Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.000 it's finally happening just as i predicted the cbc just admitted that mark carney is on his way out

00:00:06.400 and he could be out as fast as two weeks this isn't sensationalism this ain't no click bait

00:00:12.400 this is the real deal right here let's take a look but all of this uncertainty is bundling

00:00:17.360 into budget uncertainty because two weeks from today mark carney's government will present its

00:00:21.920 first budget finance minister champagne will do that and it will need the support of at least one

00:00:26.160 opposition party to pass it and right now government house leader stephen mckinnon is

00:00:30.560 worried that might not happen when i see opposition parties uh not uh ruling out the possibility of

00:00:38.720 voting for the budget uh that's starting to worry me but i think it's them that are misreading the

00:00:43.360 mood of canadians if an election is necessary we would obviously uh reluctantly because we don't

00:00:49.840 think canadians want an election but uh election there will be question of whether there's an

00:00:54.640 election is entirely up to mr carney as the leader of a government with a minority in parliament

00:01:00.880 it's up to him to craft a budget that can win the support of at least one opposition party if mr carney

00:01:09.200 provides a budget that no party can support we'll go take our fight to the canadian people i want to

00:01:14.560 point out this is coming from the cbc this isn't coming from me it's coming from the cbc even the ndp

00:01:20.480 leader don davies has admitted recently on live television ctv that he rejects carney's budget

00:01:26.800 and even he's going to vote against it and get us ready for a new election i've got 30 seconds left

00:01:32.080 are you really willing in your party's position at this point with an interim leader an election of a

00:01:36.560 permanent leader months away to force an election if this if the question of support came down to the

00:01:41.040 ndp over this budget that's a question entirely for mr carney he's no it's a question for you no he's

00:01:46.080 not he's the leader of the minority parliament and it's his job to craft a budget that can win the

00:01:51.280 support of at least one opposition party and we've been very clear on what he would have to do to get

00:01:55.440 our support now it's up to him so the if there's an election coming up which i don't think canadians

00:02:00.320 want or need that's that'll be on mr carney it's happening the ndp actually said in more or less words

00:02:06.480 that it doesn't support carney's budget and is ready to go to a new election that's great news before

00:02:12.320 we go any further i want to let you know my videos they're not getting as much traction as they

00:02:15.840 normally do if you see this part don't forget to like subscribe and let me know whether you saw this

00:02:21.120 in the comment section thanks now let's watch the rest of this interview where the ndp leader don

00:02:26.080 davies rips carney apart for failing to live up to the expectations that he himself set for canadians

00:02:32.000 welcome back to power play prime minister mark carney has finished a series of meetings with

00:02:35.440 opposition leaders and just over 90 minutes he's set to deliver a speech on his so-called budget

00:02:40.320 vision to enact that vision though he will need some support from the opposition because of course

00:02:45.520 his government remains three seats short of a majority in the house of commons so what would

00:02:49.600 it take for the ndp to support the budget interim leader of the party don davies is live with me

00:02:54.320 in studio now hi mr davies it's good to see you again i appreciate you making the time nice to be

00:02:57.760 with you bashi so today we have a list of demands from both the bloc and the conservatives that they

00:03:01.920 would like to see the prime minister meet in order to secure their support do you have such a list

00:03:05.840 well let me set the context for the budget you know it's a very important budget coming up it's

00:03:11.440 the first one in 18 months which has been unusual in the federal sector and i think uh the situation

00:03:18.240 is is pretty dire across the country we face jobs crisis you know there's thousands of auto workers

00:03:23.520 facing the jobs loss we have you know people losing their jobs at imperial oil the forestry sectors

00:03:28.880 uh in charge or in trouble and uh we have uh particular problems with young canadians with

00:03:34.560 unemployment but one in six young people out of work on top of that you have sky high grocery prices

00:03:40.320 rent is unaffordable and the numbers that came out yesterday show that grocery prices are going up

00:03:45.280 you know another four percent rent another five percent and come back ten percent so canadians are

00:03:50.480 really suffering and we're looking for a budget that responds to those uh very real needs for canadians

00:03:58.000 and then on top of that you've got the threat south of the border so i guess the bottom line

00:04:02.640 is there's two different approaches we can take to this budget they can take an austerity approach one

00:04:08.240 with cuts or we can invest in canadian communities and canadian companies and canadian workers and

00:04:14.560 canadian infrastructure and so the ndp has been very clear that we want to see an investment budget

00:04:19.040 one that builds our economy and puts people to work the prime minister says it's going to be both

00:04:22.880 is that possible we'll see you know we've been very clear on the new democrat side what we

00:04:27.680 want to see we've we've said that we will not support an austerity approach we will analyze

00:04:32.160 the budget when it comes out and i think only that's what a responsible opposition party has

00:04:36.400 to do we have to wait and see what the budget contains before we uh before we we can make a

00:04:42.400 decision on it um but we have said we're analyzing it through the lens of whether it's good for working

00:04:47.040 families and we've identified some key areas we want to make sure that this budget creates good

00:04:52.480 family sustaining jobs uh creates non-market affordable housing for canadians and uh supports

00:04:58.720 our healthcare system because we don't think we can have a healthy workforce uh or a healthy workforce

00:05:03.040 i should say goes ahead goes along with a healthy economy so those are kind of the things that we've

00:05:08.080 identified that we need to see in the budget and we'll see what happens all of that would necessitate

00:05:13.440 higher levels of spending which in turn could put a significant upward pressure on the cost of living

00:05:19.040 for canadians are you prepared to deal with the impact of that and by that i mean like are you

00:05:24.320 prepared to support something that makes life more expensive for canadians well governing is about

00:05:28.800 choices you know um we note that mr carney spontaneously and uh without mentioning it during

00:05:34.000 the election talked about five percent gdp spending on the military he announced spending what was it uh

00:05:40.000 nine billion dollars this summer just came out of nowhere uh and if you're talking about a five

00:05:45.440 percent gdp you're talking about 150 billion dollars by 2035 a year so we would rather see

00:05:51.600 that money go into other things uh like housing you would rather just to be clear you would rather

00:05:56.080 canada not meet its commitment to nato no no our commitment to nato was two percent that's nine

00:06:00.800 million dollars this year yes that's that but i'm saying that he had no problem finding that money

00:06:05.200 so but we're also talking about a five percent increase that mr carney has floated and that's

00:06:10.160 that's because what nato members are talking about that's an agreement that they've put in place for 2035

00:06:15.280 yeah no that's five percent is is not a number that anybody has ever floated canada as an acceptable

00:06:21.360 amount of money to spend on on our defense forces was not mentioned during the election uh two percent

00:06:26.960 was the consensus that the parties were talking about as meeting our nato commitments i'm just

00:06:31.040 saying that there's choices that are made the other thing that mr carney did is he has uh cut

00:06:36.480 important revenue sources which have put us in a a revenue problem that we have right now for instance

00:06:41.440 he cut the digital services tax you know a tax that was intended to apply to some of the biggest

00:06:46.560 most profitable country companies in the world and he did that of course to appease mr trump so

00:06:52.000 not only does it hurt our treasury and uh you know we lose money that we need right now to support

00:06:57.840 canadians and the services they need but it's also another appeasement of mr trump that so far hasn't

00:07:03.280 worked but that is that ultimately that was done not just to appease mr trump it was also an

00:07:09.680 irritant with the previous president it's not just this case like if if ultimately the objective is

00:07:15.280 to move negotiations with with the white house along in order to secure support for the sectors

00:07:20.480 and the people that you have just described are so uh so impacted like don't you have to try what

00:07:25.520 you have to try well the liberals told parliament for five years in the house of commons that we had

00:07:31.920 to have a digital services tax that it was only fair to tax huge companies we're talking facebook we're

00:07:38.080 talking x talking elon musk and mark zuckerberg some of the biggest companies in the world that

00:07:43.520 we wanted to to get a fair bit of taxes from the profits they make in canada over 20 million dollars

00:07:49.520 so the liberals i mean they're the ones that told us that we needed it and then after five years

00:07:54.000 doing about face um that doesn't strike me as good policy making what i'm saying is i think that

00:08:01.040 we need to see investment in this upcoming budget this is an opportunity for us to develop the

00:08:06.080 canadian economy to become more self-sufficient to diversify our trade relationships away from

00:08:11.200 united states and and i think that it's not a time to cut services that canadians rely on

00:08:16.320 we're not going to be able to cut our way to success why does creating jobs helping the canadian

00:08:21.200 economy necessitate more spending from the government and i'll ask again i'll put it a

00:08:25.840 different way the debt servicing costs this year are 55 billion dollars imagine how much additional

00:08:31.440 money for health care or transfers to provinces or dental care for example could be offered instead

00:08:36.480 of paying the interest charges on the debt that we hold what you're suggesting more investment on

00:08:42.400 all those fronts would only add to that number and take away from the ability to provide all those

00:08:47.520 other services why is that a good approach well it's a good question to ask the liberals i mean

00:08:51.840 they've been in power for 10 years and they're the ones who got us to the position we're in right now

00:08:55.440 you supported them for forum for a couple years that we did yeah in order to get services for

00:09:00.000 canadians like dental care and uh and pharma care things that actually saved canadians money but

00:09:04.400 you kept them in power to be blunt we did but for specific outcomes you know and uh um but what i

00:09:11.360 would say is this is if if we have a huge deficit problem then why did mr carney uh bring in a cut to

00:09:18.720 the first marginal tax rate which is going to cost us something like 28 billion dollars why did he get

00:09:23.360 rid of the canadians feel overtaxed why did he get why did he get rid of the capital gains inclusion

00:09:29.040 change which they said was essential for intergenerational equity would affect only

00:09:34.320 less than one percent of canadians with an average income of 1.4 million dollars first thing mr carney

00:09:39.120 did he jettisoned that that was 20 billion dollars over five years um the government the digital services

00:09:46.640 tax so he has basically eliminated tens of billions of dollars of revenue sources raised from people who can

00:09:52.960 afford to pay it huge tech companies multi-millionaires in this country um with a p you know the one tax

00:10:01.120 break that he gave which by the way will disproportionately um benefit high income earners not the poorest

00:10:07.040 canadians so that's what they chose to do and of course he's run into a fiscal problem so what i'm

00:10:13.360 saying now is now's not the time to cut services canadians need um at a time when they're really struggling

00:10:19.680 with uh with uh you know trying to make ends meet month to month we need to invest in our country

00:10:25.120 have you relayed like that meeting that you had i think it was on october the 1st correct me if i'm

00:10:28.800 wrong was that focused on the budget was that the message that you relayed to the prime minister and

00:10:33.280 do you believe she will be receptive to it uh well it was our first meeting and we did touch on uh on

00:10:38.800 the general fiscal situation and i was very clear with them as new democrats have been from the beginning

00:10:43.360 is that we're looking for a budget that helps working families it's got to create jobs it has to 0.78

00:10:48.160 create affordable housing it has to support and and protect health care um and uh we will not

00:10:54.000 support an austerity approach um it's absolutely the wrong way to go and you know we'll see what mr

00:10:58.880 carne is going to tell the the nation tonight but um you know now's the time to invest in our country

00:11:05.360 in canadian communities in canadian companies and canadian workers in canadian infrastructure that's

00:11:10.960 the proper response to mr trump i don't think instead of pursuing unilateral concessions and cutting

00:11:16.560 services that canadians need now more than ever now i have a really good feeling about this at the

00:11:21.520 very most it signifies that carney is on his way out and he could be out before christmas at the very

00:11:27.280 least it signifies that carney is losing control of parliament and will eventually have to call a new

00:11:32.320 election to try to win a majority now just to be fair the ndp and the bloc they have a habit of saying

00:11:38.320 one thing and doing another so i'm not 100 optimistic we will have a new election by the end of the year

00:11:44.320 i'm hoping for it but i'm not 100 optimistic but at the very least what i'm trying to say is that

00:11:50.000 this shows that carney won't be around for four years if this is the kind of stuff they're saying

00:11:54.640 now early in carney's term imagine what they're going to say later when he falls in the polls and

00:12:00.640 other parties start to rise in the polls even if carney survives the budget vote which i hope he

00:12:05.520 doesn't but even if he survives he's not going to be around very long i predict we're going to have

00:12:10.080 a no confidence vote early next year poliev is going to swoop in and we're going to have a

00:12:14.400 majority conservative government possibly a super majority even cpac recently put out a video

00:12:20.480 confirming what i'm telling you if you haven't seen it check it out after this one like i always say

00:12:25.600 have some patience have some faith the conservatives are going to get into power

00:12:29.760 and they're going to get into power soon have a great night patriots talk to you all tomorrow

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