In this episode, the guys discuss the latest poll that shows a solid majority of Hispanic and African-American voters voted for Donald Trump in 2016. They also discuss why the new Republican candidate for president, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is a racist and why she should be kicked out of the race.
00:00:18.000So this is something where the media, what they're telling, and even then, these people who still break with a lot of you watching on a lot of issues, they still overwhelmingly support Donald Trump's job performance.
00:01:01.000There's some, there's definitely, they make, when they had that question, I am a racist, they make it, because we've done this thing with media and the left where if you're racist, you're white.
00:02:22.000So, yeah, this is something that we need to take into context.
00:02:25.000I think you need to take all information available to you.
00:02:28.000But people have made it seem like it's a civil war.
00:02:30.000And so the new Republican Party is going to be, it's going to be what?
00:02:33.000It's going to be, it's going to be Mamdani.
00:02:36.000I mean, honestly, if you look at like what, Mamdani, Bernie, AOC, people who are socially liberal but want to divest from Israel.
00:02:45.000How about the solution moving forward?
00:02:49.000I think this is a very fair, fair compromise.
00:02:52.000We should be conservative across the board, which, by the way, is one and the same with America First, meaning place the needs of Americans, our citizens, above all others, America first, okay?
00:03:04.000Socially conservative because that puts America first.
00:03:07.000That means we don't do the LGBTQAIP with kids, all that stuff.
00:03:10.000You want to keep it in your bedroom, okay, fine, but we're not going to do this.
00:03:13.000We are going to be fiscally conservative because a lot of the social safety net programs have proven to be an abysmal failure.
00:03:21.000We, of course, are going to be strong on immigration.
00:03:24.000And because it's not inconsistent with our values at all, we're just going to limit foreign funding, foreign aid, foreign involvement as far as even assisting militaries, unless it benefits us.
00:03:34.000So that would mean Israel, hey, there are probably plenty of wealthy Jews who could make up the gap for that $3 billion a year.
00:03:41.000You have the right to act in your own self-interest with no intervention from us.
00:03:45.000We get it, but that also means no money from us.
00:03:47.000I think that is a viable path forward.
00:03:50.000And I think it's one that's pretty hard to argue with from Jews themselves or from people who think that Israel is the root cause of everything or Jews are the root cause of everything.
00:04:01.000That point, hey, we don't have a dog in that fight because we're focusing on America, but we're also not going to reshape the conservative movement to meet modern socialists who want cheaper housing prices.
00:04:35.000You want to keep this coalition together, show the younger people a future that is attainable and desirable and give them a roadmap to get there.
00:04:44.000And most of this coalition stays completely together and probably adds a lot of people to it.
00:04:48.000Show people a future that they can't attain and there's no plan to get there.
00:04:52.000And they start going, well, at least socialism gives me stuff.
00:04:58.000That is why Zorhan Mamdani is mayor of New York, period.
00:05:01.000There may be other ancillary issues that are affecting it, but that is the crux of it.
00:05:06.000And when people feel like they cannot make it, they can't get a job, they can't do anything that's going to lead to a better life, they start giving up.
00:05:37.000There have been a lot of policies that have been abysmal for young Americans.
00:05:40.000And there are also some more options made available to you than the nihilists will let you, will lead you on to believe.
00:05:46.000You can live further outside of the city.
00:05:49.000There are certain niceties that you can forego.
00:05:52.000There are trade schools available where you can make a good income right now and not worry about your job being given to someone else, at least in the near future.
00:05:59.000So that part needs to be included in the conversation.
00:06:02.000But let's look at people saying, hey, it's really hard for us out there, younger Americans.
00:06:54.000Hey, what do you think happens to the housing market when you have people who work off the books?
00:06:58.000When you have 20 million people over the course of four years, when you have 53 million people who, by the way, can get favorable terms in some cases on loans, and there's far more demand for houses than supply.
00:07:09.000What do you think would happen tomorrow if we did away with 50 million illegal aliens?
00:07:13.000How many homes do you think would be available?
00:07:14.000What if we made sure that people who had no business being in those homes who couldn't afford it didn't get those homes and become foreclosed upon?
00:07:22.000You'd have a lot more homes available, and they'd be a lot more competitive to provide homes with people who actually can afford it and have money down.
00:07:30.000And if people need to have money down, if that's still a requirement, guess what?
00:07:33.000That home better be within the realm of affordability.
00:07:36.000So if you actually look at these issues, you say centralized economics, we also see from a lot of young people, right?
00:07:42.000Like I voted for Trump, but I'm okay with more big government spending.
00:08:16.000So horrible government policy in the name of DEI, in the name of making homes affordable to people coming to this country, legal or not, it collapsed.
00:08:25.000And then, by the way, we're also going to bail out these big banks because they're too big to fail, which is more socialism.
00:08:30.000You think more of that will improve it?
00:08:33.000Keep in mind that one wing, the Democrat wing, wants an entire generation of renters who will own nothing.
00:08:54.000And by the way, like health insurance, if banks have to give these home loans to people who won't pay them back, well, why would they, oh, it's backed, it's guaranteed by the government.
00:09:12.000You can actually look at the results that can be quantified from Democrat policies on immigration, with housing, by the way, and with schooling, on DEI and equity, with housing, by the way, and with schooling, on centralized economic planning.
00:09:43.000Something, something Obamacare to make health insurance more affordable and accessible to young people who made up a huge portion of those who didn't have insurance pre-Affordable Care Act.
00:10:08.000So the communication hasn't been all that good.
00:10:09.000And people suggesting that the overcorrection is to meet Mamdani or Bernie halfway so that our party is morphed into that, yeah, it's okay to transit kids.
00:10:38.000And I do think that Trump needs better messaging on the affordability issue because at this, you know, he's been kind of looking at this right now.
00:10:45.000He's having his cabinet meeting that's being broadcast.
00:10:48.000And he said the affordability crisis is a con job by the left.
00:12:22.000It's going to take a little bit of time to see these results.
00:12:24.000We are working on it, but one year isn't enough to reverse course with what was the most catastrophic economic decisions that were made by the previous administration.
00:12:35.000But we hear you, and we're working on it.
00:13:17.000Because if you're trying to say that the Dem saying you're in it is a hoax, you're doing it very ineloquently.
00:13:22.000You're giving the left every opportunity to hit you.
00:13:25.000What he should say is, you know, those on the left who we didn't hear a peep out of them under the Biden administration trying to say that it's not being released because I'm in the Epstein files.
00:14:07.000The illegal immigration, we would probably be at least another 10, 15, if not 20 million illegal aliens under Kamala Harris, the census rule change where you would have entire redistricting where it would be near impossible for any, you would have actually ended up with, I think, really close to a uniparty country if Kamala Harris was president.
00:14:26.000So if we're going to burn it all down because we're dissatisfied, and I'm dissatisfied with some, some of the time I'm getting exactly what I voted for, it is incumbent upon the person to provide an alternative.
00:14:39.000And right now, I mean, we know what the alternative is, and it's scary.
00:14:45.000So I think that's what you see generally is support.
00:14:47.000So I'll keep monitoring the, I don't know if, guys, if I know Hag Seth has spoken at the cabinet meeting, it doesn't seem like CNN covered too much of that, but we do have some interesting tweets if you want to move on to some fun stuff.
00:15:14.000I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me.
00:15:20.000I now can say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage.
00:15:31.000Yes, I will be naming names and providing evidence for my claims.
00:15:36.000And I am making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this Godforsaken organization to request a refund.
00:16:01.000If it's true, then I hope this comes to light.
00:16:06.000If it's not, she probably lose a lawsuit because they can immediately prove damages.
00:16:11.000They can immediately prove damages if people start asking for refunds or people stop donating.
00:16:16.000And if it's not true that she can prove verifiably that those closest to Charlie Kirk, which doesn't, I would imagine doesn't include Erica, right?
00:16:39.000That would be the only defense because you already meet, if it's not true, if it can't be verified as far as libel or defamation, you already have damages if she made a financial call to action.
00:16:48.000So I, hey, if that is true, then I hope that we find out and it comes to light.
00:16:53.000This is one of those, I would say, market.
00:16:56.000And really, this would be an important litmus.
00:17:05.000And this is one of those times where, you know, like there have been some squishy claims in the past that I think it's very kind of hard to pin down.
00:19:44.000If you'd spent five minutes on Google at S. Crowder, that's you, you'd see I've never claimed to be a conservative.
00:19:51.000I've always said I'm a moderate who happens to enjoy the company of conservatives and prefers the way they govern our over progressives.
00:19:59.000And if you only trust the concerns of established conservatives, Charlie Kirk was fairly adamant that there's no place for Fuentes in conservatism.
00:20:08.000To address the rest of your clip montage, my early vote was for Kennedy because America's health has always been my priority or Americans' health.
00:20:50.000And as I told Don Jr. in the part of the conversation you didn't show, if conservatives can't immediately and unequivocally reject this as not conservatism, progressives will own the midterms 2028 and beyond.
00:21:11.000And then I'm going to ask you to read individually because I'm going to go through each claim live with you now.
00:21:15.000And we'll go through the process and you'll experience it live.
00:21:17.000But continue reading it so we have the totality.
00:21:20.000If you can't denounce something this vile, it tells us far more about you than you realize.
00:21:25.000And look, you strike me as a guy who's not afraid of confrontation.
00:21:29.000So if you take umbrage with me voting Republican and asking your party to clearly denounce racism, sexual violence, and anti-Semitism, we can always have that conversation face to face instead of through chopped up YouTube clips.
00:21:44.000Okay, well, as you well know, of course, you're welcome to come on the show, Jillian Michaels.
00:21:48.000And a lot of this, some straw men here and some outright factual inaccuracies.
00:21:55.000Now, my, and by the way, well, okay, let's go through this point by point because right now I'm looking at all of it going like, this is wrong, this is wrong.
00:22:03.000So let's read it again, start it, and then I'll ask you to pause, Gerald.
00:22:36.000Then don't tell people who are conservative, Republican or America First how they should govern their party or their movement.
00:22:44.000My issue is with a woman new to this telling people that you have to do this.
00:22:50.000I understand that you'll frame it as though it's just advice because of a midterm, but we're not talking, I'm not talking about political advice.
00:22:56.000I'm talking about ideologically, if you are not a conservative, if you are not MAGA, if you are not America First, if you are not right-wing, then I have no qualms with you.
00:23:06.000Just don't tell us how to run our own show.
00:23:12.000So, and if you only trust the concerns of established conservatives, Charlie Kirk was fairly adamant that there's no place for Fuentes in conservatism.
00:23:45.000Or do you mean Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro?
00:23:47.000Or I don't even understand what she's claiming here because she's making the case that it is incumbent upon everyone to disavow Nick Fuentes.
00:24:27.000To address the rest of your clipped montage, my early vote was for Kennedy because Americans' health has always been my priority, but that's not the point.
00:26:23.000I don't agree with Nick on quite a few of his views as they relate to basic decency.
00:26:27.000I guarantee you I disagree with yours because like you said, you were a lifelong more so liberal who's now a moderate or maybe a lifelong moderate who just voted Republican for the first time.
00:26:38.000I don't want to mischaracterize you, but you would have very different views on basic decency than I do.
00:26:44.000So the only way you can establish it is ideological as far as the founding of this country because I don't want you or Nick Fuentes determining what is basic decency.
00:27:03.000No, not only am I not comfortable with the claim that women want to be raped, I'm intensely uncomfortable with you mischaracterizing the viewpoint that women want to be raped.
00:27:14.000Meaning, you can take words, but you can take them out of context.
00:27:20.000Does anyone here think it's okay to say that, yeah, women want to be violently raped in an alley way?
00:28:01.000Now, I understand, again, context, Jillian.
00:28:04.000I understand that when women say they have a rape fantasy, what they really mean, and I also believe that Nick Fuentes probably understands this, and I think that you probably know this as well.
00:28:13.000It usually means a woman has a fantasy about being ravaged by an attractive man who lusts for her.
00:28:20.000His carnal desire for her is so overpowering that he can't help himself.
00:28:24.000And usually he's six foot making six figures with a six pack.
00:28:28.000Her rape fantasy isn't being raped by the Somalian pirate crackhead in the alleyway.
00:28:35.000But someone saying, well, that's a thing.
00:28:37.000You know, women, if they're trying to make a point, and it's in a long list of points, half of women, I believe her claim was, Nick Fuentes said half, half of women have a rape fantasy.
00:29:17.000I would imagine, and again, I disagree.
00:29:19.000This is a no-win proposition because a lot of people are going to be mad no matter what I say.
00:29:23.000I would imagine that Nick Fuentes would probably clarify and point you to the study that 62% of women have a rape fantasy that you can find in PubMed.
00:29:31.000The good news is we provide all of our references link in the description.
00:29:45.000They have these fantasies at a frequency of about four times per year, with 14% of participants reporting they had a rape fantasy at least once a week.
00:29:53.000So it's not like it's a one-time thing.
00:29:56.000It seems to be a repeating, recurring fantasy that a lot of women have.
00:30:00.000No one is advocating for rape, aside from Islamic societies.
00:30:49.000As I told Don Jr. in the part of the conversation you didn't show, if conservatives can't immediately and unequivocally reject this as not conservatism, progressives will own that midterms 2028 and beyond.
00:31:04.000And I would say that's a valid point to make.
00:31:07.000I don't necessarily know that it's clear that that's correct, but I think it's a valid opinion to have if you're saying, hey, you need to distance yourself from this.
00:31:15.000That being said, we also had people who said, you know, you need to distance yourself from the immigration issue.
00:31:21.000People saying you need to distance yourself from the abortion issue.
00:31:24.000For a long time, people said you need to distance yourself from the gun issue after Columbine, after Parkland, after, I'm trying to remember the other one.
00:32:02.000The problem I have is with people who have no understanding as to what conservatism, as to what MA is, as to what America First is, telling people what they should do like you're some kind of oracle.
00:32:17.000And by the way, it's nothing new and it's not particularly original.
00:32:20.000My primary problem is with you telling people what they need to do or risk losing your vote.
00:32:26.000It's not one that I particularly value, and I don't think that it's an accurate bellwether as to the future of conservatism.
00:32:44.000Tell me you're a feminist without saying you're a feminist.
00:32:46.000If you can't denounce this person who you haven't spoken with yet based on my quote that I am taking out of context while telling you that playing my actual clip and telling people to go watch the whole interview is out of context, then it says more about your character.
00:33:01.000Okay, what does this say about my character?
00:33:03.000I disagree with Nick Fuentes on a whole lot.
00:33:05.000I think there's a problem with some of his views.
00:33:30.000And look, you strike me as a guy who's not afraid of confrontation.
00:33:33.000So if you take umbrage with me voting Republican and asking your party to clearly denounce racism, sexual violence, and anti-Semitism, we can always have the conversation face to face instead of through chopped up YouTube clips.
00:33:47.000If you take umbrage, again, this is a mischaracterization and it's trying to achieve some sort of victim currency here.
00:33:53.000I didn't say I'd take umbrage with you voting Republican.
00:33:58.000I'm glad that you're voting Republican.
00:34:01.000Hey, I don't know what your worldview is faith-wise.
00:34:06.000I would also welcome you into my church.
00:34:09.000If you don't know Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior, I'd like the opportunity to evangelize to you and provide you with all of the information available that you would need to make a decision.
00:34:36.000Absolutely, you can take part in the activities.
00:34:38.000And you should sit and learn and submit yourself to the authority of those who have already gained the experience so that they are able to teach.
00:34:45.000You know, like you do with glute raises.
00:35:08.000Making fat people get on a treadmill on a reality TV show.
00:35:11.000I am glad that you have voted Republican.
00:35:13.000I also understand, by your own description, that you're a fair weather voter, and that could go either way.
00:35:20.000And so I don't think that we should be basing our strategy or basing any compromising of our principles upon the advice of someone who is new here and doesn't share our principles.
00:35:34.000I also would advise people to probably not take advice from someone who is so blissfully unaware as to the data that 62% of women have rape fantasies and that that does not equate to saying women all want to be raped.
00:35:50.000I don't know if you're ignorant on this issue.
00:38:25.000You hate the D. Women who love the D, women who want the D, women who in some capacity have a need for the D biologically, evolutionarily, they like to be ravaged by the D.
00:38:45.000It kind of rubs me the wrong way where someone who socially would not share my values or the values of people under the umbrella of conservatism, America First, telling the president's son what he should do, not advising, but it's a requirement that he disavow someone politically.
00:39:06.000And especially when you know that this is a man who has been canceled in one capacity or another, to use that term, who would obviously be hesitant to do that to someone else, even if he disagrees with him.
00:39:18.000These two are not logically inconsistent.
00:39:22.000I think JD Vance said Nick Fuentes is an idiot or something like that and said, and absolutely, he has the right to say what he says.
00:39:32.000And the truth is, I can't disavow any human being if I don't know all of their views.
00:39:37.000And by the way, that's a challenge with Nick Fuentes because he kind of switches them a whole lot.
00:39:42.000I will say this: I know enough about Mamdani's views that I disavow Mamdani, I guess, but what does that mean?
00:39:49.000And so if Nick Fuentes doesn't identify as a conservative, and as I understand it, he doesn't.
00:39:54.000Why is it incumbent upon conservatives to disavow him?
00:39:57.000There's nothing that's intellectually curious, seemingly genuine, or consistent in your assertions here.
00:40:04.000And I think if you want to tell someone that they're clipping something out of context to try and play some gotcha, along with the implication that I wouldn't face you, you're talking to the wrong guy.
00:40:15.000And I think that's because you're new around these parts.
00:40:41.000And a lot of the smaller parts of this country don't speak English as their native language, simply because a lot of them are immigrants, second-generation immigrants, third-generation immigrants.