Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.000 The CBC, otherwise known as the propaganda arm of the Liberal Party, did something that nobody expected.

00:00:06.620 They actually turned on the Liberals.

00:00:09.020 Now, I'm not being click-baity. I'm not being sensational. I'm being straight with you.

00:00:14.120 Rosemary Barton, known as a big champion of Justin Trudeau, or at least she was,

00:00:19.200 started off this recent interview by asking Mark Carney some really, really tough questions.

00:00:24.240 Let's take a look at that.

00:00:25.280 Thanks for having me, Rosemary.

00:00:26.260 You were elected, I think it's fair to say, in part, to deal with Donald Trump.

00:00:31.540 But since the election, you have dropped retaliatory tariffs, you've given up the digital services tax,

00:00:37.260 and you apologized for an ad that the Premier of Ontario ran.

00:00:40.860 So I'm going to stop the interview for a second. Look at Mark Carney's face right here.

00:00:44.500 Look at that smirk. He thinks he's so smart. He thinks he's so clever.

00:00:48.900 However, the smirk quickly drops from his face once he realizes this interview is not his usual softball interview.

00:00:55.660 It's not the kind of interview you would expect from CBC. No. This is something completely different.

00:01:01.080 I guess Canadians might want to know whether we are any further ahead for doing or not doing any of those things.

00:01:06.960 Well, we are in a lot better position than we were nine months ago.

00:01:10.460 The challenge remains that the United States has fundamentally changed its trading relationships with everybody in the world, Canada included.

00:01:16.240 But one of the points I made right from the start when I was running to be leader of the Liberal Party and then running in the general election is we need to control what we can't control.

00:01:26.460 We can't necessarily control Donald Trump. I think everyone's figured that out.

00:01:30.180 Or the United States of America. What we can control is what we build here at home.

00:01:34.840 Look at the progress we've made. One Canadian Economy Act.

00:01:37.360 OK, we'll go into this, but it's important to underscore because this is what's going to make the big difference for Canadians.

00:01:41.520 Sorry, can I finish? Man, we're not even two minutes into this interview.

00:01:46.200 Mark Carney is already trying to gaslight Canadians on national television. 1.00

00:01:51.000 He thinks people are stupid. At least he thinks the people that are watching this video are stupid. 1.00

00:01:56.440 He thinks he's just going to weasel his way out of this one. 0.99

00:01:59.440 However, for some odd reason that I'm going to speculate on later, Rosemary Byrne is actually being a real journalist for once.

00:02:06.800 Let's watch how she handles this. 0.98

00:02:08.140 We've made huge progress in terms of building here at home, massive progress on new trade deals and relationships abroad.

00:02:16.420 All of that puts us in a stronger position as a country, more independent, better future, stronger negotiating position with the United States.

00:02:25.700 And that's the other piece of what you were. That's the other piece that you were elected on.

00:02:29.540 But you were also elected on standing up to Donald Trump and getting a deal with him.

00:02:33.540 And yet, since you've been elected...

00:02:34.820 And yet we have the best deal of any country in the world, Rosemary.

00:02:38.300 But that's not what you were elected on. You were elected to get a new...

00:02:40.720 Was I not elected to get the best deal of any country in the world?

00:02:42.760 So that's it. I would have thought...

00:02:43.760 So that's it. You're done.

00:02:45.460 Better is always possible, Rosemary. We can always do better than where we are.

00:02:49.700 And we look to do better. But if you look at where we are, relative to other countries, 85% of our trade, as you know, is tariff-free.

00:02:58.620 We have unparalleled access relative to other countries, including Mexico, our partner in Cozumont, to the U.S. market.

00:03:06.960 Now, we are just entering the next phase of these discussions, negotiations.

00:03:11.980 There'll be negotiations in the end around the review of Cozumont.

00:03:15.300 Now, in case you missed it, this interview and what I showed you right here, this is the beginning of the end for Mark Carney.

00:03:21.900 Remember I said that once Canadians realized that Mark Carney misled them, especially about his ability to deal with Donald Trump, they'd turn on him.

00:03:30.100 This is the beginning of the end right here. It's starting.

00:03:33.880 Even Mark Carney's own propagandists are turning on him.

00:03:37.480 The CBC is turning on him.

00:03:39.220 And as I showed you before, other propaganda outlets like CTV have already turned on him.

00:03:44.460 This is really bad for him.

00:03:46.360 Like I said, there's no doubt in my mind that Polyev is going to win the next election and he's going to win big, a supermajority.

00:03:54.500 Now, I know, I know. People criticize me when I use that term.

00:03:58.240 Supermajority isn't an official term in Canada, but I like the ring of it.

00:04:02.120 It's got a nice sound and that's why I use it.

00:04:04.380 And I think the people that watch my videos know exactly what I mean.

00:04:07.580 A majority, but a very big majority with lots and lots of extra seats.

00:04:12.220 So I'm going to let this interview roll for a little bit and then I'm going to give some more commentary at the end.

00:04:16.940 If you don't want to see the CBC interview, I can totally understand.

00:04:20.180 Just skip ahead to the last few minutes where I give some insights.

00:04:23.140 I also want to remind you really quick, I'm being heavily censored on YouTube and that's probably why you haven't seen my videos recently.

00:04:29.120 If you see this part, let me know in the comment section.

00:04:31.900 Give me a quick like and make sure you're still subscribed.

00:04:35.180 Some people subscribe and then they find out later that YouTube actually unsubscribed them.

00:04:39.160 I'm not saying that happens to everybody, but it happens to some people and it's really weird.

00:04:43.440 So just double check.

00:04:44.640 So let me ask you what you understand Donald Trump's position on Kuzma to be right now.

00:04:49.640 You had that meeting with him and President Scheinbaum not too long ago.

00:04:52.980 Yes.

00:04:53.180 At that point, did he say the deal is dead?

00:04:55.420 I'm ripping it up.

00:04:56.280 What indications did you get?

00:04:57.700 He did not say any of those things.

00:04:59.300 What we talked about, the two presidents and myself, we talked about the process for reviewing, renegotiating Kuzma.

00:05:10.280 We talked about potential timelines, although we didn't settle on specific timelines for that.

00:05:15.260 The expectation is that it's going to unfold over the course of 2026.

00:05:20.660 If I'm fortunate to be with you this time next year, we'll be talking about that progress.

00:05:26.420 So that's the first thing.

00:05:27.580 The second is, I will refer back to what I just said and what I've been saying from day one.

00:05:32.820 Control what we can control, what we can't.

00:05:35.040 We can't necessarily control.

00:05:36.640 The U.S. objectives do move around in these trade discussions, whether it's with the European Union, Japan, China, Canada.

00:05:44.560 They do move around.

00:05:45.380 Our discussions, my discussions with the president, President Trump, as have been President Sheinbaum's discussion with President Trump, has been there will be a review and adjustment to Kuzma, USMCA, as the Americans call it.

00:05:59.040 Not that there will be any, as you just said.

00:06:02.940 Leaving it entirely.

00:06:03.920 Leaving it entirely.

00:06:04.600 The sectoral tariffs that you seem to be close to dealing with, whether it was reducing them or getting rid of them, is that not part of the negotiation?

00:06:13.520 That will necessarily be part of the negotiation.

00:06:18.860 From our perspective, those are hugely important.

00:06:21.080 And look, the United States needs to make a choice around these, which is, does it recognize, appreciate that the U.S. itself is in a stronger position if there is relatively free and free movement of automobiles, steel, aluminum, lumber, aerospace across the U.S. border or not?

00:06:42.880 And how it views its competitors.

00:06:45.620 Does it view its competitors as Canada or does it view its competitors as China?

00:06:50.660 And these are perspectives that the U.S. takes different views on at different points in time.

00:06:58.300 And the Kuzma discussion, that review discussion, will be part of it.

00:07:02.280 In the meantime, what we are going to continue to do is build this country.

00:07:06.380 That's what Canadians want.

00:07:07.680 And we're going to continue to deepen our trading relationships abroad.

00:07:10.720 Both of those things are good in and of themselves, but both of them put us in a stronger position with the U.S.

00:07:16.520 We are in a stronger position today with the United States than we were at the start of the year.

00:07:21.880 But only because, and I shouldn't diminish it, not only because, but because of what you're trying to do inside the Canadian economy, not because of anything that you've gotten from Donald Trump.

00:07:31.720 Well, we did get what we what we got is in August 1st is the president confirmed that 85 percent of trade being tariff free, the best deal of any country with the United States.

00:07:45.420 That's having the best deal is pretty good, Rosie.

00:07:47.900 Now, as I said a moment ago, it can be better.

00:07:51.460 It's in, obviously, Canada's interest for it to be better.

00:07:54.700 We will do other things at the same time.

00:07:57.180 We think it's in the U.S. interest as well, but the U.S. will make that choice.

00:08:00.420 They will.

00:08:01.140 It's their decision in terms of how much they want to have an integrated auto industry, which they have had for my entire life.

00:08:11.920 They're taking a different path right now.

00:08:13.760 We'll fight hard to change that opinion.

00:08:16.340 But at the same time, we'll create new opportunities for Canadians.

00:08:18.920 You seem to get along well with the president.

00:08:20.700 I wonder whether you think that matters, whether that personal relationship that you've developed is helping at all.

00:08:29.560 I'll refer back to we have the best deal.

00:08:32.160 That's a starting point.

00:08:33.180 I think my view is that the U.S. respects strength.

00:08:39.800 The president respects strength.

00:08:41.620 He respects people.

00:08:42.560 He sees that in you?

00:08:44.100 Well, it's for him to answer.

00:08:45.720 He wants to be a great man like me.

00:08:47.320 That's what he said in public.

00:08:48.920 That's kind of a good line.

00:08:50.820 I enjoyed it, at least.

00:08:54.500 And, you know, so being direct with him and what our objectives are and how we see it, that's important.

00:09:01.580 But also he respects.

00:09:02.960 He respects that the UAE wants to invest $70 billion or intends to invest $70 billion in Canada.

00:09:09.080 He respects that we have launched trade negotiations with India, that we have a rapprochement with China, that we are deepening our defense partnership with Europe, that we are increasing our defense spending, bringing it towards that 5%.

00:09:24.320 Yes, he does respect those steps that we've taken.

00:09:26.860 All of those steps are in Canada's interest.

00:09:29.480 All of those steps are in Canada's interest.

00:09:31.240 But, yes, they respect that.

00:09:32.180 You talked about China there.

00:09:33.480 So that is also part of, I think, your response to what is happening with the United States, as you said, India and China.

00:09:38.460 This past spring, though, you said that China is Canada's biggest security threat.

00:09:42.880 Does that mean that we are taking a risk by aligning ourselves further economically or otherwise because of that, because it is, in your view, our biggest security threat?

00:09:53.000 Well, a couple of points here.

00:09:54.500 One is never have all your eggs in one basket.

00:09:57.040 We have too many eggs in the American basket.

00:09:59.700 We would like to maintain that relationship and grow others, but we absolutely need to grow others.

00:10:05.940 And that the S is a capital S at the end of others.

00:10:08.740 So it's India. 0.97

00:10:10.300 It's China. 0.90

00:10:11.560 Yes, it's European Union.

00:10:12.720 It's the UK.

00:10:13.720 It's Thailand.

00:10:14.640 It's Philippines.

00:10:15.480 It's in Africa and beyond. 0.64

00:10:16.920 It's Morocco. 0.64

00:10:17.380 So are the group, all of which we're working on, first point.

00:10:20.000 The risks, and then the question is how deep is the relationship and how clear are the guardrails around that relationship?

00:10:29.240 And there are areas, artificial intelligence, critical minerals, defense, where clearly the security threats are such that we would not have a deep relationship with China in those areas.

00:10:40.800 We would not have deep relationship with many countries in those areas.

00:10:43.800 There's certain partners, European Union is one, UK is another, where we would.

00:10:48.220 But we have a strategic question for our country.

00:10:51.540 How deep those relationships are in those areas with the United States, given our deep integration already with the United States and given the shifting trading relationship.

00:11:02.340 Coming up.

00:11:03.400 We need the investment now.

00:11:05.220 What the country, it's not about me, what the country is getting out of it is action.

00:11:10.160 More from my year-end interview with Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:11:18.220 Stephen Guilbeau resigned from your cabinet.

00:11:27.580 And when he did, he was very critical what it took to get the deal with Alberta.

00:11:32.420 You had to get rid of clean, suspend clean energy regulations.

00:11:36.160 You had to get rid of or not put in place the cap on oil and gas emissions.

00:11:39.460 You had to say, we're willing to not use the tanker ban anymore.

00:11:44.420 There are a lot of Canadians that voted for you based on your bona fides on climate change.

00:11:49.080 And then they see you willing to hand all those things over in order to get some sort of energy deal with Alberta.

00:11:56.440 What do you say to them when they say, you know, we're disappointed this wasn't quite the person we thought it was?

00:12:00.820 I'm the same person, same values, care about the issue fundamentally.

00:12:04.740 And because I care about the issue fundamentally, I care about what gets done.

00:12:09.000 Sure.

00:12:09.360 Not what is put in regulation, not what is said, not what is prohibited.

00:12:14.380 And then nothing happens.

00:12:15.540 So you didn't think any of those things were going to happen?

00:12:17.420 The reality is, look, the reality is there is no carbon capture being built in Alberta.

00:12:22.880 There has not been because of these various measures.

00:12:25.500 There isn't large-scale nuclear being built in Alberta.

00:12:29.240 There are no inter-ties between a clean electricity grid in B.C. and Alberta, which helps through that.

00:12:35.840 The effective carbon price in Alberta is only $20 a tonne.

00:12:42.620 So what we did with Alberta is to change all of that with the MOU.

00:12:48.920 Well, except, with all due respect, you said you can have a pipeline if you do the carbon capture storage.

00:12:55.700 You said we're not going to put a cap on oil and gas emissions.

00:12:59.700 You have to do a large industrial emitter.

00:13:02.360 And you already had a federal backstop to enforce that.

00:13:05.660 So I'm not really sure what you're getting out of it.

00:13:08.620 We need the investment now.

00:13:10.660 What the country, it's not about me, what the country is getting out of it is action.

00:13:15.840 The country is getting investment.

00:13:17.440 Investment in clean energy.

00:13:18.680 Investment in nuclear.

00:13:19.680 Investment in carbon capture.

00:13:21.120 Investment in carbon capture.

00:13:22.800 Most people will hear that and, of course, they think, well, what does that actually mean?

00:13:25.680 It means the equivalent of taking 90% of the cars and trucks off the road in Alberta.

00:13:30.320 These are major investments.

00:13:32.120 Listen, we have too much regulation, not enough action.

00:13:36.360 We're meeting on a day when the results of the previous climate plan are being released.

00:13:44.320 And the fact is we're not going to meet our targets under a climate plan that had all the things in it that you said.

00:13:51.260 Yeah, but it's hard to see, though.

00:13:52.980 We need to get going.

00:13:54.860 It's hard to understand how removing things, policies, that are not going to get us to the targets and potentially building another pipeline will get us there.

00:14:03.540 Rosemary, what gets us there is doing things.

00:14:07.820 And saying that we won't do things and then nothing happening does not, it does not progress.

00:14:13.760 We've had that.

00:14:15.320 It hasn't worked.

00:14:16.820 This government is 100% focused on doing things that are going to reduce emissions.

00:14:21.380 We are going to grow clean energy in this country at a scale never seen before.

00:14:26.340 We put in tax credits in the last budget worth, should be worth more than $40 billion over the course of the budget just from the investment that comes from that.

00:14:34.860 And we're not stopping there.

00:14:35.780 We're not just putting tax credits.

00:14:37.560 I'm going to go on about this.

00:14:38.600 But we're not just putting tax credits and saying, well, if we put the tax credits in, let them come.

00:14:42.900 No, we spend time with the government of Newfoundland and Labrador, with Quebec, with Ontario, with Alberta, with British Columbia to get this moving because we recognize, and I think all the premiers do recognize, that we need to get moving.

00:14:57.460 And I need to keep moving.

00:14:58.860 That's okay.

00:14:59.640 Stephen Gilboa also said that he really believed that this deal was in part because of your concerns around the rise of separatism in Alberta.

00:15:07.100 Is that fair to say?

00:15:07.720 I think it's incredibly important as part of the responsibility of the prime minister, whatever prime minister, to work with provinces, to work with indigenous peoples, to work with labor, to work with all Canadians for common objectives.

00:15:23.760 It is important to work with Canada.

00:15:25.080 Look, I recognize that part of the reason why things haven't been moving in Alberta and other parts of the country is there has been a sense of being dictated to by Ottawa.

00:15:41.460 Now, Daniel Smith and I, Premier Smith and I, don't agree about everything, but we do agree that we want to move forward.

00:15:48.160 So we sat down, our team sat down, we worked this out over several months, we have a plan to move forward.

00:15:53.580 But does that not destabilize the rest of the country?

00:15:57.420 Now you have British Columbia upset that they weren't consulted in advance and not in favor of what you've put on the table.

00:16:03.420 And you have a real, I think, frustration in Quebec as well with where you are with your climate targets at a time when Quebec is heading towards a provincial election and the Parti Québécois promising another referendum.

00:16:17.220 One piece of a broader puzzle.

00:16:19.000 The MOU is one piece of a broader puzzle.

00:16:20.680 I will point out the Prime Minister, the Premier of Quebec, as did the Premier of Ontario, as did the Premier of Nova Scotia, as did the Premier of Saskatchewan, as did the Premier of Manitoba.

00:16:31.020 I can go on.

00:16:31.960 All supported the MOU.

00:16:33.380 All supported the MOU.

00:16:35.120 The MOU creates the possibility of many things.

00:16:40.140 Investment in nuclear, investment in airtight, investment in data centers, investment in carbon capture.

00:16:44.520 Yes, and a potential pipeline.

00:16:46.140 Now we start those discussions with British Columbia, British Columbia with whom we are producing the world's first, you know, zero carbon copper mine.

00:17:00.020 That we are creating a northwest corridor in British Columbia of clean energy, a conservation area the size of Greece, and unlocking the world's lowest carbon LNG in the same time.

00:17:13.500 In partnership with BC, these link together, or they have the potential link together.

00:17:18.680 But these are decisions that we'll take as governments, as different parties.

00:17:22.260 Still ahead, do you like this job?

00:17:25.640 Do I like this job?

00:17:27.460 More of my conversation with Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:17:31.340 When I spoke to Pierre Polyev recently, his message to you was that if you want a majority, you have to go back to the Canadian people to get it, and not do it, by his words, dirty backroom deals.

00:17:52.220 Are you comfortable getting a majority by people crossing the floor?

00:17:55.720 Well, we're in a parliament, and when we pass legislation, we need more people voting for it than against it.

00:18:02.520 I mean, that's the way, last time I checked, that's the way parliament works.

00:18:05.260 Right, but that's not what you're doing now.

00:18:07.000 Now you're attracting MPs to the party.

00:18:10.300 MPs are attracted to what we're doing.

00:18:13.440 So there's no active recruitment happening?

00:18:16.540 Premiers are attracted to what we're doing.

00:18:18.700 I want to go back to what my question was, which was, are you comfortable getting a majority government through people crossing the floor?

00:18:24.040 I am comfortable commanding the confidence of the House of Commons, and getting through the House of Commons, getting support in the House of Commons, and votes, obviously votes and support in the House of Commons, for legislation that is going to protect Canadian communities, that's going to build this country, that's going to make our country more independent, more sustainable, more prosperous.

00:18:44.520 Are there Conservative MPs you would not accept into the Liberal caucus?

00:18:47.380 Look, if people come to me, I make a judgment.

00:18:52.920 Someone who is pro-life or anti-trans, would you accept that person into your Congress?

00:18:56.260 I mean, we're in multiple hypotheticals.

00:19:00.380 I mean, it's not a...

00:19:01.960 So is that a no?

00:19:03.060 It's a neither.

00:19:04.240 It's a non-answer to a question.

00:19:06.820 Is there an active recruitment of MPs from other parties happening?

00:19:11.040 I think that there is a spectrum of MPs with varying degrees of recognition of the serious situation the country is in, varying degrees of recognition that we need action, not slogans, that we need cooperation with the provinces, that we need to come together and work together.

00:19:31.260 Then those individuals face their own decisions about how they can best support that agenda.

00:19:38.860 My job, my job as Prime Minister, our job as the government is to put forward our best view of that agenda.

00:19:45.540 Yes, we will compromise in legislation in committees.

00:19:48.440 You've seen some of that, the border bill, there's compromise, there's compromise on C9, there's other adjustments made in legislation.

00:19:55.380 We will make adjustment for legislation to get through.

00:19:57.980 But yes, if somebody sees that, as Mr. Dantremont and Mr. Ma both saw, that they can support the broad direction of the government, and they want to join the governing party, then they have and they will, and they're very much welcome.

00:20:13.820 As you said, you weren't in this space a year ago, the political arena, not formally, anyway.

00:20:19.900 You were considering things, I think that's fair to say.

00:20:21.720 What has surprised you about this job, as someone who has led these big organizations and done other things, what is surprising about this role?

00:20:30.720 I think, I mean, there's, I mean, the main thing that jumps out at me is something I knew but hadn't experienced.

00:20:36.720 So, in that regard, it's surprising just how real, the relentless nature of the job, it's obviously 24-7, 365, and just the span of issues for which you're ultimately responsible in this role.

00:20:51.720 Of course, the way to run big, complex organizations with many responsibilities is you delegate responsibility and…

00:20:58.720 Are you good at doing that?

00:21:00.720 I think I am pretty, I think I am, yes.

00:21:04.720 I think there's, well, it's not for me to judge.

00:21:07.720 There are some people who were here under previous governments, previous situations, they can judge the degree of delegation.

00:21:12.720 What will come with that is that people won't always say the same thing and talking, but that's great.

00:21:18.720 That's, that's fine.

00:21:19.720 That's, that's healthy.

00:21:20.720 You know, that's normal life.

00:21:22.720 People don't all say the same thing at the same time.

00:21:23.720 But that is the challenging part of the job.

00:21:25.720 Is it not that sometimes you have people who are not happy with what you're doing, openly critical of it, willing to walk away from cabinet, for instance?

00:21:32.720 Look, would I rather that, if we bring it back to Stephen Dubow, for whom I have tremendous respect, would I rather he had stayed in cabinet?

00:21:44.720 Yes.

00:21:45.720 Would I rather he had been there to see what transpires with the Alberta MOU, to see our climate strategy come out, our nature strategy come out early in the new year, both of which, both of which will happen?

00:21:58.720 Yes.

00:21:59.720 So he will, he will continue to inform that, but from, from farther away.

00:22:04.720 But I respect, look, I respect those decisions.

00:22:07.720 And, but if that was, if that was true, if you wanted him to stay in cabinet, why did you go about it the way you did?

00:22:13.720 Because he didn't know the details.

00:22:15.720 He did.

00:22:16.720 He knew the details.

00:22:17.720 So what, the, the things that are out there that he has said are not true?

00:22:20.720 I don't know what he's, I don't follow everything he says, but he knew what was in the MOU.

00:22:25.720 And, and.

00:22:26.720 And elements of the MOU were changed, consistent with his views.

00:22:29.720 So, so, once he saw the deal, you asked him for more input and were willing to change them because.

00:22:35.720 I did change parts of it.

00:22:36.720 But Alberta was not happy with the changes?

00:22:38.720 No, they, they accepted the changes.

00:22:39.720 Okay.

00:22:40.720 So, so then what is your understanding of what he wasn't happy with?

00:22:42.720 I, I, well this, these are, these are questions for him.

00:22:45.720 Well I asked Mr. Gilbo, but what did he tell you about things then?

00:22:47.720 I don't look into.

00:22:48.720 What did, what were you not able to give him?

00:22:49.720 We have a different approach.

00:22:50.720 Yeah.

00:22:51.720 We have a different approach.

00:22:52.720 And I think what matters, what matters for Canadians, what's ultimately going to matter

00:22:57.720 for the planet, for the climate, what's going to matter for affordability for Canadians, what's

00:23:01.720 going to matter for the competitiveness of our businesses, is are we actually getting emissions

00:23:07.720 down?

00:23:08.720 Are we actually doing large scale investment in hydroelectric power, in nuclear?

00:23:12.720 Are we actually doing, actually doing something which was not on the table this time last

00:23:17.720 year?

00:23:18.720 50 to 60 gigawatts, which is an enormous amount of offshore wind in Nova Scotia that links

00:23:23.720 in and creates whole new industries.

00:23:26.720 That's what we're working on.

00:23:27.720 What is the biggest challenge ahead for 2026?

00:23:29.720 Is it Donald Trump and how to deal with that?

00:23:32.720 Or is it something else that we haven't contemplated yet?

00:23:35.720 I think it's, I think the biggest challenge, which we're, we're, we're ready for, I think

00:23:42.720 as a government and absolutely as a country, is not letting, the US situation is serious.

00:23:49.720 We're going to work hard and we're going to negotiate on that.

00:23:52.720 But focusing, remaining focused, focus on what we can control, focus on building here

00:23:57.720 at home.

00:23:58.720 And yes, finishing these trade and other discussions abroad.

00:24:01.720 That's what is going to have, that will have a bigger payback over time.

00:24:05.720 Both of those individually and collectively for this country.

00:24:09.720 This will put the country in a much better position over the medium term.

00:24:12.720 So it's, I'm, I'm answering it to some extent in the positive.

00:24:15.720 And that's what we need to focus on.

00:24:17.720 Partly in the negative, of course, we're going to work hard on the US negotiation, but

00:24:23.720 we can't let it crowd everything else out.

00:24:25.720 You quite rightly have, you don't need me to grade you, but kept a more limited part

00:24:31.720 of this discussion around the US.

00:24:33.720 And yes, it's important, but it's not everything, but it can very quickly become everything.

00:24:38.720 Just like some people, some people in the House of Commons think a pipeline is everything.

00:24:44.720 It's remarkable how many questions are about a pipeline.

00:24:46.720 When you think about what can be invested in hydroelectricity, what's invested, we have

00:24:53.720 the potential in this country to become one of the leaders in nuclear power, particularly

00:24:58.720 small modular reactors.

00:24:59.720 We started down that road.

00:25:01.720 Huge payoff, huge payoff for the environment, huge payoff for jobs happen to be in Ontario,

00:25:06.720 right here in Ontario and across the country.

00:25:08.720 We have huge opportunities in defense, in AI, in cyber.

00:25:11.720 These are areas as well, we have to be able to do more than one thing.

00:25:16.720 This government is capable of doing that.

00:25:18.720 Okay, I'm out of time, but I want to ask you, do you like this job?

00:25:21.720 Do I like this job?

00:25:23.720 Yes.

00:25:24.720 How's that?

00:25:25.720 How's that?

00:25:26.720 Let's end on a high.

00:25:27.720 It's an important time and it's a privilege to have it.

00:25:32.720 It's a huge responsibility.

00:25:34.720 But as long as I have it, I'm going to be working flat out on it.

00:25:38.720 Man, I never thought I'd say this, but I'm going to say it.

00:25:41.720 Good job, Rosemary Barton.

00:25:43.720 I don't know what's happening here.

00:25:44.720 I haven't checked, but maybe it's a full moon.

00:25:47.720 Maybe Rosemary Barton was visited by a few ghosts when she was sleeping.

00:25:51.720 Maybe she's being strategic and notices that she's eventually going to be out of a job once Polyev gets into power.

00:25:58.720 So she's trying to salvage her reputation. 1.00

00:26:00.720 I don't know.

00:26:01.720 All I know is that she did a really great job of holding Mark Carney to account.

00:26:05.720 This is the kind of stuff the media needs to do.

00:26:08.720 So often they save all their softball interview questions for the liberals and then they give hard questions to the conservatives.

00:26:15.720 And there's nothing wrong with asking hard questions, but do it for both sides, not just one side.

00:26:21.720 And on top of that, they often lie about conservatives.

00:26:25.720 They say things that are not true.

00:26:28.720 And then when it comes to liberals, they take everything they say that's bad, not good, corrupt, and they paint it with a white brush.

00:26:36.720 They're essentially whitewashing it.

00:26:38.720 And there's a word for that, and that's called propaganda.

00:26:41.720 And in some cases, it's outright fake news.

00:26:44.720 You know what they say about fake news and the people, right?

00:26:47.720 I mean, Donald Trump had something to say about that.

00:26:49.720 Also, there's something you may have missed.

00:26:51.720 If you watch the whole interview, you still might have missed this.

00:26:54.720 Look at Mark Carney's face right here.

00:26:56.720 This happens around the end of the interview.

00:26:58.720 Now he keeps up this smiley sort of image.

00:27:01.720 However, in that one second, you can see how he really feels.

00:27:05.720 He's worried.

00:27:07.720 He's scared.

00:27:08.720 He knows that he was just embarrassed on national television.

00:27:11.720 And this is the beginning of the end for him.

00:27:14.720 Now, for all the people in my comments section, I'm not saying he's going to be out tomorrow.

00:27:18.720 I'm not saying he's going to be out next week.

00:27:21.720 I am saying that he's going to be out sooner rather than later.

00:27:24.720 And by sooner, it could be as early as spring or the summer.

00:27:28.720 Now, people are saying, oh, that's never going to happen.

00:27:30.720 That's never going to happen.

00:27:31.720 I'm telling you, it very well could happen.

00:27:34.720 The only thing that's going to save Carney is if he somehow bribes another conservative MP and gets that person to cross over.

00:27:40.720 And that's entirely possible.

00:27:42.720 That's scary.

00:27:43.720 And that's what we're facing.

00:27:45.720 I hope it doesn't happen.

00:27:46.720 It could happen.

00:27:47.720 But what I am saying is that if it does happen, let it happen.

00:27:51.720 If there's a conservative MP that could be bought with money and pieces of silver and whatever the liberals want to give them, let it happen.

00:28:00.720 Because when Polyev gets into power, which is going to happen eventually, he needs people he can trust.

00:28:05.720 And if he has MPs that are on his team that are the kind of people that can be bought off, he's better off without them.

00:28:12.720 Because like I said, Polyev is going to get into power sooner rather than later.

00:28:16.720 You don't believe me?

00:28:18.720 Well, watch the recent CTV video I put out where the panelists, including Vashti Capello's, were even at least suggesting that Polyev will win the next election.

00:28:28.720 And I encourage you to watch it.

00:28:30.720 I know my fans have watched it, but the people that are going to be in the comments saying that, oh, I'm just making stuff up.

00:28:35.720 Watch the video.

00:28:36.720 Watch the video.

00:28:38.720 Look at it. 1.00

00:28:39.720 By any measure, Carney is a failure and he's a liar and he's a con man. 1.00

00:28:44.720 Let's read off a few things. 0.99

00:28:46.720 I mean, first of all, he said he was going to get a deal with Donald Trump.

00:28:49.720 Where's the deal?

00:28:50.720 Last time I checked, there's no deal.

00:28:52.720 He said that he was his economic mastermind.

00:28:55.720 And look at the budget.

00:28:56.720 Have you read the budget?

00:28:57.720 There's a sky high deficit.

00:28:59.720 It's twice as big as what Justin Trudeau had.

00:29:01.720 Justin Trudeau knew nothing about the economy.

00:29:03.720 He didn't even pretend to know anything about the economy.

00:29:06.720 And now Carney is pretending like he knows something.

00:29:08.720 And yet the budget is twice as big.

00:29:10.720 Think about that for a second.

00:29:12.720 And on top of that, he's alienating his base because he's going through the pipeline.

00:29:16.720 But at the same time, he's not really going through it.

00:29:18.720 And everybody is just slowly, slowly getting angrier and angrier with this guy.

00:29:24.720 And trust me, he's not going to be around very long.

00:29:26.720 But anyway, I still have faith there's going to be a blue summer.

00:29:29.720 So hang in there.

00:29:30.720 Have a bit of patience.

00:29:31.720 Have a bit of faith.

00:29:33.720 In case I don't see you, have a Merry Christmas.

00:29:35.720 I'll talk to you real soon.

CBC Turns On Carney In SHOCKING Twist

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