Louder with Crowder - 🔴 Why the Inevitable Rise of China is a Huge Lie | GUEST: Tim Pool

00:00:00.000 *Bell rings* Hello?

00:00:05.000 Hey there!

00:00:06.000 I'm looking for a...

00:00:07.000 Mr. Billy Bennington.

00:00:09.000 Yeah, that's me.

00:00:10.000 Excellent, Mr. Bennington.

00:00:12.000 I'm just calling today because I heard you might be interested in refinancing your home.

00:00:16.000 No, I'm really not, and this isn't a good time.

00:00:19.000 Oh, hey now.

00:00:20.000 It's always a good time to talk about saving some money.

00:00:23.000 It looks like you're currently at a 5.3% rate, and, you know, I can get you up to 9, 9.5% easy.

00:00:31.000 Maybe even get you some cash out on the deal.

00:00:36.000 Well, respectfully, Mr. Bennington, you don't know what you're talking about, okay?

00:00:42.000 I'm the professional here, all right?

00:00:43.000 So why don't you take the tampon out and calm down? 0.80

00:00:47.000 I don't have time for this.

00:00:48.000 Please take me off your list.

00:00:50.000 Okay, I can do that.

00:00:52.000 Oh, and Mr. Bennington, get some rest.

00:00:58.000 You look tired.

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00:01:58.000 NMLS 182334. NMLS That's an invalid sip.

00:02:10.000 What?

00:02:10.000 I'm an invalid.

00:02:11.000 You see this?

00:02:13.000 Is there anything gayer than a back pillow that I have to wear right now?

00:02:17.000 Yes.

00:02:19.000 There's a few things.

00:02:20.000 Intercourse with another man. 0.71

00:02:21.000 Guys, I'm gay. 0.93

00:02:22.000 Pure man.

00:02:22.000 But the point remains.

00:02:24.000 Disc golf.

00:02:27.000 Farting and not making a sound.

00:02:28.000 It feels like someone played golf with my disc.

00:02:29.000 That's why I have the back pillow.

00:02:30.000 Thanks for touching a sore spot.

00:02:32.000 Eating corn the long way.

00:02:33.000 There's lots of things.

00:02:34.000 There are lots.

00:02:34.000 Okay.

00:02:35.000 All right.

00:02:36.000 I didn't think it through.

00:02:37.000 Double-fisting corndogs, there's a lot of things.

00:02:38.000 There are a lot of things.

00:02:40.000 I think this well has run dry, but a lot to get to today.

00:02:45.000 Look, the main topic of today is China inevitably the next great superpower.

00:02:50.000 We've been told this time and time again.

00:02:52.000 And there is one man who has been willing to stand up to that myth, or at least point it out as a myth.

00:02:59.000 And I think you know who that man is.

00:03:00.000 And my mind has been changed on that.

00:03:02.000 I, you know, was surrounded by people in finance for a long time saying, well, you know, I'm only hiring people who speak Mandarin.

00:03:06.000 It's inevitable.

00:03:07.000 They're going to be the next great superpower.

00:03:08.000 I'm going to go through some claims versus the truths there.

00:03:11.000 And it's, it's, it's.

00:03:13.000 It's kind of shocking as to how uninformed people are and how much propaganda people actually buy, which also brings us to Vance gave a great speech, Vice President on AI over, I believe, in France today, or yesterday, in defense of the United States and innovation.

00:03:28.000 Also, Denmark wants to buy California.

00:03:30.000 We're going to do the math.

00:03:30.000 Probably not going to happen.

00:03:31.000 Other nations, you should shut up. 0.99

00:03:32.000 We don't care what you think. 0.99

00:03:35.000 Especially Denmark.

00:03:36.000 And would you get yourself sterilized to protest Donald Trump? 1.00

00:03:40.000 Because this bitch did. 1.00

00:03:44.000 Sounds like a good excuse for me, honestly. 1.00

00:03:46.000 Yes, this was a state rep who did so.

00:03:48.000 We're going to get into that in more.

00:03:49.000 So at some point, I guarantee you, you're going to see, if you're still watching on YouTube, this.

00:03:54.000 Head on over to Rumble.

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00:03:57.000 Also, we have on the show, I forgot to say this, major announcement, Rumble Premium.

00:04:01.000 Mug Club is now Rumble Premium.

00:04:02.000 Rumble Premium is Mug Club.

00:04:03.000 And Tim Pool is now signing onto the network.

00:04:07.000 It has been announced, I believe, later yesterday.

00:04:09.000 He's going to be on the show, give you the ins and outs.

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00:04:23.000 We're building an army.

00:04:25.000 Figuratively.

00:04:27.000 Could be literally two.

00:04:28.000 Other holdouts out there?

00:04:28.000 Yeah, there are a lot of guns.

00:04:29.000 There are other holdouts.

00:04:30.000 We'll see.

00:04:30.000 Water is warm.

00:04:31.000 All right.

00:04:32.000 It's okay to admit you made a mistake.

00:04:33.000 Captain Morgan, you doing well?

00:04:34.000 I'm doing really well.

00:04:35.000 What?

00:04:36.000 I'm just a happy person right now.

00:04:37.000 You feel good?

00:04:38.000 My back doesn't hurt.

00:04:39.000 All right.

00:04:40.000 And, of course, Josh Feierstein, who's back, is fit as a fiddle.

00:04:43.000 Must be nice.

00:04:44.000 I've got all kinds of back.

00:04:49.000 And now I'm going to, I guess, present a clip that I have not seen.

00:04:54.000 But I was told I need to watch.

00:04:56.000 Remember that rapper?

00:04:58.000 Dank!

00:04:59.000 With the orbit?

00:05:00.000 Dank DeMoss?

00:05:02.000 Well, I guess...

00:05:03.000 Not the smell.

00:05:04.000 I guess it appeared on The Breakfast Club to try and give you her side of the story.

00:05:10.000 Several sides of the drama with the whole lift debacle.

00:05:15.000 She doesn't have sides. 0.98

00:05:16.000 I ended up ordering me a lift, you know?

00:05:18.000 And you order a lift all the time.

00:05:19.000 Yes, I do.

00:05:22.000 It was like 15 minutes away.

00:05:23.000 Did they have to get her a custom couch? 1.00

00:05:25.000 I went downstairs.

00:05:26.000 As I'm walking to the car, he looked funny.

00:05:29.000 I'm just like, you ain't gonna let me in your car?

00:05:32.000 I'm like, for real?

00:05:33.000 So I put my camera out.

00:05:35.000 And it's like, why you not letting me in your car?

00:05:38.000 Like, I kind of peeped that.

00:05:40.000 That's what he was on because the look at me, I've seen that look before, you know?

00:05:44.000 So that's how it happened.

00:05:46.000 And this is the first time this has ever happened?

00:05:47.000 The first time.

00:05:49.000 So that seems pretty normal, right?

00:05:51.000 What do you mean we're going to get to the couch thing?

00:05:53.000 Oh, is that in the next?

00:05:54.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:05:55.000 So that is not just me because I've watched the breakfast club.

00:05:57.000 So she's there explaining her side, right?

00:05:59.000 Okay.

00:05:59.000 She looked a little low to me.

00:06:01.000 She did look a little low. 0.97

00:06:02.000 And there may be a reason.

00:06:04.000 Okay, when she says, didn't let me in the lift, she means the man didn't get out and shove her into the lift, correct?

00:06:10.000 I just want to make sure I understand.

00:06:12.000 You can have a hydraulic press to shove her in. 0.99

00:06:16.000 Look, I've never once just said, ha, fat person.

00:06:18.000 That's not what this is.

00:06:19.000 This is someone who's advocating this kind of an unhealthy lifestyle for other people and advocates pride for it.

00:06:25.000 You should not be proud.

00:06:27.000 There is a litany of bad decisions that have led up to this.

00:06:30.000 Your body is telling you something.

00:06:33.000 You're dying.

00:06:34.000 Okay?

00:06:35.000 Let's be honest about it.

00:06:36.000 I will find tears welling up in my eyes if I'm at the gym and I see someone really trying to get it done, and I'll give them words of encouragement.

00:06:42.000 That's not the same thing as advocating an early death, which is what is happening here.

00:06:48.000 That being said, it also makes for great comedy fodder.

00:06:51.000 I guess here is the next clip where she fell at a concert?

00:06:54.000 No, this is the...

00:06:55.000 No, this is her entering the podcast.

00:06:57.000 Okay, again, they said, don't watch it.

00:06:59.000 Don't watch it.

00:07:00.000 We're going to show it to you on air because I guess they like making me mad.

00:07:02.000 Let's watch the couch.

00:07:03.000 Peace, big day.

00:07:05.000 How are you?

00:07:06.000 Good morning.

00:07:06.000 You good?

00:07:07.000 Good morning.

00:07:07.000 Oh, good lord.

00:07:08.000 Nice to meet you.

00:07:08.000 Hi, how are you?

00:07:10.000 Thanks for attempting to cover something.

00:07:11.000 How are you, brother?

00:07:12.000 You good?

00:07:12.000 Nice to meet you, Keith.

00:07:13.000 Got it.

00:07:14.000 Those are towels.

00:07:15.000 There's the chair that she's attempting to sit in.

00:07:18.000 What you want?

00:07:19.000 What you need?

00:07:20.000 A bigger chair or something.

00:07:22.000 How about a hammock?

00:07:24.000 So they disassembled their set to move the couch over for her to fit. 0.98

00:07:33.000 Talk about the entitlement.

00:07:36.000 It's like, this is the only chair you got?

00:07:38.000 You don't got a family of Mayans.

00:07:39.000 We're in a Mayan hammock.

00:07:41.000 He's too fast!

00:07:42.000 There's not enough fabrics!

00:07:44.000 You only have a normal person chair here?

00:07:46.000 Yes.

00:07:47.000 You ain't got like four beanbag chairs?

00:07:49.000 Come on! 0.61

00:07:50.000 She should be happy the chair she sat in didn't collapse immediately.

00:07:53.000 You got like that love sack to have at the mall, but the one for the movies for the whole family?

00:07:58.000 You guys are being insensitive. 1.00

00:07:59.000 You don't know what it's like to swallow a stool with your butt. 0.99

00:08:02.000 And then she's like this, speaking into the microphone. 0.99

00:08:04.000 Thanks, guys.

00:08:05.000 Appreciate the couch.

00:08:06.000 She goes to the doctor and asks for a stool sandwich.

00:08:08.000 She's like, I think I got one.

00:08:13.000 Can't believe the makeup's so small!

00:08:14.000 The doctor's like, yes, yes I can. 0.99

00:08:16.000 You know she can't wipe her butt, dude. 1.00

00:08:19.000 Just that's the entitlement. 0.99

00:08:20.000 That's the only chair you've got?

00:08:21.000 And you know if they said, yeah, why, what's the problem?

00:08:23.000 Like, oh, you gotta ask me if they're the problem.

00:08:25.000 You know what, look, and I say this, and you're right at the cusp, Gerald, of too tall.

00:08:31.000 Right, where you almost have to get everything custom.

00:08:33.000 Airplanes are tough.

00:08:34.000 I'm kind of there as far as the width on airplanes or sometimes in cabs.

00:08:38.000 Yours is more of the depth.

00:08:39.000 Yeah, a little bit of the depth.

00:08:41.000 DeMoss and I have that in common.

00:08:44.000 But you know that you're not average, right?

00:08:45.000 Closing at about 6'5".

00:08:46.000 You know you're not average.

00:08:47.000 Yes, exactly.

00:08:48.000 I don't expect accommodation.

00:08:50.000 For someone to expect the entire world to revolve around them, no pun intended.

00:08:54.000 Okay, pun intended.

00:08:58.000 That's a manifest.

00:08:58.000 More like a moon.

00:08:59.000 Yes.

00:09:01.000 She doesn't have an entourage. 0.94

00:09:02.000 She has moons.

00:09:04.000 When you're fat and you walk in with clothes like that, all bets are off.

00:09:08.000 Like, you can be made fun of all day. 0.79

00:09:10.000 And here's the thing.

00:09:11.000 You love it.

00:09:11.000 Ultimately, look, you see these stories now.

00:09:14.000 What you don't see is how it ends because the media doesn't want to cover that.

00:09:18.000 And it really does make you wonder when people try and push this fat pride, when people push LGBT, whatever it is, you go, how can...

00:09:25.000 How can they always be wrong, those on the left, and push pride in something that is destructive to society?

00:09:31.000 Also, destructive to your knees.

00:09:33.000 knees.

00:09:34.000 Here's a clip of her falling.

00:09:35.000 Oh.

00:09:38.000 She was like a stuck turtle too for a minute there. 1.00

00:09:44.000 That was a 7.2.

00:09:46.000 There was a bounce on that inflatable blob you use at summer camp where a kid jumps in.

00:09:53.000 People are still trying to help her out.

00:09:56.000 Even in the movie Heavyweights, the fat kids were jumping on her! 0.99

00:10:00.000 Yeah, somewhere a producer on the other end of the stage...

00:10:03.000 You know, it's a travesty they don't play the rest of that clip because I want to see her getting up. 1.00

00:10:07.000 Yeah, I know.

00:10:08.000 It'd be like 10 minutes long.

00:10:10.000 You gotta call a forklift.

00:10:12.000 That's a whole situation.

00:10:13.000 I'm getting up.

00:10:14.000 Slow and steady.

00:10:15.000 Win the race.

00:10:16.000 Not yet.

00:10:18.000 No, no.

00:10:18.000 No.

00:10:19.000 I'll just stay here.

00:10:20.000 The party's at the float.

00:10:22.000 Well, she's getting down with the sickness.

00:10:23.000 I'll tell you that.

00:10:26.000 I want to see her crowd surf.

00:10:28.000 No.

00:10:28.000 You down?

00:10:29.000 Oh, I'm always down.

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:33.000 All of this is not her fault, though.

00:10:35.000 She did think she was getting breakfast at that show.

00:10:40.000 Y'all ain't got any chairs.

00:10:42.000 Y'all ain't got no biscuits, no gravy.

00:10:43.000 Y'all ain't got a buffet, y'all.

00:10:45.000 Y'all ain't got no grits.

00:10:46.000 It's false advertising.

00:10:47.000 I'm going to add you to my class.

00:10:48.000 Y'all lie.

00:10:56.000 Guarantee she's the kind of person who eats...

00:10:57.000 What's that called where it's like a chicken?

00:10:59.000 What is it?

00:11:00.000 It's a quail.

00:11:01.000 A turducken. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Hey! 0.99

00:11:04.000 Hey, you want some water or something?

00:11:05.000 I don't know.

00:11:06.000 Y'all got any turducken back there? 0.99

00:11:08.000 Y'all got a whole turducken? 1.00

00:11:10.000 And a...

00:11:11.000 Just for me?

00:11:12.000 And a dyke. 1.00

00:11:13.000 I'm getting faint. 0.99

00:11:14.000 You don't want my ass to fall. 0.99

00:11:15.000 You know how long it take to get me up? 0.99

00:11:19.000 I fell in the studio last time.

00:11:20.000 Didn't get up till we do the B-side.

00:11:25.000 You got an Osterduckens?

00:11:27.000 Add an ostrich to that, too? 0.51

00:11:31.000 Okay.

00:11:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:33.000 That's mean.

00:11:34.000 I'm fat.

00:11:35.000 Oh, right.

00:11:37.000 Not that fat.

00:11:38.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:11:42.000 Here's the thing.

00:11:43.000 This person is not the craziest lady featured in this show. 1.00

00:11:47.000 That's true.

00:11:48.000 Last week...

00:11:50.000 Radically pro-abortion, feminist, exactly how you would think she looks, Michigan State Rep Lori Pahutski, I think it's pronounced, Pahutski from Livonia, in protest of the fascism of Donald Trump.

00:12:06.000 You're going to see a clip, so you know I'm not making it up.

00:12:09.000 She voluntarily sterilized herself.

00:12:13.000 Michigan State Rep Lori Pahutsky says she had discussed undergoing sterilization with her husband for years.

00:12:19.000 And then, this year, Donald Trump became president.

00:12:23.000 And that made me worried about things like insurance coverage, whether or not all hospital systems would even continue providing that level of care.

00:12:31.000 Depending on what came out of Washington.

00:12:32.000 So we decided to keep the surgery date and I got it done.

00:12:36.000 But Husky fearing the fate of contraceptives after the first administration's effort to roll back insurance coverage.

00:12:42.000 I think a lot of people decide if they don't want to have kids anymore that they just would like a more formative perm of birth control.

00:12:50.000 A formative perm of birth control.

00:12:52.000 A huge push!

00:12:53.000 I told you! 0.91

00:12:57.000 House party between your legs. 0.97

00:12:58.000 Now! 0.55

00:13:01.000 You know how it goes from the center to all the legs?

00:13:03.000 Can you perm that out for me?

00:13:05.000 I want to keep this permanent.

00:13:07.000 I want that to be permanent.

00:13:09.000 And let me ask you, you can comment below. 0.99

00:13:12.000 Is this grandstanding, or do you think this woman is actually concerned that Donald Trump is going to show up and punch her in the puss? 0.99

00:13:20.000 Like, when she's like, hey, hey, look, I'm going to force you to have my baby! 1.00

00:13:25.000 Long shake!

00:13:26.000 What is your fear here?

00:13:27.000 No one is talking about doing away with birth control, and you already voted to include, to preserve radically pro-abortion policies in Michigan.

00:13:36.000 Keep in mind this broad.

00:13:38.000 Calls herself, or describes herself as a scientist, a millennial, and a bisexual woman.

00:13:43.000 So you didn't, I mean, half of you didn't even need to become sterilized.

00:13:47.000 Her husband.

00:13:49.000 What's he there for?

00:13:50.000 Ah, he's not.

00:13:52.000 She just says bisexual to try and keep him on his toes.

00:13:54.000 Like, I have options.

00:13:56.000 I have a lot.

00:13:56.000 Look, you only have 50%.

00:13:58.000 I have the whole gamut. 1.00

00:13:59.000 Now, it's stupid, of course. 0.99

00:14:02.000 But we do actually have an inside scoop. 0.99

00:14:04.000 Her PR manager.

00:14:06.000 has been doing some interviews, and we have this one for you in Spanish.

00:14:10.000 And I call the cookery, "Risita, come to the kitchen, come to the kitchen, come, that at the 2am they are already here, look, the bath, the shankla, all painted, because I didn't give time to put the bath and the bath.

00:14:27.000 I'm going to the beach, I've been up to the sea.

00:14:30.000 And I found the bath and I put the bath in the bath and I found it because the bath was on the glass, and I met the bath in the chipion and the fire.

00:14:59.000 And when I enter into the restaurant, I see the cookery with the bath and I go to the bath and I go to the bath.

00:15:09.000 And I go to the bath and see where the bath will come.

00:15:15.000 I came to the bath and I had a few water.

00:15:19.000 I had to go to the bath.

00:15:25.000 do So Adam We're gonna get letters.

00:15:54.000 Funny ones.

00:15:57.000 She did it, not us.

00:15:59.000 Oh, rest in peace to that guy.

00:16:03.000 She is gonna be so pissed. 1.00

00:16:06.000 All right.

00:16:07.000 I guess here, by the way, we're going to have Tim Pool on later.

00:16:10.000 We're going to be going a little long today because Tim Pool had a little bit of a scheduling issue for us to match up.

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00:16:32.000 Let's move on to this.

00:16:35.000 I hate Europe.

00:16:38.000 Just in general.

00:16:40.000 Let me just end the show.

00:16:41.000 There you go.

00:16:41.000 Done.

00:16:42.000 Next segment.

00:16:43.000 I don't.

00:16:43.000 I don't like Europe.

00:16:44.000 Tim just freaked everybody out.

00:16:52.000 I got it! 0.99

00:16:53.000 And I'm just at this point where I could even see yesterday when we were talking about Africa where I said, Africa sucks. 0.98

00:17:00.000 There's no place in Africa where I would want to live. 1.00

00:17:03.000 Pick a place.

00:17:04.000 No.

00:17:05.000 People are going like, oh, you can't say that about an entire continent.

00:17:07.000 Yes, I can, and I did.

00:17:08.000 I don't like it.

00:17:09.000 I think it's inferior.

00:17:11.000 I would say, and this is where, lest you say I'm a white supremacist, we get into a disagreement. 0.99

00:17:18.000 Europe sucks, too, to be clear. 1.00

00:17:20.000 I would take 20,000 pro-capitalism, pro-American, Cuban migrant refugees over one Swede because they're cowards. 1.00

00:17:32.000 They hit dirty in hockey and they wear visors. 0.99

00:17:34.000 Now, they wear visors.

00:17:37.000 The same goes for Denmark.

00:17:39.000 Watch it, Jamaica. 0.99

00:17:40.000 I think the rest of the world needs to remember.

00:17:43.000 We don't care.

00:17:44.000 The stance should be, we don't want to be like you.

00:17:47.000 We have had results that are different from every other nation, ever, because we've done it differently.

00:17:53.000 And we don't want to be like you.

00:17:55.000 UK? No.

00:17:56.000 Germany?

00:17:57.000 No.

00:17:57.000 Denmark?

00:17:58.000 Absolutely not.

00:18:00.000 We don't even really know who you are.

00:18:03.000 If Denmark as a country walked into this room right now, I wouldn't recognize it.

00:18:07.000 So in response to President Trump's legitimate interest in purchasing Greenland, the Danes have now announced a campaign to buy California for $1 trillion.

00:18:20.000 And just so you know, that number is not even close.

00:18:24.000 Not even close to what would be required.

00:18:27.000 But they did release a statement.

00:18:29.000 Saying that they want to bring Danish values to California.

00:18:31.000 They said, we'll bring Hugo to Hollywood.

00:18:36.000 That's like their aloha spirit.

00:18:39.000 It means like spirit of good cheer.

00:18:42.000 We'll bring Hugo to Hollywood.

00:18:44.000 By Cleans and Beverly Hills.

00:18:46.000 And Organic Smallbrook to Ever Street Corner.

00:18:50.000 Rule of law, yeah.

00:18:52.000 Universal health care and fact-based politics multiply.

00:18:56.000 Okay.

00:18:56.000 Well, how's it worked out for you?

00:18:59.000 They don't even have an Oakland.

00:19:00.000 No!

00:19:01.000 Oh my gosh, you think a bunch of ultra-white Danes would have any idea what to do with Oakland? 1.00

00:19:06.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:19:08.000 You can't reason with these people! 1.00

00:19:12.000 What happened to my catalytic converter?

00:19:15.000 I don't know what happened.

00:19:17.000 I was at the corner batting Luther King and Malcolm X, and after the step light, my car was on blocks.

00:19:23.000 All our bikes are gone.

00:19:24.000 You tell me that the Raiders left?

00:19:26.000 Yes!

00:19:28.000 Even their statement only mentioned Los Angeles landmarks.

00:19:31.000 You guys know there's more, right?

00:19:34.000 Also, LA, not great sometimes. 0.98

00:19:37.000 Oh my gosh, they have black people. 0.73

00:19:41.000 What is a triad?

00:19:46.000 Let's do some math here.

00:19:49.000 This is how absurd it is.

00:19:51.000 And this also gives you...

00:19:52.000 Pretty good picture as to why America is in the driver's seat and we should be using that leverage.

00:19:57.000 So they kind of opened a door here, an opportunity for us.

00:20:00.000 Let's do some calculus.

00:20:02.000 Ah, shoot.

00:20:03.000 What happened, Tim?

00:20:04.000 Oh, no.

00:20:06.000 He's got a bag of goodies.

00:20:08.000 Need help?

00:20:09.000 Need some help?

00:20:10.000 It didn't unplug, right?

00:20:12.000 I don't know.

00:20:13.000 Let's see.

00:20:14.000 Okay.

00:20:14.000 All right.

00:20:15.000 So let's look at this theoretical purchase.

00:20:17.000 And all the references are available, so we're going to do this like a good account.

00:20:20.000 Hold on.

00:20:24.000 So, the purchase of California.

00:20:26.000 Let's look at Denmark's annual revenue.

00:20:30.000 It is $47 billion.

00:20:32.000 That's a lot.

00:20:33.000 $47 billion.

00:20:35.000 California, let's do it by land valuation.

00:20:37.000 Let's do it a couple of different ways to see if $1 trillion is reasonable.

00:20:39.000 The median price of an acre in California is $18...

00:20:44.000 A thousand dollars.

00:20:45.000 Number of acres is 105 million.

00:20:48.000 105 million times 18,000.

00:20:51.000 That comes to, ooh, two trillion.

00:20:54.000 About a trillion short, Denmark.

00:20:56.000 Just on land alone.

00:20:57.000 That's not just a forgot-to-carry-the-one type error.

00:21:01.000 Let's do it by a different measure.

00:21:03.000 And keep in mind, this is just one state.

00:21:04.000 Right.

00:21:04.000 Denmark's an entire country.

00:21:06.000 Right.

00:21:06.000 An entire inconsequential country.

00:21:08.000 Yes.

00:21:09.000 Let's do it by income valuation.

00:21:11.000 Annual California revenue is about $630 billion, let's assume.

00:21:18.000 Conservatively, a 5% recapitalization rate.

00:21:21.000 That sounds fair, Gerald?

00:21:23.000 So price here, if you average it, based on income potential, would be $12.6 trillion purchase price.

00:21:33.000 Well, that's...

00:21:34.000 Better get to work, Denmark.

00:21:39.000 You're going to need some outside investment, potentially.

00:21:42.000 I get that it must really bother you to understand that the United States legitimately could purchase Greenland or, you know, God forbid, just take it.

00:21:52.000 There's 57,000 people in Greenland.

00:21:55.000 That's not even, dude, that's not even El Centro, California.

00:21:58.000 No.

00:21:58.000 But you guys can't even come close to just within striking distance of purchasing a state.

00:22:04.000 And this is the example, again, you see it with trade across the world.

00:22:07.000 When people talk about the consequences for the United States, just think of this as an example.

00:22:11.000 They don't have any leverage.

00:22:13.000 They don't have the purchasing power.

00:22:15.000 This is an entire country who, by the way, in the international stage, these summits and organizations, they get to sit with just as much of a legitimate voice as the United States.

00:22:24.000 They can't even purchase a tenth of a state.

00:22:28.000 One state!

00:22:31.000 If you don't trust my word, well, don't take my word for it.

00:22:34.000 We actually have another person who did some math on this.

00:22:36.000 our very own economist, Feierstein Bad Money.

00:22:40.000 Hey friends, Feierstein here, and welcome to another edition of Bad Money.

00:22:50.000 Now, I'm not just here to entertain you, I'm also here to educate you.

00:22:54.000 So call me at 555-5555.

00:22:57.000 Or tweet me at whocares69.

00:22:59.000 Now, in response to Trump offering to purchase Greenland from Denmark, the Danes have proposed buying California from the United States!

00:23:06.000 Oh no!

00:23:06.000 I think this is a smashing idea!

00:23:10.000 They say they'll bring bike lanes to Beverly Hills!

00:23:13.000 Goodbye car keys!

00:23:14.000 And hello, hello!

00:23:16.000 Yeah!

00:23:17.000 Safety first!

00:23:19.000 That feels like hygge! 1.00

00:23:21.000 Mix that with some California sunshine and a little bit of Zola!

00:23:25.000 And you'll be flying high!

00:23:28.000 There's too many!

00:23:30.000 No!

00:23:30.000 I know what you're thinking!

00:23:32.000 Denmark?

00:23:32.000 Danish?

00:23:33.000 Like the pastries? 1.00

00:23:37.000 No, stupid! 1.00

00:23:39.000 Those are from Austria, you Nazi scum! 1.00

00:23:41.000 They're bringing a smorgasbord of new food someday in Denmark, whatever it's called. 1.00

00:23:47.000 Yeah, they got all kinds.

00:23:49.000 They got smar's bread.

00:23:50.000 You ever heard of smar's bread?

00:23:51.000 No.

00:23:52.000 It's like a buttery toast with little toppings on it.

00:23:54.000 You can have all kinds of stuff.

00:23:55.000 You can have smar's bread with meat.

00:23:56.000 You can have smar's bread with cheese.

00:23:58.000 You can even have smar's bread with PB&J.

00:24:02.000 Now, if you'll excuse me.

00:24:08.000 I'll be spending the rest of my day spending all my Danish crones at Legoland until my kids give me crones disease. 0.83

00:24:14.000 Lesson is we should just take over Denmark.

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 Pretty much.

00:24:28.000 And by the way, to tell you, we did mention this in the outset, but American Financing, close as fast as 10 days.

00:24:33.000 When you're looking at getting a mortgage, save $800 a month.

00:24:36.000 You could delay up to two mortgage payments.

00:24:37.000 Call 1-800-974-6500 or AmericanFinancing.net slash Crowder.

00:24:43.000 Save some money. 0.86

00:24:44.000 There are a lot of tricks in this industry, and a lot of Americans get screwed.

00:24:47.000 It's time to start helping the American consumer.

00:24:49.000 Start empowering you.

00:24:50.000 NMLS 182334. I guess we've got to say that.

00:24:54.000 Yes.

00:24:54.000 And by the way, they've helped a lot of people with refinancing, too.

00:24:56.000 Not just new stuff, so refinancing is huge.

00:24:58.000 So you can save some money and put a bunch back in your pocket.

00:25:00.000 And keep your eyes out if rates come down, too.

00:25:03.000 That's something to definitely be on the lookout for.

00:25:06.000 Hey, let's go to Vice President J.D. Vance.

00:25:08.000 He was speaking in France yesterday.

00:25:10.000 And this will lead into our segment on China.

00:25:13.000 All the claims versus the truth as to what you've heard.

00:25:16.000 They are the next superpower.

00:25:17.000 I think they're a paper tiger.

00:25:19.000 But we could be the ones who empower them.

00:25:21.000 That's kind of what hangs in the balance here.

00:25:24.000 So J.D. Vance addressed this.

00:25:26.000 But first, let's start with his outlined four-pronged approach on America and the future of AI. This was a great speech.

00:25:35.000 Number one, this administration will ensure that American AI technology continues to be the gold standard worldwide, and we are the partner of choice for others, foreign countries, and certainly businesses, as they expand their own use of AI.

00:25:50.000 Number two, we believe that excessive regulation of the AI sector could kill a transformative industry just as it's taking off, and will make every effort to encourage pro-growth AI policies.

00:26:05.000 Number three, We feel very strongly that AI must remain free from ideological bias and that American AI will not be co-opted into a tool for authoritarian censorship.

00:26:17.000 And finally, number four, the Trump administration will maintain a pro-worker growth path for AI so it can be a potent tool for job creation in the United States.

00:26:28.000 Why waste camera time on Justin Trudeau?

00:26:32.000 I was surprised he got an invite still.

00:26:35.000 By the way, he's definitely wearing eyeliner, right?

00:26:37.000 I don't know.

00:26:38.000 It's hard to tell.

00:26:39.000 Maybe he's wearing fake lashes.

00:26:40.000 He could just have wonderful eyelashes.

00:26:43.000 He has beautiful eyes.

00:26:44.000 Fine, whatever.

00:26:45.000 You noticed his eyes.

00:26:46.000 I get lost on him.

00:26:47.000 He did, by the way, number one, he said, we're going to lead.

00:26:50.000 I love that.

00:26:51.000 The first thing he did in the room full of people who want to be the leaders, we are in charge.

00:26:57.000 It's us.

00:26:59.000 He justified it.

00:27:00.000 He gave his reasoning for it.

00:27:02.000 Without mentioning China specifically, I think you can tell who he's talking about here.

00:27:06.000 He warned, really, the entire EU about what the future could look like if AI were to not only fall in the hands of perhaps a fascist regime, but if said fascist regime would actually find themselves in the driver's seat because they'd been empowered by members of the EU. This is really important.

00:27:28.000 Pretty stern stuff.

00:27:30.000 As they do with other tech, some authoritarian regimes have stolen and used AI to strengthen their military intelligence and surveillance capabilities, capture foreign data, and create propaganda to undermine other nations' national security.

00:27:47.000 And I would also remind our international friends here today that partnering with such regimes, it never pays off in the long term.

00:27:55.000 From CCTV to 5G equipment, we're all familiar with cheap tech in the marketplace that's been heavily subsidized and exported by authoritarian regimes.

00:28:04.000 Partnering with them means chaining your nation to an authoritarian master that seeks to infiltrate, dig in, and seize your information infrastructure.

00:28:15.000 Should a deal seem too good to be true, just remember the old adage that we learned in Silicon Valley, if you aren't paying for the product, you are the product.

00:28:25.000 It's very true.

00:28:26.000 When you think of the fact that you are the product, meaning your information, your personal data, and you consider what China wants to do.

00:28:31.000 We have plenty of examples.

00:28:32.000 You have Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, TikTok, DeepSeek.

00:28:37.000 I mean, that should be no surprise that it's looking to mine your information.

00:28:41.000 It has DeepSeek in the name.

00:28:45.000 They will never know.

00:28:47.000 The only one worse was Made Off.

00:28:52.000 And DeepSeek.

00:28:53.000 They have outright, they've refused to answer any queries, for example, or sorry, when you try and put these in, as far as the AI, DeepSeek, they also refuse to answer questions just like TikTok does, or they simply deny it.

00:29:04.000 But DeepSeek, if you try and ask DeepSeek about Tiananmen Square, it's like, what you're talking about?

00:29:08.000 No idea!

00:29:10.000 You talking about, like, Lemon Square?

00:29:13.000 No.

00:29:15.000 By the way, China, no good desserts. 1.00

00:29:17.000 Fortune cookie sucks. 0.99

00:29:20.000 It won't answer anything. 0.99

00:29:21.000 You ever say...

00:29:22.000 If you go to a Chinese restaurant, you plan on doing dessert somewhere else.

00:29:26.000 It's part of the evening.

00:29:27.000 I don't know.

00:29:27.000 P.F. Chang's has a banana egg roll.

00:29:30.000 No way.

00:29:31.000 That sounds terrible.

00:29:33.000 I particularly like it when they mix the sauce at the table for the lettuce wraps.

00:29:35.000 They go, do you want more spicy, less spicy?

00:29:37.000 It's like having my own little slave.

00:29:41.000 It's a real Chinese experience.

00:29:43.000 Yes, it is.

00:29:43.000 It's not a slave.

00:29:44.000 It's fine.

00:29:45.000 No, it's fine.

00:29:47.000 You've been working on the railroad.

00:29:50.000 Go get me some cobalt.

00:29:51.000 And he finishes it.

00:29:51.000 He goes, oh, don't live wrong, Dave.

00:29:53.000 Live wrong.

00:29:54.000 It makes me feel really powerful.

00:29:56.000 So, deep seek.

00:29:57.000 Tiananmen Square? 0.52

00:29:58.000 Nothing.

00:29:58.000 Anything about Xi Jinping, including whether he even exists, anything about Taiwan being an independent country, when you consider that you're often reaching AI with customer service or for product support these days, imagine all of that being in the hands of the communist Chinese.

00:30:19.000 Of course they seek to destroy the United States of America. 0.86

00:30:22.000 They want to be the next superpower of the world, and they want us to falter.

00:30:25.000 Why would we give away that territory?

00:30:28.000 That's what it comes down to.

00:30:30.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:30:30.000 And by the way, these guys just lied anyway.

00:30:32.000 Of course.

00:30:33.000 They lied about all of this, and I think we're going to talk about that here in just a second.

00:30:37.000 But the world bought it for a minute.

00:30:38.000 It actually made NVIDIA's stock go down considerably.

00:30:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:41.000 I think they lost almost a trillion dollars.

00:30:43.000 It was either $500 billion or $800 billion, something like that, in the first day of market cap.

00:30:48.000 Just one company.

00:30:50.000 That's insane.

00:30:51.000 And Denmark still couldn't buy them.

00:30:54.000 They couldn't buy their decrease in market.

00:30:57.000 So let's get into this.

00:30:58.000 Let's get into China.

00:30:59.000 And I would really like to hear from you.

00:31:01.000 Comment below.

00:31:02.000 Did you grow up in the era where everyone assumed?

00:31:05.000 I know I did.

00:31:06.000 And Gerald and I were talking about this.

00:31:07.000 It's inevitable.

00:31:08.000 China is going to be the world's next great superpower.

00:31:10.000 We are going to take a backseat.

00:31:11.000 We just need to accept it.

00:31:12.000 Get ready to serve your tiny overlords.

00:31:17.000 Prepare for the inevitable.

00:31:19.000 I don't think that's true, and I'll lay out the case as to why that's not true and why there's been one person who has really been the fulcrum for this shift in our approach to China.

00:31:28.000 So last month, a U.S. intelligence report, it actually reported that China is building a new military compound in Beijing 10 times The size of the Pentagon.

00:31:40.000 Reference is available.

00:31:41.000 Link in the description.

00:31:41.000 Every show, we do that.

00:31:43.000 Please, don't take my word for it.

00:31:44.000 Do your own research.

00:31:45.000 Now, their base is allegedly huge.

00:31:49.000 That being said, the military equipment is still built by Timu.

00:31:52.000 Couldn't use DeepSafe for that one.

00:32:00.000 That's cute.

00:32:01.000 No.

00:32:02.000 And this is just the tip of the iceberg on some of the moves that Beijing is making.

00:32:07.000 China, obviously, is trying to come on fast and strong, and they will if they will be allowed, keyword is allowed, to do so. 0.88

00:32:15.000 As the Pentagon signaled the emergence of the United States as a major military power.

00:32:20.000 China wants to cement its military status in the present day.

00:32:24.000 On December 26th, China's aerospace sector flew a sixth-generation fighter design for the first time.

00:32:31.000 A Chinese artificial intelligence model, DeepSeq, sent shockwaves around the world last week, hopping the free download charts in 140 countries and regions.

00:32:45.000 China has become the world's largest car exporter, overtaking When it comes to solar power, China is outpacing everyone.

00:32:58.000 Last year it commissioned as much solar energy as the entire world did in 2022. For the first time, it's establishing a new naval outpost in Southeast Asia.

00:33:11.000 Launched in June 2022, the Fujian is a massive leap forward for China's navy.

00:33:16.000 A stunning show of ambition and innovation.

00:33:19.000 Ten years ago, this arsenal was around 50 or 60. It's now over 100. We see them deploying larger numbers of nuclear weapons.

00:33:27.000 Economists are saying that.

00:33:29.000 Are saying that by 2030...

00:33:31.000 China will reach parity with the United States.

00:33:33.000 And what I'm saying as an expert in my field is that when you reach parity, you've lost.

00:33:40.000 And I know this is me being pedantic and childish, but I don't like taking any type of international finance advice from someone who looks like he wears toe shoes.

00:33:52.000 They're good for your souls, man.

00:33:54.000 Oh, whatever.

00:33:55.000 I'm wearing a long-sleeved t-shirt.

00:33:56.000 I'm not necessarily Mr. Formal, but enough is enough.

00:33:59.000 This industry is hacky sacks.

00:34:00.000 Yes, exactly.

00:34:02.000 Frisbee golf.

00:34:04.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:34:05.000 It always worries me when you hear people in the United States going along with this, because we know the propaganda line, and we also know the intent of China.

00:34:12.000 They're very explicit about their goals.

00:34:14.000 You can read about them in their state-run media outlets.

00:34:18.000 There's your first clue.

00:34:20.000 This is written in, I think we translated this, by 2050, two centuries after the opium wars which plunged the Middle Kingdom into a period of hurt and shame, China is set to regain its might and reascend to the top of the world. 0.74

00:34:31.000 Even though the Chinese government certainly has not planned the timetable and roadmap to become the world's number one, this is a people's war. 0.57

00:34:40.000 But is China actually capable?

00:34:43.000 Of being number one?

00:34:44.000 And is it inevitable?

00:34:46.000 We've been told that, well, don't let this tin can about to kick hit you in the teeth.

00:34:50.000 It's time for some truth fact.

00:34:56.000 I meant to say clean truth.

00:34:58.000 What?

00:35:00.000 We admonished Stephen.

00:35:01.000 Truth fact?

00:35:01.000 Truth fact.

00:35:02.000 That's not even close.

00:35:03.000 All right.

00:35:06.000 I don't need to be admonished as well.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, because you tattled on him.

00:35:10.000 No, no, we both do.

00:35:11.000 He corrected himself.

00:35:13.000 So let's go first claim. 0.90

00:35:15.000 Okay?

00:35:16.000 Claim.

00:35:19.000 I just hit an admonish.

00:35:24.000 You're a little bit trigger-happy for the admonish and not so much on doing your job.

00:35:29.000 Let's try this again.

00:35:31.000 First claim.

00:35:36.000 China is going to overtake the U.S. economy.

00:35:39.000 Just bet on it.

00:35:41.000 Well, I think China is a real interesting country, I have to say.

00:35:45.000 The thing to appreciate about China is just that there's a lot of really smart, really hardworking people there, and they're going to do a lot of great things.

00:35:59.000 This is sort of independent of Chinese government policy.

00:36:04.000 They're just going to do a lot of interesting things.

00:36:05.000 The thing that will feel pretty strange is that the Chinese economy is going to be probably at least twice as big as the U.S. economy.

00:36:18.000 Maybe three times, but at least twice.

00:36:22.000 Here's the truth.

00:36:27.000 Probably not.

00:36:29.000 So let me give you some numbers here on growth.

00:36:32.000 Since 1990, China has averaged about 9% annual growth.

00:36:35.000 Even two times, they were as high as 14%.

00:36:38.000 But in 2023, they struggled to meet the 5% growth target from the government.

00:36:44.000 And then in December, Xi banned a top Chinese economist from speaking after he actually questioned an official government report because he believed it was worse.

00:36:51.000 Here's what you also have to understand.

00:36:53.000 China can't move. 0.99

00:36:54.000 They can't transition to a consumption model.

00:36:57.000 They have a bunch of people who are effectively modern slaves, and they can create, they can support the goods and services that we need in a free enterprise society.

00:37:05.000 But at a certain point, these slaves are going to want to take part.

00:37:09.000 And for China to move to a consumption model, they would have to empower their own citizens to be able to have freedom of choice.

00:37:14.000 That's antithetical to the communist regime.

00:37:16.000 So the only way it happens is if the regime topples, or there's a civil war.

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:21.000 Especially with their social credit score, limiting what you can and can't purchase, where you can travel, that really constrains the economy.

00:37:28.000 It's never ended well.

00:37:29.000 It's never worked out long-term for a communist regime like that, no matter how hard they have tried.

00:37:33.000 I know that we've been told, no, no, no, they're getting it right now.

00:37:35.000 Well, okay.

00:37:36.000 We'll get through some of the propaganda in a little bit.

00:37:39.000 But some of the giant, by the way, builders like Evergrande, Country Garden, Sunak, they defaulted.

00:37:45.000 And part of the story is these developers actually pre-sold homes to pay off debt.

00:37:50.000 Never finished them.

00:37:52.000 This is rotten-tailed buildings, a term coined to describe unfinished homes in China, where towards the end of the construction, lack of funding causes the entire project to stop.

00:38:02.000 In a sense, it does look rotten.

00:38:04.000 But it's corruption at the core, where developers create Ponzi schemes to lure people to make down payments, and the fund is used to make more projects and bribe local officials.

00:38:13.000 When the money dries up, banks start asking people to pay, even if the buildings aren't done.

00:38:18.000 And contractors resort to subpart material or simply In 2022, a survey conducted found over 45% of homebuyers in China encountering this rotten-tail problem.

00:38:29.000 That means no elevators, running water, electricity, or gas.

00:38:35.000 Jeez.

00:38:36.000 Seems like kind of a big deal.

00:38:37.000 Paradise.

00:38:38.000 So if people are telling you in the media, oh yeah, they're going to be the second or third, or they're going to be two or three times the size of the American economy, and they don't fill you in on that information, what's the motive there?

00:38:51.000 Accuracy here matters.

00:38:53.000 Why would we want to demoralize the West?

00:38:55.000 Especially if it's not an inevitability.

00:38:57.000 The second claim you hear a lot, okay, is that, well, hold on, there's like 19 trillion.

00:39:05.000 It's just a sheer numbers game.

00:39:06.000 China has too many people. 0.96

00:39:08.000 they're going to overtake all other countries because so many Chinese. 1.00

00:39:13.000 So that assumes GDP per capita still less than the US.

00:39:18.000 But this is to have about four or five times the population, then it would only require getting to a GDP per capita of half the United States for their economy to be twice the size of ours.

00:39:34.000 And as I'm sure people in this room know, the foundation of war is economics.

00:39:41.000 Thanks.

00:39:42.000 And so if you have half the resources So, here's the truth.

00:39:57.000 China's demographics, actually, are terrible. 1.00

00:40:04.000 So, the total fertility rate of China, it's...

00:40:10.000 One of the lowest in the world.

00:40:12.000 To give you an idea, China in 2022 was one, meaning women have an average of one child. 0.96

00:40:16.000 In the United States, where we do have a birth rate problem, 1.7.

00:40:20.000 70% more.

00:40:22.000 And they're at a crest right now where it's really going to prove to be a problem, especially because it's an immoral, godless nation, despite what the Eastern gurus try and tell you, and they drowned plenty of their young girls in the bathtub. 0.83

00:40:34.000 Or left them on the mountain.

00:40:35.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:40:36.000 Bitch again to me about the United States and patriarchy. 1.00

00:40:40.000 2024, the population in China declined for the third straight years. 0.98

00:40:46.000 And that means you're going to see this pyramid where you have a shrinking work base and they have to support older people. 0.76

00:40:51.000 It's kind of like what you're seeing with Social Security because you had...

00:40:54.000 World War II, you had the baby boom generation, and the ratio now of retirees per workers, just the math doesn't add up.

00:41:00.000 No, it's crazy.

00:41:01.000 And by the way, they said that that's not just a blip.

00:41:03.000 That is going to be an accelerated trend in the future.

00:41:06.000 Yes, it is an accelerated trend because birth rates, fertility is low, and that's not going to be fixed when you also understand that people aren't getting married.

00:41:16.000 It's a shockingly honest proposal.

00:41:19.000 35-year-old Huo Yanbin is here looking for a wife.

00:41:22.000 His dating resume details his personality traits, political affiliation, job, and household registration.

00:41:29.000 It includes a blunt assessment of his situation.

00:41:32.000 Old male virgin seeking marriage. 0.99

00:41:35.000 Huo is among millions of people in China between the ages of 20 and 40 who have never married.

00:41:41.000 If you get married in China, it's almost 100% sure that the guy is going to buy the apartment.

00:41:49.000 So the girl doesn't buy her apart at all. 0.94

00:41:52.000 What if he cannot afford an apartment?

00:41:55.000 Then he cannot get married.

00:41:57.000 So this is the reality.

00:41:59.000 That last guy looks like Mowgli watched the Steve Jobs movie. 0.67

00:42:02.000 I want to look like that!

00:42:04.000 That could be me!

00:42:09.000 2024, marriages in China fell to their lowest since 1980. It's down over 20% year over year.

00:42:16.000 Also, that is the most Chinese way to try and get married that I could possibly imagine. 1.00

00:42:21.000 Look at my spreadsheet!

00:42:23.000 He had his political affiliations on there?

00:42:25.000 How could you have...

00:42:26.000 What is it?

00:42:28.000 China? 0.73

00:42:29.000 I mean, I thought there was only one party.

00:42:31.000 In the States, we have, like, looks maxing.

00:42:34.000 Guys like, you know, I'm not fine.

00:42:35.000 Get on a treadmill, go to the gym.

00:42:37.000 They're just like, look, I have deed to house.

00:42:40.000 I have good family.

00:42:42.000 I have good life.

00:42:43.000 I am a virgin, and I am a five or six tall.

00:42:45.000 You'll marry me.

00:42:46.000 Good business deal.

00:42:48.000 The only thing he's missing is a picture of him with a big fish.

00:42:51.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

00:42:52.000 And I have no job because I am here.

00:42:54.000 Just clearly a photoshopped enlarged sunfish.

00:42:57.000 Look at me, sunfish!

00:42:58.000 Sunfish!

00:42:59.000 Catch so many sunfish!

00:43:01.000 You marry me!

00:43:02.000 All the sunfish you can eat!

00:43:03.000 Now, I have an apartment.

00:43:06.000 No gas, no elevator.

00:43:08.000 But many cockroaches. 0.61

00:43:10.000 Now, young Chinese citizens actually find the idea of marriage too daunting.

00:43:16.000 For a number of social reasons, economic reasons, and the anxiety is rising in the nation of China.

00:43:24.000 That's the clip I just ran.

00:43:26.000 Oh, that's right?

00:43:27.000 Okay, sorry.

00:43:29.000 I can run it again.

00:43:30.000 We'll just run it for like two seconds.

00:43:34.000 It's a shock.

00:43:35.000 Okay, stop.

00:43:38.000 So the marriage rates are shrinking year over year, and that's not the only thing that's shrinking in China, as seen by this international chart.

00:43:45.000 Yep.

00:43:46.000 Oh, come on! 0.99

00:43:48.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:43:50.000 To be fair, you actually missed one on that.

00:43:53.000 What's that?

00:43:55.000 Just hit it.

00:43:57.000 Oh! 0.60

00:43:59.000 Well, I will say this.

00:44:01.000 The likeness is uncanny.

00:44:03.000 Well, I didn't even make the chart.

00:44:04.000 That's true.

00:44:05.000 I'm a nitty.

00:44:06.000 No one made the chart.

00:44:07.000 Someone must have taken a picture of me while I was napping.

00:44:10.000 I was in the pool!

00:44:12.000 No pool.

00:44:12.000 That's why he's all wrinkly.

00:44:14.000 No pool.

00:44:15.000 All Crowder. 0.99

00:44:16.000 All raisin.

00:44:17.000 Put that on my resume.

00:44:18.000 Marry me!

00:44:18.000 Butter like a raisin!

00:44:20.000 No prune!

00:44:21.000 Just a raisin! 1.00

00:44:25.000 Smaller than average penis. 1.00

00:44:26.000 It was the last line. 1.00

00:44:27.000 They call me sunmaid.

00:44:29.000 At least you're tan.

00:44:30.000 Here's another claim, the third claim that you're going to hear a lot in accepting the inevitable, that China is going to be the world's greatest. 0.51

00:44:37.000 And here's the thing.

00:44:38.000 It could be if we keep screwing up and propping them up.

00:44:42.000 They claim that our economy, the U.S. economy, and this is a given, is totally dependent on China.

00:44:48.000 While Trump brandishes the threat of tariffs like a bull with a bazooka in a China shop, nobody dares correct him on how they actually work.

00:44:56.000 Let's break it down in the simplest possible terms, taking tariffs aimed at China as the example.

00:45:03.000 Americans depend heavily on all kinds of products from China.

00:45:07.000 Smartphones, digital automation systems, toys, media transmission systems, lithium batteries, display monitors, computer parts and plastic goods, to name but a few.

00:45:17.000 Any tariffs on these Chinese goods will be paid by the American companies importing them.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, we're very dependent.

00:45:25.000 Well, here's the truth.

00:45:27.000 We don't have to be.

00:45:29.000 Donald Trump don't trust China. 1.00

00:45:31.000 China is a asshole. 1.00

00:45:32.000 So the people who tell you we are dependent on China understand that this is the result of bad policy as they continue to advocate. 1.00

00:45:40.000 For bad policy.

00:45:41.000 The solution is not to accept your new rulers.

00:45:44.000 In my opinion, you can comment below.

00:45:46.000 The solution is to put an end to bad policy.

00:45:50.000 So right now it is true the United States does rely on China for quite a few things.

00:45:53.000 So consumer electronics, Apple, for example.

00:45:55.000 They mentioned lithium.

00:45:58.000 Tesla obviously reliant on that with batteries.

00:45:59.000 Rare earth minerals for military applications.

00:46:03.000 Pharmaceuticals.

00:46:04.000 But...

00:46:04.000 This didn't just happen in a vacuum.

00:46:07.000 Washington is largely responsible for this.

00:46:10.000 They hamstrung the mining industry with all kinds of regulation here.

00:46:13.000 Not to mention, of course, allying with unions who give 99% of their donations to Democrats making production, manufacturing, unfeasible here in the United States.

00:46:21.000 So they then outsource for cheap labor.

00:46:23.000 And this was done under the false guise that China would moderate.

00:46:28.000 They'd become more moderate and they would come into the 21st century.

00:46:31.000 Well, we're not actually seeing that, and so it's time to change course.

00:46:35.000 Simple things that we could do.

00:46:36.000 I know you think this is reductive.

00:46:38.000 We could reshore some of the manufacturing.

00:46:42.000 We could use tariffs to force their behavior.

00:46:45.000 They're not going to become more moderate.

00:46:46.000 They're becoming more communist, more fascist.

00:46:50.000 Well, let's start with tariffs.

00:46:52.000 They need us more than we need them.

00:46:54.000 We can leverage some of the advantages that we have.

00:46:58.000 So we could have export controls on high-end technology like chips.

00:47:01.000 And not just us, but also use our allies, like Taiwan, for example.

00:47:05.000 We use that.

00:47:06.000 Guess what?

00:47:07.000 China has to play ball really, really quickly.

00:47:09.000 The De Minimis repeal.

00:47:11.000 Make that permanent.

00:47:12.000 That's where there's no tariffs on goods, I believe, under $800.

00:47:15.000 And they're shipping directly to U.S. customers.

00:47:17.000 Shipping directly to U.S. customers.

00:47:18.000 Different stuff with the idea.

00:47:20.000 Stuff.

00:47:20.000 Where they've stolen intellectual property and they just undercut the companies.

00:47:24.000 Fake goods, things like that.

00:47:25.000 Fake goods.

00:47:26.000 Can't control it.

00:47:26.000 Everything is tiny.

00:47:27.000 When you order it, be sure you actually get the measurements.

00:47:31.000 Seems like a personal experience here.

00:47:33.000 I have a whiteboard the size of a wallet that was meant for my kitchen for a grocery list.

00:47:38.000 I have basters that you can only use for a peanut.

00:47:42.000 Yes, exactly.

00:47:43.000 I got those too.

00:47:44.000 I got an Easy Bake Oven baster.

00:47:46.000 No joke, it was so tiny.

00:47:47.000 I'm like, what?

00:47:48.000 Is this what they use in China?

00:47:50.000 Oh, Temu!

00:47:51.000 It took three weeks to get there.

00:47:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:53.000 So those are things that we can do.

00:47:55.000 And by the way, Korea's been very successful in leveraging their chip advantage over China.

00:47:58.000 So it's not like this is something that's completely unprecedented.

00:48:01.000 Here's another one that you hear, another claim, right?

00:48:04.000 a myth that you will hear from those who seem to have a vested interest, and I'm sure we'll discover more in relation to their finances, as far as our public servants, where they will try and convince you, well, here's the thing, too.

00:48:15.000 I mean, you may think that we're better than China, but actually China is a very harmonious society, also crime-free, so maybe we should tear a page from China's book.

00:48:25.000 Do people feel free to work alone anywhere in America at any time of the day or night?

00:48:31.000 Do people have this freedom?

00:48:34.000 Well, this freedom, by and large, does exist in China.

00:48:37.000 The statistics are absolutely incredible.

00:48:39.000 You're 70 times more likely to be victim of a violent crime in the US than you are in China.

00:48:45.000 This is anecdotal, but in my seven years in China, not only have I never been a witness or, God forbid, victim of any crime, but I've never had anyone in my acquaintances who was.

00:48:57.000 It's a very, very safe country.

00:48:58.000 So this freedom from fear does exist.

00:49:03.000 Here's the truth.

00:49:06.000 None of that is true.

00:49:08.000 The CCP just lies.

00:49:12.000 So, a recent study found that up to 97.5% of all crime is not recorded.

00:49:21.000 Whoa.

00:49:22.000 Major killings go completely unreported, unheard of.

00:49:26.000 Just to be clear.

00:49:28.000 Why would someone be parroting this?

00:49:30.000 Well, I think that's a valid question, and usually you can follow the money trail.

00:49:34.000 Over just the last year, we've heard a ton of stories, by the way, of these killings, these attacks that are considered revenge against society attacks, in particular using vehicles.

00:49:44.000 Jeez. - Yes.

00:49:58.000 Ah, that's sad.

00:50:00.000 No crime. No crime. No crime.

00:50:22.000 Let's be like China. 0.99

00:50:23.000 No crime.

00:50:23.000 They have no crime.

00:50:24.000 Why do they have ambulances and police officers?

00:50:26.000 No crime.

00:50:31.000 2024, there were 19 attacks like the one that you just saw.

00:50:34.000 Four times the rate.

00:50:38.000 2023.

00:50:38.000 These are just the ones we know about.

00:50:40.000 Imagine what goes on where you don't have a perfectly positioned camera or the CCP doesn't get to that footage to destroy it before it makes its way out.

00:50:47.000 Or you have people like that...

00:50:49.000 Was that a priest, what it looked like?

00:50:51.000 Or some kind of a pastor?

00:50:53.000 Being threatened, essentially.

00:50:54.000 If you speak the truth about this stuff, you'll be kicked out of our country.

00:50:58.000 Go out and be a good shill for us.

00:50:59.000 Now, I wouldn't argue that there probably is lower overall crime because you have a society that is subservient, effectively, to their overlords.

00:51:07.000 They live in absolute fear and terror.

00:51:09.000 Also, there's an argument to be made that there are much harsher punishments if you commit violent crimes against white Western tourists because they want to keep up appearances.

00:51:17.000 You've all heard of, read about the Blazin' Saddles fake towns in North Korea when people visit.

00:51:23.000 That's pretty much all of China as it relates to their society and crime. 1.00

00:51:27.000 If anyone tells you that it's a harmonious society where people look out for their fellow neighbor, they're lying to you and you need to ask why and then question the premise that China is coming, China is coming.

00:51:38.000 So they do this around the world in places where big tourist zones, they actually put more police.

00:51:43.000 Of course.

00:51:43.000 Right?

00:51:43.000 They have tougher prohibitions.

00:51:45.000 In a place like China, if you really want to see, just go outside of a tourist. 0.75

00:51:48.000 Yes.

00:51:48.000 Go outside of a tourist area and see exactly how it is.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, exactly right.

00:51:52.000 Here's another claim.

00:51:53.000 I think we're in four or five that you will hear from the people who want to beat you into submission mentally.

00:52:00.000 They want you to simply give yourself over to the notion that we're all going to be speaking Mandarin within 20 years.

00:52:07.000 And they've been saying this really since the 90s, to be clear.

00:52:10.000 The claim they make is that, well, okay, not only are we reliant on China, not only do they have the population, but China is actually the world's biggest innovator.

00:52:20.000 that's tough to deal with.

00:52:21.000 The rise of Chinese AI chatbot DeepSeek has taken the world by storm. 0.96

00:52:26.000 But it's part of a wider trend.

00:52:29.000 Chinese apps are rising up the charts around the world.

00:52:32.000 TikTok, CapCut, Xi'an, Timu, to name a few.

00:52:37.000 And it's not just on our phones.

00:52:41.000 China is becoming dominant in many other areas of tech.

00:52:44.000 China is becoming dominant in many other areas of tech.

00:53:05.000 I don't understand what that was showing.

00:53:06.000 It was showing the face ID couldn't even tell him apart from other agencies, just like Apple struggled with.

00:53:13.000 Here's the truth.

00:53:16.000 Sure, China is the world's top innovator.

00:53:19.000 If by innovate, you mean steal tech and lie about it.

00:53:22.000 Donald Trump don't trust China! 1.00

00:53:24.000 China is a asshole! 1.00

00:53:26.000 Remember last month we covered this story and we said, well, the most likely scenario is they're lying about this. 1.00

00:53:30.000 Otherwise, this is going to change all of AI. But we erred on the side of they're lying about it.

00:53:36.000 DeepSeek, they claim they trained their AI model for, I think it was under $6 million.

00:53:41.000 95% less than anybody else on planet Earth.

00:53:44.000 And we thought, well, this would be a tectonic shift.

00:53:47.000 Well, there's been a new analysis.

00:53:49.000 Turns out the total cost was actually closer to $1.5 billion.

00:53:55.000 That is a huge difference.

00:53:57.000 If you're going to lie, why lie so big?

00:54:00.000 Make it big!

00:54:02.000 Because they knew that many in the media would carry the water and tell you, well, if China's doing this for six million and you look at these other companies, well, you just can't be competitive.

00:54:11.000 It's the Chinese.

00:54:12.000 They're coming.

00:54:13.000 The Chinese are coming. 1.00

00:54:14.000 The Chinese are coming. 1.00

00:54:15.000 It's not true.

00:54:16.000 Time and time again, these stories come out.

00:54:18.000 And they're quickly discovered to be lies.

00:54:22.000 This is not the first time this has happened.

00:54:23.000 Let me give you some other examples.

00:54:24.000 2023, you had propagandists.

00:54:25.000 They were lying about how Yahweh, Huawei, Huawei.

00:54:28.000 I can't say it right.

00:54:29.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:54:30.000 I don't like their silly language and stupid people. 1.00

00:54:34.000 Not the people, not the citizens, but the Communist Chinese Party. 1.00

00:54:36.000 Some of the citizens.

00:54:37.000 Now, 2023, they bragged about how Huawei, their new phone.

00:54:43.000 Was the first, I guess, domestic 7 nanometer chip.

00:54:46.000 This was like a big thing.

00:54:48.000 They said, Chinese scientists deliver a kung fu kick to the American imperialist nuts.

00:54:55.000 Huawei and SMIC, both under U.S. sanctions, have created 7 nanometer chips without the gear from Dutch firm ASML, which shamelessly obeyed the U.S. empire.

00:55:08.000 First off, isn't it always kind of funny when anything from China is calling the United States an empire?

00:55:13.000 Yes.

00:55:15.000 I mean, you actually did have that entire continent.

00:55:19.000 You had emperors.

00:55:22.000 This country here was founded on not having a king.

00:55:25.000 I just think it's funny.

00:55:27.000 And they tried to claim that export controls didn't hurt China.

00:55:30.000 Well, here's the reality.

00:55:32.000 Apple and TSMC, they've had 7nm chips since 2018. Oh.

00:55:38.000 And TSMC, they're already, as I understand it, manufacturing two nanometer chips, right?

00:55:42.000 Yes.

00:55:42.000 So they're light years ahead.

00:55:43.000 We've had this technology before.

00:55:45.000 And ASML, basically, this is one of those things that we can do to leverage our partners.

00:55:48.000 They are the company that makes the equipment that makes the chips.

00:55:51.000 They're the only company in the world that makes that equipment.

00:55:53.000 And we just be like, hey, just don't sell it to them.

00:55:55.000 Yeah.

00:55:55.000 Just don't give it to China.

00:55:56.000 It's almost like they're more reliant on us.

00:55:58.000 A little bit.

00:55:59.000 And our friends.

00:56:00.000 Yes.

00:56:00.000 We're talking about ASML, right?

00:56:02.000 ASML. I prefer the ASMR. Chinese ASMR? It's just, yeah. 1.00

00:56:07.000 Oh, yeah?

00:56:09.000 Tiny feet?

00:56:11.000 Did you get tiny besta, I said?

00:56:13.000 Tiny besta? 0.96

00:56:14.000 Tiny feet?

00:56:15.000 Oh, so sexy.

00:56:16.000 Now, the sound of a Chinese lady slurping noodles. 0.97

00:56:19.000 Yes.

00:56:20.000 Oh, you will only have a baby boy.

00:56:23.000 No girl. 0.99

00:56:24.000 Just a baby boy.

00:56:25.000 Start banging pans together.

00:56:30.000 Here's another example.

00:56:32.000 In January of 2024, Chinese military officials, they were reportedly caught stealing rocket fuel, replacing it with water.

00:56:39.000 Are you serious?

00:56:40.000 I tried that trick of my parents' vodka, and it did not work.

00:56:43.000 No, it did not work.

00:56:45.000 They lie about everything.

00:56:48.000 Right?

00:56:48.000 So this idea, they're the ones holding the economic, well, no, that's not true.

00:56:51.000 That they have the birthright, they have the population.

00:56:53.000 Well, no, that's not true.

00:56:55.000 That they are the innovators.

00:56:56.000 No, that's not true.

00:56:58.000 That we are completely reliant.

00:56:59.000 Maybe a little bit, but that's because we've decided to go with bad policy, and bad policy can be changed.

00:57:05.000 And the one that really bothers me is if they're trying to tell you that China is in any way a better or more functional society.

00:57:12.000 Even discounting the idea of basic freedom, which is kind of foundational to us.

00:57:17.000 A little bit.

00:57:17.000 Just at the metrics, it's not true.

00:57:20.000 It's not accurate.

00:57:21.000 And if people are trying to sell you that bill of goods, you have to ask why.

00:57:25.000 Because we have gone along with it.

00:57:27.000 By that, I mean our public servants, both Democrat and Republicans, even people out there who claim to be conservatives, they've gone along with this for a very long time.

00:57:36.000 There's really been only one voice in my lifetime that has spoken up against this.

00:57:42.000 boldly, made it known, and has pointed out that the emperor has no clothes, and this very well may be a paper tiger.

00:57:49.000 I like China.

00:58:14.000 I'm going to instruct my Treasury Secretary to label China a currency manipulator, the greatest in the world. 0.96

00:58:24.000 China's defaulted with us because if you look at what they're doing with intellectual property, $300 billion a year.

00:58:31.000 I mean, you look at what they're doing with the way they steal our intellectual property, our intellectual rights.

00:58:37.000 I mean, it's...

00:58:39.000 It's crazy what they're doing.

00:58:40.000 Why do you keep using this?

00:58:42.000 A lot of people say it's racist.

00:58:44.000 It's not racist at all, no.

00:58:45.000 Not at all.

00:58:46.000 It comes from China.

00:58:47.000 You know, 70% of the signage on the Panama Canal was written in Chinese.

00:58:53.000 That's not right.

00:58:54.000 It wasn't meant for China. 1.00

00:58:56.000 We would kick their ass. 1.00

00:58:57.000 it's not true. 1.00

00:58:58.000 One voice.

00:59:05.000 Yes!

00:59:05.000 In our lifetime, one voice.

00:59:07.000 And he was the voice of all the economists of this guy.

00:59:09.000 He has no idea what he's talking about. 1.00

00:59:10.000 He's a moron. 1.00

00:59:11.000 And now they have to play catch-up. 1.00

00:59:12.000 This administration with Doge is moving so fast, the left doesn't even know.

00:59:16.000 They don't know what to vilify anymore.

00:59:18.000 It was like, oh, hold on a second.

00:59:19.000 They want to take away your reproductive rights. 1.00

00:59:20.000 And it was, oh, they want to hide the IRS. And now they're going like, oh, I don't know.

00:59:23.000 Something about a mine shaft?

00:59:27.000 It's fun.

00:59:28.000 They really don't know what to do.

00:59:29.000 And I want to see the same thing happen with China.

00:59:31.000 I want to see China have to scramble the way our federal government has had to scramble. 0.99

00:59:35.000 Because it's time to...

00:59:37.000 Let's take the wool off from over our eyes and ask why.

00:59:41.000 Why has everyone been pushing this?

00:59:42.000 So let's open this to a roundtable.

00:59:43.000 We're going to have Tim Pool actually on the show in just a little bit.

00:59:46.000 Major announcement that he is signed with Rumble.

00:59:48.000 Yeah.

00:59:49.000 And we'll...

00:59:53.000 I don't know if we can say that anymore.

00:59:57.000 I think we have a stinger for him.

00:59:59.000 We do.

01:00:03.000 It's a prop gun.

01:00:06.000 I was really hoping it would be more of like, you know, the K-pop song, but, you know.

01:00:12.000 There we go.

01:00:13.000 Perfect.

01:00:18.000 We're going to the club.

01:00:20.000 That's basically what it's saying, right?

01:00:21.000 Sort of.

01:00:22.000 That's the vibe.

01:00:23.000 Whenever he walks to the office, someone plays...

01:00:25.000 You actually lived...

01:00:29.000 Was it in Beijing?

01:00:30.000 Yeah, I did live in Beijing for about half a year.

01:00:32.000 Tried to do my master's program there.

01:00:34.000 How was it?

01:00:35.000 Why'd they kick you out?

01:00:36.000 They didn't kick me out.

01:00:37.000 It was funny enough, it was in 2018 when Trump started that initial trade war when I was there.

01:00:42.000 It was October of that year.

01:00:44.000 You really saw the tea leaves start to change because there was a...

01:00:48.000 Like you said, before Trump really took the wool off people's eyes, there was this idea that China and America were going to be friendly towards each other.

01:00:54.000 It would be harmonious.

01:00:55.000 China was going to continue to grow.

01:00:57.000 We would just have to deal with it.

01:00:58.000 But that's okay, because we'd be...

01:00:59.000 And then Trump stopped that in his tracks.

01:01:01.000 Well, you started seeing the way they treated foreigners change drastically.

01:01:05.000 The repression get much more serious.

01:01:07.000 And I remember one time in...

01:01:09.000 I asked one of the professors, and all these professors were very influential in government policymaking.

01:01:14.000 Great, nice people, but he said to me, I'm sorry, I can't address your question as a member of the Chinese Communist Party.

01:01:19.000 Really?

01:01:20.000 Yes.

01:01:21.000 Did you have a follow-up?

01:01:22.000 I said, understood, not trying to get Otto Warmbierd, and so I left the country shortly after and went to Korea.

01:01:29.000 Were you taller than that?

01:01:30.000 Wow, that was it?

01:01:31.000 Yeah, except the Mongolians. 0.96

01:01:34.000 They're tall people.

01:01:35.000 Well, that's the Asiatic Russians, too.

01:01:37.000 It's that whole thing.

01:01:37.000 So, do you think they're going to be the next great superpower?

01:01:40.000 Do you think it's inevitable?

01:01:40.000 Or do you think what determines it is more so our policy and approach?

01:01:46.000 Absolutely.

01:01:46.000 I think all of the description that you gave in there is completely accurate in your assessment of us allowing it to happen.

01:01:54.000 And I couldn't agree with more.

01:01:55.000 The thing about them being a paper tiger, I would slightly push back upon only because our policies failed so long that it allowed them to become not the paper tiger.

01:02:04.000 You see the moves that they're making and a really interesting graph just came out.

01:02:09.000 if it was The Economist or somebody, but it showed countries around the world that supported China's full annexation of Taiwan by any means.

01:02:16.000 Yeah.

01:02:16.000 Almost all of South America and Africa agreed with it.

01:02:19.000 Really?

01:02:20.000 That's only because we have let them make inroads into these continents and these countries for the last 20 years.

01:02:26.000 Well, the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:02:27.000 Through the Belt and Road and through, yeah, any sorts of loans and diplomatic outreach.

01:02:31.000 So, yeah, I think that they have amassed a great deal of power that they are...

01:02:37.000 Probably going to use because of what you said.

01:02:40.000 I think they are getting more dangerous because they are seeing that they're reaching the peak of their abilities with the demographic problems, with the economic problems.

01:02:48.000 Well, I remember we talked about this when the Ukraine war started, where we kind of had a little bit of a disagreement, where I don't know if it was you or Geraldson, well, the Chinese and Russians are not good bedfellows. 1.00

01:02:58.000 I said, you might see that start to form, and we've definitely seen it since, where it's been an unlikely alliance and might embolden them quite a bit.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, and even within that relationship itself, which, you know, up until the last 10, 20 years, Russia would have clearly worn the pants in that relationship. 0.56

01:03:13.000 Now it's China manipulating Russia, China allowing or not allowing Russia to do certain things, because Russia has become dependent upon them.

01:03:21.000 Sort of the way we've let our own economy become dependent upon them through bad policymaking.

01:03:25.000 We've almost forced it.

01:03:27.000 We've almost forced ourselves to become reliant.

01:03:28.000 And yeah, I mean, for example, we use the example, we weren't able to get the amount of mugs that we needed from.

01:03:34.000 An American company.

01:03:35.000 It wasn't possible.

01:03:36.000 So we can have them etched, and we had them painted here.

01:03:39.000 There wasn't anyone who could provide the kind of raw materials that we needed, where that's not really a choice of a company.

01:03:44.000 Small companies have to use what's available to them, and unfortunately, it's been the result of policy.

01:03:47.000 Let me ask you this, though.

01:03:49.000 When you talk about power, do we think it's important, though, to separate the CCP and the people? 0.72

01:03:54.000 I've heard quite a few, and I can't prove this because no one's going to study this empirically, that a lot of the citizens are fed up that if they have children who come here to universities, some of them are trying to send all their money to the states, and as soon as they can, get their tiny asses over here.

01:04:08.000 They're not necessarily loyal to China, whereas there used to be a greater sense of that.

01:04:12.000 Yeah, and I think you can really see that.

01:04:15.000 If you're online terminally, as I am, if you look at the China propagandists, they're always saying about how great China is to live in.

01:04:21.000 I retort with why are there so many Chinese trying to illegally cross the border to get into our country and not vice versa? 0.98

01:04:27.000 Because there is a lot of disillusionment with the government.

01:04:30.000 But the government has figured out how to preclude revolution by making sure people have enough money through economic growth.

01:04:38.000 Now that the economic growth is starting to fizzle out, I do think you're going to start to see You know, the revenge against society attacks, the more willingness to push back against the government.

01:04:48.000 But I think that's only going to, you know, encourage the government to repress even harder the 90s, like continuum and square sort of situation.

01:04:56.000 So, kind of on that same track with the economy not doing as well, that obviously probably would hamper their ability to be spending so much money around the world on these development projects and these partnerships.

01:05:07.000 Do you think the rest of the world that they've been kind of buying the loyalty from, kind of like the Panama Canal thing, the United States steps back in, Immediately an announcement comes out that they're not going to renew the 2017 agreement that they had with them for the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:05:19.000 Do you think that kind of destabilizes them a bit as well?

01:05:21.000 I would say to a certain extent, certainly, because if they have less economic means to pursue projects, yes, they're going to pull back.

01:05:29.000 But a lot of these economic projects are just kind of aimed at getting conciliatory measures from these countries.

01:05:37.000 Giving them huge loans that they're never going to be able to pay back, basically just so they can occupy territory.

01:05:43.000 But they can't do that forever.

01:05:44.000 No, they can't.

01:05:44.000 But you see very clearly in the policymaking right now that the CCP views security and national security above economic growth.

01:05:52.000 So they will use repression where they don't have money or where the middle class isn't growing as much.

01:05:58.000 And I do think that's going to come to a headwind because look at what happened with Japan. 1.00

01:06:05.000 They found themselves in a very similar position that China feels that they are in right now and that caused them to act very, you know...

01:06:13.000 I would say, not out of pocket, I guess that's what the kids say, but...

01:06:16.000 Contrary to their own interests.

01:06:18.000 I mean, no, they thought that was their best interest.

01:06:20.000 It was a bad calculation after Adam was figuring out...

01:06:23.000 Which is crazy, because it's an Asian country, you'd think they'd make better calculations. 1.00

01:06:27.000 Yeah, they're good at that.

01:06:27.000 If they don't, we don't have a shot.

01:06:29.000 Let me ask you this, though, because you lived there for a year, and I know you've also...

01:06:32.000 Half a year.

01:06:32.000 Half a year, but you also lived in Australia.

01:06:34.000 You spent a lot of time in Asia, societally.

01:06:38.000 What is culture like there in China?

01:06:40.000 Because sometimes people are surprised.

01:06:42.000 And I know when I was young, I thought, okay, everyone has to fake when Kim Jong-il died.

01:06:46.000 They have to fake as though they're sad because they don't want to be, you know, taken on a helicopter ride.

01:06:51.000 But some of those people in North Korea actually do believe that he's a deity and that he can read their thoughts and he got 11 holes in one in his first golf round.

01:07:01.000 People in China, do they buy into it? 0.99

01:07:03.000 Are they loyal to the CCP or are they disenfranchised?

01:07:09.000 I would say there is a healthy disenfranchisement among a large...

01:07:12.000 I don't want to say majority, but a large number of the population.

01:07:15.000 But what the CCP has done very well at is over the last 10, 20 years, and especially since Xi Jinping took power, is ingraining this nationalist sentiment.

01:07:25.000 of the rest of the world is the one trying to hold you down.

01:07:28.000 We are the only people that can protect you.

01:07:30.000 And if you look at our historic right, for most of the world's history, we were the powerful country.

01:07:35.000 And look at what all these Western powers have done to you over the last hundred years.

01:07:38.000 That's over.

01:07:39.000 And I think that does resonate with a lot of those people because it's kind of the opposite of what we've been doing in our school systems for so long.

01:07:46.000 We were the oppressor.

01:07:48.000 We're the bad guy.

01:07:48.000 If you look at England, I think we sent in that poll a couple weeks or a couple days ago that like 11%, correct me if I'm wrong, only 11% would fight for Britain and less than half felt proud to be British.

01:07:59.000 I'm willing to bet in China that's much higher because the indoctrination has been quite successful. 0.95

01:08:04.000 Yeah, I would be willing to bet that it's higher as far as people who are proud, but I would also be willing to bet that the people who are willing to fight against that for some type of revolution is significantly higher than in Western nations too.

01:08:13.000 You kind of have to pick a side.

01:08:16.000 Yeah, I guess there's also probably a big fear, if you look back at the history of Chinese civil conflict, how many people have died.

01:08:22.000 That's true.

01:08:22.000 Well, it doesn't typically go well.

01:08:24.000 It doesn't go well.

01:08:25.000 So really quickly, just a quick update.

01:08:27.000 Tim Pool is actually going to come on just a little bit earlier, so just about six or seven more minutes, so hang out for that.

01:08:33.000 But on this front, you saw it with Russia.

01:08:35.000 Russia kind of experimented with kind of freedom, and immediately the people went back to what was uncomfortable but at least familiar and secure, which was, okay, well, at least the government fed me.

01:08:46.000 At least the government made sure I had a house.

01:08:47.000 At least the government made sure XYZ happened. 0.79

01:08:49.000 Yes, there were shortages that we had to deal with, and life wasn't great, but it's better than the unknown that you're kind of going into.

01:08:56.000 So as far as social conflict goes, I don't see them running towards freedom.

01:09:00.000 I see them running to another form of authoritarianism.

01:09:02.000 It's very rare for the Western liberalism to work outside of Western liberal things.

01:09:08.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 Outside of, essentially, Europe and North America.

01:09:11.000 The only places that that has really worked, I would venture to argue, are places like Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

01:09:18.000 Right.

01:09:18.000 But that's because the United States stayed there indefinitely to make sure they got it.

01:09:23.000 Yes.

01:09:23.000 And that was only after long, long periods of authoritarian rule.

01:09:27.000 Yes.

01:09:27.000 So, yeah, I'm with you.

01:09:29.000 I don't know if, without an occupation by Western forces, and I'm not saying that is something that...

01:09:35.000 No, no, no.

01:09:36.000 I don't advocate that at all.

01:09:38.000 I would love to see the CCP fall, but if you look at what the CCP is, it's basically just the latest iteration of whatever dynasty came before it.

01:09:46.000 And communism is something that they sort of, they say, socialism with Chinese characteristics.

01:09:52.000 It's not.

01:09:52.000 It's just authoritarianism with government control over what they want to control.

01:09:55.000 Yeah.

01:09:56.000 So really, we come back to the same solution.

01:09:57.000 The only solution is for the United States to enact better policy, that we use our leverage, because if our liberal Western ideas won't work in China, basically, okay, it works for us, and we need to cripple the government of China, and that certainly is feasible. 0.74

01:10:10.000 Like, it doesn't take that many policy changes to have an impact.

01:10:13.000 No, and the one thing I did want to touch on, I completely agree with everything you said. 0.98

01:10:17.000 Well, don't talk about Chinese butts. 0.99

01:10:18.000 No. 0.98

01:10:19.000 Oh, did you see that almost half of Asian American women voted Republican?

01:10:24.000 Oh, very nice.

01:10:25.000 I knew I was on to something.

01:10:26.000 There you go.

01:10:27.000 You got a good pool.

01:10:28.000 But speaking of Trump, I think in agri, he's done very good things.

01:10:33.000 In regards to China, I do worry about his association with Elon Musk when it comes to that because of his market exposure and also just the way that he's talked about China.

01:10:40.000 But also, the de minimis thing kind of trips me up.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, because that happened.

01:10:44.000 He put that in place and we're like, alright, that's a good move.

01:10:46.000 They're saying it's a logistical thing because too many packages were piling up at the border.

01:10:50.000 I don't know.

01:10:50.000 I want to see him make that permanent.

01:10:52.000 But then you see certain appointments like in the State Department.

01:10:55.000 I think Darren Beatty was appointed to a senior position under Rubio.

01:10:58.000 And that guy has said...

01:11:00.000 Full force.

01:11:00.000 Taiwan will be absorbed by China.

01:11:03.000 Not to mention Bergam.

01:11:05.000 Yeah, Doug Bergam.

01:11:06.000 We all felt like, ah, he's funny, kind of a Muppet looking.

01:11:08.000 And then when you look into him, we're like, ooh, this guy is hardline for China, it seems like.

01:11:13.000 Correct.

01:11:13.000 So I'm not necessarily as worried about Donald Trump because he's been pretty...

01:11:16.000 Before he even ran for president.

01:11:17.000 You can see him on late night shows in the 90s and on The View talking about the problem with China.

01:11:22.000 So let me pose this.

01:11:24.000 Maybe Donald Trump is trying to split the difference a little bit here because you've kind of... 0.98

01:11:28.000 Pointed out, and we pointed out in the show, the demographics suck for them. 0.99

01:11:30.000 The economy isn't moving in the right direction for them.

01:11:32.000 They're not going to be able to spend as much money around the world.

01:11:35.000 Repression looks like their only option if they start to run out of funds at home.

01:11:39.000 If we go in and start crippling China... 0.98

01:11:42.000 They do have enough of a military where the calculation might become, well, it's kind of like Japan.

01:11:47.000 Well, if we don't strike now, we never will be able to strike.

01:11:51.000 And do something to reset the balance of power.

01:11:53.000 Correct.

01:11:53.000 Xi Jinping is getting old.

01:11:55.000 Their economy is running out of steam.

01:11:56.000 There's a lot of indicators that say if we're going to do something, we need to do it now.

01:11:59.000 So maybe a soft landing is what they're really trying to achieve.

01:12:02.000 I do think we need to make it very clear to them if they do anything, it will not go well for them.

01:12:06.000 And that starts with...

01:12:08.000 Trump does that.

01:12:08.000 He does.

01:12:08.000 He does that, so that's great.

01:12:10.000 But then he turns around and says we're going to...

01:12:14.000 What?

01:12:18.000 Great in theory, except nobody else makes those in the world, and they also have companies in America building them for us.

01:12:24.000 That was a weird one.

01:12:25.000 I would just like to see a little bit more consistency, but overall...

01:12:29.000 A market improvement from the last 50 years.

01:12:32.000 Well, since Clinton.

01:12:33.000 He's the only one who's taken a hard stance on that.

01:12:35.000 And I think that's a big reason for, I mean, not that I'm pro-union, but the support of a lot of union representatives and people because they were always furious about NAFTA, about TPP. And here we are.

01:12:45.000 This is the first time that a Republican, first time any president and it's a Republican saying these were horrible deals. 0.65

01:12:49.000 The idea of modernization theory, if you open up these markets into Western products and trade and ideas they're going to moderate, like Bill Clinton said and George W. Bush thought, When they put him in the WTO, it's stupid, it's wrong, and Trump saw that in the 1990s, and he's as good as we could have hoped for at this point.

01:13:07.000 Yeah, well, and I hope that we start using the leverage that we do have.

01:13:09.000 I do believe with the de minimis thing, also it ended up affecting packages not just from China.

01:13:14.000 Correct.

01:13:14.000 There was a slowdown.

01:13:15.000 A slowdown for everybody.

01:13:16.000 I had a package coming from Sweden for something, and it couldn't come in, they couldn't ship it.

01:13:21.000 So I think it's more so about dealing with those logistics.

01:13:23.000 I hope so.

01:13:23.000 Hopefully Doge can, where it's like, okay, we want this to only affect...

01:13:26.000 Chinese goods.

01:13:27.000 I don't think he's necessarily changing his opinion.

01:13:30.000 It was meant to help developing countries grow their economy, like a Kenya or something.

01:13:35.000 Like a Chinese Etsy. 0.97

01:13:37.000 Not the second largest economy in the world that has a nuclear triad.

01:13:41.000 What are we talking about?

01:13:42.000 If someone wants to order a cup holder or something from Etsy, someone out there in Beijing, it's like, yeah, alright, that's fine.

01:13:48.000 But then you realize everything is just being ripped off of American companies.

01:13:51.000 Have you gone on Amazon lately?

01:13:54.000 I was looking for An aerosol sprayer that you could fill with something for when we use cigars here that will create nanoparticles, a really, really fine mist.

01:14:03.000 Okay.

01:14:03.000 There were 50 bottles that were the exact same with different company names and a price difference of four cents here, six cents there, bunch of reviews with bad grammar.

01:14:13.000 It's about gaming the system and screwing the American consumer. 0.98

01:14:16.000 And I think at a certain point, you know.

01:14:18.000 That's going to come to a head.

01:14:19.000 All right.

01:14:20.000 Lay in the brain, we really appreciate it.

01:14:21.000 Thanks for all the work today.

01:14:22.000 And we do have Tim Poole coming on.

01:14:25.000 So you go when he comes in.

01:14:28.000 All right.

01:14:32.000 Do we have the man of the hour?

01:14:34.000 Do we have him?

01:14:35.000 The man of the hour.

01:14:36.000 Really, the man of the day.

01:14:38.000 Yeah.

01:14:38.000 Major announcement.

01:14:39.000 It was made last night.

01:14:41.000 I've known about it for a little while, and you know I'm horrible at keeping secrets.

01:14:44.000 I was like, Gerald, you can't tell anyone?

01:14:48.000 Okay, fine.

01:14:49.000 But, tell me.

01:14:50.000 Tim Pool is signing with Rumble Premium, so let's bring on Tim Pool right now!

01:14:58.000 Mr. Pool, first name, Tim.

01:15:02.000 How are you, sir?

01:15:03.000 I'm good.

01:15:04.000 How are you?

01:15:04.000 I'm doing fine, except I'm an invalid.

01:15:06.000 I have an old man back pillow here.

01:15:09.000 So, yeah.

01:15:11.000 We're getting about that point.

01:15:13.000 Major announcement!

01:15:15.000 How long has this been in the works, and what made you decide to make this move to Rumble?

01:15:21.000 Because you have a huge, not only subscribership, but obviously a huge media company.

01:15:25.000 This really makes Rumble Premium ground zero for a lineup, and it's no small catch.

01:15:31.000 What was the catalyst?

01:15:34.000 The easy thing, simply, is we were entering renegotiations on ad sales and things like this, which opened the door.

01:15:40.000 And this is like the real flat business element of it.

01:15:43.000 Oh, hey, we're in negotiations again.

01:15:45.000 Our term with our existing sales are up.

01:15:47.000 And this allowed us to have a deeper conversation with guys over at Rumble over how we can be bigger and better than we currently are.

01:15:55.000 So it's a massive win-win across the board for all of our members for our Rumble Premium.

01:16:00.000 And the big picture was...

01:16:02.000 We want to make feature-length documentaries.

01:16:03.000 We want to make behind-the-scenes sports content.

01:16:05.000 We want to do more than we're doing now.

01:16:07.000 And the challenge we run into every step of the way is we are an island.

01:16:11.000 You know, it's Timcast IRL in the morning show, and it funds everything else.

01:16:15.000 And so the conversation that we've had internally that I've had is you can only just be some wandering rogue in the forest for so long.

01:16:23.000 We have to be part of something bigger.

01:16:25.000 So that, you know, in the event of censorship, you have support network, you have a marketing network, you have access to more events.

01:16:33.000 When we're trying to set up events, we want to do maybe like, hey, we want to do a big behind-the-scenes sports thing.

01:16:38.000 Who do we reach out to?

01:16:39.000 How do we do this?

01:16:40.000 Teaming up with Rumble opened the door for a lot of new possibilities in content development, access to new audiences, and it's just a massive win-win for all of us.

01:16:50.000 I'll give you some just real simple nitty-gritty stuff.

01:16:53.000 It cuts our infrastructure costs down.

01:16:55.000 That's an easy one.

01:16:56.000 But the most important thing for me was we've been on Rumble for a while.

01:17:03.000 We've been posting our videos here.

01:17:05.000 But it's been difficult to run a company just totally by myself.

01:17:10.000 Obviously now I'm married.

01:17:12.000 Allison helps run.

01:17:13.000 She basically does all the administrative stuff.

01:17:15.000 So she helps run the company on the administrative side.

01:17:18.000 And we were basically having this discussion of we're not going to be able to grow beyond where we are as a mom-and-pop shop.

01:17:22.000 We have to join with people who have access, infrastructure, abilities, so that we can make more and be a bigger company.

01:17:29.000 And that's the simplest form of it.

01:17:32.000 So we teamed up.

01:17:33.000 We've got our green room show, which is when the guests show up and we're recording behind the scenes and having that conversation, which is raw and unfiltered, on Rumble Premium.

01:17:42.000 The Timcast IRL Uncensored show where we take callers from our Discord server is now Rumble Premium as well.

01:17:49.000 We just started yesterday.

01:17:49.000 We're going to be – our goal is for eight full-length documentaries over the next two years.

01:17:56.000 It's going to be a big lift.

01:17:57.000 So we may not get there, but we're definitely going to be working on more.

01:17:59.000 And then we've got – we're going to do some comedy stuff next week.

01:18:03.000 Not nearly as good as you guys, of course, but we're going to be working on sports, comedy, gaming, etc.

01:18:07.000 Yeah.

01:18:07.000 Well, that's the one thing, too.

01:18:08.000 There's a lot of opportunity there at Rumble because it's not just politics.

01:18:11.000 But remember, people used to say, why don't you go create your own YouTube?

01:18:14.000 Right?

01:18:15.000 I mean, I've been here since 2008. And it's like, okay, that can't...

01:18:18.000 But now there actually is an alternative.

01:18:19.000 There actually is a viable alternative.

01:18:20.000 I know YouTube is still this huge leviathan.

01:18:22.000 We understand that.

01:18:24.000 But especially after election night.

01:18:25.000 And from people watching right now, I mean, there is something to be said for you.

01:18:29.000 You and I talked about this.

01:18:31.000 Gosh, I don't know if it was a couple years ago.

01:18:32.000 At some point, there's going to be tip jar fatigue and subscription fatigue where everyone has a Patreon and everyone has a GoFundMe and now where you used to just have maybe Amazon Prime and Netflix and a creator, then it's like Amazon Prime, Netflix, Peacock, Paramount, Max, even though you don't get Westworld, but you get Chris Wallace.

01:18:47.000 Now you need Hulu.

01:18:48.000 Now you need all of these different subscriptions and it's hard to keep track of content.

01:18:52.000 You know, we always wanted to grow into something where it wasn't just, you know, we have Mug Club and a very large, loyal subscriber base, which has sort of insulated us from being canceled.

01:19:01.000 But we always wanted to make sure that those people wouldn't feel like they have to decide between multiple creators that they like.

01:19:07.000 And being able to get all of this additional content now, where it's basically a lineup, the likes of which really hasn't been seen anywhere else.

01:19:13.000 That's what, you know, excites me from that perspective, from the consumer, knowing that you're here and everyone will have access to you.

01:19:19.000 Here's something that was cool.

01:19:20.000 Last night, we did our first uncensored call-in show on Rebel Premium.

01:19:24.000 We had around 13,000 people watching.

01:19:27.000 And this is the after show, right?

01:19:30.000 Right.

01:19:31.000 We ended up hitting 72,000 concurrent viewers, which is above average for us.

01:19:36.000 We ended up getting nearly 40% more.

01:19:39.000 Actually, no, I think it was like 70% more views on the episode than we normally get.

01:19:44.000 Maybe that's just the big announcement everybody wanted to watch.

01:19:47.000 But we really do think viewership is going to increase from this.

01:19:49.000 But the coolest thing was in the uncensored call-in show, a bunch of the chats that were coming in were people saying, we're Mug Club and we're now watching Timcast.

01:19:57.000 Yeah.

01:19:57.000 And so easily for us, it's like, oh, OK, so more people are watching my show now.

01:20:01.000 That's cool.

01:20:02.000 You know, so joining a network is just, yes, this is what you're talking about with the network.

01:20:07.000 The people who watch my show who maybe aren't familiar with you are now going to be exposed to your content.

01:20:11.000 And this is going to help build a sphere of influence that I think is better.

01:20:15.000 Morally.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, well, I think so, too.

01:20:18.000 And the thing is, too, with Rump, everyone out there knows, you know, Chris has actually flipped the bird to the government.

01:20:22.000 Like, you know, he's a guy who's actually, you know, he's certainly been forged in the fire.

01:20:25.000 No one can question his free speech credentials.

01:20:28.000 And we're all under an umbrella where we don't all agree on everything.

01:20:31.000 Like, it doesn't matter.

01:20:32.000 It really doesn't.

01:20:33.000 Whereas a lot of these other networks that kind of previously existed were top-down.

01:20:36.000 That's not the case here.

01:20:38.000 I mean, I only knew about it because Chris told me.

01:20:40.000 And then I reached out to you.

01:20:41.000 I was like, hey, that's great.

01:20:42.000 I don't have a say in anything that you do.

01:20:43.000 You don't have a say in what I do.

01:20:45.000 But hey, people out there can watch all of it and not have to go through five, six, seven different payment systems.

01:20:51.000 That's always what we wanted.

01:20:52.000 We wanted to, you know, I'm not going to do this forever.

01:20:55.000 And I want other people, you know, we need to be building a bench too.

01:20:58.000 And hopefully other creators will see that.

01:20:59.000 But the biggest thing was the cost.

01:21:03.000 I think people leaving YouTube.

01:21:05.000 The opportunity cost where they were concerned about viewership.

01:21:07.000 This hopefully solves that problem for creators, or at least helps, and it certainly solves some issues for the viewer out there.

01:21:14.000 I know that's a big complaint that people are like, ah, I just, you know, $99 is a lot of money to people, and when you add that up over the course of the year with a bunch of different subscriptions, hey man, like, we gotta give them something.

01:21:24.000 Gotta give them their money's worth.

01:21:26.000 And you know what's changing too, is Spotify launched streaming podcasts a while ago.

01:21:31.000 Yeah.

01:21:32.000 There's this weird world where advertisers are playing catch-up with how they buy ads.

01:21:37.000 And most of these big networks, right?

01:21:39.000 So I was saying, we're negotiating contracts with a bunch of different networks that do ad sales.

01:21:43.000 And we have some internal.

01:21:44.000 They're all saying, podcast, podcast, downloads, downloads.

01:21:48.000 But all of a sudden, with the Trump victory and the podcast presidency, they started going, YouTube.

01:21:53.000 Ooh, YouTube.

01:21:54.000 And I said, what about YouTube?

01:21:55.000 These guys are saying, we want to sell against YouTube now.

01:21:59.000 And I said, when we sold audio podcast ad reads, you never came to us and said, you want to sell Apple, you want to sell Spotify, you want to sell Google Podcasts.

01:22:09.000 You literally just said, whatever your downloads are for the podcast, we don't care what platform it's on.

01:22:15.000 So what's changed now with Spotify going video is when these companies came to us, I said, you mean streams versus audio?

01:22:21.000 You mean streams versus downloads?

01:22:23.000 And they would go, what's that?

01:22:24.000 I said, you guys are playing catch-up.

01:22:27.000 Spotify's doing video now.

01:22:29.000 Rumble has video.

01:22:30.000 YouTube has video.

01:22:32.000 We don't single out, hey look, on Apple I get this many views, would you like to buy our Apple spot?

01:22:38.000 We say, we have a show, we have an audio and a video.

01:22:41.000 YouTube, Rumble, Spotify account for video streams as one lump package.

01:22:45.000 We say, we average $600,000.

01:22:47.000 You can buy ads against that.

01:22:49.000 That's where I think things are changing and people need to realize.

01:22:51.000 That if you're not approaching your Rumble viewership for us, which is substantial, you're just throwing a bunch of money in the garbage.

01:22:59.000 So now, and I've said this for a long time, if you're starting a new show, YouTube is not the place to go.

01:23:05.000 And I'm not trying to be biased.

01:23:07.000 Obviously, we did deal with Rumble, but I have literally said this for years.

01:23:10.000 And the reason is, you can't get monetized.

01:23:13.000 YouTube, you're suppressing the algorithm.

01:23:15.000 You're beaten down.

01:23:16.000 Certain opinions are not allowed.

01:23:18.000 Rumble is a new, exciting space, which is more like working with a...

01:23:22.000 Although it is massive.

01:23:24.000 When I have a problem, I can actually talk to somebody at Rumble, and we can work through it.

01:23:28.000 We got, I think, 250,000 streams on the show last night.

01:23:33.000 It's been, what, 12 hours?

01:23:36.000 So we're looking at a 70% bump.

01:23:38.000 And when we put that press kit, that package together, that sales kit for advertisers, we just say, here's our total VOD, our stream delivery, and our views are up.

01:23:46.000 This is a huge opportunity that I hope people realize that when it comes to these sales, you're going to make way more money if you're approaching this from a broad standpoint.

01:23:55.000 For creators out there, for sure.

01:23:56.000 And I'll give you even one more to talk about how behind they are.

01:23:59.000 Westwood One had podcast one for a period of time.

01:24:01.000 I kind of went through this whole thing where they were trying to sell ad reads.

01:24:05.000 And this was, gosh, I want to say 2000. It would have been 2014, 2015 maybe.

01:24:10.000 And they go, okay, so it has to be 60 seconds at the front.

01:24:15.000 I said, yeah, but we don't do that.

01:24:17.000 We cut these commercials, and I put them into the show, and so people don't even know what's a commercial.

01:24:20.000 It's meant to be fun.

01:24:21.000 They go, oh, wait, you're talking about, well, we don't pay for video, actually.

01:24:23.000 We only want audio auto downloads.

01:24:25.000 I said, but I just hit skip.

01:24:26.000 I said, I just hit skip.

01:24:28.000 So, look.

01:24:29.000 Then we're not going, this isn't going to work.

01:24:31.000 Now industry standard is they ask you to put it a certain length of time into the show, and of course video is more valuable real estate.

01:24:38.000 These people, this is the thing, a lot of these industries out there that exist, it's just about making money on what currently exists, not looking toward the future, and ultimately that ends up hurting the consumer.

01:24:47.000 My focus is always, how do we give them the best value for their dollar?

01:24:51.000 These ad agencies out there and a lot of these networks, they don't care.

01:24:55.000 I was just talking about this.

01:24:57.000 You know, we have all this stuff to my everlasting shame because if we have to record shows or clips for this show here, it had HBO Max.

01:25:03.000 Okay, it was HBO, then it became Max.

01:25:05.000 Did you know that you can't get Westworld on HBO? Did you know that?

01:25:10.000 It's not available!

01:25:11.000 Westworld.

01:25:12.000 It's gone.

01:25:13.000 You'll get Chris Wallace, mind you. 0.99

01:25:14.000 His shit-eating grin every time you sign in. 0.99

01:25:16.000 You know why? 0.99

01:25:17.000 Because they didn't want to pay royalties.

01:25:19.000 I believe they didn't want to pay royalties and they wanted to write it off as a loss.

01:25:22.000 So now you can go to Apple TV and pay like 60 bucks or whatever it is to buy Westworld.

01:25:25.000 That was the HBO show.

01:25:27.000 You're going, what am I paying for?

01:25:28.000 These companies are just trying to fleece consumers, try and separate them from their dollars.

01:25:33.000 They're not providing added value.

01:25:35.000 Obviously far more people paid for subscription for Westworld than Chris Wallace.

01:25:41.000 You know, it's fascinating.

01:25:42.000 We just launched Timcast IRL on Rumble live for the formally.

01:25:48.000 We've done a couple streams during big nights.

01:25:51.000 This was the first release, and we end up with hundreds of thousands.

01:25:55.000 We had 28,000 peak concurrence in the first night.

01:25:58.000 Again, that may be just, you know, hey, they just announced Timcast.

01:26:00.000 Let's go check it out real quick.

01:26:01.000 We averaged probably around like 21 or so throughout the night.

01:26:05.000 YouTube still was much bigger, but we saw a bigger viewership.

01:26:08.000 with all due respect to spotify who is this big player where their stock is at like 400 we don't get nearly that much i think we get like 30 to 40 on spotify yeah so how is it that we've been on spotify for so long and that's the best we can do and we want to do better we go on rumble we end up with substantially higher viewership yeah what this says to me is uh i don't know what i'm allowed to say or not say but let me just put it this way

01:26:38.000 rumble is in a better position than spotify for delivering the future of podcasts as they have become video and spotify with all due respect i'm not trying to be a dick they're playing catch up to the video podcast platform yeah youtube not YouTube nuked video podcasts. 0.94

01:26:54.000 Like, morons! 0.90

01:26:55.000 They had the early iteration of video podcasting, and they started saying, we're going to censor and ban all of these people. 1.00

01:27:03.000 We don't like it.

01:27:04.000 Right.

01:27:04.000 So Rumble ends up picking up the slack, and now we can launch a show and instantly have hundreds of thousands of viewers.

01:27:10.000 And I'm just thinking about growth as a business, advertising.

01:27:13.000 I think Rumble's going to take off.

01:27:16.000 Which is another reason, look, when Rumble comes and they're like, we want to work on a deal, and I'm talking to them, I'm talking to my, obviously, my family, my wife.

01:27:23.000 And I'm like, I think Rumble's going to be massive.

01:27:24.000 I think this is going to be huge.

01:27:26.000 I think in 10 years, they're going to rival the biggest podcast platforms.

01:27:28.000 And it might be, especially with Crowder, with Bongino, with Rubin, with Russell Brand.

01:27:34.000 If they keep making these moves, plus the massive investment they just got from Tether, I don't see how Rumble can fail when you've got Tether investing in it.

01:27:43.000 Not to mention the other big backers to it.

01:27:46.000 And the fact that they are the ones that picked up video podcasting.

01:27:50.000 When these other platforms were dumping it or playing 10-year catch-up.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

01:27:55.000 And not only that, but they've done it without compromise.

01:27:57.000 And what I see when you talk about those viewers is that it's real. 0.98

01:28:00.000 Like I notice, and this is, well, you know, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'll be a dick.

01:28:03.000 I noticed you didn't include X views in there because we all know that those views, you can't run for advertisers because you only know that 98% are two-second views or less. 0.55

01:28:11.000 You see so much of this in the industry.

01:28:12.000 People, if you're watching right now, you see these numbers and people will brag about numbers and you go, yeah, but they're not real.

01:28:17.000 Rumble is an honest company.

01:28:18.000 It's an uncompromising company.

01:28:20.000 And hopefully, people watching right now see the moves that they're making.

01:28:23.000 I mean, Tim Pool doesn't come cheap.

01:28:25.000 Tim Pool values who he is.

01:28:27.000 We all know that.

01:28:28.000 My point is, right, Rumble is willing to bring in the best people.

01:28:31.000 And they don't demand ownership over your name, image, and likeness forever, so you're able to actually be authentically who you are.

01:28:36.000 And Chris Pavlovsky, Rumble Premium, will stand in the pocket.

01:28:39.000 With that said, Tim, I want to continue, actually, here, our first foray here on Rumble Premium.

01:28:43.000 Where's the best place for people to go and sign up?

01:28:46.000 I imagine just your channel and click that button.

01:28:48.000 If you use promo code TIM10, you get 10% off an annual membership.

01:28:53.000 Rumble.com slash TimCast and Rumble.com slash TimCast IRL. Okay, great.

01:28:57.000 We're going to continue right here on Rumble Premium and take some chats.

01:28:59.000 Tim Pool, stay with us.

Louder with Crowder - February 12, 2025

🔴 Why the Inevitable Rise of China is a Huge Lie | GUEST: Tim Pool

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