On this episode of the first episode of 2020, the boys are joined by special guest and friend of the show, Gavin Newsom, to discuss a variety of topics, including the latest in pop culture, politics, and pop culture.
00:01:53.000No, we didn't start it, but the fight goes on.
00:01:57.000Elon Musk and Ramaswamy anchored babies, missed their mommies, more expensive H-1Bs.
00:02:02.000China hacked the treasury Election was certified P.P. Harris died inside Biden's offshore drilling ban Dana White's a Zucker fan What price do you put on national security?
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00:04:50.000We're going to be talking about that as to whether there is cause for concern.
00:04:56.000If it has been a net positive, net negative, or neutral, we're just going to try and call balls and strikes on that because there are some things that I will, spoiler alert, a little concerning.
00:05:05.000I am Ante, removing the cap of H-1B. We'll be talking about the Palisades, the fires, but really actually today will be the definitive installment of Gavin Newsom, What a Piece of Sh**.
00:05:19.000And the Pete Hegseth confirmation, that was big yesterday.
00:05:22.000It encapsules everything that is wrong today as it relates to feminism permeating, infesting the halls of, well, I guess the halls of the House.
00:05:47.000Sorry, that's what the Democrats are calling the bill that passed the House, proposing that biological men cannot compete in women's sports.
00:06:53.000Because, I don't know if you know this, but you're now being shamed for saying that women are biologically, physiologically weaker than men.
00:07:00.000That's controversial in 2025. I mismarked a lot of checks, 24. I know.
00:08:15.000Now, let's just move on with this because there's so much to get to.
00:08:19.000While we were gone, and of course you see some people just as worthy adversaries, And, you know, it's always sad when someone passes, especially another one taken too young at 106. Jimmy Carter, whose presidency was awful and post-presidency was worse and did irreversible damage to the fabric of America, did kick the bucket.
00:08:48.000And so this is our final Jimmy Carter time to close.
00:11:06.000So we want to experience this with you.
00:11:07.000you the funeral of course took place and was not without drama as many of you know and as seen here let us pray in silence his face hurts and where is his glasses he can't see without his glasses Put his glasses on.
00:12:00.000We're pro-choice, even though they ignore five choices as it relates to reproductive options, women's health, whatever they want to call it.
00:12:08.000They're pro-choice, the left, as it relates to...
00:12:10.000Nothing except for abortion and drugs.
00:12:49.000Well, no one's talking about children, right?
00:12:50.000That is what you can watch in real time.
00:12:53.000That's one of the benefits being here since 2008. You can see the activists back then tell me that I was strawmanning the idea that biological men would compete in women's sports.
00:13:02.000Well, now, you would think if we were still, if there was not a slippery slope, Every single Democrat, of course, would be on board with a bill that simply opposes biological males competing in women's sports.
00:13:16.000But no, it was pretty much just House Republicans who passed that bill yesterday.
00:13:20.000The House passing a bill that would ban transgender girls and women from competing in women's sports.
00:13:26.000The legislation would impact transgender athletes in federally funded schools, grades elementary through college, and would result in a school losing funding if violated.
00:13:36.000The bill, the proposal, it's called the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act of 2025, which is actually very good because often these bills are really stupid.
00:13:48.000But the Democrats have now called it this, and it was trending yesterday, the Child Predator Empowerment Act, because you're supposed to believe that Democrats are very concerned about pedophiles these days.
00:13:58.000Don't ask about NAMBLA. They're saying that this bill now will result in inspection of girls' genitals.
00:14:13.000So, if you mean a female nurse or a qualified professional will check those who are suspicious, you know, the barely passables, and by that we mean the absolutely not passables, trying to engage in contact sports with women to be subjected to a physical inspection to, in fact, confirm that they are a woman.
00:16:23.000The pendulum is swinging and that does mean you have a problem with a lot of Johnny-come-latelys on the right side because people see it as a viable market.
00:16:31.000They shunned it for a long time and now people want to get on that train.
00:16:34.000So be very leery of people who claim to have recently put on your team jersey, but the left, they can't help themselves.
00:16:41.000They think the winning strategy is we really actually should allow men to compete in women's sports.
00:16:47.000And our argument is going to be if you believe that...
00:16:56.000That's one of the issues that cost them the election, most likely, or at least weighed heavily on people's minds when they went to the ballot box.
00:18:26.000I mean, you can watch it on your television.
00:18:27.000And we really, this year is the year that YouTube is hopefully to be seen only in our rearview mirror because liberal propagandists may be larger than they appear.
00:18:48.000I believe that women are physiologically weaker than men.
00:18:52.000And I believe that this is easily observable through all data that we have available to us, as well as the eyeball test, as well as the world record test.
00:19:00.000So, it's sexist for me to say that women should not be in combat roles?
00:19:44.000Mr. Hegseth, should we take it to believe that you believe that the two women on this committee who have served honorably and with distinction made our military less effective and less capable?
00:19:56.000I have many concerns about your record, and particularly your public statements.
00:20:53.000When you are asking us to lower the standards to make you the secretary of defense simply because you are buddies with our president-elect. - Right, yeah, lower the standards It's not like this guy has a resume that would put most of those in our house and send it to shame.
00:21:28.000And they couldn't comprehend some of the responses because you can see the moment it dawned on Elizabeth Warren, like, this is not your husband who has to listen to your silly, nagging bullshit.
00:21:48.000It was every negative stereotype that one could throw at women embodied, and of course that doesn't mean all women, just these women, because they were very, very offended.
00:21:58.000Upset and continued on the line of questioning as it related to women in the military.
00:22:04.000So going back to January 2013, you told a Fox News interviewer that women in the military simply couldn't measure up to men in the military, saying that allowing women to serve in combat roles would force the military to lower the bar.
00:22:19.000You picked up on that same theme in 2015, making remarks on Fox News, referring to women in combat as, quote, it would erode standards.
00:22:30.000June 2024, you said on Ben Shapiro's podcast, quote, women shouldn't be in combat at all.
00:22:39.000And then, of course, we've talked about it in 2024. You published a book, and you say on page 26 of your book, we need moms, but not in the military, especially in combat units.
00:22:53.000Page 48 of your book, you claim that women should not be in combat roles because men are distracted by women.
00:23:02.000And then 10 weeks ago, you appeared on the Sean Ryan show and said, I'm straight up just saying we should not have women in combat roles.
00:23:23.000Yeah, this is overlay A4. The army scrapped their gender-neutral test because women were failing at a not one, not two, not three, not four, not five.
00:24:18.000Female soldiers, they're at least twice as likely to be injured than male soldiers.
00:24:25.000Women are 67% more likely than army men, by the way, to receive physical disability discharge for some kind of musculoskeletal disorder, meaning some kind of an injury, largely in the hips, in the legs.
00:24:36.000This happens a lot from carrying packs.
00:24:37.000And by the way, the reason the number ranges from 1.5 to 10 is that women fail, or get injured, sorry, I should say, at a rate more than 10 times the men in basic training.
00:24:49.000After that, it levels off a little bit because some of the women have made it through, and a lot of them go to positions that aren't necessarily physically active roles, and so it's not the accurate sample size.
00:24:58.000Ten times the rate in basic training, but at least twice the rate across the board, and that does matter.
00:25:03.000It's a matter of public policy, just like healthcare, because these women qualify for benefits when they're hurt in basic training.
00:26:18.000This is how delusional the feminist left has become.
00:26:21.000If you were to hear this on a podcast, and you have, I'm sure, in some of the men's rights podcasts where a girl's going, well, actually, it depends.
00:26:30.000I know a woman who deadlifted 405 once.
00:26:34.000Okay, we understand that steroids are available, but the point that we're making...
00:26:39.000When we are trying to have an efficient military, we have to look at these general patterns.
00:26:44.000And by the way, Hegseth tried to answer many times, but Warren, because nothing's better than perpetuating the original stereotype, kept interrupting and getting flustered, angry, irrational, wouldn't let Hegseth respond.
00:27:00.000Article you're pointing to in 2013, but it underscores my argument completely, because in that 2013 argument, I was talking about standards.
00:27:08.000Standards are what it's always been about, Senator.
00:27:10.000Please, let's not have this same fight again.
00:27:13.000Senator, again, I very much appreciate you bringing up my comments from 2013, because for me, this issue has always been about standards.
00:27:22.000And unfortunately, because of some of the people that have been in political power for the last four years, priorities other than standards, lethality, and meritocracy have driven decision-making.
00:27:36.000Senator, the concerns I have and the concerns that many have had, especially in ground combat units, is that in pursuit...
00:27:43.000Of certain percentages or quotas, standards have been changed.
00:27:46.000And that makes the combat more difficult for everybody involved.
00:27:48.000Let me make a suggestion about what happened in that 32 days.
00:27:52.000Senator, it's not even a question I've thought about.
00:29:05.000Do you know that being drunk at work is prohibited for service members under the UCMJ? No.
00:29:10.000Senator, those are multiple false anonymous reports peddled by NBC News that run directly contradictory to the dozens of men and women at Fox News Channel who I work with who came on the record.
00:29:23.000I'm not hearing the answer to my question.
00:29:25.000You recently promised some of my Republican colleagues that you stopped drinking and won't drink if confirmed.
00:31:09.000And then you have, on the same line of questioning, Mark Kelly and Lady Lane, I'm sorry, Tim Kaine, who left his merry-go-round in the world of make-believe.
00:31:21.000Tried to smear Mr. Hegseth, but actually made him sound, I would say, kind of cool.
00:31:28.000December of 2014 at the CVA Christmas Party at the Grand Hyatt at Washington, D.C. You were noticeably intoxicated and had to be carried up to your room.
00:31:56.000And one of your employees in that event...
00:32:01.000Filed a sexual harassment charge as a result of it.
00:32:05.000Now, I know you deny these things, but isn't that the kind of behavior that, if true, would be disqualifying for somebody to be Secretary of Defense?
00:32:41.000If true, if you went to a strip club and showed your swastika on your chest to the black stripper, commonly referred to as cinnamon, that that would be a problem?
00:34:16.000The left has learned, and they try to make screw-ups something relatable.
00:34:20.000So, for example, if you hear, the reason Mel Gibson is so easily forgiven is because, wait a second, he got drunk, he was rocketing down the PCH, he called a cop sugar tits and blamed all of the ills of the world on the Jews.
00:34:52.000You didn't blame the Jews for space lasers, and you didn't call a cop sugar tits, but I guarantee you've been in an argument with your spouse.
00:34:58.000I guarantee you that you have had too much to drink at some point in time, unless you're a teetotaler like Donald Trump.
00:35:03.000If it's relatable, it's kind of like when you watch a film and you see something.
00:35:08.000And you see a little bit of yourself and you get uncomfortable.
00:35:10.000You're like, oh, yeah, I've lost my cool and done that.
00:35:14.000So they want to make the screw-up just relatable enough.
00:35:16.000And then, of course, they have to overreach when that doesn't work and they find themselves at something, something or other Brett Kavanaugh gang rape.
00:35:21.000But this is the exact same playbook they used with Brett Kavanaugh.
00:35:26.000Drinking is one thing, but the concern is about truthfulness.
00:35:29.000And in your written testimony, you said sometimes you had too many drinks.
00:35:34.000Was there ever a time when you drank so much that you couldn't remember what happened or part of what happened the night before?
00:35:42.000No, I remember what happened, and I think you've probably had beer, Senator, and...
00:35:50.000So you're saying there's never been a case where you drank so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before or part of what happened?
00:42:37.000Don't put her side-by-side with Bondi.
00:42:39.000Bondi's like five years older than Klobuchar, but Klobuchar at any age would be a distant second to Bondi.
00:42:51.000Is this the world you want to live in?
00:42:52.000Where if someone has ever made mistakes, and here's the thing, he's admitted, well certainly we talked about Kavanaugh, admitted to, the only reason they went down that line of questioning is they found out that he had said, yeah, sometimes in the past I drank too much.
00:43:08.000The idea of forgiveness, redemption, right?
00:43:10.000But it can only exist if married with accountability.
00:43:13.000The left doesn't believe in accountability.
00:43:14.000On the outset, whether it's abortion, whether it's horrible policy, whether it's how your actions affect your fellow citizen, they don't believe in that.
00:43:22.000And then they don't believe in forgiveness or redemption.
00:43:25.000They believe in disqualifying someone today, 20, 30, 40 years later.
00:43:32.000Because of mistakes that they may or may in their youth.
00:43:35.000Is that the kind of world you want to live in?
00:46:06.000And by the way, James Woods, who watches the show, he's been on the show, his entire neighborhood pretty much burned down except for his home.
00:46:15.000And you have people on the left saying, oh, he was lying.
00:46:21.000Frankly, it looks as close to a real-life miracle as you can see when you look at his neighbors versus his house.
00:46:26.000So our heart goes out to him and those affected.
00:46:28.000I know he's helping those in his community.
00:46:31.000The L.A. fires, though, it's been politicized, of course.
00:46:34.000If something is politicized, I want to be clear, it doesn't mean that it's politicized wrongly, because the root cause of it can be political in nature.
00:46:43.000And that's what we see with California and Gavin Newsom.
00:47:43.000Why wasn't the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Best, why wasn't she there?
00:47:47.000A lot of questions that are being asked, and the good news is that we have some answers, which brings us to Gavin Newsom, what a piece of shit.
00:49:37.000Only 6,000 of the acres have been cleared.
00:49:40.000There have been zero completed projects in the Los Angeles area.
00:49:44.000And the California State Park Superintendent, his name is Richard Fink, said that the state doesn't clear brush because, quote, we're here to protect the natural habitat.
00:50:34.000To show you how asinine environmentalism has become in placing The Earth, and more so, environmental policy, the ism, the dogmatic religion of neo-environmentalism, over the rights of California citizens.
00:50:50.000I don't think it can be displayed for you better than this next video.
00:52:23.000The guidelines prioritize fish over farmers in that they allocated more water for an endangered fish while limiting What farmers could access Gavin Newsom?
00:52:58.000To preempt new federal rules by Trump.
00:53:00.000You can hear it on the Joe Rogan show.
00:53:01.000He talked about this specifically on the Joe Rogan podcast.
00:53:04.000That's something like 40 million plays.
00:53:06.000Also, Gavin Newsom did this in 2019 to defy Trump.
00:53:09.000So we'll cut wildfire management by $100 million.
00:53:12.000Spend $50 million to fight Trump on immigration.
00:53:14.000In this case, I'm going to stick it to Trump by harming the citizens of my own state.
00:53:19.000If that is not a reason for a recall in California, you are beyond hope.
00:53:24.000To give you an idea, too, other policies, Gavin Newsom, just to show maybe not malice, but inefficiency, from 2019 to now, they spent $135 billion.
00:54:01.0002023. After Californians were facing a constant homeless problem, needles and human excrement in the street, and again complaining and voting in municipalities to try and fix it, Gavin Newsom finally heard their pleas.
00:54:14.000Oh, sorry, did I say heard their pleas?
00:56:59.000I'll point him out, just because at this point, I guess tit for tat, in 2005, while he was San Francisco mayor, Newsom had an affair with his secretary.
00:57:10.000She was married to his campaign manager, and while we're discussing charges that have been completely unverified and largely cleared of a Hegseth, Newsom was accused, and here's the thing.
00:57:25.000Repeatedly, going back, I believe, as far as 2007, of alcoholism, and a big reason why is because of plenty of videographic evidence.
00:57:34.000So I'm asking about the attack on the Yale students over New Year's, and, you know, it's kind of spreading across the country.
00:57:39.000A couple other, some news outlets in other countries are picking it up.
00:57:43.000And it's a good reminder how important it is to remind our parents to be good stewards of underage drinking.
00:57:51.000The only other question I have is it hasn't been a very easy week for you, and I wonder whether you have any comment on the Mattia and Roth story about the drinking.
01:00:10.000I mean, the only reason that people can look at this and go, okay, we couldn't do anything about it was because of climate change.
01:00:15.000That argument basically covers up any personal responsibility of politicians, of residents, of anybody going, I'm in a high fire area, it's dangerous, there's tons of wind coming in, this is not the first time that that's happened, it's a big issue, and I'm just going to go, well, it's climate change, so I guess I've got to throw up my hands and go, wow, we can't do anything about it.
01:00:35.000We've got to start being proactive on this stuff and holding people accountable.
01:00:38.000But do you see, again, it's the pattern from the left where there's no accountability for them?
01:01:17.000Look, I know that some people will be upset in us discussing this, but we've been pretty fair in calling balls and strikes.
01:01:24.000And there was a lot of controversy as it relates to Elon Musk.
01:01:28.000I think he's done a lot of good for this country, purchasing Twitter, turning it to X. Great.
01:01:32.000But I will tell you, look, before we get into this segment, I completely disagree on H-1Bs, and I think the approach from Elon Musk is absolutely concerning.
01:01:48.000I don't like to see infighting, but I also don't like to see people being swindled, and I certainly don't like to see people on the right advocating for policies that would cause irreparable harm.
01:01:59.000To the American worker when it is completely unnecessary, and the only people who have an interest in this are those with a profit motive in giant tech companies.
01:02:09.000And I'll lay out the case for you, okay?
01:02:12.000This doesn't mean that Elon is wrong on everything.
01:02:14.000I disagree with him on H1Bs, and I disagree with banning people who are critical of you on a platform that's pro-free speech.
01:02:20.000So to set that up, last week Elon spoke with, I believe, Alice Weidel, Germany's AFD. And he reiterated, this is good, his defense, his stance on free speech.
01:02:34.000Without freedom of speech, people are obviously not able to say what they want to say, and then they cannot make an informed vote.
01:02:43.000So if people are simply fed propaganda and have no access to what's really going on, then they can't make an informed vote, and then you don't have a real democracy.
01:03:58.000That's not what is happening with H-1B. So this debate started on X. Laura Loomer criticized Trump appointing, I believe it's Sriram Krishnan.
01:04:16.000How will he control immigration in our country and promote America first innovation when Trump appointed this guy who wants to remove all restrictions on green card caps in the United States so that foreign students can come to the United States and take jobs that should be given to American STEM students?
01:04:31.000Okay, now let me be really clear here.
01:04:33.000I also understand, and I've said this for a very long time, that be American, buy American isn't necessarily true.
01:04:39.000Sometimes American-made stuff is crap.
01:04:41.000And sometimes, Certainly, union-made American stuff is non-existent.
01:04:48.000We simply don't have the manufacturing in the United States, in which case, I understand international economy and trade, so long as it's done fairly.
01:04:54.000I am not saying that we need to shut ourselves off from the world.
01:04:57.000That is not the debate over H-1B visas.
01:06:10.000If you say it's racist, for me to say there's nothing from India that I want to import, unless there are people who cannot be found in the United States, such brilliant innovators, engineers, CEOs, people breaking ground, okay, fine.
01:06:24.000That's not how the system is being used.
01:06:26.000Outside of that, there's nothing I want.
01:06:29.000Even to just, by osmosis, there's nothing I want from India.
01:07:10.000Uh, the justification from those at X, well, you have the right to speak, but you don't have the right to be paid for it.
01:07:15.000And as I understand it, Laura Loomer lost her individual subscribers over 2000.
01:07:20.000YouTube said no one could run ads and they throttled our channel, which was terrible and caused damage to the tune of millions of dollars a year.
01:07:59.000But if you're selecting who gets paid and who doesn't, based on a point of view, or even worse, based on being critical of your point of view, look in your rearview mirror, there's free speech absolutism.
01:08:11.000You could do one of those things where you say, who said this, and put this quote out there, and you would swear this was like Susan Wojcicki circa 2017. Right.
01:08:18.000That's exactly, when I saw that, I was like, holy crap.
01:08:21.000Okay, Elon, you gotta fix your thinking on this.
01:08:24.000Or you're just completely wrong and don't understand what you just said.
01:08:26.000Because what you're doing is worse than Google.
01:08:29.000Google said advertisers don't want to be next to your content.
01:08:39.000If I spoke out the way that I am right now, and all of you, Mug Club or Mug Premium, if instead you were subscribing, you were ex-Premium members, our entire livelihood here would have been shut off.
01:08:55.000And I would welcome Elon Musk to come on the show and have a very subdued, a very rational dialogue about this where we can air our disagreements and hopefully come to some common ground with the American people.
01:10:03.000So, according to the Department of Labor's website, this is how they describe H-1B. The H-1B program applies to employers seeking to hire non-immigrant aliens as workers in specialty occupations or...
01:10:16.000As fashion models of distinguished merit and ability.
01:12:42.000Also, this is pretty tough because they make this claim, meaning those on the left, those who are advocates of unfettered immigration, and I just don't believe in that because it's the greatest country in the world.
01:12:53.000I think it's okay for us to have some standards, and I think it's okay for us to put our citizens first.
01:13:06.000And you saw this with this response from Elon saying it's bringing in the best and brightest, and then Donald Trump said, I have plenty of H-1Bs on some of my properties.
01:14:00.000The good news is, hey, that half of this country, more than half, who elected the president, guess what?
01:14:06.000They're not buying into the woke BS. There are plenty of Americans in STEM fields, certainly in software, in hardware, better than those in India.
01:14:16.000And they don't even need to fake their degree.
01:14:17.000They don't even need to fake their resume, which we'll get into, by the way.
01:14:20.000This is enabling gross abuses of human rights, just to be really clear.
01:14:30.000But this really surprised me because we ran this on the show October 2024. Vivek said that the H-1B system was irreparably broken, basically a scam.
01:14:40.000A lot of the people who have come here through the H-1B system would tell you, as I would, that it's just a broken system no matter who you're seeking to serve.
01:14:47.000My general approach is when something's broken in government, you can't really fix it when it's lasted that long.
01:14:53.000You need to shut it down, start with a blank slate, and rebuild from scratch.
01:14:56.000And that's just a stylistic point that I've applied to this issue as to any other.
01:15:23.00065% of all H-1B petitions that are approved, they're somewhere in the computer-related fields.
01:15:31.000So here's a study by the National Academy of Sciences of the United States showing that Americans, they're not falling behind in STEM fields.
01:18:01.000There are plenty of Americans right now who are qualified, who are better, who want those jobs, but companies instead decide to underpay foreigners to do those jobs.
01:18:10.000So half of the H-1Bs went to these staffing or outsourcing companies.
01:18:16.000And actually in 2024, the staffing company Cognizant was found guilty of discriminating against Americans in favor of Indians, just to be clear.
01:18:25.000Cognizant was a company with the most H-1B approvals, 2013 all the way through 2019, and then 2024. They had a good run, and then they made a comeback 2024. And here's something else, too.
01:18:37.000So you have people who are not better than Americans, people who are coming from countries that engage in degree fraud and resume fraud or inflation, and then these companies who favor people from these nations skim off the top and take commissions.
01:18:52.000So just the Indian Staffing Company, HCL, $7 billion in their annual revenue came from the United States H-1B market alone.
01:19:52.000Maybe you're thinking like some engineer for Mercedes who's coming to the American headquarters who's so skilled that they need this person here.
01:20:41.000That's a lazy sport invented in America.
01:20:43.000This is a system that is being abused.
01:20:45.000It's being abused by American tech corporations who want to displace American workers and underpay them.
01:20:49.000And it is being abused by those in government to try and purchase votes.
01:20:52.000And it is being abused by these third-party staffing companies in India, or who bring people from India, to commit fraud and to take a commission.
01:22:13.000You say it's racist for me to say, hey, I think that we have Americans, and by think I mean know that we have Americans who are qualified, who are better, who want these jobs, who want to be paid fairly.
01:22:22.000By the way, this is not capitalism, lest you socialists, former Bernie bros try and throw it at me.
01:22:27.000If I say, hey, hold on a second, we should focus on Americans first, and there's nothing about India that I want to import here as a matter of culture, history, or mindset.