Louder with Crowder - Who is the Real Myron Gaines | Ash Wednesday 2025-11-05 18:11

00:00:00.000 Right.

00:00:00.000 Even the people on the left, right?

00:00:01.000 And the people that are in power now with the Likud party are radicals.

00:00:03.000 Like, these guys want to completely get the Palestinians all the way out.

00:00:06.000 So I see your perspective.

00:00:08.000 You're saying, like, the United States is keeping them from going full retard and destroying the entire region. 1.00

00:00:12.000 But at the same time, we don't know, right?

00:00:14.000 That's kind of like a full retard. 1.00

00:00:17.000 Here's the thing.

00:00:18.000 Just looking at America first, okay? 0.74

00:00:20.000 Would it be America first if Canada was launching?

00:00:22.000 Let's just not deal with, let's say, there was some kind of weird history where we said Saskatchewan is ours, whatever.

00:00:27.000 If they're launching rockets and building tunnels, and we at a certain point go, you know what?

00:00:32.000 We're taking over Canada, right?

00:00:34.000 We would do it.

00:00:34.000 It would be in our interest to say we're going to eliminate you.

00:00:38.000 It would be in Israel's interest to eliminate Palestine. 1.00

00:00:41.000 If left to you two hash it out, I think it ends up uglier.

00:00:45.000 And I'm fine with it.

00:00:46.000 I just don't think I don't think people take that into account.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, so, you know, and this is an interesting concept because, you know, and it could go either way because Israel does have nuclear weapons and they're the only country in the region that has nuclear weapons.

00:00:59.000 You can make the argument that Saudi Arabia Sudo has them because it just signed his deal with Pakistan.

00:01:02.000 Right.

00:01:03.000 But we don't know.

00:01:05.000 I mean, I'll tell you this.

00:01:06.000 Yes, it would definitely make things worse because all these Arab countries would attack them and then they would use the Samsung option and destroy everybody. 1.00

00:01:14.000 So who knows?

00:01:15.000 But they do obviously have nuclear weapons.

00:01:18.000 But I do think if we didn't give cover for them so much and we didn't give them all the support that we have, it would be either A, they'd be forced to diplomacy table and figure something out, or B, what you're saying, which is a possibility as well, is, you know, we'd have a bloodbath in that region where it would literally be a fight of existential crisis.

00:01:33.000 Because I think diplomacy has been tried.

00:01:35.000 And like, this is one thing.

00:01:36.000 Even Nanyahu hasn't exercised diplomacy to the best degree, though.

00:01:39.000 I think he's done everything to sabotage it, right?

00:01:42.000 He's bragged many times on camera secretly that he sabotaged the Oslo Accords.

00:01:47.000 I think right now that's true.

00:01:48.000 I think right now he's in the city.

00:01:49.000 I don't think that's true the entire time.

00:01:51.000 I don't think it's true the entire time.

00:01:52.000 I think he's been more diplomatic than Hamas or the Palestinian Authority has been in the past.

00:01:57.000 In the past, if you look at those points in time, I think he had more talks to the table in good faith.

00:02:02.000 I think both sides obviously are double-crossing each other and don't trust each other, which is creates a lot of problems.

00:02:08.000 It's a double-crossed automatic.

00:02:10.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:02:12.000 And it's a very complicated history.

00:02:14.000 But I think in general, I would say, because Netanyahu, right, since 96 has been bragging about sabotaging the Oslo Accords.

00:02:23.000 He's been caught on camera talking about it.

00:02:24.000 And the West Bank, there's this famous video of him in the West Bank talking about, hey, yeah, I've sabotaged the Oslo Accords between Yasser Arafat and Isaac Rabin.

00:02:33.000 And many people, to this day, Vinit Sak Rabin's wife, I think she wrote a memoir or a book that she suspects to this day that it was Netanyahu that called the shot for him to be killed because the person that assassinated Isaac Rabin was actually a Likud party member, a farmer Likud party member.

00:02:46.000 And then Netanyahu came into power later.

00:02:48.000 And there hasn't been a two-state solution discussion really since.

00:02:51.000 Both of them are sabotaging the people.

00:02:52.000 I think we agree, though.

00:02:54.000 In other words, if you just take the money back, I think we need to be out of it.

00:02:56.000 And I don't think we should be giving them aid.

00:02:58.000 And the other things look bad.

00:02:59.000 And the other nations around them.

00:03:00.000 Because if you add up the money we give to Israel, first off, we give more to like Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:03:04.000 But if you add up the neighboring nations who would likely, like you said, blow them all face the map, we give them more than Israel individually. 0.51

00:03:09.000 Yeah, we give Jordan and Egypt a whole bunch of money because of Israel, right? 0.70

00:03:12.000 Because, hey, you guys are there on the borders.

00:03:14.000 We don't want more war.

00:03:15.000 Like, you guys got to play nice and stuff like that.

00:03:17.000 So, yeah.

00:03:18.000 Just stop all of it.

00:03:18.000 We give it a ridiculous.

00:03:19.000 Yes.

00:03:20.000 I agree.

00:03:20.000 Yeah.

00:03:21.000 So, you know, and obviously having to, if you guys want to have a discussion on the issues or who's more at fault, I do think that the Israelis bear more responsibility when it comes to the lack of peace with what's gone on. 0.77

00:03:21.000 I agree. 0.77

00:03:32.000 But that's a whole other conversation.

00:03:33.000 But to go back to the Muslim thing. 1.00

00:03:35.000 So yeah.

00:03:36.000 So going back, just because I grew up Muslim, right, and come from a Muslim background, you know, doesn't mean that I'm going to, you know, align with everything that they have.

00:03:44.000 And one of the things that bothers me, and a lot of them get mad at me for this, is like, I look at things from a fairly objective standpoint.

00:03:51.000 And the reality is Muslims are about 1% to 2% of the population in America.

00:03:54.000 And I think playing the Aden in major cities like Dearborn or, you know, Minneapolis, even if it's only once or twice a day, because I've gotten some people say, well, they only play the Aden once.

00:04:03.000 They only play it twice, blah, blah.

00:04:04.000 Not in Hamtramic. 0.95

00:04:06.000 Where's that?

00:04:06.000 Ham Tramic, Michigan.

00:04:07.000 Oh, they play every five times?

00:04:09.000 As I understand it, yes, definitely more than once.

00:04:12.000 And you would be surprised because people would think Dearborn, but Hamtramic was actually, because it used to be entirely Polish.

00:04:17.000 You could hear it.

00:04:18.000 I was there and I heard it at least twice.

00:04:19.000 Okay.

00:04:20.000 And, you know, I think even playing it from a limited perspective is not a good thing.

00:04:24.000 And they get mad at me.

00:04:25.000 And then also they prayed at Times Square.

00:04:27.000 I had a debate with Sneeko about this.

00:04:29.000 That's why I clarified with that thing.

00:04:31.000 Because when I had the debate with him, he was saying, hey, it's not that big a deal that they're praying at Times Square.

00:04:35.000 We're not disrupting anybody.

00:04:36.000 But I had not seen the full footage, but they actually were.

00:04:39.000 It was like they took off like kind of like a block area and they're praying.

00:04:42.000 They're using a loudspeaker, everything else like that.

00:04:44.000 And I said, look, as a guest, right, by definition, because they're only about 2% of the population, which clearly they're not the majority, and this country wasn't founded by Muslims.

00:04:55.000 It was founded by Christians.

00:04:56.000 I said, I don't think it's appropriate to openly pray, especially when there's mosques everywhere, especially in New York City. 1.00

00:05:03.000 And then, well, what about the Aden?

00:05:05.000 It's a major Muslim area.

00:05:06.000 Well, this isn't a Muslim country. 0.97

00:05:07.000 And I don't think it's fair to like, because even if it is a majority, let's say it's like, because I think in Dearborn, it's like maybe 50% Muslim.

00:05:13.000 It's pretty high.

00:05:13.000 Yeah, it's like 50.

00:05:14.000 It's a small majority.

00:05:16.000 So it's 50 to 60%.

00:05:18.000 I still think that's inappropriate because there are people there that aren't Muslim. 1.00

00:05:20.000 And then, hell, even people that are Muslim that aren't practicing might get annoyed by it.

00:05:23.000 I think it should be, you know, I'm not saying don't worship, don't have the ability to have your own mosque and everything else like that, right?

00:05:29.000 But I do think once you start getting into the position where you're impacting other people's, you know, peace and serenity, I think that's a problem.

00:05:36.000 And I think his guests here are just not appropriate because, like you said before, they would never allow that in a Muslim country. 1.00

00:05:42.000 And then obviously, because the first time I made this tweet, right, this is why I had to clarify it.

00:05:45.000 I said, you know, if a bunch of Christians went to Mecca and tried to pray there, they'd be beheaded. 1.00

00:05:49.000 And obviously, a lot of the Muslims are like, well, that's not the functional equivalent of Dearborn, Michigan, bro. 0.98

00:05:55.000 So I had to be like, okay, idiots.

00:05:56.000 Obviously, I'm using a little bit of hyperbole.

00:05:58.000 What I mean, to give a functional equivalent, if you went to UAE, right?

00:06:01.000 And I think I mentioned in that tweet, the UAE, which is a very, you know, a modernized Muslim country, and you try to pray, a bunch of Christians try to set up like 50 to 100 of them like they did in Times Square in front of Burj Khalifa, the tallest building in the world, and try to do a prayer.

00:06:14.000 I guarantee you that the police would probably come in and tell you, you guys got to get out of here.

00:06:18.000 Like you guys can't just you up or whatever.

00:06:21.000 So, but then people tell me, oh, well, this is the, you know, there's freedom of religion in America.

00:06:25.000 Yeah, there's freedom of religion here, but not at the expense of other people having their, you know, their pieces disrupted with an Adan or, you know, loudspeakers, all those other stuff.

00:06:33.000 So they got mad at me.

00:06:34.000 I think that's important because people go, you're a hypocrite because you're a Muslim darkie. 1.00

00:06:39.000 Yes.

00:06:39.000 They go, you're Muslim darkie.

00:06:40.000 That's what they say.

00:06:41.000 And you're not, though, because you're saying, no, there's a difference.

00:06:44.000 You're being a gracious guest.

00:06:47.000 You are not calling for.

00:06:47.000 You are different.

00:06:48.000 Like, the way to encapsulate this perfectly is Nick DePala, Kosh, I want to say in the early 2000s had a great bit.

00:06:52.000 Remember, they were trying to build a mosque down here where Times Square.

00:06:56.000 Sorry.

00:06:58.000 Yeah, Ground Zero.

00:06:58.000 Ground Zero, the final district.

00:06:59.000 And he goes, I'll tell you what.

00:07:00.000 He goes, all right, Muslims, you can build a mosque in a financial district when we can build a Hooters in Baghdad. 0.88

00:07:06.000 How about that?

00:07:06.000 And he just goes through like a Muslim call to prayer and try the Hot Wing special.

00:07:10.000 Yeah.

00:07:11.000 And it's a way to make a point, but it's like, of course, no one would even consider it.

00:07:15.000 And that's where I think that Western white, you know, largely European, we're just in our sympathies and our humanity and our civility is used against us. 0.73

00:07:24.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 And I, you know, and they get mad at me for saying this, but I'm like, look, you know, Islam doesn't bend or fold.

00:07:30.000 This is why, you know, people follow it is because, you know, they're very rigid and, you know, their belief system and everything else like that.

00:07:35.000 And that's going to kill you if you don't in those countries.

00:07:36.000 Precisely.

00:07:37.000 There's consequences.

00:07:38.000 So like the same level, I think, and I think Christians or the people that found this country, because I do think that America is a Christian white country, they have the right to feel threatened and feel like, hey, well, we don't want you guys openly practicing. 0.97

00:07:49.000 You guys are guests here.

00:07:51.000 You know, if I went to someone's home, you know, and I just kicked my feet up, I could, right?

00:07:55.000 Even if my guests are gracious and say, hey, you could kick your feet up, whatever, but I shouldn't, right?

00:07:59.000 Because, and that was another thing when I was debating with Sneeko.

00:08:01.000 I was like, just because you could, right, with religious freedom doesn't mean you should. 0.87

00:08:05.000 And I think with, and then they then they gave me the argument, well, these are Zionist Jewish propaganda.

00:08:10.000 And I'll tell them, fair.

00:08:11.000 I actually agree that, you know, Jews push this, you know, this anti-Islam rhetoric a lot of the times, and that's fine. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Browning fathers weren't all huge fans of the Jews either.

00:08:19.000 They weren't, no.

00:08:20.000 Rightfully so.

00:08:21.000 But I'm just saying it's just not a valid argument.

00:08:23.000 Like it's Zionist propaganda. 0.58

00:08:25.000 No, they didn't even want Catholics to be signers.

00:08:26.000 Because their claim is right after 9-11, right?

00:08:29.000 A lot of the framers, which is true with Peanak and the Clean Break memo and all these guys that led us into the Iraq war and our foreign policy.

00:08:36.000 A lot of them were Jewish Zionists that had a self-interest in demonizing Muslims for the betterment of the war on terror. 0.80

00:08:41.000 I'm like, okay, look, I'm not going to disagree with you guys that, you know, the war on terror and everything else like that, a lot of it was, you know, run by these Jewish neocons that had to demonize Muslims to kind of get this war going the way that they wanted, linking anthrax to Saddam Hussein, which was all bullshit.

00:08:57.000 That's a whole other conversation.

00:08:58.000 I agree that when they say, oh, this is Jewish propaganda, I agree with that. 1.00

00:09:02.000 Now let's deal with how they, if they control the media, they control the books, they control everything else, and they put all this information out there.

00:09:08.000 How are we going to do it?

00:09:09.000 Are we going to exacerbate the problem by confirming the stereotypes and praying out in public?

00:09:12.000 Or are we going to be good, gracious guests and do what we're supposed to do and like, you know, pray under our privacy?

00:09:17.000 Why do we need to go ahead and outwardly do all this stuff and confirm the stereotypes?

00:09:21.000 Because when you're out there praying in Times Square or having the downplay in major cities, all you're doing is confirming the very stereotypes that you're pissed off about that you cry Islamophobia when they say, look, see, they're trying to push, spread the caliphate.

00:09:32.000 Look, see, they want to come in and spread Islam here, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:09:35.000 And you're just playing into the stereotypes by doing that.

00:09:38.000 I don't think it benefits anyone.

00:09:39.000 That's a valid concern because there's a difference between, let's just say, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, whatever it is.

00:09:46.000 In Islam, and I think you would probably can see this, that Islam has a very clear political prescription that is antithetical to the Constitution. 1.00

00:09:54.000 When you look at the Constitution, I actually agree with that too.

00:09:56.000 Yeah.

00:09:56.000 And Sharia law is not compatible with Western democracy.

00:09:56.000 Yeah.

00:09:59.000 And if they want to do it there, fine, but like, that's not what we do here.

00:10:03.000 Yeah.

00:10:03.000 And so hearing the Islamic call to prayer and understanding how many Sharia courts exist in the UK, and for example, in Dearborn, I don't know if you know this, the amount of missing children in Dearborn, it's several multiples higher than the rest of the country.

00:10:14.000 And that's because they do it in their own mosques. 0.98

00:10:16.000 The man divorces.

00:10:17.000 The woman has no rights. 1.00

00:10:18.000 By the way, an overcorrection, but I also agree because women often are favored in custody battles. 1.00

00:10:22.000 And they just go off with a kid.

00:10:23.000 You could divorce men in Islam very easily. 1.00

00:10:25.000 Right.

00:10:25.000 But in Dearborn, they just leave with the kids.

00:10:27.000 We had a lady who used to be on the show anonymously from Sterling Heights who had to literally hire like a private investigator to get her kids back because no one in her Islamic community would help her find her kids. 1.00

00:10:37.000 And so Americans go, this is a system of laws that we have a problem with, which is very, like, we don't have the same issue with, okay, you have a Buddhist temple.

00:10:42.000 You have a, what's the other one?

00:10:43.000 Baha'i. 1.00

00:10:44.000 The bullshit doesn't really mean anything.

00:10:47.000 I don't know what it means.

00:10:48.000 It's like a Superman ice cream.

00:10:49.000 They just put everything in there.

00:10:51.000 Americans are very hesitant because of the Constitution.

00:10:54.000 Now, like, it's enshrined into law.

00:10:56.000 The freedom of religion itself is antithetical to Sharia law. 0.99

00:10:59.000 I would argue theologically, and as Americans view it.

00:11:03.000 Freedom of speech, too.

00:11:04.000 Yes.

00:11:04.000 Because you can't criticize the Prophet.

00:11:06.000 Yep.

00:11:06.000 So, and, you know, and these are just ugly, these are this is the truth that a lot of Muslims get mad at me for saying when I say things like, look, we're here as guests.

00:11:14.000 We need to respect.

00:11:15.000 And even it says in the Quran, like, you have to respect the host nation that you're in.

00:11:18.000 And, you know, feminism, liberalism, et cetera, these are components of American culture. 1.00

00:11:22.000 Like, it is what it is.

00:11:24.000 And we are here as guests.

00:11:24.000 And if you don't, and I tell them all the time, look, you want to hear the prayer?

00:11:27.000 You want to be in a more Muslim, more religious Muslim country where you don't have to deal with a lot of these Western values, you can go to Qatar, you can go to UAE, you can go to Kuwait.

00:11:35.000 These are all very, you know, rich, first world, safe, clean countries.

00:11:39.000 I've been in UAE many times.

00:11:41.000 Not for the slaves.

00:11:42.000 Well, besides the Indian slaves, who cares about Indians? 1.00

00:11:44.000 They're Jeeps. 0.94

00:11:45.000 Fucking Jeez.

00:11:46.000 We don't give a shit about them.

00:11:48.000 But you know, but the reality is, right, like they, they can go to these countries and they get mad at me when I say these things like, dude, we're guests here.

00:11:53.000 Oh, well, no, we're not because this is a separation of church and state.

00:11:56.000 Look, dude, when Thomas Jefferson like framed this stuff and he was talking about the separation of church and state, that was so the government would influence the church and vice versa.

00:12:03.000 It was written with Christian ideology in mind, not with Muslim ideology in mind.

00:12:07.000 So like, you know, and they always make this argument, well, we can do, we can do a freedom religion.

00:12:11.000 Again, just because you could doesn't mean you should.

00:12:14.000 And if, and we come to the same conclusion, they say, well, that's Zionist propaganda, that's Jewish propaganda.

00:12:18.000 They push out all this Islamophobia.

00:12:19.000 I'm like, all right, cool.

00:12:20.000 I agree with you that this does exist and they push this narrative out there.

00:12:22.000 Are you going to exacerbate the problem and confirm the stereotypes, retard? 0.99

00:12:25.000 That's one issue, though.

00:12:25.000 Or are you going to ask me?

00:12:27.000 I wanted to ask you something.

00:12:28.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:12:28.000 Because, and we were joking about this, because from this tweet, which by the way, and I want to be very, I think it's very well articulated, and I agree.

00:12:33.000 I appreciate that.

00:12:34.000 You got so much by then people saying you were a Jewish shill.

00:12:37.000 So do you ever ask yourself, like, some of the things that you said, whether it's Hitler or talking about the Jewish question, Jewish problem, considering how much common ground you have with other conservatives and now having experience where people accuse you of that, you ever go like, maybe this isn't the best issue to focus on when there are people who agree with me on 80%?

00:12:54.000 Like, for example, our disagreement as far as defund all of it.

00:12:56.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 Screw APAC, screw Axe Blue, screw the Teachers Union, S-CIU, right?

00:12:59.000 Like we should be mostly on the same side, but it definitely has acted as a wedge issue where people will say that I'm a Jewish shill from my perspective, just like they'll say you are.

00:13:08.000 And so do you sometimes think maybe feeding into that isn't great if we want to continue the wins in the country?

00:13:15.000 And I don't say that as an attack.

00:13:18.000 Because there's no winning on this issue.

00:13:19.000 You know the problem.

00:13:20.000 Oh, the Jew, the Jew. 1.00

00:13:21.000 Yeah, yeah, because if you don't follow lockstep, you're a Zionist now. 0.97

00:13:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:25.000 Even though I know you're not, there's no room for kind of having, I hate to say this nuance.

00:13:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:29.000 Well, and that's the thing kind of, right?

00:13:31.000 And this is why I'm so specific, right?

00:13:33.000 Like, you know, we make jokes earlier saying, it's the Jews. 0.80

00:13:35.000 Like, you know, as much as you can.

00:13:36.000 We make those jokes too.

00:13:37.000 As much as I love to blame the Jews for everything. 1.00

00:13:39.000 You know, I do think it's also important, right, when we're having serious discussions on this topic of Zionism, Jewish power in America, et cetera, that you need to be extremely specific and detailed in how you articulate your points because you don't want to be one of these conspirators where it's always the Jews. 0.92

00:13:53.000 Right.

00:13:53.000 Like, for example, when people say things like, Israel did 9-11, I don't like saying that.

00:13:57.000 I like to say there's Zionist fingerprints all over 9-11. 0.97

00:14:00.000 Or if we want to talk about JFK, you know, the Jews killed JFK. 0.70

00:14:03.000 Not so true, but there are Zionist fingerprints all over this, and I can articulate why, so that, you know, we can have actual conversation on it.

00:14:09.000 And, you know, my thing when it comes to 9-11, right?

00:14:11.000 Just so I give my full position, I think the Saudis, the American government, and the Israelis were involved, but no one ever mentions the Saudis.

00:14:16.000 They try to stay away from it, or they don't mention the conspiratards, I mean.

00:14:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:20.000 So, you know, or what JFK, just the Jews.

00:14:22.000 Well, the mafia was involved as well on the CIA for a bunch of different reasons.

00:14:26.000 So I think when we talk about this topic, it's extremely important, you know, to maintain that credibility that you can articulate your points and not only just articulate them, but no names, no individuals, how they were connected and be able to explain all that.

00:14:37.000 So, you know, of course, we're going to have retards that are going to sit there and say you're a Zionist Jew or a show, whatever. 1.00

00:14:41.000 And it's like, whatever, dude.

00:14:42.000 I don't care about what you guys, you retards got to say because the smart ones are going to get it. 1.00

00:14:47.000 So I'm trying to appeal to the more intelligent individuals that understand that you can't blame everything on the ship.

00:14:51.000 Do you think there are a lot of smart ones in that side?

00:14:53.000 In other words, like we were talking about.

00:14:54.000 There's a lot of retards in general everywhere. 1.00

00:14:56.000 But like you were talking about too, like you, I think we, I don't want to out you, I think we're in agreement that Israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk.

00:15:04.000 Yeah, there are questions that are unanswered, but like the idea of secret Jewish tunnels is kind of absurd, right?

00:15:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:10.000 But this is something that proliferates a lot.

00:15:12.000 It's not a small minority.

00:15:14.000 It's a very large percentage.

00:15:15.000 And so that's why I asked like, how many people do you think are capable of having, like, how many people do you think are capable of going, okay, doesn't like AIPAC.

00:15:24.000 Don't fund Israel. 0.92

00:15:25.000 Don't fund the other nations.

00:15:27.000 Okay.

00:15:28.000 But he also wants every last member of Hamas to have a rocket stuffed up their ass until they get the hostages back.

00:15:33.000 How many people kind of, I don't want to say in your camp, but who often accuse Zionists.

00:15:38.000 How many people do you think could hear that position and go, that's pretty rational?

00:15:41.000 I think it's a very small percentage right now.

00:15:43.000 That's my opinion.

00:15:44.000 And I don't know.

00:15:45.000 Yeah, I see what you're saying.

00:15:47.000 I think really the only thing you do is I think if you're a critical thinker, you put your position out there.

00:15:53.000 And right now, when it comes to the whole Charlie Kirk thing, the official narrative has problems with it.

00:15:56.000 I mean, you discussed it earlier.

00:15:58.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:15:58.000 Right.

00:15:58.000 The official narrative has problems with it.

00:16:00.000 The Israeli angle has problems with it.

00:16:02.000 You know, my thing is I just keep an open mind and I'm looking at all the facts.

00:16:05.000 Like, I don't have a definitive timeline on what I think exactly transpired on that day.

00:16:08.000 Obviously, you know, I like Charlie.

00:16:11.000 We spoke before, even though we might disagree on Israel.

00:16:14.000 And I, you know, obviously what happened to him pissed me off.

00:16:16.000 It bothered me a lot.

00:16:17.000 And actually, funny story, I was literally scheduled the next day to do a college debate in North Carolina and I had to cancel it.

00:16:22.000 So obviously that hit me a little bit differently because when you're doing the same thing as you as well, it hit us a lot different than other people because we have been in those shoes and understand what it's like to be on these college campuses talking to these people and trying to make a change and then getting shot in the neck for a political opinion is absurd.

00:16:38.000 You made changes going forward, doing it.

00:16:40.000 Are you going to do it going forward?

00:16:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:42.000 Obviously going to take security more seriously.

00:16:43.000 Maybe we might not necessarily publicly announce, you know, right before.

00:16:48.000 But yeah, when it comes to this topic of, here's the other thing too, right?

00:16:52.000 So like this topic of Jewish power, Zionism, et cetera, it's been suppressed for so long.

00:16:56.000 And since we can finally talk about it now fairly openly compared to years past because of what transpired on October 7th, people are going nuts, right?

00:17:04.000 And it's like you let a kid into a candy store that had never seen candy before in their life.

00:17:07.000 They're like, oh, the Jews and everything. 1.00

00:17:09.000 So, you know what I mean?

00:17:10.000 It's literally what's going on here.

00:17:11.000 So it's like, they all sound like the chubby kid from the guinea.

00:17:14.000 Yeah, like they're just going crazy, right?

00:17:17.000 We can finally discuss this now, yes.

00:17:19.000 So I do think that there's a level of nuance that people need to be still exercise that same level of critical thinking and be able to, you know, discern, you know, were the Jews involved in this?

00:17:29.000 Was it only the Jews? 0.84

00:17:30.000 Were there other components involved?

00:17:31.000 Because it tends to be more to the surface of just it's the Jews. 0.71

00:17:36.000 And it's a very lazy way to analyze problems.

00:17:40.000 No, that's my issue.

00:17:40.000 It's not applied.

00:17:41.000 I do think, and I hate when people just go anti-Semitism as someone has a criticism.

00:17:45.000 You absolutely should.

00:17:46.000 And I think there's, we've made the criticism of Netanyahu that he had an incentive to drag this out.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, he doesn't want to go to court.

00:17:52.000 Doesn't want to go to court.

00:17:53.000 He doesn't want to go to jail, probably.

00:17:54.000 He funded Hamas and supported them, right? 0.99

00:17:56.000 And I know you guys have a strong dislike for Hamas, and I understand that.

00:18:01.000 My thing is I look at it like this.

00:18:03.000 I think the IDF and Hamas are both terrorists according to the definition of terrorism, committing violence and acts of political ideology.

00:18:11.000 The only difference is that the IDF is well-funded.

00:18:14.000 They call themselves the military, even though they've been killing kids for literally for two years.

00:18:20.000 And we've seen the terrors of what's going on.

00:18:22.000 So I look at it like both sides have their issues.

00:18:25.000 It's just that we support and look at one side as the good guys when I think that they're just as, if not more evil in some ways than the other.

00:18:32.000 Well, I think there's one other difference.

00:18:35.000 And I know you're very private, so I don't know if you have kids or discuss it or let's just say family members.

00:18:39.000 No kids, no kids.

00:18:40.000 But you have siblings, cousins, parents.

00:18:43.000 Yeah, of course.

00:18:43.000 Let me ask you this.

00:18:44.000 Here's a big difference.

00:18:45.000 To me, what lengths would you go to if your brothers, sisters, cousins, mothers were being held hostage right now and starved?

00:18:54.000 Is there anything you wouldn't do to get them back?

00:18:57.000 Yeah, no, you would exercise everything in your arsenal to get them back.

00:19:01.000 And I'm definitely sensitive to that with the Israelis. 1.00

00:19:04.000 And there were American hostages, too.

00:19:05.000 So that's where we had a dog in that fight.

00:19:07.000 As far as I'm concerned, once our hostages are back, okay, we have no say in it.

00:19:11.000 But that's the difference.

00:19:13.000 That is the difference because that conflict was whether there was a standdown order, which I think is a legitimate conversation for people to have.

00:19:19.000 Whether people want to talk about what transpired before that, the difference is the hostages and the gleeful celebration and sort of coveting they're in.

00:19:27.000 Like, we've got them.

00:19:28.000 What would you not be willing to do to get your family?

00:19:31.000 I think that's a fundamental difference.

00:19:32.000 And I think it's a difference that determines evil.

00:19:34.000 Yeah.

00:19:35.000 So I think.

00:19:36.000 Just an opinion, though.

00:19:36.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:19:37.000 And that's totally cool.

00:19:38.000 And I think that's why it's important to have this discourse.

00:19:39.000 My position on it is I think the Israeli retaliation, you know, I don't expect you guys to agree with everything I'm going to say. 0.97

00:19:45.000 No, and I don't.

00:19:45.000 And I appreciate that we can have this conversation.

00:19:47.000 I don't want to put you on this.

00:19:48.000 Do it calmly and not, you know, this is the difference between, you know.

00:19:50.000 Online, you just call him a shill, and he basically calls you an anti-Semite, and nobody talks.

00:19:54.000 That's the problem with the online world.

00:19:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:57.000 Cashed, right?

00:19:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.

00:19:58.000 We're the $7,000.

00:19:59.000 Ah, stop it.

00:19:59.000 7,000?

00:20:00.000 By the way, they're just Jeffrey dollars, and there's no toys or wrestling.

00:20:03.000 I know, right?

00:20:03.000 They all closed.

00:20:05.000 Yeah, they are closed.

00:20:06.000 But yeah, so my position on this is like, so when it comes to Israel's response to what happened on that day, I think it was asymmetric.

00:20:16.000 They didn't need to go that far, especially when I understand how the capabilities of the Israeli military and their intelligence services.

00:20:16.000 It was ridiculous.

00:20:23.000 The Mossad, Shinbet, Unit 8200, et cetera.

00:20:26.000 These guys are good.

00:20:27.000 Like, I mean, they were able to launch that pager attack against Hezbollah, right? 0.70

00:20:30.000 They had those bombs in those pages for like 10 years.

00:20:32.000 Operation Rising Lions with what they did with Iran, where they were able to activate Mossad agents that were in, that literally had drones in country that they built up over several months.

00:20:41.000 So the reason why I will never accept what Israel did in retaliation to get their hostages back in Gaza is because I know that they can do better and they have the capability of doing it because they did it with far more competence with governments and time.

00:20:52.000 That's the thing that they did.

00:20:53.000 But here's the other thing, too.

00:20:54.000 So a lot of people don't know this, but there was a deal on the table to get those hostages back on October 10th of 2023.

00:21:02.000 Because what ended up happening was the Israelis started putting out, oh, mass rapes, beheaded babies, babies in ovens. 0.91

00:21:08.000 they knew that they were going to get bombarded and Gaza was going to be leveled because they were pushing this atrocity propaganda, which later ended up getting debunked later on.

00:21:18.000 Unless these were videos, I've watched them, pretty awful videos, and I think everyone should have to watch them.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, and I watched that interview, the thing that there was a 45-minute compilation video that Israel had that they only showed to journalists first, then they put out publicly eventually with the GoPros and everything.

00:21:33.000 The research team was able, I mean, you know, we're pretty good at this.

00:21:35.000 We was able to kind of find original sources and not just the compilation.

00:21:38.000 And I would say that would have been overblown, but this idea that there were no rapes or absolute just sheer brutality that challenges your definition of human evil.

00:21:47.000 I just, I wouldn't go.

00:21:48.000 That happened.

00:21:49.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:21:50.000 No, I'm not denying it that it happened.

00:21:51.000 I'm saying that it didn't happen the way that they're saying.

00:21:53.000 Like babies in ovens, babies getting beheaded.

00:21:55.000 These were all lies pushed by the Zach organization, which the Zach organization was the organization that was responsible for picking up a lot of the bodies on the day because basically anytime there's a catastrophe in Israel like this, they're some of the first people on the scene to prepare the body for Jewish burial. 0.52

00:22:11.000 Because they have pretty strict burial things.

00:22:11.000 Right.

00:22:14.000 But Yassi Landa, I think is the guy's name.

00:22:16.000 The dude made like $13 million pushing this propaganda.

00:22:19.000 And then when they questioned him, like, hey, you know, we did a little bit more investigating.

00:22:23.000 There's no beheaded babies or babies in ovens or a baby was pulled out of a woman's pregnant stomach.

00:22:28.000 Well, none of this is true.

00:22:29.000 And he's like, yeah, well, I'll use my imagination when we go in there and everything.

00:22:31.000 And there's footage of all this stuff out there.

00:22:33.000 Now, I'm not denying that October 7th was a terrible day and that there weren't atrocities that were committed.

00:22:37.000 Absolutely.

00:22:38.000 Kids killed, whether they were killed in ovens, or anyway.

00:22:41.000 Yeah, and people died on that day.

00:22:43.000 But I do think it's important to know that on that day, the Hannibal Directive was activated.

00:22:48.000 Israel killed a lot of their own people with their helicopter, their Apache helicopters, tank shooting into kibbutz, because they looked at it like, yo, and this is a strategy that they have, the Hannibal Directive. 0.82

00:22:58.000 I know you guys know what it is, but for your audience, they might not be familiar.

00:23:00.000 The Hannibal Directive is a military strategy where if people are being kidnapped, whether civilian or military, they say it's military, but effectively everyone in Israel is a soldier too, because they pretty much have to join the military and serve for two years.

00:23:13.000 Instead of them having to deal with the nightmares of a hostage negotiation, because they know for every Israeli that gets back over there to Gaza, they're going to have to give up 100 Palestinians in one of their prisons. 0.52

00:23:22.000 They would just rather just shoot them and kill them and not have to deal with that diplomatic nightmare later on.

00:23:27.000 So on that day, October 7th, the Hannibal Directive was absolutely activated.

00:23:31.000 And this came confirmed by Yoav Galant, who was this, our equivalent to like a Pete Hexeth, Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense.

00:23:38.000 That was their defense minister at the time.

00:23:40.000 And the other thing that I was doing is that they weren't.

00:23:44.000 Because 1200 were killed on that day.

00:23:45.000 Yeah, is we agree, right, and the hostages, people being killed.

00:23:50.000 Okay.

00:23:51.000 I just didn't like how Israel responds to.

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 And both sides do that, though, by the way.

00:23:54.000 Both sides push out propaganda, of course, right?

00:23:56.000 Look at our starving kids, even though the fact is like they steal water from their own people. 0.97

00:23:59.000 Like this happens all the time.

00:24:01.000 But, okay, what would you be willing to do to get your hostages back at that point?

00:24:08.000 And if we're going to separate between the Israeli government, rightfully so, and the Israeli people, and by the way, the Israeli people are largely secular.

00:24:15.000 So is the government.

00:24:15.000 I think they could shrink the size of government.

00:24:17.000 Like they would be socialists, according to us.

00:24:18.000 So that's also another reason I don't think we should be supporting them.

00:24:22.000 Is we can say the same about the Islamic world in a lot of ways compared to our sort of rugged individualism.

00:24:28.000 Is okay, here we are.

00:24:31.000 What do we do with that?

00:24:33.000 If we're involved, like who are we to tell someone they can't take every measure humanly possible to get those people back?

00:24:39.000 Yeah.

00:24:39.000 So to go back to, because obviously I had to articulate a little bit about October 7th as to why.

00:24:45.000 So what I'm trying to say is that a lot of, because this all leads into, so the deal was put in place on October 10th, roughly.

00:24:51.000 And this comes from Israeli media, by the way.

00:24:53.000 Israel Times have reported this.

00:24:54.000 Basically, a guy who was representing all the families of the hostages was meeting periodically with the Israeli government and cabinet.

00:25:00.000 And Netanyahu said, look, we're going to, he said this in private, of course.

00:25:04.000 We're prioritizing the ratification of Hamas over getting the hostages back. 0.91

00:25:08.000 We're going to go in.

00:25:09.000 We don't care about the deal to get them back because Hamas was going to give them all the hostages back in exchange for them not invading Gaza.

00:25:14.000 They said, no, no deal.

00:25:15.000 They went in and flying the place, et cetera.

00:25:17.000 Now, in the course of doing this, I think they missed step because they didn't think that the casualties were going to be that much.

00:25:23.000 Right now it's somewhere around 60,000.

00:25:25.000 I think once they pull people out the rubble and actually investigate, it's going to be hundreds of thousands.

00:25:29.000 And I don't think that that was a proper response.

00:25:31.000 Now, when it comes, because you said, hey, if you got hostages, what would you do?

00:25:34.000 And I wanted to do that.

00:25:35.000 Just to clarify, too, the Israeli people versus their government.

00:25:37.000 In other words, there are people who are the brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, or whatever those kids.

00:25:42.000 Those people at that point in time, like, okay, fine, let's say that they attacked, let's say they attacked their own people.

00:25:46.000 Let's say false flag, which is, by the way, used all the time to sort of vilify one side.

00:25:50.000 And everyone does it.

00:25:50.000 Everyone has done.

00:25:51.000 I mean, the amount of friendly fire that has taken place in the United States, every single war since Korea, just against the Brits, hundreds of people dead.

00:25:59.000 But those people are going, I need my brother back.

00:26:02.000 And I think to say the act of evil.

00:26:04.000 Well, they could have got it back on the 10th.

00:26:05.000 And that's the same thing.

00:26:07.000 Hold on.

00:26:08.000 There were also ceasefire deals between Russia and Ukraine where it's like, by the way, you're going to give us all of it back.

00:26:11.000 It's like, no, no, you lost.

00:26:13.000 Right.

00:26:13.000 So you can't sit there and negotiate from this position.

00:26:15.000 The same thing for going, well, as long as Hamas, no, fucking give him back or we're going to kill all of you. 0.95

00:26:20.000 And I think the only reason they didn't kill all of them is because of international diplomacy.

00:26:23.000 And by the way, I agree with you that we shouldn't even be in the UN.

00:26:26.000 So Israel's influence there in the UN, like I completely agree with you.

00:26:29.000 We cover them so much at the UN.

00:26:31.000 We've got every single security council we've but I will say when I'm saying October 10th I'm talking about three days after the attack they could have gotten all the hostages back but Netanyahu refused yeah but what was that's being reported though by somebody who said that that's what Netanyahu said right so just to be clear I and I think it's important I don't think it's I don't think it's a stretch to say that Netanyahu saw an opportunity at all I agree with that based on his history based on I I mean, you know his position coming into this.

00:26:59.000 He was in the middle of a corruption trial.

00:27:00.000 He had no transitive.

00:27:02.000 I think he used this.

00:27:03.000 Completely agree.

00:27:03.000 Right.

00:27:04.000 So I think that's reasonable, but to put it out there, like they could have had everything back.

00:27:09.000 They're probably, I don't know about those conversations.

00:27:11.000 I didn't hear any reporting on that at all.

00:27:14.000 It was buried in Western media.

00:27:15.000 That's why.

00:27:16.000 I think now with everything that's come up, I probably would have seen a little bit more about it if there was more to it.

00:27:20.000 So that's considered a question that I would have.

00:27:23.000 Well, the guy in the Ministry of Health was a fucking lot next to it.

00:27:25.000 So this idea that we don't get the Palestinian side or the pro-Palestinian side from Western media, that's horse.

00:27:31.000 I won't go along with you on that at all.

00:27:32.000 That is complete horse.

00:27:33.000 And also, I went to college where I heard nothing but pro-Palestinian activists, including, by the way, secular Jewish activists in college.

00:27:38.000 I went to Canadian college.

00:27:40.000 So we saw plenty of pieces of propaganda coming from the side saying, look at what's happening in Palestine that we invariably found out were also false.

00:27:48.000 So let's just call that a wash.

00:27:49.000 Like, yeah, so like, obviously there's very, you know, anti-Israel sentiment in the media.

00:27:54.000 I'm not making that argument that there isn't.

00:27:57.000 My thing is just that the way they went about October 7th with the capabilities that they have, the intelligence that they have, you know, they could have absolutely went about it in another way to get their Hodges back without the mass loss of human life, which, you know, I think, and it's ostracized.

00:28:10.000 The reason why we're even able to have this conversation now is because Israel up so badly that the international committee now, everyone is familiar with what's going on.

00:28:17.000 Before October 7th, most Americans didn't even know what Zionism was, right?

00:28:21.000 But with this deeper dives, we've had some time, right?

00:28:24.000 Unless you're like a political guy, most Americans had no idea where Israel was on a map, what Zionism was, et cetera, or even being able to have this conversation.

00:28:32.000 But I think the way that they responded after October 7th was egregious and they could have done better.

00:28:38.000 And they could have got the Hodges back with far less bloodshed.

00:28:41.000 Now, some people might say, hey, well, Netanyahu might have had personal reasons, or why should he cave into terrorists and let them attack and just get the Hodges back and not invade?

00:28:48.000 I understand those arguments as well.

00:28:50.000 But I think the way they went about it was, you know, really bad.

00:28:54.000 I will say the way they went about it as far as what was a problem is they didn't give a clear timetable.

00:28:59.000 And I said, if I am someone who, again, not a Netanyahu apologist at all, but if I am in the Israeli government or spokesperson, I go, nothing changes until our hostages come back.

00:29:10.000 They didn't do that.

00:29:11.000 And so people are looking at us going, well, yeah, this loss of life.

00:29:13.000 And a lot of people forgot that there were still hostages, including American hostages.

00:29:16.000 So they were absolutely horrible in their messaging and the optics.

00:29:19.000 But I think a lot of people lose that.

00:29:20.000 And we've had discussions regarding Zionism, Israel, the problem, like I've talked about this going back to 2016.

00:29:26.000 Are they an ally militarily compared to other countries in the region?

00:29:30.000 Sure.

00:29:30.000 But they are not what American conservatives would consider conservative at all in Israel.

00:29:34.000 So people need to know that.

00:29:36.000 That being said, I think it's important that we don't allow Zionism or support, for example, of Israel's right to self-preservation to be defined by people who are new to this party, just going like, it's all a Jewish conspiracy, right? 0.97

00:29:49.000 And then you have people going, and by the way, Hitler was good, which I wanted to give you. 1.00

00:29:52.000 I know you say some things.

00:29:54.000 And by the way, I know you say something sometimes because it's like, okay, you say it and then you clarify it.

00:29:57.000 And usually a clarification is pretty clear.

00:29:59.000 But I know people out there are like, they're going to say, how could you have a guy on there who said Hitler was good?

00:30:02.000 Yeah.

00:30:02.000 All right.

00:30:03.000 Go ahead and explain because I'm going to ask one quick conversation.

00:30:06.000 How about I get to Hitler? 0.92

00:30:07.000 No, no, no, no.

00:30:07.000 We're going to get to Hitler right after this.

00:30:10.000 I think I understand the frustration on both sides of this.

00:30:14.000 Jews are annoying. 1.00

00:30:14.000 No, I mean, oh, yeah, not just that. 1.00

00:30:17.000 I mean, listen, if you've done anything.

00:30:18.000 I'm going to call you an anti-buffer.

00:30:20.000 Yeah, this is going to be clipped all over the anti-Semite.

00:30:23.000 And then people say, Zion Shield, when you're called a Nazi Jewish Nazi get rid of it.

00:30:28.000 I know.

00:30:29.000 Don't worry.

00:30:29.000 Like, I just don't care at this point.

00:30:30.000 Like, I just want truth.

00:30:32.000 And on this case, I've spent a very long time studying a lot of the details of what's going on.

00:30:39.000 And both people have claims.

00:30:41.000 Both sides have grievances that are deeper than anything that I could even possibly imagine before October 7th.

00:30:48.000 Yeah, that's been going on since 1917.

00:30:50.000 It's just insane.

00:30:51.000 And so, you know, I don't typically quote Douglas Murray because I think Dave Smith in a lot of ways made him look foolish on Rogan.

00:31:00.000 But listen, I think here's the problem.

00:31:03.000 Douglas Murray did have a legitimate gripe because as soon as, what was it, Coleman Hughes, I can't remember the guy's name, as soon as he pinned him down, he said, Well, I'm just a comedian talking about this stuff.

00:31:11.000 And that's exactly what Douglas Murray said that Dave Smith would do, right?

00:31:15.000 So when he was, I think he was talking to Coleman Hughes.

00:31:17.000 And so anyway, my question is: Douglas Murray made a really good point.

00:31:21.000 My problem with this is that it's been stretched on for two years and there's this long kind of loss of life.

00:31:25.000 I hate war.

00:31:26.000 I hate it.

00:31:27.000 That's why you don't start them, right?

00:31:28.000 You don't get to start a war and then complain about losing it.

00:31:32.000 Do you think one of the problems that we've had is that we have kept Israel at bay when if they had been able to go in, finish a war quickly, like we've talked about, if the United States ever goes to war, you go in, you wreck shop, and you're done. 0.74

00:31:46.000 It's better for everybody involved to be done, not 10-year wars, nothing like that.

00:31:50.000 Do you think there's anything to like solving this conflict if, and here's the big if, if the people on both sides can't really get it right and have never proven they will?

00:32:00.000 Because I don't think the Palestinians, the river to the sea, is one of those things you got to deal with. 1.00

00:32:04.000 It's not that they just want a two-state solution.

00:32:06.000 They want all of their land back.

00:32:07.000 Will it ever really work out?

00:32:09.000 And if we're saying that Israel's never really going to leave these guys to any kind of self-determination, is that like an unstoppable object meeting and immovable force and we just need to let it play out instead of prolonging it? 0.51

00:32:20.000 And it's heartless to say Palestinians are movable just to throw it out.

00:32:23.000 No, no, no.

00:32:24.000 As far as ideology goes, Hamas has agreed to get a little more to drink.

00:32:29.000 Go ahead.

00:32:30.000 Yes, I have the problem with that.

00:32:31.000 And now to Hitler. 0.85

00:32:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:34.000 No, I think I do think that, you know, they have come to agreements where I think they would get like 20% of the 1967 borders and everything.

00:32:42.000 You know, and here's the thing: both parties have their issues with, you know, exercising some level of diplomacy.

00:32:48.000 I just think that us supporting the Israelis and the things that they do, where, you know, they've killed far more. 1.00

00:32:55.000 It can't be blanket support.

00:32:56.000 I would agree with you.

00:32:57.000 Like, if they nuked, you know, Paris right now, am I commanded as a Christian to support that?

00:33:02.000 Of course not.

00:33:03.000 Like, why would I do that?

00:33:04.000 Yeah, I've killed a lot of Christians as well. 0.99

00:33:06.000 You know, there's a good amount of Palestinian Christians that have been killed and churches bombed in Gaza.

00:33:10.000 But, you know, it's a tough situation.

00:33:12.000 These guys have been fighting each other for you can argue since 1917 or maybe even before that when the first Civil Wars came in in the late 1800s.

00:33:19.000 It's a complex problem.

00:33:20.000 And I think we need to get in there.

00:33:23.000 And if we are going to get in there and intervene the way that we've been doing, we can't just be funding one side.

00:33:28.000 If we want actual peace in the Middle East, there needs to be some type of strategy to give the Palestinians right to self-determination, whether it's a one-state or a two-state solution.

00:33:37.000 That's the only way.

00:33:38.000 And we need real barriers on what Israel can do because, you know, if we can. 0.97

00:33:43.000 It sounds like interventionism.

00:33:45.000 Well, if we're going to go ahead and I think honestly.

00:33:47.000 Would you at least agree to that?

00:33:48.000 Like you are suggesting some kind of interventionism because who's going to put Barry is yeah.

00:33:53.000 So I'm suggesting none whatsoever.

00:33:54.000 Yes.

00:33:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:55.000 And I think the uncomfortable truth is if there is no interventionism, I think everybody knows Force Fox 9 is an after.

00:34:02.000 It's in the annals of history.

00:34:03.000 It's no longer a thing.

00:34:04.000 So I think one of two things can happen.

00:34:06.000 And I like that you bring up that other thing.

00:34:08.000 One of two things is going to happen.

00:34:09.000 It's either A, the Arab world is going to descend on Israel and destroy them, right? 1.00

00:34:14.000 Missiles are going to rain down on them, or B, which obviously is very probable because Israel is a nuclear superpower, they're going to take everybody with them. 0.97

00:34:22.000 So either way, there's going to be a lot of bloodshed if we were to stop giving aid all the way.

00:34:27.000 But isn't that sort of, doesn't that sort of make the point of people who would be on the more pro-Israeli side?

00:34:32.000 Because you just sort of presented A or B.

00:34:33.000 And I agree.

00:34:34.000 One of the two, yeah.

00:34:35.000 A is, okay, they descend upon Israel. 0.98

00:34:37.000 It's unholy hellfire, right?

00:34:39.000 Les Grossman.

00:34:41.000 Or B, they take everyone with them.

00:34:44.000 I notice you didn't say C, which is if Israel takes Palestine, it's now one state, that Israel does that and rains hellfire on everyone in the region they could. 0.79

00:34:53.000 That wasn't even an option in your head.

00:34:55.000 Why do you think that is?

00:34:57.000 Because if Israel just got rid of the threat there, in other words, like it would be terrible. 0.94

00:35:01.000 Let's say they level it.

00:35:03.000 They're not going to Egypt.

00:35:04.000 Oh, no, but what I'm saying is like if they level either they destroy Israel or Israel defends itself and takes them all with them. 0.86

00:35:11.000 No one even thinks it's a possibility.

00:35:13.000 If Israel, let's say one state solution, Palestine is now Israel. 0.94

00:35:16.000 You live under our rule.

00:35:18.000 No one is actually concerned that they would then encroach on any other countries.

00:35:23.000 And you yourself are.

00:35:24.000 Oh, no, I think that, no, Israel would absolutely expand. 0.50

00:35:27.000 Yeah, the Greater Israel Project is very real.

00:35:29.000 Like they're definitely trying to expand territory.

00:35:31.000 I mean, this is why they still have to this day, they're controlling the Golan Heights.

00:35:35.000 You know, they obviously would want to take southern Lebanon as well.

00:35:37.000 They go into there periodically.

00:35:39.000 I think Israel's, you know, definitely wants to expand.

00:35:42.000 And the Gaza, I think that there's a whole plan there where they want, I think I predict because they've already seen they've shown like the pictures of this and the projects.

00:35:49.000 They're going to turn that into like international city, kind of like a Dubai or a UAE, where they're going to put casinos and resorts and all this other stuff there.

00:35:57.000 Because I think what Dubai has done is it's created a model where, oh, people could come to the Middle East for tourism.

00:36:01.000 This is why Saudi Arabia started economic prosperity starts changing.

00:36:05.000 Allowing alcohol, letting women drive, bringing WWE and stuff like that now. 0.99

00:36:10.000 They're trying to become an entertainment hub.

00:36:12.000 UFC had its own fight island.

00:36:13.000 Yes.

00:36:14.000 So that's what's going on in the Middle East where they're trying to modernize and not rely so much on oil revenue versus they want to bring tourism revenue.

00:36:19.000 So I predict that Gaza is going to probably be there. 1.00

00:36:21.000 It's a beautiful beachfront property.

00:36:23.000 And I think that the goal here is to get those Palestinians out of there. 1.00

00:36:26.000 And I predict in the next, maybe not now, but in the next 10, 20, 30 years, they're going to rebuild that thing and make it a tourist thing, which I think that's another incentive for the Israelis to take over and expand. 0.89

00:36:37.000 But yeah, full stop, though.

00:36:39.000 I think I look at it like this.

00:36:41.000 We shouldn't be giving aid to Israel.

00:36:42.000 I think them doing the things that they do with our tax dollars is egregious.

00:36:47.000 We've all seen it.

00:36:48.000 And I know you guys are Christians and you guys obviously don't like seeing being blown up and bombing.

00:36:52.000 Kids are kids, man.

00:36:53.000 It doesn't matter what border they happen to fall behind.

00:36:56.000 And I think that's what's moved all of us to like, you know what, maybe we're not so supportive of us giving money to these guys after we've seen what our tax dollars lead to.

00:37:03.000 And at some point, I just think we need to find some kind of middle ground where the Palestinians and the Israelis can come together and have some level of peace.

00:37:10.000 But until we solve this Palestine question, man, there's just never going to be peace in the Middle East. 0.94

00:37:14.000 And I truly do think that.

00:37:15.000 I don't think there's ever going to be peace in the Middle East. 0.99

00:37:16.000 I'm a pessimist too, unfortunately.

00:37:18.000 I wish that there was that solution.

00:37:20.000 I just don't think that the Middle East has a lot of people.

00:37:24.000 I just go to completely not just Palestine.

00:37:27.000 No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah.

00:37:28.000 Not just that.

00:37:28.000 But I do think that's step one towards fixing the situation, especially for the Israelis, where they will finally be accepted by these Arab countries.

00:37:36.000 My issue is people go, you're America first.

00:37:38.000 And I go, yeah, yeah, no, I think we should just not intervene at all, pull all of our money.

00:37:40.000 And they go, yeah, but there needs to be some guardrails.

00:37:43.000 That sounds like interventionism.

00:37:44.000 That's the thing where people go, you're not America.

00:37:46.000 I am the most America first by saying no money to any of it.

00:37:49.000 We should be out of the UN.

00:37:51.000 And by the way, we're not even in NATO until everyone meets their back pay plus interest.

00:37:55.000 That's my position.

00:37:56.000 I agree.

00:37:56.000 I don't even think we should be in NATO either.

00:37:57.000 I think NATO is the biggest scam ever.

00:37:59.000 How many pussies can you fit in a room? 1.00

00:38:00.000 Dude, it's literally...

00:38:02.000 Yeah.

00:38:03.000 NATO, the Middle East.

00:38:06.000 I'm a firm believer with you where I think interventionism is a huge problem.

00:38:09.000 I think this is one of the things actually that libertarians get 100% right where we just need to start.

00:38:15.000 Let's give them nice. 0.88

00:38:15.000 I disagree with all the people through the libertarian benefits of intervening. 0.88

00:38:20.000 Libertarianism.

00:38:20.000 They're going to be like, see?

00:38:22.000 You know, everything else is stupid.

00:38:23.000 Like, the women's rights, LOL. 1.00

00:38:26.000 You know what?

00:38:26.000 It'll turn those Palestinians to our side.

00:38:28.000 Legalizing black tar heroin.

00:38:30.000 Son of a gun.

00:38:31.000 But that's the one thing I would say they have right is like this interventionist foreign policy that we've been practicing since the Bush.

00:38:36.000 Well, we've been practicing it forever, but it really took a push during the Bush era.

00:38:40.000 And having all, you know, being involved in the Middle East.

00:38:42.000 I think China is one of the biggest threats that we really need to focus on.

00:38:44.000 We need to be focusing on them explicitly, at least at Bush Senior War.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:48.000 You go to Kosovo and everything.

00:38:49.000 It's been since forever, but I would say we really started getting hard after the war on terror.

00:38:53.000 The Bush administration really locked us in there in the Middle East for, you know, and we're still there to this day.

00:38:58.000 And it's never worked.

00:38:59.000 No, it hasn't.

00:38:59.000 It's never worked.

00:39:00.000 And it's taken us away from what I think is a big problem, which is what's going on in China, the new superpower that's rising. 0.90

00:39:06.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:39:06.000 We need to keep our powder dry for because that would be a war that would be necessary if they decide they want to start popping off.

00:39:12.000 Well, they already want it.

00:39:14.000 And that's economic warfare.

00:39:16.000 But let's make sure we hit Hitler. 0.99

00:39:17.000 Yes.

00:39:18.000 Because I know.

00:39:18.000 We don't really have all that much time.

00:39:19.000 All right.

00:39:20.000 You said what?

00:39:20.000 Hitler's.

00:39:21.000 I don't know.

00:39:22.000 I don't want to be something about Hitler being a just go Which one? 0.93

00:39:25.000 Okay, yeah.

00:39:26.000 So might the fuck with Hitler. 0.58

00:39:29.000 I don't know how to follow.

00:39:30.000 It's one of the comedians.

00:39:31.000 I'm trying to give you a clean slate to just sort of, because there's no way that this is not going to result.

00:39:36.000 Okay, no.

00:39:37.000 Oh, geez.

00:39:38.000 Well, I don't know if you did.

00:39:39.000 I wouldn't be super happy with you either.

00:39:41.000 Yes, I'm a nuts.

00:39:42.000 I'm just kidding.

00:39:43.000 So my thing is this, right?

00:39:45.000 So we all know that the past four years we've had to deal with insane levels of censorship, whether it be from YouTube or Twitch or these other bullshit platforms.

00:39:53.000 You know, we've all been targeted.

00:39:54.000 You guys have been targeted.

00:39:55.000 I've been targeted.

00:39:55.000 Everyone on the right wing to some degree has been targeted with the last super pro censorship era that we came from with the Biden administration.

00:40:01.000 So when I talk about, you know, Hitler is one of the most misunderstood individuals in history or, you know, was everything true that they told us about World War II?

00:40:09.000 What I'm really talking about is it's a middle finger to censorship.

00:40:13.000 So when I throw up a Roman salute, it's not about saying, oh, yeah, let's gass all the Jews and kill all the Jews. 0.99

00:40:17.000 No, it's a middle finger to censorship.

00:40:19.000 And the biggest way to give that middle censorship is to attack the things that they've been censoring the hardest, right?

00:40:25.000 Right.

00:40:26.000 You guys are not going to control our discourse.

00:40:27.000 You guys are not going to control our conversations.

00:40:29.000 This is the United States of America.

00:40:31.000 freedom of speech is important and for us to continue to be able to have freedom of speech we need trailblazers that are willing to be really because if you if you lose if you don't use it We don't need guilers. 0.99

00:40:39.000 But I was doing YouTube Hitler in 2015.

00:40:41.000 That was one of the moments.

00:40:43.000 Instead of the Swastika, I had the YouTube logo.

00:40:45.000 Of course.

00:40:45.000 Oh, the YouTube logo?

00:40:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:47.000 YouTube and the Juden.

00:40:48.000 Oh, it's hilarious.

00:40:49.000 We have happy Hitler on the show. 1.00

00:40:50.000 Hitler's funny. 1.00

00:40:52.000 Also, going back to feminism, he lasted one day with that. 0.60

00:40:54.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:40:55.000 And he was like, I got to end this.

00:40:56.000 He's like this.

00:40:57.000 He does.

00:40:58.000 I could take a million units, but I can't take this bitch. 1.00

00:41:01.000 Yeah, she's the word.

00:41:02.000 I'm done.

00:41:03.000 999.

00:41:04.000 Avery Bron was Jewish.

00:41:07.000 Just kidding.

00:41:07.000 I need some meme.

00:41:09.000 He found out who's part Jewish and he just ended it. 1.00

00:41:11.000 I was like, damn, this is a real nigga, man. 1.00

00:41:13.000 He really has.

00:41:15.000 Wait till the Palestinians find out that they're more Jewish than Arabs. 1.00

00:41:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:18.000 They're the real Semites. 1.00

00:41:20.000 But no, so all jokes aside.

00:41:21.000 So yeah, so my thing is like pushing back on the censorship regime that we've had to deal with the past several years.

00:41:28.000 And obviously, you know, a little bit is like, you know, poking fun at shit like that, right?

00:41:31.000 Because obviously this topic is what got me demonetized on YouTube.

00:41:34.000 So for me, it's like more of like a fuck you to the censorship regime.

00:41:37.000 Yeah.

00:41:38.000 And I do think that, you know, no topic should be off limits.

00:41:42.000 And for some odd reason, that, you know, we weren't able to hear his speeches, weren't able to hear him talk, et cetera.

00:41:46.000 And people don't even know, right, that after World War I, right, you guys know this, but a lot of people.

00:41:52.000 Treaty of Versailles and how they were embarrassed.

00:41:54.000 Germany was like in a really bad spot.

00:41:56.000 The Treaty of Versailles is an example of what not to do as far as international diplomacy.

00:42:00.000 You back someone up into a corner.

00:42:01.000 Absolutely.

00:42:02.000 But I would say then you create a Hitler, which I would say is bad. 0.84

00:42:04.000 So two things.

00:42:05.000 So Germany was the economy was doing a lot better because of the Roaring 20s, just like everywhere else in the world.

00:42:12.000 But after the entire world economy crashed, everybody started doing poorly.

00:42:16.000 And Germany didn't have much of a leg to stand on. 0.70

00:42:19.000 More so than America and the other things.

00:42:21.000 Because Hitler came in 1933, if I'm not mistaken, when he came into power. 0.87

00:42:26.000 He came in in the unrest.

00:42:27.000 So it wasn't the 20s.

00:42:28.000 It wasn't the Treaty of Versailles as explicitly like everybody points to.

00:42:32.000 Everybody was actually doing okay in the Roaring 20s.

00:42:35.000 They weren't doing as well as the United States and developed countries, but it wasn't that.

00:42:38.000 It was once the Great Depression started in the United States, dragged down the world economy.

00:42:42.000 Then Hitler comes up because of the economic issues. 0.76

00:42:45.000 Yeah, there was a bunch of different issues.

00:42:47.000 But my thing is that, like, right, so number one, this guy's like the most censored dude in history.

00:42:51.000 And like, no one ever talks about how, like, you know, there was a period of time where he literally took Germany from like the worst to obviously one of the strongest economies in the world, right?

00:42:59.000 Through because everyone says Nazi, you know, which was really the National Socialist Party.

00:43:04.000 He instituted a bunch of things to help the country with, you know, regaining its prominence.

00:43:08.000 And no one ever talks about that.

00:43:10.000 And I think that that's a problem where we demonize people so much or censor the topic so much where we can't even have real discourse or conversations on other things that might have occurred during that period of time.

00:43:19.000 So me saying the things that I say about Hitler, it's more of a middle finger to the censorship regime that we've had to deal with versus being like, oh, yeah, I love Hitler. 0.94

00:43:27.000 It's more about we need to be able to discuss anything, even if it is Hitler.

00:43:30.000 No, I think discussions are necessary, but I think you and I both see a difference between being able to say, f it, you know, love it.

00:43:36.000 That's my favorite word, right?

00:43:37.000 One of the best words of all.

00:43:38.000 So listen, and doing a Sieg Heil saying maybe the Austrian painter was right, right?

00:43:42.000 There's a different connotation.

00:43:43.000 And I understand the pushback on censorship because we've been in that same boat, so I get it.

00:43:48.000 But there's a huge difference between saying a word and ascribing kind of virtuousness to probable.

00:43:54.000 And you shouldn't be censorship.

00:43:56.000 No, you shouldn't.

00:43:57.000 But another thing is that.

00:43:58.000 It's part of being anti-censorship is a disagreement of like, no, no, no.

00:44:01.000 No, and that's great.

00:44:02.000 And they did bad things.

00:44:03.000 Of course.

00:44:03.000 And I think every world leader does, by the way, does horrible things, right?

00:44:06.000 That might be.

00:44:07.000 Yeah, there are levels of shit.

00:44:08.000 But him and Stalin and Mao seem to occupy some rarefied air with Pol Pot as well. 0.82

00:44:12.000 Like those guys are in different places as far as how probable they were.

00:44:16.000 Hopedok, he just didn't have as many people.

00:44:18.000 You know, what I would say with that, right?

00:44:21.000 So we were talking about bad.

00:44:27.000 No, no, no.

00:44:27.000 It was before that.

00:44:28.000 It was before that.

00:44:29.000 The Treaty of Versailles.

00:44:30.000 I brought them back.

00:44:31.000 The censorship stuff.

00:44:33.000 Those are going to suck.

00:44:33.000 JuTube.

00:44:35.000 Oh, Hitler was right. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Okay.

00:44:36.000 So you were saying.

00:44:37.000 Yeah.

00:44:39.000 Yes. It was.

00:44:40.000 Okay.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:41.000 So what we were talking about before where Hitler was right. 0.92

00:44:43.000 So like when I, because I had a clip that went viral on this, and I said Hitler was right about y'all and then XYZ right. 0.98

00:44:48.000 No one ever knows what I meant, though, when I said that.

00:44:50.000 Right.

00:44:50.000 So when I said Hitler was right, what I meant was where Jews control media, finances, and certain institutions in countries and they have overrepresentation in certain types of institutions to their benefit.

00:45:05.000 So that's what I was talking about when I said Hitler was right about y'all, about that. 1.00

00:45:08.000 Now, obviously, people are going to clip that and be like, look, see, he said it was right about everything.

00:45:12.000 This guy's a genocidal maniac.

00:45:13.000 No, but what I was saying is that in his book, if you read Mein Koff or whatever, Henry Ford actually was the first one to bring these ideas.

00:45:19.000 Henry Ford sent private letters to Hitler and he was an actual anti-Semitic.

00:45:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:26.000 The International Jew, right? 0.96

00:45:28.000 Great book.

00:45:29.000 So in that book, he talks about some light summary.

00:45:32.000 World Jewry. 0.53

00:45:33.000 World Jewry, how it's a global cabal that they are basically helping each other to further Jewish interests. 0.95

00:45:40.000 And actually, let me be clear about this.

00:45:41.000 I don't think that there's a problem with that.

00:45:42.000 I actually think Americans need to have the same level of nationalism.

00:45:46.000 They did it for a reason in the context of the time.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, because they've been the most persecuted.

00:45:50.000 They had no power.

00:45:51.000 Yeah, they needed power.

00:45:53.000 Been persecuted, etc.

00:45:54.000 So they worked together.

00:45:54.000 And I think that's something that we can actually take a page from them is that unity.

00:45:59.000 Because they're hardcore nationalists when it comes to that degree of protecting each other.

00:46:04.000 But that's what I meant when I said Hill was right about them.

00:46:07.000 I meant as in using wood jury, controlling certain institutions for their benefit, using certain things to their benefit, and self-preserving.

00:46:16.000 That's what I meant when I said that.

00:46:18.000 Now, obviously, most people are not going to give me the chance to explain that.

00:46:20.000 What I meant by that.

00:46:21.000 No, no, I get that.

00:46:22.000 We see it now, even in America.

00:46:23.000 If we look at the American politics, whether it's AIPAC and not having to register under FARA, them being able to get away with certain false flags or being involved in situations they should have been involved in, stealing our nuclear technology, not being held accountable.

00:46:37.000 These are all things I meant when I said that Hitler was right about them, where they subvert their host nation to their benefit. 1.00

00:46:43.000 But maybe he was wrong in his obsession and hyper-focus, because you mentioned APAC.

00:46:47.000 They don't even crack like the top 150 as far as PAC organizations.

00:46:50.000 And I know here's the one thing that does happen with people.

00:46:52.000 And I think you would disagree with these people too, who go, ACT Blue gives, whatever it is, 10, five times APAC.

00:46:57.000 You go, there's a Jew in Act Blue. 0.95

00:46:59.000 So that's also Jewish.

00:47:00.000 You go, okay, what about the National Realtors Association?

00:47:02.000 There's a Jew in there.

00:47:03.000 So it's also Jewish.

00:47:04.000 What about we go through the SEIU?

00:47:05.000 There's a Jew in there.

00:47:06.000 It's not the same.

00:47:06.000 Right.

00:47:07.000 And you would at least have to allow, everyone would have to laugh at the fact that there are secular Jews and practicing. 0.97

00:47:11.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:47:12.000 So APAC isn't even close.

00:47:13.000 And as far as foreign interests, they are secular.

00:47:17.000 China are secular.

00:47:18.000 Qatar, right?

00:47:19.000 It's not even close.

00:47:20.000 And I have a problem with all of it.

00:47:22.000 The issue that I have, and by the way, we've had this exact conversation where I've said, we do need to find out how Hitler comes to be, whether you agree with him or not. 0.66

00:47:28.000 We need to be able to have the conversation to find out he comes to be so we can determine if we need to prevent that or if we support it in the future.

00:47:35.000 Of course, I'm anti, just to be clear.

00:47:38.000 But then the problem I have is with the lies.

00:47:40.000 When people go, and Hitler was a Christian. 0.99

00:47:42.000 He had deep reviling for Christians.

00:47:42.000 No, he wasn't.

00:47:43.000 When people go, and Hitler, by the way, was just banning books because of the transgender things. 0.99

00:47:47.000 He also banned all of Mark Twain and Hemingway, for God's sakes.

00:47:50.000 So people then throw in a bunch of lies and go like, well, he was just banning my two daddies blow each other in a truck stall.

00:47:57.000 Well, I guess I support it.

00:47:57.000 It's like, yeah.

00:47:58.000 He also banned Hemingway and all of Mark Twain.

00:48:01.000 Like there were plenty of books that had nothing to do with modern secular, whatever you want to call Western Judaism, secularism.

00:48:08.000 And so then the issue becomes people have this defined now by a lie.

00:48:11.000 Where they go, well, Hitler was a Christian and he banned the books because the Jews were pushing LGBTQ. 0.98

00:48:16.000 It's nonsense.

00:48:17.000 It's bullshit.

00:48:18.000 If you want to say they were browbeaten on the international stage over Treaty of Versailles, and it's a perfect example of how not to act in international diplomacy.

00:48:27.000 Completely agree.

00:48:28.000 The issue is now people who are new to the party, they get it defined.

00:48:31.000 And then you have people going, and by the way, the ghost of Aver Braun killed Charlie Kirk.

00:48:35.000 Whatever the f ⁇ is.

00:48:36.000 And it's just like, and then you mentioned conspiratories, rightfully so.

00:48:39.000 There are some conspiracies that are legitimate.

00:48:43.000 We allowed people in South America to be infected with gonery.

00:48:45.000 Hillary Clinton apologized for it just to see how it would spread.

00:48:49.000 That happened.

00:48:50.000 But then when people go, all right, and they add on to it like the lie.

00:48:53.000 Like here's a good example.

00:48:54.000 I always go to this.

00:48:55.000 George Floyd.

00:48:57.000 I'll say this.

00:48:58.000 Piece of shit.

00:48:59.000 Shouldn't have been out there in public, was arrested nine times.

00:49:02.000 But anyone who believes that he held a pregnant woman at gunpoint is believing a lie.

00:49:07.000 He held a woman at gunpoint while her toddler was in the house.

00:49:10.000 We covered that accurately.

00:49:12.000 That truth doesn't spread as quickly as the lie.

00:49:14.000 And people go, why are you doing the bidding of Black Lives Matter?

00:49:16.000 No, I'm telling you the truth.

00:49:18.000 I think it's bad enough that he robbed the woman at gunpoint with her kid there.

00:49:23.000 But then you have someone like Candace Owens go out and go, a pregnant woman pistol whipped. 1.00

00:49:27.000 That's not true.

00:49:28.000 And so then you have people go out, and you know what happens when you go and have an argument with the left?

00:49:31.000 It's a very few people who've had these conversations in public and put their life in the line.

00:49:35.000 You say, hey, George Floyd robbed a pregnant woman.

00:49:39.000 They go, fake news, and we're dismissed forever and we lose all momentum.

00:49:42.000 If you say, hey, Hitler was a Christian, they go, idiot.

00:49:45.000 You go, hey, Hitler only banned.

00:49:46.000 They go, f ⁇ ing what? 0.67

00:49:47.000 He doesn't even know about Hemingway or Mark Twain.

00:49:49.000 That's why I'm very concerned about fake news on both the left and the right.

00:49:53.000 That's your perspective.

00:49:54.000 Regardless of opinion.

00:49:57.000 This comes back to what I said before, where we have to be very precise.

00:49:59.000 So like what you were talking about, right?

00:50:01.000 And adding more context to it, that is very important because, for example, people look at it in the book burnings, because this all came from Jews coming out saying, look, he burned all our Torahs.

00:50:10.000 Oh, Eve, he hated us.

00:50:12.000 But the reality is during those book burnings, the famous pictures, a lot of that was, you know, from the Sex Institute from Magnus Hirschfeld on Transformation.

00:50:18.000 Yeah, but now do Hussain.

00:50:20.000 Yeah.

00:50:21.000 They don't expand, right?

00:50:22.000 And that comes from.

00:50:23.000 And that was most of it.

00:50:25.000 That comes from them seeing the book burnings and being told one thing, and then them just distrusting everything.

00:50:30.000 And that's kind of what sucks where when something is suppressed for so long, we can't have these conversations.

00:50:34.000 But then, like, what ends up happening is like the conspirators will have leverage because they're like, see, this has been suppressed forever.

00:50:39.000 So now I can go ahead and put in these other things that might not necessarily be true because they lied to you about this.

00:50:44.000 So, look, they're lying to you about this as well, not knowing that that person's lying about that little fact.

00:50:48.000 Especially post-COVID, because people trust nothing.

00:50:50.000 Yes.

00:50:50.000 And people are monetizing on that because people trust nothing.

00:50:53.000 Yeah.

00:50:54.000 And, you know, conspirators are able to kind of come in and have these disingenuous conversations and add in more to the stuff.

00:50:59.000 So, like, before they lie, you know, a lot of pro-Jewish groups, Holocaust groups.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, look, he was burning the Torahs and, you know, our religious text and this thing.

00:51:06.000 But in reality, a lot of that stuff was sexist who stuff.

00:51:09.000 But then we don't talk about the Mark Twain and stuff like that that he burned as well.

00:51:12.000 He wanted to burn anything that wasn't pro-Hitler.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 He wanted to burn anything.

00:51:14.000 He wanted to burn anything that was anti-socialist as well.

00:51:17.000 He wanted to burn anything.

00:51:18.000 People say he hated.

00:51:19.000 No, he was a fing so communists and socialists are relatives who are having a family spat.

00:51:23.000 Let's be honest about it.

00:51:25.000 And I just, yeah.

00:51:27.000 And having been here, I will say the first, you know, on YouTube, the first conservative on YouTube.

00:51:32.000 You can go back to 2006, 2008 with a blue bed sheet.

00:51:35.000 There was no money in it.

00:51:37.000 I have no dog in that fight.

00:51:38.000 I lost my manager, my agents, like, because I was willing to pursue truth.

00:51:42.000 And I do think that it's this conversation is very important.

00:51:44.000 And I think that you're being, by the way, just to be clear, very genuine.

00:51:47.000 I think you articulated it well.

00:51:48.000 The problem is you will get shit for what you've said.

00:51:50.000 And I will get shit because now there's this environment of people going, if you don't agree, they go, you're, man, it's two sides of team sports.

00:51:57.000 That's bullshit.

00:51:58.000 By the way, if you don't agree with everything, you're now a Zionist, Myron. 0.75

00:52:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:02.000 It's ridiculous.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, there's not nuance or people aren't able to understand hyperbole to a degree.

00:52:07.000 But I think I'm willing to offend some people so that others can say stuff that's less extreme than me.

00:52:15.000 Right.

00:52:15.000 So like if I'm able to go ahead and throw Roman salute and everything, oh my God, that's so crazy.

00:52:19.000 But now you can say that there's two genders. 1.00

00:52:20.000 Right.

00:52:21.000 Because that is not as agreeable.

00:52:22.000 A little bit different, but I understand.

00:52:24.000 I understand where you're coming from.

00:52:26.000 Because don't forget.

00:52:26.000 Having a conversation is different than throwing like a Roman salute or saying Hitler was right.

00:52:31.000 I get it.

00:52:31.000 It's fine if he doesn't and it's a joke.

00:52:33.000 I don't have any problem with it.

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:34.000 I really don't.

00:52:34.000 But like two or three years ago, keep in mind where we were.

00:52:36.000 You couldn't even say that there were Judaism.

00:52:38.000 We couldn't even talk about COVID being a scam.

00:52:40.000 Now we can, right?

00:52:41.000 But what did we say to get around that, though?

00:52:44.000 We said.

00:52:44.000 We shared enough truth.

00:52:46.000 We just said there are two genders. 1.00

00:52:48.000 There are only two genders. 0.99

00:52:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:49.000 You know, like we didn't have to go to some of the extremes.

00:52:51.000 I think on the conversations, we went so far so fast, it's really hard to talk about the nationalism that Hitler had as his policy.

00:53:00.000 Yeah.

00:53:00.000 Because people went straight to he killed JFK.

00:53:04.000 They, you know, they killed JFK.

00:53:06.000 They do all these things.

00:53:06.000 You get to the conspiracy end of everything, and Hitler was right about the Jews and they had too much power.

00:53:10.000 You get all the way to the end of it, and it's like, well, I can't talk about any of it now because now I'm dealing with swatting that crap down.

00:53:16.000 Yeah.

00:53:16.000 Because that's all people are looking at.

00:53:18.000 That comes inevitably with free speech, right?

00:53:20.000 Is because now that we have more free speech than we did before, now you got to also kind of swat the weirdos.

00:53:25.000 Yeah, hopefully we'll reel it back because there is a conversation to.

00:53:28.000 Except I will say this.

00:53:28.000 This is my opinion.

00:53:29.000 You only get it from two groups.

00:53:31.000 You get it from the left, right?

00:53:32.000 They celebrate the death of Charlie Trigger.

00:53:34.000 I think we all agree on that.

00:53:35.000 There's a culture of violence.

00:53:36.000 And you get it from the group of people if you don't follow lockstep with them on Israel and Hitler. 0.60

00:53:36.000 Absolutely nuts. 0.60

00:53:40.000 Those are the only two groups I've experienced with it.

00:53:42.000 Okay.

00:53:42.000 Well, and with the people who are in the world, pro-violence and pro-violence, with the pro-violence, you mean?

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:47.000 I mean, you risk being swatted.

00:53:49.000 You risk security of your family from the left always.

00:53:52.000 So that's why it's such a problem, whether it's gender, whether it's abortion, whether it's marginal tax rates.

00:53:56.000 We're all Nazis just for even discussing this right now.

00:53:59.000 But on the right, it's only if you go, hey, and by the way, I still think Hitler was bad. 0.98

00:54:04.000 There's only one group on the right where it becomes a security risk.

00:54:07.000 That's been my experience.

00:54:08.000 And I say this as someone who is on an international kill list, not just the ISIS kill list, the frequent flyer list, the natural fatwa.

00:54:15.000 So like, I've got ISIS.

00:54:17.000 I've got obviously leftists.

00:54:18.000 Iron are here for a reason.

00:54:20.000 Or to defund all of it isn't enough because I must be filleting Netanyahu in a back room.

00:54:25.000 It's like he couldn't be less happy with someone like me saying, of course you should be tried.

00:54:31.000 And of course we shouldn't be giving you any money.

00:54:34.000 That's the, that's the, and when you understand too that the left has used it as a wedge issue.

00:54:38.000 They have a vested interest and you have obviously worked in intelligence.

00:54:41.000 They're very effective with it.

00:54:42.000 If you could fracture the right and erase all the wins, it would be create a faction of people who call both Myron, Stephen Crowder, Gerald, Nick Frontis, whoever, Zionist shills, no matter what they say. 0.55

00:54:54.000 It would be a very effective way to fracture the right.

00:54:56.000 Yeah, no, and then we're already seeing kind of it happen sometimes right now because now we're in and, you know, obviously, and I'll tell you this, if a Democrat ever gets in, I truly do think we're all cooked.

00:55:04.000 Like, they're going to, they're going to absolutely.

00:55:06.000 Blood brothers, all right?

00:55:07.000 Let's see.

00:55:08.000 Trump's like, you know, Comey, Bolton, Letitia James, you know, probably Shift Next.

00:55:14.000 Like, I think if they ever get back into power, the lawfare is going to be wage times 10 because they started this war.

00:55:20.000 Oh, yeah, I agree.

00:55:21.000 Against Trump.

00:55:22.000 And, I mean, they're crazy to think he wasn't going to come back.

00:55:24.000 You guys are over here committing mortgage fraud and doing crimes as well, acting as if you're not going to get persecuted now that he's back in power.

00:55:30.000 Because they were doing all this shit while committing crimes, which is crazy to me.

00:55:33.000 But that's a whole other question.

00:55:34.000 A lot of crimes.

00:55:35.000 Lots of them.

00:55:35.000 Like, not just a little, not a few.

00:55:37.000 Like, all the time.

00:55:38.000 They were doing all the, isn't that ironic how Letitia went after him for like real estate fraud? 1.00

00:55:42.000 And then she was doing it too. 0.80

00:55:44.000 Isn't that f ⁇ ing wild?

00:55:45.000 Yeah, I think they didn't take her case, though.

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:48.000 So come on.

00:55:49.000 But yeah, but to put up on the Titler thing.

00:55:52.000 You said Titler.

00:55:53.000 I'm sorry, Hitler thing. 0.83

00:55:54.000 My bad.

00:55:55.000 I'm thinking about women.

00:55:56.000 That's what I call my lady. 1.00

00:55:57.000 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 You want to be my titler?

00:56:00.000 Yes, give me your tits. 1.00

00:56:02.000 But yeah, no.

00:56:03.000 So to me, I think, you know, being able to have difficult discussions, being able to, you know, question everything is something that we need to do.

00:56:08.000 We need to push the edges.

00:56:10.000 So, you know, that's why it's more of a middle finger to the censorship regime.

00:56:14.000 And I do think that he is misunderstood and a lot of people don't understand a lot of the things.

00:56:17.000 And I do think that he was accurate about a lot of things, especially when it comes to Jewish power, how Jews run things, et cetera.

00:56:21.000 Because we're even seeing it now kind of, you know, in American society where we have this ridiculous lobbying power from Zionist Jews in America where they're able to kind of get a lot of the things that they want that other countries or other people might not be able to do, right? 0.92

00:56:34.000 Like the anti-Semitism laws that they passed and everything else like that.

00:56:36.000 I don't think any other group of people would have that level of influence to be able to get that done.

00:56:40.000 So that's where I come from when I have that perspective, when I say the things that I say.

00:56:45.000 And I think that we should be able to have discussions, even on some of the most taboo topics like we've been able to do now.

00:56:49.000 The crazy part is like if we had this conversation on YouTube, it would get banned.

00:56:52.000 And I think that's a problem in itself.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:54.000 That's, I mean, we were banned so many times and demonetized so many times that.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, because they don't even want you to talk about this.

00:57:01.000 Like if we talk about it.

00:57:02.000 They don't want you talking about anything.

00:57:03.000 They banned us for quoting the CDC saying that more kids die from the flu than COVID.

00:57:07.000 That's a fact.

00:57:08.000 They didn't even have a justification.

00:57:08.000 We were banned.

00:57:09.000 They said, yeah, but it might cause people to not take COVID seriously.

00:57:12.000 So that's why we're banning.

00:57:13.000 You're like, did we say anything inaccurate?

00:57:14.000 Like, no.

00:57:15.000 So, and thank God for Rumble. 0.97

00:57:17.000 And I think we would also agree, too.

00:57:18.000 Like, X, there's a little bit of a facade there where if you look at it, like, oh, wait, hold on a second.

00:57:23.000 Talk out, speak out against H-1Bs. 1.00

00:57:25.000 Oh, well, now you lose your badge.

00:57:26.000 That's what got me in trouble.

00:57:28.000 That's actually what got me jammed up was not even the Jews. 1.00

00:57:30.000 It was the Jeets.

00:57:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:32.000 Why?

00:57:33.000 Because, hey, people stand to benefit from a lot of cheap labor.

00:57:35.000 And I think Elon's right about a lot of things.

00:57:37.000 But then when you kind of bear down on it, you go like, oh, okay, there are some problems here, transhumanism and this idea that we need uncapped H-1Bs. 0.82

00:57:44.000 And so I'm very, very grateful for Rumble.

00:57:47.000 Chris Pepper.

00:57:48.000 Rumble's the only free speech, true free speech platform.

00:57:51.000 They're the only ones.

00:57:52.000 Like, X doesn't even come close because like, yeah, if you criticize, you know, criticize Jews on X, you can get by with it. 0.99

00:57:58.000 But like, yeah, with the Jews in the H-1B visa, that's actually what got a lot of people jammed up, lost their blue checks. 0.97

00:58:03.000 It got me demonetized, lost me my blue check because I said these are scam visas that Jeets used to basically come here and get a bunch of dude for a period of time. 0.98

00:58:09.000 The same thing would happen if you criticized Ashley Sinclair before the cat got out of that bag. 0.95

00:58:13.000 Yeah.

00:58:14.000 Really?

00:58:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:15.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:58:16.000 Elon's baby bomb.

00:58:17.000 No, no, yeah, no, someone else.

00:58:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:20.000 I remember like if people talk like she was getting $27,000 like a week or every two weeks and no one and then we're getting $3 a month.

00:58:29.000 And then the Asian Tiffany Fong, they were, I think, because Elon wanted to bang both of them. 1.00

00:58:32.000 I don't think he did dang Tiffany Fawn.

00:58:34.000 He didn't.

00:58:34.000 I think he wanted to.

00:58:35.000 And she was like, what are you doing?

00:58:36.000 Whereas Ashley Sinclair was like, ooh, he was a target.

00:58:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:39.000 No, there was a period of time where if you spoke out against it, people are like, oh, wait, now I've been throttled.

00:58:43.000 So he has kind of, there is some truth to the authoritarian idea where he's used Twitter to like, let me just silence this voice.

00:58:50.000 Oh, Myron's going to speak out against H-1Bs. 1.00

00:58:53.000 Let me throttle him.

00:58:54.000 And Rumble doesn't do that.

00:58:55.000 And Chris Pavlovsky drives me nuts because we will have conversations.

00:58:59.000 We'll get off into tech stuff.

00:59:00.000 I'm like, Chris, speed it up.

00:59:03.000 But the guy means what he says.

00:59:05.000 Yeah, Chris is about it.

00:59:06.000 He's gotten turned off in countries.

00:59:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:08.000 Brazil.

00:59:08.000 For this.

00:59:09.000 Brazil, France.

00:59:10.000 I think they just started going back on.

00:59:12.000 France, not Brazil.

00:59:13.000 France just came back. 0.71

00:59:14.000 Russia got shut down.

00:59:15.000 China got shut down.

00:59:16.000 So he will protect creators to the point where we will turn our service off in your country if you're going to tell us the sense of this guy.

00:59:22.000 So yeah, Chris is definitely truly the free speech guy.

00:59:26.000 And I've told him this many times.

00:59:27.000 He's going to go down history for what he's done, man.

00:59:29.000 Because Twitch, YouTube, et cetera, they have a big problem with conservatives.

00:59:33.000 And this is a big reason why people might say, Myron, you're radical.

00:59:36.000 You talk about Hitler, blah, blah, blah.

00:59:37.000 I do it so that we can continue to have discussions on, you know, Hitler's not a thing anymore.

00:59:43.000 What I'm saying is like, maybe we ought to have the conversations now on the real shit, right?

00:59:47.000 But we should also be able to talk about things that were taboo before.

00:59:50.000 So pushing that edge is super important.

00:59:52.000 And it's like going to the gym.

00:59:54.000 If you don't lose it, you use it.

00:59:55.000 Sorry, if you don't use it, you lose it, right?

00:59:56.000 Atrophy.

00:59:57.000 So you got to go in the gym and curl.

00:59:58.000 And we got to curl that Hitler dumbbell every now and then and be like, hey, man. 0.81

01:00:01.000 Oh, no.

01:00:02.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:00:02.000 You ended it on a gay note.

01:00:04.000 Headless squats.

01:00:04.000 Curls.

01:00:06.000 Compound, son.

01:00:07.000 And I'll quit, you know, lay on my plane here.

01:00:10.000 With the H-1B visa, please just not into a building. 0.95

01:00:12.000 I know.

01:00:13.000 That's only on September.

01:00:15.000 It's not the anniversary past.

01:00:16.000 You guys are safe.

01:00:17.000 Thanks.

01:00:18.000 Next year.

01:00:18.000 Okay.

01:00:19.000 Next year, we got it.

01:00:20.000 We're not going to miss this time.

01:00:21.000 And I'm going to make sure Mordecai's not involved.

01:00:23.000 I appreciate it.

01:00:23.000 All right.

01:00:24.000 But with the immigration thing, and that's why, because when I was being critical of the H-1B visa, I used to work in immigration as an HSI special agent.

01:00:31.000 So I understood that we were getting beat on so many different fronts when it comes to immigration in this country.

01:00:35.000 And the H-1B visa was just one of the many ways we were getting beat.

01:00:38.000 Because it's not just illegal aliens coming in through the Southwest border.

01:00:41.000 It's also our visa system, which is being exploited.

01:00:43.000 Our document and benefit system that's getting exploited, whether it's green cards, work authorizations, all this stuff.

01:00:50.000 We're getting beat on so many different angles when it comes to immigration.

01:00:52.000 And the H-1B visa is one of the ones, one of the ways that we were being exploited the most.

01:00:55.000 So when I called it on, I said, this is one of the problems with immigration. 1.00

01:00:59.000 Boom, you know, you lose your blue check.

01:01:00.000 And it was like, whatever.

01:01:01.000 That's a huge scam.

01:01:02.000 And it's a scam that makes a lot of powerful people a lot of money.

01:01:06.000 Even Trump admitted it.

01:01:07.000 That, yeah, I hired people when he came into president.

01:01:10.000 Yeah, we got to reel it back a little bit when he was campaigning.

01:01:12.000 I think back in 2015, when he was campaigning, like, yeah, it's a powerful visa.

01:01:15.000 I use it, get around things, but we do need to restrict it to a degree.

01:01:19.000 So he even did, because entrepreneurs, right, you want cheap labor, et cetera.

01:01:21.000 It's one of the best ways to get it.

01:01:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:24.000 I mean, just ask Dubai, right?

01:01:25.000 That's like, hey, come over your slaves. 1.00

01:01:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:28.000 No, it cracked the whip.

01:01:29.000 Then they find out it takes like 12 Indians to do the job that one Eastern European would do. 1.00

01:01:33.000 Pretty much.

01:01:34.000 And they're like, well, we don't want to pay that guy.

01:01:35.000 That's too much money.

01:01:36.000 So let's bring in more Jesus.

01:01:37.000 Well, he doesn't want to be racist.

01:01:38.000 But they're so feeble.

01:01:39.000 Yeah.

01:01:41.000 That's six versus 12 Indians.

01:01:43.000 All right.

01:01:43.000 Last plug here.

01:01:45.000 Where's the best place we'll find you, Myron?

01:01:46.000 I appreciate it, brother.

01:01:47.000 No, of course.

01:01:48.000 No, it was a great conversation.

01:01:48.000 And thank you guys for letting me kind of expand on some of these topics that people would typically never let me expand on.

01:01:54.000 No, I think it's great.

01:01:55.000 And I think that you, look, I get it when sometimes you know you're going to say something so that people pay attention.

01:02:00.000 And then unfortunately, some people don't pay attention past 10 seconds to understand the conversation.

01:02:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:03.000 So I wanted to.

01:02:04.000 They just heard Hitler was right. 1.00

01:02:05.000 No, they saw the Roman salute and they're like, Yeah.

01:02:08.000 You know, and I was able to get their attention.

01:02:09.000 But after that, they're like, this guy's a Nazi.

01:02:11.000 Only on Sundays.

01:02:13.000 And today's a Sunday.

01:02:14.000 I'm just kidding.

01:02:14.000 Fresh and Fit.

01:02:15.000 Yeah, Fresh and Fit Everywhere on Rumble and YouTube, all the platforms.

01:02:19.000 Fresh and Fit.

01:02:19.000 That's the main podcast we do with the self-improvement.

01:02:21.000 And then my channel, where I do political and cultural stuff, Myron Gains X on all the platforms.

01:02:26.000 Rumble's home base, but I also stream on YouTube and all the other platforms as well.

01:02:30.000 Well, Kick Party, et cetera.

01:02:32.000 YouTubin.

01:02:34.000 So, uh, we'll leave you with that.

Louder with Crowder - November 05, 2025

Who is the Real Myron Gaines | Ash Wednesday 2025-11-05 18:11

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