π¨ CBC Holds Liberal MP Accountable On LIVE TV
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A Liberal MP went on CBC to do an interview, and what happened next will shock you. A gun lobby advocate leaked a recording of a conversation between two individuals that was subsequently leaked to the press, and in it, a number of things were said that were taken out of context.
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A Liberal MP went on CBC to do an interview. What happened next will shock you.
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United Sangry is the Minister of Public Safety and he joins me now. Hi Minister,
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nice to see you. Thanks for coming in today. Nice to be here JP. I want to start with that
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tape conversation that was subsequently leaked to the press. You say in that tape that the
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municipal police in this country do not have enough resources to enforce this firearms ban
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that has been in place for some time. Why are you going ahead with a buyback program if the police
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are not equipped to actually carry out any sort of enforcement of this ban?
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So let me just contextualize this first of all. So there is a recording that was done on Sunday.
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It was subsequently leaked to a gun lobby advocate and in it a number of things were said.
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You can understand it was a private conversation between two individuals that have known each
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other for many years. There are a couple of issues that I want to address at the outset. So first and
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foremost there's two things that I said. One was regarding compensation, the other was around bail.
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It was said in jest. It was said in the context of two individuals having a conversation about
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a very sensitive issue that I know was important to the individual I was speaking to. Secondly I said
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I talked about this issue proactively because we were going to implement the program. The program was
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coming forward on Tuesday and on Sunday I was advising someone I knew who was very concerned
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about firearms about the program that we're rolling out. I have said that I would have done this
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differently and I still stand by it. I think if I were to redo this from the beginning we could have done
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this differently. The fact is that many elements of it was done along the way. So my preference would
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have meant to do it earlier, not to cause some confusion. There's three different orders in council.
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I would have preferred to do it as a one-shot order in council that would encapsulate all 2500 firearms.
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So a number of things were said I think have been taken out of context. But the clear point for me is
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that I've always been believed in this program. I ran on this program. I have for many years supported
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guns off our streets and this is an important testament to that, the fact that we announced
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the pilot in Cape Breton today. Just for some quick context, the MP in this video is Gary Anandasanguri,
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who is also the public safety minister. He was caught on tape admitting that even he himself does not
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believe in the liberal gun buyback program. He was supporting it publicly, but in private,
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he doesn't support it at all. The interviewer is named JP Tasker, a seasoned journalist with over
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12 years experience at CBC. Now he knows a thing or two about walking the party line. However, for
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whatever reason, he decided to turn on the liberal government and rip this MP apart. Let's watch him
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ruin this man's life. I appreciate that you're raising this idea that you would start from scratch,
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because that is what you said on the tape that you would not necessarily have pursued things
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as they are unfolding now. And it wasn't necessarily about the timeline that you were talking about.
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I understand that's your explanation for those remarks now, but you were saying in this conversation
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with your tenant that if you could redo things from the beginning, you would consider increasing penalties
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for people who have illegal and, you know, unlicensed firearms, that sort of range of things. So
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you were actually talking about stiffer criminal sanctions for people who are unlicensed,
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not necessarily a timeline as you're now saying today. It is both.
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What minister should we believe though, frankly, sir, because we're hearing you speak quite frankly
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and honestly, seemingly honestly to your tenant, and then we're hearing a different tune today.
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Just help our audience understand what do you genuinely believe. Tasker is really growing this
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guy and rightfully so. He deserves it. Now let's watch Gary try to weasel his way out of this.
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Same thing today, JP. So first of all, I do believe that I would have done this differently.
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Every minister has a different approach. Every journalist has a different approach to covering
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a story. So I would have done this differently. Part of it is the timing. Part of it is some of
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the confusion that people may have had. But ultimately, I think we're in a clear, at this
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point, we're clear in terms of where we're going. In terms of issues around penalties, so this is one of
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four different things that we're doing. In December, we've invested $1.3 billion at the border,
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increasing surveillance, increasing capacity, making sure that we have Black Hawk helicopters,
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we have drone capabilities, and we've arranged a new tools for law enforcement at the border to stop
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things such as fentanyl and guns. And that is something we've already done. We committed to
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hiring 1,000 new RCMP and CBSA officers that we anticipate we will do once the budget is done.
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And the third element is what Sean Frazier is working on, which is criminal justice reform,
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which is what I alluded to on that discussion, which is about making sure that criminal,
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violent, repeat offenders have stricter bail and also stricter sentences. And that's the type of work
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that Minister Frazier is doing. So it is a comprehensive approach to guns, not just a one-off
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buyback alone. It is a combination of all these four items that I think will make sure our streets are
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safer. Now that was the biggest non-answer out of all non-answers. Justin Trudeau probably told him
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how to answer like that, but Tasker, he's not going to let him slide. No, no, no. He's going to hold
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him accountable. I want to ask you about that compensation comment that you referenced as well,
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because when you were speaking with your tenant, you said if he was not satisfied with the amount of
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money he would get through the buyback program for his firearms, that you would be willing to
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compensate him personally, to kind of make him whole in terms of how much he paid versus how
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much he's getting from the federal government. You said in your case, what are your losses? You tell
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me I'll personally, I'll compensate you. Was that the right thing to say? No, it was the wrong thing
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to say. It was said in, in, in just, it was said in a private conversation between two individuals that
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know each other. I hate, I was trying to weasel out of this. Just admit it. You're a duplicitous fool.
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You got caught. Nobody trusts you anymore. Nobody likes you anymore. It's time to resign. But he's
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playing this game that, oh, I was joking. Oh, I wasn't serious. It was a private conversation.
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It's like, dude, listen, you're the public safety minister. The word public is literally in your job
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title. Nothing you do or say while you're employed by the federal government, especially at that level,
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is private. You're a public figure. You weren't joking. And you're rightfully getting called out
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just admit it. Will he admit it? We'll see. The broader issue here is the compensation that's
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available to Canadians. It's insufficient for some, I guess. And you're willing to top it up.
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Well, I think he was making the point it was insufficient. So my point right now is that as we
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roll this out, we have the numbers that we have come up with per each of the items is based on
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evidence and based on advice that we received from experts. So when you buy a brand new car and you
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turn in a car that's, you know, say three years old, you're not going to get the same amount of
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money for the same car. Similar principle applies here. You mentioned to Quebec, you know, when he's
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pressing you in the audio, why are you going ahead with this? And you essentially say, well, Quebec's a
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very different place and that the electorate there expects this government to deliver on the firearms
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commitment. Do you genuinely believe in this program or is this just about satisfying voters in
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Quebec as you suggested in your call with the tenant? Oh boy, Gary's getting really nervous
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right now. You can see him slowly tensing up. He's twiddling his fingers. He's trying to act all
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calm, but inside he's falling apart. He knows his goose is cooked. He probably thought he was going to get
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one of those softball CBC interviews, but no, he's not. He's going to be held accountable this time.
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Let's watch it. So again, relating to Quebec, it is about the number of incidents that have happened,
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mass casualty incidents that took place in Quebec. Quebec City moth shooting was several years ago.
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We were all, you know, I was in politics when that took place. The Dawson attack, assault and a number
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of people died there. You know, we saw what an impact it had on Quebecers. And of course,
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L'Ecole Polytechnique today, Natalie Prevot, the Minister of Nature, Secretary of State for Nature,
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spoke about that and how personally she's been impacted by it. So it is a heightened sense of alert
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in Quebec over guns. People are very, very much impacted by what happened to them, what happened to
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their communities, how ripped apart they felt. And for folks, for example, who survived L'Ecole Polytechnique,
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this has been a 36-year battle that finally, I think, has come to fruition. So it is not in the
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context of politics, it's in the context of this is the expectation, heightened level of expectation
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in Quebec. But it's by no means just Quebec. We know that the Danforth shooting took place.
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Look, I've worked with many youths over the years. I've lost, you know, at least five or six young people
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to gun violence. And this is something that we're all impacted by. And this program that we are
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launching today, the pilot, I believe will help get items such as AR-15s off our streets.
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Gary thinks he's slick. He thinks that he might be able to get his way out of this one,
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but he's not. Are you ready? This is the part where Tasker ruins his life on live television.
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I want to ask you about firearms and firearm crime, because really, when you look at some
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of the statistics from police, it suggests that most of the guns used in the commission
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of a crime in this country don't come from legal firearms owners in this country. They come from
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the United States. I was looking at some of the data. The Toronto Police Service very helpfully
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supplied some. Ninety percent of the guns that they take off the streets as part of a sweep when it comes
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to a crime come from the United States. Illegal firearms from the Americans. Why crack down on
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legal firearms owners who arguably go through very stringent requirements to get a license and then
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have to follow a bunch of paperwork and regulations and what have you. Why go after them and not pour
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the $742 million you've allocated for this gun buyback program into beefing up the things that are
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happening at the border to stop what is really the main source of crime guns in this country.
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Now I know what Gary is thinking. Gary is probably thinking, I should have stayed home today.
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Why the hell did I take this interview? But just watch. Gary continues to dig himself a bigger
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JP, I've outlined the other efforts we're making on firearms, including additional resources at the
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border, additional RCMP, CBSA officers, the changes we're making toβ¦
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Is it public money well spent? You're obviously in a finite budget situation. You're about to cut
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across the board, some 15% if the prime minister gets his way. $742 million that is going to be
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spent on this buyback program. Couldn't you deploy that to other areas, including cracking down on
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where the guns are actually coming from, where these crime guns are sourced, the United States?
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I think in this era where money is tight, does it make sense to expend this sort of money in police
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people who are not largely responsible for the gun crimes that we're seeing?
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Let's be clear. The funds that are being allocated for this is from previous budgets. So,
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the final tranche of it was from the fall economic statement in 2024.
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There are roughly between 80 to 90,000 AR-15s in communities. I'm not so sure that that's the
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appropriate type of firearms to be held in community. I don't think they should be allowed in Canada.
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That's why we banned it. That's why we are compensating people for taking them off their
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shelves. It's a goodwill gesture to make sure that people comply. AR-15s have had lethal consequences
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in Canada. It's been used on a number of shootings. The Mass Casualty Report in Nova Scotia has
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recommended that we have restrictions in place for semi-automatics such as the AR-15.
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And at this point, it is the right thing to do in culmination with the other efforts that we're
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making. I just want to circle back to the first question I asked you about municipal police. I
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take your explanation off the top, but you didn't quite answer that question. When you say on that
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recording that the municipal police in this country don't have the resources to actually follow through on
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policing these firearms that are now banned, are you confident they'll be able to do the job? Or,
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as you said, they're not going to have the resources? I know municipal police. I just don't
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think municipal police services have the resources to do this. Again, if you look at the whole transcript,
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it is in the context of a scenario that individual presented to me, which would be extreme, high risk,
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in a residential neighbourhood, a range of issues where in order to ensure enforcement of that would
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take enormous resources. What is clear to me, though, is that Canadians are law-abiding. They will
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comply with the law. Municipal police forces each and every day make sure that Canadians are safe. They
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implement the criminal code on a range of issues, tens of thousands of issues a day. This is one of those
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issues where they will have to address it. And it will be on a case-by-case basis. But in a general sense,
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when we talk about firearms, oftentimes when somebody passes away, there may be some kind of a return
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of the firearm or surrender to police. It may be found in a context of another law enforcement activity.
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It may be in the context of a raid. It may be in a range of contacts. So in the scenario presented,
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that would be hard if that is the type of incident we're looking at. But in a much broader sense,
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law enforcement have always been able to do their work. And I have every confidence that they will.
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Gary is an absolute moron. Like, what is he talking about? Canadians, overall, are not fully law-abiding.
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Because if they were, why do we need to take the guns away? If we can trust Canadians to do the right
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thing, why take their guns? That doesn't make any sense at all. Gary only has one choice right now.
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He needs to resign. And if he doesn't resign, Carney needs to fire him. Quite frankly,
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I'm surprised Carney hasn't fired this guy already. But, oh, that's right. In the liberal government,
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ineptitude is rewarded. Quite frankly, I think it's actually part of the job description.
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They specifically look for incompetent people to run this country. But overall, that was a great job by
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Tasker. I'm not the kind of person that easily gives praise to the mainstream media,
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but credit where it's due. Tasker did a great job. And Carney is doing such a bad job that even his
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paid propagandist, the one that he gave over a billion dollars every year to, can't defend him
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anymore. That's how you know this guy's in trouble. All I have to say, it was a real pleasure watching
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Gary get embarrassed on live television. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. Like I said before,
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just be patient and have a bit of faith. It's only a matter of time before Paul Yev gets into office
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because these liberal clowns will surely destroy themselves.