ireland, Germany, Poland, take your pick, they came here, only a nickel in their pocket, at great risk to themselves, at no benefit.

00:53:59.000 As a matter of fact, they left often the creature comforts and sort of a social safety net in some cases of the previous country at risk to themselves, but the promise of freedom.

00:54:07.000 That's the only thing promised here that wasn't promised anywhere else.

00:54:09.000 Well, the benefit was freedom.

00:54:11.000 Not EDT, not social security, not going into an emergency room and not paying the bill.

00:54:16.000 Not that.

00:54:17.000 There's a huge difference between immigrating pre-welfare state and post-welfare state.

00:54:21.000 And so it needs to be the value of building and contributing to a country.

00:54:25.000 And if people don't meet that criteria, they serve none of the American people's best interests.

00:54:31.000 Well, I mean, you talk about coming here for EDT or other benefits.

00:54:36.000 And the simple fact is that a lot of these things existed.

00:54:40.000 You talk about welfare state.

00:54:42.000 You know, 19 years ago.

00:54:43.000 As a broad term.

00:54:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:45.000 We still saw immigration about the 50s and 60s, and it really hasn't become this hot and bush an issue until recently.

00:54:49.000 And so what necessarily changed, and just to say more specifically, that a lot of the people that come here to work jobs aren't getting from the green mills.

00:54:59.000 Some aren't, no, I know.

00:55:00.000 No, I know.

00:55:00.000 But a lot of people are.

00:55:01.000 But there'd be no way of a very good school that a lot of them and graduate programs at the very least that are receiving doctorates here in this country, which is a large port.

00:55:11.000 That's a great example of an industry which heavily relies on immigrants.

00:55:16.000 Which industry?

00:55:17.000 Graduate education.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, graduate education.

00:55:20.000 So graduate education at large, regardless of area of study?

00:55:24.000 I suppose I can only speak into engineering.

00:55:26.000 Okay, specifically industrial engineering.

00:55:28.000 Okay.

00:55:29.000 But we see a lot of Americans.

00:55:30.000 So you don't think there are enough Americans who could do those jobs capably that we need to import them?

00:55:34.000 I don't know, but I know for a fact that if I get beat out for a spot in that education, it's not because I wasn't qualified.

00:55:42.000 It's not because they were less qualified than me.

00:55:44.000 What if you get beat out in the job force just because someone will do it cheaper?

00:55:47.000 It's like 30, 40% because they come from a third world country, where that's acceptable to them. 1.00

00:55:50.000 Well, that's just capitalism for you, I suppose.

00:55:53.000 It's not, though.

00:55:55.000 No, it's not.

00:55:56.000 Okay, so what?

00:55:57.000 It's not if someone is coming and they're sending their money back to a country.

00:56:02.000 Well, it does, especially too.

00:56:03.000 There'd be no way of verifying, right?

00:56:05.000 That's the issue.

00:56:05.000 There's no way of verifying if it's legitimate.

00:56:07.000 And I think we would agree, the employers who turn a blind eye, you've created a modern class of slave labor.

00:56:13.000 You can go to neighborhoods here, but you'll find 16 families living in a house, taking a job that an American would do for much lower wages.

00:56:18.000 A commission is taken off the top from one of these placement firms.

00:56:22.000 And Americans are out of work.

00:56:23.000 You can't tell me that there aren't enough Americans who will do jobs in tech in Palo Alto for engineering.

00:56:27.000 I know we have brilliant minds here.

00:56:28.000 You seem to be one of them.

00:56:30.000 And I guess the question would become, what do you believe the criteria should be?

00:56:35.000 Because now we've gone from illegal aliens, but I think this is a good conversation. 0.95

00:56:38.000 What do you think the criteria should be for someone to be given that golden ticket of American citizenship or green card?

00:56:43.000 I think the idea of a golden ticket for Americans, I mean, sorry, when I say that, I mean that American citizenship is such a great ideal.

00:56:51.000 It should be more accessible.

00:56:52.000 And that's a large issue I feel with a lot of the idea of illegal immigration is our broken immigration system.

00:56:58.000 And I don't feel that that's necessarily a hot take, you could say.

00:57:03.000 No, can you point me to any other example?

00:57:05.000 Because I think we agree that it's an unbelievable, the citizenship or green card is a value, right?

00:57:11.000 You're saying golden ticket.

00:57:12.000 I use that hyperbole, but I think you agree with it. 0.79

00:57:15.000 Can you give me an example where something else that is intensely valuable, its value is maintained or increased by making it cheaper or available to all with lower standards?

00:57:26.000 Where else do we do that?

00:57:27.000 What's a false equivalency?

00:57:29.000 A citizenship has value because the people here make it great.

00:57:34.000 And it's not a commodity that we're selling.

00:57:37.000 So it doesn't have inherent value that you can trade for it.

00:57:41.000 It does, though.

00:57:41.000 It has a lot of value.

00:57:42.000 That's why people want to come here.

00:57:44.000 So if you're the one who's holding this item, in this case, it's obviously sort of more nebulous, but a citizenship, but something of value, what should the requirements be, considering that we have so many people here who also value it and want to remain in this country?

00:58:00.000 I'd like to agree with Ronald Reagan.

00:58:02.000 In fact, the only thing that makes an American is a willingness to be American.

00:58:04.000 Anybody can come from any part of the world and become an American.

00:58:07.000 So what does that mean?

00:58:08.000 What is it to become an American?

00:58:09.000 I suppose in my opinion, you could say that to become an American is just simply a willingness to make this country great.

00:58:18.000 And a lot of immigrants have that.

00:58:19.000 That's why they come here.

00:58:20.000 How does someone make this country great?

00:58:23.000 They improve itself through their communities, themselves, the country at large.

00:58:27.000 When we talk about making America great as a very large-scale, I'm not referencing that.

00:58:32.000 I just mean in general, making a very large institution better.

00:58:36.000 There's really no way to quantify that unless you want to get into like a GDP.

00:58:41.000 I mean, I mean in terms of values and cultural systems, you can't quantify that.

00:58:45.000 Okay, well, how would I think, I think you can quantify it as far as net contributions versus net deductions.

00:58:52.000 But as far as culturally, I've kind of put forth my position, right?

00:58:56.000 That's improving the culture, shared values.

00:58:58.000 It's why these people have left these countries.

00:59:00.000 I believe these countries are inferior culturally.

00:59:03.000 So what would your criteria, and this isn't a trick question, it's a real conversation that needs to take place.

00:59:09.000 What is it to be an American and how does an immigrant coming here, how do they make it better? 1.00

00:59:15.000 Because I think that should be the criteria for who we accept.

00:59:18.000 Do you make this country better?

00:59:20.000 And if the answer is no, then I think you should make your country better.

00:59:24.000 I think if, for example, H-1Bs, I think there's quite a bit in engineering, but I know a lot in tech.

00:59:30.000 I think it's probably more heavily skewed tech, but quite a few Indian engineers.

00:59:33.000 If they're so great and the most brilliant investment, why does India still look like India? 1.00

00:59:38.000 I mean, you can, when you say look like India, what do you mean?

00:59:42.000 I mean a poor country.

00:59:43.000 I mean a backwards country.

00:59:44.000 I mean, where people can't get access to basic health care, basic necessities.

00:59:47.000 I mean, starving.

00:59:48.000 I mean, diseases that we've eradicated here that they still suffer from.

00:59:51.000 I mean, hundreds of thousands of people dying from snake bites.

00:59:55.000 That's not a joke.

00:59:56.000 No, I understand.

00:59:57.000 No, no, but literally, it's a third world country.

01:00:00.000 Why aren't the best and brightest turning India into America number two? 0.99

01:00:04.000 Well, a lot of those things when you talk about being a backwards country, and a lot of the things they face because being so raw are more to do with cultural values and things that you place into high regard that they don't. 0.99

01:00:16.000 And so, even the idea of a third world country, you know, comes from the Civil War, as I'm sure you know.

01:00:23.000 And we use it these days to refer to anything that is less urbanized or less culturally, sorry, like scientifically advanced, technologically advanced.

01:00:31.000 Sure.

01:00:32.000 But a lot of these countries just have really strong programs and a lot of things that aren't focused on the things we Americans find valuable.

01:00:41.000 Right.

01:00:42.000 And so why not?

01:00:43.000 That's a great question.

01:00:44.000 I'm not Indian.

01:00:44.000 I wouldn't know.

01:00:45.000 Or, you know, any country.

01:00:46.000 The point is with those people that come here and choose to make our country better rather than theirs, they might just hold values and things that we find value in rather than they. 0.62

01:00:53.000 Well, what's the benefit?

01:00:55.000 Some do, a lot don't.

01:00:57.000 And what would you say to the American?

01:00:59.000 It goes, well, these people come here, take a job, do it for a lower wage, and they send the money back home to India, the country that they left, because that's very common. 0.90

01:01:05.000 Well, I mean, you say a lot don't.

01:01:06.000 And just for a lot don't.

01:01:09.000 We can't speak necessarily what any given immigrant believes or does not believe.

01:01:13.000 Well, okay, so in Texas, I'll just give you as an example.

01:01:16.000 And I've talked with quite a few of these people.

01:01:18.000 As a matter of fact, I did a talking with people, which has like changed my mind, but I'm less likely to get shot, where I just kind of walk and talk.

01:01:25.000 And there were some Indian immigrants who were going to college.

01:01:28.000 And I said, what do you like most about America?

01:01:31.000 They said, opportunity and the money.

01:01:33.000 And I said, great, cool.

01:01:34.000 Well, that's tough.

01:01:35.000 What do you like most about America?

01:01:36.000 I said, the ability to give money back home to my family.

01:01:39.000 I said, what do you love most about America?

01:01:42.000 They couldn't say anything.

01:01:44.000 They could read me a laundry list.

01:01:45.000 What's great about India? 1.00

01:01:46.000 And there are areas in Texas, obviously, particularly areas like in the Dallas area.

01:01:50.000 A lot of Indian, let me ask you, do the areas where Indian immigrants have come here en masse, meaning they make up the majority of the neighborhood, does it look more like America as we know it or less, more like India?

01:02:04.000 I think the idea that we need to keep America sort of stagnant over time, that it can't change culturally, is not to India.

01:02:12.000 That's my opinion.

01:02:13.000 I think it's a bad thing.

01:02:14.000 Well, I mean, that's what makes America America.

01:02:16.000 Not looking like India? 1.00

01:02:17.000 No, I mean, this idea of a melting pot, and some people disagree with that, but that's not necessarily.

01:02:21.000 It's a different, though, but it's a very different melting pot.

01:02:23.000 Again, people from Ireland and England coming in, they weren't from different planets.

01:02:28.000 When someone doesn't come from the same type of value system or even share the same language, and they're interested in using the gold, the milk and honey from this country to send back to said country they left, that's not the same thing.

01:02:42.000 We can see examples.

01:02:43.000 For example, those early immigrants, they weren't sending all their money back to Italy or Ireland.

01:02:47.000 Cuban Americans, these are actual asylum seekers.

01:02:50.000 They won't send a dime back to Castro's Cuba, right?

01:02:53.000 It's not the same thing.

01:02:54.000 I think a lot of people are not coming here to contribute, but to reap the benefits, and there's no regard for the American citizen.

01:03:01.000 So you think what qualifies an immigrant to have value is how culturally similar their previous country is to America?

01:03:09.000 Or, I mean, we even talk about it.

01:03:10.000 I think it should be factored in how much they build this country, not take.

01:03:16.000 But that has nothing to do with how culturally similar they're country.

01:03:19.000 That's a very, I would say that's a central tenet to American culture.

01:03:22.000 When you had immigrants coming here and they were building the Empire State Building where they're eating their lunch boxes on the scaffold and it still gives me vertigo when I see the pictures and paying taxes, I think that's very different from someone coming here and certainly the illegal aliens who don't pay taxes, or the ones who don't. 1.00

01:03:36.000 Not saying all, not all, not all.

01:03:38.000 Or someone coming here, collecting the money and sending it back to India or sending it back to Mexico or sending it back to Honduras in certain country.

01:03:46.000 I think it's very, very different.

01:03:47.000 And you see it with Cuban Americans. 1.00

01:03:49.000 You see it with USSR expats who came here were fleeing communism.

01:03:52.000 It's difficult to inherently say that sending money home was a bad thing when so often the federal government, because of our role on the national or the world stage, gives millions or billions of dollars to foreign countries.

01:04:05.000 It's just an individual portion of that.

01:04:06.000 And I don't know that you necessarily, or I, I can speak for myself specifically, would not give money back to my family if I were to make it up in a different country.

01:04:14.000 Well, sure, but the policy should be a 50% remittance tax.

01:04:17.000 Keep your money in America. 0.93

01:04:18.000 If you love America, keep your money in America.

01:04:20.000 See, benefit the American citizen.

01:04:22.000 Because again, we can't track it.

01:04:23.000 We just know the net cost.

01:04:25.000 Well.

01:04:26.000 Versus the net contributions.

01:04:28.000 And that needs to be taken to.

01:04:29.000 What about a shared language?

01:04:30.000 Got to speak English or no, really?

01:04:34.000 Do you agree with that?

01:04:34.000 No, nonetheless.

01:04:35.000 Okay, so you don't have to contribute.

01:04:36.000 You can send your money back home.

01:04:37.000 You don't have to speak English.

01:04:38.000 Tell me how any of this makes America better.

01:04:40.000 It would be, I think it would be smart if they were to learn English.

01:04:43.000 It's just simple common sense.

01:04:45.000 The majority language here is English.

01:04:47.000 However, there's a difference between things that might be smart or common sense and things we can make legally enforceable.

01:04:54.000 And that's one of those things, same with sending money home or even having an American value system, which you may define to be a sense of cultural norms.

01:05:03.000 But regardless, there's a difference between things that you might find personally benefiting to you or the country as a whole and things that we can make legally responsible.

01:05:13.000 For sure, you could ensure that any and all retail customer service positions, forward-facing positions, English only English, as they do in countries with official language.

01:05:20.000 And that's a language of service to many of the communities where most areas.

01:05:23.000 But it would be a huge service to the United States community.

01:05:27.000 That ignores the fact that the United States community is made up of smaller communities.

01:05:30.000 No?

01:05:31.000 Yes, definitionally, yeah.

01:05:33.000 Well, you use the term melting pot, which is a term that's, I'll use it for the nomenclature.

01:05:37.000 How can you distinguish United States culture from Oklahoma culture from Oklahoma City culture?

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 There are different sizes to it.

01:05:45.000 Sure.

01:05:45.000 And a lot of the smaller parts of this country don't speak English as their native language, simply because a lot of them are immigrants, second generation immigrants, third generation immigrants.

01:05:56.000 And so why are they?

01:05:56.000 You just define the difference between national borders and state borders.

01:06:00.000 Yes, sir.

01:06:00.000 Right?

01:06:01.000 And a national border is a language.

01:06:02.000 A national border is net contributions.

01:06:05.000 A national border is you keep your resources here. 0.84

01:06:08.000 If you want to be a part of this nation, you place this nation before all others.

01:06:12.000 That is a huge component of being American. 0.97

01:06:14.000 I don't give a rat's ass what Ronald Reagan says in the way it's misinterpreted. 0.83

01:06:17.000 He's saying if you want to become an American, what does that mean? 0.97

01:06:19.000 Let's look to the founding documents.

01:06:21.000 You have no allegiance to any other nation before the United States.

01:06:25.000 That means you don't send your money elsewhere.

01:06:28.000 You don't have a sworn allegiance or an affinity for another nation above the United States.

01:06:32.000 And we need to have a shared common culture.

01:06:34.000 Well, that's an allusion to the founding documents.

01:06:37.000 I mean, so you think that America is stronger, because I don't want to get too far.

01:06:40.000 If people don't speak the same language, if people send their people coming here, don't learn English, send their money back to another country, you think that makes America great?

01:06:46.000 Because I just disagree.

01:06:48.000 Look, I don't think that inherently makes America better or worse.

01:06:51.000 I think their contributions to the country can make this country better or worse.

01:06:55.000 However, their cultural norms and values have no difference.

01:06:57.000 But what contributions?

01:06:59.000 Technological is a great example.

01:07:01.000 I mean, I can speak from experience, but also just generally cultural.

01:07:04.000 So much of American cuisine is made up of foreign cuisine.

01:07:07.000 Now, you're not going to get me on tandoori chicken that that's the reason we need a bunch of third world immigrants who don't speak the language. 1.00

01:07:12.000 I'm not trying to, just in the sense that there's so much of American culture that borrows from other cultures, and we change it and we make it American, but we can't do that if we don't have immigrants. 0.98

01:07:21.000 And I understand that it's not a problem.

01:07:23.000 You can do it if you have a selective group of immigrants who improve America, who are a net benefit to America. 0.93

01:07:28.000 We have 330, 350 million people in this country, and we are facing an insurmountable debt.

01:07:35.000 We have far too many people.

01:07:36.000 And by the way, not just immigrants, to be clear.

01:07:39.000 I also think we should cut snap in these welfare states for Americans who are abusing the system. 1.00

01:07:44.000 But the difference is we have the ability to set criteria for people coming into this country.

01:07:51.000 And I think it needs to start with what serves the interest of the American people.

01:07:55.000 And I think the left, the reason they're losing and the reason that Gen Z men are veering away from them is because they're not able to define what it is to be American. 0.63

01:08:02.000 Well, I mean, let's be clear that you're not arguing the left at large in this situation.

01:08:06.000 No, I'm telling you, but I'm saying I am willing to stake my claim on this is important, and I think it's important to a lot of Americans.

01:08:12.000 And we used to just talk about, hey, you know, cool, let's make it easier to immigrate here.

01:08:16.000 I don't think so.

01:08:17.000 I think it's very valuable.

01:08:18.000 I think we should only take the best and the brightest.

01:08:20.000 And I think we should have criteria that establishes this is what's expected of you.

01:08:24.000 Good example.

01:08:25.000 Going, because I know you're a very smart guy.

01:08:28.000 You've heard the term evangelize, of course.

01:08:30.000 So a lot of, and it pissed me out because a lot of Christians were like, I'm evangelizing.

01:08:33.000 Have you heard the good news?

01:08:34.000 Jesus loves you.

01:08:35.000 It's like, evangelize, I believe, comes from the word evangelia.

01:08:38.000 And so what this meant is, let's say there's a new Caesar, and they would actually send out people to evangelize.

01:08:44.000 And what that included was, hey, here's the good news.

01:08:46.000 Your new Caesar is benevolent.

01:08:48.000 He's going to provide A, B, C, X, Y, Z. Here's the flip side.

01:08:51.000 Here are the expectations, right?

01:08:53.000 Here's what you are expected to contribute.

01:08:54.000 That's what evangelizing was, letting people know, hey, this is the new program, and these are the benefits.

01:08:59.000 Those words evolve over time, and we shouldn't necessarily.

01:09:01.000 Well, I'm just using that as an example.

01:09:02.000 That's how all nations... 0.71

01:09:03.000 Oh, take a look.

01:09:05.000 Okay.

01:09:05.000 Okay, all right.

01:09:05.000 Sorry.

01:09:06.000 It means that there's means there's something for you.

01:09:08.000 Thank you, man.

01:09:08.000 I appreciate it.

01:09:08.000 It's nice to meet you.

01:09:09.000 Nice to meet you, sir.

01:09:10.000 All right.

01:09:11.000 Very nice.

01:09:12.000 Okay.

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