Mark Slapinski


Carney Survives Budget Vote - Is It Over？!

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Team Polyev Mark Carney Laurie Idlout Matt Jenneru David Cochran Shannon Stubbs Justin Trudeau Andrew Scheer Gord Johns Scott Reid Elizabeth May Jagmeet Singh Leah Gazan Bill C-63 Rosemary

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The government survives its third confidence vote, but not without a major betrayal from one of its own MPs. And the betrayal comes from a woman named Shannon Stubbs, who was in the midst of a medical absence when she voted against the government.

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00:00:00.160 Good evening patriots. Tonight I have some really bad news for you. The Mark Carney government narrowly survived the budget vote, meaning that him and his government will be in power for the foreseeable future.
00:00:10.820 However, it gets worse. A lot worse. Polyev was stabbed yet again in the back by another one of his MPs. Tonight we're going to take a look at that.
00:00:19.300 Tonight there was a confidence vote over the budget and it passed 170-168, meaning that there won't be a Christmas election and Mark Carney will stay in power at least a little while longer.
00:00:30.100 Now this is where it gets weird. The Bloc kept their word and voted no. The NDP mostly voted no. However, two conservative MPs abstained from voting.
00:00:40.140 And this includes the traitorous MP Matt Jenrow, who suspiciously announced his resignation on the same week that Mark Carney unveiled his budget.
00:00:47.600 And the betrayal also comes from another relatively unknown figure, a woman named Shannon Stubbs from Alberta.
00:00:53.980 Now according to her spokesperson, Stubbs was recovering from a surgery. However, there's evidence to contradict that. And there was a video posted to her ex-account earlier today, which I'll show you.
00:01:04.500 Hey, if you thought the Liberals' war on Canada's natural resources was bad enough, wait until you hear this.
00:01:09.640 Last year, the Liberals passed Bill C-59 that rewrote the Competition Act to make it nearly impossible for businesses to speak about the environment unless they echo vague and undefined Liberal standards.
00:01:21.940 Conservatives have been speaking out about this anti-development bill and we've committed that we'll repeal it.
00:01:26.740 Now, I don't know about you, but she doesn't look sick to me. And even if she was sick, even if she was in bed, she still could have voted electronically. 0.95
00:01:35.480 The way I see it, her actions, or should I say inactions, were an act of betrayal. She stabbed Polyev in the back.
00:01:43.120 The scary thing is that it looks like the Liberals have bought off more conservative MPs than we previously thought.
00:01:48.840 I knew trouble was brewing. I could see it a mile away. I just didn't know how it was going to play out.
00:01:54.100 So I'm going to show you a clip about the recent budget vote. Before we get into this, I want to remind you I'm still being censored.
00:02:00.700 And I think that's part of the reason you haven't seen my videos recently.
00:02:03.580 If you see this part, let me know in the comments section, give me a quick like, and make sure you're still subscribed. Let's go.
00:02:10.620 Well, you just saw it on Power and Politics. Lots of drama in Ottawa.
00:02:14.640 The Liberal government, though, has narrowly survived its third confidence vote.
00:02:19.700 The Prime Minister Mark Carney's first federal budget has passed.
00:02:24.100 So there will not be a snap election, and Carney gets the green light to move forward with his spending plan.
00:02:37.580 A plan which includes new investments aimed to ease the cost of living for Canadians, along with cuts to the public service workforce.
00:02:46.020 All right. David Cochran's been a very busy journalist over the last two and a half hours.
00:02:50.180 The host of CBC's Power and Politics joins us again.
00:02:53.540 And David, lots of drama. We saw it unfold on your program.
00:02:57.560 You haven't had a lot of chance to reflect on what you reported on.
00:03:00.920 But what stands out to you with this vote?
00:03:02.840 I think what really stands out to me, Ian, is how emphatically clear it is that none of the parties other than the Bloc Québécois wanted an election.
00:03:11.020 And they were all prepared to take steps to make sure that there would not be an election here.
00:03:15.920 You had a couple of the Conservative MPs not vote until the very end of voting, claiming they were trying to use the remote app and that it had failed,
00:03:27.760 which was an interesting move considering that it was the Conservative House leader and the caucus chair were both present in Parliament physically.
00:03:34.260 So there was no reason they would be using the app except to wait until the last minute to see where the votes are and take steps to avoid accidentally bringing down the government.
00:03:43.060 And, of course, the New Democrats who ended up with a split decision from the caucus that the leader and four other of his MPs voting against the budget,
00:03:50.760 but Laurie Edlout and Gord Johns abstaining.
00:03:54.420 Laurie Edlout doing that remotely on the app, even though she was also in Ottawa.
00:03:59.100 But Gord Johns showing up in his seat and staying in his seat.
00:04:03.060 So there's a visual signal there that the Liberals had enough votes to get the budget through.
00:04:09.100 Also, on the Conservative side, there are two extensions I want to note.
00:04:12.020 Shannon Stubbs, who is a true Team Polyev, a member of Parliament not voting, with a medical absence and an approved medical absence to not vote there.
00:04:22.900 But Matt Jenner, Ian, who recently announced that he is soon resigning for politics, will not be seeking re-election,
00:04:30.200 will be quitting his seat at some point in the spring.
00:04:32.400 He is not technically resigned.
00:04:34.880 Maybe he is mentally resigned and will not be participating in these key moments as he has no skin in the game,
00:04:41.740 as he has decided that his political career has come to an end.
00:04:45.220 Now, I just want to interject quickly, the correct word that this guy was looking for is traitor. 0.98
00:04:50.620 Matt Jennerow is a traitor.
00:04:52.200 So either way, the vote in favor from Elizabeth May, which we learned about very early in the day, the abstentions from the Conservative ranks and from the NDP ranks, 0.69
00:05:02.060 enough to get this budget over the line.
00:05:04.760 And there have been confidence votes so far for this government.
00:05:08.100 This is the first real one that we had some uncertainty about.
00:05:10.480 This one, the Kearney government survives and moves ahead on.
00:05:13.560 So no November, December campaign with the January election.
00:05:17.580 So, Ian, you don't need to learn how to do the map because this means I don't have to quit.
00:05:21.360 Yeah, I got to tell you, one of the things I found surprising watching the vote from afar is that,
00:05:29.160 and you live in this world all the time, so presumably it wasn't a surprise to you,
00:05:33.160 but how it just wasn't clear to anyone, including you and Rosemary, for a while what exactly the vote was.
00:05:41.340 I would have thought these days you just, you know, press a button or put up your hand
00:05:45.380 and the counts are instant and have complete clarity, but there was some real uncertainty there for a while.
00:05:51.600 Yeah, you see that with votes in the U.S. Congress, right, where there's a running tally of yeas and nays by party
00:05:57.020 because everything is done by pressing a budget and electronic recording.
00:06:00.880 The Westminster tradition, it is stand on your feet and be counted.
00:06:04.660 The hybrid vote only exists really as a consequence of COVID,
00:06:08.680 where you couldn't cram everybody into a room to keep running a democratically elected government,
00:06:12.720 so you needed to find a way to do it safely around everything.
00:06:17.700 But there is, there have been problems with those votes, there have been bugs technically,
00:06:22.180 so there needs to be a process where you can come on at the end and say,
00:06:25.240 I couldn't vote or my vote was improperly recorded or I pressed yes when I meant to vote no.
00:06:30.360 We saw a bit of that with Leah Gazan, the NDP MP for Winnipeg Center,
00:06:34.240 who clearly voted no, recorded her vote and wanted to come on so she had the opportunity to try to make a speech,
00:06:39.300 which the Parliament jeered about and the Speaker eventually shut down.
00:06:43.700 But, you know, it has also created an opportunity for people to play games,
00:06:47.880 which I think is a little bit what Laurie Idlaut did and what Scott Reid and Andrew Scheer did,
00:06:52.720 because Laurie Idlaut, her vote initially was recorded as no, later changed to an abstention,
00:06:57.860 and she was here in Ottawa.
00:06:59.080 So why was she using the app when Parliament is just right there?
00:07:01.740 And she scrummed like 10 feet that way after the vote was over. 1.00
00:07:05.300 And this was the same thing with Andrew Scheer and Scott Reid.
00:07:08.440 It's not unusual that Conservative MPs in Ottawa might use the vote, use the app to vote remotely.
00:07:14.080 But when you're the House leader, the person who runs the Conservative agenda in the House of Commons
00:07:19.280 on a confidence vote on the budget, you're going to be there, you're going to be there in person.
00:07:23.460 Instead, he wasn't, and neither was the caucus chair.
00:07:25.720 And that allowed them to stand up at the end and say, we wanted to vote no, we couldn't do it on the app,
00:07:30.040 but here we are to vote no, when they knew it would be recorded, but it would not be decisive.
00:07:36.600 So it's pretty clear, nobody wanted an election except maybe the Bloc Québécois.
00:07:40.460 They were true to the word, they voted every single MP to bring down the government and kill this budget.
00:07:45.700 One last thing, we have less than a minute, but if any party got a lot of time in the spotlight after that vote,
00:07:52.460 it was the NDP and their interim leader.
00:07:55.020 And I don't know, was that because maybe they needed to do the most explaining to their constituents?
00:08:00.700 Well, they were the ones who had the courage to come out and explain themselves after the vote,
00:08:04.780 so they at least did that.
00:08:06.540 But you have to remember, one of the motivating factors for them in voting no, at least to a point,
00:08:11.620 was they're kind of tired of being seen as the party that props up the Liberal government.
00:08:15.380 They had the supply and confidence agreement with the Liberals when Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau cut that deal.
00:08:19.880 Not only do they feel like they didn't get credit for that, they feel they got punished for that.
00:08:23.340 And they are determined as much as they can not to live through the life of another minority parliament
00:08:27.560 as the crutch for the Liberal government.
00:08:30.040 That's a whole lot easier with a set of policies that Mark Carney puts in a budget
00:08:33.380 versus what Justin Trudeau would put in a budget.
00:08:36.140 But, you know, as I was pointing out, there were other people who helped this get through,
00:08:39.700 including the Green leader and perhaps a couple of conservatives who were willing to let it happen,
00:08:44.660 if not for the clear signaling from the NDP that it was all over except the actual counting
00:08:50.200 and this government would live to survive another day.
00:08:53.160 Well, two weeks ago, you said on this program, steadfastly, you would not cover another election
00:08:58.180 if one were to happen between now and Christmas.
00:09:00.800 I'm glad we did not have to test your resolve, David.
00:09:03.700 So there you have it.
00:09:04.360 Carney survived the budget vote and there won't be a Christmas election.
00:09:07.640 Why? 0.91
00:09:08.280 Because of two conservative traitors. 0.71
00:09:11.040 Now, Matt Jennerow, I already warned you about.
00:09:13.440 People said he was just taking a break for his family.
00:09:15.920 But as we saw today, it had nothing to do with his family.
00:09:20.140 That's not why he's taking a break.
00:09:21.580 That's not why he's quitting. 0.99
00:09:22.940 He's quitting because he's a traitor.
00:09:24.740 Now, this other woman, Shannon Stubbs, I'm a little unfamiliar with her, 0.57
00:09:28.460 but I want to point out we're not getting off to a good start.
00:09:31.300 Being a traitor and that being the only thing I know about you is not a great way to start off, 0.51
00:09:36.600 to say the least. 0.82
00:09:37.480 Now, CBC is obviously lying when they say nobody wants an election.
00:09:40.940 I wouldn't mind a Christmas election.
00:09:42.840 It doesn't take that long to vote.
00:09:44.160 And I think a lot of my viewers, a lot of my subscribers would say the same.
00:09:47.780 However, I try to look at the bright side and I'm still a bit optimistic.
00:09:51.520 This act of betrayal or these two or three acts of betrayal could be a blessing in disguise.
00:09:56.620 As I've said in previous videos, Polyev needs loyal MPs.
00:10:01.080 I truly believe he'll get into office sooner or later.
00:10:03.960 But when he gets into office, he needs a team of MPs that he can trust. 0.88
00:10:07.980 The fact that these snakes, these traitors are showing their true colors right now 0.89
00:10:11.580 is actually a good thing.
00:10:12.980 This gives Polyev an opportunity to clean up the house.
00:10:16.780 And then when the next election is called, he'll be ready with a good team of solid, loyal MPs.
00:10:22.940 Now, I'm still 100% confident that Polyev will get into office and will form a super majority.
00:10:28.140 I believe that Carney will either be out early next year or at the latest in the spring.
00:10:32.520 Once Canadians wake up and realize just how bad Carney's budget is, Polyev's numbers will skyrocket 0.98
00:10:38.620 and then we can talk about the next election.
00:10:40.960 I know this is probably not the outcome many of you wanted.
00:10:44.020 It's not the outcome I wanted.
00:10:45.780 I wanted Polyev in office before Christmas or sometime around the holiday season.
00:10:50.740 Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.
00:10:53.060 However, I still believe that we're going to win and we're going to win big.
00:10:56.300 My voice mysteriously went missing last Saturday.
00:10:59.860 However, it's about 80% back now, so it should be fine either tomorrow or the day after.
00:11:05.400 Thanks for your well wishes.
00:11:07.080 Thanks for tuning in.
00:11:08.480 Have some faith.
00:11:09.360 We're going to win.
00:11:10.160 Talk to you tomorrow, Patriots.
00:11:11.760 Try to win.
00:11:12.260 Let's get started.
00:11:13.900 We'll be right back.
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