Guilbeault EXPOSES Carney’s Incompetence
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Summary
In a shocking twist of events, Carney s former cabinet minister, Stephen Guilbeault, admitted during an interview with CTV that the Liberal government is a complete mess. But he has decided to stay in the Liberal caucus.
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In a shocking twist of events, Carney's former cabinet minister, Stephen Guilbeault,
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admitted during an interview with CTV that the liberal government is a complete mess.
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Let's watch what he said and then stick around to the end for some commentary.
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That's Stephen Guilbeault ahead of his first liberal caucus meeting since quitting cabinet
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over last week's federal energy agreement with Alberta, a deal that would see the feds waive
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clean energy regulations in exchange for the province negotiating an increased industrial
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carbon price, all in pursuit of a new bitumen pipeline to the Pacific.
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Something Mr. Guilbeault said he couldn't back, calling the agreement a, quote, serious
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But he has decided to stay in the liberal caucus and Mr. Guilbeault is with us live in studio
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I mean, as a cabinet minister, you have a responsibility to tell your prime minister
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what you feel is the right thing or the wrong thing to do.
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And if you disagree with a policy or a decision by the government in our parliamentary system,
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then as a cabinet minister, your only recourse is to leave.
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So I had read a story, and maybe it was wrong, but it seemed, you know, well-placed the night
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before you quit, essentially saying a source close to you was saying that you were going
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to remain in cabinet because you felt you could have more influence, essentially, over
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the direction of climate policy or what was to come than outside of cabinet.
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I mean, when I, from the first moment, I saw a draft of the agreement, the memorandum of
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understanding between the federal government and Alberta, I voiced my strong opposition.
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And I told people, I told those people who were with me that I understood that me opposing
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this would have some consequences, i.e. me leaving cabinet.
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And from that day on, Tuesday, Wednesday, tried to work, like, are there changes that could
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And the changes that were made were largely cosmetic and didn't change the nature of the
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Like, I felt, and I feel, we left a lot on the table for not getting a lot in return.
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This idea that we have to abandon our clean electricity regulation that will help us clean
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up our electricity grid across the country for decades to come in exchange for Alberta putting
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They already have to do that because of the federal pricing system.
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Alberta is not giving us, giving Canadians a better deal out of that.
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I have supported the Pathways project to capture carbon and store it in the ground for many years.
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But people have to understand that it's not a magic bullet.
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It will help reduce pollution from the oil sands sector by about 12%.
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But it will still make oil sands, oil, one of the most carbon intensive in the world.
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Like, right now, it's about 10 times more pollution intensive than oil that's produced in Newfoundland,
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So it's going to be slightly better, but it will be nowhere near what's produced, even in other parts of Canada,
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let alone the North Sea or elsewhere in the world.
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The grand bargain and all that you just said, you know, we put to your colleagues,
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including the person who succeeded you in this position in the days in the wake of your exit,
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on multiple occasions, in great detail, like how the thesis that they seem to be putting forward is
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the increase, whatever we're able to negotiate in the form of an increase to the industrial price on carbon
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will mitigate the impact of the rollback of these other policies.
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But to mitigate the losses of measures we're willing to leave on the table in order to get this agreement with Alberta,
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the price on pollution would have to be almost three times as high as what is currently being proposed.
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So there's an Environment Canada estimates that to get to the same result in terms of reduction of pollution,
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just using industrial carbon pricing and taking clean electricity regulation out of the equation,
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you'd have to have a price on pollution of about $400 a ton.
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And frankly, I think that my government needs to be honest with Canadians,
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with the rollbacks that we've seen over the past few months on different climate change measures
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that have been adopted over the years by me and some of my predecessors.
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It is impossible to see how we achieve our 2030 targets.
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When I was minister, you and I have had this conversation.
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And the prime minister, he's the prime minister.
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If he wants another strategy, he wants another approach, he can do that.
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But we also have to tell Canadians what's the new plan and what does that plan lead us to.
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What Gilboa is essentially admitting right here is that Carney alienated the eco-radicals on the left
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There's a large percentage of left-wingers that hate pipelines
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because they believe they're quote-unquote bad for the environment.
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Gilboa admits that Canada won't meet its 2030 climate change targets.
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It makes you wonder whether it was worth going for these targets in the first place.
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The general government wasted so much money because they chose to virtue signal
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instead of trying to make Canada the economic powerhouse that it could have been.
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Right now, even achieving net zero, so carbon neutrality by 2050,
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it is very hard for me to see how we get there with what has been announced so far.
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So you think even that target is in jeopardy now?
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Did you convey this at any point to the prime minister?
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Like was there, not to say that you would disclose all the details,
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but like has there been a frank conversation about this
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between you and the prime minister specifically?
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Last week I've had a couple of conversations with the prime minister
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and they were very honest and frank and respectful
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where I told them many of the things that I'm telling you now
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and where eventually I told them that I was no longer the person
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to be able to help him continue, support his agenda on this issue.
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because I think a lot of Canadians watching would ask that question.
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If you don't feel like you can defend, you know, on principle, essentially,
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you have to resign from cabinet because of the agenda that they're pursuing,
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Well, I have a profound disagreement with the prime minister
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on how he and his team want to continue moving forward on climate change.
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And maybe they can prove me wrong in the coming months.
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That being said, I still think that the best person to serve Canadians
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and to help us, to guide us through those difficult times we're going through
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Without Prime Minister Kearney, we would not have had the historic investment
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in the arts and culture that was in the last budget.
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We certainly wouldn't have measures that continue to support Canadians
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The Conservative Party of Canada have said time and time again
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like thousands of dollars back in the pockets of Canadians.
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And why do something so politically damaging to the prime minister
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Why not stay around the table and fight for the things
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I mean, I've tried to do that with as much tact as I could.
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Like, I didn't leave the room throwing grenades around
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I think I've been very respectful of the prime minister and the government.
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But I felt that I owed it to him, to my colleagues and to my constituent
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to be true to myself and to be able to look myself in the mirror.
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Like, I don't know, Vashi, how I would have been able to say with a straight face
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Now, I support the prime minister's intention of making sure
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that all Canadians feel they have a place in the federation.
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And we lost all our seats in Alberta and Saskatchewan in a 2019 election.
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Like, how is it okay to buy that pipeline but not build another one?
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No, I wasn't in cabinet when that decision was made.
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And when I ran in 2019, I specifically said that I disagreed with the pipeline.
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But I agreed with many of the other things that the prime minister,
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the prime minister of its time, Prime Minister Trudeau,
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was doing specifically on climate change and nature.
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In a country of 40 million people, you know you're not going to win all your battles.
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But at some point, you have to draw land in the sand and say,
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this is a place where I can't go and respectfully say that I have to leave cabinet.
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Do you think that, you know, you can remain in, like, you plan to remain?
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Like, do you plan to run in the next election, for example, under the liberal banner?
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Like, do you, or are you seriously considering your future outside of just cabinet because of this?
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I plan to stay a member of the liberal caucus and to continue to play an active role on these issues that are important to me.
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Certainly, environment, climate change, nature, culture as well.
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I was culture minister twice, 2019 to 21, and until recently, I identified culture and nature.
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I honestly, the dust is still settling, so it's my decision of last week.
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But I'm definitely there for the coming months.
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I just wanted to ask one final question, because as we were speaking, I was thinking, like,
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you know, to be fair to the prime minister, he hasn't made a secret of his economic agenda, right?
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And he's been clear right through the election around the desire to make Canada a conventional,
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an energy superpower, but inclusive in that conventional.
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I can think of the first interview I conducted with him after the swearing-in ceremony,
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in which I asked about some key environmental policies that Alberta had identified as irritants to development.
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He indicated even then that he was open to rolling them back because of his desire to see big projects and big things get done.
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Like, why now is this such a surprise, in a way?
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Like, what did he not disclose that prompted this drastic of a decision?
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Well, I mean, I certainly support the—I think that there's been mixed messages that have been sent over time.
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I certainly support the idea of making sure that, you know, Canada is an energy superpower.
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In my view and the view of many of my colleagues, this is a green superpower, critical minerals, renewable energy, clean technologies.
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And there are many of these things that are part of the plan right now that I still support.
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But this idea that—and I was even willing to entertain a conversation about a pipeline, if done properly.
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One of the things that was difficult with the agreement was the fact that we had made an agreement with Elizabeth May from the Greens
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to support us to support us in the budget by not including a specific subsidy to oil and gas.
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And it's explicitly stated in the budget that we wouldn't do that.
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And then we turned around two weeks later and we put it in this agreement with Alberta.
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That was—I was one of the person who was asked to work with Ms. May.
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Did you help convince her to support the budget?
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And I felt that this was—this was not a genuine gesture on our part.
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I don't think she will support us moving forward.
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And to me, that was something that was difficult to accept.
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But again, like, I guess, I just wonder, like, he has made it explicit from the beginning that he wanted to see oil development.
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You know, obviously his track record prior to is why conservatives doubted those statements.
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Like, why, when it was in black and white, did it surprise you in the end?
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Well, actually, our platform talked about making Canada an energy superpower.
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But we weren't specific about projects and things we wanted to do.
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And I understood why we—the Prime Minister—decided to get rid of the consumer carbon pricing.
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Like, it was very controversial, politically controversial.
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I understood when we decided to pause the regulation for electric vehicles.
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The auto sector is going through a rough time right now.
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But it was the accumulation of, like, abandoning the emissions on—the cap on emissions from the oil and gas sector.
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However, if—even if we do pathways, so if we capture that carbon and we store it for oil sands, we'll be worst off from an emissions perspective, from a pollutions perspective, if we add another million barrels from a new pipeline, even with carbon capture and storage.
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Then the current situation, we're worst off, according to a study by the Pembin Institute in Alberta.
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So, it's the accumulation of these things that led me to this decision.
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So, what Gilbo is hinting at right here is what I've been telling you for a while.
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Carney needs to move forward with natural resource projects in order to fulfill his campaign promise of standing up to Donald Trump and diversifying our trade exports.
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However, Carney can't move forward with natural resource projects without alienating a large part of his base and pushing them to either the NDP or the Greens.
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Carney is in a really difficult situation right now.
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But, I don't feel sorry for him because he dug himself into this hole.
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And the good news for conservatives is that once a new election comes around, he won't be able to use Trump as the boogeyman to scare people away from the conservatives.
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However, Gilbo isn't the only sitting left-wing politician to have his concerns about Mark Carney.
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Even Elizabeth May of the Green Party says that if there's another confidence vote, she will vote no against Carney because she doesn't like what he's doing.
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Even before Carney reached this deal with Alberta, there was already massive protests calling Carney out over his intention to start natural resource projects and to cut Trudeau-era red tape.
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Now, I predict these protests are only going to get bigger.
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This is why I continuously advocate for a strong right.
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Of course, we're going to have our differences, and that's natural.
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Pierre Polyev is uniquely qualified to lead Canada, and he's the only person that I know of that will excite conservatives enough to go out and vote.
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We need this guy around, and we need to be united.
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We want them to split their vote between the liberals, the greens, and the NDP.
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But when it comes to right-wingers, everyone needs to get behind Polyev and vote blue.
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And now you know why I'm so sick of political commentators like Mr. Crybaby that say bad things about Polyev, and that's why I'm glad more people are watching my videos and less people are watching his.
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Like I always say, have a bit of patience, have a bit of faith.
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