Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.000 conservative mp andrew sheer completely murdered a ctv journalist on live television today

00:00:05.920 let's watch that clip and stick around to the end for some commentary conservative house leader

00:00:10.400 andrew sheer is here with me now mr sure it's good to have you in studio i appreciate you making the

00:00:14.240 time i know that you expressed support for keystone i want to get to that in a second

00:00:17.840 not not exactly as the government lays it out but i actually wanted to start where i left off with

00:00:21.440 premier eby because the other hot topic in this country right now is a pipeline that doesn't just

00:00:25.120 go north south but out west from from alberta he is vehemently opposed i know that you know we can

00:00:31.120 all debate the reasons behind that but it's a fact right now that he really doesn't want that pipeline

00:00:36.640 to be built would a conservative government kind of try to build it anyway well that's what happened

00:00:43.440 with tmx uh the british columbia government the ndp government didn't support tmx but we have a

00:00:49.440 constitution in canada that empowers the federal government to make these kinds of decisions to

00:00:53.760 the benefit of all canadians uh the conservative party has been uh proudly championing a pipeline

00:00:59.680 that would open up asian markets uh right now canada sells at a discount to the united states

00:01:05.200 the the us economy is basically subsidized by the canadian energy sector and we believe a great way

00:01:10.560 to change that is to get a pipeline to the western shores that open up markets like india and korea and

00:01:16.400 japan the point that premier eb was making that was an interesting one around the tanker ban which

00:01:21.440 effectively kills any any kind of pipeline to the northwest coast but that the the the variety of

00:01:26.880 deals he's been able to make with the private sector and indigenous groups to generate more lng

00:01:31.440 development has been predicated on the existence of that tanker ban so would a conservative government

00:01:38.000 run rough shot roughshod over that for example like are you willing to sacrifice lng for oil i believe

00:01:43.520 it was christy clark former british columbia premier might have been even on this show that pointed out

00:01:48.480 away that day but yeah okay well she pointed out it's really just a ban on canadian shipping that

00:01:53.040 the the law the liberals put in place really just prevents canadian energy uh from getting to other

00:01:57.840 markets american uh shipping goes uh goes up and down the coast i think i believe she said every day

00:02:03.120 so uh you know the same proximity well you know it's it's still it's still in the area that the

00:02:07.680 that the current liberal law bans so i mean look uh we believe that it's essential to get off the

00:02:14.880 dependency on on the us market right now we are beholden to us to to a huge degree especially when

00:02:21.120 it comes to energy so we absolutely believe that you can build a pipeline at the highest environmental

00:02:26.240 standards with the with all the structural integrity and making sure you know you don't

00:02:30.320 affect aquifers and things like that with proper indigenous consultation as there was with northern

00:02:35.120 gateway where dozens of first nations communities signed on to partnership agreements with the proposal

00:02:41.040 we also point out that it used to be in canada that you didn't need tax dollars to build a pipeline

00:02:46.000 that used to be done by investors but all that investment money is leaving tc energy used to be

00:02:50.960 called trans canada they've dropped the canada part of their name because they can't get anything built

00:02:55.040 in this country just announced 8.5 billion dollars worth of energy projects in the us we believe those

00:03:00.720 dollars should be being invested in canada and we're completely puzzled not just puzzled we're gobsmacked

00:03:06.400 that mark carney's promise to donald trump that he would send a trillion dollars of investment from

00:03:11.360 canada to the united states as part of some deal that they're working on so we don't believe canada

00:03:15.280 needs to invest more dollars in the us we believe canada needs to invest the canadian investors should

00:03:19.600 be investing in canada putting canadians to work building canadian factories canadian sawmills things

00:03:24.400 like that but even even for example when you use the example of northern gateway like even though a

00:03:29.920 tanker band didn't exist ultimately indigenous consultation was done it was deemed to be

00:03:36.000 not uh stringent enough not adequate enough by a court and even the way in which cabinet made

00:03:42.720 the decision was also part of what the court ultimately decided was not enough so let's say

00:03:48.320 you know the conservatives are in power the tanker ban is removed is it really fair to say that these

00:03:53.280 pipelines are all of a sudden going to get built they simply didn't under prime minister there are four

00:03:57.440 major pipeline projects including uh including to tidewater and what happened with the consultation

00:04:02.720 piece was there's a very specific ruling by the judge about a very specific way the consultations

00:04:07.600 were laid out with a bit of a road map of how to do that and rather than go back and do it properly

00:04:13.040 justin trudeau effectively vetoed that pipeline and remember mark carney was asked specifically when he

00:04:18.000 was at committee did he agree with justin trudeau's decision to kill the northern gateway project and mark

00:04:22.960 carney said yes mark carney wrote a book called values where he complained that the carbon tax

00:04:27.440 wasn't high enough where he uh he he agreed he advised justin trudeau when justin trudeau is phasing

00:04:34.240 out the energy sector so clearly mark carney is not going to get those big projects done he hasn't

00:04:38.720 included any a talk of a pipeline in his so-called major major projects list that hasn't actually even

00:04:44.720 come into existence still going from one bureaucracy to another uh so what we're saying today is look

00:04:50.320 let's let's get rid of the shipping ban let's let canadian uh uh energy workers sell their products to 1.00

00:04:55.520 asian markets let's get let's get a better return on what we are selling so we're not just selling

00:05:00.080 into the us market let's let provinces like bc and alberta and saskatchewan collect more revenues let's

00:05:06.080 let the federal government collect more revenue so we can improve services for canadians all canadians

00:05:10.640 benefit when canada exports more of its energy i i never understand why radical politicians like

00:05:15.680 david eby are opposed to it or mark carney for that matter well look i understand i understand the

00:05:19.920 economic pitch but i also understand there's nuances among the opposition for example along the coast of

00:05:24.880 british columbia where they are very worried about the potential impact of exporting more oil

00:05:29.600 from the coast there are also first nations who are supportive of a pipeline endeavor like that

00:05:34.080 but to say that it's you know that that getting rid of the tanker ban getting rid of the emissions cap

00:05:39.360 is all of a sudden going to create a world in which the way you convey it is like it's so simple we

00:05:43.360 could just build all this stuff the fact is you built some stuff under prime minister harper the

00:05:47.760 major one was the line line reversal but i lived through that i covered it living in alberta there was

00:05:52.640 a ton of opposition even keystone approved under harper why couldn't it get built because of

00:05:57.040 opposition in this at the state level farmers in nebraska for example who succeeded in court so

00:06:02.960 the idea that it looks like these these things that trudeau did that made it untenable to develop

00:06:09.040 the economy from a resource perspective like it's not substantiated by the facts but it actually is

00:06:14.160 so bashi we had over 150 you know since since the energy sector developed we've had private sector

00:06:21.440 proponents build pipelines in this country i mean i i live in regina i can see where an enbridge

00:06:25.760 pipeline cuts across the north end of my city uh that was all done by investors canadian investors

00:06:30.880 international investors pouring money into canada putting canadians to work the shipping ban was

00:06:35.680 a piece of legislation that justin trudeau imposed upon canadians he he didn't have to do that

00:06:40.560 that was a marked change the production cap again a government policy what conservatives are saying

00:06:45.760 continue to rise so significantly actually at a faster pace than the previous prime minister because

00:06:50.480 of the timelines and when he he kicked in but what he has basically said is that uh what justin

00:06:54.720 trudeau kind of set is that the canadian energy sector cannot grow and mark carney voted against

00:06:59.600 repealing that production cap so mark carney said he's happy with that production cap what conservatives

00:07:05.120 are saying is that the the roadblocks to pipelines are actually imposed by government the

00:07:09.760 shipping ban is a government decision the production cap is a government decision the

00:07:13.040 industrial carbon tax a government decision these are all things that these are all things

00:07:17.840 not a government decision no no but but but let's let's talk about all those first nations community

00:07:22.160 who wanted that project that's where they get the economic benefit from that's where their quality

00:07:27.440 of life gets to improve and i absolutely believe that everybody wins when our energy sector is able to

00:07:33.760 thrive first nations community oil and gas workers provincial governments collecting revenues to improve

00:07:38.640 about public services like where's canada going to get the gdp growth if if if the us is effectively

00:07:44.160 saying that mark carney is not going to get a deal on things like auto uh if the us is not dropping

00:07:48.880 softwood lumber uh tariffs if and then the and then this liberal government comes along and says oh yeah

00:07:53.600 we're also going to keep kneecapping our energy sector like justin trudeau is doing where are we

00:07:58.240 going to make up for these u.s tariffs where is this growth going to come from how are we going to get

00:08:01.600 young canadians back to work have you seen the job numbers for young canadians in this country

00:08:05.360 the energy sector is a great avenue for young people to get good paying jobs that allow them

00:08:09.920 to start their lives isn't on the decline the energy sector under the previous prime minister

00:08:13.920 grew on a monthly basis at twice the rate of prime minister harper like i understand that the prospect

00:08:19.280 of it getting way better is out there i will take you all over saskatchewan it's not contract sorry i

00:08:24.800 gotta challenge you this i will take you all over saskatchewan and alberta and i will introduce you to

00:08:28.320 people who lost their jobs i'll show you people whose companies have gone bankrupt and they had to watch

00:08:33.360 american companies buy canadian equipment at auction for pennies on the dollar okay so you

00:08:40.080 know you could find some stats that say that because of price changes you know it might be better this

00:08:44.080 month than last month but there has been a real a real blow to the canadian energy sector and a lot

00:08:49.840 of young people that would come out of high school come out of the trades and say okay i'm going to go

00:08:53.040 work in the energy sector i'm going to go help drill i'm going to get into you know engineering and things

00:08:58.880 like that those jobs have have in many areas completely dried up so these pipelines are not

00:09:04.000 just an avenue to to fill provincial coffers for health care and education they're also a place

00:09:09.200 where young people can get work again and what we're questioning the government is why not what

00:09:13.360 what is this allergy to developing our energy sector and why do canadians have to pay the price why do

00:09:18.800 those hard-working young canadians have to pay the price for mark carney's radical ideology you have

00:09:23.200 evidence though that this government thus far and i take your point about his book and the positions he's

00:09:26.800 espoused in the past that thus far they are as anti-energy as you're painting them the top project

00:09:31.120 on their major projects initial major projects list was lng canada phase two and again i'm not

00:09:36.800 making up those statistics i take your point about that's from mcdonald laurier institute and and they

00:09:43.280 that's that's not exactly like a left-wing think tank they did the analysis and we know oil companies

00:09:48.400 are making money hand over fist they're making money by investing in america these tc energy 8.5

00:09:53.600 billion dollars they moved off oil and onto gas they are building a pipeline in virginia they are

00:09:59.120 that is 8.5 billion dollars of canadian investment money that's going to work in the us those are

00:10:04.080 americans that are going to get those jobs american steel workers american construction workers that are

00:10:09.040 going to do all that all that money used to be put to work in canada and this government's not doing

00:10:13.440 that and as for evidence it was just last week they voted against our motion to lift the production cap

00:10:18.560 that's pretty substantial evidence in this in the last few weeks in parliament just across the street

00:10:24.320 they voted to keep justin trudeau's anti-energy policies quickly though you are also saying that

00:10:28.000 you'll support keystone if in fact that thing that's happening you know in these negotiations

00:10:32.160 that we don't really have any clarity on it like the the conservatives would essentially support that

00:10:35.200 well we we we approved it back in 2010 under stephen harper uh donald trump approved it in 2017 it was

00:10:41.200 one of his first set first acts this should be low-hanging fruit by the way like this shouldn't be hard

00:10:46.000 and uh if donald trump wants to buy our energy he he gets a good deal for the american economy we

00:10:51.520 shouldn't have to offer up anything in negotiations to get donald trump what he wants anyway he's

00:10:56.080 signaling to us that he wants it he signed it off on it back in 2017 this should be done in a in a

00:11:01.520 couple hours if if both parties are serious about it okay i'll leave it on that mr sure appreciate

00:11:05.440 your time as always thank you so much i will admit that was sort of painful to watch and sort of cringy

00:11:10.880 however i want to point out that cdve usually does save its hardball interviews for

00:11:15.520 conservatives and then lets the liberals skate andrew sure did a fantastic job of standing his

00:11:21.600 ground and advocating for pipelines he's good not as good as polyev but he's still good it seems the

00:11:28.000 establishment has a problem whenever conservatives try to build projects push forward projects that

00:11:33.040 would actually benefit canadians it's funny how that works it's almost like they want to keep us all

00:11:38.320 poor forever but once again i'm glad to see sheer put that woman in her place to be fair vashi does do some 1.00

00:11:44.320 good work but there's other times like this where she's just completely annoying and completely off 1.00

00:11:49.840 base in other news carney came back to canada empty-handed and i was expected and not to toot

00:11:56.880 my own horn but i did call it now if i remember correctly carney said he was the chosen one he was

00:12:02.560 god's gift to canada to sort out the mess with donald trump and look what happened none of that came to

00:12:08.720 fruition we have no deal despite carney being in office for over seven months now we have no deal

00:12:16.720 mark carney is a man that lied to canadians he lied to his voters he hasn't said an honest word in his

00:12:22.720 entire life what would you expect from someone who cheated on his phd now cheating on your phd should

00:12:29.200 be disqualifying however with the liberals it's part of the job requirement now of course if we had

00:12:34.720 poly evan office we'd have a trade deal not only with the united states but also with china we'd be

00:12:40.080 building pipelines from east west north south everybody would be getting a taste a share of

00:12:46.560 canadian oils the east asians have been begging for oil for decades they'd be getting some western 0.97

00:12:53.840 europe has been begging for oil for decades they'd be getting some the south americans they could probably 0.85

00:12:59.920 use some clean oil we got it but we can't sell it because the liberals are holding us back think

00:13:05.840 about that for a second however despite all this madness as of late i'm still hopeful we're going to

00:13:10.400 get poly evan office it's only a matter of time either carney's going to resign or he's going to face a

00:13:16.320 no confidence vote like i've said before just be patient have a little bit of faith conservatives are

00:13:22.640 going to win and we're going to win big thanks for tuning in talk to you tomorrow and if you enjoyed

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