On this episode of the show, the boys talk about the current state of the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, the Oslo Accords, and much more. They also talk about some of the issues that are going on in the Middle East right now.
00:00:46.000I just don't think I don't think people take that into account.
00:00:48.000Yeah, so, you know, and this is an interesting concept because, you know, and it could go either way because Israel does have nuclear weapons and they're the only country in the region that has nuclear weapons.
00:00:59.000You can make the argument that Saudi Arabia Sudo has them because it just signed his deal with Pakistan.
00:01:06.000Yes, it would definitely make things worse because all these Arab countries would attack them and then they would use the Samsung option and destroy everybody.
00:01:15.000But they do obviously have nuclear weapons.
00:01:18.000But I do think if we didn't give cover for them so much and we didn't give them all the support that we have, it would be either A, they'd be forced to diplomacy table and figure something out, or B, what you're saying, which is a possibility as well, is, you know, we'd have a bloodbath in that region where it would literally be a fight of existential crisis.
00:01:33.000Because I think diplomacy has been tried.
00:02:14.000But I think in general, I would say, because Netanyahu, right, since 96 has been bragging about sabotaging the Oslo Accords.
00:02:23.000He's been caught on camera talking about it.
00:02:24.000And the West Bank, there's this famous video of him in the West Bank talking about, hey, yeah, I've sabotaged the Oslo Accords between Yasser Arafat and Isaac Rabin.
00:02:33.000And many people, to this day, Vinit Sak Rabin's wife, I think she wrote a memoir or a book that she suspects to this day that it was Netanyahu that called the shot for him to be killed because the person that assassinated Isaac Rabin was actually a Likud party member, a farmer Likud party member.
00:02:46.000And then Netanyahu came into power later.
00:02:48.000And there hasn't been a two-state solution discussion really since.
00:02:51.000Both of them are sabotaging the people.
00:03:00.000Because if you add up the money we give to Israel, first off, we give more to like Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:03:04.000But if you add up the neighboring nations who would likely, like you said, blow them all face the map, we give them more than Israel individually.
00:03:09.000Yeah, we give Jordan and Egypt a whole bunch of money because of Israel, right?
00:03:12.000Because, hey, you guys are there on the borders.
00:03:21.000So, you know, and obviously having to, if you guys want to have a discussion on the issues or who's more at fault, I do think that the Israelis bear more responsibility when it comes to the lack of peace with what's gone on.
00:03:36.000So going back, just because I grew up Muslim, right, and come from a Muslim background, you know, doesn't mean that I'm going to, you know, align with everything that they have.
00:03:44.000And one of the things that bothers me, and a lot of them get mad at me for this, is like, I look at things from a fairly objective standpoint.
00:03:51.000And the reality is Muslims are about 1% to 2% of the population in America.
00:03:54.000And I think playing the Aden in major cities like Dearborn or, you know, Minneapolis, even if it's only once or twice a day, because I've gotten some people say, well, they only play the Aden once.
00:04:36.000But I had not seen the full footage, but they actually were.
00:04:39.000It was like they took off like kind of like a block area and they're praying.
00:04:42.000They're using a loudspeaker, everything else like that.
00:04:44.000And I said, look, as a guest, right, by definition, because they're only about 2% of the population, which clearly they're not the majority, and this country wasn't founded by Muslims.
00:05:07.000And I don't think it's fair to like, because even if it is a majority, let's say it's like, because I think in Dearborn, it's like maybe 50% Muslim.
00:05:18.000I still think that's inappropriate because there are people there that aren't Muslim.
00:05:20.000And then, hell, even people that are Muslim that aren't practicing might get annoyed by it.
00:05:23.000I think it should be, you know, I'm not saying don't worship, don't have the ability to have your own mosque and everything else like that, right?
00:05:29.000But I do think once you start getting into the position where you're impacting other people's, you know, peace and serenity, I think that's a problem.
00:05:36.000And I think his guests here are just not appropriate because, like you said before, they would never allow that in a Muslim country.
00:05:42.000And then obviously, because the first time I made this tweet, right, this is why I had to clarify it.
00:05:45.000I said, you know, if a bunch of Christians went to Mecca and tried to pray there, they'd be beheaded.
00:05:49.000And obviously, a lot of the Muslims are like, well, that's not the functional equivalent of Dearborn, Michigan, bro.
00:05:56.000Obviously, I'm using a little bit of hyperbole.
00:05:58.000What I mean, to give a functional equivalent, if you went to UAE, right?
00:06:01.000And I think I mentioned in that tweet, the UAE, which is a very, you know, a modernized Muslim country, and you try to pray, a bunch of Christians try to set up like 50 to 100 of them like they did in Times Square in front of Burj Khalifa, the tallest building in the world, and try to do a prayer.
00:06:14.000I guarantee you that the police would probably come in and tell you, you guys got to get out of here.
00:06:18.000Like you guys can't just you up or whatever.
00:06:21.000So, but then people tell me, oh, well, this is the, you know, there's freedom of religion in America.
00:06:25.000Yeah, there's freedom of religion here, but not at the expense of other people having their, you know, their pieces disrupted with an Adan or, you know, loudspeakers, all those other stuff.
00:07:11.000And it's a way to make a point, but it's like, of course, no one would even consider it.
00:07:15.000And that's where I think that Western white, you know, largely European, we're just in our sympathies and our humanity and our civility is used against us.
00:07:24.000And I, you know, and they get mad at me for saying this, but I'm like, look, you know, Islam doesn't bend or fold.
00:07:30.000This is why, you know, people follow it is because, you know, they're very rigid and, you know, their belief system and everything else like that.
00:07:35.000And that's going to kill you if you don't in those countries.
00:07:38.000So like the same level, I think, and I think Christians or the people that found this country, because I do think that America is a Christian white country, they have the right to feel threatened and feel like, hey, well, we don't want you guys openly practicing.
00:08:25.000No, they didn't even want Catholics to be signers.
00:08:26.000Because their claim is right after 9-11, right?
00:08:29.000A lot of the framers, which is true with Peanak and the Clean Break memo and all these guys that led us into the Iraq war and our foreign policy.
00:08:36.000A lot of them were Jewish Zionists that had a self-interest in demonizing Muslims for the betterment of the war on terror.
00:08:41.000I'm like, okay, look, I'm not going to disagree with you guys that, you know, the war on terror and everything else like that, a lot of it was, you know, run by these Jewish neocons that had to demonize Muslims to kind of get this war going the way that they wanted, linking anthrax to Saddam Hussein, which was all bullshit.
00:08:58.000I agree that when they say, oh, this is Jewish propaganda, I agree with that.
00:09:02.000Now let's deal with how they, if they control the media, they control the books, they control everything else, and they put all this information out there.
00:09:09.000Are we going to exacerbate the problem by confirming the stereotypes and praying out in public?
00:09:12.000Or are we going to be good, gracious guests and do what we're supposed to do and like, you know, pray under our privacy?
00:09:17.000Why do we need to go ahead and outwardly do all this stuff and confirm the stereotypes?
00:09:21.000Because when you're out there praying in Times Square or having the downplay in major cities, all you're doing is confirming the very stereotypes that you're pissed off about that you cry Islamophobia when they say, look, see, they're trying to push, spread the caliphate.
00:09:32.000Look, see, they want to come in and spread Islam here, blah, blah, blah.
00:09:35.000And you're just playing into the stereotypes by doing that.
00:09:39.000That's a valid concern because there's a difference between, let's just say, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, whatever it is.
00:09:46.000In Islam, and I think you would probably can see this, that Islam has a very clear political prescription that is antithetical to the Constitution.
00:09:54.000When you look at the Constitution, I actually agree with that too.
00:10:03.000And so hearing the Islamic call to prayer and understanding how many Sharia courts exist in the UK, and for example, in Dearborn, I don't know if you know this, the amount of missing children in Dearborn, it's several multiples higher than the rest of the country.
00:10:14.000And that's because they do it in their own mosques.
00:10:25.000But in Dearborn, they just leave with the kids.
00:10:27.000We had a lady who used to be on the show anonymously from Sterling Heights who had to literally hire like a private investigator to get her kids back because no one in her Islamic community would help her find her kids.
00:10:37.000And so Americans go, this is a system of laws that we have a problem with, which is very, like, we don't have the same issue with, okay, you have a Buddhist temple.
00:11:06.000So, and, you know, and these are just ugly, these are this is the truth that a lot of Muslims get mad at me for saying when I say things like, look, we're here as guests.
00:11:24.000And if you don't, and I tell them all the time, look, you want to hear the prayer?
00:11:27.000You want to be in a more Muslim, more religious Muslim country where you don't have to deal with a lot of these Western values, you can go to Qatar, you can go to UAE, you can go to Kuwait.
00:11:35.000These are all very, you know, rich, first world, safe, clean countries.
00:11:48.000But you know, but the reality is, right, like they, they can go to these countries and they get mad at me when I say these things like, dude, we're guests here.
00:11:53.000Oh, well, no, we're not because this is a separation of church and state.
00:11:56.000Look, dude, when Thomas Jefferson like framed this stuff and he was talking about the separation of church and state, that was so the government would influence the church and vice versa.
00:12:03.000It was written with Christian ideology in mind, not with Muslim ideology in mind.
00:12:07.000So like, you know, and they always make this argument, well, we can do, we can do a freedom religion.
00:12:11.000Again, just because you could doesn't mean you should.
00:12:14.000And if, and we come to the same conclusion, they say, well, that's Zionist propaganda, that's Jewish propaganda.
00:12:28.000Because, and we were joking about this, because from this tweet, which by the way, and I want to be very, I think it's very well articulated, and I agree.
00:12:34.000You got so much by then people saying you were a Jewish shill.
00:12:37.000So do you ever ask yourself, like, some of the things that you said, whether it's Hitler or talking about the Jewish question, Jewish problem, considering how much common ground you have with other conservatives and now having experience where people accuse you of that, you ever go like, maybe this isn't the best issue to focus on when there are people who agree with me on 80%?
00:12:54.000Like, for example, our disagreement as far as defund all of it.
00:12:59.000Like we should be mostly on the same side, but it definitely has acted as a wedge issue where people will say that I'm a Jewish shill from my perspective, just like they'll say you are.
00:13:08.000And so do you sometimes think maybe feeding into that isn't great if we want to continue the wins in the country?
00:13:37.000As much as I love to blame the Jews for everything.
00:13:39.000You know, I do think it's also important, right, when we're having serious discussions on this topic of Zionism, Jewish power in America, et cetera, that you need to be extremely specific and detailed in how you articulate your points because you don't want to be one of these conspirators where it's always the Jews.
00:13:53.000Like, for example, when people say things like, Israel did 9-11, I don't like saying that.
00:13:57.000I like to say there's Zionist fingerprints all over 9-11.
00:14:00.000Or if we want to talk about JFK, you know, the Jews killed JFK.
00:14:03.000Not so true, but there are Zionist fingerprints all over this, and I can articulate why, so that, you know, we can have actual conversation on it.
00:14:09.000And, you know, my thing when it comes to 9-11, right?
00:14:11.000Just so I give my full position, I think the Saudis, the American government, and the Israelis were involved, but no one ever mentions the Saudis.
00:14:16.000They try to stay away from it, or they don't mention the conspiratards, I mean.
00:14:20.000So, you know, or what JFK, just the Jews.
00:14:22.000Well, the mafia was involved as well on the CIA for a bunch of different reasons.
00:14:26.000So I think when we talk about this topic, it's extremely important, you know, to maintain that credibility that you can articulate your points and not only just articulate them, but no names, no individuals, how they were connected and be able to explain all that.
00:14:37.000So, you know, of course, we're going to have retards that are going to sit there and say you're a Zionist Jew or a show, whatever.
00:14:42.000I don't care about what you guys, you retards got to say because the smart ones are going to get it.
00:14:47.000So I'm trying to appeal to the more intelligent individuals that understand that you can't blame everything on the ship.
00:14:51.000Do you think there are a lot of smart ones in that side?
00:14:53.000In other words, like we were talking about.
00:14:54.000There's a lot of retards in general everywhere.
00:14:56.000But like you were talking about too, like you, I think we, I don't want to out you, I think we're in agreement that Israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
00:15:04.000Yeah, there are questions that are unanswered, but like the idea of secret Jewish tunnels is kind of absurd, right?
00:15:15.000And so that's why I asked like, how many people do you think are capable of having, like, how many people do you think are capable of going, okay, doesn't like AIPAC.
00:16:17.000And actually, funny story, I was literally scheduled the next day to do a college debate in North Carolina and I had to cancel it.
00:16:22.000So obviously that hit me a little bit differently because when you're doing the same thing as you as well, it hit us a lot different than other people because we have been in those shoes and understand what it's like to be on these college campuses talking to these people and trying to make a change and then getting shot in the neck for a political opinion is absurd.
00:16:38.000You made changes going forward, doing it.
00:16:42.000Obviously going to take security more seriously.
00:16:43.000Maybe we might not necessarily publicly announce, you know, right before.
00:16:48.000But yeah, when it comes to this topic of, here's the other thing too, right?
00:16:52.000So like this topic of Jewish power, Zionism, et cetera, it's been suppressed for so long.
00:16:56.000And since we can finally talk about it now fairly openly compared to years past because of what transpired on October 7th, people are going nuts, right?
00:17:04.000And it's like you let a kid into a candy store that had never seen candy before in their life.
00:17:07.000They're like, oh, the Jews and everything.
00:17:19.000So I do think that there's a level of nuance that people need to be still exercise that same level of critical thinking and be able to, you know, discern, you know, were the Jews involved in this?
00:18:03.000I think the IDF and Hamas are both terrorists according to the definition of terrorism, committing violence and acts of political ideology.
00:18:11.000The only difference is that the IDF is well-funded.
00:18:14.000They call themselves the military, even though they've been killing kids for literally for two years.
00:18:20.000And we've seen the terrors of what's going on.
00:18:22.000So I look at it like both sides have their issues.
00:18:25.000It's just that we support and look at one side as the good guys when I think that they're just as, if not more evil in some ways than the other.
00:18:32.000Well, I think there's one other difference.
00:18:35.000And I know you're very private, so I don't know if you have kids or discuss it or let's just say family members.
00:19:13.000That is the difference because that conflict was whether there was a standdown order, which I think is a legitimate conversation for people to have.
00:19:19.000Whether people want to talk about what transpired before that, the difference is the hostages and the gleeful celebration and sort of coveting they're in.
00:20:06.000But yeah, so my position on this is like, so when it comes to Israel's response to what happened on that day, I think it was asymmetric.
00:20:16.000They didn't need to go that far, especially when I understand how the capabilities of the Israeli military and their intelligence services.
00:20:27.000Like, I mean, they were able to launch that pager attack against Hezbollah, right?
00:20:30.000They had those bombs in those pages for like 10 years.
00:20:32.000Operation Rising Lions with what they did with Iran, where they were able to activate Mossad agents that were in, that literally had drones in country that they built up over several months.
00:20:41.000So the reason why I will never accept what Israel did in retaliation to get their hostages back in Gaza is because I know that they can do better and they have the capability of doing it because they did it with far more competence with governments and time.
00:20:54.000So a lot of people don't know this, but there was a deal on the table to get those hostages back on October 10th of 2023.
00:21:02.000Because what ended up happening was the Israelis started putting out, oh, mass rapes, beheaded babies, babies in ovens.
00:21:08.000they knew that they were going to get bombarded and Gaza was going to be leveled because they were pushing this atrocity propaganda, which later ended up getting debunked later on.
00:21:18.000Unless these were videos, I've watched them, pretty awful videos, and I think everyone should have to watch them.
00:21:23.000Yeah, and I watched that interview, the thing that there was a 45-minute compilation video that Israel had that they only showed to journalists first, then they put out publicly eventually with the GoPros and everything.
00:21:33.000The research team was able, I mean, you know, we're pretty good at this.
00:21:35.000We was able to kind of find original sources and not just the compilation.
00:21:38.000And I would say that would have been overblown, but this idea that there were no rapes or absolute just sheer brutality that challenges your definition of human evil.
00:21:50.000No, I'm not denying it that it happened.
00:21:51.000I'm saying that it didn't happen the way that they're saying.
00:21:53.000Like babies in ovens, babies getting beheaded.
00:21:55.000These were all lies pushed by the Zach organization, which the Zach organization was the organization that was responsible for picking up a lot of the bodies on the day because basically anytime there's a catastrophe in Israel like this, they're some of the first people on the scene to prepare the body for Jewish burial.
00:22:11.000Because they have pretty strict burial things.
00:22:43.000But I do think it's important to know that on that day, the Hannibal Directive was activated.
00:22:48.000Israel killed a lot of their own people with their helicopter, their Apache helicopters, tank shooting into kibbutz, because they looked at it like, yo, and this is a strategy that they have, the Hannibal Directive.
00:22:58.000I know you guys know what it is, but for your audience, they might not be familiar.
00:23:00.000The Hannibal Directive is a military strategy where if people are being kidnapped, whether civilian or military, they say it's military, but effectively everyone in Israel is a soldier too, because they pretty much have to join the military and serve for two years.
00:23:13.000Instead of them having to deal with the nightmares of a hostage negotiation, because they know for every Israeli that gets back over there to Gaza, they're going to have to give up 100 Palestinians in one of their prisons.
00:23:22.000They would just rather just shoot them and kill them and not have to deal with that diplomatic nightmare later on.
00:23:27.000So on that day, October 7th, the Hannibal Directive was absolutely activated.
00:23:31.000And this came confirmed by Yoav Galant, who was this, our equivalent to like a Pete Hexeth, Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense.
00:23:38.000That was their defense minister at the time.
00:23:40.000And the other thing that I was doing is that they weren't.
00:24:01.000But, okay, what would you be willing to do to get your hostages back at that point?
00:24:08.000And if we're going to separate between the Israeli government, rightfully so, and the Israeli people, and by the way, the Israeli people are largely secular.
00:25:09.000We don't care about the deal to get them back because Hamas was going to give them all the hostages back in exchange for them not invading Gaza.
00:25:51.000I mean, the amount of friendly fire that has taken place in the United States, every single war since Korea, just against the Brits, hundreds of people dead.
00:25:59.000But those people are going, I need my brother back.
00:26:31.000We've got every single security council we've but I will say when I'm saying October 10th I'm talking about three days after the attack they could have gotten all the hostages back but Netanyahu refused yeah but what was that's being reported though by somebody who said that that's what Netanyahu said right so just to be clear I and I think it's important I don't think it's I don't think it's a stretch to say that Netanyahu saw an opportunity at all I agree with that based on his history based on I I mean, you know his position coming into this.
00:26:59.000He was in the middle of a corruption trial.
00:27:33.000And also, I went to college where I heard nothing but pro-Palestinian activists, including, by the way, secular Jewish activists in college.
00:27:40.000So we saw plenty of pieces of propaganda coming from the side saying, look at what's happening in Palestine that we invariably found out were also false.
00:27:49.000Like, yeah, so like, obviously there's very, you know, anti-Israel sentiment in the media.
00:27:54.000I'm not making that argument that there isn't.
00:27:57.000My thing is just that the way they went about October 7th with the capabilities that they have, the intelligence that they have, you know, they could have absolutely went about it in another way to get their Hodges back without the mass loss of human life, which, you know, I think, and it's ostracized.
00:28:10.000The reason why we're even able to have this conversation now is because Israel up so badly that the international committee now, everyone is familiar with what's going on.
00:28:17.000Before October 7th, most Americans didn't even know what Zionism was, right?
00:28:21.000But with this deeper dives, we've had some time, right?
00:28:24.000Unless you're like a political guy, most Americans had no idea where Israel was on a map, what Zionism was, et cetera, or even being able to have this conversation.
00:28:32.000But I think the way that they responded after October 7th was egregious and they could have done better.
00:28:38.000And they could have got the Hodges back with far less bloodshed.
00:28:41.000Now, some people might say, hey, well, Netanyahu might have had personal reasons, or why should he cave into terrorists and let them attack and just get the Hodges back and not invade?
00:28:50.000But I think the way they went about it was, you know, really bad.
00:28:54.000I will say the way they went about it as far as what was a problem is they didn't give a clear timetable.
00:28:59.000And I said, if I am someone who, again, not a Netanyahu apologist at all, but if I am in the Israeli government or spokesperson, I go, nothing changes until our hostages come back.
00:29:36.000That being said, I think it's important that we don't allow Zionism or support, for example, of Israel's right to self-preservation to be defined by people who are new to this party, just going like, it's all a Jewish conspiracy, right?
00:29:49.000And then you have people going, and by the way, Hitler was good, which I wanted to give you.
00:30:51.000And so, you know, I don't typically quote Douglas Murray because I think Dave Smith in a lot of ways made him look foolish on Rogan.
00:31:00.000But listen, I think here's the problem.
00:31:03.000Douglas Murray did have a legitimate gripe because as soon as, what was it, Coleman Hughes, I can't remember the guy's name, as soon as he pinned him down, he said, Well, I'm just a comedian talking about this stuff.
00:31:11.000And that's exactly what Douglas Murray said that Dave Smith would do, right?
00:31:15.000So when he was, I think he was talking to Coleman Hughes.
00:31:17.000And so anyway, my question is: Douglas Murray made a really good point.
00:31:21.000My problem with this is that it's been stretched on for two years and there's this long kind of loss of life.
00:31:27.000That's why you don't start them, right?
00:31:28.000You don't get to start a war and then complain about losing it.
00:31:32.000Do you think one of the problems that we've had is that we have kept Israel at bay when if they had been able to go in, finish a war quickly, like we've talked about, if the United States ever goes to war, you go in, you wreck shop, and you're done.
00:31:46.000It's better for everybody involved to be done, not 10-year wars, nothing like that.
00:31:50.000Do you think there's anything to like solving this conflict if, and here's the big if, if the people on both sides can't really get it right and have never proven they will?
00:32:00.000Because I don't think the Palestinians, the river to the sea, is one of those things you got to deal with.
00:32:04.000It's not that they just want a two-state solution.
00:32:09.000And if we're saying that Israel's never really going to leave these guys to any kind of self-determination, is that like an unstoppable object meeting and immovable force and we just need to let it play out instead of prolonging it?
00:32:20.000And it's heartless to say Palestinians are movable just to throw it out.
00:32:34.000No, I think I do think that, you know, they have come to agreements where I think they would get like 20% of the 1967 borders and everything.
00:32:42.000You know, and here's the thing: both parties have their issues with, you know, exercising some level of diplomacy.
00:32:48.000I just think that us supporting the Israelis and the things that they do, where, you know, they've killed far more.
00:33:04.000Yeah, I've killed a lot of Christians as well.
00:33:06.000You know, there's a good amount of Palestinian Christians that have been killed and churches bombed in Gaza.
00:33:10.000But, you know, it's a tough situation.
00:33:12.000These guys have been fighting each other for you can argue since 1917 or maybe even before that when the first Civil Wars came in in the late 1800s.
00:33:23.000And if we are going to get in there and intervene the way that we've been doing, we can't just be funding one side.
00:33:28.000If we want actual peace in the Middle East, there needs to be some type of strategy to give the Palestinians right to self-determination, whether it's a one-state or a two-state solution.
00:34:09.000It's either A, the Arab world is going to descend on Israel and destroy them, right?
00:34:14.000Missiles are going to rain down on them, or B, which obviously is very probable because Israel is a nuclear superpower, they're going to take everybody with them.
00:34:22.000So either way, there's going to be a lot of bloodshed if we were to stop giving aid all the way.
00:34:27.000But isn't that sort of, doesn't that sort of make the point of people who would be on the more pro-Israeli side?
00:34:32.000Because you just sort of presented A or B.
00:34:44.000I notice you didn't say C, which is if Israel takes Palestine, it's now one state, that Israel does that and rains hellfire on everyone in the region they could.
00:34:53.000That wasn't even an option in your head.
00:35:39.000I think Israel's, you know, definitely wants to expand.
00:35:42.000And the Gaza, I think that there's a whole plan there where they want, I think I predict because they've already seen they've shown like the pictures of this and the projects.
00:35:49.000They're going to turn that into like international city, kind of like a Dubai or a UAE, where they're going to put casinos and resorts and all this other stuff there.
00:35:57.000Because I think what Dubai has done is it's created a model where, oh, people could come to the Middle East for tourism.
00:36:01.000This is why Saudi Arabia started economic prosperity starts changing.
00:36:05.000Allowing alcohol, letting women drive, bringing WWE and stuff like that now.
00:36:10.000They're trying to become an entertainment hub.
00:36:14.000So that's what's going on in the Middle East where they're trying to modernize and not rely so much on oil revenue versus they want to bring tourism revenue.
00:36:19.000So I predict that Gaza is going to probably be there.
00:36:23.000And I think that the goal here is to get those Palestinians out of there.
00:36:26.000And I predict in the next, maybe not now, but in the next 10, 20, 30 years, they're going to rebuild that thing and make it a tourist thing, which I think that's another incentive for the Israelis to take over and expand.
00:36:53.000It doesn't matter what border they happen to fall behind.
00:36:56.000And I think that's what's moved all of us to like, you know what, maybe we're not so supportive of us giving money to these guys after we've seen what our tax dollars lead to.
00:37:03.000And at some point, I just think we need to find some kind of middle ground where the Palestinians and the Israelis can come together and have some level of peace.
00:37:10.000But until we solve this Palestine question, man, there's just never going to be peace in the Middle East.
00:37:28.000But I do think that's step one towards fixing the situation, especially for the Israelis, where they will finally be accepted by these Arab countries.
00:37:36.000My issue is people go, you're America first.
00:37:38.000And I go, yeah, yeah, no, I think we should just not intervene at all, pull all of our money.
00:37:40.000And they go, yeah, but there needs to be some guardrails.
00:38:31.000But that's the one thing I would say they have right is like this interventionist foreign policy that we've been practicing since the Bush.
00:38:36.000Well, we've been practicing it forever, but it really took a push during the Bush era.
00:38:40.000And having all, you know, being involved in the Middle East.
00:38:42.000I think China is one of the biggest threats that we really need to focus on.
00:38:44.000We need to be focusing on them explicitly, at least at Bush Senior War.
00:39:45.000So we all know that the past four years we've had to deal with insane levels of censorship, whether it be from YouTube or Twitch or these other bullshit platforms.
00:39:55.000Everyone on the right wing to some degree has been targeted with the last super pro censorship era that we came from with the Biden administration.
00:40:01.000So when I talk about, you know, Hitler is one of the most misunderstood individuals in history or, you know, was everything true that they told us about World War II?
00:40:09.000What I'm really talking about is it's a middle finger to censorship.
00:40:13.000So when I throw up a Roman salute, it's not about saying, oh, yeah, let's gass all the Jews and kill all the Jews.
00:40:17.000No, it's a middle finger to censorship.
00:40:19.000And the biggest way to give that middle censorship is to attack the things that they've been censoring the hardest, right?
00:40:31.000freedom of speech is important and for us to continue to be able to have freedom of speech we need trailblazers that are willing to be really because if you if you lose if you don't use it We don't need guilers.
00:40:39.000But I was doing YouTube Hitler in 2015.
00:42:28.000It wasn't the Treaty of Versailles as explicitly like everybody points to.
00:42:32.000Everybody was actually doing okay in the Roaring 20s.
00:42:35.000They weren't doing as well as the United States and developed countries, but it wasn't that.
00:42:38.000It was once the Great Depression started in the United States, dragged down the world economy.
00:42:42.000Then Hitler comes up because of the economic issues.
00:42:45.000Yeah, there was a bunch of different issues.
00:42:47.000But my thing is that, like, right, so number one, this guy's like the most censored dude in history.
00:42:51.000And like, no one ever talks about how, like, you know, there was a period of time where he literally took Germany from like the worst to obviously one of the strongest economies in the world, right?
00:42:59.000Through because everyone says Nazi, you know, which was really the National Socialist Party.
00:43:04.000He instituted a bunch of things to help the country with, you know, regaining its prominence.
00:43:10.000And I think that that's a problem where we demonize people so much or censor the topic so much where we can't even have real discourse or conversations on other things that might have occurred during that period of time.
00:43:19.000So me saying the things that I say about Hitler, it's more of a middle finger to the censorship regime that we've had to deal with versus being like, oh, yeah, I love Hitler.
00:43:27.000It's more about we need to be able to discuss anything, even if it is Hitler.
00:43:30.000No, I think discussions are necessary, but I think you and I both see a difference between being able to say, f it, you know, love it.
00:44:50.000So when I said Hitler was right, what I meant was where Jews control media, finances, and certain institutions in countries and they have overrepresentation in certain types of institutions to their benefit.
00:45:05.000So that's what I was talking about when I said Hitler was right about y'all, about that.
00:45:08.000Now, obviously, people are going to clip that and be like, look, see, he said it was right about everything.
00:45:13.000No, but what I was saying is that in his book, if you read Mein Koff or whatever, Henry Ford actually was the first one to bring these ideas.
00:45:19.000Henry Ford sent private letters to Hitler and he was an actual anti-Semitic.
00:45:54.000And I think that's something that we can actually take a page from them is that unity.
00:45:59.000Because they're hardcore nationalists when it comes to that degree of protecting each other.
00:46:04.000But that's what I meant when I said Hill was right about them.
00:46:07.000I meant as in using wood jury, controlling certain institutions for their benefit, using certain things to their benefit, and self-preserving.
00:46:23.000If we look at the American politics, whether it's AIPAC and not having to register under FARA, them being able to get away with certain false flags or being involved in situations they should have been involved in, stealing our nuclear technology, not being held accountable.
00:46:37.000These are all things I meant when I said that Hitler was right about them, where they subvert their host nation to their benefit.
00:46:43.000But maybe he was wrong in his obsession and hyper-focus, because you mentioned APAC.
00:46:47.000They don't even crack like the top 150 as far as PAC organizations.
00:46:50.000And I know here's the one thing that does happen with people.
00:46:52.000And I think you would disagree with these people too, who go, ACT Blue gives, whatever it is, 10, five times APAC.
00:47:22.000The issue that I have, and by the way, we've had this exact conversation where I've said, we do need to find out how Hitler comes to be, whether you agree with him or not.
00:47:28.000We need to be able to have the conversation to find out he comes to be so we can determine if we need to prevent that or if we support it in the future.
00:47:35.000Of course, I'm anti, just to be clear.
00:47:38.000But then the problem I have is with the lies.
00:47:40.000When people go, and Hitler was a Christian.
00:48:18.000If you want to say they were browbeaten on the international stage over Treaty of Versailles, and it's a perfect example of how not to act in international diplomacy.
00:49:57.000This comes back to what I said before, where we have to be very precise.
00:49:59.000So like what you were talking about, right?
00:50:01.000And adding more context to it, that is very important because, for example, people look at it in the book burnings, because this all came from Jews coming out saying, look, he burned all our Torahs.
00:50:12.000But the reality is during those book burnings, the famous pictures, a lot of that was, you know, from the Sex Institute from Magnus Hirschfeld on Transformation.
00:50:25.000That comes from them seeing the book burnings and being told one thing, and then them just distrusting everything.
00:50:30.000And that's kind of what sucks where when something is suppressed for so long, we can't have these conversations.
00:50:34.000But then, like, what ends up happening is like the conspirators will have leverage because they're like, see, this has been suppressed forever.
00:50:39.000So now I can go ahead and put in these other things that might not necessarily be true because they lied to you about this.
00:50:44.000So, look, they're lying to you about this as well, not knowing that that person's lying about that little fact.
00:50:48.000Especially post-COVID, because people trust nothing.
00:51:48.000The problem is you will get shit for what you've said.
00:51:50.000And I will get shit because now there's this environment of people going, if you don't agree, they go, you're, man, it's two sides of team sports.
00:53:06.000You get to the conspiracy end of everything, and Hitler was right about the Jews and they had too much power.
00:53:10.000You get all the way to the end of it, and it's like, well, I can't talk about any of it now because now I'm dealing with swatting that crap down.
00:54:42.000If you could fracture the right and erase all the wins, it would be create a faction of people who call both Myron, Stephen Crowder, Gerald, Nick Frontis, whoever, Zionist shills, no matter what they say.
00:54:54.000It would be a very effective way to fracture the right.
00:54:56.000Yeah, no, and then we're already seeing kind of it happen sometimes right now because now we're in and, you know, obviously, and I'll tell you this, if a Democrat ever gets in, I truly do think we're all cooked.
00:55:04.000Like, they're going to, they're going to absolutely.
00:55:22.000And, I mean, they're crazy to think he wasn't going to come back.
00:55:24.000You guys are over here committing mortgage fraud and doing crimes as well, acting as if you're not going to get persecuted now that he's back in power.
00:55:30.000Because they were doing all this shit while committing crimes, which is crazy to me.
00:56:03.000So to me, I think, you know, being able to have difficult discussions, being able to, you know, question everything is something that we need to do.
00:56:10.000So, you know, that's why it's more of a middle finger to the censorship regime.
00:56:14.000And I do think that he is misunderstood and a lot of people don't understand a lot of the things.
00:56:17.000And I do think that he was accurate about a lot of things, especially when it comes to Jewish power, how Jews run things, et cetera.
00:56:21.000Because we're even seeing it now kind of, you know, in American society where we have this ridiculous lobbying power from Zionist Jews in America where they're able to kind of get a lot of the things that they want that other countries or other people might not be able to do, right?
00:56:34.000Like the anti-Semitism laws that they passed and everything else like that.
00:56:36.000I don't think any other group of people would have that level of influence to be able to get that done.
00:56:40.000So that's where I come from when I have that perspective, when I say the things that I say.
00:56:45.000And I think that we should be able to have discussions, even on some of the most taboo topics like we've been able to do now.
00:56:49.000The crazy part is like if we had this conversation on YouTube, it would get banned.
00:56:52.000And I think that's a problem in itself.
00:57:33.000Because, hey, people stand to benefit from a lot of cheap labor.
00:57:35.000And I think Elon's right about a lot of things.
00:57:37.000But then when you kind of bear down on it, you go like, oh, okay, there are some problems here, transhumanism and this idea that we need uncapped H-1Bs.
00:57:44.000And so I'm very, very grateful for Rumble.
00:57:52.000Like, X doesn't even come close because like, yeah, if you criticize, you know, criticize Jews on X, you can get by with it.
00:57:58.000But like, yeah, with the Jews in the H-1B visa, that's actually what got a lot of people jammed up, lost their blue checks.
00:58:03.000It got me demonetized, lost me my blue check because I said these are scam visas that Jeets used to basically come here and get a bunch of dude for a period of time.
00:58:09.000The same thing would happen if you criticized Ashley Sinclair before the cat got out of that bag.
00:59:16.000So he will protect creators to the point where we will turn our service off in your country if you're going to tell us the sense of this guy.
00:59:22.000So yeah, Chris is definitely truly the free speech guy.
01:00:24.000But with the immigration thing, and that's why, because when I was being critical of the H-1B visa, I used to work in immigration as an HSI special agent.
01:00:31.000So I understood that we were getting beat on so many different fronts when it comes to immigration in this country.
01:00:35.000And the H-1B visa was just one of the many ways we were getting beat.
01:00:38.000Because it's not just illegal aliens coming in through the Southwest border.
01:00:41.000It's also our visa system, which is being exploited.
01:00:43.000Our document and benefit system that's getting exploited, whether it's green cards, work authorizations, all this stuff.
01:00:50.000We're getting beat on so many different angles when it comes to immigration.
01:00:52.000And the H-1B visa is one of the ones, one of the ways that we were being exploited the most.
01:00:55.000So when I called it on, I said, this is one of the problems with immigration.
01:00:59.000Boom, you know, you lose your blue check.