#38 — The End of Faith Sessions 2
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It is often argued that religious beliefs are somehow distinct from other claims to knowledge about the world. What does this mean, and why does it matter? What role does the brain play in such matters? And what role does logic play in them? In this episode, I try to answer these questions and suggest a possible explanation for why we should not be free to believe whatever we want about God, as we are free about science and history, or about whatever we think we want when using words like "poison" or "zero" and "nothing" in order to justify our belief in something we don't even understand. But is there any reason to believe that God exists at all? And why do we need to have beliefs about God to be able to see the world? And how can we make sense of the world if we have no idea what we are supposed to believe about it? This is the first part of a two-part series exploring the nature of beliefs and their relationship to the world we live in, and how they come about? and why they matter so much to us. in the second part of the book, "End of Faith Sessions: A Case of Belief." by Sam Harris. If you're interested in learning more about religion and belief, then you'll need to listen to the second half of this book. This book is a must-listen episode. in which Sam talks about the role of the brain and memory in our understanding of God in our lives. and our relationship with the world, and the role that God plays in our existence. of God and the world of which God plays a key role in all of our beliefs in our world and how we can learn about God's existence and what we can do with God and the importance of God s existence in our reality and God s role in the universe and so on, and what God is really is in the creation of God's creation and existence from the first place and how we should believe in God s creation what we should have in the world . to be free of God, and so that we can be free from doubt and understanding God so we can have a better understanding of Him more of God . to have a more meaningful relationship with Him and more so that he to become a better God to us etc., etc. etc.
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Today I'm going to continue with the End of Faith Sessions, Chapter 2.
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It is often argued that religious beliefs are somehow distinct from other claims to
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There is no doubt that we treat them differently, particularly in the degree to which we demand
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in ordinary discourse that people justify their beliefs.
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But this does not indicate that religious beliefs are special in any important sense.
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What do we mean when we say that a person believes a given proposition about the world?
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As with all questions about familiar mental events, we must be careful that the familiarity
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The fact that we have one word for belief does not guarantee that believing is itself a unitary
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While people commonly refer to their failures of, quote, memory, decades of experiment have shown
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Not only are our long-term and short-term memories the products of distinct and dissimilar
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neural circuits, they have themselves been divided into multiple subsystems.
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To speak simply of memory, therefore, is now rather like speaking of experience.
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Clearly, we must be more precise about what our mental terms mean before we attempt to
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Even dogs and cats, insofar as they form associations between people, places, and events, can be said
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But this is not the sort of believing we are after.
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When we talk about the beliefs to which people consciously subscribe, the house is infested
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with termites, tofu is not a dessert, Muhammad ascended to heaven on a winged horse.
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We are talking about beliefs that are communicated and acquired linguistically.
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Believing a given proposition is a matter of believing that it faithfully represents some
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And this fact yields some immediate insights into the standards by which our beliefs should
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In particular, it reveals why we cannot help but value evidence and demand that propositions
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These constraints apply equally to matters of religion.
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Freedom of belief, in anything but the legal sense, is a myth.
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We will see that we are no more free to believe whatever we want about God than we are free
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to adopt unjustified beliefs about science or history, or free to mean whatever we want
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Anyone who would lay claim to such entitlements should not be surprised when the rest of us stop
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The human brain is a prolific generator of beliefs about the world.
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In fact, the very humanness of any brain consists largely in its capacity to evaluate new statements
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of propositional truth in light of innumerable others that it already accepts.
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By recourse to intuitions of truth and falsity, logical necessity and contradiction, human beings
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are able to knit together private visions of the world that largely cohere.
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What must a brain do in order to believe that a given statement is true or false?
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Language processing must play a role, of course,
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but the challenge will be to discover how the brain brings the products of perception,
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memory, and reasoning to bear on individual propositions
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and magically transforms them into the very substance of our living.
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It was probably the capacity for movement enjoyed by certain primitive organisms
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that drove the evolution of our sensory and cognitive faculties.
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This follows from the fact that if no creature could do anything with the information it acquired
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from the world, nature could not have selected for improvements in the physical structures
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that gather, store, and process such information.
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Even a sense as primitive as vision, therefore, seems predicated on the existence of a motor system.
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If you cannot catch food, avoid becoming food yourself, or wander off a cliff,
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there doesn't seem to be much reason to see the world in the first place.
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And certainly refinements in vision, of the sort found everywhere in the animal kingdom,
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For this reason, it seems uncontroversial to say that all higher-order cognitive states,
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of which beliefs are an example, are in some way an outgrowth of our capacity for action.
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In adaptive terms, belief has been extraordinarily useful.
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It is, after all, by believing various propositions about the world
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that we predict events and consider the likely consequences of our actions.
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Whatever they may be at the level of the brain,
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they are processes by which our understanding and misunderstanding of the world
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is represented and made available to guide our behavior.
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The power that belief has over our emotional lives appears to be total.
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For every emotion that you are capable of feeling,
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there is surely a belief that could invoke it in a matter of moments.
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Your daughter is being slowly tortured in an English jail.
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What is it that stands between you and the absolute panic
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that such a proposition would loosen the mind and body of a person who believed it?
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Perhaps you don't have a daughter, or you know her to be safely at home,
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or you believe that English jailers are renowned for their congeniality.
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Whatever the reason, the door to belief has not yet swung upon its hinges.
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The link between belief and behavior raises the stakes considerably.
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Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them.
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Now, as an aside, that is, I think without question,
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the most controversial sentence I have ever written,
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and needlessly so if you actually make any effort to understand it in context.
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But this won't surprise you, and as many of you know,
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and used to paint me as a total maniac who wants to kill people for thought crimes.
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The link between belief and behavior raises the stakes considerably.
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Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them.
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but it merely enunciates an ordinary fact about the world in which we live.
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Certain beliefs place their adherence beyond reach of every peaceful means of persuasion,
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while inspiring them to commit acts of extraordinary violence against others.
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If they cannot be captured, and they often cannot,
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otherwise tolerant people may be justified in killing them in self-defense.
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This is what the United States attempted in Afghanistan,
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and is what we and other Western powers are bound to attempt
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at even greater cost to ourselves and to innocents abroad elsewhere in the Muslim world.
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We will continue to spill blood in what is, at bottom, a war of ideas.
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Let me just highlight a few things that appeared in that paragraph,
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I am talking about the link between belief and action.
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I'm talking about beliefs as principles of behavior.
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It should go without saying that I'm talking about beliefs that are behaviorally effective, therefore.
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I'm talking about the proximate cause of things like suicidal terrorism.
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I'm talking about beliefs that place people, quote,
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while inspiring them to commit acts of extraordinary violence against others.
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So I was never talking about killing people merely for what they think.
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And here I'll go to my website where I responded to some of the controversy
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that that sentence provoked, because, again, I think this is important.
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When one asks why it would be ethical to drop a bomb on Ayman al-Zawahiri,
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the answer cannot be because he killed so many people in the past.
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To my knowledge, the man hasn't killed anyone personally.
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However, he is likely to get a lot of innocent people killed
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for what he and his followers believe about jihad, martyrdom,
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A willingness to take preventative action against a dangerous enemy
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is compatible with being against the death penalty.
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Whenever we can capture and imprison jihadists, we should.
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But in many cases, this is either impossible or too risky.
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If you imagine dropping a bomb on al-Zawahiri or al-Baghdadi,
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Again, I don't know that these guys have personally killed anyone
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But they are part of a machinery that is grinding up innocent lives.
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If you know someone is disposed to act on his beliefs,
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that you would be justified in preventing in a case of self-defense, for instance.
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You don't have to wait to be killed in order to defend yourself.
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And when you ask why it would be ethical to kill someone
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who's in a leadership and propagandistic role in an organization like ISIS or al-Qaeda,
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where they themselves don't kill anyone necessarily.
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It has a lot to do with the contents of their minds.
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All I'm an al-Zawahiri and al-Baghdadi do, as far as I know, is talk.
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And if we could kill them, we should absolutely do it.
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And I'm getting at some part of that question in this statement
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If you're going to conjure some person who believes crazy things
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or cause anyone else to harm anyone on the basis of their beliefs,
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That is precisely the case where beliefs don't matter.
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And I would never have thought, much less suggested,
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that those people should be killed for believing in Jesus, say,
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or believing that Muhammad is the final prophet of the God of Abraham.
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But what's interesting about belief and consequential
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is that in most cases, insofar as something is really believed,
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It shows up in the kinds of public policies people want to fight for.
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And the boundary between a war of ideas and a real war
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we have a choice between conversation and violence.
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We live in perpetual choice between conversation and violence.
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to be pressure tested against new facts and new arguments.
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Dogmatism is a refusal to reason with other people.
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And when that refusal becomes highly consequential,