Louder with Crowder - June 24, 2025


🔴 You've Been Lied To 2025-06-24 18:09


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On today's show, Stephen and Tim discuss the latest in the ongoing saga between Israel and Iran regarding nuclear weapons, and whether or not they have been lying to the world for decades about their supposed nuclear weapons capabilities. Plus, Tim and Stephen debate whether the U.S. should go to war with Iran.

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00:00:00.000 On Piers Morgan.
00:00:01.000 Konstantin Kissen.
00:00:02.000 It's Kissen.
00:00:02.000 I don't know why I said Kaz.
00:00:03.000 Sorry, I thought it was his first name.
00:00:05.000 Constantine Kissen.
00:00:06.000 It's a weird name.
00:00:07.000 He basically made the argument that Netanyahu's been saying this, or essentially Israel has been saying this for the better part of 30 years, maybe 25 years, is what he used, but I think it's probably 30, 35 years that he was saying.
00:00:20.000 And he said, was he wrong or was he lying?
00:00:24.000 He gave you two options, essentially.
00:00:26.000 And he said, it's more likely that he was lying the entire time.
00:00:29.000 And the implication that Dave is saying is that we have been lied to this entire time, that Iran really never has been close to a bomb.
00:00:35.000 But every time Israel wants us to go over there and try to take this threat, perceived threat out for them, they just say the magic words for us, which is they're going to have a bomb and you guys better go and take these guys out.
00:00:48.000 And many, many, many people have made the point.
00:00:50.000 Like, listen, what do you, what do you like?
00:00:52.000 So do me a favor.
00:00:54.000 Do me a favor.
00:00:54.000 Dave Smith.
00:00:56.000 Anybody else out there want to do this?
00:00:57.000 Fine.
00:00:57.000 Maybe this is homework you'll never see that was assigned to him.
00:01:00.000 Go out there and put all of those claims on a timeline.
00:01:05.000 And then go out there and put all of the strikes, all of the scientists killed, all of the centrifuges that magically spun too fast and blew up, all of the fires, all of the intelligence taken away, all of the cyber warfare that has occurred on that same timeline and see if you can maybe make sense that maybe it wasn't just lying.
00:01:28.000 Maybe it was steps taken along the way to make sure that the bomb stayed just out of reach for Iran.
00:01:36.000 And when I say bomb, I mean the material to be able to make a bomb.
00:01:39.000 I know there's a little bit of a lag there and you'll probably focus only on that.
00:01:43.000 Maybe some personal accountability here is in order for you, Dave Smith.
00:01:48.000 Because you're making it sound like that's the only possibility that Netanyahu is just this lying warmonger who's going to drag America into yet another war.
00:01:56.000 You're wrong.
00:01:58.000 You're wrong.
00:01:59.000 And you're not even giving any kind of credence to the possibility that the actions of the United States and Israel over those 30 years have kept the world from having a nuclear-armed Iran. 0.83
00:02:10.000 How about this?
00:02:12.000 You're welcome.
00:02:14.000 Certainly you wouldn't have advocated for this.
00:02:17.000 Under your assumptions, we could just say that Israel is lying every single time and hope for the best with Iran. 0.99
00:02:23.000 And to make it very clear, nobody on the show, including yourself, including Stephen, and including me, has said that Israel should preoccupy some sort of special veneration in our hearts.
00:02:33.000 They are a country like any other.
00:02:35.000 And I've made the case many times that they are far down the list on the ranking of important allies that we have.
00:02:41.000 I do that quite frequently.
00:02:42.000 Well, because you have a special place in your heart for Japan, Korea, Taiwan.
00:02:46.000 There's also about half the world's GDP in the Middle East.
00:02:48.000 That's true.
00:02:49.000 They made that, what was it, like 5% of the world's GDP in the Middle East or something like that?
00:02:54.000 And yeah, maybe we should be focused a little bit more on Asia.
00:02:56.000 I'll give you that.
00:02:57.000 Pivot.
00:02:58.000 Pivot?
00:03:01.000 But I just don't understand when you look at it.
00:03:04.000 They'll make this argument over and over and over.
00:03:06.000 But then when someone brings up the United Nations body that you are putting all of your eggs into to say Iraq did not have WMDs said that they found uranium enriched at over 83% in 2023.
00:03:22.000 No one can explain to me what they were going to do with 83% enriched uranium unless they plan to.
00:03:28.000 Dave Smith can.
00:03:29.000 Dave Smith can.
00:03:30.000 So what Dave Smith said is that they were only using that for negotiations.
00:03:34.000 Oh, as a latent nuclear deterrent.
00:03:37.000 Yes.
00:03:37.000 Yeah.
00:03:38.000 You find that under retard in the dictionary. 1.00
00:03:40.000 That's about how much sense that makes.
00:03:41.000 Retard alone. 1.00
00:03:42.000 I have all the components of a gun.
00:03:44.000 Actually, I have all the components of a bomb in my house.
00:03:47.000 It's not made yet, and I can't blow anything up.
00:03:50.000 As my neighbor, how should you react to that?
00:03:52.000 I should, especially if you've said you want to kill me by blowing me up over and over and over throughout history.
00:03:57.000 Maybe I'll try to intercept your FedEx packages or something like that.
00:04:00.000 I'm not sure you can put that stuff in FedEx, but if you could, I would intercept it.
00:04:04.000 And thanks a lot, Tim.
00:04:07.000 And by the way, guys, we want to take a lot of your chat today and really talk through this.
00:04:10.000 So we wanted to hear from you.
00:04:12.000 So make sure you're sending in your chats related to this topic and what we've covered today.
00:04:16.000 And look, if you disagree with us, that's fine.
00:04:18.000 I want to make the point that we've made several times on this show.
00:04:22.000 Again, you aren't just in one of two camps.
00:04:26.000 You're either an Israel shill or you're a Nazi.
00:04:28.000 That's not true.
00:04:30.000 Like Ian Carroll and Candace Owens and the other people that are kind of calling out stuff in Israel are not Nazis for calling out bad acts by Israel.
00:04:38.000 When they try to loop all of these things together and form some kind of a conspiracy, it starts to like the Jews being behind 9-11. 0.94
00:04:45.000 I'm sorry, guys.
00:04:46.000 You've shown zero evidence of that actually being true.
00:04:50.000 Zero evidence.
00:04:51.000 It's one of the most far out, fantastical things that I've ever heard in my life.
00:04:55.000 Even after watching the video that Candace Owens did on it, I still look at it and go, wait, what?
00:05:00.000 Like maybe you can fine, if you want to have a suspicion, okay, but what are they over there with an acne plunger guys?
00:05:07.000 But then they'll turn around and share the letter from Osama bin Laden, that was public guardian, and say, look, see, Osama had a point.
00:05:14.000 Okay, did Osama have a point and blow up the World Trade Center or did the Jews do it? 0.97
00:05:18.000 Because the only reason you would hold both those views as true at the same time is because you really don't like the idea of America.
00:05:24.000 Right.
00:05:25.000 Trick question.
00:05:25.000 Osama bin Laden was Jewish.
00:05:27.000 He also wore a catio.
00:05:29.000 He had that yarmulke in the hair.
00:05:30.000 A lot of people don't know that.
00:05:31.000 Yeah.
00:05:31.000 Yep.
00:05:32.000 Well, that's good to know now.
00:05:33.000 Now I know why this all started.
00:05:34.000 But you.
00:05:35.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:05:36.000 Yeah, you're welcome.
00:05:37.000 It's helpful.
00:05:37.000 It's actually soothing music.
00:05:39.000 It makes me less angry, and I appreciate that.
00:05:41.000 But you can actually hold the view that it's fine to call out Israel. 0.96
00:05:45.000 It's fine to say that they should have people inspecting their weapons.
00:05:47.000 I don't know, just like every other country that has nuclear weapons on the planet.
00:05:50.000 And that's not a controversial take, by the way.
00:05:53.000 I got a little flack from my favorite author about that the other day.
00:05:55.000 I was like, listen, you're taking this out of context.
00:05:57.000 Of course Israel should allow, unless there's some argument that you could make that I've never even considered.
00:06:01.000 I mean, I'd be willing to listen, but I'm 99.99% sure my answer is going to be the same.
00:06:06.000 Afterwards.
00:06:06.000 But no matter what you say, they should absolutely have inspections in Israel.
00:06:11.000 They need to get their ass in gear and start learning who is responsible for their survival.
00:06:15.000 Yeah.
00:06:15.000 Because the way they treat us is not how we need to be treated in the Israel.
00:06:19.000 No.
00:06:19.000 And we're sending way too much money over there.
00:06:21.000 100% agree with that.
00:06:22.000 So you can call them out.
00:06:23.000 On the other side of it, though, just because you say that you're okay with Israel taking stuff into their own hands and going in and striking Iran when they feel threatened by these guys that say death to America, death, and they have been lobbying rockets and funding terrorist cells, seven different syndicates or networks of terrorism around them for decades?
00:06:43.000 Like, in what world are you living in where Iran is just this neutral, benevolent actor sitting over there to be trusted?
00:06:52.000 I don't think that that's even remotely possible.
00:06:56.000 You can be in the middle and say, Israel, get your act together. 0.67
00:06:59.000 You don't know what the F you're doing, according to Donald Trump, which I don't usually use profanity, but I think that was a very good use of the F words. 1.00
00:07:06.000 Probably one of the best kind of encapsulations of this entire conflict that I've heard.
00:07:11.000 And you can also say, hey, you know what?
00:07:14.000 We can't let these guys have nukes.
00:07:15.000 Period, done.
00:07:16.000 It's a very easy position to hold.
00:07:18.000 But right now, it's polarized.
00:07:19.000 And it's polarized because these people over there are spinning these fantastical theories together.
00:07:23.000 And look, I will make this point too.
00:07:25.000 The people that right now are saying that you're a Nazi, you're anti-Semitic, that's like the new racist for people as well.
00:07:32.000 It's being way overused on people who are just saying, hey, I don't like XYZ.
00:07:37.000 But listen, don't try to hide behind that when you are actually anti-Semitic, when you actually just do not like the Jews.
00:07:44.000 Just admit it.
00:07:45.000 It's fine for you to hold that opinion.
00:07:48.000 I disagree with it.
00:07:48.000 I don't think it's a good thing to do ever.
00:07:51.000 But at the same time, you have a right to do it.
00:07:52.000 Just admit it.
00:07:54.000 But don't sit there and call everybody who questions Israel an anti-Semite because it's not true.
00:08:00.000 All right.
00:08:01.000 Let's take some chats really quickly unless we have those videos.
00:08:03.000 Do we have a few things to catch up on?
00:08:05.000 There are some things from Trump that we could pull up depending on.
00:08:07.000 You want to start with the truth or a video?
00:08:09.000 Let's start with, let's do a video first.
00:08:11.000 I think we have the video of him talking about regime change, right?
00:08:14.000 Yep.
00:08:14.000 Yeah.
00:08:16.000 29-second video.
00:08:17.000 Here we go.
00:08:18.000 Want to see regime change in Iran?
00:08:20.000 If there was, there was.
00:08:22.000 But no, I don't want it.
00:08:23.000 I'd like to see everything calm down as quickly as possible.
00:08:27.000 Regime change takes chaos.
00:08:30.000 And ideally, we don't want to see so much chaos.
00:08:32.000 So we'll see how it does.
00:08:34.000 You know, the Iranians are very good traders, very good business people, and they got a lot of oil.
00:08:39.000 They should be fine.
00:08:41.000 They should be able to rebuild and do a good job.
00:08:43.000 They're never going to have nuclear, but other than that, they should do a great job.
00:08:50.000 I like the, there is a bit of ambiguity here because he is talking about making Iran great again.
00:08:55.000 He put out a post saying, or truth, saying that I think that he did kind of call for regime change or pretty clearly, kind of said he would support it, but he supported it from this perspective, that the people of Iran should rise up and demand better from their leadership, not that the United States or Israel should go in and overthrow the Ayatollah.
00:09:14.000 And I don't want to prescribe him playing 8D chess or something, but the moment in which he issued that statement turns out to have been very strategic because Iran was at its lowest point.
00:09:24.000 It had no strength.
00:09:25.000 So why not throw on the idea of, you know, maybe we will support a regime change?
00:09:29.000 How are the mullahs supposed to respond to that?
00:09:31.000 Right.
00:09:32.000 Because there's no way if we wanted to go in and make sure that the Ayatollah wasn't in power tomorrow, we could do it like that. 0.82
00:09:38.000 Deposing Saddam Hussein was not the problem. 0.63
00:09:40.000 It was rebuilding afterwards.
00:09:42.000 So the mullahs know if we want to get them out, we can get them out. 1.00
00:09:46.000 So maybe we should chill a little bit.
00:09:48.000 That's my thoughts on it.
00:09:49.000 All right.
00:09:50.000 What's his truth post that I need to hit?
00:09:52.000 Following up on the oil comments there, do you have that one on China?
00:09:56.000 Yeah.
00:09:58.000 China can now continue to purchase oil from Iran.
00:10:01.000 Hopefully they will be purchasing plenty from the U.S. also.
00:10:04.000 It was my great honor to make this happen.
00:10:07.000 I love how he takes credit for everything.
00:10:09.000 And then also in this one, I'm glad that he didn't say Donald J. Trump President of the United States.
00:10:13.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
00:10:15.000 Those are his calling cards right now when he's trying to make a point, it seems.
00:10:18.000 It's like his all caps.
00:10:20.000 Remember who I am.
00:10:21.000 I know the account says it.
00:10:23.000 I can't do Trump's voice nearly.
00:10:24.000 It's like his school announcement.
00:10:27.000 Today we will have recess all day.
00:10:29.000 Yep.
00:10:30.000 And me low for lunch.
00:10:31.000 This is your leader.
00:10:32.000 I have spoken.
00:10:34.000 Naked Zoe.
00:10:35.000 So what do you think about the oil thing?
00:10:37.000 Well, it's not like China wasn't purchasing oil from Iran.
00:10:40.000 They get 50% of their oil from the strait, but not from Iran.
00:10:43.000 I don't know.
00:10:44.000 20% was coming from Iran.
00:10:45.000 None officially was coming from Iran, but about a 50%.
00:10:48.000 Oh, that's right.
00:10:49.000 Didn't they actually do it through a third party?
00:10:50.000 Yeah, they'd always go through something else.
00:10:52.000 But it was about 20%.
00:10:53.000 And then all of Iran's exports were going to China.
00:10:56.000 So they were drastically dependent upon that.
00:10:58.000 I don't know.
00:11:00.000 Anything we can do to hamstring China, I would appreciate. 0.99
00:11:02.000 But at the same time, you don't want to try to bring the Iranians back to the table and say, well, you can't send oil to your biggest partner. 0.61
00:11:09.000 So it's a little bit of a fine line he has to walk right now.
00:11:14.000 Yeah.
00:11:14.000 And I mean, look, this is part of, I don't know, Trump's negotiating tactic.
00:11:18.000 I don't think he wants somebody to completely lose either, right?
00:11:22.000 If you have somebody who's just completely dominated, you're pushing for regime change, you're not letting them rebuild their economy, you're continuing with harsh sanctions on these guys that are above and beyond, then potentially you could drive them into the hands of people that you don't want them to be in business with, right?
00:11:36.000 So that was one of the fears with Russia is that if you do too much to them to sanction them, that they'll just align more with China.
00:11:42.000 And that's an alliance that we really don't want to get off the ground because naturally it should never happen to the degree of like military cooperation.
00:11:48.000 It probably won't naturally happen on its own.
00:11:51.000 China may see them as a weak neighbor that they can just take from, but you don't want these guys kind of teaming up.
00:11:57.000 And so that's the same thing with Iran.
00:11:58.000 We don't want to drive them into the end, into the hands of somebody else.
00:12:02.000 And so I think it's fine to look at it and say, maybe that's the play here.
00:12:06.000 Maybe the play here is to kind of like, hey, we've got everybody neutral corners.
00:12:10.000 We've taken out what we said we wanted to take out.
00:12:12.000 We're done.
00:12:13.000 You're done.
00:12:14.000 We're done.
00:12:15.000 Now, why don't you get back to the business of rebuilding your country and making it great for the people that are there instead of worrying so much about Israel and the United States?
00:12:23.000 Is that a good idea?
00:12:24.000 Maybe so.
00:12:25.000 I mean, unfortunately for the Iranian people, I don't think the mullahs and the ID are ever going to be great for the people. 1.00
00:12:30.000 But you see a lot of the Iranian activists who I have a lot of respect for over the past couple of years, especially since the anti-hijab protests.
00:12:37.000 But they're pissed at Trump right now.
00:12:39.000 They wanted him to push and push and push, but that would require us actually going to war.
00:12:44.000 need to push?
00:12:44.000 They have to because it's just not something Who was that led by?
00:12:49.000 Students.
00:12:50.000 Well, yeah.
00:12:51.000 So get back in the streets, Iran, if that's what you want. 1.00
00:12:54.000 If that's what you want, go make it happen.
00:12:56.000 We don't have the capital or the resources with our important theaters elsewhere Right now, but on the term of resources, oil prices just went down 4% upon that announcement.
00:13:05.000 Yeah, you know what?
00:13:06.000 And it says more than 4% after Trump.
00:13:08.000 So yesterday was the day that I thought oil prices were going to go up, right?
00:13:12.000 Because Iran was threatening to block the Strait of Hormuz.
00:13:15.000 It's Hormuz, right?
00:13:16.000 I'm not pronouncing it incorrectly.
00:13:18.000 They were threatening to block the Strait of Hormuz.
00:13:20.000 In fact, I believe that there were stories floating around.
00:13:22.000 Hormuz.
00:13:23.000 Hormuz.
00:13:24.000 It's sexy.
00:13:25.000 You got to get back there.
00:13:26.000 Yeah.
00:13:28.000 Bit like you need like an RFK clear-your-throat moment.
00:13:31.000 That's not what I meant.
00:13:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:13:33.000 Yuck.
00:13:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:13:34.000 They were threatening to block the strait.
00:13:36.000 The parliament, apparently in Iran, their governing body, apparently voted for that.
00:13:41.000 And oil prices went down.
00:13:44.000 I watched that.
00:13:45.000 I literally watched this happen because I'm like, ooh, okay, so they're threatening this.
00:13:48.000 Everybody thought that this was one of the problems that we could run into is that they could just block this strait, maybe give China access to it and just block everybody else.
00:13:56.000 And maybe that leads to an armed conflict.
00:13:57.000 And we want to avoid that.
00:13:58.000 Yeah, that was the thing you're seeing online is, oh, you're ready for $15 a gallon.
00:14:02.000 Oil prices are going to go up.
00:14:03.000 And I literally, I don't follow it on my stock tracker thing.
00:14:06.000 Like there's several companies that I just kind of check on every once in a while.
00:14:09.000 Don't exactly have an extensive portfolio.
00:14:12.000 I own some Rumble stock.
00:14:14.000 But I looked and I was like, I don't even know how to look up the price of oil in this stock ticker.
00:14:18.000 I had to look it up and I put it in.
00:14:19.000 I was like, oh, it's down.
00:14:21.000 OIL.
00:14:22.000 No, it's not OIL.
00:14:23.000 It's CL equals T. Not even kidding.
00:14:26.000 Crude.
00:14:28.000 I have no idea, but yes, that's the one that I'm supposed to look at, I guess.
00:14:31.000 It was down yesterday.
00:14:33.000 And now it's even down further.
00:14:35.000 In what world does that make any sense?
00:14:36.000 I think the stock market was relatively neutral yesterday.
00:14:39.000 It wasn't up big.
00:14:39.000 It wasn't down big.
00:14:40.000 For a little while, it was up.
00:14:41.000 For a little while, it wasn't.
00:14:42.000 It's like, if all of these things that people are saying online are actually going to happen and World War III is coming and oil prices are going to go through the roof and Iran is going to rain holy hellfire down on everybody, don't you think the stock market would have reacted?
00:14:58.000 Don't you think that the futures traders and oil would have been reacting?
00:15:00.000 These guys make money at every single opportunity that there possibly is.
00:15:04.000 When you look where people put their money, they didn't put their money on that stuff.
00:15:08.000 Anything else that we need to catch up on?
00:15:09.000 Do we have the Tucker clip or any of that stuff?
00:15:11.000 So there was a Tucker clip, and then you said there was a clip from people in Qatar at the base.
00:15:17.000 So they didn't send that in.
00:15:18.000 I did find on X some like, you've got to see this reaction from people.
00:15:23.000 So maybe it's the one, but I'm not 100% sure on it.
00:15:26.000 Let's play Tucker.
00:15:27.000 Okay, here's Tucker.
00:15:29.000 we have some breaking news uh what now well this is This is just sad on every level.
00:15:41.000 This is the Telegraph.
00:15:42.000 Look, I don't know if this is true or not.
00:15:44.000 Explosions have been heard over Doha Qatar.
00:15:46.000 After Iran launched a missile attack on the U.S. Russian officials told Axios that Iran had fired six missiles toward at least one U.S. base in that Gulf country.
00:15:55.000 That base exists to protect Israel, by the way. 0.65
00:15:58.000 I know we're constantly, Bray Weiss is constantly attacking Qatar.
00:16:01.000 Qatar has done more to defend Israel. 0.61
00:16:04.000 But anyway, hosting this base, which they don't need at all.
00:16:08.000 It's the richest country in the world.
00:16:10.000 I had surgery in Qatar.
00:16:12.000 That base.
00:16:13.000 Yeah.
00:16:13.000 And Josh, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
00:16:15.000 I got hurt in Afghanistan and that base guarantees the survival of the state of Qatar as long as it's there. 0.99
00:16:22.000 They benefit more from that base than anybody.
00:16:24.000 So the fact that he's saying they don't need the base there, if he's saying that at all with any sense of sincerity, he can shove it up his ass because that is so far from the truth.
00:16:33.000 It is Pride Month. 0.51
00:16:34.000 And someone that is as smart as Tucker Carlson should know better than to ever mutter something so ridiculous.
00:16:40.000 It's there just to defend Israel. 0.93
00:16:41.000 See, this is the kind of thing that we're talking about.
00:16:43.000 Is that base just there to defend Israel or is it to help out Qatar?
00:16:45.000 By the way.
00:16:46.000 Which one's closer to Israel?
00:16:47.000 Vicenza, Italy, or Doha Qatar?
00:16:50.000 I don't know the exact number of miles traveled to get there.
00:16:57.000 Maybe somebody else does.
00:16:59.000 It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me to go.
00:17:01.000 That's a rhetorical question, right, Joe?
00:17:02.000 I think.
00:17:03.000 A little bit.
00:17:04.000 But I wasn't sure in the moment, and so I didn't want to get it.
00:17:07.000 I actually don't know which one's closest.
00:17:08.000 Oh, I bet you did know.
00:17:09.000 No, I actually don't know which one's closer, but I do know that the 173rd Infantry Regiment is there, and we have quite a few nuclear troops, right?
00:17:17.000 Italia.
00:17:18.000 In Qatar.
00:17:20.000 You know where else NATO has nuclear weapons?
00:17:21.000 Where?
00:17:22.000 Turkey.
00:17:23.000 Yeah.
00:17:23.000 Oh, that's right.
00:17:25.000 Hmm.
00:17:26.000 Interesting.
00:17:27.000 Listen, where's the leadership of Hamas currently headquartered?
00:17:32.000 No longer.
00:17:33.000 I think they were expelled, I believe.
00:17:34.000 From Qatar?
00:17:35.000 I think so.
00:17:36.000 Kuwait out. 0.99
00:17:37.000 Really?
00:17:37.000 Sam would need to fact-check me on that.
00:17:39.000 I would also wonder if Kuwait's closer to Israel.
00:17:42.000 Oh, yeah.
00:17:43.000 No, but Qatar is strictly there to protect Israel.
00:17:47.000 In fact, when I got my surgery there, the first thing they said is, we will operate on your hernia, but first.
00:17:52.000 Are you circumcised?
00:17:54.000 What is that scar?
00:17:55.000 Is that a swastika?
00:17:57.000 And I said, no, no, no, that's just something I know in college.
00:18:02.000 One too many beers in a tattoo shop that was way too close.
00:18:06.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:18:07.000 Look at this.
00:18:08.000 Oh, Marjorie Taylor Green praises Trump.
00:18:11.000 One of the reasons I've always supported him.
00:18:14.000 Listen, there are people coming out of the woodwork right now.
00:18:16.000 And I think Jake Pasovic, I think, is being accused of this.
00:18:19.000 I didn't get to see the underlying stuff because I don't really see a whole lot of his posts.
00:18:25.000 Is that the lady that pledged to death to us part like three times? 0.91
00:18:28.000 That's fair.
00:18:29.000 I said Jake Pevov.
00:18:30.000 I got to take my opportunity.
00:18:31.000 So Pasovic, basically, yeah, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:18:34.000 These people were actually calling out.
00:18:35.000 And look, I am not burdened with being Mark Levin's friend.
00:18:40.000 I don't like Mark Levin's take on all this stuff.
00:18:44.000 Like, he seems to be incredibly bloodthirsty.
00:18:47.000 And I'm just not all about it.
00:18:50.000 It's my opinion, not Steven's, not the shows.
00:18:52.000 That's just personally me.
00:18:53.000 And I'm not saying Steven backs up Mark Levin.
00:18:54.000 I'm just saying he has some history with him, so he knows him.
00:18:58.000 I don't like those takes.
00:18:59.000 I don't like the takes of people who are out there criticizing President Trump, and then immediately they stick their hand up.
00:19:05.000 Which way is the wind blowing?
00:19:07.000 Oh, President Trump.
00:19:08.000 It's okay to be a bit of a trip.
00:19:09.000 I've been with you all the time.
00:19:10.000 He's so brilliant.
00:19:12.000 We've railed him over the H1B.
00:19:14.000 I argue you should criticize the president all the time, especially if you don't like what he's doing, but don't turn around and go like, yep, I knew it.
00:19:20.000 Just like I did.
00:19:21.000 Exactly.
00:19:23.000 I never wavered.
00:19:24.000 Just admitted.
00:19:24.000 Like, oh, I was wrong.
00:19:25.000 I'm glad I was wrong.
00:19:26.000 Yeah.
00:19:26.000 Never wavered in my support for the president once.
00:19:29.000 I think, speaking of Jake Pesobic, I think if the research could find it, that our good friend Razorfist had a nice call-out of him.
00:19:37.000 Oh, that's right, Neil.
00:19:38.000 That we could pull up, it's really funny.
00:19:40.000 Okay, so while we're doing that, why don't we take some of your chats?
00:19:43.000 I'm curious what you guys have to say about today's show and the Israel shilling that we've done and also the anti-Semitic crap that we said, too.
00:19:51.000 I'm not sure how we're capable of both at the same time, but I know that you will criticize it.
00:19:54.000 The scrapers are gone. 0.97
00:19:56.000 Oh, thank God.
00:19:57.000 They did send in the Doha reaction video if we wanted to see that.
00:20:00.000 If not, we can go to chat.
00:20:02.000 Let's just go to chat for now.
00:20:02.000 Okay.
00:20:03.000 All right.
00:20:03.000 Let's see.
00:20:04.000 First chat from main defender asks, question for the crew.
00:20:10.000 Do we feel confident that Iran didn't relocate their enriched uranium prior to Operation FAFO at midnight? 0.94
00:20:16.000 Josh, comma, nothing.
00:20:20.000 Well, you've actually asked us to stop.
00:20:22.000 Thank you for your service.
00:20:23.000 Yeah, thanks.
00:20:24.000 Some guy at the airport did it.
00:20:25.000 He goes, yeah, I know you hate to hear this, but thank you for your service.
00:20:29.000 Meanwhile, I'm trying my best to tie my shoes.
00:20:31.000 My ass cracks hanging out.
00:20:34.000 I've got my belt half on.
00:20:35.000 That's the service he was talking about.
00:20:39.000 No, I don't.
00:20:40.000 I think, in fact, we don't have as much definitive information about that as I would like for us to have as to where the enriched uranium has been taken to.
00:20:48.000 And I think that's what the IAEA said as well.
00:20:50.000 They were very unsure where some of that material had gone to.
00:20:54.000 That probably is one of the reasons that they took out as much of their nuclear sites as possible.
00:20:59.000 I don't know what intelligence they had on where this stuff was, but that is definitely a concern that is out there.
00:21:05.000 Could definitely be a reason why Iran's so willing to stop. 0.75
00:21:09.000 Like, hey, yeah, we'll stop.
00:21:10.000 We'll stop.
00:21:12.000 Ceasefire, ceasefire, ceasefire.
00:21:13.000 We'll be back in five years.
00:21:14.000 And you can have 60% and move it and have no capability of enrichment after that.
00:21:20.000 And so that will still set you back.
00:21:21.000 Yeah, they could be working on something.
00:21:22.000 They could be scheming.
00:21:23.000 Mark Wayne Mullen, the senator from Oklahoma, came out yesterday and said that they had credible intelligence.
00:21:27.000 And again, you know, intelligence, that they had credible intelligence that it never left Fordeau.
00:21:32.000 Okay.
00:21:32.000 And so there is a good sense that it was destroyed.
00:21:34.000 Again, we don't know for certain, but there's multiple narratives on it.
00:21:37.000 Yeah.
00:21:37.000 So, but that is a concern.
00:21:38.000 I don't know how great of a concern right now, but it is definitely a concern.
00:21:41.000 Next chat.
00:21:42.000 All right.
00:21:42.000 Next chat from Mr. Nevermiss.
00:21:45.000 Question for crew.
00:21:46.000 Tulsi said they have no credible evidence of Iran developing a nuclear weapon, but the facts show otherwise.
00:21:51.000 So where did she even get this claim?
00:21:53.000 No, she's right, and we're right, and they're right.
00:21:56.000 It's weird.
00:21:57.000 So there's no credible evidence that they are developing a nuclear weapon.
00:22:00.000 Doesn't mean that they are not enriching uranium to weapons grade.
00:22:03.000 What it means is there's two separate things.
00:22:05.000 Well, three technically, right?
00:22:06.000 So you need weapons-grade material.
00:22:08.000 You need to then assemble a nuclear weapon.
00:22:10.000 That's what a one or two-year process potentially for them to be able to do.
00:22:14.000 And then you have to have a mechanism to get said weapon from where you are to where they are, unless you want to nuke yourself, which most people don't.
00:22:21.000 So that is a process that took North Korea how long, 10 or 12 years after they had the bomb?
00:22:26.000 After the first test, I believe, in the mid-90s, or when they started enriching in the mid-90s, they didn't test until 2006.
00:22:36.000 And then they didn't really deliver another, like a credible delivery system that could at least reach ICBM levels until 2017 or something.
00:22:43.000 Yeah, so there was a long delay.
00:22:44.000 And so everybody could be right theoretically that they don't have the capability of making a bomb, but they're making the material for the bomb, right?
00:22:56.000 And there's only one reason that you do that.
00:22:57.000 And again, I'm not going to go with the negotiation thing because if that was the negotiation thing right now, that they had to stop enriching uranium.
00:23:03.000 And that's the black, the poison pill that they put in these negotiations that they couldn't enrich anymore.
00:23:07.000 Wouldn't that be the whole point?
00:23:09.000 Wouldn't that be your time to go, fine, I won't, but here's what you have to do.
00:23:14.000 They didn't.
00:23:15.000 That's like getting a restraining order and saying the poison pill is that you can't be within 500 feet of me.
00:23:20.000 Yes, I'm like, but that's the restraining order.
00:23:21.000 That's the point of that.
00:23:22.000 We're negotiating for this and you're only doing that for negotiation purposes, but you're unwilling to trade it away?
00:23:28.000 What?
00:23:29.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:23:31.000 So people have really tried to hamstring Tulsi on this.
00:23:33.000 And she went back and actually said, no, you guys are not.
00:23:37.000 Like, listen to my full statement.
00:23:38.000 And then also read the IAEA's full statement.
00:23:40.000 Dave Smith and those guys will actually cherry-pick the IAEA statement.
00:23:43.000 And I don't know if it's out of maliciousness or if it's just ignorance, but you can see that the IAEA report has major concerns.
00:23:51.000 They understand the 2003 fatwa that was issued by the Ayatollah saying that they would not be seeking nuclear weapons because that is haram.
00:23:58.000 That is against Islamic law.
00:23:59.000 But then you can also see the 60% and now 83.7% enrichment that has zero specific use outside of creating a bomb.
00:24:09.000 There's so many things here that don't line up.
00:24:11.000 So if you're out there saying that Iran is not trying to develop a bomb, you're probably, if you had to put odds on it on the polymarket side of things, you're probably in the minority there.
00:24:22.000 Next chat.
00:24:23.000 All right, next chat from Vastimus.
00:24:25.000 Question for crew.
00:24:26.000 What's the best response to those who point at pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal as one of the current catalysts or catalysts of the current conflict?
00:24:36.000 Cool.
00:24:37.000 Pretty much that.
00:24:39.000 Well, do you have any thoughts on the JCPOA?
00:24:44.000 So when Obama signed that, there was a lot of caveats on what could be inspected.
00:24:48.000 They could inspect military installations, but they could only be at predetermined dates and times and things like that.
00:24:54.000 And the moment that this ran out, it did nothing to set their program back.
00:24:58.000 So theoretically, the day that that deal ended, they could be right back on the path to enriching and right back on the path to a weapon from the same point at which they started the negotiations.
00:25:08.000 So you were just kicking the can down the road a little bit farther without actually dealing with the problem.
00:25:13.000 Yeah, and again, I hate to go back to Dave Smith.
00:25:15.000 Dave's going to be able to get away from him.
00:25:15.000 We gave him $400 million of cash to just pay to Paris.
00:25:18.000 We did, yeah.
00:25:19.000 We gave him a lot of money.
00:25:20.000 We lifted sanctions.
00:25:21.000 We've done a whole lot of stuff to these guys.
00:25:22.000 And Dave, look, Dave's been invited on the show because we disagree on this, but we don't disagree on everything.
00:25:26.000 And we wanted to have him have an opportunity to make his point.
00:25:29.000 Invited him on the show.
00:25:30.000 Have not heard back from him.
00:25:31.000 We'll see how that goes.
00:25:32.000 But making that point, like blaming Trump for leaving this, and that's one of the reasons why we are where we are today.
00:25:41.000 I think that's kind of lazy, unfortunately.
00:25:44.000 I think there was a before that, before that time, they wanted to make the bomb.
00:25:49.000 And now saying, well, they're just enriching to this point to be able to use it in negotiations.
00:25:53.000 And they wouldn't have been able to do that otherwise.
00:25:55.000 Well, it's like the IAEA, even in their report, said, we're very concerned about these other materials that we have found that we have no idea where they came from because they didn't come from the places that we're inspecting.
00:26:05.000 We think that they're hiding stuff.
00:26:07.000 So fine, they're in the program, but they're hiding stuff.
00:26:10.000 is the program really doing its job then?
00:26:12.000 No, no, it's not.
00:26:15.000 So, acting like this agreement was going to be the savior of everything and Iran was just going to play ball like they should have the entire time and be honest with us and allow inspectors to go wherever they needed to go, whenever they needed to go there, is just not being honest.
00:26:28.000 Question, and I think a lot of people that are upset with how things have developed need to answer this.
00:26:33.000 If this was all done under a false pretext that there was nuclear weapons or the potential for nuclear weapons in the future, and that was all fake and it was just to help Israel and, you know, whatever, why would Trump all of a sudden be okay with taking out their nuclear facilities and now we can have a ceasefire and everyone can stay where they are?
00:26:53.000 Why would that be okay for Trump now?
00:26:55.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:26:56.000 He would be taking out the false flag, essentially.
00:26:58.000 He would be removing the thing that they would use as a false flag, not a false flag, you know, and they could attack, obviously, and say it was somebody else, but the impetus for going to war.
00:27:07.000 Basically, Trump took that card off of the table and said, now what?
00:27:12.000 Not going to war with Iran.
00:27:14.000 Everybody should be cheering that.
00:27:16.000 Next chat.
00:27:17.000 All right.
00:27:18.000 Next chat from Ibrahim Asmadeus.
00:27:20.000 Question.
00:27:21.000 We took shots at Iran, justified 100%. 1.00
00:27:24.000 What do we do with the politicians here sympathetic to Iran?
00:27:27.000 What does sympathetic to Iran mean?
00:27:30.000 I'm not trying to be obtuse.
00:27:33.000 I just mean like if you're a lot of different opinions here.
00:27:36.000 Yeah, the gift bag.
00:27:37.000 We're not Iran. 0.90
00:27:39.000 No, we're not Iran.
00:27:40.000 Josh, that's a great point.
00:27:41.000 We do have, like, do I like it?
00:27:43.000 Of course not.
00:27:43.000 Do I like politicians that I don't know what sympathetic means?
00:27:46.000 Does that mean that they are more anti-Israel dragging us into a war and therefore they're sympathetic? 0.80
00:27:52.000 Does that mean that they're actually like pro-Iranian regime?
00:27:55.000 Like L.A. County Sheriff's sympathetic sheriff?
00:27:57.000 Well, exactly.
00:27:58.000 Are they sympathizers?
00:27:59.000 Because thank God they're keeping an eye on things that the LA County Sheriff.
00:28:02.000 Hey, by the way, guys, has anybody checked in with the L.A. County Sheriff to see what they think about the ceasefire?
00:28:06.000 No, but I haven't died, so I assume that they're doing their job.
00:28:09.000 Thank you.
00:28:09.000 I think they might have got pegged the other day.
00:28:11.000 Straight from our hearts to your social media page, thank you, Los Angeles County, for taking care of world matters that matter to us.
00:28:20.000 Texas, thanks you.
00:28:21.000 We love you.
00:28:22.000 Pagan is for Iran as their new cat. 0.99
00:28:24.000 That's a good name for a segment.
00:28:26.000 World Matters That Matter to Us.
00:28:27.000 World Matters.
00:28:28.000 Her reply was.
00:28:30.000 Did it on purpose?
00:28:31.000 Pro-Hamas, those crying on X, that sort of thing.
00:28:34.000 I mean, look, again, we have the ability to have differences of opinion.
00:28:38.000 And look, you can be not pro-Hamas necessarily, but it's kind of pro-Palestinian civilians trapped in this terrible fighting situation.
00:28:50.000 I just want to make sure.
00:28:51.000 Yeah.
00:28:51.000 And I'm not going to say his name again, but this is directed at everybody out there who is making this argument.
00:28:58.000 And maybe Piers Morgan as well in a very kind of friendly way.
00:29:02.000 Like, you ought to be blaming more than just Israel.
00:29:07.000 If everything you're saying is true, if I grant every single thing that you have said, every nasty, terrible, and I don't mean nasty like you're wrong, I just mean like terrible, disgusting, horrible thing.
00:29:17.000 If everything you've said about Israel and the war that they are waging in Gaza is true, then you need to be blaming them and a handful of other people as well. 0.57
00:29:29.000 Because it is entirely avoidable if a gate is opened into Egypt and a humanitarian zone is put up.
00:29:40.000 Not talking about letting people just flood your country.
00:29:43.000 You have refused to accept one person.
00:29:49.000 One person.
00:29:51.000 But Israel is the only bad guy, even if I grant all your facts. 1.00
00:29:55.000 Typically when war happens and people start to run for the borders, the international community gets together and does something.
00:30:01.000 Right now, the international community has just gotten together and said, Israel bad?
00:30:06.000 Why do you think that is?
00:30:07.000 Why do you think people that were trying to deliver aid to Gaza that were flying through Egypt got sat down and then beaten?
00:30:14.000 What do you think that is?
00:30:16.000 Maybe a little less name-calling and a little bit more looking at the facts of the situation would benefit everybody.
00:30:22.000 I am old enough to remember when Hamas said that they bombed a hospital early on in the war and they hit the parking lot.
00:30:30.000 I'm old enough to remember that during that strike, they said they killed 500 people.
00:30:34.000 This was the official information coming out from Hamas.
00:30:36.000 Not saying everything's like that.
00:30:37.000 There's plenty of things that Israel has done that I completely condemn. 0.99
00:30:42.000 But they said 500 people died.
00:30:44.000 Turns out, I believe in that same instance that the missile that hit it was a misfire and that we had video evidence.
00:30:52.000 If I'm not conflating two things, I know sometimes Hamas rockets don't exactly fly where they're supposed to.
00:30:57.000 Maybe it happened more than once.
00:30:59.000 So now you want me to believe you on everything when we have evidence that you've lied on stuff?
00:31:04.000 You can say the same thing about Israel.
00:31:05.000 You maybe make the case that they've lied on some stuff too.
00:31:07.000 Fine.
00:31:09.000 At least at this point, I have to go.
00:31:11.000 The human shield people are probably the bad guys in this situation.
00:31:13.000 And the other guys, maybe not the good guys, maybe doing some bad stuff too, but certainly Egypt and Jordan and neighbors that could take people in that are saying, hell no.
00:31:23.000 Maybe they ought to get some blame too.
00:31:25.000 I don't know.
00:31:26.000 Maybe there's enough to go around.
00:31:27.000 Next chat.
00:31:28.000 All right.
00:31:29.000 Next chat from Rage Against the Goons.
00:31:33.000 Do you think individuals like Tucker and Candace are reacting this way for clicks, or are they simply revealing their true lack of trust in Trump to make the right decisions?
00:31:42.000 That's interesting.
00:31:43.000 I want to hear what you guys have to say about that, and then I'll respond.
00:31:46.000 With Candace, I think she will griffs the way the wind is blowing during that particular day.
00:31:52.000 She was a doxer, and then she was in Jerusalem at the opening of the embassy shitting off. 0.99
00:31:56.000 She was.
00:31:57.000 Who is she in Jerusalem with?
00:31:58.000 Charlie Kirk.
00:31:59.000 Oh, that's right.
00:32:00.000 Yeah, and she was mad at liberals because they weren't pro-Israel enough.
00:32:03.000 And then she gets married to one of Andrew Tate's buddies, and now all of a sudden she's a Jew hater.
00:32:08.000 I don't care.
00:32:09.000 She's not, I don't, I don't take her serious.
00:32:11.000 I think she's impressionable.
00:32:13.000 Yeah, she's impressionable and she likes money. 1.00
00:32:16.000 Fine, whatever.
00:32:17.000 Tucker's a different case to me because he is clearly a very intelligent person.
00:32:22.000 And his monologues.
00:32:23.000 When he had his monologues on Fox, I thought that was some of the best.
00:32:26.000 It was great.
00:32:26.000 That was some of the best media that existed.
00:32:29.000 Yeah.
00:32:29.000 I tuned out after the monologue.
00:32:31.000 Yeah.
00:32:32.000 I'm not even kidding.
00:32:33.000 And so his is a little bit different.
00:32:36.000 I don't know, but I just have a hard time believing that he is naive enough to completely believe the things that he's saying.
00:32:43.000 And the Russia thing is what really blackpilled me on him.
00:32:45.000 Yeah.
00:32:46.000 Because you don't go to the center of Moscow, to a subway station that was constructed under the Stalinist regime to impress foreign journalists.
00:32:54.000 It was a propaganda piece.
00:32:55.000 It was a propaganda piece.
00:32:56.000 Then act like a propagandist that's impressed by said subway station.
00:33:00.000 Yeah.
00:33:01.000 I don't mind his opinion on why the conflict started.
00:33:03.000 I think there's a lot of people that have different opinions about that.
00:33:05.000 That's a pretty good interview that he gave to Vladimir Putin, too.
00:33:07.000 I have no problem with that.
00:33:08.000 But I could never take him seriously again after he went full Walter Durante during that Moscow trip.
00:33:15.000 Because he says, go to Moscow.
00:33:17.000 It's nicer than D.C. Well, no, I can go to the National Mall or I can go to Red Square and those are both very nice places.
00:33:25.000 But you go 10 miles outside of Moscow and you're going to be lucky to find someone that has indoor plumbing.
00:33:30.000 You're going to find death rates that are far higher and birth rates that are far lower.
00:33:34.000 Alcoholism that's far higher.
00:33:36.000 Abortion rates that are far higher.
00:33:37.000 Well, they're really cold.
00:33:37.000 They need the alcohol to stay warm.
00:33:39.000 I wouldn't blame them.
00:33:39.000 But these are all things you could Google and find out in a couple of seconds or speak to someone from Russia for two seconds that's not just a white girl that got put up on TikTok because she's a white girl.
00:33:49.000 It's just not good journalism.
00:33:50.000 Yeah, and it's, it's, I, you know, I do, I don't know.
00:33:53.000 I kind of, I don't want to keep commenting on it really quick.
00:33:55.000 I want to take Josh to your opinion and then I'll comment back on Tucker because otherwise I'll just pontificate and ramble.
00:34:00.000 My opinion on Tucker?
00:34:02.000 Well, on Tucker and Can, so what was the question?
00:34:04.000 Well, you could say that Tucker is a Tucker's a grifter and doesn't believe what he says.
00:34:08.000 It's a free country.
00:34:11.000 Nice.
00:34:13.000 I would never say that, but people tell me.
00:34:16.000 That's what the left says.
00:34:17.000 That's what the left says, yes.
00:34:19.000 I have a hard time with Tucker lately because I think he can make the point without doing it the way he does.
00:34:25.000 So, for example, we know, we know, we know without a doubt that Russia is selling arms, or I'm sorry, that Ukraine is selling arms to Mexico, I believe was what it was, that it ended up in the hands of the cartel.
00:34:38.000 We know, we know, we know, without providing any evidence that we know.
00:34:42.000 And he said, well, this is just fact.
00:34:45.000 It's not even in doubt.
00:34:46.000 And he says that about stuff that you're like, well, hold on.
00:34:48.000 Have you proven that?
00:34:49.000 Because you've said that, and you've had people on that have some theories about that, potentially, but they don't have any evidence of that.
00:34:56.000 And that's typically where we have to go with these things.
00:34:59.000 And so saying that I know that this will end up in thousands of deaths, this is what the Pentagon says.
00:35:04.000 This is absolutely what the war game says.
00:35:06.000 Do you know that?
00:35:07.000 Or are you just guessing?
00:35:08.000 Like, you can say, hey, I'm worried that this may end up leading to thousands of deaths if this happens and escalates, but hopefully it does not.
00:35:15.000 In the past, it seems like it has not, but maybe now is the time where the Iranian regime reaches out and touches us and it hurts in a different way. 0.93
00:35:22.000 That would be different.
00:35:23.000 That's not what he said.
00:35:24.000 And that's not what Tucker has been saying.
00:35:26.000 Tucker has been increasingly definitive.
00:35:29.000 Now, I also, I honestly am not 100% on this, but I'm really, really close to being 100% that I think he does absolutely love his country.
00:35:40.000 The reason I say I'm not 100% is not because I think there's some like sliver of actually he doesn't love his country.
00:35:46.000 I'm just saying he says some stuff sometimes that makes it seem to me like he does not love his country, like the Moscow thing, like saying they're better than us.
00:35:53.000 To me, that's just a little weird.
00:35:54.000 It's a little like, that's not just pushing us to do better.
00:35:57.000 That's propping something up as propaganda and saying we need to achieve this propaganda status.
00:36:03.000 And I just don't know what to do with that.
00:36:05.000 And so that's that 0.01%.
00:36:07.000 Everything else he says, though, is I'm not leaving here.
00:36:09.000 I love this country.
00:36:10.000 I'm going to live here.
00:36:11.000 I'm going to die here.
00:36:11.000 My parents are here.
00:36:13.000 Everything's here.
00:36:14.000 I love this country.
00:36:15.000 I believe that.
00:36:17.000 But there's just something right now with Tucker that I'd like to see change.
00:36:22.000 But I think his heart might be completely in the right place on a lot of these things.
00:36:26.000 But the execution, especially on the Russia thing, to me as well.
00:36:29.000 And the Qatar thing. 0.66
00:36:30.000 Like, I'm not sure that Qatar has been the greatest force for good in the world either. 0.71
00:36:34.000 We've done an episode on them, I believe, or a video talking about some of those things.
00:36:38.000 So those two things specifically are weird.
00:36:40.000 There may be more.
00:36:41.000 I understand why Qatar exists and what purpose they serve.
00:36:45.000 Yeah.
00:36:45.000 I do.
00:36:46.000 Serving as an intermediary is very valuable.
00:36:48.000 I get it.
00:36:48.000 Even if you have to be friends with people we don't like.
00:36:51.000 With the Russia thing, they'll point and say, well, why is it wrong to look at another country and see what we could do better?
00:36:56.000 Okay, well, we've clearly been in a geopolitical struggle with Russia forever, and it's not something that we created.
00:37:01.000 We have inherently different visions of how we're going to be able to do it.
00:37:03.000 Is Pyongyang nice?
00:37:04.000 Pyongyang is gorgeous.
00:37:05.000 Okay.
00:37:05.000 And a bunch of people that look rich.
00:37:07.000 Did Tucker ever go and say, did he pull up a map?
00:37:10.000 Did he pull up a video?
00:37:11.000 Did he pull up Google Earth?
00:37:12.000 pull up anything and say, hey, Pyongyang's nice.
00:37:14.000 I wish Washington, D.C. could be as good as...
00:37:17.000 But you know what else he didn't do that with?
00:37:20.000 Tokyo.
00:37:21.000 No.
00:37:21.000 Or Taipei.
00:37:23.000 Or Singapore.
00:37:24.000 All countries that have Warsaw.
00:37:27.000 You could have done it with Warsaw and made the Euro-ethnic argument as well.
00:37:33.000 But he didn't.
00:37:34.000 He chose a very specific country at a very specific time.
00:37:37.000 And I don't know what kind of motive I could put onto that.
00:37:41.000 I don't know.
00:37:42.000 It's confusing.
00:37:42.000 And it sucks because right before he gave that interview, he was being called a Russia shill by everybody before he went to talk to Putin.
00:37:50.000 And I'm like, why wouldn't you go talk to Putin?
00:37:52.000 Of course that would be a great interview.
00:37:53.000 Like we had your money.
00:37:54.000 No one was doing that.
00:37:54.000 You had to do that.
00:37:55.000 The problem is when you went to the grocery store and you went to the subway station, you went to the grocery store and I can't remember what the stat was, but that was actually like the average Russian's income couldn't afford the basket of groceries that he had.
00:38:07.000 And then saying how nice this was and obviously the propaganda piece at the railway station or the subway.
00:38:12.000 So that was, yeah.
00:38:13.000 And on Candace, I don't really know.
00:38:15.000 We've obviously been cross with Candace in certain ways and in some ways not as much.
00:38:19.000 But I think they say it looks increasingly like they just say what maybe they're led to believe.
00:38:30.000 I'm not sure how many of these people are actually super principled.
00:38:34.000 That sucks because we have had conversations and we have had unpopular opinions.
00:38:40.000 And we have said, at the very least, we are standing on principles of what we believe.
00:38:44.000 And so when Donald Trump does good, we say good.
00:38:46.000 When he does bad, we say bad.
00:38:47.000 When Israel does good, we say good.
00:38:48.000 When they do bad, we say bad.
00:38:51.000 When Ukraine is being attacked, in the very first stages of this war, we say, Russia, bad, and you absolutely have to get them out. 1.00
00:38:58.000 Get Ukraine all the support that they Need after it becomes increasingly clear that there is not going to be a negotiated settlement based on reality.
00:39:05.000 We're saying, guys, we've put too much money into this to continue funding this thing, knowing that there really isn't going to be an end.
00:39:11.000 There's no clear way out of this thing, and so we should probably stop sending our money over there, and Europe should probably start picking up their fair share of this tab.
00:39:18.000 This is not really our war.
00:39:19.000 Like, I think all of those things are very fair to say, and they're kind of on both sides of an issue.
00:39:24.000 And if we get something wrong, we say, you know what, I was wrong.
00:39:26.000 Yeah, it's like the laundry football league.
00:39:28.000 These other guys that was wrong.
00:39:31.000 It was, well, at the beginning, I was like, hey, this is a great investment.
00:39:34.000 Oh, they were like a tenth of a penny per share.
00:39:38.000 I owned a million shares in this league.
00:39:40.000 Then, you know, you start watching it and you go, ah, this kind of sucks.
00:39:44.000 It's not really getting a TV coverage.
00:39:46.000 Is it a tenth of a penny?
00:39:47.000 Never mind.
00:39:48.000 You didn't put $100,000.
00:39:50.000 No.
00:39:50.000 I thought you said a penny.
00:39:51.000 No.
00:39:53.000 I was like, hey, I got to collect my losses here.
00:39:56.000 Get the heck out.
00:39:57.000 You don't invest an apple instead.
00:39:58.000 You don't collect losses.
00:40:00.000 You cut your losses.
00:40:01.000 You cut your losses.
00:40:01.000 No, I collect mine.
00:40:02.000 You can collect your gains.
00:40:03.000 Okay, anyway, next chat.
00:40:06.000 I keep them in a jar.
00:40:07.000 It's empty.
00:40:08.000 You're not the best color man in the business for no reason, Josh.
00:40:12.000 I don't think anybody calls me that.
00:40:14.000 Next chat.
00:40:16.000 Called you a color man.
00:40:17.000 Color.
00:40:17.000 Yeah.
00:40:17.000 Color, not color.
00:40:19.000 You don't say that either.
00:40:20.000 I'm a man of color.
00:40:20.000 It's different.
00:40:21.000 Whatever.
00:40:21.000 Land that D. You guys have the same thing.
00:40:23.000 Next chat from Andro Smitty.
00:40:26.000 Question for the crew.
00:40:27.000 With the show of force blowing these sites up, do you think this makes China question their intentions with Taiwan while Trump is in office?
00:40:35.000 Lane was on TV last night talking about this.
00:40:37.000 Lane, what do you think?
00:40:38.000 No.
00:40:40.000 Maybe to a minute degree, but I think all of that I think China's decision, Xi Jinping's decision to move or not move on Taiwan is predicated largely on domestic factors and where he sees his own mortality.
00:40:56.000 I think it's less likely to happen under Trump if he thinks that he can wait it out a couple years.
00:41:02.000 But if the point came where he thought, well, Trump is actually going to make it so it will be impossible for us to do in the future, I think he would move on it then.
00:41:09.000 I think domestic factors are motivating him more.
00:41:13.000 But that being said, I guess I'll take back my previous statement a little bit.
00:41:17.000 He would think twice about it and hold off.
00:41:20.000 He would be more likely to hold off under Donald Trump, but I don't think it would, we could say definitively that it would stop him from doing that.
00:41:27.000 No, but I mean, it doesn't hurt our case.
00:41:28.000 Correct, correct.
00:41:30.000 Showing a force is not the worst thing in the world to be able to do and to be like, hey, these guys showed up there unannounced, took it out.
00:41:36.000 You saw Top Gun Maverick, same thing.
00:41:38.000 Let's put it that if he thinks he can do it in 2027 and also.
00:41:44.000 Oh, and also thinks he can do it in 2029, he'd wait to 2029 to do it.
00:41:49.000 Yeah.
00:41:49.000 Because he's much more, much, much less likely to succeed.
00:41:52.000 How likely is it this even happens?
00:41:54.000 I feel like at this point, you're starting to get to the point where a lot of people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard this before.
00:41:59.000 Same kind of thing that you're dealing with with Iran getting the nuke.
00:42:02.000 Like, I'm not saying it's accurate.
00:42:03.000 I'm saying that, you know, people have heard this case made many, many, many times.
00:42:06.000 I think it's happening.
00:42:07.000 You think it is?
00:42:08.000 I think it's happening.
00:42:09.000 Even though, well, you know, that means a large, like, unless they're banking on the world not responding.
00:42:14.000 Right.
00:42:14.000 If the world responds, that means that China suffers economic destruction in massive ways.
00:42:20.000 Unless there is an internal sort of revolution against Xi Jinping's leadership before he dies, I think it will happen.
00:42:27.000 So they're making the calculation that they'll just write it out?
00:42:30.000 They'll write it out.
00:42:30.000 But the Japanese had very specific goals that we were getting in the way of, and they thought there was an apex point of their power that they could achieve those goals, and they took a shot, even though they knew that it wasn't a good shot.
00:42:42.000 Xi Jinping is very ideal.
00:42:43.000 He's a bad shot.
00:42:44.000 He's a dog.
00:42:45.000 Jerks.
00:42:45.000 And his entire legacy that he's framed for himself is being greater than Mao and doing something Mao couldn't.
00:42:52.000 And that would be quote-unquote reuniting China and Taiwan together as one China.
00:42:57.000 And so I don't think unless the party itself works to remove him or strip him of his.
00:43:03.000 What if they come up with a different goal?
00:43:05.000 That's the goal.
00:43:06.000 What if they could do something else that makes him greater than Mao?
00:43:08.000 That would be ideal, right?
00:43:10.000 It would, but that's probably taking Korea or something at that point.
00:43:14.000 I care a lot about both.
00:43:15.000 So let's not do that.
00:43:16.000 Okay, we're going to take one more chat.
00:43:19.000 Final chat.
00:43:20.000 Make it a good final chat.
00:43:21.000 Okay, well.
00:43:22.000 Fantastic chat.
00:43:23.000 Listen, no pressure.
00:43:25.000 I don't know if that's good enough.
00:43:27.000 All right.
00:43:27.000 Next chat from Agrathos.
00:43:30.000 While Israel launching an attack on the heels of a ceasefire was a dick move, was this the best thing to happen for Trump's national image as he proved he prioritizes America first?
00:43:40.000 Yeah, look, I mean, Trump took a situation that wasn't necessarily great and turned it into something that I think is very iconic.
00:43:46.000 You know, Stephen was almost kind of joking when he said that this is up there with all these other kind of famous presidential lines, you know, tear down this wall and nothing to fear but fear itself or famous lines, you know, in history.
00:43:59.000 I kind of think so too.
00:44:00.000 I mean, you may not like what he said, and a bunch of people in Israel are probably pissed off at him and, you know, frustrated with this, but that's good.
00:44:06.000 You know, like that's actually kind of a good thing for them to get a little bit of a dose of reality.
00:44:11.000 Like we are the reason that you exist as a nation, as a country right now.
00:44:17.000 And I'm not removing the hand of God from any of that.
00:44:20.000 And I'm also not placing any special like super privileges on Israel as a nation right now, as the nation of Israel in the Bible.
00:44:27.000 So I know we can have that conversation.
00:44:29.000 That's something maybe we'll do for a Friday episode at some point.
00:44:32.000 But I think he took a very bad situation and turned it into a very good situation.
00:44:36.000 And it looks like the peace is holding, or at least the ceasefire is holding right now.
00:44:41.000 And both sides have kind of gotten things out of their system.
00:44:43.000 Now, understand too, that there was an initial, it seemed like there was a, okay, we're going to have a ceasefire here in six hours.
00:44:50.000 I'm going to bomb the hell out of you for the next four. 1.00
00:44:52.000 And there was responses to that.
00:44:54.000 And then there was questions about the response to the response.
00:44:56.000 And can I let this guy have the last word?
00:44:57.000 Or do I get the last word?
00:44:59.000 And that's kind of normal.
00:45:00.000 I mean, you talk, unfortunately, a lot in World War I happened after they basically had said, hey, this war is going to be over at this time.
00:45:07.000 And so there were a bunch of commanders that basically said, okay, well, they're going to freeze the lines where they are.
00:45:11.000 So let's go ahead and try to get a little bit more territory right before a ceasefire.
00:45:16.000 So it's not uncommon for those things to happen.
00:45:19.000 But what is uncommon and what people did not expect is for Donald Trump, the president of the United States, not on a hot mic somewhere in B-roll land, not somebody with a recorder on that he didn't know about, but directly to the press as he was walking to Marine One saying that they don't know what the F they're doing.
00:45:38.000 That's a moment that'll go down in history, and hopefully, hopefully, we won't have to talk about Israel for a very, very long time. 0.99
00:45:47.000 Stick around.
00:45:47.000 We're going to send you over.
00:45:48.000 Who are we going to send these guys to right now?
00:45:50.000 Russell's stream's open.
00:45:52.000 I think Tim is probably winding it down.
00:45:54.000 All right, perfect.
00:45:54.000 We'll send you guys over to Russell.
00:45:56.000 Have a great day.