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In this episode, Conservative House Leader and Conservative Leader andrew sheer joins me to discuss the Liberal government's announcement on bail reform, and why it's not bail reform at all. We also discuss why the Conservative approach to bail reform is much better than the liberal approach, and what it means for the future of Canada's bail system.
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have a view that a crime was committed the accusation for mr polyev who in a matter
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of weeks or months could run an election and be prime minister whoa ctv just made a huge mistake
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fascia kalapos admitted during an interview with andrew sheer that pure polyev could be prime
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minister within a matter of weeks fascia brought sheer onto the program in an effort to embarrass
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him instead she embarrassed herself and reminded the world that ctv is a pro-liberal propaganda
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machine joining us now is conservative house leader andrew sheer hi mr sheer good to have you
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back on the program thanks for making the time good afternoon how you doing good thank you i hope
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you're doing well as well i wanted to start off on the question of not necessarily if you're going to
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support it because you haven't seen it but just base you know i read the statement that your party
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put out which was immediately criticizing the legislation and i'm wondering why you know if
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you haven't read the details you aren't waiting until you do before you say this is bad well
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based on what the government has announced what they've basically acknowledged is that they are
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not going to tackle bail reform this is not bail reform um first of all what i would have loved to
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have seen from a liberal prime minister making an announcement undoing uh claiming to undo previous
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liberal laws that caused the crime wave is an apology you know mark carney stood up there and he's
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trying to act like he's responding to some new thing that came out of left field liberal changes to our
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bail regime caused the crime wave that is plaguing so many community community communities and i would
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have liked to have seen a liberal prime minister make a direct apology to all the victims of crime
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that have had their lives shattered because of criminals that this government set free uh they
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didn't do that in typical arrogant liberal fashion they just tried to act like they should get a hero
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cookie uh for trying to clean up their own mess nothing in this announcement today changes the
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principle of least restraint that the liberal government brought in that forces judges to grant
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bail as uh as a as an almost automatic option exactly and i'm glad that andrew sure brought this up
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the liberal government they're lying to canadians they're telling people they're getting tough on
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crime when in reality they're just getting tough on taxpayers and law-abinding gun owners i spent about
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you know more than half of the last interview asking the government representative why they aren't
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repealing that and and i and i do take your point on the initial legislation in c75 my understanding
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though is you know by by focusing on major crimes for example and what the previous bill in 2023 did
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it allows for that principle to remain part of the guidance for non-violent crimes for non-repeat
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offenders which might actually go toward helping reduce some of the backlogs in the courts why not
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remain open to that possibility well i i think you've asked a great question it gives me an opportunity
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to uh to to contrast the liberal approach and the conservative approach as it relates this this key
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point reverse onus does not make bail harder to get uh if you think of bail uh uh an accused getting
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bail as a hurdle that that has to be jumped over reverse onus just changes the direction in which
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the accused has to run to jump over it the liberals have set that so incredibly low that it kind of
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doesn't matter which direction the criminal is trying to jump over it from uh this reverse onus
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list does not take away that principle of least restraint it just shifts who has to make the arguments
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about whether or not bail should be granted and judges will still have to look at the changes liberals
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brought in and say i i am bound by this legislation to follow the principle of least restraint and it won't
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really matter if it's the crown arguing or if it's the accused arguing they're still going to have
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that very low barrier to bail and what we've seen since the liberals changed these laws there has been
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an explosion we're not talking about a a slight tick up or we're not talking about you know in specific
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areas violent crime is up across the board across the country it's up over uh 60 percent uh crimes with
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firearms is up uh you know almost doubled so we're talking about places that used to be safe people
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that used to be able to park their car at night and and go to evening events go to restaurants don't
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feel safe anymore and so many lives have been shattered by criminals that this government has
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let out so that's the key difference between the liberal approach and the concerted approach we want
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to take away that principle of least restraint so that dangerous or repeat offenders actually go to jail
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oh dear look at vashi's face right there she's got that disdainful look that dirty look in her eyes
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now if a liberal was on the program she'd be smiling she'd be happy she'd be cordial but instead
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you have a conservative and she gives him that dirty disdainful look just wanted to point that out
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now while we're here my videos aren't getting as much traction as they normally do if you see
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this part don't forget to like and subscribe and let me know in the comment section whether you saw
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this i'm doing a quick test all right let's get back to the action i i do understand that but i i'm
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looking at for example all the submissions put forward by the various police associations which
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asked for exactly what the government says it's going to do which is apply that principle of reverse
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onus i look at the reaction today from the toronto police association which represents police officers
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in that city they say this is a step in the right direction the canadian police association this
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should be a moment for collaboration not division we urge all parties to engage constructively and
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pass this legislation as quickly as possible to enhance public safety and restore canadians
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diminish confidence in the justice system what do you know that police don't
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fashi thinks she's smart but sheer he's a lot smarter he's about to smack this bimbo all the way back to
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montreal well i i i know that police have been calling for the elimination of that principle of least
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restraint and while they may have been calling for other things uh we we continue to point out the
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fact that basically what the liberals approaches is this liberals look at dangerous and repeat
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offenders and they have compassion for that accused person they have they have compassion for that
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criminal and they say all the you know these poor people that fall into a life of crime and it's
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not really their fault and let's let's not make them go to jail conservatives our compassion are for
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victims of crime our compassion is for the moms and dads that no longer let their kids go to the park
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uh business owners for getting extorted i mean actually when when you're growing up did you ever
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hear about canadian business owners getting extorted uh that's something you saw in in movies and and
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mobster films you know uh this is now happening in many communities across the country it all it you
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can draw a direct line to liberal legislation that both lowered penalties for dangerous repeat offenders
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but also forced judges to grant bail and what we're saying is let's adopt if you want to have
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collaboration if liberals are willing to admit that they've made mistakes great go the whole way work
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with us to pass conservative bill uh jail not bail that will take away that principle of least
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restraint and keep those dangerous and repeat offenders behind bars so that they can't terrorize
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canadians that was the perfect answer by sheer of course the police are happy the liberal government
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has let things go so bad that even a small improvement is worth celebrating that's what's happening
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fashion is trying to make it sound like the liberals just ended crime completely in canada
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but in reality they barely even did anything but again today mr sheer i don't hear police
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associations saying what you are which is this doesn't go nearly far enough we need to repeal that
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principle and even if they were to repeal that principle there are still you know three pieces of
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case law including in 2019 the supreme court case r versus antic that was kind of the impetus for
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the legislation in the first part that guides judges decisions anyway so even if you repealed what what
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you say the government should you would still have a judiciary that is guided by that principle to some
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effect applying reverse onus to major crimes will impact the way in which they're able to apply the
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principle and keep it to non-violent crimes will it not no really all reverse onus means is which which
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party in the in the court case has to make the arguments that that barrier to getting bail is
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still incredibly low with that principle of least restraint and as to the court decisions that the
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liberals used as an excuse i i know that's what the liberals want people to believe was that there
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was some court ruling that forced them to write this law it's just not the case those court rulings were
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uh were were kind of uh speaking to um uh financial uh surity around uh bail once bail was granted what
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conditions were attached to that uh the liberals chose to take those court rulings and build a hole
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that you could drive a mac truck through for for forcing judges to grant bail so they nowhere in
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that court decision did it force the government to bring in bill c5 and bill c75 uh they codified
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the principle of least restraint that is what led to the explosion in uh in crime across the country and
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we believe and we believe canadians support us in this that bringing in our jail not bail law meets
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the charter test of a reasonable uh response to a pressing and substantial issue facing canadians and
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i don't believe there's a canadian out there who has had their car stolen or had their business broken
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into or seen someone you know uh yelling threats on a on a bus or a subway that doesn't believe that crime
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right now after 10 years of liberal uh policies is not a pressing and substantial issue exactly and
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the fact that sure has to spell it out like this for her either means that vashi is dumber than she
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looks or else she's got her check from the liberal party in the mail i mean to say that they were forced
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to codify it it was their decision to codify it but the cases do exist in in case i just have to
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they do not relate to the principle of least restraint i mean it's about ladder the latter principle the the
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judgment in our versus antic did criticize lower courts for routinely overusing bail conditions but
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but i do i have to move on to this one thing if you don't mind before i let you go seriously who
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does this woman think she is look fashy you're not a lawyer you have no idea what you're talking about
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and you're being very disrespectful you let a sitting mp a sitting politician the former leader
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of the conservative party onto your show and you're acting really disrespectful that shameful behavior
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from any journalist i don't like that uh because the leader of your party made some comments in a
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podcast that i want to get your take on because it's actually about policing uh the podcast i believe
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was taped october 3rd posted yesterday he was referencing the rcmp's decision not to pursue
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criminal charges against justin trudeau or other people in the government over their involvement in
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the snc scandal mr poly have characterized the leadership of the rcmp as quote despicable when it
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comes to enforcing laws against the liberal government and accuse them of covering up for trudeau do you
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have proof of that the mask is off right now bashi just proved that she's not a real journalist
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and that she's a political hack that's getting paid off by the liberal party of course the rcmp
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is corrupt even a dumb person that doesn't follow politics would know that um did you hear the uh
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taped audio between the pro the liberal prime minister's uh clerk of the privy council and former
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justice minister jody wilson raybold because i heard that i heard that audio recording and i heard
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explicit and implicit threats to a justice minister uh to to to grant if she did not grant
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a special deal to snc lavaland i believe that's a matter of public record and uh so i i certainly
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uh i don't agree with the idea that there was not an attempt to interfere in uh in the justice
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minister's role as an independent uh uh officer of the court but that's not what i asked mr sheer
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you have a view that a crime was committed the accusation for mr polyeth who in a matter of
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weeks or months could run in an election and be prime minister do you hear that right there
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vashley just went off script and admitted that polyev could be in power within a matter of weeks
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or months that's why they're so scared and that's why they're back to attacking conservatives
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is that the rcmp leadership covered up for the prime minister that's a very direct accusation
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about the leadership of our national police force do you have evidence of it
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well as i as i just pointed out there's there's there's direct evidence of uh of an attempt by
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the prime minister a sitting liberal prime minister to interfere with the attorney general's uh carrying
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out of her duties that is that was that audio was released i i listened to it on on uh i i believe
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you probably have too uh and uh thousand times when the rcmp says oh there's no evidence of interference
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it's like well sorry what more do you need um you know there's other cases where you know the the
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justin trudeau's illegal acceptance of a of a private holiday that the rcmp chose not to uh
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investigate so you know uh there's a lot of there's a lot of examples where senior liberals have been
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caught uh breaking the law or attempting or at least what a reasonable person would say there's evidence
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that that that should be explored and uh and the rcmp chose not to no but the rcmp did choose to
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explore that evidence and they they have public statements wait a second public statements on
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record saying that they were not able to obtain certain cabinet confidences so why is that a cover
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up isn't that the fault of cabinet at the time or the government at the time shouldn't your ire be
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directed at the political level and not at calling the leadership of the rcmp despicable and covering
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up for a prime minister well uh i i i absolutely believe that the liberals uh acted despicably uh in
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in in this and i would just the rcmp commissioners who mr polyev accused oh my just let the man talk
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let him talk and stop interrupting him fashi you're being really rude and i don't like it i don't think
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you can make the accusation that i or or my leader peer polyev uh we're not holding the liberals
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accountable for their role in this as well i mean we absolutely uh attempted to prosecute both uh the
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snc lavalin scandal the green slush fund uh scandal we tried to get those documents uh to the rcmp we
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tried to get uh the uh the rcmp to take action and and and elevate this uh to a level where these crimes
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would actually be prosecuted uh that's not what happened so i i i think my leader has uh has a
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strong case uh to make when he's when he calls this out and uh and and we certainly believe that
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the leadership of the rcmp should act independently and should not be afraid to hold uh politicians
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accountable he said today the the commissioner of the rcmp that he doesn't answer to any politician
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that he isn't beholden to anyone do you not believe him well yeah i just do you point out that when
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when when when you have uh liberal politicians attempting to interfere in an independent court
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case accepting illegal gifts uh funneling money through liberal board members in the in the green
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slush fund where the liberals put their their their friends and political donors onto a board to
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allocate taxpayers money and they ran they allocated that taxpayers money they gave it to themselves they
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gave it to their own companies and still uh you know we haven't seen criminal prosecutions on that we
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haven't seen we saw the rcmp completely abandoned uh the snc laval affair when there was an audio of
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the prime minister's uh right hand man you know michael wernick trying to uh pressure jody wilson
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raybold into making a decision she did not believe was just and uh so i i i i think i've laid out of
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a very compelling case uh that would uh certainly run counter to the quote you might have from the from the rcmp
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okay i gotta leave it on that note i'm out of time i appreciate your time as always mr sheer thank you
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so much thanks so much now in my opinion that was an excellent performance by sheer as always and a
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terrible shameful pitiful performance by vashi i feel sorry for any man that ever wasted his time
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taking that woman that ungrateful nasty dreadful woman on a date she clearly doesn't deserve it and
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she clearly isn't worthy of any person's time now in case you missed it if it's not abundantly clear
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ctv is deep in the liberals pocket and they're worried that polyev is going to get into power
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so they're trying to brainwash canadians into not voting for him they're back to their dirty tricks
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again now ctv wanted to do real journalism for a change they could find out why mark carney was
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rubbing shoulders with prince andrew and galaine maxwell they could also look into why trudeau left his
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teaching job mid-semester that would be a great place to start once again i have to commend sure
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for remaining calm the whole time and pushing back against that dreadful woman with cold hard
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facts and to quote vashi to use her words polyev could be in power within weeks or months it's
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happening next month november we have the no confidence vote the bloc the ndp and the conservatives
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they're all saying no to carney's disastrous budget so it's entirely possible we could have a new
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election by the end of the year if that doesn't happen carney will either resign or be forced out
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sometime next year once again like i always ask you have some patience have some faith we're going
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to win big and we're going to do it soon have a great night talk to you tomorrow patriots